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[00:01:35] <FatPhil> LG is trying to make our life difficult. The manuals for the new washing machine come in 16 different languages, all eastern european, none of them english. And the models seem to be region-specific - I literally don't think an english manual exists.
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[00:23:56] <Deucalion> User manual or service manual?
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[00:26:02] <Bytram> takyon++ Thanks for adding the iFixit link! What a hoot!
[00:26:02] <Bender> karma - takyon: 47
[00:26:17] <Bytram> Deucalion: Hi!
[00:26:22] <Bytram> !uid
[00:26:36] <Bytram> =?
[00:26:43] <Bytram> =(
[00:27:50] <Bytram> Deucalion: could you please restart the bot which reports the UID of the newest-added user?
[00:27:59] <Bytram> !uid
[00:28:09] <Runaway1956> https://i.pinimg.com
[00:28:30] <Deucalion> It's a washing machine.... dirty clothes go in the big round door.... soap powder and conditioner (optional) go in the little drawer... turn dial or press button to select desired cycle... or just randomly select one... the clothes will come out clean regardless
[00:28:42] <Deucalion> Bytram, Hi o/
[00:29:03] <Bytram> Deucalion: howdy!
[00:29:11] <Bytram> Deucalion++
[00:29:11] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 41
[00:29:44] <Deucalion> Bytram, do you per chance recall which bot used to respond to !uid ?
[00:30:05] <Deucalion> Bender
[00:30:07] <Runaway1956> !help
[00:30:07] <Bender> documentation for jsonbot can be found at http://jsonbot.org
[00:30:11] <Bender> see !list for loaded plugins and "!help plugin" for help on the plugin.
[00:30:24] <Runaway1956> !help plugin
[00:30:24] <Bender> can't find help on plugin
[00:30:43] <Runaway1956> Hmmmmm . . . Bender got the Covids?
[00:30:52] <Bytram> yep, that seems to be the one!
[00:31:15] <Bytram> maybe it was a metavid?
[00:31:38] <Deucalion> I will restart Bender, not promising anything other than that
[00:32:31] <Runaway1956> !IUD = improvised underwater device
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[00:33:43] <Deucalion> Bender Started, PID 2365
[00:34:20] <Runaway1956> !UID
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[00:34:27] <Bytram> !uid
[00:34:41] <Deucalion> The thing takes a while.... it's a monster not of my creation
[00:34:48] <Deucalion> !help
[00:34:48] <Bender> documentation for jsonbot can be found at http://jsonbot.org
[00:34:52] <Bender> see !list for loaded plugins and "!help plugin" for help on the plugin.
[00:34:55] <Teckla> My washing machine has a big *square* door, you insensitive clod! ;)
[00:35:12] <Runaway1956> Square doors for people with square heads?
[00:35:24] <Runaway1956> Oh my, was that insensitive?
[00:35:25] <Teckla> With rounded corners! They should probably pay Apple royalties for those rounded corners.
[00:35:40] <Bytram> Runaway1956: s/square/block/
[00:36:03] <Teckla> My head is too big. I have a lot of trouble finding hats that are big enough. :(
[00:36:07] <Runaway1956> My dad always said haircus were 2 buck - $.50 a side.
[00:36:09] <Teckla> So I guess you could legitimately call me a blockhead.
[00:36:34] <Deucalion> !uid
[00:36:39] <Deucalion> !arse
[00:36:44] <Deucalion> !help
[00:36:44] <Bender> documentation for jsonbot can be found at http://jsonbot.org
[00:36:48] <Bender> see !list for loaded plugins and "!help plugin" for help on the plugin.
[00:36:49] <Deucalion> hmmmm
[00:36:55] <Deucalion> !list
[00:36:55] <Bender> available plugins: admin, cfg, chan, chatlog, core, fleet, grabquote, ignore, irc, karma, koffie, lod, more, plug, relay, soylentrss, sylnt, todo, twitter, uidchecker, urlinfo, user
[00:37:19] <Runaway1956> !uidchecker
[00:37:45] <Bytram> !uidplaid
[00:37:47] <Runaway1956> ho-hum - maybe a nap would help
[00:38:06] <Runaway1956> !uidpaisley
[00:38:22] <Bytram> lol
[00:39:21] <Bytram> Deucalion: what server does bender run on?
[00:39:29] <Deucalion> Bery
[00:39:58] <Bytram> kthx
[00:40:29] <Deucalion> sylnt 2365 4.9 1.6 965640 67160 pts/0 Sl 00:33 0:20 python2.7 /home/sylnt/bin/jsb-fleet
[00:41:09] <Deucalion> It's a python bot
[00:42:30] * Bytram is looking at its Linode page -- nothing sticks out as being obviously out of whack
[00:45:23] <Bytram> Deucalion++ thanks for looking into it for me
[00:45:23] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 42
[00:45:39] <Bytram> =g "42"
[00:45:40] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org(film) - 42 (film) - Wikipedia
[00:45:58] <Bytram> =g "42" universe
[00:45:59] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org(number) - 42 (number) - Wikipedia
[00:46:26] * Teckla uses a Digital Ocean Linux VPS.
[00:46:39] <Teckla> Just wish they had a data center physically closer to me.
[00:47:49] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org(number)#The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy
[00:47:50] <systemd> ^ 0342 (number) - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org(number) )
[00:48:16] <Bytram> Teckla: planning to visit?
[00:48:31] <Teckla> I read THGTTG and... didn't really like it. :(
[00:48:42] <Bytram> one last try?
[00:48:47] <Bytram> !uid
[00:48:49] <Teckla> Bytram: Nope, but less hops/a lower ping would be nice.
[00:49:08] * Teckla is looking forward to The Wheel of Time TV series.
[00:49:17] <Teckla> Read all the books as they came out. Great series, if a bit long. :)
[00:54:27] <Bytram> Teckla: I gave up after ~10 books when I realized that after reading ~1,000 pages and ... nothing much really happened! Well except for some braid-tugging, that is.
[00:54:49] <Teckla> Bytram: lol! Yes, indeed, a whole lot of braid tugging was happening!
[00:54:59] <Bytram> The Great Hunt. maybe?
[00:55:22] <Teckla> Nynaeve must have been really really *really* fucking hot for Lan to put up with her.
[00:55:58] <Teckla> Don't recall the individual book names anymore. Read them so very long ago. Like late 1990s.
[01:01:52] <Bytram> Introduce yet another ancillary character. Describe him/her in excruciating detail -- hair, height, girth, hair, jewelry, fashion (using at leas 400-500 words to do so). Have some gala they attend (also describe in *detail*), and within 10-20 pages they're killed off, or go away on a trip, or something.. never to be referred to again. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
[01:05:13] <Bytram> Had a delated start getting to "The Wheel of Time", but there were only 2 or 3 others how, then. After that, I read them when they cam out. (Until I got bored and stopped; see earlier)
[01:05:53] <Bytram> =w wheel of time
[01:05:54] <systemd> The Wheel of Time is a series of high fantasy novels by American author Robert Jordan, with Brandon Sanderson as a co-author for the final three novels - https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:06:12] <chromas> well it's a wheel. of course it repeats
[01:06:26] <chromas> no twists; only turns
[01:07:01] <Bytram> correction; first boob was "The Eye of the World"
[01:07:17] <chromas> !grab Bytram
[01:07:17] <Bender> Added quote 1057
[01:11:56] <Bytram> Looks like I gave up at https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:11:56] <systemd> ^ 03Winter's Heart - Wikipedia
[01:13:51] <Bytram> boost yo're word-count by addin'n superflu-us puct'uation
[01:14:06] <Bytram> :/
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[01:36:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Synthesis Process Paves Way for More Efficient Lasers, LEDs - https://sylnt.us
[01:52:46] <Runaway1956> "There's a piece of cake in the fridge we saved for you"
[01:52:57] <Runaway1956> I shoulda known - pumpkin cake.
[02:28:23] <chromas> Don't like pumpkin?
[02:30:59] * chromas bans Runaway1956 from the pumpkin cheesecake brownies
[02:34:12] <Bytram> !uid
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[06:27:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Welcome to November -- Site Update and Contest! - https://sylnt.us
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[08:55:19] <SoyCow6554> Hey, I heard New York city smells like shit. Is it because racist white supremacist anti-vaxxers cruelly murdered baby seals?
[08:55:36] <SoyCow6554> That's what the Jews are saying.
[08:56:04] <SoyCow6554> But then again, Jews have been wrong before. Like everytime they put their bisuit-lips up to the microphones.
[08:56:24] <SoyCow6554> biscuit-lips^
[08:57:37] <SoyCow6554> Why are more and more people starting to dislike Jews?
[08:58:05] <SoyCow6554> White supremacy, probably. We need more censorship!
[08:58:40] <SoyCow6554> *reads logs*
[08:59:16] <SoyCow6554> You administer any medical procedure against my will, I'm going to put a fucking slug up your ass.
[09:00:01] <SoyCow6554> And I know you Jews are nasty enough to do it, since you invented an imaginary holocaust, then proceeded to do the same thing against Goys when Israel fell out of favor.
[09:00:59] <SoyCow6554> You goddamn Jews don't realize how many people rightfully hate you.
[09:01:14] <SoyCow6554> Fall into line, you cocksuckers.
[09:02:32] <SoyCow6554> Or we're gonna change YOUR mind with 120VAC, 400 Hz
[09:03:48] <SoyCow6554> Shit is getting real.
[09:04:01] <janrinok> only your shit
[09:04:24] <SoyCow6554> And nobody likes Jews. Not even other Jews. They'll run like cowards if it's not THEIR deli they're working.
[09:05:15] <SoyCow6554> What's it like to hate free speech?
[09:05:50] <SoyCow6554> Come on, faggot. Tell me, what is it like to hate free speech?
[09:06:59] <SoyCow6554> I'm waiting. What is it like to hate free speech, Jew faggots?
[09:07:26] <SoyCow6554> I wouldn't expect guilt to be a Jewish characteristic,
[09:08:12] <SoyCow6554> And I wouldn't expect Jews to understand that if they respected free speech, maybe they'd get less of the bad stuff.
[09:08:29] <SoyCow6554> But respect is not a Jewish trait.
[09:10:29] <SoyCow6554> To all you Judeo-Globalists out there, get your shitbags to fall into line, fast.
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[11:26:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Inside the Controversial US Gunshot-Detection Firm - https://sylnt.us
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[13:24:47] <Runaway1956> https://openspeedtest.com
[13:24:48] <systemd> ^ 03How to increase your Internet speed? - OpenSpeedTest.com
[13:24:56] <Runaway1956> That's a cute application guys
[13:25:18] <Runaway1956> it sets up a server on your own machine, then does an "internet speed test"
[13:25:35] <Runaway1956> My speed is limited to my hard drive's read/write speed
[13:28:59] <Runaway1956> However, you can set the server up on one machine, and test your own network speed from other machines on the network
[13:29:42] <Runaway1956> 200 Mb download, 97 Mb upload doesn't seem really good
[13:32:25] <Runaway1956> I guess it does demonstrate that my network doesn't slow my internet at all - I get less than 1/10th of that internet speed
[13:41:00] <Bytram> https://www.speedtest.net
[13:41:00] <systemd> ^ 03Speedtest by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test
[13:43:01] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I've got Ookla bookmarked, and what's more, I have a command line Ookla installed on my computer - just type speedtest and you're connected
[13:43:51] <Runaway1956> I just went to Dear Wife's computer, and ran the speedtest on this computer - her network speed really sucks
[13:44:02] <Runaway1956> Guess I need to re-examine my network
[13:44:49] <Runaway1956> I thought all my ethernet was Cat5, maybe I have an old cable in the mix somewhere?
[13:45:12] <Bytram> >>> Ping ms: 70; Download Mbps: 8.63; Upload Mbps: 3.91
[13:45:12] <Bytram> Ping ms: 70; Download Mbps: 8.63; Upload Mbps: 3.91
[13:45:12] <Bytram> Ping ms: 70; Download Mbps: 8.63; Upload Mbps: 3.91 Ping ms: 70; Download Mbps: 8.63; Upload Mbps: 3.91
[13:45:23] <Bytram> Ooops! Sry!
[13:45:29] <Runaway1956> lol
[13:46:16] <Bytram> and now I gtg... laters!
[13:46:54] <Runaway1956> AHHHH-HA!! Quick check reveals that my Cat5 cable has been hijacked, and I'm actually connected with an old black cable of questionable parentage
[13:47:00] <Runaway1956> See ya later
[14:06:22] <progo> bastard cable
[14:58:39] <progo> Anyone seen an essy on Medium recently? I don't know if this is per-author or site-wide, but now if you enable Javascript on the site, it immediately deselects any text you select. Apparently they are trying to prevent you from quoting the page.
[14:58:56] <progo> Apparently Medium doesn't want you TALKING about things people write on Medium
[14:59:00] <progo> *mind blown
[15:10:12] <Runaway1956> Rittenhouse trial supposed to start today - and CNN runs an article painting the child molesters, burglars, and rioters as heros
[15:11:04] <Runaway1956> I've seen that and similar, progo - sometimes a popup warns you that everything is copyrighted, and you can't copy it
[15:14:21] <progo> Runaway1956: Malcolm X was from the future, and he predicted that kind of thing decades ago. https://static.noagendasocial.com
[15:15:19] <progo> in my desktop setup, Ctrl-A Ctrl-C still works on Medium (without yet disabling javascript). any specific selection action is deselected before you can write to the clipboard
[15:16:12] <Runaway1956> https://www.cnsnews.com
[15:16:12] <systemd> ^ 03‘Let’s Go Brandon’ Song Reaches No. 1 Spot on Apple Music Charts
[15:16:14] <progo> actually Malcolm X wasn't prediction, just describing what he saw at the time
[15:16:37] <progo> *wasn't predicting
[15:17:12] <Runaway1956> The Ministry of Truth will have it all sorted out soon.
[15:22:39] <Teckla> Bytram: haha, yeah. They should make another version of the WoT books, after some aggressive editing.
[15:22:53] <Teckla> Could probably cut the books in half.
[15:23:10] <Teckla> I still <3 them, though; they were the first "high fantasy" I read, and I really got into the world.
[15:26:13] <FatPhil> that reminds me - I've forgotten which annoying site persuaded me to add teh following to my userContent.css, because it refused to let me copy text:
[15:26:16] <FatPhil> user-select: text !important;
[15:26:19] <FatPhil> -moz-user-select: text !important;
[15:26:31] <progo> I can't believe Minitrue allowed Disney to make a television series about "The Mysterious Benedict Society" novel series, with its political and philosophical commentary on societ living in a permanent psychologically-induced emergency. And they released the TV series in 2021
[15:26:42] <FatPhil> now I've restarted teh browser, I want to test whether that works
[15:31:08] <Teckla> FatPhil: I hate it when web sites do that.
[15:31:27] <Teckla> I also hate it when web sites somehow disable pinch-to-zoom.
[15:31:46] <Teckla> I'm not even sure *how* they do that, or *why* in the world they would do that.
[15:35:06] <progo> Teckla: disabling "pinch to zoom" is almost standard practice at this point. a bunch of HTML page templates copied into larger projects have it
[15:35:20] <progo> look up HTML templates with "viewport" meta tag, I think
[15:35:49] <FatPhil> the other thing I've seen sites do to stop selecting text is have a transparent layer containing nothing. I use "Dismiss the Overlay" for those.
[15:35:59] <progo> I don't agree with it, but I think the actual intent was to prevent any text or pictures from spilling past the right edge and force horizontal scrolling
[15:36:02] <progo> sure doesn't help ui
[15:36:08] <progo> if you can't make the font bigger
[15:36:46] <progo> one of my all time story page pet peeves is long narrative text AND video -- fucking AUTOPLAY VIDEO -- on the same page
[15:37:25] <progo> I'm there for the text. I can scan it faster. stop your resource wasting video trash
[15:38:21] <progo> Skeptoid does it right: long audio story attached to a page, NOT auto-play, doesn't load automatically. long narrative text -- all the same words -- on the same page
[15:38:40] <FatPhil> a picture says a thousand words, but takes a million bytes to transmit.
[15:39:08] <FatPhil> g/f still browses primarily with w3m
[15:39:47] <progo> she must not read social network feeds, or else she'll be constantly encountering blank pages that are stories-as-executable-code
[15:40:44] <progo> (actually skeptoid does it wrong. javascript popup: "won't you please subscribe to our spam email list?")
[15:41:55] <progo> FatPhil: I'm really impressed that someone lives like that :^)
[15:59:17] <Teckla> Autoplay video is the worst. :(
[15:59:45] <Teckla> Every time a web site abuses me by autoplaying video, I add it to my JavaScript blacklist, which solves the problem nicely.
[16:08:59] <FatPhil> woop woop! Estonia back at #1 again! >cough<
[16:16:52] <FatPhil> Our curves have been heading steeply upwards for about 4 months now. Yet only last week did the politicians suggest "maybe we should shut the pubs at 11, and make masks in public indoor spaces compulsory?", a rule that kicks in today.
[16:18:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Last Chunk Removed in Largest Wreck Removal in U.S. History - https://sylnt.us - a-minor-miscalculation
[16:18:37] <progo> is that a Musk project?
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[17:55:02] <FatPhil> google implies that cali hasn't dropped daylight saving time yet.
[17:55:26] <FatPhil> trying to work out when to call someone there...
[17:57:51] <progo> I use timeanddate.com for time zone info
[17:58:09] <progo> it has simple calculators to make it easy to think about scheduling problems like that
[18:09:37] <FatPhil> whatever google interface my phone browser defaults to flings back an answer to "time in california", but I know that software was behind that answer. And I know how much software can be trusted.
[18:13:14] <progo> FatPhil: how about location databases for converting geocoordinates to and from place names? Most of the damned weather sites I've ever tried INSIST that north american place names have only a first name (municipality or population center name) and a last name (province/state). they don't account for neighborhoods in municipal cities in counties in states…
[18:13:38] <progo> "Springfield, USA". yeah. which one?
[18:14:02] <progo> *nation, I meant, they don't even name the state sometimes
[18:15:57] <progo> GetTogether.community (open source not-Meetup.com) refuses to let you write USA addresses the way the Post Office does. Any of Broadway streets in New York City is rewritten as nothing more specific than "Broadway, New York City, NY"
[18:16:03] * progo explodes
[18:19:16] <FatPhil> =g xkcd the other one
[18:19:17] <systemd> https://xkcd.com - No, The Other One - xkcd
[18:20:16] <FatPhil> Main Street, Springfield.
[18:20:31] <progo> one thing the US Post Office has done for us is name every navigation address hierarchically and unambiguously.
[18:21:00] <progo> and they have an API for converting your chicken scratch into one of their named addresses too
[18:21:58] <progo> "New England, ND" is particularly funny on that map, for some reason
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[18:26:40] <t3> I hope that one day, whoever came up with i18n will t6d to d3h v2y s4y
[18:28:11] <t3> seriously, we have excellent input devices that make abbreviations totally unnecessary, let alone abbreviations that don't even make a modicum of sense
[18:29:46] <progo> t3++
[18:29:46] <Bender> karma - t3: 9
[18:30:02] <progo> (I think my response was ironic or something now that I think of it.)
[18:32:55] <FatPhil> tattooed to death? wow, that's a long drawn-out procedure.
[18:34:23] <FatPhil> thrilled? throbbed?
[18:35:18] <t3> yeah, they can get the whole unicode codespace tattooed
[18:36:37] <progo> can we outlaw colored unicode glyphs too?
[18:36:57] <progo> I try to remove the required fonts for those form my desktop and they keep creeping back in inside web apps and browsers
[18:37:19] <progo> the only practical effect they have is turning list items into spammy ads. "look at me! I have color. read me first!"
[18:48:07] <FatPhil> we'd better start inventing some more emojis, so the tattooing can continue for ever...
[18:48:58] <progo> plenty of 32-bit code point numbers left
[18:49:03] <progo> for now
[19:14:15] <FatPhil> the loonicode consortium can come up with a 48-bit or 64-bit set, if need be.
[19:14:54] <FatPhil> of course, with the combining codes, you can get lots of variation.
[19:18:12] <FatPhil> every hair colour times every skin colour by every gender holding hands with every hair colour times every skin colour times every gender. that's a lot of tattoos.
[19:19:41] <progo> I don't recognize skin color variations of ideograms to be valid characters
[19:19:42] <progo> :^)
[19:19:46] <progo> I'm opting out
[19:28:51] <FatPhil> how much should a 4G phone connection with data be in Cali?
[19:29:28] <FatPhil> my cranky neighbour has just told me her AT&T contract costs her $120/m
[19:29:58] <FatPhil> she's a little old lady, and I suspect she's being ripped off.
[19:48:11] <t3> that sounds about right for ATT, she's probably been sold a way overprovisioned plan
[19:49:32] <t3> something about "free" iphone every two years interferes heavily with budgetary calculations
[19:56:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Revised Budget Reconciliation Package Reduces NASA Infrastructure Funds - https://sylnt.us
[20:02:17] <FatPhil> she was saying that the phone was fully paid for. but she doesn't always make 100% sense.
[20:02:49] <progo> compared to other options that should be available in California, that's a rip-off I'm sure at $120/month
[20:03:11] <progo> they all have terrible customer service. you can't pay more to get real customer service.
[20:03:58] <progo> they try their best to prevent you from price comparing. "but what will my actual bill be, after all your taxes and fake taxes?" "We can't do that." "look up a bill in this zip code for this plan and tell me the total." "no."
[20:05:02] <progo> https://ting.com $25/month first 5GB of data "fast", then "slow" forever after that until the next month
[20:05:04] <systemd> ^ 03Ting Mobile: Choose a smarter mobile plan
[20:05:16] <progo> (this is an ad example, not a personal endorsement)
[20:06:54] <FatPhil> we have similar contracts on our phones here, it's a sane way to do it - I almost never go over my limit, and slow is about 1/4 speed, so not a total disaster
[20:06:55] <progo> the "slow" service after your quota is fast enough for email and ordering a taxi
[20:07:53] <FatPhil> g/f's is insane - it's a hard limit. the bizarre thing is that she's got the local contract, I've got a foreign one and am permanently roaming, yet mine's the better contract.
[20:08:17] <progo> that doesn't surprise me
[20:08:24] <progo> where are you FatPhil, vaguely?
[20:10:45] <Teckla> FatPhil: In Minnesota, I pay $120/month for 3 phones with lots of high speed data each (like 10 GiB). Plus taxes and fees, it comes out to just over $140/month.
[20:11:02] <Teckla> A single phone would be closer to $60/month.
[20:26:17] <inz> I pay 20 euros / month for my unlimited 300 Mbit/s plan
[20:27:25] <inz> I could get two euros off by "changing" operators (I'd get a winback offer)
[20:29:28] <Teckla> Nice.
[20:39:12] <FatPhil> progo: Estonia, but my phone contract's Finnish. There's basically be surcharge-free international roaming in the baltics for a decade.
[20:39:37] <progo> gotcha
[20:40:41] <FatPhil> inz: what carrier are you? my Telia's only a touch cheaper, but much more limited.
[20:41:11] <inz> FP, elisa; mut I think telia's intl service is better
[20:41:29] <inz> I don't travel, so I don't care :)
[20:41:37] <FatPhil> They changed my contract under my feet, which pissed me off a bit. Used to average ~13e/m. Now I average ~17
[20:43:03] <inz> Yeah, I changed from Moi's 6€ plan, when they decided that they're not getting enough money, and raised the plan to 9 euros (by adding 2 GB of data, which would normally cost the same 3)
[20:43:19] <FatPhil> elisa was our internet in the office, which they span off, but there's still an Elisa network here, so roaming woulnd't be a problem. Might be worth looking into switching next time I'm in .fi. Or just wrangling something better off Telia.
[20:43:25] <inz> It now costs 8 e / month to just par one's number.
[20:44:06] <inz> The offers are much better when changing, but just initiating the change should be enough
[20:46:00] <FatPhil> I don't trust the "please change to us, gain moneyz!" spam calls, I know they'll pull the rug out from under our feet after a year or so, they always do.
[20:48:18] <Teckla> Can you folks across the pond get Google Fi? Google has been pushing that hard lately (in the form of really terrible YouTube advertisements).
[20:50:30] <chromas> Ads on youtube?
[20:53:11] <Teckla> chromas: When I'm using my iPad :(
[20:53:25] <Teckla> I should probably get a Pi-hole.
[20:53:25] <chromas> But I did see a crappy Google ad the other day, in the form of randomly placed text digitally pasted onto the ground in a baseball game on tv
[20:53:49] <chromas> it said "Google Something" (don't remember the product) in just a plain font
[20:54:18] <chromas> I wonder if iProducts have the equivalent of YouTube Vanced
[20:54:53] <chromas> You'd have to sideload. Dunno if that still requires jailbreaking
[20:55:59] <Teckla> Apple rules their iDevice App Store with an iron fist, and it really sucks.
[20:56:33] <Teckla> gcc? Nope. clang? Nope. Java? Nope. Develop web pages on-device? Nope.
[20:56:51] <Teckla> It just... sucks.
[20:57:08] <chromas> Why aren't you using XCode, you heathen?
[20:58:18] <Teckla> I don't have a Mac (and don't want one).
[20:59:20] <Teckla> The base model MacBook Air looks kind of interesting...
[21:01:13] <Teckla> But the upgrades are rapey expensive...
[21:08:22] <chromas> Who doesn't want their wallet molested now and again? That's why we have the fed
[21:09:14] * Teckla chuckles.
[21:17:10] <inz> The Finnish tax bear eats half my munnies before they even reach my wallet.
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[21:20:57] <inz> ok, I'm exaggerating, only a third
[21:40:23] <chromas> same here, but fortunately, what they don't take is inflated away
[22:10:01] <FatPhil> =submit https://www.wsj.com
[22:10:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03WSJ News Exclusive | Apple Wants iPhones to Detect Car Crashes, Auto-Dial 911" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:15:40] <chromas> Another copycat feature
[22:15:51] <chromas> Windows already detects crashes and auto-dials Microsoft
[23:06:13] <FatPhil> just seen the best ever film review: "brother, brother, brother, brother, grunty action, bra-strap". That's it. The whole review.
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