#soylent | Logs for 2021-08-27
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[00:04:54] <systemd> ^ 03The All-Seeing "i": Apple Just Declared War on Your Privacy - by Edward Snowden - Continuing Ed
[00:06:07] <Teckla> =submit https://edwardsnowden.substack.com
[00:06:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The All-Seeing "I": Apple Just Declared War on Your Privacy - by Edward Snowden - Continuing Ed" (45p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:32:56] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: I have another question if you are around and have some time to chat.
[00:33:18] <tedious> I am just even more full of questions today than usual. :)
[00:36:12] <AzumaHazuki> am here, sorry. was out looking to see if the local rite aid had that last can of compressed air (spoilers: nope)
[00:37:29] <tedious> Is there a run on compressed air?
[00:38:19] <requerdanos> That's your question? Wow, talk about coincidence :)
[00:38:30] <tedious> LOL
[00:38:36] <tedious> No. :)
[00:38:48] <AzumaHazuki> not that i know of, but rite-aid seems to be leaning hard into "sell nouveau-riche white people Goop-style bullshit"
[00:39:10] <tedious> Oh.
[00:39:17] <tedious> That's weird.
[00:39:56] <tedious> So my main reason for wanting to eat a little chocolate every day has been because it's such a great source of natural anti-oxidants and such.
[00:40:57] <tedious> But after I found out about the lead and cadmium problem I was wondering if you have any less problematic ideas for cheap and easy to get replacements.
[00:41:18] <AzumaHazuki> hm...berries, green tea, the usual suspects I think
[00:41:53] <tedious> Green tea always has caffeine in it right?
[00:44:08] <AzumaHazuki> unless decaffeinated, and then it's still got a few mg
[00:48:13] <tedious> I'm wondering if there are any naturally decaf teas that aren't super expensive.
[00:49:21] <tedious> I remember reading about how making most decaf coffee uses nasty chemicals
[00:50:08] <tedious> I think you can get less nasty versions for more money but I never liked coffee much so I didn't pay much attention.
[00:56:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Silent Changes to Western Digital’s Budget SSD May Lower Speeds by Up to 50% - https://sylnt.us - this-again?
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[01:58:34] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: Do you know anything about fenofibrate?
[02:00:15] <AzumaHazuki> a little
[02:00:49] <AzumaHazuki> it's a fibric acid derivative used to lower cholesterol by, IIRC, blocking some of the receptors or intake "ports." can have some nasty side effects. rumored to be helpful against covid
[02:01:06] <tedious> Supposedly some israeli researchers found it is useful for covid patients.
[02:01:12] <tedious> Yeah.
[02:01:37] <AzumaHazuki> i have no earthly idea how that would work
[02:04:10] <tedious> I think all kinds of things are happening with drugs and covid that nobody understands.
[02:04:37] <tedious> Like how some drugs act as protease inhibitors for only certain viruses.
[02:06:24] <tedious> What was that generic version of lipitor that lots of chinese survivors were taking?
[02:07:00] <tedious> The poor people on the generic drug did better than the rich ones who could afford a different drug.
[02:07:29] <tedious> No wait it wasn't lipitor it was some acid reducer.
[02:08:02] <AzumaHazuki> famotidine
[02:08:23] <AzumaHazuki> my guess here is that it's acting body-wide on histamine H2 receptors, and that massive histamine release is part of covid-19 pathology
[02:32:50] <tedious> That was it.
[03:36:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fukushima Nuclear Water to be Released Via Undersea Tunnel - https://sylnt.us - ten-years-already?!
[04:31:14] <tedious> Uh oh.
[04:32:03] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: I'm in over my head with this but it sure sounds like big pharma was in bed with the us gov't and caused this mess we're in.
[04:32:40] <tedious> https://www.rumble.com
[04:32:40] <AzumaHazuki> how so?
[04:32:42] <systemd> ^ 03A manufactured illusion. Dr David Martin with Reiner Fuellmich 9-7-21 - Rumble ( https://rumble.com )
[04:33:09] <tedious> The science stuff is too much but I can sure understand the dates.
[04:34:08] <tedious> Fuck big pharma.
[04:34:31] <tedious> I just don't even know what to think anymore except that.
[04:35:56] <tedious> I mean how do you patent a drug to treat a virus 3 days after another company patents the virus?
[04:37:04] <AzumaHazuki> christ. you know, i can't even say i'm surprised. there are a zillion Great Filters out there and we may have smacked headfirst into one
[04:44:21] <tedious> What's a great filter?
[04:44:28] <AzumaHazuki> interesting, so from the sound of it, this was intended to be some sort of free-floating HIV vaccine with possible applications for other illnesses
[04:44:47] <tedious> Yeah.
[04:45:03] <AzumaHazuki> the Great Filter is the name for answer to the Fermi Paradox ("where are all the aliens?!"), this being, "intelligent races destroy themselves by some means or other"
[04:45:20] <tedious> Oh ok
[04:46:32] <AzumaHazuki> so far it sounds like they were thinking of using ACE2-active betacoronaviridae as vaccine vectors, like how some adenovirus vectors for covid itself work
[04:46:53] <tedious> Ok I've heard of that before yeah.
[04:50:45] <AzumaHazuki> ohhhh boy, this rabbit hole is going deep. if any of this is even remotely true, we have big pizdec on hand
[04:52:18] <AzumaHazuki> now 89-99% identity is not surprising given how DNA works...from a taxonomic PoV as he says
[04:52:31] <tedious> Yeah.
[04:53:08] <tedious> But if the new virus has only components that were previously patented that sounds like total bs.
[04:53:56] <AzumaHazuki> oh no, like he said, it has to be so. even cabbage is a good 70%+ identical to humans in DNA
[04:55:40] <AzumaHazuki> maaaan, this sounds like corporate greed playing with fire getting way the hell out of hand
[04:56:31] <Runaway1956> That video is just conspiracy theory alt-right nonsense tedious
[04:57:01] <tedious> Runaway1956: So those patent filings aren't real?
[04:57:22] <Runaway1956> Can't be, the Chinese said it came from pangolins, and I trust the Chinese.
[04:58:01] <Runaway1956> Alright, I'll be serious
[04:58:30] <Runaway1956> We knew bits and pieces of this a year ago, this guy has dug a lot further than anything I had read before this
[04:59:15] <tedious> I think his company must have AI that does the heavy lifting.
[05:03:54] <AzumaHazuki> well, they're not wrong that we do need a broad-spectrum coronavirus vaccine. if there were such a thing a tremendous amount of productivity would be saved yearly
[05:04:34] <tedious> Yeah no more days at home with a massive cold.
[05:04:52] <AzumaHazuki> this, uh, is the wrong way to go about it. holy spicy sheepshit with extra onions
[05:05:29] <tedious> Yeah let's risk a global catastrophe to make a really expensive cure for the common cold.
[05:05:53] <AzumaHazuki> i suspect this was more than trying to vaccinate againstcolds. this sounds to me like a bioweapon defense initiative
[05:05:55] <tedious> Instead of just making it easier and cheaper for people to eat healthy and have better immune systems.
[05:06:12] <tedious> Yeah well it did involve usamrid right?
[05:06:25] <AzumaHazuki> i suspect so. they did say NIH and CDC
[05:06:43] <AzumaHazuki> some of this explains why the idea for an RNA vaccine was at the forefront of the response
[05:07:12] <AzumaHazuki> mein Gott in Himmel...
[05:08:08] <AzumaHazuki> hmm, Merck is involved cf. 35:20. Why, WHY, am I not surprised?
[05:08:35] <tedious> Yeah march of 2019.
[05:08:41] <tedious> Right after that part.
[05:10:13] <AzumaHazuki> oh, fuck me, they amended patents "in case of deliberate release." how obvious can they get?
[05:10:57] <tedious> Wait until you get to fauci in another minute.
[05:11:35] <AzumaHazuki> i can't say any of this surprises me really. from the start i had a nagging, almost prophetic suspicion that this had been simmering for a long time
[05:11:54] <tedious> I want to know how much money all these corps have made off this.
[05:12:06] <Runaway1956> He keeps saying "it's gonna get worse" -
[05:12:16] <tedious> Yeah and he's right.
[05:12:20] <AzumaHazuki> the dumb thing here is, this actually started off as a noble idea. it's just that cronyism turns everything it touches to shit
[05:12:24] <tedious> I am so mad right now.
[05:12:44] <AzumaHazuki> you and me both. i'm just glad i'm not a nurse, just a pill/IV monkey
[05:12:54] <tedious> "Must be completed by september 2020"
[05:13:03] <tedious> That's the intentional release language.
[05:13:08] <AzumaHazuki> ...
[05:13:09] <tedious> I can't believe this.
[05:13:24] <tedious> 41 minutes in.
[05:13:37] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, i'm at 41:15
[05:13:42] <Runaway1956> 5 June 2008 - isn't that just about the time that the lady scientist in China published her Covid paper? Or am I getting ahead of myself?
[05:15:04] <AzumaHazuki> these fucking lunatics. i'm not even a pharmacist, just a tech, and if someone floated the idea of a viral vector with an ACE2 receptor affinity i'd shout it down. never, never, never, ever mess with haemostasis and blood pressure. the kidneys and lungs are endpoints to that and the entire body is full of vascular endothelium
[05:15:56] <AzumaHazuki> oh my God, the knockon effects of disrupting normal blood pressure and inflammation signalling...
[05:16:43] <Runaway1956> LOL, someone tell 'Zumi that this is Bill Gate's depopulation scheme - he WAS involved in research funding for this
[05:17:01] <AzumaHazuki> the ACE2 receptor is IIRC constitutively expressed. it's everywhere. we still don't understand everything it does
[05:20:15] <AzumaHazuki> This sounds to me like the purpose of this is to get a certain level of immunity to something the military intends to use as a bioweapon in the next large war
[05:21:49] <Runaway1956> Alright, Dr. Martin makes the leap here, about 31 minutes:
[05:22:01] <Runaway1956> It wasn't a lab leak, it was an intentional release of a bioweapon
[05:22:16] <Runaway1956> I'm not sure if I buy into that or not
[05:22:43] <Runaway1956> So many have been predicting a depopulation event, Bill Gates among them - so it's not entirely unbelievable
[05:22:51] <AzumaHazuki> this explains the vaccines' bizarre specificity for a single sub-component of a virus. and it means these nuts seriously didn't think 1) any widespread coronavirus would mutate its spike and/or 2) that tiny changes would cause leakiness (present) or outright vaccine escape (hopefully not the future)
[05:23:18] <Runaway1956> Still - who wants to be the next Stalin, responsible for many millions, or even billions, of dead bodies lying around?
[05:23:46] <tedious> Don't corona viruses mutate their spikes all the time which is why they're such a pain to deal with?
[05:24:14] <AzumaHazuki> yes and no. the spike can only mutate so much before it stops working, i.e., loses the ability to enter through the ACE2 receptor
[05:24:33] <tedious> Runaway1956: I don't think these people care about dead bodies as long as they can get them buried before they start to stink.
[05:24:49] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: That makes sense.
[05:25:16] <AzumaHazuki> i don't think our buddies at DARPA et. al reckoned with the problem with an impractically overspecialized vaccine. were it up to me i'd have put in a partial spike sequence conserved across all variants
[05:26:21] <AzumaHazuki> the computer-heads seriously seem to think or at least implicitly assume that their little science fair project is immutable and controllable
[05:26:43] <tedious> If we can engineer these vaccines based on the sequences of things like spike proteins why can't we just engineer specific protease inhibitors for the exact virus?
[05:27:32] <tedious> Apparently there are a ton of protease inhibitors already that are safe and can be used on specific viruses.
[05:27:33] <AzumaHazuki> my bigger problem with this is, why the sequence of the entire spike? the spike itself is harmful. the lower half of it and a few subunits unique to each variant would make a lot more sense
[05:28:16] <tedious> Well like Runaway1956 said maybe it's because bill gates is funding alot of this research.
[05:28:43] <AzumaHazuki> if i were making a vaccine, i'd have a good half a dozen components of the virus, none of them fully active by themselves, in the mix. if an antibody recognizes only the converved bottom/cup of the spike, that works fine
[05:30:23] <AzumaHazuki> any good pan-coronavirus vaccine is going to have to target the conserved parts of the entire clade, if at all possible
[05:33:01] <AzumaHazuki> odd thing is, empirical data does show that these half-assed vaccines do work. which makes sense, in a roundabout way. they were trying to make a working vaccine...
[05:34:08] <tedious> They work for supressing symptoms but what about actually preventing infection?
[05:34:41] <AzumaHazuki> the vaccine is "leaky" to Delta (and likely Lambda), i.e., it doesn't produce sterilizing immunity
[05:34:48] <tedious> Like he said about fauci's patent applications getting rejected because his vaccines all failed to meet any of the definitions of successful vaccine behavior.
[05:35:03] <tedious> Yeah.
[05:35:04] <AzumaHazuki> so it's less helpful (but still better than no vaccine) in terms of protecting others from delta and lambda
[05:35:46] <tedious> So instead of a vaccine it's a rental plan for paying pfizer every 3 months to not have to go to the hospital.
[05:36:00] <tedious> I hate these people.
[05:36:27] <AzumaHazuki> not exactly. that's what this is going to turn into but i suspect the original idea was "vaccinate everyone, then we can deploy this against the {chinks|sandniggers|aliens|robots|zombies}"
[05:36:55] <tedious> Did you see the report from the NHS where vaccinated people were 5 times more likely to die from the latest variant last month?
[05:37:25] <AzumaHazuki> yes. remember to stratify for age. a 70 year old with two vaccines is in similar danger to a 20 year old with none
[05:37:54] <tedious> Yeah I think your right about the original research but eventually fauci transfered the work to the wuhan lab so I don't understand how it makes sense after that.
[05:38:12] <AzumaHazuki> well, we outsource manufacture of everything else to China...
[05:38:18] <AzumaHazuki> late stage capitalism is a bitch
[05:38:20] <tedious> I mean I understand why he did it to get around the gain of function ban.
[05:38:46] <tedious> But you can't make a useful bioweapon in somebody else's lab right?
[05:38:57] <AzumaHazuki> you can, it just may be useful against you =P
[05:39:32] <AzumaHazuki> see, this is what i meant way back when in my journal about empires being parasites...empires spread, jettison their own internal functions in favor of using their colonies', and eventually...whoopsie, someone outsources "defense"
[05:40:07] <tedious> This doesn't sound like defense to me.
[05:40:16] <AzumaHazuki> hence the scare quotes
[05:40:22] <tedious> It sounds like insane levels of greed and megalomania.
[05:41:01] <AzumaHazuki> that is a fair description of the kind of soul that would even think of this sort of thing. i call it the "wendigo zeitgeist," with apologies to the Algonquins
[05:41:33] <AzumaHazuki> all the times i've been saying that the living will envy the dead in the world these people create, and people just roll their eyes at me...
[05:42:20] <Runaway1956> she got that living envying the dead out of some old book - maybe Revelation of St. John
[05:47:23] <tedious> He says that the sqeuences used for the patents aren't submitted electronically so he had to scan them in from paper in order to search the online databases.
[05:47:30] <tedious> That's shady af.
[05:55:13] <tedious> "This was not a public health crisis this was an opportunistic marketing campaign to addres a stated objective."
[05:55:40] <tedious> Which he says is why they stopped testing for influenza.
[05:55:50] <tedious> And now nobody dies of influenza.
[05:56:41] <AzumaHazuki> well, this neatly ties up a lot of things i had suspected but couldn't prove. i feel better for having seen this
[05:56:48] <tedious> Because influenza shots failed to get enough market penetration to meet big pharma's goals of having the whole world renting their products every month.
[05:56:59] <AzumaHazuki> it means i'm not insane (though i now have to explain how some of the information i have got into my head, sight unseen)
[06:00:30] <AzumaHazuki> okay, so, the optimal plan of action appears to be: 1) get vaccinated, knowing that it's leaky. it still works well. 2) mask up in public for others' sake. 3) lose weight, stop smoking, and get your BP and blood sugars down. 4) thin out your blood a bit if you can. i'd say ask a doctor but they'll look at you like you're nuts
[06:01:11] <Runaway1956> I almost never watch an hour long video - you should feel privileged that I've watched yours tedious
[06:01:21] <AzumaHazuki> ginger tea will do it. fennel seed, Chinese star anise (warning: Japanese SA is poison, know your source!) and white or red pine needles (if you're not sure, don't consume!) tea contain shikimic acid which may help
[06:02:13] <AzumaHazuki> really, this all boils down to "prime your immune system, stay away from the virus, and keep your tubes clear"
[06:04:42] <AzumaHazuki> (again: not a doctor, just a pill monkey, not health advice, not liable for your head exploding or turning into a giant raspberry etc.)
[06:16:06] <tedious> I'm already trying to do all of that except the vaccine.
[06:17:07] <tedious> I didn't trust big pharma very much in 2019 and I think they're basically the devil now.
[06:18:04] <tedious> I would love to see somebody make a vaccine like you suggested but I wouldn't trust it unless it was a local company and they didn't have immunity to being sued.
[06:18:15] <AzumaHazuki> the vaccines work, they're just more of a selfish option now since they're leaky to Delta
[06:18:54] <tedious> Did you see where he talks about the variants being bullshit?
[06:19:33] <tedious> It sounds like nobody is doing full sequences they're just saying that this fragment plus that fragment equals next variant.
[06:20:04] <AzumaHazuki> yes. i am not sure i agree with this; we are seeing different outcomes and differnt transmissibility. speciation, or at least variation, is most definitely occurring
[06:20:16] <AzumaHazuki> as is to be expected
[06:21:06] <tedious> Right but if you can't identify what a patient has with a test then calling it delta or epsilon or whatever is just bs like he said.
[06:21:57] <tedious> Some mom called up her local hospital to ask questions about delta because she wanted to know about what her school board was about to mandate.
[06:22:10] <AzumaHazuki> it's more a problem of trying to create discrete buckets for things that are more continuous, IMO
[06:22:16] <tedious> And they told her that they have no way of testing anything at all involving delta.
[06:22:26] <tedious> It's just covid or not covid.
[06:23:00] <AzumaHazuki> right, because this is a newish virus and it can't mutate too much in too many places before it stops working
[06:23:05] <tedious> Yeah so if there is an actual strain that's new and different from the original strain then somebody should have sequenced it.
[06:23:45] <tedious> So where's the sequence and how is it different from the original sequence from wuhan?
[06:24:09] <tedious> I don't know how the virology works but I know how to diff a text file. :)
[06:24:31] <AzumaHazuki> i wouldn't be at all surprised if what we're seeing here is plain old gene duplication
[06:24:40] <tedious> Anyway I'm suspicious af about everything now but I can't prove any of it myself.
[06:24:57] <AzumaHazuki> coronaviridae are pretty good at keeping their genome intact between replications relative to, say, HIV, but slippages are a thing
[06:25:05] <tedious> I just saw that NHS report and it shows way more vaccinated people dying last month than unvaccinated.
[06:25:20] <AzumaHazuki> again: stratify for age. most of the vaccinated are older adults
[06:25:36] <AzumaHazuki> and peoples' immune response drops off (and comorbidity rises) with age
[06:25:57] <tedious> So I'll stick with the other good health protocols and wait for long term testing on vaccines before I get one.
[06:26:08] <tedious> That makes sense.
[06:26:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Honesty Study to be Retracted over Faked Data - https://sylnt.us - Takes-one-to-know-one
[06:26:27] <AzumaHazuki> the vaccines do work, they just don't work for sterilizing immunity vs what we're calling Delta. it just means that you need a defense in depth plan
[06:31:06] <tedious> What about side effects and ADE?
[06:31:21] <tedious> I have no idea how to mitigate those risks.
[06:32:09] <AzumaHazuki> i can't speak to ADE aside from "hasn't happened to me or anyone i know as of yet." Side effect appear to be extremely rare. have you had side effect from previous vaccines?
[06:33:12] <tedious> Not personally but I saw a graph of the reported deaths in the vaers database and it makes al gore's hockey stick look like a gentle hike up a hill.
[06:33:35] <AzumaHazuki> for the third time: stratify the numbers by age, by comorbidities, etc
[06:33:46] <tedious> In 1 year it goes from less than 300 per year consistently to tens of thousands.
[06:34:09] <AzumaHazuki> which means the virus is mutating
[06:34:33] <tedious> No this is purely reporting vaccine side effects.
[06:35:08] <AzumaHazuki> remember VAERS is unfiltered data
[06:35:31] <tedious> Yeah and it's also estimated to be 1% reporting rate.
[06:35:54] <tedious> So that means hundreds of thousands or millions of people are having adverse reactions.
[06:35:55] <AzumaHazuki> okay, and? that doesn't mean it is. remember there's plenty of disinfo campaigns running too
[06:36:12] <tedious> I don't care about how old they are I don't want to be in that group.
[06:36:23] <AzumaHazuki> if you don't mind me asking, about how old are you?
[06:37:18] <tedious> Probably not much older than you are but I'm not a kid with a kid's immune system so I don't want to increase my risks if I can help it.
[06:38:13] <tedious> IDK if there was a vaccine that didn't come from some megacorp who owns half of congress I would be less worried.
[06:38:17] <AzumaHazuki> i just turned 33 a few weeks ago, so...
[06:38:45] <AzumaHazuki> well, the data we have are showing the risk of vaccines is far, far lower than the risk of going without. the fuckers work, despite all the ratfuckery around them
[06:39:41] <tedious> Ok well I'm going to do as much as I can with the non-vax stuff and try to research the vaxes more in the meantime.
[06:40:09] <AzumaHazuki> i've had two doses of Pfizer, worked around a crapload of covid patients, and never gotten sick yet. so...n=1, but yeah
[06:40:28] <tedious> Runaway1956: If I find another video like that on vax safety I'll let you know and try for 2/2.
[06:40:40] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: That's good to know.
[06:41:16] <AzumaHazuki> everyone is going to be exposed to covid one way or another at this point. it's a fait accompli. we can get it in a smaller, controlled dose that can't replicate, or we can get it wild
[06:42:02] <AzumaHazuki> remember that B and T cells are a thing, too; antibody response drops off after several months but humoral immunity through memory cells persists
[06:42:34] <tedious> Well I've seen lots of ppl talking about how natural immunity is stronger than vax immunity so ideally that's what we want.
[06:42:43] <AzumaHazuki> it's not actually
[06:42:52] <tedious> No?
[06:43:01] <AzumaHazuki> no, which really surprised me
[06:43:03] <tedious> I thought that's what all the data from israel has been showing.
[06:43:25] <AzumaHazuki> i would guess that's because the mRNA vaccines produce nothing but S protein, so the entire immune response is concentrated on those
[06:43:42] <AzumaHazuki> whereas in natural immunity some of the antibodies are focused on useless subunits of the virus
[06:48:08] <tedious> Hmm that makes sense.
[06:49:10] <AzumaHazuki> i am disgusted to the core by this. it's nothing i didn't suspect already, but to someone genuinely in medicine to help people this is almost blasphemous
[06:49:25] <AzumaHazuki> how dare they. god damn it all, how dare they? that is NOT what this knowledge is for!
[06:52:03] <tedious> The worst part to me is how now I realize just how depraved humans can be towards fellow humans.
[06:52:17] <AzumaHazuki> psh...i've known since i was very young, maybe 6 or 7
[06:52:24] <AzumaHazuki> we all have to learn sometime
[06:52:40] <tedious> Like who cares how many millions of people might die if we can sell medicines to healthy people forever?
[06:53:02] <tedious> That phrase never really hit me fully until tonight.
[06:53:17] <AzumaHazuki> this shit is why for-profit medicine is a scourge. this is something all the "butbut MUH FWEE MARKITZ" types willfully refuse to understand
[06:53:28] <tedious> That pharma exec who said vaccines are great because we get to sell medicines to healthy people instead of only sick people.
[06:54:11] <AzumaHazuki> christ, the profit motive turns everything it touches into sharkshit
[06:54:42] <AzumaHazuki> if anyone wonders why i have such barefaced contempt and hostility toward people like crafoo, hallow, jmorris, etc. THIS is why
[06:56:33] <tedious> I don't know where exactly we should draw the line but these megacorps have definitely crossed it by a mile.
[06:57:02] <AzumaHazuki> it's too late. i suspect civilization is on its way out...and that may be for the best in the end
[06:57:10] <AzumaHazuki> i don't fear death.
[07:06:35] <tedious> Have you heard of this former big pharma exec dr. michael yeadon?
[07:07:29] <tedious> I just found another video and it starts with him talking about his 30 year career working for companies like pfizer then starting and selling one of his own.
[07:09:04] <tedious> https://www.rumble.com
[07:09:05] <systemd> ^ 03Dr Michael Yeadon: A FINAL WARNING TO HUMANITY - Rumble ( https://rumble.com )
[07:20:57] <tedious> I can't watch this I'm just going to get mad all over again.
[07:38:30] <FatPhil> calm down - relax and think about having a boxing match with a kangaroo: https://www.statista.com
[07:38:32] <systemd> ^ 03Infographic: Which Animals Could You Beat in a Fight?
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[08:29:08] <tedious> I remember an australian guy punching a kangaroo that was threatening his dog.
[08:29:36] <tedious> I like dogs so I support him 100%.
[08:47:56] <FatPhil> I like kangaroos more
[08:59:07] <FatPhil> =g kangaroo dundee
[08:59:08] <systemd> https://kangaroosanctuary.com - Brolga and Kangaroo Dundee - The Kangaroo Sanctuary
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[09:08:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Paused Starlink Launches to Give its Internet Satellites Lasers - https://sylnt.us - space-lasers-with-optional-sharks
[09:12:06] <FatPhil> oh, well, summer's over, time to upgrade to my chunkyknit jumper, the thin one wasn't warm enough :|
[09:12:34] * chromas gets the jumper cable
[09:41:14] <FatPhil> you're confusing cable knit jumpers and jumper cables
[09:41:29] <FatPhil> I'm a big fan of only one of those
[09:42:29] <FatPhil> what really annoys me is that too much of the world thinks that they're only for women, which is absurd.
[09:43:02] <FatPhil> top 10 hits from startpage for ``cable knit jumper'' have "women's" in the title of the page.
[09:44:49] <chromas> Does it have a trap door for dumping?
[09:50:36] <Runaway1956> 'cable knit jumber' is synonymous with 'bungee jumper'?
[09:50:54] <Runaway1956> Except you use a knitted cable
[09:51:09] <chromas> my knitta
[09:53:14] * Runaway1956 wouldn't wear a jumper, but will wear a sweater when the weather is cool
[09:53:32] <Runaway1956> A proper sweater is made of wool of course
[09:54:08] <chromas> ba-a-a-a-a!
[09:55:25] <boru> Did ewe all really have to make these puns so early in the day?
[09:55:35] <boru> I ram getting sick of it.
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[10:08:02] <raxas> it's high noon. so yes, very early for me... time to coffee
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[10:48:26] <Ingar> what happened to sitting naked at your PC ?
[11:53:00] <FatPhil> not enough beer drinking
[11:56:10] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:56:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5582
[11:56:31] <requerdanos> i had diet mountain dew this morning, yum
[11:59:16] <Bytram> Way back, before I learned to like coffee, I would drink Coca-Cola and thought a 2-Liter bottle was a single-serving container. =)
[11:59:39] * Bytram looks at story queue and groans
[11:59:58] <requerdanos> I am at least down to thinking 1 liter is single serving
[12:00:16] <Bytram> =)
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[12:08:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's Next-Gen James Webb Space Telescope Finally Ready to Ship - https://sylnt.us - Space-telescopes
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[13:06:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oak-Mite Bites: Cicadas may have Left D.C. Region an Itchy Gift - https://sylnt.us - a-gift-that-nobody-wants
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[14:15:50] <FatPhil> So, what Jay 'Brrrrrrr' Powell spouting through his j-hole?
[14:47:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Science Shows Attractiveness Pays Off at Work – But There’s a Trick to Level the Playing Field - https://sylnt.us - confidence++
[14:47:42] <t3> he seemed to be trying to downplay any suggestion of long-term inflation and trying hard not to say much of anything
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[17:35:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Science of Underground Kingdoms - https://sylnt.us
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[18:20:25] <Bytram> !uid
[18:20:25] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 15244, owned by metalgroup
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[20:16:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Imagination Technologies Plans to Design RISC-V Cores - https://sylnt.us
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[21:37:24] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.jpost.com from the good-fibrations? dept.
[21:37:26] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03$15 Drug Gets COVID Patients Off Oxygen Support in Under Week – Study" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:42:13] <Bytram> !uid
[22:42:13] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 15244, owned by metalgroup
[23:06:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - More People are Poisoning Themselves With Horse-Deworming Drug to Thwart COVID - https://sylnt.us - get-the-worm^W-word-out!
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