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[00:20:57] <FatPhil> yeah, I have a cheap-arse electric one. so tomorrow I will turn my trapezium into dust.
[00:21:20] <FatPhil> not a belt one, just the boring one
[00:24:19] <kyonko2> you have a robot arm?
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[00:26:25] <kyonko2> acorn arm
[00:29:54] <Runaway1956> I didn't realize sanding day was this long after boxing day.
[00:37:20] <kyonko2> i wonder what he does with all that dust
[00:37:26] <kyonko2> is he sanding paint?
[00:37:45] <kyonko2> the vax is a primer
[00:45:33] <Runaway1956> I can't speak for Fatphil, but I vacuum up my dust, then reverse the vacuum, and blow the dust at my neighbor's house.
[00:45:59] <Runaway1956> No fingerprints, so they can't prove a thing.
[00:48:29] <t3> sawdust, cigarettes butts, any other wood byproducts, go into the compost (and take a leak on the pile once in a while to keep the N up during decomposition)
[00:49:50] <Runaway1956> That's the responsible way to do things. The spectacular takes precedence in the US, just ask the media.
[00:52:48] <kyonko2> cigarette buts are cellulose acetate
[00:54:23] <Runaway1956> Life in prison without parole for the McMichaels - Bryan gets life, but the possibility of parole after 30 years.
[00:55:13] <Runaway1956> That might be a little harsh, or maybe not, but either way, they make a fine example for the next bunch of assholes who want to chase a darkie down.
[01:27:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Verizon Will Bring Ultrafast C-Band 5G to 100 Million Americans Within Weeks - https://sylnt.us - will-it-come-with-rainbow-coloured-unicorns-too?
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[02:16:26] <kyonko2> lol @ c-band 5g
[02:16:32] <kyonko2> that used to mean something else in my day
[02:16:50] <kyonko2> c-band, it could penetrate falling rain
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[03:46:59] <SoyCow1551> Yay! News outlets are mentioning Susan Rosenberg
[03:47:39] <SoyCow1551> Its as if the Mossad blackmail operation has been dismantled, and people can be honest again!
[03:48:24] <SoyCow1551> Let's hope so.
[03:49:11] <SoyCow1551> It must be true, if Judeo-Globalist communism is resorting to murdering their opposition. Did they learn from Hillary, or did she learn from them?
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[05:09:11] <aristarchus> Just a short report. I am being mod-bombed by entities unknown! Cannot tell that Spam Mods have been reversed. I suspect that this is with Editorial complicity.
[05:23:31] <aristarchus> Crickets. To be expected.
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[06:06:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Volcano Erupts on Galapagos Island Home to Endangered Iguana - https://sylnt.us - Walk-like-an-Egyptian^W-Iguana
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[06:08:52] <SoyCow1551> https://pcsoweb.com
[06:09:02] <SoyCow1551> Which one of you faggot commies is this?
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[06:37:32] <aristarchus> It has just hit me, why were the children in "The Lord of the Flies" British? I feel I am the odd fellow out, for no reason other than British bigotry.
[06:57:03] <aristarchus> Or, British Royalty.
[07:21:43] <aristarchus> =g Never be Royals
[07:21:44] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - Lorde - Royals (US Version) - YouTube
[07:25:07] <aristarchus> =g jacobites by name
[07:25:08] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Ye Jacobites by Name - Wikipedia
[07:54:04] <FatPhil> =yt tri yann jacobites
[07:54:05] <systemd> https://youtube.com - ye jacobites tri yann.wmv (04:03; 55,186 views; 👍248 👎[hidden by butthurt Google employees])
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[08:00:11] <SoyCow1551> Quick-recognition of a Jew is oftentimes difficult
[08:00:44] <SoyCow1551> The first test of Jewishness is the nose. If the tip droops below the nostrils, you have a Jew on your hands.
[08:01:12] <SoyCow1551> If the tip is a curved one, then you have an extra-Jew on your hands.
[08:01:30] <FatPhil> .kick SoyCow1551
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[08:07:27] <SoyCow2779> Now, some Jews don't have the angular deviation or the downward curvature of the classic Jew nose. If you cannot determine their Jewishness from discussion, then you can use the forehead slope analysis. Unlike the nosanalysis one cannot perform a forehead-slope analysis head-on -- one must get a profile view to do so.
[08:07:48] <SoyCow2779> Roger Stone as a template
[08:07:56] <SoyCow2779> for extreme forehead slopes.
[08:08:04] <SoyCow2779> ALso Henry Kissinger
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[08:24:56] <FatPhil> chromas: jeez - blunderf00t's latest vid (gold batteries) is almost exactly 1% on topic, and about 80% hyperloop. Even mentions solar roofing and theranos more than gold batteries. Has more JLP facepalms than gold batteries.
[08:25:05] <aristarchus> Some anti-semites are jews, like Ethanol-funneled. He also has still not found a job, and likely never will?
[08:26:28] <FatPhil> I used to joke that someone should create a Thunderc3nt1m3tr3 channel that has the same content as Thunderf00t, but at 1/30th of the length. He's approaching the need for Thunderm1ll1m3tr3.
[08:27:22] <FatPhil> the 10s on the gold battery was duplicated repeatedly, it would be easy to reduce the whole 1034s vid to ~3s.
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[08:52:49] <SoyCow1725> You wouldn't believe the most Jewish nose I saw at my last job. It was curved downward more sharply than the sickle of Death (the Grim Reaper) himself, so sharply in fact that his nose reminded me of one of those rodent outgrowths that grows right back into the face, the hooknose that curved right back into the mouth-orifice.
[08:53:25] <SoyCow1725> Good thing Jews run the 'complex, eh?
[08:54:05] <SoyCow1725> HAHHAAHAHAHAHEEEEHEEHOOOOOOO!
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[08:56:48] <aristarchus> Well, just reporting. Mod bombing in progress. Rectification required. Public safety on SoylentNews.
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[09:19:15] <kyonko2> alex jones is doing free publicity for "gettr"
[09:19:28] <kyonko2> its some kind of religious social network
[10:18:31] <janrinok> ar
[10:19:50] <janrinok> ~tell aristarchus - so give us the CIDs or we can do nothing. You are just being stupid. And mod bombing is NOT mod bombing if 1000 people think you are being an idiot.
[10:23:56] <FatPhil> I noticed that basically every comment he made to the SPAM story was modded down. Presumably because he was whining like a petulant little kid. Not checked to see if if everyone who downmods him, or just a core group of 1000.
[10:24:12] <FatPhil> s/if if/if it's/
[10:24:12] <SedBot> <FatPhil> I noticed that basically every comment he made to the SPAM story was modded down. Presumably because he was whining like a petulant little kid. Not checked to see if it's everyone who downmods him, or just a core group of 1000.
[10:26:22] <janrinok> Nobody has downmodded him more than a couple of times each day. He may be being downmodded everyday but he cannot be surprised at that. People are just fed up with his whinging and disruption to many stories.
[10:29:00] <FatPhil> A small pattern is emerging, there are clearly a small finite number of people who clearly do just wish he'd shut the fuck up with his incessant whining.
[10:29:16] <janrinok> yep
[10:29:52] <FatPhil> but none of the mods look like they don't belong on the post they're attached to. People are just expressing their opinions via the medium of mods.
[10:30:40] <FatPhil> They've been doing a fine job too - I've only had to downmod one post of his in that thread, the rest were already suitably evaluated.
[10:31:05] <janrinok> spreading the workload always improves things
[10:31:08] <FatPhil> I remember when he used to post interesting content. Some time around 2007, I think it was.
[10:31:39] <janrinok> lol - pity we didn't start until 2014, we obviously missed his best work
[10:34:19] <FatPhil> now I need to find the "What happened, ari, you used to be cool, but now you're just a troll" and "Well, you're half right" posts...
[10:35:08] <janrinok> I must have missed that!
[10:58:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kosovo Bans Cryptocurrency Mining After Blackouts - https://sylnt.us - charge-the-miners-more?
[12:32:44] <FatPhil> Someone we both know posted the response. Perhaps he can hunt it out ;-)
[13:35:26] * Runaway1956 gives his core army of sock puppets a day off
[13:42:09] <janrinok> good afternoon Runaway1956
[13:42:20] <janrinok> or 'morning' to you
[13:55:24] <Runaway1956> Good morning!
[13:56:32] * Runaway1956 looks out the window, and notices that he can see the bare trees, so it must be morning
[13:58:23] <Runaway1956> this post is of interest janrinok - https://soylentnews.org
[13:58:24] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | The Times May Be A-Changin’ ( https://soylentnews.org )
[13:59:13] <Runaway1956> wherin, once again, one member implies that he is going to make a Red Flag call on another member, similar to, but not the same as SWATTING
[14:06:33] <janrinok> Noted
[14:08:33] <janrinok> i don't read quite the same way as you but perhaps I am just not current with the terms . Don't bother trying to explain it on here. I will find an interpretation for it elsewhere.
[14:08:53] <FatPhil> I read it as
[14:08:59] <FatPhil> blah blah blah blah blah
[14:09:04] <FatPhil> | blah blah blah blah blah
[14:09:06] <FatPhil> blah blah blah blah blah
[14:11:01] <Runaway1956> lol
[14:33:09] <Runaway1956> My linux on a MacBook Pro project is so frustrating
[14:33:25] <Runaway1956> I've tried a couple other distros, meeting with abject failure
[14:33:53] <Runaway1956> loaded up Fedora again - it runs, but reboots randomly
[14:34:09] <Runaway1956> haven't actually gone into the logs to see what makes it barf
[14:34:40] <Runaway1956> That Apple T2 chip needs to be reverse engineered or something
[14:35:27] <Runaway1956> black magic, I think - Apple is filled with black magic practitioners
[14:37:24] <Runaway1956> it has at least partial control of sound, the touch bar, touch ID, somehow affects the Thunderbolt controller(s), and maybe most importantly, it controls the iBridge
[14:38:35] <janrinok> are all versions of linux behaving similarly, or are failures apparently random?
[14:39:05] <janrinok> Run memtest on it overnight.
[14:39:26] <Runaway1956> all behave pretty much the same - there are four people working on making distros of their choice work with the T2
[14:39:34] <Runaway1956> with varying success
[14:40:04] <Runaway1956> I guess I can claim to be "mostly successful" in that I've made it work at all
[14:40:08] <janrinok> yes, but are you _sure_ that yours is perfect in every way? Give it a damn good soak test, is my opinion.
[14:40:29] <Runaway1956> My distro, or my computer?
[14:40:45] <Runaway1956> It would be funny if I ultimately learn that my T2 chip is faulty
[14:41:00] <janrinok> the computer - run memtest and thrash it for at least a few hours
[14:41:16] <Runaway1956> Not a bad idea, I think I'll do that
[14:41:27] <janrinok> If you have any other test software run that too.
[14:42:06] <Runaway1956> will do - I bought this thing used at a discounted price - maybe the seller knew something that I don't
[14:42:40] <janrinok> in which case, check he hasn't changed any of the internal settings so that it is running within spec
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[15:30:21] <FatPhil> inz: see the commented out lines in the C code in my dev area, and the latest html page regarding mod 3. It makes it *slower* using the naive commented out lines.
[15:46:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Drone Helps Save Cardiac Arrest Patient in Sweden - https://sylnt.us - can't-"beat"-it!
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[17:52:50] <Bytram> janrinok++ "in which case, check he hasn't changed any of the internal settings so that it is running within spec"
[17:52:51] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 89
[18:18:50] <chromas> in EF's defence, there's a reason the nose job is a Hollywood stereotype
[18:19:00] <chromas> Runaway1956: how much time between reboots?
[19:00:13] <Runaway1956> chromas - it seems to be random, 5 minutes to maybe 30 minutes
[19:00:39] <Runaway1956> I haven't had it booted long enough at one time to establish a pattern
[19:01:09] <Runaway1956> I think this afternoon I might boot it to Fedora, and leave it on
[19:01:22] <chromas> I was thinking maybe watchdog not responding but I'd expect that to have consistent timing. does your distro have systemd?
[19:01:27] <Runaway1956> need to finish a Folding at Home work unit before I make the switch
[19:01:41] <Runaway1956> Yeah, Fedora is systemd
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[19:02:45] <chromas> might be able to Czech out the systemd journal with
[19:02:45] <chromas> journalctl -b-1
[19:02:45] <chromas> to get the log for the last boot, then scroll to the end to see what it says about shutdown, if anything
[19:03:14] <Runaway1956> I had looked up that exact command last evening, lol
[19:03:25] <Runaway1956> I need to look at logs, and figure out what is going on
[19:03:52] * Runaway1956 waits for everyone to laugh at him for searching commands
[19:04:24] <chromas> No, they're laughing at you for using systemd :D
[19:04:44] <Runaway1956> lol, if no other distro wants to run on Apple hardware, I'm kinda stuck
[19:05:16] <chromas> Not even DebIan?
[19:05:24] * Runaway1956 looks around for an old System V to try
[19:05:25] <chromas> Makes sense though, Ian was killed for the systemd gods
[19:06:02] <Runaway1956> There is a Ubuntu available - it puked worse than Fedora
[19:06:48] <Runaway1956> meanwhile, the developers who are doing the Apple makeovers all claim that their versions work fine - for them
[19:07:59] <Runaway1956> Manjaro does weird crap too - I was hoping that an Arch-like would be more stable than the others
[19:08:19] <chromas> gotta go for the real authentic arch
[19:08:42] <Runaway1956> did manage to get XFCE installed, so I don't have to deal with that Gnome99 abortion
[19:09:00] <Runaway1956> Gnome 2 was the last good gnome
[19:09:11] <chromas> s/2/1/ ;)
[19:09:41] <chromas> 2 was okay I guess but they were already deleting feature by then
[19:09:51] <Runaway1956> I didn't really experience much Gnome 1 - they were making the switch when I finall got Linux running
[19:10:16] <Runaway1956> Actually, I think my first DE was K
[19:10:39] <Runaway1956> took a year or more for me to switch to something with Gnome
[19:10:48] <chromas> You can see Gnome 1 in the movie Antitrust
[19:12:51] * Runaway1956 wonders how his computing experience might be different if he had internet access before about 1999
[19:13:30] <Runaway1956> might have got Linux running the first time he tried, learned to be a Linux admin, and run the IT department of the local paper mill or something
[19:14:02] <Runaway1956> s /1999/1994
[19:27:54] <inz> FatPhil, I'd guess it might save some, if c was calculated using sqrt, but now the potential gains are lost in the "square root update loop"
[19:28:25] <inz> and then the extra branching and division bite
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[20:18:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - PC DOS 1.1 Boot Sector Junk Identified - https://sylnt.us - PC-introns
[20:22:42] <FatPhil> inz: if you can think of some cheeky shortcut for the same 7/9 optimisation
[20:23:47] <FatPhil> go for it
[20:26:57] <chromas> Just train a neural network on your current outputs and use that to generate more numbers
[20:30:36] <FatPhil> nahhhh, just train an actual mathematician
[20:31:26] <FatPhil> we're probably wasting exponential amounts of energy
[20:31:44] <chromas> no it's an investment
[20:31:47] <FatPhil> ortunately, it's inz's energy
[20:31:48] <chromas> SquareCoin
[20:32:04] <FatPhil> which is porbably hosted ojn the cayman islands
[20:32:34] <FatPhil> ah, yes, nearly square coin - invest in me
[20:34:46] <FatPhil> BATTLEBOTS!
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[20:36:44] <t3> =submit https://www.npr.org
[20:36:45] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Turkmenistan's Leader Wants 'Gates of Hell' Fire Put Out" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[20:41:18] <fab23> Runaway1956: did you once reset NVRAM / PRAM? -> https://support.apple.com .o( I am not using Linux on Mackoob, but this is also something which may help to resolve strange behavior on macOS )
[20:41:19] <systemd> ^ 03Reset NVRAM or PRAM on your Mac
[20:42:40] <fab23> .oO( funny typo, no idea from where this is )
[21:42:20] <Runaway1956> fab23 - I have reset NVRAM, but not since I started fooling around with multi-booting the machine
[21:42:49] <Runaway1956> I just now reset it again, to be half sure that nothing was changed by any of the OSs
[21:43:19] <Runaway1956> good idea, I think
[21:46:13] <Runaway1956> Interesting - rEFInd boot manager no longer works, but I can still boot to the Linux hard disk by holding the option key . . .
[21:46:30] <Runaway1956> it's possible that rEFInd was messing things up - I'll find out soon enough
[22:08:13] <fab23> at least it changd something :)
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[22:42:22] <t3> Runaway: configuring initramfs for exotic hardware is hard to get right, that's why you are having issues most likely, try building a UEFI stub kernel
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[22:59:08] <t3> forgot to mention, ESP should be at least 256M on macs, at least a few years ago
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