#soylent | Logs for 2021-11-22
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[01:25:25] <Runaway1956> Silly quote of the day: What will you do if all your problems aren't solved by the time you die?
[01:25:42] <Runaway1956> If my problems aren't solved when I die, they're not my problems.
[01:45:59] <Bytram> Problem solved! (At least from *your* perspective, right?)
[02:01:11] <Runaway1956> Exactly!
[02:11:19] <Bytram> Unless, of course, you have (say) a dependent with special long term needs for which you would like to make financial arrangements, and it would take X years to accrue those funds... and you die before then?
[02:33:04] <Runaway1956> Waukesha - no indication which flavor of crazy was responsible
[02:33:39] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[02:33:40] <systemd> ^ 03Red Vehicle Seen Speeding in Waukesha Christmas Parade Amid Reports of Injuries
[02:36:01] <Bytram> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[02:36:01] <systemd> ^ 03More than 20 injured when driver of SUV plows into crowd at Christmas parade in Wisconsin
[02:36:04] <Bytram> https://edition.cnn.com
[02:36:05] <systemd> ^ 03Live updates: Waukesha, Wisconsin, Christmas parade car plow incident
[02:36:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Police Can’t Demand You Reveal Your Phone Passcode and Then Tell a Jury You Refused - https://sylnt.us - wink
[02:37:01] <Bytram> =yt blue christmas
[02:37:01] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Elvis Presley - Blue Christmas (Official Audio) (02:11; 1,522,555 views; 👍14,407 👎422)
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[02:44:26] <Runaway1956> Waukesha and Kenosha an hour apart by car
[02:44:32] <Runaway1956> Could be related?
[02:53:02] <Bytram> audioguy++
[02:53:02] <Bender> karma - audioguy: 24
[02:53:06] <Bytram> audioguy++
[02:53:06] <Bender> karma - audioguy: 25
[02:54:33] <chromas> Runaway1956: well that's what they get for doing christmas stuff so early
[02:54:52] <Runaway1956> Mmmmm - yeah.
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[05:04:20] <c0lo> =submit the-capitol-was-closed https://www.abc.net.au
[05:04:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Up to 80 Thieves Pillage High-end California Department Store Nordstrom - ABC News" (45p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[05:26:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hubble Telescope Captures Cosmic Remains of Unusual White Dwarf Supernova - https://sylnt.us - outaspace!
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[11:08:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Electric Propulsion Comes of Age with Psyche Mission to an Asteroid - https://sylnt.us - AXE:-Advancing-Xenon-Emitters
[13:47:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In the Brain’s Cerebellum, a New Target for Suppressing Hunger - https://sylnt.us - that's-enough
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[16:27:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - As We Develop, the Brain Connects Lessons Learned Differently - https://sylnt.us - interesting
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[19:16:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hydrogen Infrastructure in the EU - https://sylnt.us - Blue-Green-As-Long-As-It-Heats-the-Place
[19:53:17] <chromas> https://soylentnews.org
[19:53:18] <systemd> ^ 03Specific Facial Features Can Help Distinguish Children From Adults: SoylentNews Submission
[19:53:26] <chromas> Ghislaine Maxwell equation?
[19:59:20] <FatPhil> She does have a certain electric magnetism
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[20:32:35] <kyonko000> anyone notice that hexchat has always been buggy as hell?
[20:33:23] <kyonko000> but with the right os, and with the right client, it will accept self signed ssl certs
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[21:52:34] <progo> kyonko000: are you mostly using HexChat and excluding all others?
[21:52:38] <progo> I feel like that about Zim Desktop Wiki
[21:52:45] <progo> so perfect but so many papercuts
[21:52:53] <progo> been using it for over 10 years
[21:54:12] <kyonko000> i like kvirc, especially for it's mirc like /list, but its mirc like scripting is just as bad as mirc
[21:54:30] <kyonko000> there is a lot of crap out there, and its getting worse
[21:54:50] <kyonko000> i just, always remember hexchat buggy since i was using xchat with openssl.dll in 2008
[21:54:50] <progo> I settled on Quassel a long time ago with the IRC client being a separate process from the UI, optionally on different hosts and with many UI instances
[21:55:01] <progo> it's missing a LOT of features you'd expect from hexchat or weechat or irssi
[21:55:10] <progo> but it gets the job done for me
[21:55:19] <kyonko000> oh if you want good, you can use irssi or its ilk, but normal people can't, not even jabber for xmpp (or sign up for it)
[21:55:38] <kyonko000> profanity
[21:55:55] <kyonko000> so, its federated and wants your email and keeps your email for all transactions
[21:56:03] <progo> what? no
[21:56:11] <progo> I own my entire quassel setup
[21:56:18] <progo> quassel has no branded service
[21:56:21] <kyonko000> its hopeless, normal people will use stupid means for electronic communication
[21:56:30] <kyonko000> yeah you own all of it
[21:56:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Capture Humour’s Earliest Emergence - https://sylnt.us - you-cannot-be-serious!
[21:57:03] <kyonko000> xmpp was hopeful along with opensolaris and zfs
[21:57:08] <kyonko000> but now we are in the dystopia
[21:57:19] <progo> facebook and google embraced xmpp and then fucked it in the ass
[21:57:26] <progo> that didn't help it's gaining a foothold
[21:57:30] <kyonko000> you can dive into xmpp but that will involve setting up your own email server
[21:57:34] <kyonko000> oh
[21:57:42] <kyonko000> facebook took xmpp to trap "hackers"
[21:57:53] <progo> xmpp is too complicated
[21:57:59] <kyonko000> irc is too complicated
[21:58:13] <progo> there's a python "mini IRCd" for limited projects or "testing", and it's like 100 or 200 lines of code
[21:58:17] <kyonko000> cgi-bin webforums are too complicated (still asks for email, unless its 4chan which is actually from japan)
[21:58:35] <progo> instant channel hub for any scripts you're running privately and just needed to send messages to each other
[21:58:59] <kyonko000> just look at the dumpster fire PSTN/POTS is over VOIP with SS7 from 1975 today
[21:59:46] <kyonko000> its over 100lbs of books on IT fundamentals
[21:59:53] <kyonko000> then another 100lbs on math
[22:00:05] <progo> how many libraries of congress is that?
[22:02:03] <kyonko000> modern meta-tards don't want to give out their email, don't want to give out their phone number
[22:02:11] <kyonko000> fuck man, wear two masks too?
[22:02:28] <kyonko000> irc orginally was supposed to check and verify smtp
[22:02:30] <progo> I'll be wearing a mask and nothing else in the meatverse
[22:02:39] <kyonko000> ha
[22:02:44] <kyonko000> i don't plan to go there
[22:02:53] <progo> I wonder how much it'd cost to get a good nude avatar of myself sans genitals
[22:03:02] <kyonko000> then you would just be a ken doll
[22:03:03] <progo> the meatverse will be for porn
[22:03:04] <progo> only porn
[22:03:33] <kyonko000> i gave up computering gaming when it started to get too much like stanford prison experiment or the milgram experiment
[22:04:17] <kyonko000> i know one guy who was into final fantasy in the ps1, he had a shinra.org webmail and now he actually works for shinra and looks like that guy
[22:05:00] <kyonko000> the shinra boss looks like donald trump
[22:06:30] <kyonko000> https://finalfantasy.fandom.com
[22:06:31] <systemd> ^ 03Shinra Electric Power Company | Final Fantasy Wiki | Fandom
[22:07:23] <progo> the only Final Fantasy I know anything substantial about is the film from 2000 ± a year or two
[22:08:31] <kyonko000> final fantasy is confusing as fuck
[22:08:59] <kyonko000> final fantasy was supposed to go for n64 and MIPS and look a lot like golden eye
[22:14:12] <kyonko000> https://www.besentermine.de
[22:14:14] <systemd> ^ 03News Publisher
[22:15:49] <kyonko000> https://www.theninhotline.com
[22:15:49] <systemd> ^ 03The Nine Inch Nails Hotline
[22:15:58] <kyonko000> and there you have it folks
[22:16:13] <kyonko000> happened around the same time that ISP's began to firewall against p2p software
[22:16:43] <kyonko000> a normal person can't set up a vpn without a retarded hand holding touchscreen app, i am sorry
[22:19:37] <kyonko000> https://www.theninhotline.com
[22:19:37] <systemd> ^ 03The Nine Inch Nails Hotline
[22:19:47] <kyonko000> and this is a simple site, which requires no uh... well
[22:19:53] <kyonko000> you know
[22:19:53] <kyonko000> ftp and the ~
[22:20:58] <kyonko000> I truly do remember quake III areana and direct x
[22:22:54] <kyonko000> those dudes at the nin site have their own site emails
[22:23:18] <kyonko000> iirc, the big webmail providors blackhole small servers
[22:23:52] <progo> I bought the first direct-to-consumer mp3 album for sale from Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails. his site promised I wouldn't get spam at the email address I used. I did, from his setup.
[22:24:02] <progo> was some years before I paid for mp3s again from anyone
[22:24:07] <kyonko000> oh my ISP email addy is full of spam :)
[22:24:19] <kyonko000> and I just recently found how how I get scam calls on VOIP
[22:25:27] <kyonko000> usually the big webmails check if its an ISP mail server
[22:26:17] <kyonko000> turns out my 192.168.0.1 "Class C" is actually an isp intranet
[22:26:22] <kyonko000> i'm on subnet 42
[22:26:34] <kyonko000> so i poked around what lurks on other subnets, and holy shit
[22:27:29] <kyonko000> http://192.168.0.1 isn't even my modem-router/gateway, but my billing dash
[22:28:22] <kyonko000> 192.168.42.1 is my modem-router/gateway and from there it hops to a Class B of 172.16-31.0.1
[22:29:23] <kyonko000> it gets better
[22:29:34] <kyonko000> t-mobile NAT uses a Class A of 10.0.0.1
[22:29:45] <kyonko000> makes me wonder how the fuck it worked out with 4chan
[22:30:00] <kyonko000> (if you ever got the b& gif of the kid with the dead dog)
[22:30:43] <kyonko000> makes me wonder about a lot of things
[22:45:50] <Runaway1956> Why is kyonko zeroed out today? Is this another librul plot?
[22:46:29] <progo> he installed left-pad
[22:47:09] <kyonko000> i am limited to 1,000
[22:47:19] <kyonko000> remember, the limits of the machine?
[22:47:50] <kyonko000> this is the GAH-nu math
[22:48:03] <kyonko000> is gnu really said gah-nu?
[22:48:26] <Runaway1956> Not in my computer room.
[22:48:39] <kyonko000> the FLOSS youtubers call it gah-nu
[22:48:52] <Runaway1956> That's an affectation
[22:49:07] <kyonko000> none of them has used a touchscreen desktop for gnome 3
[22:49:10] <Runaway1956> Like beatniks talked wierd 40 years ago, just to stand out
[22:49:24] <kyonko000> oh beatniks even did everything wierd
[22:49:41] <kyonko000> i had a beatnik teacher
[22:49:49] <kyonko000> he was in the air force lol
[22:50:04] <Runaway1956> Air Force is weird anyway
[22:50:24] <Runaway1956> They screwed up when they deserted from the Army Air Corps
[22:51:19] <kyonko000> this guy was security forces at the minute man silos
[22:51:52] <Runaway1956> Attu Island, we landed, and were "escorted" into a waiting room.
[22:52:08] <Runaway1956> AF security on each side of us, carrying M14
[22:52:35] <Runaway1956> telling us "don't look left, don't look right, don't look up, just look at your feet and walk straight ahead"
[22:52:47] <Runaway1956> and, no windows in the lounge, nothing
[22:52:51] <kyonko000> Attu, thats near the international date line
[22:53:11] <Runaway1956> Actually, I think the jogged the date line so it would stay American
[22:53:24] <kyonko000> its not straight
[22:53:36] <Runaway1956> Neither is the Air Force straight.
[22:53:41] <kyonko000> heh
[22:53:51] <kyonko000> the soviets used kamchatka for nuclear tests
[22:54:05] <kyonko000> but that was ended before kennedy
[22:54:18] <Runaway1956> Yeah, we could look from our back yards in Alaska and see Russia
[22:54:19] <kyonko000> or whenever they agreed to stop doing it
[22:54:38] <Runaway1956> specially on days they set off bombs
[22:54:44] <kyonko000> the above ground nuclear test ban
[22:55:16] <kyonko000> lots of morons escaping poverty during those days
[22:55:18] <kyonko000> could care less
[22:55:40] <Runaway1956> You can't really escape poverty -
[22:55:46] <Runaway1956> just when you think you got away
[22:55:47] <kyonko000> a lot of people did
[22:55:53] <kyonko000> oh you mean trump
[22:55:53] <Runaway1956> government takes more taxes
[22:55:58] <kyonko000> he had to become potus
[22:56:27] <kyonko000> out of all places, he had to choose mar a lago
[22:56:33] <kyonko000> instead of well you know, the rockies in montana
[22:57:00] <Runaway1956> Trump is a New Yorker - he knows shit about Montana
[22:57:33] <kyonko000> you can't possibly be so old as to have been of draft age during the nuclear tests in the soviet union
[22:57:53] <Runaway1956> No, the abolished the draft while I was in high school
[22:58:05] <Runaway1956> I was part of the 'All Volunteer Armed Forces'
[22:58:20] <Runaway1956> Of course, the Navy never did draft people anyway
[22:58:32] <Runaway1956> We were always superior, didn't need a draft
[22:59:27] <kyonko000> I don't know how militarized the area south and north of diomede island are these days
[22:59:45] <kyonko000> but i forget everything i learn
[22:59:54] <kyonko000> or everything i experience
[23:00:06] <kyonko000> really find mindlink tempting
[23:00:19] <kyonko000> but if musk himself won't use it
[23:00:47] <Runaway1956> Mindlink uses Musk.
[23:02:09] <kyonko000> Musk has moved to texas, I'm not very thrilled to see 1990's pick up trucks working the space port grounds for spacex
[23:02:19] <kyonko000> where's the cybrtrks
[23:02:39] <kyonko000> but like trump, musk is doing 6D chess with a touch of neo-luddism
[23:04:32] <kyonko000> http://web.archive.org
[23:04:34] <systemd> ^ 03GWScripts
[23:07:18] <kyonko000> http://web.archive.org
[23:08:28] <kyonko000> it works
[23:08:29] <kyonko000> everything works
[23:08:46] <kyonko000> https://knowyourmeme.com
[23:08:46] <systemd> ^ 03Trollface
[23:16:43] <kyonko000> http://web.archive.org
[23:16:43] <systemd> ^ 03GWScripts Forums
[23:17:20] <kyonko000> http://web.archive.org
[23:17:20] <systemd> ^ 03GWScripts Forums
[23:19:04] <kyonko000> http://web.archive.org
[23:19:08] <kyonko000> https://knowyourmeme.com
[23:19:08] <systemd> ^ 03Trollface
[23:19:28] <kyonko000> warez da bloat?
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[23:56:19] <kyonko000> https://courses.cs.vt.edu
[23:56:20] <systemd> ^ 03Not robust....problem with Board?