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[23:53:59] <Bytram> I apologize. I came across much stronger than intended.
[23:53:04] <Bytram> My work for them was back in '97, and they were known to be exorbitantly expensive even back then.
[23:51:45] <Bytram> FatPhil: By "stinky eye", I was trying (and failing) to recall Spock's single raised eyebrow of "Oh, really?" -- more in jest than any true approbation.
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[22:11:48] <FatPhil> I was just going to add that the commercial rights holders for F1 have been evil fucks who've attempted to ruin the sport for at least 15 years anyway, so long before I gave up my telly.
[22:08:53] <requerdanos> vipbox.tv carries f1 streams live I think
[22:06:30] <FatPhil> And that wouldn't even include proper British BBC, only the insanely crappy international one.
[22:05:51] <FatPhil> Bytram: the only way I could get F1 is if I paid for 200 channels almost all of which are in the wrong language. Blame them for making it such terrible value for money.
[21:26:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ‘They Said We Were Eccentrics’: the UK Team Developing Clean Aviation Fuel - https://sylnt.us - the-Hindenberg-steam-engine-crossbreed
[21:26:37] <Bytram> post meal "sleepies" are taking over; biab
[21:24:40] * Bytram used to work on a project for F1 broadcasting, at the race venues, in their on-site digital broadcast facilities
[21:23:06] * Bytram raises a stinky eyebrow at FatPhil
[21:22:07] <chromas> then just bring ipv6 into the mix
[21:21:59] <chromas> unless they compare IPs
[21:21:47] <chromas> Maybe cheat a little
[21:12:03] <FatPhil> 90% of F1 races we watch at home via torrents, and we use a private tracker where ratios are important. Alas, our pipe is 1/10th of the size of everyone else (if not less), so we're looking like bad guys even though we're trying to contribute.
[19:56:13] <Bytram> that kinda tells you how long it has been since I last used a torrent =)
[19:56:06] <inz> My upload ratio is 0, is that good
[19:53:26] <chromas> back when it was good software. nobody should use µtorrent anymore though
[19:53:01] <chromas> µ
[19:52:18] <Bytram> worked about a decade ago when I was on windows and last used a torrent ... uTorrent(sp?)
[19:46:40] <Runaway1956> Maybe you can, I've never looked at it
[19:46:23] <Bytram> can't you just edit your local copy of your stats-tracking file?
[19:46:20] <Runaway1956> Uh-huh - something like that
[19:45:41] <chromas> you'd need two accounts
[19:45:29] <chromas> Might be good for using private trackers that want you to keep a decent upload ratio
[19:43:30] <Runaway1956> best to use a rather large file, it uploads small files faster than you can paste them into the guest machine
[19:42:57] <Runaway1956> your host will "upload" the file to your guest, and upload ratio goes up fast
[19:42:33] <Runaway1956> copy magnet link from host torrent client into guest torrent client
[19:42:12] <Runaway1956> just fire up a virtual machine with access to local network
[19:41:53] <Runaway1956> if you torrent, and you care about your upload ratio
[19:41:39] <Runaway1956> Oh, I discovered an evil trick for my own purposes
[19:40:12] <systemd> ^ 03Beavis and Butthead Cornhole Set with Bags
[19:40:10] <AzumaHazuki> https://customcornhole.com things i didn't know i needed, pt. 1
[19:39:43] <systemd> https://www.merriam-webster.com - What Does 'TFW' Mean? | TFW Slang Definition | Merriam-Webster
[19:39:42] <Bytram> =g TFW
[19:38:42] <AzumaHazuki> TFW the Onion is probably closer to reality than the actual news
[19:38:32] <systemd> ^ 03Show-And-Tell Marred By Every Child Bringing Ashes Of Relative Who Died Of Covid
[19:38:31] <AzumaHazuki> https://www.theonion.com
[19:38:28] <Bytram> growth sounds good =)
[19:37:53] <AzumaHazuki> this is apparently a new sort of position for this company since they started as a small family business ~45 years ago and have seen massive growth over the last 5
[19:37:51] <Bytram> Runaway1956: right now, only once per year so I can do my income taxes
[19:37:40] <Runaway1956> note that DISM works on live systems, not just on installation media
[19:37:29] <AzumaHazuki> yes thanks :) i have a lot of competition but it sounds like the others aren't experienced
[19:37:04] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: WB. Hope the interview went well!
[19:36:45] <Runaway1956> That might be useful to people who run Windows on laptops - like maybe Bytram
[19:35:50] <systemd> ^ 03Enable or Disable Windows Features Using DISM
[19:35:49] <Runaway1956> https://docs.microsoft.com
[19:35:41] <Runaway1956> Not starting now, but my next project is to play around with DISM, and see how much crap I can strip out of the Win11 installer
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[19:31:59] <Runaway1956> That long? Wow, guess I'm not very observant
[19:26:27] <Bytram> you are only about a month late. ;)
[19:24:32] <Runaway1956> ah-ha
[19:22:26] <Bytram> Yes, TheMightyBuzzard left on 2021-07-22 (actually, it was his ZNC bouncer that left)
[19:14:27] <Runaway1956> Oh, I notice that the ghost of TheMightyBuzzard has finally left
[19:11:19] <Runaway1956> There's not much to be happy about in Win11 though, lol
[19:11:17] <Bytram> lunchtime
[19:11:02] <Bytram> hth
[19:10:57] <Bytram> =)
[19:10:45] <Runaway1956> that's the page alright Bytram
[19:10:31] <systemd> https://hexchat.github.io - Downloads – HexChat
[19:10:30] <Bytram> =g hexchat windows 10
[19:10:30] <Runaway1956> redirects are not good
[19:10:21] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I guess I'm figuring that out chromas - to me, clicking any download link should go to a direct download
[19:10:10] <systemd> https://portableapps.com - HexChat Portable (customizable IRC client) | PortableApps.com
[19:10:09] <Bytram> =g hexchat windows 11
[19:08:07] <chromas> app means store
[19:08:02] <chromas> notice it says "App"
[19:07:48] <chromas> the actual link is to the ms store
[19:07:40] <chromas> that's not a redirect
[19:06:26] <Runaway1956> same behaviour in both host and guest machine
[19:05:39] <Runaway1956> to be fair, the link I was clicking is labeled 'Windows 10 App'
[19:05:11] <Runaway1956> Choosing the Windows 7+ 64 bit installed does a direct download though, so maybe it's not total evil?
[19:02:32] <t3> that's concerning
[19:02:01] <Runaway1956> redirected to Microsoft Store
[19:01:50] <Runaway1956> Huh - did the exact same thing inside of host operating system, MX Linux
[19:00:17] <Runaway1956> That's interesting, I just kinda assumed the redirect was on github
[18:57:16] <systemd> ^ 03BUG: Python can redirect to Windows Store
[18:57:15] <t3> might be related to this: https://github.com
[18:57:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Drone Delivery is Live Today, and It’s 90% Cheaper than Car-Based Services - https://sylnt.us - what-about-snow,-rain,-heat,-or-gloom-of-night?
[18:54:06] <Runaway1956> Where else are there redirects?
[18:53:30] <Runaway1956> I think that sucks diseased ass. WTF am I being redirected to MS Store?
[18:52:53] <Runaway1956> Went to github to download it, and got redirected to the Microsoft Store
[18:52:33] <Runaway1956> I've been playing with virtual machines - wanted to install Hexchat on Microsoft 11
[18:51:58] <Runaway1956> Da ebils of da Microsoft
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[16:25:45] <AzumaHazuki> thanks :) am about to go
[16:23:46] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: good luck with the interview if it's not happened yet
[16:17:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hoo’s There? Citizen Scientists Needed to Identify Australian Owl Calls - https://sylnt.us - sounds-like-a-hoot
[15:43:25] <Teckla> Oh woe is me, no coffee today :(
[15:36:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Heist Team Allegedly Stole $691,100 From Drug Dealer by Using an Apple Watch as a Tracker" (4p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:36:05] <c0lo> =submit intelligence-is-not-wisdom https://www.gizmodo.com.au
[15:35:04] <SedBot> <c0lo> FatPil, I see. The alternative I was thinking was going on the line of "Look, Sean thought of me even on the death bed! I'm not a nobody"
[15:35:04] <c0lo> s/were g/was g/
[15:34:45] <c0lo> FatPil, I see. The alternative I was thinking were going on the line of "Look, Sean thought of me even on the death bed! I'm not a nobody"
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[15:05:09] <FatPhil> c0lo: I think twatface was just just saying that he respected sean's work, even if it wasn't reciprocated.
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[14:43:10] <c0lo> =submit https://www.bbc.com
[14:35:43] <systemd> ^ 03Please Wait... | Cloudflare
[14:35:43] <c0lo> https://www.middleeasteye.net
[14:22:38] <c0lo> Ummm... as someone with better chances to translate it for non-brits, was that an "Yes" FatPhil? https://pbs.twimg.com
[13:25:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Life Defined in Terms of Information Flow - https://sylnt.us - IT-is-everywhere
[13:06:33] <c0lo> pending stories queue is empty.
[12:15:08] <systemd> ^ 03Man loses toes after stepping on crocodile's head south of Darwin - ABC News
[12:15:06] <c0lo> (groan) we need tourists. The crocodiles are starving and started to nibble on our toes https://www.abc.net.au
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[11:55:22] <c0lo> =submit https://www.ajudaily.com
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[11:35:55] <c0lo> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[11:35:06] <boru> Youtube for prostitutes, I suppose you might call it.
[11:34:48] <boru> As in have become a multi-millionaire after a year or so.
[11:34:31] <boru> Some people are doing well from it, I've read.
[11:33:35] <boru> But it's essentially a sex/pornography for money site, I believe.
[11:33:12] <boru> From what I've read about the site, it seems to be more what-can-i-get-people-to-pay-for sort of thing. Legality will vary country by country, I suppose.
[11:33:03] <systemd> ^ 03'Heil Fauci!': Vaccine passports compared to Nazis in California public hearing
[11:33:02] <c0lo> This has to be the most unhinged 3mins of interpretation of something. I'd rather be forced to listen death metal https://www.newsweek.com
[11:32:55] <inz> Maybe there's a loophole, if the revenue comes through ads, and the service would be free.
[11:32:10] <inz> The legality might be an issue though.
[11:31:50] <inz> I was thinking along boru's lines.
[11:31:44] <FatPhil> like about 99% of the modern internet, I haven't got a clue what it is!
[11:30:48] <FatPhil> I thought it was just camwhores
[11:30:12] <boru> AIUI, that's more of a prostitution service.
[11:29:20] <c0lo> For the amateurs, there's already fansonly or onlyfans or something.
[11:28:56] <FatPhil> Jerk - with two levels of service. Jerk-online for those who need MaaS on-the-go, and Jerk-offline for those who need a more flexible jerkoff.
[11:28:41] <boru> Oracle already exist.
[11:26:32] <inz> Masturbation as a Service?
[11:26:22] <FatPhil> Download the new PARP app for all your Farting as a Service needs.
[11:25:42] <FatPhil> just think of something that everybody does, append "as a service", and come up with a short, catchy, and dumb company name. Sorted!
[11:24:49] <FatPhil> startup your own startup instead
[11:11:13] <inz> I will never get a job at a sexy startup.
[11:07:57] <FatPhil> heresy!
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[10:54:03] <inz> The real solution would've been to go for simpler websites
[10:53:49] <inz> HTTP2&3 are trying to solve the wrong problem.
[10:30:27] <c0lo> https://i.redd.it
[10:27:25] <c0lo> Including the HTTP2/3 civil war with http 1.1?
[10:22:49] <FatPhil> how many civil wars are they up to now? I've lost count.
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[10:01:02] <boru> What a mistake the web was.
[09:59:53] <inz> HTTP/3 is dumping TCP altogether
[09:59:31] <inz> Actually HTTP/3 is more like over QUIC, but that doesn't sound as good.
[09:59:02] <inz> Surprisingly, yes.
[09:58:37] <boru> Is this more google shite?
[09:58:14] <inz> HTTP/2 was SPDY, HTTP/3 is QUIC
[09:53:34] <boru> Turns out http3 is the problem. Wtf is http3, I wonder.
[09:31:23] <boru> On an unrelated note, who said that rust was secure... I updated firefox, and it just segfaults now in libxul. Backtrace indicates a bunch of rust crap.
[09:30:59] <c0lo> The Talibans just moved now to occupy a power vaccum. It won't go uncontested.
[09:30:28] <boru> Civil war is probably a certainty, yes.
[09:30:17] <boru> And yeah, I think the incessant US incursion into the region is essentially the implementation of the Oded Yinon plan from '86.
[09:29:39] <c0lo> May happen soon enough. But it will go through a civil war.
[09:29:29] <boru> Afghanistan was far better off before Islamic law.
[09:29:06] <boru> Which is why I said their rule will eventually end.
[09:28:51] <c0lo> Not even occupied by Talibans, yes.
[09:28:30] <t3> the entire middle east has been constantly invaded and at war for millenia, it is geographically important, fertile, full of resources, the cultures have adapted to that situation
[09:28:23] <boru> The one thing all of the tribes of Afghanistan have in common, is not wanting to be occupied by anyone.
[09:28:06] <boru> Yeah, I don't see Afghanistan changing much in that regard, but IMHO that's the reason the Taliban have had such an easy time steam rolling the country.
[09:28:05] <c0lo> Need a generation to know something different from tribaism.
[09:27:26] <c0lo> True. And it will stayy like that for a good while.
[09:27:13] <boru> I'd say being carpet bombed by NATO members is good enough a reason.
[09:26:51] <boru> No one has ever conquered Afghanistan in its entire history for this reason.
[09:26:36] <boru> The Taliban won't hold the country forever, due to the diversity I mentioned above.
[09:26:31] <c0lo> They don't even have a reason for that unification?
[09:26:05] <boru> But better the devil you know, than the west.
[09:25:58] <boru> I said it was difficult.
[09:25:48] <c0lo> It's not in the tribal culture of the region.
[09:25:27] <c0lo> Unification in any sense? Not gonna happen.
[09:25:11] <boru> Unified, they'd wipe israel, and then put themselves in a better bargaining position with the saudis.
[09:24:45] <boru> I think Iran's goal is unifying the region, but their biggest hurdle there will be Afghanistan.
[09:24:04] <c0lo> Nope, they won't stop. They won't create too much trouble immediatelly. All depends on how weak the Iranians become over the next years.
[09:22:58] <boru> And I meant the Iranian border.
[09:22:49] <c0lo> And even then, it's only a matter of time before some extermist decides to fuck all, but uyghurs are our brothers.
[09:22:30] <boru> China could, for access to those minerals.
[09:21:52] <c0lo> Which border? Not with Pakistan, not with Iran Maybe with China, if China give them support.
[09:21:05] <boru> I wonder if the Taliban will stop at the border.
[09:20:54] <boru> The Afghans and Iranians don't really like each other, so this move destablises the whole region, yet again.
[09:20:39] <c0lo> Someone will need to win the war w/o contest to get to them minerals.
[09:20:28] <boru> It's more a case of infrastructure, really. I think Afghanistan was also a convenient outpost to have next to Iran.
[09:20:03] <boru> It worked so well for them in Columbia and Vietnam.
[09:19:56] <c0lo> Minerals don't matter if it's too risky to get to them.
[09:19:54] <boru> I would say the CIA were a bit upset about having to leave the former behind.
[09:19:28] <boru> Not just the opium, there's a lot of minerals there as well.
[09:19:03] <c0lo> With the amount of arms (brought with opium or just left behind there), expect civil war.
[08:43:03] <boru> I think the majority of people are probably just glad that the foreign invasion has ended for now.
[08:42:20] <boru> Afghanistan is too diverse for Taliban rule to work on a national level for very long.
[08:41:46] <boru> Unlikely for now, since they've been armed to the teeth by the americans _again_, but I don't think they'll be able to suppress it forever.
[08:41:12] <boru> The proliferation of Islamic law in Afghanistan is unfortunate, but hopefully will lead to a revolution whereby Afghanistan goes back to how it was before that began _without_ foreign intervention.
[08:39:14] <FatPhil> next week's headlines: "Panjshir Holocaust"
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[08:22:27] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
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[00:14:45] <c0lo> https://pbs.twimg.com