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[00:37:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - International Project Seeks to Eliminate HIV in Kids - https://sylnt.us
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[03:26:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Taking Lessons from a Sea Slug, Study Points to Better Hardware for Artificial Intelligence - https://sylnt.us - sluggish-progress
[03:45:29] <AzumaHazuki> looks like SN's cert died
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[03:48:37] <c0lo> But of course the certificate expired, that what the certificates do all the time. It's only the eds that are ethernal.
[03:48:59] <c0lo> s/eth/et/
[03:48:59] <SedBot> <c0lo> But of course the certificate expired, that what the certificates do all the time. It's only the eds that are eternal.
[03:49:20] <c0lo> s/ethernal/etherneted/
[03:49:21] <SedBot> <c0lo> But of course the certificate expired, that what the certificates do all the time. It's only the eds that are etherneted.
[03:49:45] <c0lo> s/ethernal/wireless/
[03:49:45] <SedBot> <c0lo> But of course the certificate expired, that what the certificates do all the time. It's only the eds that are wireless.
[03:50:11] <c0lo> s/ethernal/fibered/
[03:50:12] <SedBot> <c0lo> But of course the certificate expired, that what the certificates do all the time. It's only the eds that are fibered.
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[03:59:23] <LXGHTNXNG> :(
[04:24:07] <Runaway1956> soylentnews.org normally uses encryption to protect your information. When Opera tried to connect to soylentnews.org this time, the website sent back unusual and incorrect cred
[04:24:26] <Runaway1956> I guess you all know that already
[04:25:36] <Runaway1956> Fibred editors? That explains everything
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[06:07:26] <janrinok> Yep - it appears that the certificate has expired.
[06:07:43] <janrinok> I wish that they would just autoupdate
[06:15:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Inspirati④n - Expected to Launch Today - https://sylnt.us
[06:21:54] <FatPhil> pale moon doesn't even offer me an "ignore this", which I consider pure psychopathy
[06:23:16] <janrinok> Neither does FF 92 on one of my machines, but it does on another. Identical settings...!
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[06:38:22] <janrinok> FatPhil, I can log in via TOR Browser.
[06:40:05] <deimtee> It lets me ignore it, but I had to do it for soylentnews.org, chat.soylentnews.org and again for logs.sylnt.us to see the logs. PaleMoon 29.4.1 (just auto-updated)
[06:41:03] <janrinok> Perhaps those that get a good response can read it out to the rest of us,,,,?
[07:08:58] <chromas> so the cure for ebola is un-marinated pork?
[07:18:43] <janrinok> If it was bacon I'd be over there in a flash
[07:20:11] <chromas> I was thinking of that experiment (with three entire subjects) where eating pork caused the participants' blood to 'coinstack' unless it was marinated in acid
[07:20:53] <inz> The participants needed to eat 3 whole piggies?
[07:21:11] <inz> Oh, sorry, those were the objects, nbm
[07:21:16] <chromas> one for each type off house, of course
[07:37:57] <FatPhil> Tried another browser, got a better error message: "This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that Firefox may only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible to add an exception for this certificate."
[07:42:05] <chromas> firefox used to say that but I guess it's hidden now
[07:42:27] <chromas> should be disable-able though. who are you to tell me if I can connect to your server or not?
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[08:12:29] <Guandalug> Just for the unlikely fact that it's not already known: The LetsEncrypt-Certificate reached its EOL and wants renewal.
[08:12:59] <Guandalug> (the certificate for soylentnews.org, that is)
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[08:56:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Opens NM Showroom on Tribal Land, Avoiding Direct-Sale Ban - https://sylnt.us - installed-a-new-bypass
[09:02:01] <janrinok> oh good, it is still telling us what we are missing...
[09:06:55] <FatPhil> what most people don't appreciate is that "availability" is as much a component of "security" as "confidentiality" and "integrity". HTTPS is not providing us with the whole trifecta.
[09:20:05] <chromas> it's secured away from the useres
[09:20:24] <chromas> also, not https's fault fireffox is doing a dum
[09:20:47] <FatPhil> what's firefox doing wrong?
[09:21:09] <chromas> not allowing me to ignore expired cert
[09:21:26] <FatPhil> it's obeying orders from SN
[09:22:02] <chromas> sn shouldn't get to decide if the bypass button appears
[09:22:10] <FatPhil> if you permit it to capriciously ignore SN, you're approving it rewriting pages with goatse on a whim.
[09:22:39] <chromas> maybe I want goatse. Who's mozilla to decide I can't see goatse?
[09:22:42] <FatPhil> SN is in control of its content
[09:22:49] <FatPhil> it chose HSTS
[09:23:11] <chromas> and why doesn't firefox mention hsts in the error page anymore?
[09:23:24] <chromas> that'd be like websites saying I can't zoom and the browser complying
[09:23:26] <chromas> oh wait
[09:23:41] <FatPhil> or you can't right click
[09:23:46] <FatPhil> already done
[09:24:09] <FatPhil> e.g. on images to save locally, or to select/copy text
[09:24:22] <chromas> websites also want me to load ads. The browser doesn't force that
[09:24:36] <chromas> hm, I wonder if there's an (ef) extension
[09:26:45] <FatPhil> what about wget's --no-check-certificate
[09:27:48] <chromas> sounds like something that needs to be disabled
[09:29:26] <FatPhil> w3m gives user choice primacy over site choice
[09:29:33] <FatPhil> no switches needed
[09:29:42] <FatPhil> it asks interactively
[09:33:52] <FatPhil> anyway, lunchtime, let's go kill a dolfin...
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[09:47:04] <Eratosthenes> Seems that the Cert has expired.
[09:50:16] <inz> That's been the hot topic today.
[09:53:57] <Eratosthenes> Do we have our best people working on it around the clock?
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[10:03:38] <ingar> Welcome to Soylentnews, where SSL certificates have expired
[10:04:44] <ingar> so I should probabely verify I've not been scammed into connecting to a malicious IRC server
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[10:20:15] <c0lo> so, anyone that is actually buying a bucket of certificates to replace the old one with, or are we bound to make considerations about various ways to get around an expired certificate in various browsers?
[10:22:24] <janrinok> As you know the certs are free. But it needs someone with the appropriate privs to run the code to update them - which takes less than 30 seconds. Most people used the provided 'certbot' software which takes care of things automagically, There is a reluctance on this site to do that, one reason is that we used the certs in several different ways but certbot only automates the update of one of them.
[10:22:52] <janrinok> So we are waiting for someone with the appropriate server access and privs to wake up in the USA and do the deed for us.
[10:24:18] <c0lo> so either chromas doesn't have appropriate server access or he's not usian. Which of the two?
[10:24:27] <janrinok> possibly both
[10:25:11] <janrinok> Bytram, is the obvious person but he is probably fast asleep at present.
[10:25:23] <c0lo> Ah, yes
[10:25:27] <c0lo> =blame
[10:25:27] * systemd points at Bytram
[10:25:38] <janrinok> see, there's your answer ;)
[10:27:09] <chromas> That's a pretty dumb reason to not automate it since it has a hooks file to fire off any scripts needed to update other cert-using softwares
[10:27:33] <boru> Agreed.
[10:28:02] <boru> I've automated generating new CAs, new CSRs, CRLF and deployment for this stuff.
[10:28:10] <janrinok> I agree - but it isn't my decision and whenever I've mentioned it I have been told it is better to do it manually - until nobody does it.
[10:28:11] <boru> It's just a few openssl commands.
[10:28:16] <chromas> I've seen 'em update before but as far as I've seen, it's only been 'documented' in irc and I'm not scrolling around for 45 minutes looking for the procedure
[10:28:26] <boru> certbot is unnecessary.
[10:28:32] <boru> And for n00bs.
[10:29:02] <boru> Is it the site cert that expired, or something in its chain of trust?
[10:29:12] <chromas> so is let'sencrypt but all the buttloader browser vendors like to pretend self-signed certs are from the devil
[10:29:18] <janrinok> boru, probably, but we use the certs in lots of surprising (to me at least) places.
[10:29:31] <boru> Well, it's just TLS. It's useful for lots of stuff.
[10:29:32] <janrinok> just the cert that has expired
[10:30:06] <boru> Well, you could prepare the CSR and replacement cert whilst you wait for someone if you have access to the SN CA cert.
[10:30:54] <janrinok> I haven't got access to any of it - that is a sys-admin role I think.
[10:31:12] <boru> Ah, alright.
[10:31:42] <inz> acme-client is much less bloaty than certbot
[10:31:52] <janrinok> we only have 2.5 sysadmins (Bytram being the 0.5) and I don't have an out-of-hours contact for them
[10:31:59] <boru> I was about to send you the appriate commands. I presume the persons in charge have default configurations for the certs, so probably makes sense to wait for them.
[10:32:17] <boru> A script which just calls openssl is less bloaty than anything.
[10:32:19] <janrinok> They have a script all ready to run I think
[10:32:22] <boru> There really isn't much to it.
[10:32:27] * boru nods.
[10:32:41] <boru> I'll stop being a backseat driver and take my oar back out.
[10:32:46] <janrinok> ... which then copies it to various places in different servers
[10:34:05] <inz> body, I could argue that openssl is bloaty, but let's not go there. :)
[10:34:12] <inz> s/body/boru/
[10:34:12] <SedBot> <inz> boru, I could argue that openssl is bloaty, but let's not go there. :)
[10:34:36] <inz> I haven't even written html in ages, wonder where that came from.
[10:34:43] <janrinok> Bytram has a job of breaking things on purpose - I tend to break them simply by being in the vicinity. Not giving me access is probably a smart move.
[10:34:50] <boru> Well, its codecase certainly leaves a lot to be desired, but these "automation" tools for it seem like a solution looking for a problem.
[10:35:44] <inz> But as it's a letsencrypt cert, it needs to holler to them and back, not just sign a CSR with a CA
[10:36:08] <chromas> Why do you presume the persons in charge have default configurations for the certs? :D
[10:36:21] <inz> Because everyone has ;)
[10:36:25] <chromas> nothing else here is default
[10:36:29] <janrinok> lol
[10:37:58] <boru> Heh, it saves you a lot of time to use a configuration file for generating CA certs, CSRs and CRLFs alike.
[10:38:54] <boru> I use one for each endpoint, which keeps the commands simple, and means I can easily version control these things.
[10:39:39] <boru> Anyway, no more bikeshedding from me. I'll be quiet.
[10:46:03] <FatPhil> an .eu-based admin with l33t sk1llz in the relevant fields would be useful. At least once a month!
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[10:47:29] <boru> Wouldn't that be Deucalion?
[10:47:39] <boru> I thought he was in britain.
[10:48:10] <boru> Or is he not 1337 enough?
[10:48:15] <fliptop> Is the SSL Cert expired on SN? I can't connect this morning...
[10:48:19] <boru> Yes.
[10:50:04] <boru> Feh, I don't have the chanperms for topicprepend.
[10:50:40] <FatPhil> .op
[10:50:40] -!- mode/#soylent [+o FatPhil] by Aphrodite
[10:52:36] <chromas> FatPhil must be typing it all from his n-900
[10:52:46] * boru chuckles.
[10:52:57] * chromas will try to beat him
[10:53:05] -!- mode/#soylent [+o chromas] by Aphrodite
[10:53:16] chromas changed topic of #soylent to: cert's expired yo | Please keep discussions civil | SN Main Channel | https://soylentnews.org | Some PISG charts: https://stats.sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publicly displayed here https://logs.sylnt.us
[10:53:23] <boru> /msg chanserv topicprepend Yes, we know about the TLS problem
[10:53:25] -!- mode/#soylent [-o chromas] by Aphrodite
[10:54:08] <boru> Did you mean yo'? As in the TLS certificate has expired yonder?
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[10:54:30] <chromas> sure. all interpretations are valid
[10:54:38] <boru> Very well.
[10:58:28] <t3> I feel better, knowing I'm not the only one who fails at ssl
[10:59:50] <boru> Unless it's the people who are supposed to protect your data.
[11:00:30] <chromas> your datas are fine; nobody can access them
[11:00:55] <boru> I wasn't levelling that at SN, fwiw. Moreso at banks etc.
[11:06:19] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:06:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5590
[11:06:35] <FatPhil> bundle!
[11:08:23] <Bytram> sysadmin 0.5 present; need to look things up )has been a couple years since I updated certs
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[11:29:34] <janrinok> lol
[11:36:12] <Bytram> darn! It *has* been a long time; I *think* I found my notes
[11:37:05] <c0lo> Same time you were learning Japanese and practicing on howto notes?
[11:46:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mars Mission Radiation Risk Could be Minimized by Leaving During the Solar Maximum - https://sylnt.us
[12:01:39] <Ingar> lynx just works btw :p
[12:02:27] <Ingar> so it seems this HSTS is a pure client side thing
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[12:04:19] <SoyCow9629> Hi ..someone please re-issue the ssl certificate for soylentnews.org , because it expired yesterday
[12:04:50] <SoyCow9629> have a nice day
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[12:18:36] <Ingar> it's a dupe
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[12:20:00] <Mika-chan> Hello.
[12:20:16] <Bytram> hi
[12:20:30] <Mika-chan> Are you aware that SoylentNews is throwing a message that its certificate is expired?
[12:20:47] <Bytram> we know certs have expired -- working on it
[12:20:57] <Bytram> tx!
[12:21:21] <Mika-chan> I figured as much. Thank you for your hard work.
[12:21:47] <Bytram> thanks for letting us know
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[12:52:10] <janrinok> ... seems like it isn't as simple as we thought
[13:33:48] <Bytram> looks to me like we're back
[13:36:43] <boru> The new cert will expire in December, fwiw, but otherwise it looks okay. Have you updated the CRLF?
[13:37:19] <boru> The cert configuration looks good, also.
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[14:07:35] <c0lo> Ummm... put a reminder in S/N's crond for December?
[14:25:19] <c0lo> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
[14:25:22] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Extreme Weather to Cost US Over $100bn This Year: Joe Biden" (25p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:27:02] <c0lo> =submit https://www.clubic.com
[14:27:05] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08L'hébergeur De Sites liés À l'extrême-droite Epik Aurait été piraté Et Ses données dérobée" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:27:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bruce Is a Parrot with a Broken Beak. So He Invented a Tool. - https://sylnt.us
[14:28:19] <c0lo> =submit https://www.salon.com
[14:28:21] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03"Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer": Texas GOP Website Hacked Over New Abortion Ban" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:28:52] <c0lo> =submit https://www.jpost.com
[14:28:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Hackers Steal 'Decade's Worth of Data' From Far-right Webhost Epik" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:29:31] <c0lo> =submit https://gizmodo.com
[14:29:32] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Anonymous Claims to Have Stolen Huge Trove of Data From Epik, the Right-Wing’s Favorite Web Host" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:32:21] <c0lo> =submit https://www.euronews.com
[14:32:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Meet the British Mechanic Adapting Classic Cars for an Electric Future" (26p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[14:35:45] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[14:35:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "0390% of Global Farm Subsidies Damage People and Planet, Says UN" (28p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:36:47] <c0lo> =submit north-china-sea https://www.scmp.com
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[14:44:51] <c0lo> =submit https://www.geekwire.com
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[14:46:39] <c0lo> =submit good-american-tribes https://apnews.com
[14:46:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03US Tribes Demand Emergency Protection for Wolves" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:57:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Site's Security Certificates Expired -- Now are Renewed and Problem Seems to be Solved - https://sylnt.us
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[15:42:49] <Runaway1956> https://www.supermicro.com
[15:42:50] <systemd> ^ 03Supermicro SuperDoctor® 5 (SD5)
[15:43:44] <Runaway1956> Pretty cool tools to help manage the server hardware
[15:43:46] <FatPhil> with super in the name twice, how much are they compensating?
[15:44:46] <Runaway1956> it's like doublemint gum for computers
[15:53:27] <c0lo> =submit suicidal-cops https://newjerseymonitor.com
[15:53:29] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08N.J. Top Cop Notes COVID-related Deaths Among Police as Unions Continue Anti-mandate Push - New Jers" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:54:20] <c0lo> =submit https://www.pewresearch.org
[15:54:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Key Facts About Americans and Guns" (30p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:55:23] <c0lo> =submit https://www.nbcnews.com
[15:55:25] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'a Matter of Life and Death': U.S. Army Says Active Duty Soldiers Must be Vaccinated by Dec. 15" (7p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:56:58] <c0lo> =submit https://www.salon.com
[15:57:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Mayors Defy DeSantis Threat to Fine Cities Over Vaccine Mandates" (25p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:57:59] <c0lo> =submiy https://www.cnbc.com
[15:58:46] <c0lo> =submit https://www.cnbc.com
[15:58:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Facebook Documents Show How Toxic Instagram is for Teens, Wall Street Journal Reports" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:59:01] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[15:59:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Justice Dept. Curtails Agents' Use of 'No-knock' Warrants" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:08:00] <c0lo> =submit https://thespinoff.co.nz
[16:08:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03We Managed to Toilet Train Cows, and They Learned Faster Than a Toddler" (28p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:12:38] <c0lo> =submit https://www.cnbc.com
[16:12:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03More Workers are Facing Mandatory Covid Vaccination or No Job" (4p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:19:24] <c0lo> =submit virtual-influencers-are-real https://www.allkpop.com
[16:19:26] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Please Wait... | Cloudflare" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:32:09] <Ingar> Bytram: thanks for fixing the cert
[16:47:42] <Teckla> c0lo: Wow, you are a submission *machine* :)
[16:48:01] <Teckla> c0lo++
[16:48:01] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 46
[17:17:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Storage Galore: New PS5 Update Finally Lets Users Add More Space for Games - https://sylnt.us
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[17:53:39] <chromas> from the jesus...just-admit-consoles-are-pcs-already dept.
[18:24:34] <FatPhil> went to a new restaurant tonigh, there's a food festival in town this week, and I swear the main course was sweeter than the sweet.
[18:25:26] <FatPhil> I also supect that the sweet had twice the mass, and 4 times the calhorrific value of the main.
[18:27:35] <FatPhil> one thing I learnt from the dishes tonight - marigolds are edible. (and I don't mean the rubber gloves)
[18:28:38] <chromas> rubber gloves?
[18:29:39] <chromas> never heard them called marigolds before, you frickin' weirdos
[18:30:05] <FatPhil> it's probably the biggest brand in the UK
[18:31:59] <FatPhil> Marigold - The UK's number one selling yellow rubber glove www.marigold.co.uk
[18:32:57] <chromas> well I guess if their marketing says so then I'll believe it
[18:33:56] <FatPhil> well, youl also have a datapoint from a multi-decade resident in the country
[18:34:25] <chromas> anecdotes not allowed
[18:34:45] <chromas> so you weren't talking about them being edible...but are they?
[18:35:18] <chromas> and what was the sweet?
[19:02:55] <FatPhil> marigolds the flowers are definitely edible - a bit like daffodils.
[19:11:15] <Ingar> we call them 'stinkers'
[19:12:57] <Ingar> mmm now google is confusisng me
[19:13:09] <Ingar> *confusing (it did a good job apparently)
[19:14:02] <Ingar> yeah them stinkers are something else
[19:14:09] <Ingar> calendula definetly is edible
[19:14:34] <Ingar> or at least they didnt kill me
[20:01:47] <FatPhil> "All marigold flowers are edible (including calendula, also known as pot marigold)" - now I know why you tried eating it...
[20:03:21] <Ingar> my parents had an edible variant in their garden
[20:03:55] <Ingar> nice to put on a salad
[20:04:10] <Ingar> and then see al the guests' faces when you eat the flower
[20:04:56] <FatPhil> I didn't realise it was edible until the third course.
[20:06:28] <Ingar> it's not like it tastes awesome or anything
[20:07:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Stormy Relationship Between Solar Power and the Weather - https://sylnt.us - sunny-day
[20:23:14] <Deucalion> <boru> I thought he was in britain. - Indeed so. Therefore no longer .eu-based :/ Similar TZ though. But I am not trusted with root / sysadmin access on most SN servers :)
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[22:24:15] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[22:24:16] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Inspiration4 | Launch (00; 559,849 views; 👍41,387 👎373)
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[22:51:31] <Runaway1956> A fund raising space launch - that's a real original, isn't it/
[22:53:06] <Runaway1956> Wow, the internet sucks today - 360p is lagging and buffering pretty badly
[22:56:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rerun of Supernova Blast Expected to Appear in 2037 - https://sylnt.us
[23:04:38] <Runaway1956> Groaner - add Arts to Stem and you get STEAM
[23:25:41] <Bytram> why not "START" =)
[23:57:33] <Bytram> t-6:00