#soylent | Logs for 2021-08-22
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[00:20:12] <c0lo> https://pbs.twimg.com
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[01:07:54] <c0lo> =submit its-corn-its-good https://thehill.com
[01:07:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Let's Prioritize American Renewable Fuels Over Foreign Oil and Minerals" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:10:53] <c0lo> =submit adb-install-file.apk https://www.businessinsider.com
[01:10:55] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Apple, Google Ordered by Russia to Take Down Navalny App" (7p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:12:10] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
[01:12:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Apple Just Gave Millions of Users a Reason to Quit Their iPhones" (22p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:12:52] <c0lo> =submit https://www.tomshardware.com
[01:12:55] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Tesla Packs 50 Billion Transistors Onto D1 Dojo Chip Designed to Conquer Artificial Intelligence Tra" (32p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[01:17:06] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theverge.com
[01:17:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Facebook Hides Friends Lists on Accounts in Afghanistan as a Safety Measure" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[02:19:08] <Runaway1956> That Facebook article is interesting - do they have any way of protecting users from the $5 wrench approach to hacking their accounts?
[02:20:05] <Runaway1956> Of course, all accounts should be locked down tight by default, not just in countries with regimes that Facebook considers "bad"
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[03:01:47] <c0lo> Best FB account - created, set to max privacy, set with an impossible to remember password that is discarded immediatelly and the account never used.
[03:06:22] <c0lo> Hey, eds/admins - 3AM UTC, no renewal of mod points. Is something stuck on the pipeline?
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[03:37:25] <Runaway1956> OK, here's a Windows 11 strangeness
[03:37:53] <Runaway1956> Instead of installing from installation media, this time I upgraded an existing VBox Win10
[03:38:21] <Runaway1956> That Win10 machine ran awfully sluggish, and I was on the verge of deleting it
[03:38:47] <Runaway1956> After upgrade to Win11 build 132, that machine runs pretty nicely now
[03:39:14] <Runaway1956> The downer is - it immediately starts downloading build 160
[03:39:24] <Runaway1956> I'm going to let it upgrade and see what I have then
[03:40:22] <Runaway1956> Additional strangeness: As a rule, Win11 and Win10 both run better in VMWare than it does in VBox
[03:40:47] <Runaway1956> but, VMWare always fails when trying to upgrade video driver to VM tools
[03:41:20] <Runaway1956> This upgraded Win10 in VBox is using VMWare Guest Additions without a problem
[03:42:44] <Runaway1956> Hey c0lo - check your messages - everybody is banned from moderating, lol
[03:59:44] <t3> I've still got mod points
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[04:14:23] <c0lo> My messages: "You have no messages waiting on the system. Either none have been sent, or they have been deleted or purged from the system, or they have been sent via another delivery method."
[04:15:37] <c0lo> Runaway1956, wait until the first security update, the performance of ant Windoze goes donwhill from there.
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[04:16:26] <c0lo> Any justification for global modban, Runaway1956?
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[04:17:00] <Runaway1956> Basically, everyone who has abused the moderation system appears to be banned
[04:17:22] <Runaway1956> That only leaves five or six moderators I think
[04:18:21] <c0lo> Ummm, that's a bit of funny buggers someone is playing or there's a bug in the "S/N secur... modding patch"
[04:18:44] <SoyCow0856> Some abuses are obvious, but I'm still quite unclear on what constitutes mod abuse
[04:18:48] <t3> maybe the admins finally saw the light, and decided to do away with moderation
[04:19:28] <SoyCow0856> I think there's a tech problem- main page says there are 0 comments in discussions that have many comments
[04:19:33] <c0lo> Maube they saw the light and decided to nuke S/N entirely.
[04:20:01] <SoyCow0856> TMZ time bomb?
[04:20:12] <SoyCow0856> I meant TMB
[04:20:21] <c0lo> If that continues, I'll find hard to find reasons to dwell here.
[04:21:16] <AzumaHazuki> fine by me. i was warning people ages ago this place lost sight of its mission
[04:21:37] <c0lo> TMB should be extatic https://mashable.com
[04:21:38] <systemd> ^ 03OnlyFans' sexually explicit content policy to take effect October 1
[04:22:04] <c0lo> "OnlyFans clarifies new policy: No sex, no 'extreme' genitals. But sure, boobs are fine!" ^^^
[04:23:38] <Runaway1956> I really don't think that boobs are genitalia
[04:23:43] <c0lo> I don't think there was everr a mission except "Buck fetta". Yes, I know, different persons harboured illusions they can drive S/N one direction or another.
[04:24:15] <c0lo> Runaway1956, nobody said that.
[04:25:08] <c0lo> They only said "No extreme genitalia, boobs are fine"
[04:25:21] <Runaway1956> With people like 'Zumi saying the place should burn down if she doesn't approve of it, SN has a hell of a row to hoe
[04:26:15] <c0lo> "Do not upload, post, display, or publish Content on OnlyFans that...shows, promotes, advertises or refers to “sexually explicit conduct”, which means: 1. actual or simulated sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, between persons of any sex; 2. actual or simulated masturbation; 3. any exhibition of the anus or genitals of any person which is extreme or offensive; 4. actual
[04:26:25] <c0lo> Drooling is fine, then.
[04:27:20] <Runaway1956> *sigh* VMWare Update Helper does not exit gracefully when finished . . .
[04:28:12] <c0lo> =submit the-we-all-go https://gizmodo.com
[04:28:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Whopping 94% of Adults in England Have Covid-19 Antibodies" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:28:37] <c0lo> (fuck. It's "there-we-all-go")
[04:28:43] <Runaway1956> That's how you build herd immunity - everyone has the antibodies
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[04:29:18] <c0lo> Not quite herd immunity if the antibodies don't guarantee reinfection with a variant.
[04:29:41] <Runaway1956> Didn't say they had reached it yet, only said that's how it's built
[04:30:47] <Runaway1956> AIDS immunity in Africa is becoming a thing, but they aren't there yet either - it takes a couple generations
[04:30:48] <c0lo> I don't think that immunity is an achievable end. Covid-19 as a variant of common seasonal cold is more likely.
[04:31:57] <AzumaHazuki> yyyup
[04:31:58] <c0lo> You'll still take covid-19 once a year or every 2, take an aspirin and calll in sick for 3 days and that's that.
[04:32:03] <AzumaHazuki> sooner the better, too
[04:32:09] <AzumaHazuki> fuck this fucking disease
[04:32:32] <Runaway1956> and life will go on and on
[04:33:15] <c0lo> 3-4 vaccines, last 2 mix-and-match style and one should be prepared enough to get the real deal.
[04:35:02] <Runaway1956> Here I go, one more time
[04:35:08] <Runaway1956> https://www.raymond.cc
[04:35:09] <systemd> ^ 03Add or Remove Windows Features Via Command Prompt or PowerShell
[04:35:43] <c0lo> (ich... windows hardcore porn)
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[04:36:19] <t3> are you a masochist or something runaway? why are you doing this to yourself
[04:37:37] <c0lo> t3, I suspect something on this line https://www.youtube.com
[04:37:41] <systemd> ^ 03Johnny Cash - Hurt (Official Music Video)
[04:38:05] <Runaway1956> t3 - one day in the not distant future, the wife's old machine is going to crap out
[04:38:16] <Runaway1956> she will probably insist on staying with windows
[04:38:26] <Runaway1956> I need to know how this crap works
[04:38:50] <t3> I suppose that makes sense
[04:38:52] <Runaway1956> I've already given a thought or two to replacing her machine, it's getting to be a pain
[04:39:33] <Runaway1956> Hopefully, by the time it dies, I can find an Enterprise edition of Win11 - it's a helluva lot easier to administer
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[04:41:29] <c0lo> Installing Windows for charity. Taking care of people with computer use disabilities.
[04:53:28] <c0lo> Coming back to the lack of mod points. I realized that I did not receive the message/report about the history of my mods for yesterday.
[04:53:43] <c0lo> Have anyone here got it?
[04:54:02] <Runaway1956> lemme look - I'm not sure
[04:54:43] <Runaway1956> nope, it isn't there
[04:54:53] <c0lo> It may well be that the bastardized S/N crond is stuck, on strike or dead.
[04:56:01] <Runaway1956> sent by SoylentNews Message System on 19:05 20th August, 2021
[04:56:07] <Runaway1956> that's the last one I got
[04:56:17] <c0lo> Thanks, Runaway1956.
[04:56:28] <Runaway1956> np
[04:56:48] <c0lo> Admins may need to look into it when they are woke enough (grin)
[04:58:44] <c0lo> If the crond bastard is MiA, the next story scheduled in pending will stay there too.
[04:59:09] <c0lo> Past the hour is was scheduled.
[05:00:31] <c0lo> https://thehill.com
[05:00:32] <systemd> ^ 03Arizona Senate must release election audit records: court
[05:05:47] <c0lo> =submit use-marble-next https://news.mit.edu
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[05:05:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Countering Climate Change With Cool Pavements" (35p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:08:12] <c0lo> =submit doi-10.1038/s41598-021-92611-3 https://en.nagoya-u.ac.jp
[05:08:17] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Under the Northern Lights: Mesospheric Ozone Layer Depletion Explained" (36p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:09:51] <Runaway1956> https://thehill.com
[05:09:51] <systemd> ^ 03How abandoned strip mines are being rescued by a field of sweet-smelling purple plants
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[05:13:36] <c0lo> Is that one with lavender farms, Runaway1956?
[05:14:06] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I found it on the link you posted above
[05:14:46] <Runaway1956> They need to find more crops that will grow in abandoned mines, IMO
[05:14:57] <Runaway1956> hemp would probably like it in many mines
[05:15:37] <Runaway1956> any nitrogen-fixing plant should like the mines as well
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[05:16:36] <c0lo> submit doi-10.1029/2020GL092198 the-moon-getting-a-suntan-too https://nau.edu
[05:16:37] <systemd> ^ 03Here comes the Sun: NAU planetary scientists find evidence of solar-driven change on the Moon
[05:17:12] <Runaway1956> Also, found a Youtuber who exposes how computer vendors are cheating on memory, driven by the chip shortage
[05:17:23] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[05:17:26] <systemd> ^ 03The Dirty Way Manufacturers are Downgrading Your PC
[05:18:03] <c0lo> Unfortunately not so, Runaway1956. Few plant species are insensitive to heavy metals and even fewer thrive in such soils.
[05:18:16] <c0lo> =g phytomining
[05:18:17] <systemd> https://www.nytimes.com - Down on the Farm That Harvests Metal From Plants - The New York ...
[05:18:54] <c0lo> =submit https://grist.org
[05:18:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scientists are Mining Metals From an Unusual Source" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:20:27] <c0lo> =w phytomining
[05:20:27] <systemd> above 100 μM·kg−1 dry weight. Mining of these extracted metals through phytomining, is a conceivable way of recovering the material. Hyperaccumulating plants - https://en.wikipedia.org
[05:35:04] <kyonko> I wonder what reading the TLDP feels like on LSD
[05:35:08] <kyonko> under lynx
[05:36:28] <t3> very difficult with backlit screens
[05:36:43] <t3> the lights slides off like raindrops
[05:36:58] <c0lo> Runaway1956, yes, hemp is one that tolerates heavy metals. To the point that anything obtained from such crops are ove the current acceptance levels: https://www.sciencedirect.com
[05:36:59] <systemd> ^ 03Industrial hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) growing on heavy metal contaminated soil: fibre quality and phytoremediation potential
[05:37:26] <c0lo> s/ove/above/
[05:37:26] <SedBot> <c0lo> Runaway1956, yes, hemp is one that tolerates heavy metals. To the point that anything obtained from such crops are above the current acceptance levels: https://www.sciencedirect.com
[05:37:35] <t3> most nightshades like heavy metals too, and brassicas
[05:38:30] <Ellenor> :/
[05:38:49] <kyonko> seems like nature doesn't like us
[05:38:54] <kyonko> especially: outer space
[05:39:04] <kyonko> but don't tell that to creationists
[05:40:22] <Ellenor> ye
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[05:51:36] * c0lo chuckles https://www.newsweek.com
[05:52:38] <AzumaHazuki> fucking LOL
[05:52:46] <AzumaHazuki> this monster he created is turning on him
[05:53:47] <c0lo> DeSantis will beat Trump's popularity, Trump's election funds will not go to DeSantis.
[05:56:02] <AzumaHazuki> they can all go to hell
[06:01:48] <Ellenor> fuckety fuck
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[06:06:37] <c0lo> https://thehill.com
[06:06:37] <systemd> ^ 03Over 23K students, staff forced to quarantine in Atlanta metro area
[06:07:05] <c0lo> Moar gaming time
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[06:19:01] <t3> =submit https://www.thedrive.com
[06:19:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Radio Transmissions From Police Helicopter's Chase of Bizarre Craft Over Tucson Add to Mystery" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:25:41] <c0lo> Yeap, crond bastard is dead. The #comments on front page is not updated, no auto messages been sent, no mod points provided for the day.
[06:25:59] <c0lo> Any admin/editor awake yet?
[06:55:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Japan Tests Rotating Detonation Engine in Space for the First Time - https://sylnt.us - future-deep-space-exploration
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[07:05:19] <TheMightyChickadee> TMC, in the house!
[07:16:21] <TheMightyChickadee> The solution to the moderation drama is, no one gets mod points? Seems fair. Probably will make no difference. The same shitposters will drive people away, regardless of whether they are modded down , or not.l
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[07:18:18] <FatPhil> are you bitter?
[07:18:26] <FatPhil> or just salty?
[07:18:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Baidu Announces Upgraded Baidu Brain 7.0 and Mass Production of 2nd Generation Kunlun AI Chip - https://sylnt.us
[07:50:45] <TheMightyChickadee> Dry hopped?
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[08:08:16] <c0lo> bytram, from one QA to another, where S/N issue tracker and how frequent is it observed?
[08:35:03] <janrinok> c0lo, yes, I'm here
[08:35:59] <janrinok> I was busy elsewhere on the site
[08:37:43] <janrinok> c0lo, I cannot off the top of my recall the link to the bug tracker but it might not have been looked at recently because we have no DevOps team. It is another job that one of us will have to pick up.
[09:08:52] <c0lo> DevOps team not required, an issue tracker worked just fine on the times on waterfall. It's serves: 1. as a way to signal issues when nobody is around 2. keep a history of what happened over time. You may get to see some paterns where otherwise you perceive them in isolation
[09:09:50] <c0lo> In any case, from your answer I assume you aren't activelly using one, is my assumption correct, janrinok?
[09:10:37] <janrinok> Yes, thanks, but it was their job to look at it frequently - now somebody else will have to pick up that task. Yes, we are using one but I'm a bit busy at present. Can I search for it in a while for you please?
[09:11:04] <c0lo> Not in a hurry, take your time.
[09:11:21] <c0lo> Take it just as a question.
[09:11:48] <janrinok> stumbled upon it: https://github.com
[09:11:49] <systemd> ^ 03Issues · SoylentNews/rehash
[09:12:30] <c0lo> janrinok++, thanks.
[09:12:53] <c0lo> janrinok++
[09:12:53] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 75
[09:15:05] <FatPhil> janrinok++
[09:15:05] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 76
[09:22:59] <c0lo> When someone in the editorial team have some time, may the one can look and explain why am I missing the today's mod points? I had no explanatory message, I suspect a bug somewhere.
[09:24:52] <janrinok> c0lo, sorry, I'm being dim. Do you mean have haven't received any mod points, or you cannot see how you're being moderated?
[09:30:05] <c0lo> Once the crond was restarted (I assume), I got all the pending message (and the comment# on the front page got updated and all good).
[09:30:26] <c0lo> I haven't received the 10 mod points for today.
[09:36:06] <janrinok> I've got mine but I suspect that we are logged on at different times. I didn't even know crond might have been restarted. Has the sites had problems 'overnight' (in my time)
[09:41:18] <janrinok> Nobody here I can ask at the moment. I'll point Martyb at the issue as soon as he appears, but that might not be for a while yet.
[09:42:10] <c0lo> There was all the signs of crond being stuck. Messages not sent, summaries a prev day mods not generated, the number of comments for each story in front page stuck at 0.
[09:42:49] <janrinok> JFYI - the Issues webpage link is in the bottom left of the left hand side sub-menus on the site's front page.
[09:42:55] <c0lo> Since I saw everything falling in place, I **assumed** someone restarted chrond.
[09:43:08] <janrinok> not me.....?!
[09:43:38] <chromas> still no mod points?
[09:44:06] <janrinok> there is nobody on the sysops side active at the moment. I haven't got the powers to give you modpoints - Martyb might be able to do that.
[09:44:07] <chromas> looks like the comment counts are correct, so rehashd should be running
[09:44:26] * chromas gives c0lo 60,000,000,000 points
[09:44:42] <janrinok> stingy!
[09:46:35] <c0lo> I have no means to reach an explanation for why the things got back to normal after at least 3 hours.
[09:47:14] <chromas> but do you have the points?
[09:47:23] <chromas> or is everything except points working?
[09:48:09] <janrinok> c0lo, no neither have I
[09:48:13] <chromas> oh I see an "I haven't received the 10 mod points" after the rest being normal
[09:48:20] <chromas> I've got ten points and I thought I used a few yesterday
[09:48:41] <c0lo> I don't have mod points and I'm raring to mod Runaway1956
[09:48:51] <janrinok> I think I have had mine, but I have already been modding this morning
[09:49:16] <janrinok> c0lo, not vindictively of course......
[09:49:37] <c0lo> Was I ever...?
[09:50:27] <janrinok> no, no, of course not - but you mentioned the user rather than what had been said ;)
[09:51:01] <c0lo> In case you are interested of what was said: https://soylentnews.org
[09:51:02] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | On leadership, authority, double-down and bluff calling
[09:52:21] <janrinok> I have not received the daily emails from SN either - so a problem with crond is looking more likely
[09:53:12] <Ingar> it's punishment for not using systemd timers
[09:55:06] <janrinok> welcome Ingar - I'm not sure that your contribution has helped solve our problem, but it is always good to get a systemd war going early on a Sunday
[09:55:42] <Ingar> my pleasure janrinok
[09:58:41] <c0lo> Almost 20:00, you are terrible late inthe day.
[10:00:11] <janrinok> I can't help it if you live in a country where everything is trying to kill you!
[10:00:43] <Ingar> you can ask one of our C-130s to pick you up in Kabul
[10:01:11] <c0lo> Me livng here is not a problem. You waking up that late is...
[10:01:35] <Ingar> c0lo: maybe I have the nightwatch today ;)
[10:01:35] * janrinok feels himself nodding of again
[10:01:50] <Runaway1956> https://pine64.com
[10:01:52] <systemd> ^ 03PINEPHONE - Beta Edition with Convergence Package Linux SmartPhone - PINE STORE
[10:04:29] <c0lo> Interesting. Based on the spec, I don't dare to expect more than a low performance smart mobile, but the price is reasonable.
[10:05:11] <Runaway1956> I've watched a few videos on youtube - it's not real fast, but it's Linux, and doesn't really need to be fast
[10:05:24] <Runaway1956> it's not running gobs of spyware in the background
[10:06:49] <Runaway1956> Don't really know which OS I want to run on it, each choice seems to have advantages and disadvantages
[10:07:19] <Runaway1956> Probly manjaro, maybe
[10:08:16] <c0lo> I might try one from curiosity, I don't find much use even for a normal spec-ed phone running Android. If a didn't need one for a 2FA vpn-ing inthe office network, I would still use a Nokia "feature" phone.
[10:08:44] <c0lo> s/If a/If I/
[10:08:44] <SedBot> <c0lo> I might try one from curiosity, I don't find much use even for a normal spec-ed phone running Android. If I didn't need one for a 2FA vpn-ing inthe office network, I would still use a Nokia "feature" phone.
[10:09:01] <Runaway1956> pretty much the same here - except the last feature phone I messed with was 100% googlified
[10:09:15] <Runaway1956> couldn't even use it until you created a google account
[10:12:25] <c0lo> Bottom line, something like this would do https://auspost.com.au
[10:12:27] <systemd> ^ 03Telstra Lite 2 4G Push Button Mobile Phone
[10:26:42] <c0lo> =submit open-doi-10.1038/s41467-021-25054-z https://phys.org
[10:26:47] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Researchers Open a Path Toward Quantum Computing in Real-world Conditions" (23p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:27:19] <c0lo> All the quantum computers until now were working in virtual world conditions,right?
[10:29:29] <c0lo> Runawy1956, looking on the specs of that PINE, it comes with manjaro already.
[10:29:49] <chromas> models with rats instead of inner city projects
[10:30:27] <Runaway1956> Yes, it comes with manjaro, but you can download other images, put it on a drive, and boot to it
[10:30:49] <chromas> pffft! doesn't even haz java
[10:32:17] <Runaway1956> micro SD supports SDHC and SDXC up to 2TB - that's roomy!
[10:33:28] <Runaway1956> I can live with a full fledged OS living on 240 GB - prefer 500 GB - and of course all my "stuff" lives on the RAID
[10:46:30] <c0lo> Pugs have a problem: sowing doubt in the election serves dems so, an interesting development https://www.newsweek.com
[10:46:31] <systemd> ^ 03"Stay the hell out": Georgia official warns Marjorie Taylor Greene as election probe begins
[10:50:45] <c0lo> chromas, about those missing mod points, any idea yet? Restarting chrond maybe? 'cause I don't believe I'm that unlucky that is only me missing them. And the others may start thinking it's sinister.
[10:51:44] <c0lo> (or maybe it's dexter)
[11:09:37] <janrinok> c0lo, no there are other indications of a problem but I am not in a position to be able to do anything about them.
[11:10:45] <c0lo> janrinok, have you restarted chrond?
[11:11:03] <c0lo> I mean, it won't hurt
[11:11:18] <janrinok> I can't - but Martyb is just appearing
[11:12:27] <Bytram> c0lo: I'm looking into things right now. Oh, and good morning!
[11:12:28] <c0lo> Ah, OK. Sorry, I think I forgot you already told me it's only bytram that can do something. Apologies.
[11:14:08] <janrinok> c0lo, I have the minimum access commensurate with the jobs I am expected to do - just the way it should be
[11:15:06] <c0lo> Yeah, nah, janrinok all good. A tiresome weenend for me, my only excuse.
[11:15:48] <janrinok> no excuse necessary
[11:18:43] <c0lo> good morning to you too, bytram. I'll have my dinner and go to a good sleep knowing I let my worries in good hands.
[11:19:05] <janrinok> cruel but fair
[11:20:57] <c0lo> Oh, far from cruel. just teasing.
[11:46:35] <c0lo> And, with this, I wish you all a good night after a wonderful day or just the afternoon as the case may be.
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[11:59:09] <FatPhil> Ahhhh, Eesti Post claim the registered delivery of my old passport to the UK passport office took place 3 days ago. Her Majesty's Passport Office application progress portal still insist that I must send my old passport. Probably best if I just apply for refugee status before those cheeky Afghans get ahead of me in the queue.
[12:01:05] <janrinok> or pretend to be an Afghan and get the extra benefits too - difficult decision.....
[12:01:45] <FatPhil> Yeah, but I wouldn't want to be targetted by the local mostly-peaceful Shia population.
[12:02:40] <FatPhil> Seen Blair's hypocrisy in the news about the pull-out? Fuck me, that guy should hang.
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[13:38:22] <raxas> Sending passport by mail? That's crazy, on this planet. Crazy even if expired. This is exactly what embassy (or consulate) is for.
[13:40:45] <janrinok> and how do you get it to the embassy or consulate?
[13:42:12] <raxas> walk in
[13:45:25] <janrinok> So, for example, I would have to travel a round trip of 1000km to hand in my passport. Not the most practical method in my opinion....
[13:46:13] <janrinok> Nope, I send mine by registered delivery mail.
[13:47:50] <janrinok> FatPhil, of course if it was delivered on Thursday or Friday it wouldn't even be processed over the weekend and is still sitting in a mail bag in the UK Passport office.
[13:51:32] <raxas> that's strange priorities
[13:53:09] <janrinok> it's registered delivery so is tracked all the way, and if the postal service lose it that is their problem. I've not know registered delivery to go missing, normal mail maybe, but not tracked and registered.
[13:53:34] <janrinok> *not known
[14:00:02] <raxas> =submit (combine with next subs) https://phys.org
[14:00:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Secret of the Stradivari Violin Confirmed" (23p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:00:14] <raxas> =submit http://www.sci-news.com
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[14:00:31] <raxas> =submit https://www.dailymail.co.uk
[14:02:44] <raxas> lazybot
[14:04:13] <janrinok> Thank you - having multiple sources for a single story makes our job much easier.
[14:07:13] <raxas> =submit 9.8/10 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[14:07:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Cisco Won’t Fix Zero-day RCE Vulnerability in End-of-life VPN Routers" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:11:15] <FatPhil> janrinok: arrival at 07:25 should give them *some* time to process things. In particular as the reference code for the application is on the front of the envelope - as soon as they see it they know what to do with it. But if beurocracy was efficient would be efficient we wouldn't need so much of it, and that would be bad for the bureaucrats, so they'll never permit that.
[14:12:56] <FatPhil> 10 weeks they say it could take to process. Zola Budd got citizenship quicker than that when the Olympics were looming.
[14:13:43] <janrinok> exactly, As far as ZB is concerned, have you tried running a bit and wearing a skirt?
[14:14:45] <FatPhil> I really don't like being without my passport, I can't reliably travel just using my ID card. (Apparently Schengen is something that only happens for other people)
[14:15:38] <janrinok> Perhaps they are using the logic that Britain rejected Schengen, you are British, ergo......
[14:20:10] <janrinok> I wouldn't like to be without my passport either, but I should be receiving my carte de sejour before the end of the year so I will have an alternative ID should I need one.
[14:20:27] <FatPhil> UK gets none of my taxes an more. I'm propping up *this* system. Gonna start throwing earl grey into the harbour!!!
[14:20:40] <janrinok> lol
[14:51:08] <inz> Viskad Hall jarl vette
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[17:56:42] <FatPhil> https://www.telegraph.co.uk
[17:56:43] <systemd> ^ 03Taliban ‘set woman on fire for bad cooking’ as protesters beaten in brutal reprisals
[17:57:21] <AzumaHazuki> jesus fuck
[18:26:01] <t3> if they would just burn men and women, then everyone would ignore them like myanmar
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[19:54:23] <FatPhil> erm, remember boko?
[19:55:13] <chromas> boko halal?
[19:59:31] <FatPhil> boko hashish
[19:59:43] <FatPhil> beaucoup hamami
[19:59:54] <FatPhil> put that in your linguistics box
[20:00:12] <FatPhil> https://warontherocks.com
[20:00:13] <systemd> ^ 03Boko Haram and the Kidnapping of Women: A Troubled Tactic - War on the Rocks
[20:02:42] <FatPhil> just watched: https://www.imdb.com pretty good, kinda a horror without the horror
[20:02:45] <systemd> ^ 03Resolution (2012) - IMDb
[20:03:49] <FatPhil> we watched its "sequel", /The Endless/ a month or so back, but we weren't too spoilt by doing them in that way round.
[20:04:30] <FatPhil> The Endless, without the "spoilers" this gives, was a wonderful piece of cinema.
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[21:45:45] <bytram_phone> any staff here?
[21:46:59] <bytram_phone> it looks like the story comment counts are not updating.
[21:48:44] <bytram_phone> need to bounce the servers
[21:50:52] <bytram_phone> on boron, chdir to my bin subdir and run ./bounce
[21:52:13] <bytram_phone> can't remember... I might be martyb or bytram on boron.
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[22:47:32] <chromas> rebooted varnish and apache; no page updates yet
[23:30:03] <t3> hn thread about ebikes is really depressing... putting motors on bikes to go slower than when I just pedal normally
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