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[00:02:30] <progo> neither is docker
[00:52:21] <Subsentient> Is it okay to admit I hate containers yet?
[00:52:28] <Subsentient> Because I hate containers.
[00:58:36] <progo> yes
[01:00:44] <Bytram> progo: "Flatpak [flatpak.org], Snap [snapcraft.io], AppImage [appimage.org], Docker [docker.com], and Steam [steampowered.com]: these all provide an app packaging mechanism that replaces most or all of the system's runtime libraries, and they now all use containerization to accomplish this."
[01:01:01] <progo> yeah I opened the story after I reacted here
[01:01:31] <Bytram> =)
[01:16:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! Observance and Observations - https://sylnt.us - Gobble!-Gobble!-Gobble!
[01:35:31] <chromas> Steam isn't the future. it's the present because there's no competition
[01:47:49] <progo> the future is IOS: you can't publish a program unless sillycon valley approves
[02:03:59] <chromas> eyeOS. Icy what you did there
[02:28:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chemotherapy May Affect Muscle Cells at Lower Doses Than Previously Thought - https://sylnt.us
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[02:39:11] <c0lo> sunmit check-this-out-it-worth https://blogs.nvidia.com
[02:39:11] <systemd> ^ 03NVIDIA Research's GauGAN AI Art Demo Responds to Words
[02:39:28] <c0lo> =submit check-this-out-it-worth https://blogs.nvidia.com
[02:39:30] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NVIDIA Research's GauGAN AI Art Demo Responds to Words" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[05:34:42] <AzumaHazuki> if we were allowed to substitute stool softeners for every medicine a customer didn't know they were on and went "figure it out, i shouldn't need to know this," we would see better compliance
[05:35:06] <AzumaHazuki> bitch, some of this shit will kill you if you do not take it or take it wrong.
[07:17:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rust Language Moderation Team Resigns - https://sylnt.us - CoCs
[07:45:32] <Subsentient> Ahh yes, been following the Rust moderation team resignation for a while now. SN has been slow to look at this. Just goes to show you how going too far on either side of the political scale brings evil.
[08:55:30] <Subsentient> Just found out my best friend of several years killed themselves. Fuck.
[08:56:17] <Subsentient> And here I am sticking around for everyone who needs me. I guess she felt she wasn't needed anymore. I'll miss her, a lot.
[08:57:31] <janrinok> Happy Thanksgiving to all my American cousins
[09:34:49] <SoyGuest95935> fuck that shit. I'm being forced to eat turkey today when I could be having a nice jalfrezi instead.
[09:50:24] <janrinok> can't you compromise on a turkey jalfrezi?
[09:55:39] <SoyGuest95935> I love said dish, alas we don't decide what the daily lunch specials are, and the jalfrezi place doesn't seem to track the US calendar at all, so didn't think of the combo
[09:56:38] <SoyGuest95935> there's a great south-east asian place nearby too that does lovely satay - are they doing turkey satay today? are they fuck.
[09:57:51] <SoyGuest95935> it's very easy to keep stupid american(ophiles) happy with herp-derp-turkey. Why can't they just use a bit of smarts about it and appeal to the wider audience?
[09:59:18] <chromas> Are you only eating once today?
[10:00:02] <chromas> Also, can't blame stupid americans for your local businesses being run by retards
[10:01:35] * chromas pukes up some turkey, feeds it to Subsentient, who the pukes it again, then we strategically hide chonks in various orifices of SoyGuest95935's house
[11:03:45] <SoyGuest95935> only going out for a meal once today
[11:05:19] <SoyGuest95935> the root cause of the problem is the americophile who demands going out for traditional turkey today. She's in a minority, so the restaurants aren't whoring interesting turkey dishes her way to tempt her.
[11:08:57] <SoyGuest95935> chromas++ for the extra chair!
[11:08:57] <Bender> karma - chromas: 412
[11:10:35] <chromas> Blaming minorities isn't a good look
[11:14:26] <chromas> Plus, gimme back my extra chair! As an American, I'm gonna need as many chairs as I can spares to hold all my pies upon my thighs
[12:08:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ultrashort-Pulse Lasers Kill Bacterial Superbugs, Spores - https://sylnt.us - Pew!-Pew!-Pew!
[13:40:58] <Bytram> Subsentient: I'm saddened to hear of your loss. {{{ Subsentient }}}
[13:46:13] <Bytram> please accept my condolences.
[13:46:22] <janrinok> Bytram, hi!!!
[16:15:06] <Runaway1956> Subsentient - ouch.
[16:17:30] <Runaway1956> #weather Texarkana, Tx
[16:17:32] <MrPlow> Texarkana College, 2500 North Robison Rd, Texarkana, TX 75599, USA - Today: "Rain in the morning." 61/27F, Humidity: 79%, Precip: 92%, Wind ~9mph. Fri: "Clear throughout the day." 55/31F, Humidity: 56%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~4mph. Sat: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 61/41F, Humidity: 61%, Precip: 28%, Wind ~5mph.
[16:18:36] <Runaway1956> 27 degrees is going to feel really really cold after this most recent Indian Summer heat wave
[16:28:36] <SoyGuest95935> archlinux++
[16:28:36] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 69
[16:28:41] <SoyGuest95935> qemu--
[16:28:41] <Bender> karma - qemu: -1
[16:29:11] <SoyGuest95935> qemu devs are fucking psychopaths
[16:36:37] <boru> Does anyone know of an electronic logbook program? Ideally, I'd like something like Keepnote, that's still maintained.
[16:36:52] <boru> Something not web based is also preferable.
[16:39:59] <boru> Basket seems close, but like all KDE bullshit, it depends on the entire DE.
[16:41:47] <SoyGuest95935> emacs!
[16:42:33] <boru> No.
[16:46:17] <SoyGuest95935> none of these alive? https://github.com
[16:46:18] <systemd> ^ 03Forks · mdrasmus/keepnote
[16:46:47] <boru> Hmm, good idea. I'll take a look at those.
[16:46:52] <SoyGuest95935> this is a bit of a sad ticket: https://github.com
[16:46:53] <systemd> ^ 03Revive Project · Issue #752 · mdrasmus/keepnote
[16:46:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Secret History of ATAPI - https://sylnt.us
[16:48:08] <boru> The author doesn't seem to have been active on gh in a long time.
[16:48:11] <boru> I guess it's dead.
[16:50:36] <boru> At this rate, I may just write one myself.
[16:58:54] <SoyGuest95935> what language/toolkit would you use?
[16:59:32] <SoyGuest95935> I'm so reta^Wbackwar^Wold-fashioned, that I do stuff like that in perl/tk!
[17:00:08] <boru> Yeah, probably something like that.
[17:00:25] <boru> I'd probably go with something like gtk2, sqlite and either perl or C.
[17:00:55] <boru> I'd like to approximate something a bit like my written logbooks, which I currently use, and have done so for decades.
[17:01:17] <boru> i.e. timestamped entries with quick and dirty diagrams and the like
[17:01:36] <SoyGuest95935> sqlite's a good idea, I was wondering if the files could just be tar.gzs
[17:01:38] <boru> But adding search ability, categorisations and linking.
[17:02:09] <SoyGuest95935> But anything that's readable using "standard tools" is good, and sqlite satisfies that.
[17:02:14] <boru> Perhaps I'll hack around with the idea over Yule.
[17:02:22] <boru> Aye, right.
[17:03:14] <SoyGuest95935> I was just thinking that a tar gives you the hierarchy without you having to reconstruct it, but that's an itsy-bitsy thing.
[17:03:31] <SoyGuest95935> you'd still need to reconstruct it from filenames internally.
[17:04:02] <SoyGuest95935> sqlite's a much better idea
[17:04:03] <boru> Not that big a deal, and fairly easy to scale.
[17:04:33] <boru> I think so, too, for want of using metadata.
[17:04:40] <boru> i.e. categories and whatnot.
[17:05:00] <boru> And to keep deps under control, also.
[17:05:13] <boru> I'd like to it be light.
[17:05:42] <boru> GUI stuff isn't really my forte, though.
[17:05:43] <SoyGuest95935> light, but not limited, obvious easy feature enhancement paths
[17:05:48] <boru> Sure.
[18:21:07] <SoyGuest95935> now drinking: https://untappd.akamaized.net
[18:40:04] <boru> Having a cup of this, myself: https://m.media-amazon.com
[18:41:55] <boru> And a bowl of some homemade Butternußkürbis soup.
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[18:54:34] <chromas> https://alternativeto.net
[18:54:35] <systemd> ^ 03Open Source BasKet Alternatives: 25+ Similar Note-taking Apps for Linux
[18:55:08] <progo> how's Basket doing? I looked at it years ago and it seemed a little janky
[18:55:11] <boru> None of them are adequate.
[18:55:19] <progo> does it use a binary database or loose text files?
[18:55:32] <chromas> or https://alternativeto.net but it's probably mostly the same list
[18:55:33] <systemd> ^ 03Open Source KeepNote Alternatives: 25+ Similar Note-taking Apps
[18:56:04] <progo> Zim and Joplin are good. Joplin is FAT, and Zim has some idiosynchracies
[18:56:07] <chromas> if you want to keep your stuff disorganized you could try TreeSheets
[18:56:16] <progo> I've been using Zim almost exclusively for like 15 years at least
[19:08:00] <SoyGuest95935> boru: woh - so that's a pot still whiskey in a sherry cask? sounds lovely.
[19:08:56] <boru> Aye, sherry finish. Single pot's a quintessentially Irish thing. I'm fond of sherry and port finishes.
[19:09:21] <boru> This is a nice one, though my regular is the Readbreast 12 year, preferably cask strength.
[19:09:33] <boru> That, or Yellow Spot.
[19:10:01] <boru> The Readbreast 21 is nice, but a bit spendy to be buying often.
[19:10:25] <SoyGuest95935> have the Irish distillers discovered marsala barrels yet?
[19:11:39] <boru> Hmm, not that I'm aware of.
[19:11:48] <boru> Might've been a one off batch here or there.
[19:12:12] <boru> The only distillery that does off-beat stuff is Method & Madness.
[19:12:37] <boru> They did a single pot that was finished in French chestnut. Very weird, but actually quite nice.
[19:13:33] <boru> Green Spot might've been a marsala finish one year. They do something different with the green spot each year.
[19:28:01] <SoyGuest95935> if you like the other fortified wine finishes, I`m sure you'll like it too.
[19:32:29] <boru> I'll keep an eye out for one. I'd be interested to try it.
[21:02:44] <Runaway1956> I think Sweden is on to something.
[21:03:04] <Runaway1956> We should adopt the 7 hour presidency here in the US.
[21:10:12] <chromas> We don't need no steenkin' president
[21:10:38] <chromas> Just make every issue votable by the public by tweet
[21:13:12] <chromas> "Straya sent roos to invade Florida. Vote on the military budget required to box the roos. One retweet = $100,000,000"
[21:14:15] <chromas> hm
[21:14:25] <chromas> =g congresswoman katherine clark
[21:14:26] <systemd> https://katherineclark.house.gov - Congresswoman Katherine Clark
[21:15:47] <chromas> admin@sn getting political spam now too. We're growing up so fast
[21:26:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Retrotechtacular: Office Equipment From the 1940s - https://sylnt.us - how-many-of-these-do-you-recognize?
[21:50:15] * Subsentient resumes screaming
[22:18:00] <Runaway1956> YOU RACISSSS!!! I AIN'T GOT NO TWEETER!!
[22:44:33] <SoyGuest95935> use your woofer instead
[23:33:32] <chromas> That just lets the dogs out though.