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[03:03:42] <tedious> chromas: Did you watch it?
[03:04:49] <tedious> I'm guessing nothing came of it or people would be freaking out.
[03:23:44] <FatPhil> it's a partisan issue - someone's bound to freak out about it.
[03:30:26] <tedious> Well that video is junk.
[03:30:40] <tedious> It cuts out multiple times in the first 15 minutes.
[03:47:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX CEO Elon Musk Explains Why Blue Origin’s Starship Lawsuit Makes no Sense - https://sylnt.us - bezos-lightyear-to-infinity-and-beyond
[04:24:19] <Runaway1956> A three hour press conference Chromas? Where's the TLDR version?
[04:33:05] <Runaway1956> 17,322 duplicate votes
[04:36:26] <Runaway1956> I think that was enough votes to swing the election in three or more states - not going back to find all the numbers again
[04:37:24] <Runaway1956> Nor am I watching to see in which precincts those votes were cast - but all they had to do was win two, three, or four precincts to carry the state
[05:35:13] <Runaway1956> I see that someone fixed a spam mod before I got around to reporting it. https://soylentnews.org
[05:35:14] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | SpaceX CEO Elon Musk Explains Why Blue Origin’s Starship Lawsuit Makes no Sense ( https://soylentnews.org )
[05:35:16] <Runaway1956> good job
[07:37:31] <chromas> the tl;dw I guess is shared accounts, unpatched Windows, files apparently relating to other states, multiple OS installations...just ripe for muh Russian interference
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[08:27:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tech Giants Quietly Buy Up Dozens of Companies a Year. Regulators are Finally Noticing. - https://sylnt.us
[10:22:39] <Runaway1956> Awesome. I converted a VM from Virtualbox to VMWare. Create a new VMDK drive, use it to make a complete backup of the VBox machine. Create a new VMware machine, plug in an install media, and follow the prompts to restore your machine.
[10:23:08] <chromas> I'm surprised they don't play each other's formats
[10:23:32] <Runaway1956> I tried, VMWare kinda barfed on VBox machine.
[10:24:25] <Runaway1956> VMWare seems to work better with IOMMU and better at managing memory.
[10:25:16] <Runaway1956> I discovered that ballooning you mentioned in VBox - it's rather unimpressive after seeing how VMWare works.
[10:26:20] <chromas> That's probably true for most of vbox :)
[10:26:42] <Runaway1956> Another thing - I ran VBox and VMWare side-by-side before enabling IOMMU - it works.
[10:27:01] <Runaway1956> Doing it with IOMMU enabled not so well - VBox crashes repeatedly.
[10:27:30] <Runaway1956> Seems like VMWare crowds VBox out of the IO loop
[10:32:24] <Runaway1956> Moving forward, I think I'll convert another machine, then delete all those VBox test machines to recover space
[10:32:29] <Runaway1956> then uninstall VBox
[10:33:05] <chromas> The Microsoft one's pretty decent on Windows, but it doesn't support sound or graphics acceleration
[10:33:22] <chromas> and when I tried it, I couldn't get vbox to work with the ms one enabled
[10:33:57] <Runaway1956> Yeah, most guides warn you not to run two different VM solutions on the same host machine simultaneously
[10:34:09] <Runaway1956> but I had to discover that for myself, lol
[10:35:35] <Runaway1956> On another front . . . I'm considering a new Ryzen 9 machine for Dear Wife, and applying all I've learned about Win10 and Win11 to it.
[10:36:19] <Runaway1956> Start with either Pro or Enterprise, use DISM to get rid of all the cruft and it makes a fairly decent OS
[10:36:38] <Runaway1956> Can't mistake it for Win7 really, but it's almost as nice.
[10:53:15] <chromas> Does it get a decent menu or do you need to install open shell or start11?
[10:55:25] <chromas> The Ryzens are pretty nice. I can render 3d shat in Blender faster on my cpu than the gtx 960 now
[10:55:44] <chromas> The current gens are supposed to be around 20% more fasterer
[11:32:06] <Runaway1956> Win10 and 11 menus are pretty crappy - you'll want to install one of the above
[11:32:52] <Runaway1956> I've concentrated on stripping all the bloat and crapware out of the OS, haven't concentrated much on customizing it
[11:33:37] <Runaway1956> I can't imagine why anyone would ever want Microsoft to maintain an advertising channel directly onto the desktop
[11:33:48] <Runaway1956> or why they want to send in telemetry on everything
[11:34:14] <Runaway1956> For that matter, by default, you can't even sign into the desktop unless you have a Microsoft account
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[13:16:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mapping Words to Colors - https://sylnt.us - pun
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[17:31:00] <chromas> fpos
[17:31:46] <requerdanos> I'm sorry, ban on *!*@* is pretty broad
[17:31:58] <chromas> you should be sorry
[17:32:10] <chromas> should be a way to revoke all bans at once tho
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[17:55:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fossilized Footprints Show Humans Made It to North America Much Earlier Than First Thought - https://sylnt.us - whose-footprints-are-these?
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[18:39:08] <FatPhil> waaaaaat!?!?!?
[18:51:43] <Bytram> chromas: Ooops... My bad! I had tried to block jman's hourly change nick from SoyGuesnnnnn to jman -- wait a minute -- change nick from jman to SoyGuestmmmmm. The pattern used by the command when I tried to ".kickban jman: when he popped in did not only block jman. :(
[18:52:23] <Bytram> chromas++ Thanks for clearing the other bans, too.
[18:52:23] <Bender> karma - chromas: 389
[20:12:58] <progo> I'm window shopping the Framework laptop. again. https://frame.work - last line on the page: WARNING: This product can expose you to chemicals including Nickel (Metallic), which is known to the State of California to cause cancer, and Bisphenol A (BPA), which is known to the State of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm. For more information go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov
[20:12:59] <systemd> ^ 03Framework Laptop
[20:13:01] <progo> oh California…
[20:13:20] <progo> please do not eat laptop parts; you might get caner or cause birth defects
[20:13:38] <progo> *cancer
[20:14:22] <progo> my preferred configuration would cost about $1030. I'm close to pulling the trigger. my money will be worth comparatively less against commodities if I wait the usual year it takes me to buy a computer
[20:15:30] <progo> for those who don't know: Framework is trying to popularize fully repairable laptops designed to be easy to disassemble and swap parts. (clear labels inside, all one screwdriver head type, comes with screwdriver, no glue holding display in chassis, etc.)
[20:16:09] <progo> their products are more expensive now because they're not built to be tossed away and replaced in 18 months, and because they're a new company with very little cash
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[21:58:35] <Teckla> The Framework laptop looks interesting. I'd like a model without an OS, or with Linux preinstalled.
[22:00:25] <FatPhil> https://cdn.jwz.org
[22:48:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) Flew a Plane Over Apple's Headquarters - https://sylnt.us - don't-look-at-MY-data
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[23:20:55] <c0lo> =submit https://www.cnbc.com
[23:20:59] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Empty Shelves, Gasoline Shortages and Sky-high Energy Prices? Britain is Facing a ‘Difficult Winte" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:23:10] <c0lo> =submit doi10.1038/s41598-021-97778-3 https://www.universetoday.com
[23:23:11] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "083,600 Years Ago, a 50-Meter-Wide Meteor Exploded in the Sky and Destroyed a City Near the Dead Sea -" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:25:21] <c0lo> =submit https://markets.businessinsider.com
[23:25:22] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08A Hamster Has Been Trading Cryptocurrencies in a Cage Rigged to Automatically Buy and Sell Tokens Si" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:26:40] <c0lo> =submit https://www.businessinsider.com
[23:26:43] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Most Americans Support COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates, Polls Show" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:30:22] <c0lo> =submit https://mashable.com
[23:30:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Anti-productivity Quota Law Passes as Amazon Still Surveils Workers" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:33:04] <c0lo> =submit even-ferrets https://apnews.com
[23:33:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03USDA: Ferret Tests Positive for COVID-19 in Florida" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:35:02] <c0lo> =submit boomers-and-incels-don't-have-to-care https://www.nationalgeographic.com
[23:35:08] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03COVID-19 May Impair Men’s Sexual Performance" (28p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:37:46] <c0lo> =submit https://www.businessinsider.com
[23:37:51] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Carbon Capture is Expensive, Too Small-Scale to Address Climate Change" (29p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:38:45] <Bytram> c0lo++ thanks for the story subs!
[23:38:45] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 47
[23:40:30] <c0lo> =submit https://www.businessinsider.com
[23:40:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Blue Origin Will Blast William Shatner Into Space in October: Report" (8p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:42:06] <FatPhil> #NoThanks
[23:43:03] <c0lo> =submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[23:43:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Researcher Drops Three iOS Zero-days That Apple Refused to Fix" (32p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:43:30] <Bytram> Hasn't he "Been There Before"?
[23:44:14] <c0lo> No, he was just going to.
[23:44:36] <c0lo> =submit there's-your-microchips https://uncnews.unc.edu
[23:44:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03A 3D Printed Vaccine Patch Offers Vaccination Without a Shot - UNC News" (25p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:45:09] <Bytram> c0lo: Sorry. That iOS 0-Day story is already in the queue
[23:46:10] <Bytram> *in the *story* queue
[23:48:18] <c0lo> Why are you sorry, bytram? Is it for systemd devolving in to not signalling dupes anymore?
[23:48:26] <c0lo> =submit https://appleinsider.com
[23:48:29] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Apple Threatened to Pull Facebook From the App Store Over Human Trafficking" (8p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:48:53] <c0lo> =submit https://www.npr.org
[23:48:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Hollywood Production Crews May Strike Due to Unglamorously Low Wages and Long Hours" (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:50:46] <c0lo> =submit (grin) https://www.reuters.com
[23:50:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'Truth is Truth': Trump Dealt Blow as Republican-led Arizona Audit Reaffirms Biden Win" (45p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:51:49] <Bytram> AIUI, it will flag *exact* dupes. But it cannot, for example, flag the same story from, say, The WSJ and from CNN.
[23:52:40] <c0lo> QA springs into action
[23:52:48] <c0lo> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[23:52:50] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'Truth is Truth': Trump Dealt Blow as Republican-led Arizona Audit Reaffirms Biden Win" (44p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:53:11] <c0lo> Test failed. Same reuters story twice.
[23:53:53] <c0lo> (grin)
[23:54:15] <c0lo> =submit https://www.businessinsider.com
[23:54:19] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "0330 Members of Congress Caught Violating Law on Stock Trades in 2021" (35p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:54:42] * Bytram will quickly throw together a Natural Language Recognition plug-in.
[23:56:50] <Bytram> c0lo: look again. Different number of paragraphs in the two submissions (45p) vs (44p)
[23:57:30] <Bytram> Story at that URL was likely updated between the time of the two subsa
[23:57:38] <Bytram> *subs
[23:59:43] <c0lo> bytram, pay attention to what I'll do next. I will demonstrate that systemd lost functionality (in no relation with detecting the same story from two different sources, which is a functionality systemd never has)
[23:59:47] <c0lo> You redy?