#soylent | Logs for 2021-10-27
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[02:57:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FCC Kicks China Telecom Americas Out of US, Cites Chinese Government Control - https://sylnt.us - unanimous-decision
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[02:59:27] <Fuck_Globohomo> Suck soros, fuck Blackrock
[02:59:35] <Fuck_Globohomo> fuck Blackstone, fuck Touchstone Pictures
[02:59:50] <Fuck_Globohomo> Fuck unit 8200, fuck Mossad, fuck the ADL and SPLC
[03:00:06] <Fuck_Globohomo> Fuck san francisco, fuck L.A., fuck New York City
[03:00:37] <Fuck_Globohomo> Fuck pronouns, fuck Antifa, fuck BLM
[03:01:10] <Fuck_Globohomo> Fuck Jews, Catholics, Jesuits, and Masons
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[03:05:40] * AzumaHazuki wonders how eth functions without any pronouns whatsoever
[03:05:56] <AzumaHazuki> ...i realize there is at least one unsupported assumption in there :)
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[05:26:19] <chromas> audioguy++ even though he's not here
[05:26:19] <Bender> karma - audioguy: 20
[05:52:49] <bacteria> satan++
[05:52:49] <Bender> karma - satan: 26
[05:52:56] <bacteria> coffee++
[05:52:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5593
[05:56:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Needs to Tame Toilet Trouble Before Weekend Launch - https://sylnt.us - ur-ine-big-trouble-because-there-is-more-than-a-passing-interest
[06:01:18] <chromas> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[06:01:18] <systemd> ^ 03Five points for anger, one for a ‘like’: How Facebook’s formula fostered rage and misinformation
[06:04:32] <kyonko`|2> ...
[06:04:40] <kyonko`|2> i never hit the angry face
[06:04:48] <kyonko`|2> remember the thankful flower?
[06:04:51] <kyonko`|2> looked like the icq flower icon
[06:06:27] <chromas> I don't remember it on fb
[06:07:53] <kyonko`|2> you don't use fb
[06:08:14] <kyonko`|2> i gave in to fb in 2015 after much meditation
[06:08:31] <kyonko`|2> i wonder why so many smart and unique people are stuck in it
[06:08:42] <kyonko`|2> besides the "they live" sheep
[06:09:08] <kyonko`|2> tried to log in to facebook from linux mint years ago and it would always crash the browser and the kernel
[06:09:22] <kyonko`|2> now oom prevents that
[06:09:27] <chromas> sounds like linux sucked then
[06:09:39] <kyonko`|2> it took a long time for it to get oom
[06:09:42] <kyonko`|2> and zfs
[06:09:46] <kyonko`|2> and zfs is not linus approved
[06:10:09] <kyonko`|2> and oom in bsd can make it really useless, unless you do not use a web browser, or have a strict web browsing diet
[06:10:16] <kyonko`|2> such as HOWTO 1990's html
[07:26:45] <FatPhil> .op
[07:26:45] -!- mode/#soylent [+o FatPhil] by Imogen
[07:26:51] -!- mode/#soylent [+b Fuck*!*@*] by FatPhil
[07:26:56] <FatPhil> .deop
[07:26:56] -!- mode/#soylent [-o FatPhil] by Imogen
[07:27:55] <FatPhil> let's play gwhack-a-mole
[07:28:41] <boru> Could set +r for a while, or +q on $~a
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[08:36:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This Device Could Usher in GPS-Free Navigation - https://sylnt.us - knowing-where-you're-at
[08:37:01] <boru> Who wrote that click-baity article title?
[08:50:02] <FatPhil> so-called "journalists", complain to their employers
[08:50:20] <FatPhil> Aren't you glad we preserved it, so that you're pre-warned to avoid it?
[08:52:06] <boru> We need a specialisation of Betteridge's Law for clickbaity headlines. Phil's Law: if the article title is more than 50% information sparse, don't bother reading it.
[08:56:40] <FatPhil> I remember working on GPS-free navigation back in the mid-late 90s. Just before GPS chips became compulsory in all phones sold in certain privacy-loving countries, which of course caused their introduction into all handsets.
[08:58:39] <FatPhil> it was going to be spun out of a consultancy I was working from, but with the introduction of GPS everywhere, it kinda became pointless. It was cell-tower based (on phones, obvs).
[08:59:28] <FatPhil> GPS chips cost 5c, why would you not just use GPS, it's proven tech?
[09:04:35] <boru> So good that everyone wants to build their own system.
[09:06:10] <boru> On the aerospace side of things, I've worked on some similar ideas for onboard location, both for space vehicles and aviation.
[09:07:16] <boru> I also have an idea for a paper which hasn't been tried before. I'm sure I'll have the time for it one day...
[09:28:56] <FatPhil> I think everyone wants independence from the US DoD.
[09:30:56] <boru> Yeah, can't say I blame them, but at the cost of worsening the Kessler effect.
[09:33:08] <FatPhil> but I thought exponential growth was good!
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[11:15:26] <chromas> schweet! got ssh running on the local wondows box, so i can sshfs it now. all the drives appear as directories
[11:15:32] <chromas> much better than shitty ftps
[11:16:16] <chromas> especially shitty curlftps, which is a shitty shitfest of slow
[11:26:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA is Planning an Interstellar Mission that Could Last More than 100 Years - https://sylnt.us
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[13:42:49] <Bytram> audioguy++
[13:42:49] <Bender> karma - audioguy: 21
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[13:42:54] <Bytram> audioguy:
[13:42:58] <Bytram> audioguy++
[13:42:58] <Bender> karma - audioguy: 22
[13:43:04] <Bytram> audioguy++
[13:43:04] <Bender> karma - audioguy: 23
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[14:26:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Breakdown in Communication: Mitochondria of Diabetic Patients Can’t Keep Time - https://sylnt.us
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[14:58:06] * Teckla wonders if GPS free (or, perhaps more accurately, satellite free) navigation is possible.
[14:58:19] <FatPhil> inz: is there a go live date for Olkiluoto 3 yet? I've seen Sept 21, March 22, and June 22 in different sources. I guess the furthest away is *always* most likely to be the closest one to reality.
[14:58:48] <Teckla> That is, navigation that's as good as current GPS systems.
[14:58:55] <Teckla> Turn by turn directions for cars, etc.
[14:58:58] <inz> FatPhil, the announced delays keep getting shorter
[14:59:42] <inz> FatPhil, maybe it is a dichotomy paradox in action
[14:59:55] <FatPhil> Aha, but does the sequence converge?
[15:05:50] <inz> Maybe :)
[15:06:30] <inz> The latest announcement is from august, saying that it would start producing electricity in commercial capacity in june '22
[15:06:41] <Bytram> chromas++ thanks for the story
[15:06:42] <Bender> karma - chromas: 401
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[15:50:45] <Teckla> Any recommendations for "off the shelf" Discord bots, designed to be used by individuals on personal machines, that bridge Discord and IRC?
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[16:31:06] <t3> bitlbee has a discord plugin if you just want a bridge?
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[17:26:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Patent Troll Backs Off - https://sylnt.us - patent-trolling-entities
[17:30:37] <Teckla> t3: Thanks; I'll look into that
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[18:30:07] <Teckla> LOL @ https://twitter.com
[18:45:50] <FatPhil> if it's a tweet, and it's 140 chars or less, perhaps just paste the 140 chars or less? Twitter serves me nothing apart from complaints about my browser.
[18:46:24] <progo> this week I have seen "upgrade to a modern browser" too many times
[18:46:34] <progo> once was on an 8 year old phone
[18:46:57] <progo> get with the modern world! an 8 year old computer whose vendor refuses to update the software? lol. you cannot use our javascript app.
[18:47:02] <FatPhil> The "Resource" that is "Uniquely Identified" by that URI ain't no such thing. It breaks the web.
[18:47:59] <FatPhil> My phone's 12 years old. One of the first ever "smart" phones. But too stupid to understand 90% of the modern web. Maybe the modern web is stupid, just sayin'?
[18:48:19] <progo> Fastmail's web app told me that choosing a theme (inside their app) is not supported on Pale Moon because it's outdated.
[18:48:51] <progo> I didn't look into it but I think that was a name problem not a "capability detection" problem
[18:49:05] <progo> I'm not aware of any web things pale moon can't do (slowly)
[18:50:08] <progo> the ONLY "modern" web browser I can install on my Ubuntu Raspbery Pi 4, which is not packaged by Google or by a team infected by Google influence is Ungoogled Chromium…
[18:50:24] <progo> current Ungoogled Chromium build for this platform is broken. crashes immediately
[18:50:37] <progo> I've been running the build script on an older release since last night
[18:50:48] <progo> if I can't find a version that works, I don't have a no-Google browser for Raspberry PI, at all
[18:51:17] <progo> Brave -- no build offered; Vivaldi -- arm 32-bit didn't work on my arm64 OS after installing arm32 libraries
[18:51:29] <progo> Firefox -- owned and paid for by Google, full of Google shit
[18:51:38] <progo> Waterfox (Firefox minus Google): no Linux arm64 build yet
[18:51:46] <progo> fuck the web
[18:52:48] <progo> pale moon kinda works on linux arm64, but it seizes up for 8 seconds at a time, pretty often. (then resumes where it left off)
[18:53:05] * progo takes a drink, calms down
[18:54:28] <Bytram> FatPhil: I prefer the web remain UN-intelligent. There's plenty too much information gathering going on, I'd rather it NOT get [more] intelligent!
[19:03:38] <Teckla> FatPhil: It's a video.
[19:45:22] <chromas> notches--
[19:45:22] <Bender> karma - notches: -1
[19:47:41] <inz> I would have a simple solution for notches; remove the useless front camera.
[19:48:46] <chromas> But then how do I get faceid and send selfies to the nsa?
[19:53:38] <progo> inz: remember when all "smart phones" had tiny cameras that performed better than 35mm disposable cameras?… and they didn't protrude from the flat back of the phone?
[19:54:22] <progo> I wouldn't be surprised if the me-too-but-better situation with phone cameras KEEPS growing the lenses and camera modules so that the phone is L shaped
[20:05:16] <inz> I remember when phones had cameras that took pictures where I didn't look ugly.
[20:05:29] <inz> 6 pixels can't represent ugly
[20:06:51] <inz> I also remember a digital camera that had a 3,5" floppy drive for storage
[20:12:01] <FatPhil> Teckla: youtube-dl coped. Rankin's dead. Just sayin'
[20:13:23] <Bytram> #weather boston
[20:13:25] <MrPlow> Boston City Hall, 1 Congress St, Boston, MA 02201, USA - Today: "Rain in the morning and afternoon." 52/47F, Humidity: 84%, Precip: 100%, Wind ~18mph. Thu: "Overcast throughout the day." 52/46F, Humidity: 72%, Precip: 16%, Wind ~11mph. Fri: "Overcast throughout the day." 52/51F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 17%, Wind ~10mph.
[20:13:58] <FatPhil> inz: yeah, but in the group photos you have to share a pixel with a stranger sometimes - that's unhygenic.
[20:14:01] <Bytram> #weather new york
[20:14:03] <MrPlow> New York City Hall, 260 Broadway, New York, NY 10000, USA - Today: "Light rain in the morning." 62/49F, Humidity: 73%, Precip: 92%, Wind ~7mph. Thu: "Clear throughout the day." 60/51F, Humidity: 63%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~7mph. Fri: "Rain in the evening and overnight." 56/54F, Humidity: 74%, Precip: 91%, Wind ~14mph.
[20:14:52] <Bytram> FatPhil++ =)
[20:14:52] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 153
[20:15:03] <inz> Don't they put roofs on city halls in the states?
[20:15:17] <Bytram> #weather washington, dc
[20:15:17] <MrPlow> Plenty of hot air with frequent showers of bullshit.
[20:15:38] <inz> FP, yeah, especially in these covid times, that'd be a huge no-no
[20:15:39] <Bytram> #weather baltimore, md
[20:15:40] <MrPlow> Business and Government Historic District, East Lombard St, Baltimore, MD, USA - Today: "Clear throughout the day." 69/51F, Humidity: 72%, Precip: 13%, Wind ~12mph. Thu: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 63/55F, Humidity: 75%, Precip: 6%, Wind ~7mph. Fri: "Heavy rain throughout the day." 60/57F, Humidity: 89%, Precip: 100%, Wind ~16mph.
[20:15:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Missing Hiker Ignored Calls from Rescuers Because it was an Unknown Number - https://sylnt.us - send-a-txt-message?
[20:16:25] <Bytram> laters
[20:24:45] <chromas> Maybe they should quit being unknown numbers
[20:30:32] <FatPhil> I know all numbers, and can prove it - give me a number!
[20:37:57] <chromas> Five and three-quarters-eighths-sixteenths-and-a-half
[20:45:59] <chromas> point 2
[22:07:05] <kyonko`|2> thats numberwang
[22:17:10] <FatPhil> I thought you'd go for pi and i e-ths, c'est la vie
[22:19:42] <chromas> e-ths not here, man
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[22:50:40] <SoyCow6019> Oh look, now the Jews are saying the Vaccine's Trump's fault!
[22:50:46] <SoyCow6019> HAHAHAHAHAH...Jesus
[22:50:58] <SoyCow6019> [Soros Intensifies]
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[23:09:16] <kyonko`|2> https://en.wikipedia.org
[23:09:17] <systemd> ^ 03Advanced Format - Wikipedia
[23:09:25] <kyonko`|2> i didn't know they also dabbled in new math
[23:55:06] <progo> "Advanced Format" means just "big sectors"? and it's some kind of trademark? that's kinda derpy
[23:55:49] <progo> I think "Soros Intensifies" needs to be a T-shirt, with a cartoon image of something
[23:56:31] <progo> https://en.wikipedia.org ADVANCED 4 KILONEWTON FORMAT!
[23:56:32] <systemd> ^ 03Advanced Format - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[23:56:35] <progo> :^)
[23:59:35] <kyonko`|2> 4096
[23:59:56] <kyonko`|2> i really need to make sure its true that IT IS BEING WASTED
[23:59:57] <progo> I want a 4 kilonewton disk, dammit