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[00:00:04] <kyonko`|2> n = number
[00:00:19] <kyonko`|2> i really need to find the orgins of all this
[00:00:25] <progo> it says "4Kn" means "4 kilobyte sectors native"
[00:00:43] <kyonko`|2> pascal is a unit of measure for pressure
[00:01:07] <kyonko`|2> joules is for energy
[00:01:25] <progo> newtons measures force. so does "pounds", sorta. if you assume you mean gravitational attraction of an object inside Earth standard gravity
[00:01:37] <kyonko`|2> i can't feel it
[00:02:04] <kyonko`|2> if 4096 is being wasted by the OS then whats the point
[00:02:29] <kyonko`|2> at least I knew 512 was going to be used
[00:02:42] <progo> most filesystems put small files in the DIRECTORY list of a folder (for some small value of "small file")
[00:02:46] <progo> that's not a big concern
[00:03:12] <progo> 4k sectors have less overhead of square nanometers of disk space than 512 byte sectors
[00:03:18] <progo> because of 1 header instead of 8 headers
[00:03:32] <kyonko`|2> 4K is good for our epoc
[00:03:43] <kyonko`|2> if its going to be HD video, the 4K is good
[00:03:53] <progo> 4k sectors and tiny files inline in the directory is a good medium for almost any use today
[00:04:06] <kyonko`|2> people use the cloud
[00:04:14] <kyonko`|2> if you have internet where you are
[00:04:32] <kyonko`|2> I just don't feel at home with chromeos
[00:05:49] <kyonko`|2> I just don't like this whole cloud thing
[00:05:56] <progo> don't get me started
[00:06:25] <kyonko`|2> the best way to find bad sectors in a new drive is to fill it up
[00:07:52] <kyonko`|2> and now i forgot everything i learned last night
[00:08:20] <kyonko`|2> you really really need to know everything about storage technology if you want to live cloud free
[00:08:53] <kyonko`|2> or just see how far you can get computing free
[00:09:12] <progo> really?
[00:09:26] <progo> Windows is bad, but it's not THAT bad that you need to be an expert in storage tech to use it
[00:09:35] <progo> you do have to know how to shut off all the cloud shit
[00:10:38] <kyonko`|2> windows 10 is unusable
[00:10:44] <kyonko`|2> i'm on windows 7 pro right now
[00:10:47] <progo> I knew we passed a milestone when my programmer/hacker friend told me files were "synced" helpfully from her desktop to her phone without conscious consent given
[00:11:04] <progo> that syncing happened like 5+ years ago
[00:11:06] <kyonko`|2> I don't like that
[00:11:18] <kyonko`|2> I am a google user since 2009
[00:11:29] <kyonko`|2> and facebook used from 2015
[00:12:10] <kyonko`|2> only programming worth a damn is posix or (free)dos for very primitive systems
[00:12:16] <kyonko`|2> fat32 dos
[00:12:56] <kyonko`|2> the fat dies if the fat table gets corrupt
[00:13:00] <progo> I'll see your FreeDOS and raise you an 8-bit smartphone hobby project https://mega65.org
[00:13:00] <systemd> ^ 03MEGA65 - (MOST PROBABLY) THE BEST COMPUTER
[00:13:10] <kyonko`|2> smartphone at 8-bits?
[00:13:46] <progo> the platform is a desktop or phone computer based on the never-went-to-market 8-bit Commodore 65 computer platform. centered on a 6502-class CPU
[00:13:57] <kyonko`|2> and how is a self made electronic phone going to connect to the proprietary PSTN
[00:14:00] <progo> in the phone build, it uses a 3G or 4G vending machine modem to connect to the world
[00:14:12] <progo> over RS-232 probably
[00:14:21] <kyonko`|2> that is bizarre
[00:14:24] <progo> also fun
[00:14:26] <kyonko`|2> vending machine modems?????
[00:14:30] <progo> I've only seen video presentations about it
[00:14:46] <kyonko`|2> i think I only once used a debit card to buy from a vending machine back when I could drink soda
[00:14:52] <progo> the point of the project is that all the userland software is so simple dumb and small that you can AUDIT it
[00:14:54] <kyonko`|2> its not something I like to do (often)
[00:15:36] <kyonko`|2> its a baby money amount on a debit card, really absurd
[00:15:51] <kyonko`|2> a debit card is more like paying for travel and boarding
[00:16:36] <kyonko`|2> I don't trust anything, especially other people
[00:16:59] <kyonko`|2> I recall they had aquafina at the vending machine 5 years ago
[00:17:11] <kyonko`|2> now I go for the water, but I can still feed a dollar bill
[00:17:40] <kyonko`|2> the goal is to become cash free and see if that stops human crime
[00:18:01] <kyonko`|2> you'll have to remove the god gene from human brains for that to happen, hence gmo men
[00:18:12] * progo awaits AI crime
[00:18:27] <kyonko`|2> no AI crime, just synthetic nature
[00:18:34] <kyonko`|2> eat each other, gonzo dinos
[00:20:29] <kyonko`|2> japan has herbivore men
[01:21:11] <Bytram> takyon++ thanks for the ready-to-publish story sub!
[01:21:11] <Bender> karma - takyon: 44
[01:26:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Alder Lake CPUs Launch November 4th, with Up to 8 Big and 8 Small Cores - https://sylnt.us
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[01:38:53] <SoyCow6019> LOL @ Goyim Defense league
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[01:39:30] <SoyCow6019> They're doing good work, except that the leader is an obvious Jew and their organization in general is some combination of honeypot/limited hangout
[01:39:40] <Bytram> .kick SoyCow6019 Bye!
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[01:39:47] <Bytram> Bye!
[02:24:30] <kyonko`|2> how the fuck do you get 8tb from 8gb in CHS maximum of 1023,255,63 even with 4096 bit sectors
[02:24:43] <kyonko`|2> i guess i'll have to prove it bare metal
[02:25:11] <progo> kyonko`|2: you don't
[02:25:26] <progo> CHS addressing doesn't exist except for the first few GB of a drive on SATA or some interface like SATA
[02:25:40] <kyonko`|2> thats the thing
[02:25:49] <kyonko`|2> no one ever did multibooting
[02:25:49] <progo> the current wire protocol just talked about sector numbers as a plain integer. a big one that supports a lot more than 8TB
[02:26:01] <progo> *just talks about
[02:26:32] <progo> and you shouldn't use MS-DOS disk labels. use GPT instead.
[02:26:49] <kyonko`|2> you ever seen the shit modern cameras record to?
[02:26:56] <kyonko`|2> its all gigabyte sized fat32 volumes
[02:27:05] <kyonko`|2> gigabyte size HD mp4 files
[02:27:17] <kyonko`|2> if it didn't matter then, it sure matters now
[02:27:24] <kyonko`|2> unless you want to be a smart phone retard
[02:27:35] <kyonko`|2> I like HD video even if its huge
[02:27:58] <kyonko`|2> and i've seen amazing compression done to it, but I don't think my poor little ass can
[02:28:34] <kyonko`|2> I used to dump my sd cards onto a 2TB usb disk but windows 10 wiped it out
[02:29:12] <kyonko`|2> so for a while after the windows 10 incident i just started filling up sd cards and storing them in jars
[02:29:44] <kyonko`|2> these cameras will keep on recording untill the maximum fat32 filesized is reached
[02:30:20] <kyonko`|2> takes for ever to transfer, and you need a monster powerful modern rig to edit
[02:30:30] <kyonko`|2> unless of course, you want to be a smart phone retard
[02:30:53] <progo> my camcorder records up to 1080p60 on FAT32 in ~4GB chunks
[02:30:58] <progo> starts a new file when the file gets too big
[02:30:59] <kyonko`|2> exactly
[02:31:05] <progo> you can concatenate them together on a real computer
[02:31:13] <progo> I've done it; no frames lost
[02:31:31] <kyonko`|2> normal people are going to have a really hard time understanding whats going on
[02:31:31] <progo> it's janky but it works
[02:31:35] <progo> yes
[02:31:42] <kyonko`|2> and these damn cameras are as fragile as spinning hard drives
[02:32:07] <kyonko`|2> i also have an early 2inch spinning disk camcorder for the sheer masochism
[02:32:08] <progo> it's usually bad to drop a camera with any advanced optics that doesn't hapeen to be a $1400 applephone
[02:32:49] <kyonko`|2> started looking into back up tapes
[02:32:57] <kyonko`|2> learned of something i didn't know existed, the ultrium tape
[02:33:01] <kyonko`|2> scsi only
[02:33:05] <kyonko`|2> needs pci adaptor
[02:33:13] <kyonko`|2> looks good on a network
[02:34:04] <progo> first bare 2.5" IDE disk i bought was to upgrade my thinkpad laptop/tablet monster…
[02:34:10] <progo> found out at home it's a 1.5" or 2" disk :^(
[02:34:19] <progo> I bought a USB box for the new disk
[02:34:30] <progo> I mean the host computer's old disk was smaller than 2.5"
[02:34:59] <kyonko`|2> sometimes I don't know what I'm looking at when I see the original MFM-RLL drives
[02:35:04] <kyonko`|2> are these... twice as tall?
[02:35:13] <kyonko`|2> way before my time
[02:35:36] <kyonko`|2> the winchester disks
[02:35:48] <kyonko`|2> but they are actually shugart disks
[02:37:00] <kyonko`|2> I don't own any sort of extreme tech from the 1990's
[02:37:07] <kyonko`|2> or maybe I do
[02:37:23] <kyonko`|2> I don't consider apple consumer hardware extreme
[02:39:30] <kyonko`|2> the floppy disk sony mavicas were extreme
[02:41:04] <kyonko`|2> you can get into the terabyte range on CHS if you go around in circles and count the times you do
[02:41:36] <kyonko`|2> reminds me of how nuts I felt when I first booted linux in the late 2000's with usb hdd's and dvd-rw's and started seeing scsi stuff
[02:41:52] <kyonko`|2> i thought scsi was some fat isa or pci card
[02:41:56] <kyonko`|2> with some fat cable
[02:45:38] <kyonko`|2> with proper termination
[02:45:54] <kyonko`|2> even for e-z mac hardware
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[03:35:41] <kyonko`|2> well fuck me sideways and call me billy, are the bios mfg'ers assuming that a PC will only boot into DOS
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[04:11:20] <SoyCow7256> =submit here-we-go-again https://www.reuters.com
[04:11:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Rise in Human Bird Flu Cases in China Shows Risk of Fast-changing Variants: Experts" (41p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[04:36:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FDA Advisory Board Recommends Approving Pfizer COVID-19 for Children 5 to 11 - https://sylnt.us - worth-a-shot
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[04:56:48] <SoyCow6019> Hey Jew scum, howya doin'?
[04:57:01] <SoyCow6019> How those vaccination profits doin'?
[04:57:35] <SoyCow6019> I hope that those vaccination complications are fake news,
[04:58:07] <SoyCow6019> surely an institution run by Jews wouldn't want to profit from disabilities and stuff, right?
[04:59:18] <SoyCow6019> I mean, if you could impose vaccines on everybody, they wouldn't be harmful, right?
[04:59:33] <SoyCow6019> That would just get a bunch of people to hate you, rightfully so.
[05:00:20] <SoyCow6019> Like, you could just bribe and blackmail your way into profitability by compromising politicians, am I wrong?
[05:01:08] <kyonko`|2> my heart is enlarged
[05:01:14] <SoyCow6019> I have faith that "vaccine complications" are fake news, because I haven't heard of them yet.
[05:01:52] <SoyCow6019> Either all the Bernie and Hillary voters who are suffering from them are keeping quiet, or
[05:02:00] <SoyCow6019> they just don't exist.
[05:02:56] <SoyCow6019> UNLESS: There is a shadow war
[05:03:28] <SoyCow6019> With the assassination of Herman Cain, and in response, the assassination of Colin Powell.
[05:04:43] <SoyCow6019> Such a false pandemic would be the perfect identity to wage shadow war
[05:04:57] <SoyCow6019> blaming the "pandemic" on mysteriously apropos deaths.
[05:05:21] <kyonko`|2> nobody died in my town, except those who were on the edge
[05:06:13] <SoyCow6019> kyonko, you're probably some Brooklynite Jew faggot
[05:06:42] <SoyCow6019> Who was murdered by a rabbi, and whose mind became loaded in the Chabad-Lubavitch AI project.
[05:07:12] <kyonko`|2> we have those people in mexico
[05:07:15] <SoyCow6019> Tell me, what do you know about Judeo-Globalism and Chabad-Lubavich?
[05:07:18] <kyonko`|2> I don't know how they survive
[05:07:36] <kyonko`|2> they really don't like to spend money
[05:07:41] <SoyCow6019> I'll tell you know. By being greedy Jews.
[05:08:01] <SoyCow6019> And hating everybody who builds good societies and isn't an inbred miserable weasel.
[05:08:08] <SoyCow6019> That's how. Capische?
[05:11:08] <SoyCow6019> If they enlarge my heart against my will, I'll enlarge their brain with a shotgun slug.
[05:11:36] <kyonko`|2> your heart will enlarge on its own due to age, check your dna
[05:11:38] <SoyCow6019> Because forced vaccination and confiscation of arms are the hills that anti-Judeo-Globalists will die on.
[05:11:49] <kyonko`|2> humans also have their teeth go bad with age, oral hygiene be damned
[05:12:31] <SoyCow6019> Everybody knows.
[05:13:00] <SoyCow6019> Now man the fuck up and start telling your fellow Jews to reverse course.
[05:14:20] <SoyCow6019> Even China sees Judeo-Globalism as a biological weapon, and is taking steps to mitigate it.
[05:19:10] <SoyCow6019> If we only had more "good" Jews to counteract the efforts of the bad, there wouldn't be anti-Semitism.
[05:19:13] <chromas> the vax is Trump's fault. That's why it's weird the lefties are pro-covid-vax
[05:19:27] <chromas> they want me to get the Trump jab?
[05:19:42] <chromas> also, only jews are allowed to shittalk jews
[05:19:43] <SoyCow6019> GoyimTV is a good start, but only if because the Zionist element of the FBI doesn't agree with the Bolshevik element.
[05:20:19] <SoyCow6019> And no, not only Jews can insult the Jews.
[05:20:36] <chromas> yeah 'cause goyim get kicked from the main channels :)
[05:20:39] * chromas prepares the boot
[05:20:41] <SoyCow6019> FAG
[05:20:44] <SoyCow6019> BITCH
[05:20:46] <SoyCow6019> KIKE
[05:20:47] <SoyCow6019> RAT
[05:20:50] <SoyCow6019> SCUM
[05:20:58] <SoyCow6019> MUTIZEH B PEH
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[05:35:47] <chromas> "shock-absorbing, geometrical technology"
[05:35:53] <chromas> Marketing! Marketing everywhere!
[05:36:05] <kyonko`|2> HDD geometry
[05:36:06] <chromas> even in muh boots
[05:36:15] <kyonko`|2> what kind of boots?
[05:36:27] <chromas> ones with geometrical technology, apparently
[05:36:33] <kyonko`|2> honeycombs
[05:37:06] <chromas> could be. one pair I had before had an extruded plastic grid in the heel
[05:37:32] <kyonko`|2> its "int 13h extensions" by microsoft & ibm
[05:38:09] <chromas> is that better or worse than 6" extensions by EF?
[05:39:43] <kyonko`|2> fuck man I'm totally lost with all this retro shit
[05:41:15] <chromas> "Made in Bangladesh". Nice to see some other countries getting some sweatshop love
[05:41:22] <kyonko`|2> http://faculty.cs.niu.edu
[05:41:27] <kyonko`|2> I have bangladesh boots too
[05:41:33] <kyonko`|2> used to have the same model made in china
[05:41:49] <kyonko`|2> but those got ruined with salicylic acid foot powder and I take a fuckton of daily meds
[05:44:04] <kyonko`|2> 1996 - Phoenix turned over their BIOS protocol called BIOS Enhanced Disk Drive Specification (EDD) to InterNational Committee on Information Technology Standards (INCITS) This protocol allows for a LBA count of 2^64 (9.44 ZB) Most ATA disks still had a 2^28 count (138GB)
[05:44:24] <kyonko`|2> where the fuck was a supposed to learn this?????
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[05:45:48] <SoyCow6019> FUCk JEW SCUM
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[05:52:10] <SoyCow7256> For ya pleasure https://github.com
[05:52:11] <systemd> ^ 03GitHub - zackradisic/aussieplusplus: Programming language from down under
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[05:54:29] <chromas> see now that's a shitpost
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[05:57:03] <Wimpy_Jew_faggots> OY VEY! TIS ANUDDAH SHOAH!
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[06:06:46] <Jew_Rat_Scum> I wonder why Twitter is allowing attacks on the ADL?
[06:07:09] <Jew_Rat_Scum> Eh. Couldn't be because of social improvement or anything like that.
[06:07:29] <Jew_Rat_Scum> Just Jews causing problems in society, like they always do.
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[06:09:54] <AzumaHazuki> so, uh, reg'd users only fuckin' when?
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[06:11:12] <SoyCow4729> Jew Rat Shitbags, hate America. And since you can no longer hide behind big tech and cancel-culture, we should declare you enemies of society and mass-murderers.
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[06:21:20] <chromas> hm, enemies of mass-murderers?
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[06:36:34] <SoyCow1632> You Jewish scum ratbastards. You deserve to be eliminated from the face of the Earth.
[06:36:43] <SoyCow1632> Hahah, fuck Jew ratbastards.
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[06:37:23] <SoyCow7585> You Jewish scum ratbastards. You deserve to be eliminated from the face of the Earth.
[06:37:25] <SoyCow7585> HAHAHAHAHA
[06:37:28] <SoyCow7585> FUKK JEWS
[06:37:39] <FatPhil> .op
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[06:37:43] <SoyCow7585> HAHAHAHA
[06:37:44] <SoyCow7585> .op
[06:37:48] <SoyCow7585> WUT
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[06:38:20] <FatPhil> not very techy, that one
[06:39:15] <FatPhil> mornin' all
[06:39:26] <chromas> =g'day cunt
[06:39:26] * systemd faithfully penetrates a wagon of stale crackers with cunt
[06:39:47] <AzumaHazuki> FatPhil, what is it going to take to get this place reg-only?
[06:40:10] <FatPhil> everyone moving to #nicechat, and having that reg-only
[06:40:57] <FatPhil> There will always be drunk people throwing up and pissing in the lobby, that's just 'civilisation'.
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[06:44:22] <SoyCow0719> Fuck Jew faggots. Antifa and BLM should be shot dead in their tracks, and their deaths blamed on the Brooklynite Jews who goaded them to fighting the Goyim, in the first place. FUCK JEWS!
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[06:48:02] <George_Soros> As a White person, we should destroy Goy society! Now let's continue with our medical experiments until the people we say hate us that we hate are all dead! Fellow Jews?
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[06:49:02] <SoyCow7764> took you faggots long enough. FUCK JEWS!
[06:49:06] <chromas> Although, an awful lot of Jewish 'journalists' have done the "as a white person" bit
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[06:50:36] <chromas> Maybe we could set the channel +m, that way we don't have to hear goyspeak or zumi :)
[06:50:48] <FatPhil> which is +m?
[06:50:55] <chromas> moderated
[06:51:05] <chromas> need +v or higher to speak
[06:51:38] <chromas> temporarily, of course, until totally-not-zumi-or-ari takes a break
[06:52:29] <FatPhil> if you enable it, I won't override that decision
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[06:54:28] <chromas> we just need some sort of jewtrap
[06:54:29] <SoyCow6302> Fuck Jew Scum. And fuck you limpdick chickenshit Aussies who bent over for Chinese Judeo-Globalism against your own country. EVIL SHITBAGS to the extreme.
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[06:55:53] <FatPhil> if I .deop, I can't .op again, unless I +v myself first
[06:56:06] <chromas> /cs op #soylent
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[06:56:23] <chromas> the dot commands are just a shortcut to pming chanserv
[06:56:33] <FatPhil> ah, OK, ta!
[06:56:38] <chromas> also /cs is a client-side shortcut to /msg chanserv
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[06:59:02] <chromas> Did I ever mention how sexy these MT3 keycaps feel? It's almost like typing on cat noses
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[07:08:20] <FatPhil> thought as much
[07:08:51] <FatPhil> tighten that plastic bag..., tighten that grip...
[07:10:43] <chromas> y'know I was gonna do the same thing, but I'm all out of bags
[07:10:48] <chromas> and alcohols
[07:11:50] * FatPhil dcc's some barrel aged impy stout to chromas
[07:12:16] <chromas> y'know I didn't know until recently but we have a bunch of local beers
[07:12:54] <chromas> I can't remember the names of any though
[07:13:32] <FatPhil> Big Sky Moose Drool Brown Ale
[07:13:46] <chromas> Bale Breaker's oe
[07:13:48] <chromas> one
[07:14:08] <FatPhil> Looks like I've only ever had one
[07:14:46] <chromas> oh Big Sky's not local to me
[07:14:47] -!- mode/#soylent [+v AzumaHazuki] by FatPhil
[07:15:00] <FatPhil> depends how local is local
[07:15:36] <FatPhil> I consider latvian stuff to be local, but not lithuanian or Finnish
[07:15:37] <chromas> oh wait, MT's Montana, so it's kinda close I guess
[07:16:04] <chromas> I was thinking within the same state, or at least a couple towns over from my local shithole
[07:16:37] <FatPhil> =g area of estonia
[07:16:52] <FatPhil> bots--
[07:16:55] <chromas> haha, +m rueeens your results
[07:17:09] <FatPhil> ah, the bots are devoiced?
[07:17:36] <chromas> I move that we should start up a Soylent fund to sponsor beers to from around the world to be transmitted to FatPhil's location
[07:18:12] <chromas> I dunno what kind of rules there are about mailing alcohols to other countries
[07:18:26] <FatPhil> I can think of no better suggestion!
[07:18:46] <FatPhil> USPS don't accept booze, alas, nor do many couriers.
[07:19:11] <FatPhil> However, you are permitted to ship "decorative glasswear", and I promise I'll drink it straight from the bottle.
[07:19:28] <FatPhil> I once got a 25kg delivery of "yeast samples" from belgium.
[07:20:00] <chromas> Alas, I miss the goode olde dayes when you could mail children
[07:20:16] <FatPhil> on the pony express, or whatever, for about 2c
[07:24:56] <FatPhil> yikes - bring back /Time Cube/, that's what I say: https://cms.zerohedge.com
[07:27:35] <FatPhil> Ha! 06/06/06 https://patentscope.wipo.int
[07:28:00] <FatPhil> sooon, ms change their name to Matrixsoft
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[07:38:01] <FatPhil> can't we just have auto-voice for everyone with a staff cloak?
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[07:43:06] <chromas> So I can 'bate to mine coins?
[07:43:38] -!- mode/#soylent [-m #soylent] by FatPhil
[07:45:24] <AzumaHazuki> that's a solution i suppose. maybe permanent +m for anyone not registered?
[07:45:43] <FatPhil> m is a channel mode, v's are the user modes
[07:45:53] <chromas> Just b& Russian bots
[07:46:30] <aristarchus> Not comments still?
[07:47:00] <aristarchus> Oh, you cheeky binders!
[07:47:18] <FatPhil> .deop
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[07:53:02] <FatPhil> .voice Imogen
[07:53:47] <FatPhil> bots--
[07:53:47] <Bender> karma - bots: -66
[07:57:49] <FatPhil> but let's be positive...
[07:57:52] <FatPhil> hotglue++
[07:57:52] <Bender> karma - hotglue: 1
[07:59:28] <FatPhil> yeah, you all thought I was anti-gun, but no, I'm a good guy with a glue-gun here to save the day.
[08:00:04] <chromas> you got a 30-squirt magazine in that thing?
[08:00:12] <FatPhil> not at my age
[08:00:43] <FatPhil> boom tish
[08:00:50] <chromas> come again?
[08:00:56] <FatPhil> not at my age
[08:04:03] <aristarchus> I am starting to think that FatPhil is a sort of Brit ex-pat verision of the Runaway, which is wierd, since you can't get much Runaways outside of Arkansas.
[08:04:55] <FatPhil> Do not attempt to start to think, or depression may occur.
[08:05:20] <AzumaHazuki> he's not like Runaway, ari, come on
[08:05:23] <aristarchus> I may have to forgive FatPhil, since he referenced Moose Drool. [21:39] == Cannot send to channel: #soylent
[08:05:31] <AzumaHazuki> how can you even make that comparison, really?
[08:06:12] <aristarchus> Comments in Runaway's journal. Siding with the pro-shooter. Seemed strange, for a Brit.
[08:07:13] <FatPhil> My opinion on the Kyle incident is based entirely on the range of independently corroborated visual evidence that I've seen.
[08:07:48] <FatPhil> Even the views of the incident presented by leftists persuade me that it was self-defence.
[08:08:04] <aristarchus> Yes, that may be the problem. The kid went there, looking for trouble, and found it. In America, that is provocation.
[08:08:15] <AzumaHazuki> i'm of two minds on this. it was self-defense in the moment, but he also went looking for trouble
[08:08:43] <AzumaHazuki> why is anyone lionizing that gormless little puke?
[08:08:47] <FatPhil> the only way he's going down is if there's a legal technicality, not because there is a moral wrong.
[08:09:01] <FatPhil> he's a bit naive, but that's not a crime
[08:09:01] <aristarchus> Yes, of course, that is exactly what the right-wing gun-nuts are going for with this.
[08:09:59] <aristarchus> There is culpable negligence, culpable ignorance, and deliberate provoking of a self-defence situation.
[08:10:15] <FatPhil> the people who gave him trouble were also looking for trouble - and they started it. If that's the damning predicate, then they should all go down.
[08:10:59] <aristarchus> They were rioting in their own damn city, he had no dog in the fight, other than Runaway's and Trump's.
[08:11:36] <chromas> shirley you mean peacefully protesting
[08:12:16] <aristarchus> Protesting. Sometimes when cops kill innocents, you have to push the barriers.
[08:12:46] <aristarchus> Let me introduce you to Critical Race Theory!
[08:13:11] <FatPhil> he thought he was in a militia, that's all. unfortunately for the rioters, because he'd reached 17, and was male, he was.
[08:13:48] <chromas> I prefer critical race conditions
[08:14:04] <FatPhil> but critical sections prevent race conditions
[08:14:26] <aristarchus> International law does not allow for combatants below the international age of majority, which is 18. Child soldier, or just murdering teenager>
[08:14:43] <chromas> international
[08:15:28] <aristarchus> Yes, international laws of armed conflict have universal jurisdiction, including in Podunk, USA.
[08:15:57] <aristarchus> Otherwise, it was murder, simpliciter.
[08:16:56] <AzumaHazuki> i for one am fine with them all going down. fuck 'em. put them in the same cell, all armed
[08:17:30] <FatPhil> Of course, aristarchus is also spouting bullshit, 17-year-olds are not child soldiers in international law.
[08:18:04] <FatPhil> "the internation age of majority" - where do you get such bizarre concepts?
[08:18:22] <FatPhil> You're making stuff up again, ari?
[08:18:23] <aristarchus> No, FatPhil, you are wrong. The US admits soldiers of that age, but they do not put them into combat, to avoid violating international law.
[08:19:04] <aristarchus> FatPhil, once again, you are making stuff up. Do you have any idea who you are talking to?
[08:19:11] <FatPhil> bullshit: "The Parties to the conflict shall take all feasible measures in order that children who have not attained the age of fifteen years do not take a direct part in hostilities and, in particular, they shall refrain from recruiting them into their armed forces."
[08:19:45] <FatPhil> I'm talking to someone who's living in his own little world in his mother's basement.
[08:19:59] <FatPhil> And who went senile centuries ago.
[08:20:05] <chromas> hm, I was thinking he was a physically handicapped boomer
[08:20:16] <chromas> Typing one-handed
[08:20:53] <FatPhil> kill me before I get that far gone
[08:22:36] <FatPhil> Contradict me, Ari, I've got plenty more quotes from international law that support the number 15 rather than your arse-sourced 18.
[08:23:17] <AzumaHazuki> isn't this going off on a tangent? legal doesn't necessarily mean moral. morally, that little pissant Kyle should have had the gun stuck up his ass and fired
[08:23:44] <AzumaHazuki> but legally? self-defense. he was looking for trouble, he found it, he shot it, and he'll have a couple of impatient ghosts waiting for him at Hell's gate
[08:24:12] <chromas> whose morals tho?
[08:24:23] <aristarchus> But no one who has not achieved the age of majority can consent to combatant status. You should know better, you limey bastard! (British child soldiers were used in, well, wait, they were not.
[08:25:10] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[08:25:12] <systemd> ^ 03The Book of Mormon: Making Things Up Again
[08:25:39] <aristarchus> Recognition of a universal age limit of 18 by the international community has still not been achieved. The ICRC and its partners in the Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement are pressing for such a limit through further development of both international and national law.
[08:26:06] <chromas> well, good, you learned something today
[08:26:13] <aristarchus> https://www.icrc.org
[08:26:15] <systemd> ^ 03Children protected under international humanitarian law
[08:27:09] <FatPhil> which says "Additional Protocol also requires military recruitment of 15 to 18 year olds to prioritize the oldest."
[08:27:22] <aristarchus> Non-compliance with an international standard is not defense of a recognized war crime.
[08:27:25] <FatPhil> Fuck me - Ari's armed! And shot himself in the foot
[08:27:28] <FatPhil> both barrels!
[08:27:43] <chromas> it was the bumpstock
[08:28:17] <FatPhil> Ari's mouth is indeed a bumpstock. I agree, it should be banned.
[08:28:51] <aristarchus> I am coming after you with child soldiers, FatPhil, Ukranians! They do not care what you think, they will shoot your rioting ass just like Kyle Rittenhauser of the Third Reich.
[08:31:03] <chromas> Jeez dude, I know you're typing with one hand but you don't have to let me know when you're about to come
[08:35:32] <FatPhil> https://www.flamewarriorsguide.com
[08:39:50] <aristarchus> Child soldiers are the provenance of Nazis, and African warlords. Are you sure you want to put Kyle Rittenhauser in that category?
[08:40:28] <AzumaHazuki> he kinda put himself in the Nazi category
[08:40:59] <aristarchus> Constantly amazed how FatPhil keeps coming to the aid of rabid American Nazi Runaway.
[08:40:59] <AzumaHazuki> meh, civilization's ending in a couple of decades anyway. not worth wasting energy on this. i'm going to try and sleep
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[08:44:25] <aristarchus> This is why SN is not nearly so interestting as it used to be. All the damn Nazi sympathizers.
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[08:45:41] <FatPhil> I'm amazed at how unable you are to either understand or remember context. Presumably it's something to do with your atrophied brain. I was actually countering Runaway in that thread. But that's unimportant, don't let it stand in the way of your inane babbling.
[08:45:54] <chromas> hm, both say something dumb then leave before they can be refuted
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[08:46:02] <chromas> oh wait
[08:46:54] <FatPhil> i think that's because he'd received a bit to much cold hard refutation already. it was wearing him out.
[08:47:26] <chromas> probably wore himself out too. that's why he...got off
[08:47:30] * chromas dawns shades
[08:48:20] <FatPhil> I just wish he wouldn't involve so much smearing poop on himself as part of his self-pleasuring.
[08:48:52] <chromas> Maybe he just like self-defecating humor
[08:49:22] <FatPhil> for shits and giggles
[08:49:34] <chromas> jiggles
[08:49:49] <chromas> when you can't quite get that clinger to fall off
[08:55:45] <chromas> Hm, new storage options? https://www.thingiverse.com
[08:55:46] <systemd> ^ 03TARDIS with drawers by theintrospective
[08:56:22] <chromas> https://www.thingiverse.com
[08:56:23] <systemd> ^ 03Prop Gun | Revolver - Single Action by DeSteiner
[08:56:38] <chromas> Any DPs around?
[08:59:36] <FatPhil> gawd, don't let the g/f see that tardis, or she'll want it.
[09:00:33] <FatPhil> what we both really want is a dalek bottle opener where the front bit isn't a connected, and is 2 electrodes. When they contact a bottle cap, the circuit is completed, and the "exterminate" sounds.
[09:00:34] <inz> I almost asked a friend who likes to print stuff to make me one. Then I realized that I really don't need another gimmick on my desk
[09:01:43] <inz> Hmm, I could use a RPi case...
[09:03:25] <chromas> it's got drawers though
[09:04:01] <inz> Don't have any zeroes, they might fit in a drawer like that
[09:04:26] <chromas> import into Blender and modify until bigger
[09:05:47] <inz> But if I order too big items, I might have to pay for them at some point :)
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[09:14:08] <c0lo> =submit illegal-for-whales-to-vomit https://www.newsweek.com
[09:14:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "0317 Pounds of Illegal Sperm Whale Vomit Seized by Police in Sting Operation" (43p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[09:24:42] <SoyCow3195> https://www.youtube.com
[09:24:43] <systemd> ^ 03Kunio (Alex) vs. Twin Dragons - No commentary
[09:24:50] <SoyCow3195> NICE!
[09:25:06] <SoyCow3195> That is a good
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[09:27:51] <c0lo> That's quite interesting https://www.themoscowtimes.com
[09:27:54] <systemd> ^ 03Ukraine Destroys Pro-Russian Artillery in Its First Use of Turkish Drones - The Moscow Times
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[09:33:03] <SoyCow3195> nigga
[09:33:08] <SoyCow3195> fuck you nigga
[09:33:34] <SoyCow3195> Imma dump a fat shit on yo ass
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[09:43:55] <c0lo> =submit stop-thinking-with-your-dick https://www.euronews.com
[09:43:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Is the Air We're Breathing Reducing Sperm Counts? Scientists Think So" (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[10:05:15] <FatPhil> Has c0lo been googling for "sperm"? better than gargling with sperm, I guess.
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[10:17:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Is the Air We're Breathing Reducing Sperm Counts? Scientists Think So - https://sylnt.us - junk-shot-in-my-junk-shot
[13:07:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quad-Core Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Launched at $15 - https://sylnt.us
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[14:29:55] <Bytram> chromas++ for the stories!
[14:29:55] <Bender> karma - chromas: 402
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[15:59:01] <Runaway1956> #weather Texarkana
[15:59:02] <MrPlow> Texarkana College, 2500 North Robison Rd, Texarkana, TX 75599, USA - Today: "Possible light rain in the morning." 59/50F, Humidity: 68%, Precip: 46%, Wind ~16mph. Fri: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 61/43F, Humidity: 62%, Precip: 2%, Wind ~15mph. Sat: "Clear throughout the day." 70/42F, Humidity: 67%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~6mph.
[15:59:22] <Runaway1956> It seems chilly after a long hot summer
[16:02:44] <progo> this winter is going to be cold in North America
[16:16:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Now Rolling Out Windows 11 to More Eligible Devices - https://sylnt.us - I'm-so-sorry
[19:17:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Neutrino Result Heralds New Chapter in Physics - https://sylnt.us
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[22:07:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Wants to Buy SLS Rockets at Half Price, Fly Them Into the 2050s - https://sylnt.us - why-buy-one-when-you-can-buy-two-at-twice-the-price?
[22:36:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FDA Advisory Board Recommends Approving Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine for Children 5 to 11 - https://sylnt.us - worth-a-shot
[23:29:25] <AmyMalik> merp
[23:46:48] <Bytram> Burp!
[23:47:00] <Bytram> ;)