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[02:25:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Walking With Coffee is a Little-Understood Feat of Physics - https://sylnt.us - rock-and-roll
[02:47:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Spider Silk Inspires a New Material with Extraordinary Mechanical Properties - https://sylnt.us - Charlotte's-[new]-web?
[02:56:59] <Runaway1956> LOL, "Generation why did we bother"
[02:57:34] <Runaway1956> from a tech video - https://www.youtube.com
[02:57:37] <systemd> ^ 03My most painful PC Build... - ROG Rig Reboot 2019
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[04:33:37] <t3> =submit https://www.nature.com
[04:33:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Climate Science is Supporting Lawsuits That Could Help Save the World" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:03:36] <t3> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[05:03:39] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Sex Can Relieve Nasal Congestion, and Other Work Honored by 2021 Ig Nobels." (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[05:17:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Screens in Cars are Becoming a Problem - https://sylnt.us - time-for-head-up-displays?
[06:17:08] <chromas> =sub https://www.theguardian.com
[06:17:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pollutionwatch: How Bad are Bonfires for the Environment?" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:37:45] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: I'll take that spam report to the admins on the admin chan, as it, and the posts surrounding it, is "interesting". But heed my response on that thread, please.
[06:38:45] <AzumaHazuki> "big scary phantom windmills?"
[06:38:49] <AzumaHazuki> really?
[06:39:11] <AzumaHazuki> the way around this is to expose whoever socks or mods wrongly. don't worry about reprisals
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[06:40:30] <Subsentient> Black metal is just gospel music for devil worshippers.
[06:40:40] <Subsentient> It's spicy gospel
[06:41:32] <FatPhil> next time you think an AC is someone, immediately follow up with "who might want to make me think that that AC is someone?". And then stop worrying about it, as both are equally likely and equally unlikely and there's always a third option.
[06:43:29] <FatPhil> This is why I treat all ACs as nobodies, with no identity. If they talk about something in the past I remind them they have no past, they sprang into existence at the point of making their post, not before. It's all very zen, they're just a pool of nothingness from which occasionally a scoop of post is extracted.
[06:43:31] <AzumaHazuki> we could always disable anon posting. i am of the opinion that if someone has something to say they can say it under their own account
[06:44:14] <AzumaHazuki> it really seems to bother certain (dishonest) people on that forum that I don't post AC, for some reason. I don't think they can comprehend a straight shooter
[06:46:34] <janrinok> AzumaHazuki, we _could_ disable it but we would lose more that we would gain in my opinion. Don't condemn all ACs just because a few are scumbags with nothing to offer.
[06:47:20] <AzumaHazuki> a few, but very loud and prolific ones
[06:47:56] <janrinok> true, but that also reflects on society as a whole at the moment.
[06:50:10] <FatPhil> Does it also reflect on society that the vast majority of posters are not willing to associate themselves with what they say?
[06:50:25] <FatPhil> Are they actually ashamed of what they're posting, or what?
[06:52:18] <janrinok> Probably, but that would be speculation on my part as I have nothing to prove or disprove it. There could also be a degree of paranoia because many seem to think that everything they say is being noted by TLAs who they imagine to be watching everybody.
[06:53:43] <FatPhil> The TLAs have intercepted their VPN connection anyway, are they naive as well as spineless?
[06:54:39] <janrinok> There _would_ be some advantages with stopping AC posting but I don't personally believe that they outweigh the negatives. Some of our ACs contribute financially, some make an intelligent contribution to the comments, and some are simply trying to avoid being detected on the computers that they use at work.
[06:56:35] <FatPhil> heck, on the very rare times I feel a need to post from my phone rather than just waiting until I get home, I need AC posting, as I can't log in from my phone (phone's problem, not SN's)
[06:58:58] <janrinok> Unfortunately, it is not something we could trial without potentially learning the hard way that a ban would be a mistake.
[06:59:29] <janrinok> Individuals can ban ACs if they wish, can't they?
[07:00:07] * janrinok asks that as a genuine question - he's never tried it or felt the need for it
[07:00:15] <FatPhil> -5 their posts, and set the threshold to 0
[07:01:34] <janrinok> thought so
[07:08:35] <chromas> Yeah the posts under user nicks are sooo much better than the AC posts :)
[07:10:53] <janrinok> lol - but at least I know which comments to read and which I can probably skip over!
[07:12:46] <FatPhil> and you can foe to -5 the ones who you know are shitnozzles
[07:13:14] <chromas> I don't wanna foe myself tho
[07:14:37] <FatPhil> From my .sig file:
[07:14:38] <FatPhil> I find the easiest thing to do is to k/f myself and just troll away
[07:14:38] <FatPhil> -- David Melville on r.a.s.f1
[07:15:11] <chromas> kill divided by file yourself
[07:20:10] <FatPhil> it's short for kovfefe
[07:20:27] <FatPhil> David was well ahead of the curve
[07:20:36] <chromas> Speaking of fefes, https://www.msn.com
[07:20:37] <systemd> ^ 03Now we know how tabby cats get their stripes
[07:24:20] <FatPhil> Steven Wolfram solved that 20 years ago, it's a neural net or something
[07:24:36] <FatPhil> blockchain?
[07:29:04] <chromas> blockchain-on-the-blockchain
[07:29:09] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[07:29:11] <systemd> ^ 03Interstellar Docking Scene PARODY
[07:43:19] <FatPhil> I've never seen Interstellar, I just thought it would annoy more than entertain. Given that parody, I was right. The music, the dialog, the retardedness.
[07:43:43] <FatPhil> who needs the visuals? I'm not even watching the parody now, I'm just imagining how bad it is!
[07:44:14] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[07:44:16] <systemd> ^ 03Honest Trailers - Interstellar
[07:44:36] <FatPhil> just sharing that parody with the g/f, with the comment "looks like we dodged a bullet"
[07:44:39] <FatPhil> chromas++
[07:44:39] <Bender> karma - chromas: 384
[07:50:39] <FatPhil> chromas++ physisc!
[07:50:40] <Bender> karma - chromas: 385
[07:50:54] <FatPhil> tears rolling down my face now!
[07:51:05] <FatPhil> people on the internet are brilliant, we need more of them.
[07:58:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - With COVID Out of Control, Biden Unveils Hefty Vaccine Mandates - https://sylnt.us - get-vacinated-and-wear-a-mask
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[10:47:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First Came a Quake in Mexico, then Strange Blue Lights - https://sylnt.us - #Apocalipsis
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[11:39:02] <t3> I was going to suggest adding a "no anonymous comments" to the journal menu, but it looks like this is a site-wide constant that would require a lot of rewriting to implement?
[12:12:48] <chromas> I dunno. All the people who claim they want no ACs only post lamebait journal entries
[13:21:03] <janrinok> and then write comments as ACs which they then reply to in their true identify, and then back to pretending to be an AC ....... and so on.
[13:25:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The IgNoble Prizes for 2021 - https://sylnt.us - something-that-makes-people-LAUGH,-then-THINK
[13:39:53] <Bytram> t3: That choice already exists when writing journal stories. The journal-entry-submitter can select: "Only Logged-In Users"
[13:45:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Ig Noble Prizes for 2021 - https://sylnt.us - something-that-makes-people-LAUGH,-then-THINK
[14:09:31] <FatPhil> Damn, I wish I didn't have to go out - some of that IgNobel list looks hilarious!
[14:09:41] <FatPhil> laters, taters.
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[16:06:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Paid Influencers Must Label Posts as Ads, German Court Rules - https://sylnt.us - an-ad-by-any-other-name...
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[17:22:43] <t3> Bytram: is that just for admins? I don't see the option on my "write in journal" page or journal preferences
[17:32:03] <t3> or the source for that matter
[17:47:56] <janrinok> t3, no it is in the drop down menu that defaults to 'Comments Disabled'. There are half a dozen other options available
[17:51:29] <t3> I only have two options in that menu
[17:52:42] <janrinok> ah, then perhaps you are correct - I am assuming they are comments / no comments?
[17:52:50] <t3> yep
[17:54:17] <janrinok> If we find out how easy it is to change that (some menus are configured via a template which we _can_ modify, then it might be worth reviewing which ones we allow to all users.
[17:54:45] <janrinok> well, not exactly a template, but a modifiable file
[17:58:39] <t3> ah, I see now, "commentcodes_extended" is admins only, and that's where the setting lies
[17:59:01] <t3> admins/subscribers only
[17:59:34] <t3> I sent my last to MDC, which explains why I don't see it
[18:03:00] <janrinok> that is an unusual choice - admins/subscribers only. I suspect that marking your username as a subscriber is an easier way to fix it PROVIDING it doesn't cock up Bytram's accounting.
[18:03:29] <janrinok> would you have an objection if that were possible?
[18:13:46] <t3> I don't need the option, I just thought it might solve the whining about sockpuppets and ACs, which is almost all from journals
[18:15:06] <t3> it's probably about time for me to reup anyway
[18:21:16] <janrinok> I don't think we will ever stop the whining about sockpuppets or ACs. ;)
[18:41:09] <AzumaHazuki> there's an easy way: post suspected socks and who they seem to be, and disable AC posting
[18:46:29] <janrinok> No, they are entitled to their privacy - this is not the middle ages where we put people in stocks for all to see. And I know that we disagree about ACs. That's what makes this site what it is. We can disagree - we just have to be intelligent about it.
[18:48:09] <janrinok> anyway - it is the end of my day so I will be back on here tomorrow. Have a good one!
[18:51:13] <t3> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[18:51:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03EXCLUSIVE Wide-ranging SolarWinds Probe Sparks Fear in Corporate America" (54p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:57:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Best VGA DOS Games. Period. - https://sylnt.us
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[19:33:33] <chromas> t3: I don't think you understand just how much we love whinging about trivial bs :D
[19:33:55] <chromas> it's in our heritage. "omg they called us an audience!!!12"
[19:54:46] <Bytram> chromas++
[19:54:46] <Bender> karma - chromas: 386
[19:57:22] <Runaway1956> in box is full of congress critters wanting my thoughts on Biden's vax mandate
[19:59:28] <Runaway1956> And then there's Schumer who doesn't care what anyone thinks - he's just fund raising for Newsome
[20:04:11] <chromas> newsome, oldsome, threesome, awesome
[20:17:07] <Bytram> chromas++
[20:17:07] <Bender> karma - chromas: 387
[20:21:38] * Runaway1956 looks forward more and more to fiber interwebzez
[20:22:04] <Runaway1956> I have a FAH work unit that's been trying to upload, literally for hours.
[20:22:15] <AzumaHazuki> why would that probe spark fear?
[20:22:18] <Runaway1956> Fails again and again
[20:22:22] <AzumaHazuki> if they did nothing wrong they have nothing to fear, nu
[20:23:05] <Runaway1956> Rebooted router, kicked all the parasitic connections, trying again, looks like it might work this time
[20:27:28] <Runaway1956> Yay, the mail lady brought my Arctic MX-5 - I'll probably put those CPUs in this evening.
[20:29:52] <Runaway1956> Uploaded 47 MB, started at 19:37, finished at 20:28 - that's so sad.
[20:35:26] <Bytram> Runaway1956: I was wondering what was happening! I saw a slowdown and could not guess why! ( https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com )
[20:35:27] <systemd> ^ 03Runaway1956 User Summary - Folding@Home Stats
[20:36:36] <Runaway1956> Slow internet hurts the stats, but that's not the real slowdown
[20:37:05] <Runaway1956> suddenly, I'm getting a lot of very large work units, and they aren't especially high value
[20:37:38] <Runaway1956> That 47 MB upload is not exactly typical
[20:37:55] <chromas> hyperinflation
[20:38:08] <Runaway1956> Am more accustomed to seeing 5 to 10, maybe 15 MB uploads when a WU finishes
[20:39:53] <Bytram> Runaway1956: My first IBM-compatible computer had a 40 MB hard drive... split into 32 MB and 8 MB partitions.
[20:40:27] <Bytram> =w ST-251 hard disk
[20:40:28] <systemd> The ST3000DM001 is a hard disk drive released by Seagate Technology in 2011 as part of the Seagate Barracuda series. It has a capacity of 3 terabytes (TB) - https://en.wikipedia.org
[20:40:40] <Bytram> LOL!
[20:41:03] <Runaway1956> I remember those days - my 386sx came with 40MB hard drive
[20:41:06] <Bytram> =w ST-251 half height hard disk
[20:41:07] <systemd> the Earth in under a million years. The orbiting mass created a gap in the disk, thereafter slowly increasing to 50 Earth masses in 3–4 million years. According - https://en.wikipedia.org
[20:42:07] <Runaway1956> Of course, I couldn't afford such state of the art machines back then - I scooped that machine up at an estate sale
[20:42:11] <Bytram> Mine was a 80286 at 10 MHz with one wait state or 12 MHz with two wait states.
[20:43:23] * Runaway1956 made an attempt to install Windows on a 286 - it wouldn't work LOL
[20:43:29] <Runaway1956> memory constraints
[20:44:14] <inz> Our 286 had a 60 MB hdd, woo
[20:44:16] <Bytram> mine cost me ~ $2,500 ( upgraded to 1 MB RAM and the hard disk )
[20:46:05] <Bytram> came in 4 boxes -- hand to install the memory and the hard disk myself. Setting jumpers and praying I did nothing that would release the "magic smoke"!
[20:47:24] <Bytram> right now, though, I could use some "magic sleep" ... time for a nap!
[20:47:31] <Bytram> ciao for now!
[20:47:39] <Runaway1956> https://bestlifeonline.com
[20:47:40] <systemd> ^ 03This Is Why Your Walmart Could Be Closed This Weekend
[20:48:01] <Runaway1956> Dear Wife just informed me that several Walmarts are closed until Sunday
[20:48:09] <Runaway1956> That link is the first hit I got with a search
[20:48:29] <Runaway1956> COVID cleaning?
[20:48:50] <Runaway1956> Oh - later Bytram
[20:50:41] <Bytram> Hmm, from your link: "Walmart shoppers from coast to coast have noticed their stores closing their doors until Sunday, Aug. 22 or Monday, Aug. 23, and the retail giant is now explaining why."
[20:50:54] <Bytram> that seems a bit out of date.
[20:51:41] <Bytram> its's 2021-09-10, here.
[20:51:53] <Runaway1956> True - clicking more links, but I kinda imagine I'll find the same explanations elsewhere
[20:52:23] <Runaway1956> https://www.msn.com
[20:52:24] <systemd> ^ 03Leitchfield Walmart to be closed until Sept. 7 for sanitizing, restocking purposes
[20:52:42] <Runaway1956> and, of course the 7th has come and gone as well
[20:52:42] <Bytram> My guess is it would be WRT 9/11 anniversary.
[20:54:27] <Bytram> Prolly don't want anyone shooting up their stories on the anniversary.
[20:55:37] <Runaway1956> How 'bout an oil change? https://toofab.com
[20:55:38] <systemd> ^ 03Mom Asks Walmart for Oil Change, Gets Car Blown Up Instead (Exclusive)
[20:55:41] <Bytram> s/shooting/blowing/
[20:55:41] <SedBot> <Bytram> Prolly don't want anyone blowing up their stories on the anniversary.
[20:56:27] <Bytram> all hypothetical on my part, of course!
[20:56:56] <Runaway1956> I'm leaning toward the sanitizing theory myself - other stores around the country have been shut down for that purpose,
[20:57:09] <Runaway1956> looks like they've moved sanitizing operations into this area
[20:57:29] <Bytram> anyway, my bed beckons; Snzzzzzz!
[20:57:41] <Runaway1956> 'night
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[21:47:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Announces "Ray-Ban Stories" Smart Glasses - https://sylnt.us - glass-holes-part-due
[21:50:11] <chromas> due?
[21:50:17] <chromas> Probably overdue
[21:50:49] <chromas> I hope they've got touchscreens so I can finger my glasshole
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[22:24:02] <Runaway1956> Well then - server doesn't post with new CPUs
[22:24:11] <Runaway1956> probably need to do BIOS update
[22:31:06] <Runaway1956> Important Note: Note: BIOS R 3.0 or later is required to support AMD's 6300 series processors
[22:32:01] <chromas> so now you've gotta swap 'em back out, re-paste the old ones, then put them back and re-repaste again
[22:32:16] <Runaway1956> Yeah, exactly
[22:33:03] <chromas> just use the paste that's already on it for the temporary setup. it's not like you're loading them up just to install the firmware
[22:33:31] <Runaway1956> I guess that a 6276 is a 6300 series? I mean, I read that before, and dismissed it