#soylent | Logs for 2021-09-02

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[00:03:02] <FatPhil> well, it's better than hypochlondriaquine, I hear.
[00:26:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - State of Russia's ISS Segment Sparks Safety Concerns - https://sylnt.us - safety-is-up-in-the-air?
[00:46:16] <Runaway1956> I don't think there's any food left Bytram - an entire pot of beans has evaporated here today.
[00:47:35] <Runaway1956> I put those beans on to soak last night, turned them on to cook about 9:00 this morning. Went into kitchen to get some awhile ago, and found six or seven beans drying at the bottom of the pot.
[00:52:48] <Bytram> follow your nose -- they'll reveal themselves, I'm sure!
[00:53:03] <Runaway1956> FatPhil - you gotta take the hydrochlorostuff while eating the bum cream, and it works best if you turn 3 times widdershins while chanting the Hara Krishna thing.
[00:54:15] <FatPhil> Happy Krishmas to you too
[00:56:25] <FatPhil> how many times did you sample the beans to test if they were done or not?
[00:58:25] <Runaway1956> Uhhhh, I think about 4 time, one bean each time. They were damned good beans, too!
[00:59:09] <FatPhil> each one the size of your shoe, and now the pan's empty, you say?
[00:59:54] <Runaway1956> I sprinkled some from almost every bottle of spice on the shelf, added some lime juice, two tablespoons of garlic, a medium large onion, and a pound of Italian sausage
[01:00:10] <Runaway1956> No cinnamon or nutmeg
[01:03:37] <FatPhil> italian sausage bore a grudge - you'll find the beans in the outfield at the Laker's stadium.
[01:06:42] <Bytram> So,the real question remains: just how big were those beans, anyway? About 7 oz each?
[01:07:14] <Bytram> Besides, by now what is done is done. So stop worrying about it and let it pass!
[01:07:55] <Bytram> and with that passing remark, it's time for me to pass off to sleep.
[01:08:08] <Bytram> Have a great night everybody!
[01:13:14] <t3> =yt emh22gT5e9k very depressing how little progress has been made in 40 years
[01:13:14] <systemd> No results
[01:13:24] <t3> =yt emh22gT5e9k
[01:13:25] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Blit - The first Unix graphical multi-programming terminal by Rob Pike and Bart Locanthi (04:04; 20,235 views; 👍262 👎2)
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[01:49:27] <tedious> Runaway1956: I know you were joking but you know there are real doctors using ivermectin or hcq in patient treatment regimens right?
[01:51:16] <tedious> For ivermectin it's believed to inhibit a protease the covid virus needs to replicate and for hcq it's a zinc transport agent and zinc interferes with some other viral process.
[01:51:16] <Runaway1956> Tedious - what I know for certain is that Trump suggested that hydrochloroquin be investigated, because someone suggested it to him
[01:51:26] <Runaway1956> and half of America came unwrapped
[01:51:34] <tedious> Yeah that was dr. zelenko.
[01:51:45] <tedious> thezelenkoprotool.com
[01:52:06] <Runaway1956> meanwhile, we have 'Zumi today admitting that we should be investigating anything and everything that has any promise of curing and/or alleviating the symptoms of COVID
[01:52:21] <tedious> I agree.
[01:52:45] <Runaway1956> I believe that a lot of drugs have had some kind of beneficial results, and it all should be checked and rechecked and checked some more
[01:53:11] <tedious> The more people we can get exposed and cured and develop robust natural immunity the faster we can get to real herd immunity.
[01:53:24] <Runaway1956> agree with that
[01:53:26] <tedious> Then this whole thing becomes just another annoying cold.
[01:53:42] <tedious> And the we can tell big pharma go fuck off and die.
[01:54:02] <Runaway1956> at the same time, I'm not really aware of doctors who are claiming that any one drug or vitamin or whatever will cure or prevent COVID
[01:54:12] <Runaway1956> if so, then that doctor lacks any credibility
[01:54:19] <tedious> Right it's all been censored to hell.
[01:54:49] <tedious> Zelenko had a large practice and he says he has treated a few thousand patients.
[01:55:13] <Runaway1956> Clinical data tends to trump research data, IMHO
[01:55:34] <tedious> Aren't they the same thing?
[01:55:42] <Runaway1956> If a doctor treats thousands, and saves a large majority of them, he probably has some idea what he's doing
[01:55:44] <tedious> Oh you mean actual patient data?
[01:55:59] <Runaway1956> no, clinicla is real world data collected in clinics
[01:56:08] <tedious> Yeah he says he had an 84% success rate at keeping patients out of the hospital.
[01:56:16] <Runaway1956> it's generally less rigourous than research data - if research is done correctly
[01:56:24] <tedious> I think he said 2 died.
[01:56:49] <Runaway1956> I may not be entirely accurate, but I equate clinical data and empirical data
[01:57:18] <Runaway1956> whereas, we see time and again that research often affirms the beliefs of those funding the research
[01:58:03] <Runaway1956> It seems that not a week goes by, we run a story about faulty research
[01:59:25] <tedious> Yeah the reproducability crisis.
[01:59:41] <Runaway1956> What is it about flies? Two are buzzing the room - when I pick up a fly swatter, they disappear entirele
[01:59:54] <Runaway1956> lay that swatter down, and they are right back irritating me
[02:00:11] <tedious> Wouldn't you if you knew your death was in somebody's hand? :)
[02:00:37] <Runaway1956> Of course, that leads to the question: WTF do I have flies? I don't think I've died.
[02:00:39] <t3> flies and mosquitos both are very sensitive to air movement, they will drop to the ground
[02:03:19] <t3> there are some devices that mimic bat ultrasound keep flying bugs at bay
[02:04:05] <tedious> I read that those ultrasonic pest thingies are all snake oil.
[02:04:26] <tedious> I think consumer reports did a survey and didn't find any that were legit.
[02:04:47] <tedious> Maybe they came out with better ones later idk.
[02:05:28] <t3> they work, but not perfectly (or else all the bats would starve)
[02:05:50] <tedious> DO you have one?
[02:06:07] <tedious> I would love to try one for myself.
[02:06:15] <t3> I've used them while camping but don't own any
[02:06:27] <tedious> Oh wow that's great.
[02:06:32] <t3> birch bark oil is more effective IMO
[02:06:35] <tedious> Good job science. :)
[02:06:48] <tedious> Never heard of that.
[02:07:57] <t3> it's exactly what it sounds like, and not hard to make if you have birch nearby
[02:08:57] <tedious> Just boil some bark and collect the oil that rises to the top?
[02:09:26] <t3> pyrolysis rather than boiling, and the oil drains out the bottom, but very simple
[02:10:00] <t3> http://www.practicalprimitive.com
[02:10:00] <systemd> ^ 03Practical Primitive | Skill of the Month: Birch Tar
[02:10:34] <t3> I've seen simpler setups, but the basics are all the same
[02:13:26] <tedious> Nice thanks.
[02:38:01] <Runaway1956> In my experience, ultrasonic pest gadgets don't work for crap
[02:38:08] <Runaway1956> Bug zappers are alright
[02:38:16] <Runaway1956> and citronella candles
[02:39:33] <Runaway1956> of course, a pan of warm soapy water catches all sorts of insect pests, especially if a low-watt light bulb is suspended above the trap
[02:39:58] <Runaway1956> anything that homes on infrared can be expected to end up in such a trap
[03:16:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Hycean Worlds" Identified as Possible Habitable Exoplanets - https://sylnt.us
[04:06:26] <tedious> Runaway1956: How far above the water?
[04:06:49] <tedious> And can you use led or cfl bulbs?
[04:07:34] <tedious> I guess you need to keep the water warm at like body temperature so the bugs will keep falling into it right?
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[05:59:38] <Penis> Man can raise and lower his penis like a flag on command.
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[06:06:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Man Can Change His Pupil Size on Command - https://sylnt.us - eye-pupils-not-student-pupils
[07:19:29] <chromas> But what about cock pushups?
[07:19:36] <chromas> How many can you do?
[07:21:48] <chromas> I guess you could only do one, really
[07:49:08] <FatPhil> =yt 8w8sc3MhTFw
[07:49:08] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Viagra PushUp (17; 39,022 views; 👍38 👎6)
[07:59:03] <Runaway1956> https://soylentnews.org
[07:59:04] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | State of Russia's ISS Segment Sparks Safety Concerns ( https://soylentnews.org )
[07:59:25] <Runaway1956> Bullshit spam mod alert janrinok - the system is still being abused
[08:18:07] <janrinok> Could you give me a clue where?
[08:20:20] <chromas> there's a link
[08:22:14] <janrinok> Two people have marked it down, including marking it as spam, and 1 person marked it up. The system is working as advertised. We can't stop spam until it appears, and somebody has already actioned it. Not sure what you expect me to do?
[08:22:35] <FatPhil> as I was reading on my phone last night, without superpowers, I noticed some strange downmods of one of the prior victims, should investigate that...
[08:22:40] <chromas> probably unspam it
[08:23:57] <FatPhil> I've not yet unspammed a comment with my new admin powers - can I unspam that to see what happens?
[08:24:07] <boru> I'm amazed that people are bored/petty enough to go through the trouble of following people around to mod down their posts. It's pathetic.
[08:24:08] <janrinok> Well as it turned into a racist argument I am not sure that would be appropriate. FatPhil - yep go ahead
[08:24:34] <FatPhil> It's inflamatory, yup, but also kinda funny. Humour's like that.
[08:24:55] <FatPhil> doing an [unspam only]
[08:25:05] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[08:25:06] <systemd> ^ 03Aliens vs. Herpes || Robot Chicken
[08:25:40] <FatPhil> OK, that was simple, the mod's disappeared. What's the record of me doing that in the logs?
[08:26:03] <FatPhil> we can take super seekrit admin urls to a private chan, of course...
[08:26:27] <janrinok> lets do that
[08:37:10] <Runaway1956> Unspam only is cool - one person upmodded, one person legitimately downmodded - that's normal
[08:39:06] <janrinok> chromas, thanks for pointing out the link - I tend to ignore lots of links on this page especially when hidden between YouTube and submission/story links
[08:40:41] <Runaway1956> lol - I should have hung around after invoking your name
[08:40:53] <Runaway1956> could have probably cleared things up quicker
[08:43:40] <janrinok> It makes it more obvious if you put the link on the same line as the alert - but it isn't a big issue.
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[08:45:20] <FatPhil> boru: the correlation between "stalker" and "abuser" is also very strong. There's some psychopathy there...
[08:45:30] <FatPhil> Ooooh, speak of the devil
[08:45:56] <Eratosthenes> I am only stalking you out of scientific interest, FatPhil!
[08:46:13] <Runaway1956> Hello again aristarchus
[08:46:42] <Eratosthenes> Runaway, you do not know who people are just because you are paranoid.
[08:47:01] <janrinok> That's not the only reason he knows who you are.
[08:47:08] <Runaway1956> There's only one person around here obsessed with old dead greek bastards
[08:47:19] <Eratosthenes> Looks like the wrong crowd for any serious discussion.
[08:47:32] <janrinok> lol - and that's coming from you?
[08:47:41] <Runaway1956> act respectable, maybe you get some respect
[08:47:43] <Eratosthenes> Yes, it is.
[08:47:57] <Runaway1956> We've upped our standards, now up yours.
[08:48:11] <janrinok> well, go on then, pretend to be somebody else and say something intelligent to start a discussion
[08:48:41] <Eratosthenes> Runaway, you are the single problem with SN now. We got rid of EF, and TMB, time for you to go.
[08:48:57] <Runaway1956> I love the confession
[08:49:12] <Runaway1956> You're out to control who can be members, and to control the discussions
[08:49:59] <Eratosthenes> Rather difficult to drop into an IRC blind, and start a discussion. What was going on before I joined?
[08:50:06] <janrinok> Now that is just plain vindictive, Ari/ sorry Era. This is not your site. Go back to your journals if you want things to be just as you would like them.
[08:50:21] <Runaway1956> What I'm kinda curious about is, why you have such emotional investment in all of your personnas?
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[08:51:01] <Runaway1956> LOL
[08:51:23] <aristarchus> Oh, runaway is here?
[08:51:50] <janrinok> Anyway, I've got some studying to do before my next online French lesson - and loads of vocabulary to learn. If you have nothing sensible to say, I'm off for a while.
[08:52:20] <Eratosthenes> Per dieu!
[08:52:46] <Eratosthenes> I seem to recall the topic was "stalking"?
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[08:53:32] <Eratosthenes> Nice
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[08:54:47] <janrinok> That was a discussion between FatPhil and boru - you would be out of your league there
[08:55:27] <Eratosthenes> As I recall , the entire kerfuffle began when aristarchus managed to provoke Runaway into throwing a unwarranted Spam mod, which should have gotten him mod-banned for a good long time.
[08:56:07] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhhh but, Runaway was mod-banned. Are you objecting to that?
[08:56:22] <Eratosthenes> As if FatPhil had a league!
[08:56:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Indian Parliamentary Committee Wants to Ban VPN services - https://sylnt.us - internt-routes-around-it-as-damage
[08:56:24] <Runaway1956> And, why does it matter to you?
[08:57:17] <Eratosthenes> Because I was accused without justification of being a sockpuppet! Such an insult!
[08:57:33] <Runaway1956> FFS, drop the charade.
[08:57:54] <Runaway1956> Anyone with an IQ larger than his shoe size can figure you out.
[08:58:31] <Runaway1956> Where's your Chicken Little personna - that was your best effort.
[08:58:33] <aristarchus> Worse, to be accused of being one of my sockpuppets? I would admit to Runaway, but no one would believe me.
[08:58:52] <FatPhil> so many words, so little content
[08:59:06] <Eratosthenes> So little evidence?
[09:00:07] <Eratosthenes> A question: are Eds dropping my subs just because of my username?
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[09:01:17] * Runaway1956 hasn't really noticed any of your subs - are they identical to aristarchXXXXXXX subs?
[09:01:42] <Eratosthenes> It is the content of the subs that makes SN worth perusing. If that is gone, we are dead?
[09:01:47] * Runaway1956 browses subs queue
[09:02:04] <Runaway1956> LOL - such a question from a dead greek
[09:02:20] <Eratosthenes> You won't find them. Rejected out of hand.
[09:02:54] <Runaway1956> more likely rejected out of slop bucket
[09:03:15] <Runaway1956> no one actually handles night soil
[09:03:44] <aristarchus> I have given up on subs. I have a well known rejection rate, but it is even less worth contributing of late.
[09:04:30] <aristarchus> Well, except for the one on the banning of Runaway from Reddit.
[09:04:31] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah - I'm reminded of aristarchus repeated attempts to dox me
[09:04:39] <Runaway1956> why is that aristarchus
[09:05:08] <Runaway1956> How many times have you phished for my name now? At least half a dozen.
[09:05:15] <aristarchus> We know who you are, where you live, and how many dogs you have. It is all your own fault for revealing so much here.
[09:05:32] <Runaway1956> So, are you going to come visit me?
[09:05:46] <Runaway1956> You and all of your online personnas?
[09:06:16] <Runaway1956> You'll probably drive two cars, amirite?
[09:06:32] <aristarchus> Do you have Prosecco?
[09:06:50] <Runaway1956> I used the last of it to clean the toilet yesterday.
[09:07:16] <Runaway1956> If you bring some good Scotch whiskey we might talk.
[09:07:19] <aristarchus> Hillbilly coulture, to the last!
[09:07:39] <janrinok> Aristarchus said "I have given up on subs" - I hope he is being truthful at least about his alt-right rants
[09:08:09] <Runaway1956> The only people who make worse alcoholic beverages than the Greeks are the Portuguese
[09:08:29] <Eratosthenes> Things seem to have shifted to insurrectionists, and horse de-wormer.
[09:09:10] <aristarchus> Evidently you are ignorant of Samian Muscato!
[09:09:37] <Runaway1956> Samos' reputation suffers with you online.
[09:10:01] <aristarchus> Samos produces some of the best Greek wine, but, I am biased.
[09:10:29] <Runaway1956> "Best Greek wine" is still worse than the worst Scotch whiskey.
[09:10:53] <Eratosthenes> So boru was stalking? Don't make me check the logs!
[09:10:56] <Runaway1956> Almost any Euro beer is better than Greek wine.
[09:11:22] <Runaway1956> I think he was stalking a ham sandwich, but I'm not sure.
[09:12:00] <aristarchus> You are displaying your ignorance again, Runaway!
[09:12:15] <Runaway1956> That from an ignorant moron?
[09:12:24] <FatPhil> moran, spell it right!
[09:12:44] <Runaway1956> I don't do Greek misspellings, thank you.
[09:12:56] <Runaway1956> moran is a navigational system
[09:13:23] <Runaway1956> maybe if you had ever been anywhere, you would know that
[09:13:51] <Eratosthenes> I wonder, does anyone think that the comaradierie in IRC contribute to a certain liability for SN at large? Seems that some here have more "pull", to the detriment of the site as a whole.
[09:14:43] <chromas> Go hang out in slashdot irc then
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[09:15:03] <chromas> Nice to know someone's worse at trolling than I am though
[09:15:20] <Eratosthenes> Of course, but that is why I am here.
[09:15:44] <chromas> your fake systemd doesn't even haz @pid1
[09:15:47] <Runaway1956> this is getting boring . . .
[09:15:52] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[09:15:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5584
[09:16:57] <aristarchus> Runaway is always boring, and he works for Scandahooviansm, not for Elon Minsk!
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[09:17:59] <Runaway1956> Oh, looky, a Y chromosome instead of all Xs
[09:18:13] <FatPhil> ari did once have some "pull" here, but we asked him to put it away.
[09:19:15] <janrinok> Runaway, I think you mean LORAN for the navigation system - https://en.wikipedia.org
[09:19:16] <systemd> ^ 03LORAN - Wikipedia
[09:19:53] <Eratosthenes> Old sailors.
[09:20:10] <janrinok> dead Greeks
[09:20:21] <janrinok> take your pick
[09:20:29] <aristarchus> Of course, it has all been replaced by GPS'
[09:21:02] <Runaway1956> You are correct janrinok - but I thought I'd make someone look
[09:21:21] <janrinok> I used to use it
[09:21:22] <Eratosthenes> Still based on Thales application of Egyptian geometry to navigation, though.
[09:22:09] <Runaway1956> 'Scuse me while I fight to the death for the last cup of coffee
[09:22:11] <janrinok> so was the construction of the local public toilet - I still wouldn't claim it as a masterpiece.
[09:22:35] <Eratosthenes> Crapper?
[09:22:52] <Runaway1956> I believe they imported that public toilet from Persia
[09:23:39] <aristarchus> There are Roman toilets with running water under the seats, constant flush!
[09:23:41] * Runaway1956 still pees in the bushes
[09:24:59] <aristarchus> For a tech site, many are completely ignorant of the history of technology!
[09:25:28] <Runaway1956> So, I've got an idea! Make some tech history submissions!
[09:25:57] <chromas> constant flush isn't very eco-friendly
[09:26:24] <aristarchus> Not a bad idea. Right now, looks like a piece on neurophilosophy is in order.
[09:26:29] <Runaway1956> Maybe not today, but back when there were only about 5 million humans on earth, it wasn't so bad
[09:27:10] <aristarchus> Rome, engineers, lots of water, fountains for distribution. History.
[09:27:13] <t3> wiping with sea creatures is probably more harmful than flushing
[09:27:48] <Runaway1956> Yes, Rome put ancient Greece to shame - they had real engineers.
[09:27:56] <Eratosthenes> Like with corn-cobs, you have to go the right way.
[09:28:10] <chromas> plus they had that cd burning software
[09:28:18] <t3> I meant for the environment, but that too
[09:28:49] <aristarchus> You ignorant moran, Runaway! Greeks have more important things to consider than where to put the rocks.
[09:29:22] <Runaway1956> Probably so aristarchus - they were more interested in which little boy to put their cocks into.
[09:29:37] <chromas> they had to choose?
[09:29:51] <Runaway1956> Choose which would be first, at least!
[09:30:22] <Runaway1956> Do a sheep, do a boy, do another sheep, do another little boy, on and on it went.
[09:30:26] <aristarchus> Constantly you express your interest in pederasty. Was that Dugger your neighbor?
[09:30:42] <Runaway1956> No, you weren't my neighbor.
[09:31:25] <Runaway1956> Oh, I've been meaning to ask you about Syracuse.
[09:31:32] <Eratosthenes> Arkansas, the home of, well, the home of, well, just be glad you are not from there.
[09:32:18] <aristarchus> You want to talk to Archimedes about Syracuse.
[09:32:31] <Runaway1956> The other Syracuse.
[09:33:26] <Runaway1956> And, no, there is no need for you to register another account named Archimedial mathematics or anything like that.
[09:34:21] <aristarchus> Syracuse, Missouri? Close to you, no?
[09:34:41] <Runaway1956> I sense some deflection here . . .
[09:36:11] <Eratosthenes> If Runaway is not referencing Syracuse, Sicily, the Greek city where Archimedes did his engineering, then I can only surmise that he is sphere phishing.
[09:36:33] <Runaway1956> only for spherical cows
[09:38:17] <aristarchus> Of course you realise, it was the Sicilian campaign that caused the Athenians to lose the Pelopenessian war. But all that was well before my time. What could possibly be your point, oh ignorant one?
[09:38:26] <Runaway1956> and when did they tow the island of Sicily to Greece? Did they park it next to the Cretins?
[09:39:13] <aristarchus> The accusation of "ignorant moron" has become redundant. If you do not know history, I will not talk to you.
[09:39:43] <Eratosthenes> Is Runaway reall this stupid? Holy Shite!
[09:40:25] <janrinok> you do know that talking to yourself could be a sign of madness, Ari?
[09:40:39] <Runaway1956> there are many signs of that
[09:41:21] <aristarchus> But also assuming that two people are the some person, when they are not, also a sign of madness.
[09:42:04] <Eratosthenes> I think we were talking about the Battle of Syracuse>
[09:43:01] <Runaway1956> Which one?
[09:43:42] <aristarchus> Janrinok is retired mititary , certainly he has read Thucidydes?
[09:44:19] <Runaway1956> Another dead Greek?
[09:44:34] <Runaway1956> Did you study ANY non-Greek history?
[09:45:09] <Eratosthenes> Well, Runaway, they had these traitors, most notably Alcibiades, who suggested that that Athens invade Afghanistan. It was a bad idea. Did not end well.
[09:47:01] <aristarchus> You really are an ignorant moron, Runaway? Do you not know the history of the Peloppenesian Wars? This is formarti ve to American democracy! It is even in the Federalist Papers!
[09:47:05] <Runaway1956> Seems there were lots of Greek traitors, weren't there?
[09:47:49] <Runaway1956> President Bidenmedias is a Greek too.
[09:47:51] <aristarchus> Yes, and it seems many American traitors, of which you are one.
[09:48:30] <Runaway1956> aristarchus the Greek savant
[09:48:53] <Runaway1956> almost synonymous to idiot savant
[09:49:33] <Runaway1956> why you hate 'Murica aristarchus? Because we eclipse those Greek pissants?
[09:49:33] <aristarchus> See? This is why it is so hard on SoylentNews. The base line of knowledge is American , or so low that it is impossible to educate anyone! Kind of a khallow problem.
[09:49:58] <aristarchus> Ignorant moron.
[09:50:13] <Runaway1956> Ahhh, you're learning to spell instead of smell
[09:51:16] <Eratosthenes> The downfall of democracy due to wars of expansion would be a lesson to Americans now, if they were ready to listen.
[09:51:51] <Runaway1956> Huh - one of aristarchus' puppets actually says something reasonably intelligent!
[09:52:01] <Eratosthenes> The Roman experience is slightly less relevant, but it also influenced the Founding Fathers of the American Republic.
[09:52:25] <Runaway1956> Yes, the American Republic, not the American Democracy.
[09:52:27] <Eratosthenes> And, Runaway is, as aristarchus said, an ignorant moron.
[09:53:23] <aristarchus> I agree, Runaway is an ignorant moron! How many times do I have to say this!
[09:53:43] <Runaway1956> Well, you just said it twice in quick succession.
[09:54:12] <Eratosthenes> Syracuse, Runaway, where is it?
[09:54:34] <Runaway1956> It's just up the road a short piece.
[09:54:44] <Runaway1956> Right beside Moebius Highway
[09:54:59] <Runaway1956> But, you can't get theah from heah.
[09:55:22] <Eratosthenes> Syracuse, Arkansas, is not a historical reference. You are an ignorant moron.
[09:56:46] <Runaway1956> WTF mentioned Arkansas?
[09:57:01] <Eratosthenes> Hmm, closest one I can find is Kansas!
[09:57:31] <Runaway1956> That sense of deflection grows stronger.
[09:57:44] <Eratosthenes> We all know you are a cold hand from Arkansas, Runaway. It is on your motorcyle pages.
[09:58:11] <Runaway1956> Cold hand? Is that some kind of allusion to Dead Greeks?
[09:58:53] <Runaway1956> https://www.mayoclinic.org
[09:58:54] <systemd> ^ 03Cold hands
[09:59:04] <aristarchus> Poor Runaway! To be such an ignorant moron! And to have it repeatedly pointed out to him! Oh, dear.
[09:59:34] <Runaway1956> There is Cool Hand Luke?
[10:00:42] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[10:00:44] <systemd> ^ 03Cold Dead Hand with Jim Carrey
[10:01:51] <aristarchus> Thought it was a folk song, something that everyone not from Arkansas knew about.
[10:02:15] <Runaway1956> You thought?
[10:05:08] <Runaway1956> Is it further from Little Rock to El Paso, or from Little Rock to Syracuse?
[10:06:27] <aristarchus> Just about a mile from Texarkana, in those old, cotton field back home!
[10:07:58] <Eratosthenes> Americans, Geographically challenged.
[10:08:05] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[10:08:08] <systemd> ^ 03Dave Gunning & J. P. Cormier - I Never Picked Cotton
[10:08:51] <aristarchus> So, you know your culture! Good, Runaway!
[10:09:12] <Runaway1956> Watch out for the COVID swabs
[10:09:48] <Runaway1956> Do you know what a Coal cracker is?
[10:09:48] <Eratosthenes> Made of cotton? Greece grows a lot of cotton, as well.
[10:11:13] <Eratosthenes> Are you asking me, or ari?
[10:11:26] <Runaway1956> Yes, ignorant moron.
[10:12:05] <Eratosthenes> And why is this relevant?
[10:12:29] <Runaway1956> Well, it's complicated . . .
[10:12:45] <Runaway1956> you idiots are fixated on my place of residence, and think of me as an Arkie
[10:12:52] <Runaway1956> But, I'm a coal cracker.
[10:13:16] <FatPhil> fuck me, you paralympians still at it?
[10:13:42] <aristarchus> Ok, Runaway, you are moderately competent an literate, explain your question.
[10:13:50] <Runaway1956> Home sweet home https://www.youtube.com
[10:13:54] <boru> I was about to ask if the three of them had considered /joining another channel rather than streaming their consciousness into this one.
[10:14:20] <boru> It is really a waste of bandwidth.
[10:14:52] <boru> I can't imagine new users sticking around after reading the scrollback.
[10:14:58] <aristarchus> Shut the fuck up, FatPhil, you are a wanker of a Pomie.
[10:15:42] <Runaway1956> Sorry I linked to that video - no coal cracker walks through the hills carrying two walking sticks
[10:16:21] <aristarchus> Oh, grate, FatPhil is gonna kick me!
[10:16:28] <Runaway1956> He's probably an escapee from a New York asylum
[10:16:54] <Eratosthenes> Still wondering about the stalking/abusing distinction.
[10:16:56] <FatPhil> do you remember last time when you practically begged to be kicked for about an hour?
[10:17:19] <FatPhil> and it really wound you up that none of the chops were kicking you?
[10:17:30] <aristarchus> yes, did you do it?
[10:17:56] <FatPhil> it was such fun watching you suffer
[10:18:15] <aristarchus> Oh, shit, FatPhil has figured me out. Must be all the beer.
[10:18:55] <FatPhil> have you prepared your journal entry on how y'all are being picked on on IRC yet?
[10:19:09] <Eratosthenes> So if you stalk someone, without abusing them, is the different from abusing them without stalking them?
[10:20:07] * Runaway1956 prefers to abuse dead greeks with walking sticks
[10:20:25] <Runaway1956> stalking sticks would work
[10:20:43] <aristarchus> I really think that you, FatPhil, have come into the situation way too late to understand what is going on. Of course, some of the major players are now gone, and things are different. But, still.
[10:20:57] <FatPhil> are you impressed how an old oxbridge-educated pommie can get mastery of the Amarican plural for "you"?
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[10:22:45] <aristarchus> Well, y'all get along, without it, but we Greeks really need the second personal plural, and the third person plural, and the Dative case and pluperfect tense.
[10:23:29] <FatPhil> we've noticed how much you need the first person singular plural already.
[10:24:04] <aristarchus> Sorry, singular plural is a contradictio in verbum.
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[10:25:07] <Eratosthenes> Not going to be able to get the discussion back to stalking and abuse, am I?
[10:25:26] <Runaway1956> No, you don't steer the discussion aristarchus
[10:25:41] * Runaway1956 sits at the rudder
[10:26:35] * Runaway1956 notes socks falling out
[10:26:52] <aristarchus> Runaway, the blind helmsman, of the ship of fools. Taking us to Faux News land, and a foul landing
[10:28:04] <Eratosthenes> I am tired of this, since it is going nowhere, and Runaway is really boring and uninformed, So, goodbye, all!
[10:28:34] <Runaway1956> more socks dropping out?
[10:29:04] <Runaway1956> Check your connection aristarchus
[10:29:14] <aristarchus> You're still here, you fake soylentil.
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[10:31:33] <aristarchus> How many socks you running these days, Runaway? Got to be able to downmod that Hazuki!
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[10:32:59] <Runaway1956> Huh? Projecting again?
[10:33:16] <FatPhil> he has more loose socks than a laundromat tumble-dryer
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[10:33:42] <Runaway1956> aristarchus is the tumble dryere
[10:33:43] <aristarchus> Had to go check the vacuum injetor molds, again?
[10:34:04] <Runaway1956> We aren't in Greece, the injectors don't suck
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[10:34:24] <Runaway1956> all your socks are dropping man!
[10:34:41] <Runaway1956> you must be tired and ready for bed
[10:34:49] <aristarchus> You insults are meaningless, Runaway, since you are a ignorant moron, and not very smart or educated. Syracuse?
[10:35:13] <Runaway1956> Syracuse.
[10:36:09] <aristarchus> Explain your obsession, Runaway. Why are you obsessed?
[10:36:35] <Runaway1956> That is exactly what we have been trying to figure out about you, 'Starchy
[10:38:21] * Runaway1956 opens a can of kippered herrings
[10:39:48] <FatPhil> I'm writing a new children's book, it's going to be called /The Texarcana Runaway and his Starchy Socks/, it'll be based on the jolly japes that take place on this channel. It'll be aimed at 4-6-year-olds, much like this channel.
[10:40:51] <Runaway1956> That might work out for you, if you get a ghost writer
[10:41:05] <aristarchus> Well, as I was trying to edumacate you about, Syracuse was the capital of the Greek colony of Sicily, and Athens attacked it in, oh, you can google, look up the dates! Syracusians got around behind the Athenians, burned their shipsm and the Athenians beat a retreat across the island. Questions?
[10:41:07] <Runaway1956> be careful he doesn't bring a ghost gun to work
[10:41:59] <Runaway1956> ignant moron - not Greece
[10:42:33] <Runaway1956> No one who is anyone really cares about Greece anymore.
[10:43:05] <Runaway1956> Dead Greeks, dead languages, dead philosphers, dead philosophies, none of that stuff matters
[10:43:35] <Runaway1956> It's like you're some kind of death cultist.
[10:44:59] <Runaway1956> What about Memphis then?
[10:45:12] <aristarchus> Any competent gunsmith could produce a weapon from scatch, it is only these ignorant stupid rednecks that thing there is something "magical" about it. I could produce a full auto in a week, with a micro-lathe and not much else. And on the barrel, it would say, "This machine kills fascists" Party on, Guthrie
[10:46:03] <Runaway1956> You couldn't sell your gun for a buck two fiddy
[10:46:12] <boru> I would strongly disagree about these things not mattering.
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[10:46:46] <Runaway1956> Ahhhh, so you're just changing socks - not putting them to bed after all.
[10:46:54] <aristarchus> 9mm bore, accepts Parabellum rounds. Can do.
[10:46:56] <boru> If only the man on the street would read a bit of Greek philosophy, the world would probably be in a considerably better place, with a far less myopia.
[10:47:19] * Runaway1956 prefers Russian philosopehrs
[10:47:56] <boru> Tell me you're not about to accuse me of being aristarchus.
[10:48:04] <aristarchus> And less reason for Greek philosophers to have to go into weapons production. But, more a hobby, to scare the alt-right
[10:48:29] <boru> Or a "Russian troll", as someone else accused me of being here recently.
[10:48:37] <aristarchus> boru does seem to resemble me.
[10:48:49] <boru> Take that back!
[10:48:57] <Runaway1956> No, but those sheep resemble you
[10:48:58] <aristarchus> OK, sorry
[10:49:31] <Runaway1956> we know you're sorry, now apologize
[10:50:01] <RunawayXXXX> Runaway cannot tell himself from those who have different numbers, because, dystopia.
[10:50:40] <Runaway1956> ignant moron
[10:51:07] <aristarchus> Interesting proposal. Runaway, do you know of any Russian Philosophers?
[10:51:26] <Runaway1956> You don't?
[10:52:07] <aristarchus> Well, of course I do. But that is not the question.
[10:52:51] <Runaway1956> I'm partial to Tolstoy - did you want a list, or what?
[10:54:47] <Runaway1956> Here you go - something to help you get over your obsession with dead Greeks - https://en.wikipedia.org
[10:54:48] <systemd> ^ 03List of Russian philosophers - Wikipedia
[10:57:05] <aristarchus> Hmm, Tolstoy is iffy, more a literatry figure than philosooher, but at least, Runaway, you came up with a writer!
[10:58:37] <aristarchus> And, as a philosopher, I do try to keep up to date. Seems I may have to to a "Consciousness for Soylentils" in the near future.
[10:59:10] <RunawayXXXX> Whats' up, bros!
[10:59:53] <Runaway1956> Well, any serious writing you might do is long overdue - everyone is tired of the tripe you submit recently
[10:59:54] <RunawayXXXX> Scored some primo horse gel today, feeling fine!
[11:00:04] <Runaway1956> even the people who like you are tired of your nonsense
[11:01:25] <aristarchus> The thing is, Runaway, you are not even remotely qualified to judge what is nonsense, since you are an ignorant moron! Cheers!
[11:02:09] <Runaway1956> let me repeat - even the people who like you are tired of your nonsense
[11:03:25] <aristarchus> Let me point out, there are no people that like you, and your Faux News derivative propaganda, Just stop, you idiot. ,
[11:03:40] <Runaway1956> Now, that's funny.
[11:04:01] <Runaway1956> Did all of your sock puppets vote on the popularity poll?
[11:04:15] <Runaway1956> Vote early, vote often, right?
[11:05:50] <Runaway1956> It must really chafe that even with all your socks, my karma never fell below ~30
[11:07:57] <aristarchus> Your sockpuppets will be found out, your illicit connections and subterreanian hoohahs will be exposed, and you will pay the price of being a russian shill and Fox News operative on SoylnetNews,
[11:08:31] <Runaway1956> Yeah, right, keep dreaming your grand dreams.
[11:08:47] * Runaway1956 wanders off to refill his coffee cup
[11:08:51] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[11:08:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5585
[11:11:17] <aristarchus> Oh, my karma never fell below 72! So Take that, you hillbilly ex-trucking redneck upagainst the wall motherfucker!
[11:12:25] <RunawayXXXX> I find all these claims about a credible as janrinok's claims about sockpuppetry.
[11:13:26] <Runaway1956> LOLOL
[11:13:50] <Runaway1956> "credible" is not a word that you are overly familiar with
[11:14:55] <RunawayXXXX> So what if Runaway is actually a Russian shill? Is there any way the admin could tell? I mean, just coming in from a Russian IP is not conclusive evidence, but it is some.
[11:16:30] <aristarchus> P-Zombies. Look it up. Fits Runaway to a T!
[11:17:45] <RunawayXXXX> Oh, shit, they found me!
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[11:22:40] <aristarchus> People promoting false medical treatment, on the internets, could be charged with practicing medicine without a license.
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[11:35:29] <chromas> I think I just got cancer skimming the channel
[11:36:44] <chromas> Yep. Doc confirms it. Also, all the covids. Every greek-lettered variant
[11:38:24] <chromas> even the omega strain, which already has its own video game
[11:41:11] <chromas> https://cdromance.com
[11:41:12] <systemd> ^ 03Syphon Filter: The Omega Strain (USA) PS2 ISO - CDRomance
[11:41:20] <chromas> Czech out those Attack of the Clones-quality graphics
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[12:17:21] <FatPhil> So, was Mikis Theodorakis another one of Ari's socks? Been permabanned, it seems
[12:23:42] <janrinok> not that I am aware of...
[13:04:26] <FatPhil> I am referring to the death of the composer of Zorba the Greek
[13:07:13] <janrinok> I knew the name but couldn't place it - fortunately I went for a nap...
[13:09:01] <FatPhil> so, it's called the subway because it's designed for submarines? https://twitter.com
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[13:26:10] <c0lo_> =submit LOL https://www.theverge.com
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[13:27:08] <AzumaHazuki> "censoring"
[13:27:24] <AzumaHazuki> you know what, give Texas back to Mexico already
[13:38:38] <c0lo_> 't'll be throw out as unconstitutional at the first challenge.
[13:57:18] <c0lo_> teehee, I'm getting good at purging mod points from others. Check out all my comments under https://soylentnews.org
[13:57:20] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | State of Russia's ISS Segment Sparks Safety Concerns
[14:03:19] <c0lo_> =submit organ-harvesting-next? https://abcnews.go.com
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[14:27:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Must Tell NHTSA How Autopilot Sees Emergency Vehicles - https://sylnt.us - vision-problems
[14:28:27] <progo> do we know that Tesla knows the answer?
[14:36:47] <FatPhil> they can just hand over a list of the weights in the NN
[14:37:49] <requerdanos> "as frictionless spheres" is probably the wrong answer
[14:40:24] <FatPhil> in a vacuum
[14:59:39] <AzumaHazuki> i don't think it will, c0lo_
[15:00:15] <AzumaHazuki> the correct solution to this is to shitflood the reporting system. did you notice it works like DMCA takedowns? guilty until proven innocent, no penalty for false claims, no limit on filing said claims...
[15:03:29] <FatPhil> requerdanos++
[15:03:29] <Bender> karma - requerdanos: 41
[15:27:33] <AzumaHazuki> it's really, really weird to think i'm be safer in texas as a gay (but closeted) woman than a straight one. this is really fucked up.
[15:43:16] <c0lo_> AzumaHazuki, DDoSing of flooding an unofficial site will do nothing in regards the constitutionality of the law. Not that is not already happening https://www.mysanantonio.com
[15:43:17] <systemd> ^ 03A conservative group launched website to report abortions. Trolls have other plans for it.
[15:43:53] <AzumaHazuki> haven't you noticed the executive has been wiping its ass on the Constitution since the 70s?
[15:44:15] <AzumaHazuki> it's up to the people now
[15:44:40] <c0lo_> But... the same law will act if other channels are opening. And those could me more difficult to flood.
[15:48:51] <c0lo_> Besides, I was pointing to the "Facebook banned from censoring conservatives" as unconstitutional. And I have this feeling Facebook will raise a shitstorm quite quick.
[15:51:29] <AzumaHazuki> oh i don't. the loonie RWNJs won, they packed the SCOTUS. everything else was somewhere between "nice to have" and "pretty window dressing"
[15:51:57] <AzumaHazuki> this country's over. i wish to fuck we could just wall off the South, evacuate anyone who doesn't politically align with that shit, and let the MAGA chuds do as they will. Alone.
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[19:26:40] <systemd> ^ 03The Fomu family.
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