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[00:12:17] <raxas> AzumaHazuki: there are three easy obtainable substances significantly more effective as thrombosis prevention than aspirin: pomegranate, cacao (cocoa), linden tea
[00:13:03] <AzumaHazuki> those are anticoagulant? i've been using ginger, garlic, cayenne, fennel, Chinese star anise, and white pine needle
[00:16:14] <requerdanos> careful, worrying about whether they are in fact anticoagulant is coming dangerously close to being concerned with facts
[00:17:08] <raxas> yes, strong anticoagulants. it's public advice from Valerij Ivanovič Večorko, chief doctor from some Moscow hospital for post-covid patients
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[00:18:32] <greatscott> Logged in to find that I'm mod banned.
[00:34:00] <requerdanos> your friend Valerij Ivanovič Večorko is not very well represented on google and yandex results are in russian which is not a language i speak
[00:36:35] <raxas> that's your problem. I call you illiterate
[00:37:26] <requerdanos> guilty as charged in the case of russian, with which i have but slight familiarity.
[00:37:51] <raxas> he's on telegram
[00:40:01] <requerdanos> another area with which my acquaintance is slight. judging from the telegram website it's to do with animated ducks.
[00:44:01] <AzumaHazuki> i can curse in russian, does that count?
[00:44:31] <requerdanos> not unless you can pick it out and read it, I don't think
[00:44:41] <AzumaHazuki> i can read, but not understand, russian
[00:45:29] <requerdanos> well, the cognates, of which there are many, help a lot, but yeah I know what you mean
[00:45:32] <raxas> in this situation, maybe you should be scientifically fact-checking substances, not people
[00:46:05] <requerdanos> I'm not fact-checking, just was curious to learn
[00:46:37] <AzumaHazuki> raxas, what are the chemicals in those three foods that have anticoagulant effects?
[00:46:52] <requerdanos> see, there you go again lol
[00:46:54] <AzumaHazuki> i am guessing some kind of terpene or coumarin derivative
[00:47:30] <raxas> I have no idea, I am not alchemist :)
[00:47:48] <AzumaHazuki> neither am i, blin. am pharmacy technician
[00:50:34] <requerdanos> and sometimes it's the sum total of a food that provides a benefit, rather than an extractible chemical.
[00:51:52] <AzumaHazuki> er...no, it's definitely the extractible chemicals that have individual effects. some foods have many and may synergize though
[00:52:09] <requerdanos> that's what I mean.
[00:52:23] <raxas> cute amiga clone happened https://retrogames.biz
[00:52:24] <systemd> ^ 03Introducing The C64
[00:54:36] <raxas> bot confused, there are more titles in the page
[00:55:11] <raxas> browser's is "The A500 MINI - Retro Games"
[00:56:27] <AzumaHazuki> raxas: did you know about pork making red blood cells clump?
[00:57:10] <AzumaHazuki> it turns out there's some heat-stable chemical, probably a lectin of some sort, that makes erythrocytes clump up. thankfully it can't tolerate food acids, so a vinegar marinate makes pork safe to eat
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[01:06:40] <raxas> I know about stacking effect, red cells assemble, making coin-like columns. the huge structure then clog the small tubes, effectively cooling peripherals at first
[01:07:28] <raxas> another aggregation is chaotic, with deformed red cells
[01:09:52] <AzumaHazuki> right
[01:10:01] <AzumaHazuki> turns out pork does that to you unless you acid-marinate it
[01:18:31] <raxas> maybe I should not say this on this very channel, but I do: one big problem with 60GHz 5th generation wireless technology is, it causes the coin-stacking effect too
[01:19:13] <raxas> that's about size of the O2 molecule and wavelength
[01:21:04] <chromas> 5mm?
[01:24:30] <FatPhil> don't you know how much harm a 5mm O2 molecule can do?!?!?
[01:25:48] <chromas> When they're that big, I'd expect to see them all around me, yet I haven't seen a single set of balls bouncing off my eyes
[01:25:50] <raxas> you know where to seek scientific papers, do you. it's absorption
[01:27:24] <chromas> water absorbs 2.4ghz so that must mean the molecules are 12mm I guess
[01:29:44] <raxas> it's the core design feature for 5gen, oxygen absorption means the signals do not interfere for long distance
[01:36:32] <raxas> https://www.rfglobalnet.com
[01:36:34] <systemd> ^ 03Fixed Wireless Communications at 60GHz Unique Oxygen Absorption Properties
[01:37:11] <raxas> true engineers
[01:37:50] <FatPhil> you need to look for them using 60GHz light, that will detect the ultraviolent bonds.
[01:39:03] <raxas> but. in this state, oxygen cannot bind to blood cells properly. that causes coin-stacking of blood cells identical to stacking caused by chemicals
[01:39:38] <FatPhil> TIL: oxygen is polar, who'da thunk
[01:40:45] <raxas> direct consequence: covid-like symptoms by just 60GHz. and if added covid to the situation, death coming
[01:48:45] <FatPhil> early simptomes include belief in any and all pseudoscience woo woo that gets transmitted over the airwaves.
[01:49:13] <FatPhil> s/simptomes/symptoms/
[01:49:13] <SedBot> <FatPhil> early symptoms include belief in any and all pseudoscience woo woo that gets transmitted over the airwaves.
[01:59:20] <raxas> is this science enough for non-believers in any and all pseudoscience? https://www.sciencedirect.com
[01:59:21] <systemd> ^ 0360-GHz oxygen band: precise broadening and central frequencies of fine-structure lines, absolute absorption profile at atmospheric pressure, and revision of mixing coefficients
[02:00:53] <chromas> Where's the part about coin stacking?
[02:01:15] <raxas> look for medical journals
[02:01:30] <chromas> no
[02:01:56] <tedious> Is 60ghz the 5g spectrum?
[02:02:25] <requerdanos> this says it's mixed, not stacked into clumps. doesn't say what you say it says.
[02:02:41] <chromas> it's within it. '5g' covers a yuuuge range of spectrumses
[02:04:30] <requerdanos> the average person does not leap, like a spark from a charged terminal, from any sciency-sounding material straight to the conspiracy theory; this is why the cited article you post often does not have its intended effect.
[02:05:19] <requerdanos> it takes a special kind of person to get halfway in and say "I knew it!" and consider the conspiracy a proven fact (without the "proven" and with a paucity of "fact")
[02:05:58] <requerdanos> this kind of person, and the aforementioned "Average" person, have communication difficulties as a result.
[02:06:01] <chromas> That's exactly what a conspirator would say! I knew it!
[02:06:43] <requerdanos> so what I am saying is, just chalk it up to communication difficulties.
[02:07:11] <raxas> raxas | maybe I should not say this on this very channel,
[02:07:16] <raxas> I should not.
[02:07:39] <requerdanos> It's fine to say it; it's just that I don't think anyone else agrees, and your posted article doesn't seem to, either.
[02:07:43] <chromas> communication would be less difficult if the osygen wasn't absorbing all the 5gs
[02:08:43] <requerdanos> I mean, I noticed right off it didn't say that radio waves cause covid symptoms, and after consuming the abstract I noted that there was no stacking either.
[02:10:18] <requerdanos> for that person who is "Average" (for want of a better word) in this respect, it would take the article actually saying something to conclude that the article said that something.
[02:11:10] <raxas> this is fine example of stacking https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com
[02:12:07] <requerdanos> but, see, there's no 5G cell tower in the photo.
[02:12:10] <chromas> where's the link between that and 60ghz?
[02:12:25] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: So if I make pork chops I should soak them in vinnegar for awhile first?
[02:12:32] <raxas> https://media.sciencephoto.com
[02:12:54] <chromas> oh that green blob must be the 5g
[02:13:03] <requerdanos> that photo is literally captioned "blot clot"
[02:13:09] <tedious> What about just throwing a cup in the instant pot and cooking pork normally?
[02:13:41] <requerdanos> no clotting and you die. it's how ebola and marburg kill.
[02:14:44] <chromas> mmm, tapeworms
[02:15:11] <requerdanos> i am pretty sure cooking will kill your typical tapeworm
[02:15:45] <chromas> not with all the 5gs around
[02:18:38] <t3> it's very rare nowadays for meat from factory-farmed livestock to have transmissible parasites
[02:19:39] <t3> almost all contamination is during preparation in the kitchen, salmonella etc.
[02:31:49] <raxas> frankly, you guys are incompetent for survival. you really need to be governed by someone else. enjoy your freedom vaccines
[02:32:32] <chromas> ok
[02:32:59] <FatPhil> anyone else hearing this strange "woo woo" sound?
[02:35:41] <FatPhil> Hmmm, mayge it's a font issue - perhaps he's thinking of 5q rather than 5g?
[02:35:56] <Runaway1956> That's OK raxas, we have Doctor Mom to take care of us here.
[02:47:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Plans to Launch High-End "Arc" GPUs in Q1 2022 - https://sylnt.us
[02:48:10] <AzumaHazuki> raxas, i'm not seeing where that paper makes your connection
[02:49:46] <AzumaHazuki> https://www.lifewire.com no mention of any carrier in the US usng 60 Ghz
[02:49:47] <systemd> ^ 035G Spectrum and Frequencies: Everything You Need to Know
[02:49:56] <AzumaHazuki> and yet, the US appears to be the epicentre of covid
[02:51:11] <chromas> it's obviously secret 5g
[02:51:48] <AzumaHazuki> "High-band 5G uses frequencies of 25–39 GHz, near the bottom of the millimeter wave band, although higher frequencies may be used in the future. It often achieves download speeds in the gigabit per second (Gbit/s) range, comparable to cable internet. However, millimeter waves (mmWave or mmW) have a more limited range, requiring many small cells." - https://www.nokia.com via EN wikipedia
[02:52:49] <chromas> specifically, red blood cells, stacked like coins by 5g vaxx
[02:53:27] <AzumaHazuki> So, um, care to either explain yourself and update us on the facts, or retract what you said?
[02:56:31] <t3> https://en.wikipedia.org 60GHz is not being used for 5G
[02:56:32] <systemd> ^ 03V band - Wikipedia
[02:56:55] <t3> plenty of other stuff tho
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[03:01:42] <SoyCow7790> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[03:01:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03T-Mobile Apparently Lied to Government to Get Sprint Merger Approval, Ruling Says" (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[03:03:00] <FatPhil> 60GHz's absorbed more by water than O2 anyway, O2's an infrared herring
[03:03:02] <AzumaHazuki> raxas, well...?
[03:07:01] <FatPhil> if it takes hundreds of meters to attenuate the signal, we call that "passes through", more than "is absorbed by"
[03:07:53] <FatPhil> c.f. "visible light is absorbed by glass" - said no-one evar
[03:08:16] <Runaway1956> Wait, visible light is NOT absorbed by glass? OMG!!
[03:09:03] <Runaway1956> How will we ever protect ourselves from that type of radiation?
[03:09:52] <FatPhil> and it's a shit comparison as it's absorbed by several orders of magnitude more than 60GHz in O2.
[03:18:06] <Runaway1956> Tags simply don't work in journal entry titles, do they?
[03:18:55] <FatPhil> there are bugs, see dev
[03:19:30] <FatPhil> tags work better than less than symbols
[03:19:31] <Runaway1956> I'm not going to /dev - wierd shit happens down there
[03:26:26] <Runaway1956> nothing works right, so I just stuck some slash marks into it and quite
[03:40:56] <FatPhil> ah, you might want to try <s> and <strike>, they're from different HTML standards. <del> also an option.
[03:41:27] <Runaway1956> I tried <s> and <del> - didn't try <strike>
[03:48:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Take Step Toward Next-Generation Brain-Computer Interface System - https://sylnt.us
[03:58:05] <Runaway1956> Ah-ha! <del> works perfectly in the body of a post but not as part of a title
[03:59:45] <FatPhil> yup, they're treated differently, because rasins.
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[05:26:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ripples in Saturn’s Rings Reveal Planet’s Core is Big and Jiggly - https://sylnt.us - Jiggly-Cores
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[07:05:20] <c0lo> =submit https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org
[07:05:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Professor Develops Technology That Cools People Down – Without Electricity or AC" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:05:38] <c0lo> ^^^ that is quite interesting.
[07:25:22] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theregister.com
[07:25:24] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Dallas Cops Lost 8TB of Criminal Case Data During Bungled Migration, Says the DA... Four Months Late" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:26:40] <FatPhil> c0lo: there's an "advance in radiative cooling" press release from some university or other every bloody few months.
[07:28:08] <c0lo> FatPhil, I'm gonna look for a DIY solution then.
[07:28:19] <c0lo> =submit good-deal https://www.notebookcheck.net
[07:28:21] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Hacker Receives US$7,500 Bounty for Reporting Exploit That Allowed Him to Add Unlimited Funds to His" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:29:33] <c0lo> =submit is-doxing-trolls-trolling? https://www.insider.com
[07:29:35] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03TikTok Vigilante Group the Great Londini Has Made Hunting Down Trolls its Mission" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:32:46] <c0lo> =submit la-la-la-la-cant-hear-you https://www.salon.com
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[07:34:52] <t3> FatPhil: it is an advance - the coating can be sold, while all the passive solar cooling tech I've seen would be hard to commercialize
[07:35:12] <c0lo> =submit just-one-more-dose-please https://www.cnbc.com
[07:35:15] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Pfizer Submits Data to FDA for Authorization of Covid Vaccine Booster Shot for General Population" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:36:25] <c0lo> =submit so-it-has-come-to-this https://www.axios.com
[07:36:28] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03First-ever Water Shortage Declared for Lake Mead on Colorado River, Prompting Cuts" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:39:37] <c0lo> =submit still-asking-from-feds-don't-they https://www.nbcnews.com
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[07:41:10] <FatPhil> t3: it's taken him long enough, this was 7 years ago: https://www.nature.com . Or is he just another academic recycling papers to keep the funding coming in?
[07:41:12] <systemd> ^ 03Passive radiative cooling below ambient air temperature under direct sunlight
[07:43:48] <FatPhil> but here's a paper from 3 months ago on radiative cooling: https://www.pnas.org and here's one from 6 months ago about radiative cooling: https://www.nature.com I think you underestimate how often these "advances" are made.
[07:43:51] <systemd> ^ 03Vapor condensation with daytime radiative cooling
[07:43:53] <systemd> ^ 03A structural polymer for highly efficient all-day passive radiative cooling
[07:44:13] <FatPhil> If only these guys worked on fusion!
[07:50:46] <c0lo> Good, the more the merrier. What's with you, FatPhil, you have a radiative cooling phobia?
[07:53:37] <c0lo> Almost shitlords material https://www.businessinsider.com.au
[07:53:40] <systemd> ^ 03China's state media mocked the US withdrawal in Afghanistan, saying the Taliban takeover was 'more smooth than the presidential transition in the US'
[07:55:31] <c0lo> =submit https://electrek.co
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[07:57:53] <c0lo> =submit don't-fuck-with-alberta https://www.cbc.ca
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[08:06:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Slackware 15.0 Release Candidate One - https://sylnt.us
[08:10:04] <c0lo> Oh, no, they arrested the chiefshaman https://www.ibtimes.com
[08:10:05] <systemd> ^ 03Sri Lanka Axes Health Minister Over Covid Misinformation As Outbreak Grows
[08:19:19] <c0lo> =submit doi-10.1021/acsnano.1c05272 and-so-the-fall-of-china-research-has-begun https://www.sciencedaily.com
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[08:28:45] <chromas> you're letting out all Elon's secrets
[08:34:37] <FatPhil> behind the curtain is Elizabeth Holmes...
[08:40:22] <c0lo> =submit we-need-batteries https://reneweconomy.com.au
[08:40:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Day Wind and Solar Nearly Met 100 Per Cent of Demand in Victoria" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:41:25] <c0lo> ^^^ Negative wholesale electricity prices
[08:43:45] <c0lo> =submit https://techcrunch.com
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[08:45:05] <chromas> bu-bu-but humans are even more error-prone! Why are we worried about auto-pilot?
[08:46:11] <c0lo> Can't jail an autopilot, can you?
[08:46:26] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
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[08:46:57] <c0lo> They learn quick, those chinamen.
[08:47:41] <chromas> !grab c0lo
[08:47:41] <Bender> Added quote 1052
[08:47:54] <chromas> hehe, 69p
[08:48:10] <FatPhil> I hate to be cynical [no you don't, Phil], but that chart looks more like "the minute wind and solar nearly met 100% of demand in Victoria".
[08:48:45] <FatPhil> for it to be a day meeting demand, the line would have to *average* 100%, not peak at.
[08:49:57] <FatPhil> something equally true as the headline would be "the day wind and solar provided only 10.7% of demand in Victoria".
[08:52:45] <c0lo> FatPhil, mate, your acute access of pedantry today is remarcable. Deep down inside you, you know that without energy storage, it cannot happen to have a 100% renewables.
[08:55:47] <FatPhil> And, as if magically, I did not contradict that in any way.
[08:56:22] <FatPhil> The market must be completely dysfunctional though, reading the -ve price bit of the story.
[08:58:09] <FatPhil> A correctly-functioning market cannot "bid prices into negative territry", it can only *offer* prices there.
[09:04:32] <c0lo> A mathematicians mind spring into action. And EE would realize that excess power in the grid will result in damaging it, with extra cost incurred to fix it, would one allow it to happen.
[09:05:13] <c0lo> =submit https://thedriven.io
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[09:05:17] <c0lo> =w Osborne effect
[09:05:18] <systemd> The Osborne effect is a social phenomenon of customers canceling or deferring orders for the current soon-to-be-obsolete product as an unexpected drawback - https://en.wikipedia.org
[09:06:25] <c0lo> =submit does-it-have-cowpox-too? https://www.newscientist.com
[09:06:28] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Real Milk, No Cows Needed: Lab-made Dairy Products are Now a Reality" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:07:27] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theregister.com
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[09:10:40] <c0lo> Oh, wow! And... whatcha gonna do 'bout it, huh? https://abcnews.go.com
[09:10:41] <systemd> ^ 03Taliban fighters executing surrendering troops, which could amount to war crimes, U.S. officials say
[09:12:19] <c0lo> =submit betcha-not-gonna-happen https://www.npr.org
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[09:13:55] <c0lo> =submit when-smoking-may-be-a-healthier-choice https://www.reuters.com
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[09:14:53] <c0lo> =submit I-though-you-should-know https://www.france24.com
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[09:15:46] <c0lo> =submit https://www.tomshardware.com
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[09:16:21] <c0lo> =submit https://www.cbsnews.com
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[09:22:25] <c0lo> =submit https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk
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[09:22:29] <c0lo> =w ecocide
[09:22:30] <systemd> A few nations have codified ecocide as a crime. Activities that might constitute ecocide in these nations include substantially damaging or destroying - https://en.wikipedia.org
[09:24:39] <c0lo> I think I loaded enough the queue for today. Have fun, eds.
[09:29:46] <c0lo> One more to go with Danny boy's https://soylentnews.org
[09:29:47] <systemd> ^ 03Census data: US is diversifying, white population shrinking: SoylentNews Submission
[09:30:13] <c0lo> =submit https://www.texastribune.org
[09:30:16] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08People of Color Make Up 95% of Texas’ Population Growth, and Cities and Suburbs are Booming, 2020 " (28p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:40:00] <c0lo> Looks like the Montezuma's revenge, mexicans taking back Texas
[09:40:39] <c0lo> "Texas gaining nearly 11 Hispanic residents for every additional white resident since 2010"
[09:40:56] <c0lo> Oooops. Too late now
[09:41:16] <c0lo> =w Montezuma's revenge
[09:41:17] <systemd> Montezuma's Revenge is a 1984 platform game for Atari 8-bit family, Atari 2600, Atari 5200, Apple II, ColecoVision, Commodore 64, IBM PC (as a self-booting - https://en.wikipedia.org's_Revenge_(video_game)
[09:41:32] <c0lo> Not that one!
[09:43:38] <c0lo> https://en.wikipedia.org(disambiguation)
[09:43:38] <systemd> ^ 03Montezuma's revenge (disambiguation) - Wikipedia
[09:44:05] <c0lo> https://en.wikipedia.org
[09:44:06] <systemd> ^ 03Travelers' diarrhea - Wikipedia
[09:47:52] <t3> moctezuma is probably a better spelling if you're not looking for the game
[10:10:17] <FatPhil> every UK citizen would certainly think of the shits upon hearing that phrase.
[10:11:38] <t3> I was planning to find an old HP or TI calc to gut, but these cheap soviet mk52s look way cooler
[10:58:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - T-Mobile Apparently Lied to Government to Get Sprint Merger Approval, Ruling Says - https://sylnt.us
[11:12:49] <Ingar> It's not jsut TExas
[11:12:54] <Ingar> afaik most of Europe is in the same position
[11:13:17] <Ingar> it's also the main reason why these immigrant streams are so important
[11:13:20] <Ingar> cheap labour
[11:13:39] <Ingar> (that's "important" in quotes ofc)
[11:15:38] <Ingar> Exploitation begins at home!
[11:31:47] <t3> I'd bet the pop growth in Texas has more to do with CA relocations and new births than immigration
[11:32:16] <t3> and that many of those would not consider themselves to be "people of color"
[11:35:00] <c0lo> Ingar, because the surplus of money for a decent wage needs instead to accumulate as profit somewhere. The more, the better.
[11:36:47] <c0lo> t3, of course, the latinos in CA prefer Texas. I wonder where the latino in CA come from, tho'.
[11:37:20] <t3> from CA, where they already were when it was bought
[11:39:13] <c0lo> Ah, so they do have a factory of latino in CA that delivers to Texas, 'cause the ones in CA can't originate in birth or immigration.
[11:39:43] <t3> my grand-side-relations moved out to CA and my cousins are now moving back to TX, so idk which counts as the origin
[11:41:19] <c0lo> https://www.ppic.org
[11:41:20] <systemd> ^ 03California's Population - Public Policy Institute of California
[11:42:09] <c0lo> About 500k moved out CA. Latino overtook whites in 2014 in CA.
[11:42:30] <t3> i would be very sceptical of any racial demographics
[11:43:08] <t3> see: https://en.wikipedia.org
[11:43:09] <systemd> ^ 03El Paso, Texas - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[11:43:38] <c0lo> Can't pick one way or the other in re racial demographics. It's all American to me
[11:43:40] <t3> "white" or "hispanic" is just a matter of filling out the form
[11:44:26] <t3> I often check both
[11:46:33] <t3> then you also have "native americans" being counted seperately
[11:46:36] <c0lo> Thinking of the Colombian baristas at the coffee shop downstairs the office (wow, quite a while since I've been there), I can't see any racial difference between the white/hispanic.
[11:46:42] <t3> wtf are we then?!
[11:47:05] <c0lo> What the heck does a melting pot contain?
[11:49:09] <c0lo> Can a pot that is melting actually still contain something?
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[11:49:55] <requerdanos> I had a pot arc-weld itself to an electric stove burner once, melting a hole and spilling its contents out the bottom. so briefly, yes
[11:56:01] <c0lo> Well, the American pot is melting for some time. What would count as briefly?
[11:56:58] <requerdanos> I guess it's all relative.
[11:57:15] <c0lo> Trump is loosing it, not even his properties are listening to him https://www.newsweek.com
[11:57:17] <systemd> ^ 03Trump Hotels impose COVID-19 mask mandates as Republicans condemn them
[11:59:53] <c0lo> btw, FatPhil, Mark Allen is scared more of his ex than of Trump.
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[12:15:55] <c0lo> =submit https://www.abc.net.au
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[12:26:58] <c0lo> =submit hdds-are-still-better https://www.theregister.com
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[13:47:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - College Student Details Making His Second Generation of ICs at Home - https://sylnt.us - try-it-at-home!?
[14:04:21] <Teckla> Cool, the latest Windows update nuked Ubuntu from Windows Terminal, for unknown reasons.
[14:13:46] <Ingar> 21H1?
[14:14:00] <Ingar> did id delete the WSL or an ubuntu partition ?
[14:16:28] <Ingar> (don't care about the former, care very much about the latter)
[14:18:41] <Teckla> Ingar: Yes, 21H1. Ubuntu/WSL2 is still there, just not in Windows Terminal.
[14:18:52] <Teckla> Still accessible, still works.
[14:19:29] <Teckla> Over the past ~2 years, I've had unending problems with Microsoft software, especially Windows. Makes me wonder if something changed behind the scenes, and it's not working out very well.
[14:19:33] <Teckla> Lots of quality issues.
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[17:21:06] <Runaway1956> <Teckla> Over the past ~25 years, I've had unending problems with Microsoft software, especially Windows.
[17:24:38] <requerdanos> I have had remarkably few problems with Windows every since Windows 10 came out. Practically none, in fact.
[17:28:23] <requerdanos> Of course, that's when I switched to a zero-windows policy and put debian on everything.
[17:28:45] <Runaway1956> lol, there's always a catch
[17:45:09] <FatPhil> ewwww, debian, that ain't what the cool kids use any more
[17:45:59] <Runaway1956> Sure it is, we just strip systemd out of it before using
[18:02:09] <FatPhil> why not just run devuan instead, they've done that for you
[18:02:25] <Runaway1956> Well, yeah - it's still Debian though
[18:02:34] <Runaway1956> Actually, I'm running MX Linux
[18:02:48] <Runaway1956> which is still Debian under the hood
[19:04:25] <Teckla> requerdanos: ha! you got me on that one. :)
[19:07:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sonos Gets Early Patent Victory Against Google Smart Speakers - https://sylnt.us - hear!-hear!
[19:38:01] <FatPhil> https://xkcd.com
[19:38:01] <systemd> ^ 03Universal Seat Belt
[19:50:39] <FatPhil> =submit https://www.bbc.co.uk
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