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[00:07:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chrome Users Beware: Manifest V3 is Deceitful and Threatening - https://sylnt.us
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[00:48:51] <SoyCow4049> Man, this song is awesome.
[00:48:52] <SoyCow4049> https://www.youtube.com
[00:48:55] <systemd> ^ 03Ace of Base - The Sign (Official Music Video)
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[01:30:32] <Bytram> Pretty good song, but rather repetitive... I give it a 5 or maybe a 6 (out of 10).
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[02:57:14] <Bytram> Not planning to run as a story, but interesting: https://scitechdaily.com
[02:57:14] <systemd> ^ 03Towards Megatesla Magnetic Fields by Microtube Implosions
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[04:08:01] <progo> Bytram: how many steps is that away from a doomsday device?
[04:09:00] <progo> I guess the worst it could do is create a very VERY small signularity of some kind that will quickly disperse in a puff of logic
[04:55:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple's "Do Not Track" Button is Privacy Theater - https://sylnt.us - privacy-theater-incorporated
[04:56:23] <progo> and this surprises no-one
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[06:37:02] <MintyChickadee> I hear that Runaway is dead, again. Can anyone confirm?
[06:46:11] <AzumaHazuki> i doubt it
[06:46:49] <AzumaHazuki> soon enough, though. he's old, stupid, constantly voting against his own interest, and living in covid central. he'll be fuel for the flames of Hell soon enough
[06:47:38] <MintyChickadee> Wonder if his spouse and spawn hogtied him for a booster yet! That would be a story.
[06:54:13] <Runaway1956> Hello ari. How goes the sock war?
[07:29:19] <AzumaHazuki> don't know, don't care. i've given up on most of humanity. let them perish
[07:46:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Melatonin Exacerbates Asthma Discovers Research Group - https://sylnt.us - holiday-travelers-should-keep-this-in-mind
[07:50:15] <MintyChickadee> Hello, FYN! How is the racism going?
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[08:15:33] <Runaway1956> https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com
[08:15:34] <systemd> ^ 03Los Angeles Man Shoots and Kills One of Three Armed Robbers After Grabbing His Gun - The Truth About Guns ( https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com )
[08:15:45] <Runaway1956> I always get choked up over stories with happy endings
[08:33:22] <chromas> =yt robot chicken happy ending
[08:33:23] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Happy Ending | Robot Chicken | Adult Swim (01:23; 1,056,690 views; 👍19,850 👎359)
[08:36:16] <MintyChickadee> https://www.chron.com
[08:36:17] <systemd> ^ 0311-year-old girl dies after father shoots her in Texas hunting accident
[08:38:12] <chromas> chron.com sounds like a reliable source
[08:38:41] <MintyChickadee> https://www.wsls.com
[08:38:42] <systemd> ^ 03Grandfather of 3-year-old boy shot in Alleghany County believed his gun was hidden under clothes, warrant shows
[08:41:28] <MintyChickadee> https://weartv.com
[08:41:29] <systemd> ^ 03Sheriff: Video supports Navarre gas station shooting as 'stand your ground' case
[08:42:32] <boru> I really don't understand gun culture over there. Is everyone so sensitive that they need to solve every little conflict by shooting someone?
[08:42:45] <boru> We're as tooled up over here, but these sorts of incidents are far less frequent.
[08:42:55] <MintyChickadee> Hope your defective trigger Remington 700 .270 Win is securely stored, Runaway. Wouldn't take it hunting till you get it fixed.
[08:43:01] <boru> It definitely seems to be a cultural problem.
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[08:44:55] <MintyChickadee> Sort of runaway ammosexualism, if you will.
[08:45:26] <boru> Well, I am generalising, of course. The country has a very large population.
[08:45:37] <boru> I'm sure that factors into the frequency.
[08:46:23] <boru> But with all of the altercations where people start shooting over a traffic jam, or someone calling someone else a name, is absurd.
[08:46:34] <boru> What happened to a good old fist fight.
[08:47:15] <MintyChickadee> The American saying is that it is not God that made all men equal, it was Sam Colt.
[08:47:19] <boru> But the way I read some of these stories, I suppose having a gun makes the weak feel strong.
[08:47:31] <chromas> Any studies showing a correlation with antidepressants?
[08:47:39] <boru> Good point.
[08:47:41] <MintyChickadee> Concealed carry cowards, we call them.
[08:48:05] <chromas> We've always had tons of guns but when did we start having the mass shootings?
[08:48:59] <boru> Don't misconstrue, I support civilian ownership of firearms. But also the associated responsibility.
[08:49:11] <boru> I agree, chromas. I'm sure drug culture in general has a lot to do with it.
[08:49:32] <MintyChickadee> First, it was going Postal.
[08:49:50] <MintyChickadee> Well, outside of the genocidal massacres.
[08:51:02] <boru> But they were considered aberrations.
[08:51:12] <boru> Perhaps we just hear about the problem more, now.
[08:52:44] <boru> In the USA, are antidepressants and general ongoing medication widespread?
[08:53:03] <boru> The suggestion that there's a correlation is interesting.
[09:15:24] <chromas> Fuck yeah my niece's doc put her on something to make her less shy and then when know seemed to work the doc upped the dose and soon and was tearing up insects and threatening suicide. Ended up in some big hospital in Portland for mental issues or whatever. My sister claims I was Prozac but my mom (who's a nurse) said it was some other drug
[09:16:19] <chromas> Stupid phone keyboard
[09:16:37] * chromas totally proofread that
[09:20:00] <boru> What in blazes...
[09:20:05] <boru> Drugs to be less shy?!
[09:36:18] <MintyChickadee> Pharmalogical cosmetology.
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[10:26:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mexico Joins U.S.-Led Artemis Accords for Lunar Exploration - https://sylnt.us
[10:45:34] <FatPhil> A drug to be less shy? That's called "cocktails", isn't it?
[10:46:26] <janrinok> lol
[10:46:52] <janrinok> and if they are both shy and ugly, then beer goggles might also be required
[10:48:48] <FatPhil> I have a Wychwood (Brewery) T-shirt with a direct reference to beer goggles, which is particularly amusing as the "sexy young thing" is a white-haired witch, and my g/f has white hair. (she bought the t-shirt for me)
[10:54:30] <janrinok> you had me worried until the last bit....! I have also had a few of Wychwood's offerings.
[10:55:25] <FatPhil> can't find it in google, alas.
[10:57:15] <janrinok> https://www.wychwood.co.uk
[10:57:17] <systemd> ^ 03Wychwood Brewery
[10:58:01] <janrinok> I've got cans of Hobgoblin down in my cellar from my last trip back to UK in October.
[10:59:20] <janrinok> both Hobgoblin and KingGoblin, I haven't tried all of the others yet but there is time ...
[11:01:11] <FatPhil> I've never had KingGoblin!
[11:01:27] <boru> I never did get a taste for those commercial ales there.
[11:01:41] <boru> I found most of them really unpleasant to drink.
[11:01:58] <boru> What's the name of the company that owns most of them? Green something.
[11:02:15] <boru> Green man? Green tree? Green dragon? Something like that.
[11:02:18] <FatPhil> Marstons owns Wychwood and Banks, and ...
[11:02:39] <janrinok> Wychwood is also linked to Brakspear
[11:02:53] <FatPhil> Green King did a bunch of buyups in the East Anglia region
[11:02:59] <boru> Green king, that's the one.
[11:03:06] <FatPhil> Yup, Brakspear's another one of the Marston's family.
[11:03:26] <janrinok> Wychwood is in Oxfordshire
[11:03:40] <boru> There are a few nice commercial ales, but they're few and far between imho.
[11:04:04] <janrinok> agreed - but when in France.... Well, I make do.
[11:04:12] <boru> Broadside is nice on draught.
[11:04:57] <janrinok> I think that most beers are better on draught, even some of the locally produced Breton beers aren't too bad
[11:05:00] <FatPhil> Adnams, Suffolk, has had its ups and its downs. Draught's always best.
[11:05:16] <FatPhil> I've had a few Ch'ti beers, they were OK
[11:05:34] <FatPhil> But in that region, you should be drinking cider
[11:05:35] <janrinok> I just miss not having what I would call a bar anywhere near where I live.
[11:05:58] <boru> I got fond of Milton Brewery and Chesteron Brewery when I live in Cambridge.
[11:05:59] <janrinok> there are cafes of course, but no atmosphere and they tend to be partly a shop too
[11:06:05] <boru> But yeah, Adnams is hit and miss.
[11:06:15] <boru> They had another popular one I didn't like.
[11:06:18] <boru> Moonlight or something?
[11:06:18] <FatPhil> Milton's great!
[11:06:49] <janrinok> haven't even heard of the last couple - never lived in those areas
[11:06:50] <boru> Chesteron bitter is pretty good, also.
[11:07:51] <boru> The guy that owns Milton is an obnoxious tool, but the ales are alright.
[11:08:18] <janrinok> don't mind as long as I don't have to socialise with him
[11:08:28] <boru> Aye, better you don't.
[11:09:05] <janrinok> mind you, after a good evening drinking I can get on with almost anybody.
[11:09:10] <boru> I used to get out to cider country a bit, as well. Some good ciders in England.
[11:09:39] <boru> Ah, I get tired of listening to people rubber mouthing because they can't hold their booze.
[11:09:51] <boru> Pissing in your ear after a few beers. Can't listen to it.
[11:11:16] <janrinok> Unfortunately, it is now my lunchtime - and also fancy a beer but can't have one yet, got an appt with docs this afternoon
[11:13:00] <boru> Aye, I had best go and organise some lunch, myself.
[11:21:44] <FatPhil> local pub does a great christmas dinner, and as we're away for much of december decided to grab one today.
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[13:07:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Develop Advanced Catalysts for Clean Hydrogen Production - https://sylnt.us
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[14:50:50] <Bytram> chromas: s/less shy/less sensitive/ (It's like everybody *else* goes around with ear plugs and dark sunglasses... they have *no* idea of how overwhelming the world can be! Hope she's okay!!!)
[15:46:51] <FatPhil> =submit https://www.independent.co.uk
[15:46:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Elon Musk Named Time Person of the Year" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:49:12] <FatPhil> Finally the award has gone to someone who live-tweets while pooping.
[15:58:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Unveils Plan to 'Propel Moore’s Law Beyond 2025' - https://sylnt.us
[16:09:43] <FatPhil> =yt EojxThnDPng
[16:09:44] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Is Spacex facing bankruptcy?! (25:58; 150,662 views; 👍14,137 👎545)
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[17:48:03] <progo> "Is Spacex facing bankruptcy?!" yes.
[17:48:35] <progo> I saw that last night. I love a goot thunderf00t shitpost, and I watched the whole thing, but he does need to learn to be more brief.
[17:48:41] <progo> *good
[17:50:38] <progo> I do like how he built up to a sudden quiet punchline about Musky cashing out a ton of Tesla stock and tweeting this past week "I think I'll just start over and become an Internet influencer"
[17:51:08] <progo> Trump said that his net worth depends on how he's feeling today. Musk embodies that concept.
[17:51:27] <progo> (Trump said about Trump's net worth)
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[18:46:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Malicious NPM Packages are Part of a Malware “Barrage” Hitting Repositories - https://sylnt.us - just-trust-everyone
[18:47:47] <AzumaHazuki> NPM is itself malicious
[18:49:16] <FatPhil> where's your sense of trust?
[18:49:23] <FatPhil> or do you have a sense of trussed?
[18:58:27] <AzumaHazuki> i gave up on humanity a long time ago
[18:58:39] <AzumaHazuki> we're about to find out the answer to the fermi paradox firsthand
[19:04:54] <Bytram> progo: Musk had a chance to buy in-the-money options (worth *much* more than they would cost him to buy) that were about to expire. Needed cash in order to purchase them. Sold stock to get the cash. We are talking big numbers, but that has to do with the size of the opportunity and what it cost him in order to do it. AFAICT, it had nothing to do with his faith in the company (or lack thereof).
[19:08:01] <Bytram> If I could buy $1,000 worth if stock for $500 (not surrre of exact numbers, but in that ballpark)... I'd do it, too. It's a no brainer!
[19:26:25] <FatPhil> it's more like a 20x or 50x factor
[19:31:03] <FatPhil> or 150x, even? It was pure kerching.
[19:31:47] <progo> Bytram++
[19:31:47] <Bender> karma - bytram: 179
[19:34:13] <Bytram> FatPhil++ ty!
[19:34:13] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 162
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[20:09:14] <FatPhil> whadididoo?
[20:16:56] <Bytram> FatPhil: confirmation and elaboration =)
[20:26:26] <FatPhil> given my history of comments about musk, more like belaboration
[21:28:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk Named Time Person of the Year - https://sylnt.us - starman
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[22:23:19] <Runaway1956> lol Splish Splash FatPhil
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[22:37:06] <FatPhil> I think that's a verbatim quote, IIRC
[22:37:33] <FatPhil> sometimes his humour doesn't land, that tweet had a water landing
[22:41:32] <FatPhil> We don't have any native slavic speakers on chan do we? I need some help with Polish and/or a drawing. I'm trying to work out what the berries are here: https://www.ratebeer.com
[22:42:07] <FatPhil> direct image link here: https://res.cloudinary.com
[22:51:12] <Runaway1956> owocowy berries I think?
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[23:21:39] <FatPhil> I think I'm fairly happy that owocowy is just a broad "fruit" word. The image looks a bit like aronia or black chokeberry. A rando translation site came up with "hackberry", but nobody gives that much credibility.
[23:22:54] <FatPhil> I will get to taste it on Friday, but the berries have been ageing with the mead for years, so might have changed character significantly.