#soylent | Logs for 2021-11-09
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[00:07:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Drinking Linked to a Decline in Brain Health From Cradle to Grave - https://sylnt.us
[00:38:07] <Runaway1956> Check out this video - https://www.youtube.com
[00:38:09] <systemd> ^ 03RAW VIDEO: Gunman storms altar at North Nashville church
[00:38:19] <Runaway1956> Watch it once just to see what is going on.
[00:38:36] <Runaway1956> Then, I want to draw your attention to the guy in the front row, dressed all in black
[00:38:56] <Runaway1956> I'm trying to decide if he's a brave man, or just simple minded
[00:39:27] <Runaway1956> Dude points a gun at him multiple times, and he just keeps on clapping, maybe singing a hymn
[00:39:47] <Runaway1956> No audio in the video
[01:13:22] <chromas> t's what they get for not masking up
[01:14:57] <chromas> actually, nobody seems fazed at all until the other guy snerks up and brings him down
[02:18:41] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[02:18:42] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Crew-2 Mission | Return (00; 48,807 views; đź‘Ť3,505 đź‘Ž27)
[02:20:37] <progo> the diaper ship?
[02:23:24] <progo> how does this vehicle land? rockets, parachute, and falling in water?
[02:24:14] <Bytram> yes, afaik.
[02:25:29] <progo> landing the Space Shuttle you were coming in super fast in an overly heavy glider and had one shot to hit a single runway
[02:26:18] <Bytram> just stopped by to drop off that link. I suspect Runaway1956 would be interested. Laters.
[02:26:28] <progo> good night
[02:26:46] <progo> and good luck to the mega-sized cannon ball divers
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[02:33:22] <Cascade> https://www.forbes.com
[02:33:23] <systemd> ^ 03Why Fahrenheit Is Better For Conveying Climate Change In The U.S.
[02:33:47] <progo> more degrees for the same absolute value of change
[02:34:34] <Cascade> Apparently we don't believe in climate change because we don't understand the unit. Convert the unit and you'll convert the populace.
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[05:58:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD Announces Milan-X Epyc With 3D V-Cache, Bergamo, and First MCM GPU: Instinct MI200 - https://sylnt.us
[07:31:43] <FatPhil> https://www.timesunion.com
[07:31:44] <systemd> ^ 03Catskill man burst into flames after police tasered him
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[07:52:00] <FatPhil> So the next noisy thing in US politics isn't going to be the MAGA hatters, it's going to be the "Let's Go Brandon" Trumpers, or the LGBT community as I like to call them.
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[09:35:13] <chromas> I remember when I first discovered I could hold the taser button in Syphon Filter
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[09:57:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Series Of Three Great Space Telescope Observatories For The Future Of Astrophysics - https://sylnt.us
[09:59:43] <inz> Hmm, the host name mangling defeats the purpose of using vanity hosts. :/
[10:24:49] <boru> Not really.
[10:25:15] <boru> Over time, you can work out users' unmangled hosts.
[10:25:27] <boru> Or at least get their IP address.
[10:26:19] <boru> But you'd want to be using SASL to really get the use out of vhosts.
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[12:45:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ferocious 'Penis Worms' Were the Hermit Crabs of the Ancient Seas - https://sylnt.us - stop-giggling-at-the-back!
[13:17:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 50 Room-Temperature Qbits by 2025 - https://sylnt.us - cat's-not-dead-until-the-box-is-opened || New Series of Three Great Space Telescope Observatories for the Future of Astrophysics - https://sylnt.us
[13:37:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ferocious "Penis Worms\" Were the Hermit Crabs of the Ancient Seas - https://sylnt.us - stop-giggling-at-the-back!
[13:38:42] <FatPhil> \" ?
[13:43:19] <janrinok> Bytram and his finger problems again.....
[13:45:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ferocious "Penis Worms" Were the Hermit Crabs of the Ancient Seas - https://sylnt.us - stop-giggling-at-the-back!
[13:49:00] <Bytram> it's actually my right *forearm* -- it hurts to type.
[13:52:53] <Cascade> That's why I type with my fingers instead of my forearms ;)
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[15:26:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bedtime Linked With Heart Health - https://sylnt.us - sweet-dreams
[15:37:05] <Teckla> =submit https://www.zdnet.com
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[15:37:08] <systemd> âś“ Sub-ccess! "03Microsoft Will Now Snitch on You at Work Like Never Before" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:38:22] <FatPhil> hurr-durr, /me only just heard about $SQUID
[15:39:03] <FatPhil> Was there a story about that? If so I missed it, obviously.
[15:41:53] <FatPhil> In other news - there's a huge difference between a new
[15:42:39] <FatPhil> (but end of line) LG washing machine with a 1200 spin speed, and an ancient (at least 20 years old) Russian-made one that barely manages 1000 with a lot of scary noises.
[15:44:09] <FatPhil> The new machine's practically silent, apart from the idiotic bleep bloop noises it makes when it turns on, or finishes a program. Alas I can't find a bleedin' manual for it in English, so might never unlock all its features.
[15:47:37] <FatPhil> gotta buy some googly eyes for it, because that's the ultimate pimping for a washing machine.
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[16:59:53] <boru> Things just get better and better... "Firefox doesn’t know how to open this address, because one of the following protocols (http) isn’t associated with any program or is not allowed in this context."
[17:34:36] <inz> HTTP is dead, long live HTTPS
[17:34:44] <inz> s/HTTPS/gopher/
[17:34:44] <SedBot> <inz> HTTP is dead, long live gopher
[17:45:22] <FatPhil> HTTP's fine, it's HTTPS that is, or really ought to be, moribund.
[17:47:20] <FatPhil> Is anyone up on the tech & innards of certs?
[17:48:02] <boru> I've said it many times, centralised trust systems e.g. CAs, are fundamentally broken.
[17:48:12] <boru> Do you have a cert question?
[17:48:19] <boru> Or was that rhetorical?
[17:54:58] <Runaway1956> Rittenhouse trial again - the prosecution has done a fine job of demonstrating to the jury that Rosenbaum's hand was within inches of the muzzle of Rittenhouse's weapon
[17:55:10] <Runaway1956> then demonstrated the same for Huber
[17:55:53] <Runaway1956> Utter incompetence on their part - and I think they've decided to rest their case because they can't damage their case any more
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[18:27:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Samsung Announces Development of LPDDR5X Memory - https://sylnt.us
[18:47:24] <FatPhil> boru: I was wondering whether the recent (actually not so recent) right-to-left unicode trickery can be used to make certs look as if they correspond to the wrong site, or the wrong signer, or something like that.
[19:36:37] <Teckla> boru: What's the alternative to a centralized trust system?
[19:51:54] <Runaway1956> The alternative to a centralized trust system, is to not trust anyone.
[19:53:07] <inz> de-centralized de-trust
[19:57:36] <Runaway1956> There is more going on at the trial - they have a lady on the stand who was helping to guard Car Source
[19:58:05] <Runaway1956> She's painting a worse picture of Rosenbaum than anyone has so far
[19:58:32] <Runaway1956> starting by saying that Rosenbaum threw a chemical bomb that had everyone choking and coughing
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[20:02:39] <Teckla> Runaway1956: How would you, e.g., "buy stuff on Amazon"?
[20:02:49] <Teckla> Safely and securely.
[20:03:21] <Runaway1956> Just use their web interface? I make payments through PayPal, which kinda buffers me from risk.
[20:09:03] <chromas> Put a pubic key in the DNS and use your private to sign your certs for it
[20:09:52] <chromas> That way you at least know the person running the server also controls the DNS, so is more likely to be legit. Works for email
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[21:30:03] <Runaway1956> I wouldn't beleive a word this guy has to say, he's some skinny ginger, BUT
[21:30:26] <Runaway1956> he's painting a bad, bad, BAD picture of Rosenbaum, so I'll believe him.
[21:30:46] <chromas> FatPhil: "he's some skinny ginger" — anagram?
[21:30:47] <Runaway1956> and he took pictures of everything
[21:31:02] <Runaway1956> sure Phil, do an aunti gram
[21:31:34] <Runaway1956> Worse, he's a MILENNIAL skinny ginger!
[21:32:14] <chromas> he's 41?
[21:32:38] <chromas> oh wait, that's X
[21:32:40] <chromas> he's XX
[21:32:44] <Runaway1956> I don't think his age was given, but he's younger than my kids - maybe 30
[21:33:16] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[21:33:18] <systemd> ^ 03LIVE: Kyle Rittenhouse trial: November 9, 2021 (via CourtTV)
[21:33:30] <Runaway1956> see for yourself, he's an adult, but a youngster
[21:36:00] <Runaway1956> I'll also note that he looks Germanic, so he's probably a conservative Nazi fascist
[21:38:33] <FatPhil> who's a skinny ginger?
[21:38:51] <Runaway1956> The guy on the witness stand right now - isn't that hair reddish?
[21:39:12] <Runaway1956> I'm sure I heard his name, but I've forgotten it.
[21:42:15] <FatPhil> = seeing my son's gherkin
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[21:47:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Once Mighty Conglomerate GE to Split Into Three Units - https://sylnt.us
[21:49:29] <Runaway1956> Seems to be a very questionable circumstance, in which the prosecutor asked or implied that the redheaded witness should change his police statement . . . .
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[21:49:57] <Runaway1956> I'm not quite understanding all the implications, but, it certainly seems kinda improper
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[22:38:57] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: Connection issues?
[22:39:54] <AzumaHazuki> kind of? i've been messing with the 1.0 release of lxqt and artix isn't quite where vanilla archlinux is
[22:42:06] <AzumaHazuki> lxqt needs sane defaults. i wrote the Clearlooks theme for it...it should package Clearlooks-Phenix as a default, and ship with a 2-panel layout similar to the old Gnome 2.x/Xfce ones from *buntu
[22:42:18] <AzumaHazuki> qt5 without kde deps and the Cleanlooks theme, too
[22:42:56] <AzumaHazuki> er, qtcurve*
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[22:51:01] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: Ah ha.
[22:51:38] <AzumaHazuki> lxqt has serious potential. it needs sane defaults and a sane default theme
[22:51:49] <AzumaHazuki> and i don't know anything better than the Clearlooks suite for this
[22:53:08] <FatPhil> Sigh. Our local news today: "95 Percent of Covid Treatment Funds Have Gone to Treat Unvaccinated People". Let's play "spot the deliriously happy vaccinated taxpayer". Nope, not here.
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[22:55:37] <Runaway1956> Study finds that 99% of noisy hysteria regarding COVID can be attributed to the vaccinated.
[23:03:44] <AzumaHazuki> butbutbut FREEDUH,BZ
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[23:07:34] <FatPhil> So you're turning your back on your libertarian ideals in a sudden change of colours, eh? Remind me why we should be funding their idiocy? And it is idiocy, trust me, there's a very clear demographic divide.
[23:22:13] <Runaway1956> Who you calling a libertarian fatphil? I'm not aware of any who hang out on this channel.
[23:22:30] <AzumaHazuki> is runaway being runaway again? :v
[23:22:47] <Runaway1956> For 'Zumi - https://vimeo.com
[23:22:48] <systemd> ^ 03Viva Frei - Rittenhouse trial should be over immediately..mp4
[23:22:57] <AzumaHazuki> i don't know, between his vaccine idiocy and his constant long-distance digital fellatio of Rittenhouse--holy shit, the timing
[23:23:08] <AzumaHazuki> you cannot make that up
[23:23:25] <Runaway1956> Timing your ass, you mention the devil, the devil likely responds
[23:23:42] <Runaway1956> And, yes, I'm obvously your devil, or you wouldn't be thinking of me all the time.
[23:24:20] * Runaway1956 dances around shouting gibberish in front of a bonfire for 'Zumi's benefit
[23:27:24] <FatPhil> you've consistently squirted out libertardian dogwhistles. If you squirt like a libertardian, that's enough for me to consider you a libertardian.
[23:28:11] <Runaway1956> *yawn* In some respects, Libertarians are closer to our founding fathers than the prostitutes in the Big Two Parties
[23:28:36] <Runaway1956> But, I'm not exactly a Libertarian, Phil the Phat.
[23:29:23] <FatPhil> It's either that or you're really inconsistent. Which given how you started your contribution to this thread is *entirely* believable.
[23:30:12] <Runaway1956> Well, there is some possibility that I'm inconsistent, but there is a greater possibility that you don't understand me.
[23:30:48] <Runaway1956> Try to imagine that people are more complicated than can be distilled into one or five or fifty words
[23:32:00] <Runaway1956> Well, most people are more complicated, but then, there are progressives who are easily encapsulated in just a few words.
[23:32:27] <FatPhil> It's entirely possible you have lead people to not understand you... https://www.flamewarriorsguide.com
[23:32:38] <FatPhil> led, obviously
[23:33:04] <Runaway1956> well, some led lights might help
[23:33:43] <chromas> unless they're the shitty ones they put into the street lights where the phosphor coating falls off and they turn blue
[23:34:23] <Runaway1956> Sounds like a Stevie Nicks song - blue lamp?
[23:37:09] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[23:37:11] <systemd> ^ 03HEAVY METAL-Stevie Nicks-Blue Lamp
[23:38:12] <Runaway1956> Or, we could go Blue Oysters . . .
[23:41:12] <FatPhil> That Stevie Nicks song was one of the best songs in the soundtrack of Heavy Metal. I have one of the intros to one of the songs as my ringtone presently.
[23:42:23] <AzumaHazuki> so i take it the "be civil" rule is out the window now? =P
[23:43:23] <Runaway1956> Huh? Who is being uncivil?
[23:43:47] <chromas> Someone's got a grudge against Stevie Nicks
[23:44:06] <Runaway1956> Probably because Stevie is prettier than she is?
[23:46:12] <Runaway1956> Oh, I get it - she thinks FatPhil was being uncivil when he called me a Libertarian.
[23:46:22] <Runaway1956> But, I forgive Phil for his mistake.
[23:46:35] <FatPhil> Technically, I added the silent 'd'.
[23:47:06] <FatPhil> The same way I often add the silent 'c' to the phrase "rap music".
[23:47:22] <FatPhil> This is my current ringtone: https://www.youtube.com
[23:47:25] <systemd> ^ 03Don Felder - Heavy Metal (Takin' A Ride)
[23:48:46] <Runaway1956> If I had a ringtone, I might choose that one.
[23:49:48] <Runaway1956> Wasn't that one clip from Vanishing Point?
[23:50:21] <Runaway1956> 1:47
[23:59:27] <chromas> Are ringtones still a thing?