#soylent | Logs for 2021-11-20

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[00:00:23] <Bytram> bare bones for now
[00:00:44] <Deucalion> What terminal emulator are you using?
[00:00:58] <Bytram> bash shell
[00:01:41] <Bytram> whatever Ubuntu Mate gives me.
[00:02:50] <Deucalion> Soooo... all these bash sessions you want to log are all on the same system? i.e. you didn't ssh some@other.server and start bashing there?
[00:03:13] <Bytram> same system, yes
[00:03:39] <Deucalion> Why would you have 12 terms on your own local PC?
[00:03:48] <Deucalion> :/ :/
[00:04:13] <Bytram> I did ssh in one of them, but that one I *know* and don'r need to log separately
[00:06:06] <Bytram> each separate "task" has it's one term -- keep things with separate thought processes in separate places
[00:06:17] <Bytram> s/'//
[00:06:17] <SedBot> <Bytram> each separate "task" has its one term -- keep things with separate thought processes in separate places
[00:07:09] <Bytram> that I can independenty access, scroll, move, tile, etc.
[00:16:57] <halibut> Bytram: mkdir -p -- ~/var/logs/term-saves
[00:17:08] <halibut> The -p lets you make all the subdirectories at once.
[00:17:27] <Bytram> halibut++
[00:17:27] <Bender> karma - halibut: 16
[00:17:28] <halibut> The cost is, if you are using a script, you do not always get to detect certain errors. Probably not a problem here.
[00:19:32] <Bytram> from man page
[00:19:35] <Bytram> -p, --parents
[00:19:35] <Bytram> no error if existing, make parent directories as needed
[00:19:52] <Deucalion> You are making children
[00:20:00] <Bytram> PERFECT!
[00:20:11] <halibut> Sometimes, in a script, you want to know if the directory already existed, so you can abort.
[00:21:09] <Bytram> got it. In this case, I just want the tree to exist
[00:32:52] <Bytram> break time
[00:34:06] <halibut> If anybody is interested, I threw together a quick set of bash functions that do more or less what was described (a save function that saves the current directory and the current history, and a restore that goes to that directory and reads in the history).
[00:47:56] <Bytram> halibut++ I'm interested!
[00:47:56] <Bender> karma - halibut: 17
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[03:06:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's Perseverance Captures Challenging Flight by Mars Helicopter - https://sylnt.us
[03:38:51] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[03:38:54] <systemd> ^ 03Paralysed Mice Walk Again After a Single Injection - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[03:52:56] <chromas> Should've been an iPhone story
[03:53:59] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[03:54:01] <systemd> ^ 03Perceptual Links Between Sound and Shape May Unlock Origins of Spoken Words - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[03:54:59] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[03:55:01] <systemd> ^ 03OSU Study Yields a First in Fossil Research: Seeds Sprouting From an Amber-Encased Pine Cone - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[03:55:44] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[03:55:46] <systemd> ^ 03Microsoft Cancels x64 Emulation on Windows 10 on Arm to Boost Windows 11 - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[03:56:40] <Bytram> LOL! That's an IOU for sure!
[05:23:48] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.eff.org big brother is always watching
[05:23:50] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Crowd-Sourced Suspicion Apps are Out of Control" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:29:04] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.eff.org Put the $5 wrench away, corporal.
[05:29:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Police Can’t Demand You Reveal Your Phone Passcode and Then Tell a Jury You Refused" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:31:43] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.eff.org If big brother isn't listening, Big Mama surely is!
[05:31:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Apple Has Listened and Will Retract Some Harmful Phone-Scanning" (7p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[05:43:37] <GhostofAristarchus> Runaway is filled with ammosexual jism? Gross! And accusations of serially numbered Sockpuppets are appearing, with a claim of an admin leak? Hmm.
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[05:57:06] <GhostofAristarchus> https://soylentnews.org through 8? Maybe more. The tide is turned, hemo is gone, Runaway is rampant.
[05:57:07] <systemd> ^ 03Fuck You Niggers 3 - SoylentNews User
[05:59:21] <Runaway1956> Just stop looking at my rampant, aristarchus.
[06:00:34] <GhostofAristarchus> I hope you are armed, in case you need to defend yourself from REAL Americans, and don't call me "aristarchus". That is not who I am.
[06:01:03] <Runaway1956> Maybe I'll call you Shirly, because, Shirly it is obvious who you are.
[06:01:31] <GhostofAristarchus> GhostofAristarchus has blocked Runaway1956
[06:01:52] <Runaway1956> Awwwww, isn't that cuuuuute?
[06:02:24] <GhostofAristarchus> Admins, a kick of this murderous bastard is not out of order.
[06:02:45] * Runaway1956 hasn't murdered aristarchus yet
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[06:04:35] <aristarchus> So why are you talking to my ghost, you murdering Runaway?
[06:05:01] <Runaway1956> I talk to you the same, dead or alive - with contempt mostly
[06:05:20] <aristarchus> I concur in the call to kick Runaway, for unseemly behavior, and advocating violence.
[06:05:53] * Runaway1956 moves the plot to kill aristarchus ahead - we can't have him and his ghost on channel at the same time
[06:06:29] <GhostofAristarchus> Those who live in double-wides, I was shocked to see a post that doxxed you so!
[06:06:55] <Runaway1956> Double-wides? Nope, you're dreaming of someone else.
[06:07:40] <aristarchus> Liar! But then, you always have been.
[06:08:16] <Runaway1956> Maybe I did lie to yo mama, but that was years ago.
[06:08:56] <Runaway1956> "I'll only put the tip in, Geraldine, promise!"
[06:09:38] <AzumaHazuki> what the fuck are you doing?
[06:09:43] <aristarchus> My mama died in 234, BC. You are a temporal pimple on the ass of America, also known as Arkansas. Now I also will have to block you.
[06:10:19] <Runaway1956> Yes, I know when she died. Wasn't she prostituting herself to some upstart Romans?
[06:10:51] <Runaway1956> Another prostitute knifed her in the back for taking away a customer.
[06:11:58] <aristarchus> Request of kick-ban for unseemly behavior repeated.
[06:12:34] <Runaway1956> Is it seemly to log in as two people, and pretend that you aren't?
[06:12:57] <chromas> kickban *ristarchus*!*@*
[06:13:05] <GhostofAristarchus> I concur with the call to kick Runaway.
[06:13:17] <Runaway1956> heh
[06:13:27] <AzumaHazuki> you complete idiot. what the hell good is sockpuppeting going to do your case?
[06:13:28] * chromas look around for a dot
[06:13:49] <GhostofAristarchus> chromas is a sockpuppet?
[06:13:50] <Runaway1956> We may still have some dotcoms in the server room
[06:13:50] <chromas> To be fair, he's never had a case, aside from his headone
[06:14:24] <AzumaHazuki> you, ari
[06:14:31] <Runaway1956> don't forget the basket case
[06:15:00] <aristarchus> I am who I am, I am aristarchus the philosophy man. What is your issue?
[06:15:41] <Runaway1956> the so-called philosophy man has no morals, no ethics, no spine, and no mind
[06:16:07] <aristarchus> Not sure who this "ghost" is, other than I tried the ghost command, and he just appeared.
[06:16:21] <Runaway1956> Lame . . .
[06:16:34] <aristarchus> Disabled
[06:16:48] <Runaway1956> no, just lame
[06:16:48] <aristarchus> Blocked
[06:17:00] <Runaway1956> Glocked trumps blocked
[06:17:04] <chromas> Always figured you were disabled, as slow as you type. I don't wanna make fun though
[06:17:27] <chromas> I do, but I won'tn't
[06:17:31] <Runaway1956> Can a person who was never abled be disabled?
[06:18:05] <chromas> well a person who was ever bor ca be uborn, so maybe
[06:18:24] <chromas> my N key's turning into my F key
[06:18:31] <Runaway1956> two manny typppoes
[06:18:51] <chromas> too outward, not enough inward
[06:19:12] <Runaway1956> there are more innies than outties I think
[06:19:29] * Runaway1956 examines his porn stash
[06:19:48] <GhostofAristarchus> https://soylentnews.org
[06:19:50] <systemd> ^ 03Fuck You Niggers 4 - SoylentNews User
[06:19:50] <chromas> How many exabytes?
[06:20:17] <Runaway1956> I found some pics of ari, I think
[06:20:19] <chromas> is this ari's way of pulling an EF but "oh I was just linking and the words came up!"
[06:20:31] <GhostofAristarchus> Fuck You Niggers 5 (14462)
[06:20:34] <Runaway1956> looks like it
[06:21:12] <GhostofAristarchus> https://soylentnews.org
[06:21:12] <systemd> ^ 03Fuck You Niggers 6 - SoylentNews User
[06:21:37] <Runaway1956> Well, I'd say that one more iteration would merit being muted
[06:21:38] <GhostofAristarchus> What are the odds that all these usernames resolve to a .ru address?
[06:22:05] <GhostofAristarchus> Too many of your sockpuppets being outted, Runaway?
[06:22:21] <Runaway1956> No worries about socks, I have thousands.
[06:22:38] <GhostofAristarchus> https://soylentnews.org
[06:22:39] <systemd> ^ 03Fuck You Niggers 7 - SoylentNews User
[06:22:41] <Runaway1956> My sock creatin scrip runs 24/7/365
[06:23:10] <GhostofAristarchus> Might be Eth, but maybe the Runsaway is hiding under an even more disgusting persona.
[06:23:49] <GhostofAristarchus> https://soylentnews.org
[06:23:50] <systemd> ^ 03Fuck You Niggers 8 - SoylentNews User
[06:24:09] <Runaway1956> http://shitnozzle.com
[06:25:22] <GhostofAristarchus> Hmm, Aug 23, Fuck You Niggers (12375)
[06:25:49] <Runaway1956> How long did it take you to post all of those, ari?
[06:25:52] <GhostofAristarchus> With the link: https://soylentnews.org
[06:25:53] <systemd> ^ 03Fuck You Niggers - SoylentNews User
[06:26:55] <GhostofAristarchus> I am not ari. You are a puppetmaster. All good soylentils have to ask, why do the admin tolerate your attempt to control the discussion here?
[06:27:10] * Runaway1956 yawns
[06:27:10] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into Runaway1956's gaping mouth
[06:27:16] <chromas> no way, shitnozzle.com domain is available?
[06:27:45] <GhostofAristarchus> #weather Little Rock
[06:27:46] <MrPlow> Arkansas State Capitol, State Capitol, Little Rock, AR 72201, USA - Today: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 65/49F, Humidity: 61%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~4mph. Sun: "Possible light rain in the evening." 66/41F, Humidity: 84%, Precip: 56%, Wind ~6mph. Mon: "Clear throughout the day." 55/31F, Humidity: 55%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~6mph.
[06:27:47] <Runaway1956> can't be reached, is what I get
[06:29:12] <Runaway1956> #weather Mars
[06:29:14] <MrPlow> unnamed road, 07320 Mars, France - Today: "Clear throughout the day." 57/34F, Humidity: 65%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~2mph. Sun: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 50/34F, Humidity: 75%, Precip: 10%, Wind ~2mph. Mon: "Foggy in the afternoon and evening." 41/34F, Humidity: 87%, Precip: 15%, Wind ~3mph.
[06:29:28] <Runaway1956> #weather Mars, Pa
[06:29:29] <MrPlow> Self-Service Wash, Pittsburgh St, Mars, Butler County, PA 16046, USA - Today: "Overcast throughout the day." 46/31F, Humidity: 65%, Precip: 3%, Wind ~5mph. Sun: "Rain starting in the afternoon." 44/33F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 93%, Wind ~6mph. Mon: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 36/25F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 69%, Wind ~9mph.
[06:29:51] <Runaway1956> #weather Moon
[06:29:52] <MrPlow> Uue-Toomu, Risti — Virtsu — Kuivastu — Kuressaare, 94766 Muhu vald, Estonia - Today: "Windy in the morning." 44/37F, Humidity: 73%, Precip: 43%, Wind ~21mph. Sun: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 41/30F, Humidity: 77%, Precip: 42%, Wind ~14mph. Mon: "Possible light snow (< 1 in.) overnight." 35/32F, Humidity: 57%, Precip: 39%, Wind ~16mph.
[06:30:12] <Runaway1956> #weather Moscow, Pa
[06:30:13] <MrPlow> Sunoco, South Main St, Stephen Heights, Moscow, PA 18444, USA - Today: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 41/32F, Humidity: 69%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~5mph. Sun: "Light rain in the evening and overnight." 47/38F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 73%, Wind ~7mph. Mon: "Light rain in the morning." 39/25F, Humidity: 83%, Precip: 89%, Wind ~10mph.
[06:30:33] <Runaway1956> Ahhh, haven't seen a Sunoco in ages . . .
[06:31:08] <Runaway1956> #weather Intercourse, Pa
[06:31:09] <MrPlow> 3561 Old Philadelphia Pike, Intercourse, Lancaster County, PA 17534, USA - Today: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 47/33F, Humidity: 71%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~4mph. Sun: "Light rain in the evening and overnight." 52/43F, Humidity: 82%, Precip: 79%, Wind ~6mph. Mon: "Light rain in the morning." 47/26F, Humidity: 80%, Precip: 92%, Wind ~11mph.
[06:31:55] <aristarchus> Almost as nice as the Eth-Subsentient reconcilliation party yesterday.
[06:32:08] <Runaway1956> #weather Bird in Hand, Pa
[06:32:09] <MrPlow> Old Philadelphia Pike, Bird in Hand, Lancaster County, PA 17529, USA - Today: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 47/33F, Humidity: 71%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~4mph. Sun: "Light rain in the evening and overnight." 52/43F, Humidity: 81%, Precip: 79%, Wind ~6mph. Mon: "Light rain in the morning." 47/26F, Humidity: 80%, Precip: 92%, Wind ~11mph.
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[06:38:54] <SoyCow3254> https://www.youtube.com
[06:38:56] <systemd> ^ 03Dilbert - Intro
[06:39:01] <SoyCow3254> Man, that aged really well.
[06:39:23] <SoyCow3254> And fuck Seth MacFarlane for talking shit about Dilbert.
[06:39:35] <SoyCow3254> Dilbert aged pretty fucking well.
[06:39:42] <SoyCow3254> Family Guy not so much
[06:40:56] <SoyCow3254> I am making an effort to be nice but I have to be controversial here and say that a fuckface like Seth MacFarlane made a lot of money from politically-incorrect jokes, and now is put in the awkward position of explaining that.
[06:41:19] <SoyCow3254> Dilbert, on the other hand, is a family-friendly comic.
[06:42:30] * SoyCow3254 backflips into a spray of fart, and leaves
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[06:49:42] <GhostofAristarchus> Smells like another Runaway puppet, but too discerning and intelligent. And Scott Adams has gone insane.
[06:50:49] <GhostofAristarchus> https://soylentnews.org*&sort=1&op=users
[06:50:50] <systemd> ^ 03Search 'Fuck You Niggers*'
[06:53:36] <AzumaHazuki> ari, for fuck's sake, drop this shit. you destroy your own credibility when you sink to their level
[06:53:59] <AzumaHazuki> and i'm pretty sure those aren't runaway's socks. he's too lazy to do that, so he just posts AC and pretends it's not him
[06:54:19] <Runaway1956> lol, if ari floated to the top of the septic tank, he still couldn't crawl out here where I live
[06:54:27] <AzumaHazuki> if you have concrete evidence, show it
[06:55:00] <aristarchus> I am still puzzled, Hazuki-kun, that you think there is any credibility to be had on SN. What I say stands on its own, much like what Runaway says turns out to be total bullshit.
[06:56:39] <GhostofAristarchus> There is an actual accusation in the comments of the latest frontpage article. https://soylentnews.org
[06:56:40] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | NASA's Perseverance Captures Challenging Flight by Mars Helicopter ( https://soylentnews.org )
[06:57:53] <GhostofAristarchus> I mean, to put in in Classic Soylent terms, "WTF is up with all the Troll mods?"
[06:59:13] <AzumaHazuki> okay, a few things...first, unless you're my boss, I'm not "-kun" to you
[06:59:21] <AzumaHazuki> second, who the fuck do you think you're fooling?
[06:59:36] <AzumaHazuki> third, you do not get people to take your side by sinking to the level of your opponent
[07:00:14] <Runaway1956> Someone tell the silly wench that I don't come from Ari's septic tank.
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[07:00:22] <GhostofAristarchus> Age precedes beauty. If I was ari. As a ghost, I am much younger than you, so gomen nasai.
[07:01:54] <AzumaHazuki> Look, people need a solid kick up the arse to change their ways. I'm not saying do anything illegal like dump dox, since that will get you in massive legal trouble
[07:02:09] <Runaway1956> https://www.foxnews.com
[07:02:10] <systemd> ^ 03Nicholas Sandmann offers advice to Kyle Rittenhouse in 'Hannity' exclusive
[07:02:13] <aristarchus> And I am much, much, your senior. So just accept Japanese societal norms, if you are going to go with _your_ false persona!
[07:02:39] <aristarchus> Kyle will be dead inside a year. Not a smart as Zimmerman.
[07:02:54] <AzumaHazuki> again: offer solid evidence for your accusations
[07:03:09] <Runaway1956> Maybe. He'll be surrouded to fifty or sixty libruls
[07:03:18] <AzumaHazuki> runaway is too lazy and limpdicked to put that much effort into making named sockpuppets, IMO. if you have evidence otherwise, enlighten us
[07:03:45] <aristarchus> Like in the case of my mod-ban, the admins hold all the alleged evidence, and so we have to just "trust" them.
[07:04:04] <AzumaHazuki> well, ari, what are you going to do about it?
[07:04:13] <aristarchus> "Trust FatPhil", that made me laugh.
[07:04:27] <AzumaHazuki> i'd trust him over Bytram at this point
[07:04:34] * Runaway1956 trusts fatphil to be fat
[07:04:42] * Runaway1956 trusts fatphil to be phil
[07:04:52] * Runaway1956 trusts fatphil to be fat and phil
[07:04:55] <aristarchus> Provoke Runaway, until he kills some of the editorial staff, and then gets off in a Wisconsin court?
[07:05:09] <AzumaHazuki> so, again: what evidence do you have that FYN{0..9} are Runaway's socks?
[07:06:27] <aristarchus> Alright, we should not engage in editor evaluations on a public forum. Bytram has always been the most fair and even handed ed we have ever had. But, I suspect he is easily overwhelmed.
[07:07:04] <Runaway1956> Wow, that's a nice kind way of saying you think Bytram is a jelly-spined old bastard
[07:09:25] <GhostofAristarchus> If he lets asshole bastards like Runaway1956 to sockpuppet all over the place, yes.
[07:09:59] <Runaway1956> Gather your evidence, and submit it to the admin staff, you idiot
[07:10:26] <Runaway1956> I find it amusing that you're searching every post on the forum for my sock puppets
[07:10:48] <Runaway1956> I also find it amusing to think that you are impersonating EF's personna, on the forum and on IRC
[07:11:02] <Runaway1956> Is that really you coming in all the time, and trashing the place?
[07:11:35] <aristarchus> Strange, that is exactly what the AC is accusing Runaway1956 of!
[07:11:58] <Runaway1956> Yes, strange - almost like projection, huh?
[07:12:07] <AzumaHazuki> if you have hard evidence runaway is the master of puppets here, post it. otherwuse shut the fuck up. i am getting so sick of your ineffectual flailing
[07:12:16] <aristarchus> Alsmost, but reversed.
[07:12:38] <Runaway1956> ineffectual flailing - that's a military sounding term
[07:13:16] <aristarchus> That's "flogging". You would know that, if you ever were actually in the Navy.
[07:13:36] <Runaway1956> Jesus - go grab a dictionary
[07:14:01] <Runaway1956> Why do you dream of flogging a sailor's meat, anyway?
[07:14:28] <aristarchus> And, Hazuki-san, the admins are the only ones with access to the IPs from which things are posted, a weak, but only evidence of sockpuppetry?
[07:15:00] <aristarchus> And if they intentionally do not release such?
[07:15:24] <Runaway1956> Why, exactly, do you believe that you are the only person on SN with an IQ over 80?
[07:15:51] <GhostofAristarchus> You are an ignorant moron, Runaway. You should never forget that.
[07:15:53] <Runaway1956> And, no, don't even TRY to give us a story about an IQ over 100, you can't pull it off
[07:16:19] <aristarchus> We Greeks did not even have IQ tests, and we did alright.
[07:16:20] <Runaway1956> With your IQ of 83, it took you 27 years to get through college
[07:16:40] <Runaway1956> Well, yeah, you were only competing among yourselves and some Persians.
[07:16:49] <aristarchus> Unlike Runaway, who did not get through high school?
[07:16:58] <Runaway1956> In a land of low IQs 83 seems high
[07:17:11] * Runaway1956 yawns
[07:17:11] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into Runaway1956's gaping mouth
[07:17:21] <GhostofAristarchus> GED is Equivalent! Says so right on the Diplomer!
[07:17:37] * Runaway1956 learned more in his off and on college career than you've learned to 2000 years
[07:18:29] <GhostofAristarchus> Runaway did actually attend College? And is still a Trump voter? Do tell us more!
[07:18:52] <Runaway1956> You're boring me 'starchy
[07:19:30] <aristarchus> I have had you blocked this whole time. What were you saying?
[07:20:25] <AzumaHazuki> remember, education isn't knowledge. same way INT != WIS
[07:20:45] <AzumaHazuki> put another way, "can I do this?" is not the same question as "should I do this?"
[07:20:46] <Runaway1956> Yeah, what she said. Even 'Zumi can be right now and then.
[07:21:41] <Runaway1956> https://video.foxnews.com
[07:21:42] <systemd> ^ 03Whitlock: ‘This was a calculated strategy to disarm America’
[07:22:41] <AzumaHazuki> ari, tell me, why waste the energy? runaway is irredeemable. he sold his soul ages ago.
[07:23:18] <AzumaHazuki> all that remains is for him to die, hopefully soon and hopefully poetically/ironically, and then spend $TIME "in Hell" until he's served his sentence
[07:24:00] <Runaway1956> Even though she's right once in awhile, she's still batfuck crazy.
[07:24:04] <AzumaHazuki> and this can be applied to probably several dozens of millions of Americans and several hundreds of millions of people worldwide. many people are good for nothing but to fuel their own infernal flames
[07:24:45] <Runaway1956> Jason Whitlock is smarter than any 30 libruls
[07:24:47] <aristarchus> Reminds me, just came across an announcement, bit long to post here, but what the HELL: Abstract: According to one prominent view, the punishment of hell is constituted by the natural consequences of the damned person’s vicious character; and the damned suffer forever, because they have freely fixed their character in a way that makes repentance psychologically impossible. So, even though God continues to desire reconciliation with persons in hell
[07:25:10] <aristarchus> Yep, there is a character limit.
[07:25:53] <Runaway1956> De Blowsio is trying to bribe kids to get vaxxed, $100 a pop
[07:26:24] <AzumaHazuki> yeah that argument falls flat on its face
[07:27:47] <Runaway1956> Candace Owens says pushing vaccines on children appears 'evil and sinister'
[07:27:54] <AzumaHazuki> plain old law of large numbers states that at some point as time T asymptotically approaches infinity, a person's mind will be in a configuration (at least one of which exists) such that s/he will repent, unless something external to them is blocking it. pure Brownian motion
[07:28:05] <Runaway1956> She compares that to the Hitler Youth
[07:28:14] <Runaway1956> DeBlowsio Youth?
[07:28:32] <AzumaHazuki> when this is pointed out, the apologists who run the previous argument will eventually cave and tell you "God prevents them from repenting because $REASON"
[07:29:05] <Runaway1956> Why you get her going on her remake of Dante?
[07:30:01] <GhostofAristarchus> "Candace Owens says"? OMG! Well, that settles it, then? Auntie Tom? Let's Go, Runaway!!
[07:30:05] <AzumaHazuki> the willful hardening of character is what damns someone, not what keeps them there. as reference, most of the pre-Nicene church fathers were Universalist, and specifically use reference to greek terms such as "basanios" ("touchstoning," i.e., constant refining of base ore by fire and force)
[07:30:36] <Runaway1956> Your use of Auntie Tom is more racist than just calling her a dumb nigger
[07:30:54] <Runaway1956> Maybe you really are FYN one through 99
[07:31:24] <GhostofAristarchus> Natural consequences of the damned person's vicious character. You have been forewarned, Runaway! Repent, the power of Christ compels you! Repent!
[07:31:31] <Runaway1956> And, you're also jealous that she's prettier than anyone on the squat squad
[07:31:54] <Runaway1956> I'll deal with Christ when it's time.
[07:32:00] <GhostofAristarchus> Maybe she can win a Herman Cain award?
[07:32:19] <AzumaHazuki> pssh, the power of having nowhere to run or hide is what will compel him eventually. light feels like fire when you're full of shit
[07:32:28] <aristarchus> Now, now, boys, let's settle down.
[07:32:44] <AzumaHazuki> without the body, you are stripped down to your raw self. no illusions, no excuses, no more hiding
[07:33:11] <Runaway1956> So, you don't like Herman either? Why, because he's black? You don't like his flat nose and thick lips?
[07:33:19] <Runaway1956> Or, is it just the curly hair?
[07:33:58] <Runaway1956> I will note that Herman ain't very pretty - Candace has him beat to hell and back.
[07:34:35] <Runaway1956> And, I'm sure he looks even worse in 2021 than he did in July 2020
[07:35:51] <GhostofAristarchus> Let's go on, Runaway!
[07:36:24] <aristarchus> The more he says, the more it is obvious he is an ignorant moron.
[07:36:28] <AzumaHazuki> so, are either of the aristarchuses (aristarchi[i]?) going to let the rest of us in on their evidence that those are runaway's socks or what?
[07:37:57] <GhostofAristarchus> I posted the link to the comment by an AC, who claimed to have leaked admin info, but, you know, how reliable is that, since we know nothing of what the admins know. https://soylentnews.org
[07:37:59] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | NASA's Perseverance Captures Challenging Flight by Mars Helicopter ( https://soylentnews.org )
[07:39:06] <aristarchus> I did find the up-modding of the APK spam highly unusual. Just saying.
[07:39:07] <AzumaHazuki> that AC was obviously you
[07:39:11] <Runaway1956> So, long story short, you got nothing except that Runaway has made you paranoid. Dumbass.
[07:39:20] <AzumaHazuki> you're wearing on my patience
[07:39:32] <Runaway1956> Is that kinky?
[07:39:32] <aristarchus> Again, you assume too much, my young paduwan.
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[07:39:58] <Runaway1956> No, ari, you ass too much.
[07:39:59] <GhostofAristarchus> No, Runaway, it is not.
[07:41:08] <GhostofAristarchus> Back to the buttsex Runaway obsession? Why am I not surprised. Can you squeal like a pig, Runaway? You sure have a purty mouth! I hear banjos!
[07:41:31] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[07:41:33] <systemd> ^ 03Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition
[07:41:42] <Runaway1956> Of course you hear banjos, fool
[07:42:38] <GhostofAristarchus> Actually, Banjos are instruments with an African heritage. I really like Steve Martin on the Clawhammer.
[07:43:08] <Runaway1956> But Steve Martin never like you, anywhere.
[07:44:11] <AzumaHazuki> ari. you are doing the same thing any sockpuppeting troll does, do you get that? you abuse the intelligence of the people you think you're fooling but aren't. the style is yours, the cause is yours...who the hell else would that be?
[07:44:15] <Runaway1956> There's talk that the Wisconsin game commission is going to put a bounty on libruls.
[07:44:22] <AzumaHazuki> why do you do this? why can't you just shoot straight?
[07:44:52] <Runaway1956> Can't shoot straight 'cause he's skeered o GUNMZ!
[07:45:35] <Runaway1956> Hoplophobes is like that
[07:47:59] <aristarchus> Again, my dear Hazuki-kun, what do you expect I would gain by any other strategy? All any of us here are is personas, the Latin for a Mask, and we tend to have a signature that does with it.
[07:48:52] * Runaway1956 thinks it funny when ari grovels at 'Zumi's feet
[07:49:24] <Runaway1956> grovel in the gravel, ari
[07:49:27] <AzumaHazuki> which is my point exactly. your masks all fucking look alike
[07:49:37] <AzumaHazuki> and it's insulting as hell to keep trying to pretend they aren't
[07:49:39] <Runaway1956> That nice shiny, pointy quartz gravel
[07:49:52] <aristarchus> But what if I were to tell you how much actually outrank Runaway, in any metric that matters. Do you think it would be believed? Aristarchus is an ancient Greek philosopher, I stand for reason and knowledge, and hopefully wisdom. I put myself on the cross of idiots like Runaway, so they will not succeed.
[07:50:18] <Runaway1956> Yes, ari is rank we'll admit that
[07:50:44] <aristarchus> And you grovel at my feet, Runaway. You're just too stupid to know it.
[07:51:12] <Runaway1956> ROFL - if you ever see me at your feet, you'll be lying in your coffin
[07:51:52] <aristarchus> Death threats? Runaway, the FBI team is just outside your perimeter. Got it on best sources.
[07:52:22] <Runaway1956> The FBI don't scare me, anymore than the impotent fool who believes he's a philosopher
[07:52:35] <Runaway1956> impotence is the only thing you have in common with philosophers
[07:53:11] <Runaway1956> Remember the last time the FBI tried to enter a compound?
[07:53:27] <Runaway1956> I believe that was in Wacky Waco
[07:53:50] <Runaway1956> Killed a couple hundred people, just because they wanted one guy.
[07:54:12] <Runaway1956> #freebird
[07:54:18] <Runaway1956> oops #freekyle
[07:54:25] <AzumaHazuki> all this does is feed his persecution complex. are you trying to bait him into doing something violent?
[07:54:27] <Runaway1956> oh yeah, they're the same!
[07:54:54] <AzumaHazuki> give it up. he's too old and weak-willed for that. he flaps his lips a lot but it's all hot air.
[07:54:58] <Runaway1956> He'll have to come to my place before I do anything violent, and he lacks the gonads for taht
[07:55:21] <GhostofAristarchus> He's too much of a coward, but if we can just get him to cross the line, without actually hurting anyone . . .
[07:55:28] <Runaway1956> Keep in mind that I've never been convicted of any of my murders
[07:56:05] <Runaway1956> There was that Greek in Norway
[07:56:14] <Runaway1956> And, another Greek in Puerto Rico
[07:56:25] <Runaway1956> yet another Greek in Greece
[07:56:32] <AzumaHazuki> give it up. he won't cross any lines, because at the end of the day, all he cares about is his own ass
[07:56:34] <Runaway1956> Can't forget the one in Venice
[07:56:38] <GhostofAristarchus> Neither has your state-mate, Josh Duggers.
[07:56:49] <AzumaHazuki> you're wasting your time and ours on this
[07:56:52] <Runaway1956> Did Josh dugger you?
[07:57:03] <Runaway1956> Or, did he bugger you?
[07:57:40] <aristarchus> Why does Little River County have the highest incidence of sex crimes against children?
[07:58:00] <Runaway1956> Probably because you have visited here/
[07:58:01] <Runaway1956> ?
[07:58:26] <aristarchus> Double-wide
[07:58:29] <Runaway1956> Citations needed,
[07:58:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientist Advances Prospect of Regeneration in Humans - https://sylnt.us
[07:58:39] <Runaway1956> Whatever Moe
[08:00:17] <GhostofAristarchus> It is like I am blocked from crime stats in Arkansas, not being a resident. Are they hiding something?
[08:02:19] <Runaway1956> I suspect that the FBI might be blocking your access
[08:02:54] <Runaway1956> They don't like to see criminals gloating over their exploits
[08:03:12] <GhostofAristarchus> No, seems to be something about US sites not following decent EU privacy laws. Hmmm.
[08:04:32] <aristarchus> Rest of the abstract on HELL: Since God enables human free choice to accept God’s invitation to salvation in their pre-mortem lives, God would re-enable that ability to accept freely God’s invitation to salvation in their post-mortem lives. That is, God would make direct or indirect alterations in the character of damned persons and give them new motivational reasons that re-enable their freedom to repent. But then, it is probable all damned pe
[08:04:59] <Runaway1956> What about ante-mortem?
[08:05:20] <aristarchus> Last bit: > because there is a potential infinity of opportunities for each person to choose freely to repent. Thus, if such views about the nature of hell and divine love are correct, probably all will be saved.
[08:05:39] <aristarchus> Repent, Runaway! It is your last hope!
[08:05:53] * Runaway1956 yawns
[08:05:53] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into Runaway1956's gaping mouth
[08:06:43] <aristarchus> And if, a la Azuma, you burn in hell for all eternity, well, it is your own fault.
[08:06:48] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah, I was making a list of all the Greeks I've murdered . . .
[08:07:28] <Runaway1956> There were those 3 Greeks who ran what they called a "boarding school" in Mozambique
[08:07:46] <GhostofAristarchus> No wonder you are so drawn to the Rittenhauser trial, with all your murdering fantasies. Maybe you should seek professional help?
[08:08:10] <Runaway1956> I am the professional Greek killer, don't need any help.
[08:08:34] <GhostofAristarchus> And, as a Ghost, I am not Greek. But you are still a dick.
[08:09:05] <Runaway1956> The Nazi hunters are slowly dying out but there will always be a need for Greek hunters.
[08:10:11] <aristarchus> Bytram, or MartyB, time to clean up the #Soylent channel? If you let Eth and Runaway pollute this channel, which is supposed to be the "landing place" for newbies and whatnot, you are harming SoylentNews. Seriously.
[08:10:30] <Runaway1956> Do ya hear them banjos?
[08:11:09] <Runaway1956> They're coming to get you ari!
[08:13:43] <AzumaHazuki> i don't think he gives a shit
[08:13:49] <AzumaHazuki> if he hasn't by now...
[08:14:18] <Runaway1956> Why aren't there any Greeks in China?
[08:16:38] * Runaway1956 wonders how many human newborns were vivisected for that article on the front page?
[08:16:54] <Runaway1956> Godwin must be a librul
[08:21:04] <GhostofAristarchus> Ignorant Moron
[08:22:41] <aristarchus> αδαής ηλίθιος, or just ιδιωτικός.
[08:24:58] <AzumaHazuki> fuck this
[08:25:41] <AzumaHazuki> no more ari posts. no runaway posts, as before. you two can wank each other off in peace now
[08:26:08] <aristarchus> Ultimately, that is the conclusion. Any site that allows Runaway will die.
[08:26:38] <GhostofAristarchus> I'm already dead!
[08:43:38] <GhostofAristarchus> https://soylentnews.org is not going well. Janirok is in the house, and everything if off topic. Help would be appreciated. Except, all the Americans are asleep, and the Auzzies have all left?
[08:43:40] <systemd> ^ 03NASA's Perseverance Captures Challenging Flight by Mars Helicopter - SoylentNews
[08:47:35] <aristarchus> I am trying to understand Azuma Hazuki's frustration with my persona. I don't get it, frankly. Do millennials believe that people on line are what they present themselves as?
[08:50:32] <janrinok> Even those who have previously supported you have now seen your true colours.
[08:51:01] <aristarchus> What are those, my dear ex-pat Brit?
[08:53:15] <GhostofAristarchus> Nice thing about being a Ghost: everything is Black or White. Of course, there is quite a bit of Gray. Like 50+ shades.
[08:58:29] <FatPhil> eww, "grey" please.
[09:01:18] <GhostofAristarchus> As you wish, but you are still lexically incorrect, FatPhil.
[09:03:33] <FatPhil> my lexicon says no
[09:04:09] <GhostofAristarchus> Ah, so you actually have a lexicon? I am duly impressed.
[09:08:15] <FatPhil> Coming from you, that, erm, doesn't change anything. I think you're impressed by your own toes each morning.
[09:09:11] <GhostofAristarchus> But not with your toes, oh Phil 'o Fat! Carry on, and remain calm.
[09:10:02] <aristarchus> And do not flatten yourself by thinking I said any such thing, FatPhil!
[09:15:48] <AzumaHazuki> what a stupid, senseless, tragic waste
[09:16:27] <FatPhil> tragicomedy - you've got to laugh
[09:17:06] <aristarchus> The perspective of millennium suggests nothing different
[09:27:08] <GhostofAristarchus> Does this mean that Admin has no intention of rectifying the sockpuppet situation? After the bolloxed effort the last time, I understand the reluctance. But this is APK>
[09:33:09] <aristarchus> Oh , no! Seems Runaway1956 is dead? Or is that just a nasty rumor?
[09:33:33] <FatPhil> Oi! Your profile says that you were banned by FatPhil. That is factually incorrect. I wholeheartedly supported the mod ban, because I did a fuckton of research in order to dig up a whole load of evidence of mod abuse, but I did not perform the action itself. Facts and you aren't friends at all, are they?
[09:35:00] <aristarchus> Without FatPhil, I would not have been mod-banned? Do you not want to be held up in the Halls of Admins with TMB? Represent, FatPhil!
[09:37:43] <GhostofAristarchus> I notice more and more instances where FatPhil is being identified as right-wing. I do not want to believe it, since I am a Ghost. But you have to be careful who you hang with. *chromas* (cough)
[09:39:49] <FatPhil> Again, utterly non-facty
[09:41:00] <FatPhil> 3 people did the research, the conclusions were all identical. It was impossible to come up with any other conclusion.
[09:42:13] <aristarchus> Let me explain how FatPhil, with his anti-aristarchus biases, was a necessary, but not a sufficient condition of the mod-banning of aristarchus. Feel better, now?
[09:42:41] <FatPhil> again, utterly non-facty.
[09:42:54] <FatPhil> you and facts are practically sworn enemies
[09:43:45] <FatPhil> You have literally reversed what was said in the space of one minute. Is your stack so shallow you can't remember the start of a sentence by the time you reach the full stop?
[09:43:48] <aristarchus> Of course, I, like many soylentils, thing your research is totally bogus, since you accuse us of things that we know for a fact that we did not do. The sheer number of false "ari" sightings ought to give one pause.
[09:44:57] <aristarchus> Again, FatPhil's incompetence in Logic is made apparent, to this Glorious Sun of York.
[09:45:56] <GhostofAristarchus> Why does FatPhil hate aristarchus so?
[09:47:52] <FatPhil> You don't have the mental faculties to "think".
[09:48:00] <FatPhil> I could replace you with a 20-line perl script
[09:48:44] <aristarchus> C'mon, you imbecile! JavaScript! Go for it!
[09:49:24] <GhostofAristarchus> I repeat my question: Why does FatPhil hate aristarchus so?
[09:50:28] <FatPhil> Don't flatter yourself.
[09:51:46] <GhostofAristarchus> I was asking for a friend.
[09:52:24] <FatPhil> Asking a serial narcissist to not flatter himself is probably the stupidest thing I've done this morning.
[09:52:33] <GhostofAristarchus> Oh, and "What does God need with a Starship?"
[09:53:19] <aristarchus> You are the one who claims to talk to God, which is yourself. Narcissismus?
[09:55:32] <GhostofAristarchus> So you see, the future of SoylentNews is in your hands. All soylentils beg you to please take care, and avoid getting bogged down in petty rivalrys, and anti-aristarchusism. You can do it. And if not, well, . . . .
[09:57:15] <aristarchus> I was looking for news on Ingenuity, and I got lectured by janrinok instead, and I wasn
[09:57:28] <aristarchus> 't even the one posting.
[10:00:04] <FatPhil> single-celled brain unable to detect joke. surprise meter's needle didn't twitch.
[10:06:19] <GhostofAristarchus> You are severely undereducated, FatPhil, particularly for an Englishman. Americans expect someone with a British accent to be smarter! Oft, however, they are sadly disappointed.
[10:07:16] <aristarchus> Hey, FatPhil never claimed to be educated! Leave off!
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[10:13:16] <FatPhil> one of us got a place in oxbridge age 16, the the other of us didn't.
[10:14:02] <FatPhil> how surprising, Ari choses an argument that he absolutely can't win.
[10:15:08] <aristarchus> Hmm, one of us was at the School of Alexandria, well before there was an Anglish Sprache. Just saying.
[10:15:36] <FatPhil> awwww, ickle Ari likes his fairy story, how cute.
[10:16:28] <GhostofAristarchus> Present your credentials, FatPhil: who were you at Oxfam at 16?
[10:18:07] <GhostofAristarchus> And why do the Brits torture their children with such early placement? To get them out of the house? I have heard rumours of the English practice of Fostering, so you did not have to work your own children so hard.
[10:19:02] <aristarchus> I observed the same, in Angleland , in the 1400;s
[10:27:41] <GhostofAristarchus> ]Truly a runaway race, the British! Too bad they could not have remained Celts!
[10:31:51] <GhostofAristarchus> How is it that Father Jack used to put it? "DRINK! FECK! ARSE! GIRLS!" Goodnight, or morning, of noonday, Soylentils.
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[10:32:42] <aristarchus> I do think that Eth had a non-anti-semitic role model.
[10:36:32] <aristarchus> So, Fat, Oxbridge credentials? Or are you blowing more smoke up our asses?
[10:43:42] <aristarchus> No, eh?
[10:46:14] <aristarchus> Well, then, we put this on the same level as Runaway1956's Navel service: Most likely fiction.
[10:51:40] <aristarchus> Oh, and Admins, it seems that FatPhil has modded my down consistently, in a pattern and intensity that suggests mod-bombing. I would appreciate some relief from this persecution.
[10:58:48] <aristarchus> If there are any admins with integrity left at SN.
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[11:13:29] <FatPhil> Post stupid posts, win stupid downmods.
[12:37:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 100,000 People Died From Drug Overdoses in the US in One Year, a Record - https://sylnt.us
[13:38:33] <FatPhil> "Time's up, motherfuckers" = Trump's theories fuck me (anagram, that's a Q-shaman quote from Jan 6)
[14:58:21] <Runaway1956> https://wgntv.com
[14:58:25] <systemd> ^ 03Rittenhouse protest in Portland, Oregon, declared a riot
[15:05:02] <FatPhil> Paging Kyle
[16:21:42] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[16:21:44] <systemd> ^ 03Ilulissat Icefjord - iceberg turning over.
[16:22:35] <Runaway1956> Awesome - they say "turning over", but it look more like "breaking up" to me
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[17:26:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NIST Updates Lengthy Florida Condo Collapse Investigation - https://sylnt.us - it-just-fell-down
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[20:05:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 100,000 People Died from Drug Overdoses in the US in One Year, a Record - https://sylnt.us
[20:15:39] <chromas> no od; only covid
[20:16:19] <FatPhil> we know a song about that, don't we, children?
[20:17:51] <chromas> Under the Bridge?
[20:18:26] <chromas> oh
[20:18:31] <chromas> =yt under the bridge
[20:18:32] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Red Hot Chili Peppers - Under The Bridge [Official Music Video] (04:28; 213,648,451 views; 👍973,147 👎26,937)
[20:19:21] <chromas> oh yeah, google's making the disklike count private next month. lols
[20:20:11] <chromas> must be too many people shitting on their dumb videos, like when netflix took away reviews because of the amy schumer speshul
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[22:17:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - C is the Greenest Programming Language - https://sylnt.us - is-it-cost-effective
[22:20:40] <chromas> Nuh uh, Pascal is@
[22:20:52] <chromas> modules make everything better
[22:20:58] <Bytram> @what?
[22:21:49] <Bytram> =g Modulus 2 Nickluse Wirth
[22:21:50] <systemd> https://www.cbssports.com - Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus, Tom Brady among stars reacting on ...
[22:21:54] <chromas> @everything
[22:22:00] <Bytram> lol!
[22:22:34] <Bytram> =g "Modulua 2" "Nicklaus Wirth"
[22:22:35] <systemd> [0 results]
[22:22:47] <Bytram> =g "Modula 2" "Nicklaus Wirth"
[22:22:48] <systemd> https://www.yourdictionary.com - Modula-2 Meaning | Best 1 Definitions of Modula-2
[22:23:33] <chromas> =g modula 2 niklaus wirth
[22:23:34] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Modula-2 - Wikipedia
[22:24:56] <Bytram> =g "Modula 2" "Nicklaus Wirth" -yourdictionary
[22:24:57] <systemd> https://www.amazon.com - Algorithms + Data Structures = Programs (Prentice-Hall Series in ...
[22:25:46] <Bytram> related, yes, but that was a book or 2 earlier!
[22:26:15] <Bytram> =w "Nicklaus Wirth"
[22:26:16] <systemd> [0 results]
[22:26:26] <Bytram> What!!?????
[22:26:39] <Bytram> =w Nicklaus Wirth
[22:26:39] <systemd> graphic designer Niklaus Weckmann (c. 1481-1526), German sculptor Niklaus Wirth (born 1934), Swiss computer scientist Franz Niklaus König (1765–1832), Swiss - https://en.wikipedia.org(name)
[22:28:07] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[22:28:08] <systemd> ^ 03Niklaus Wirth - Wikipedia
[22:34:01] <Bytram> >>> In 1995, he popularized the adage now named Wirth's law, which states that software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware becomes faster. In his 1995 paper "A Plea for Lean Software" he attributes it to Martin Reiser.
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