#soylent | Logs for 2021-08-11
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[00:09:40] <AzumaHazuki> man, i've got my own little hate brigade
[00:09:55] <AzumaHazuki> -1 Redundant mods on a zillion posts that don't deserve them
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[00:18:48] anti-aristarchus is now known as SoyGuest33313
[00:19:38] <SoyGuest33313> #MeToo! Guess we need hemo back to document the persecution
[00:20:55] <AzumaHazuki> no, hemo can continue fucking off to wherever he fucked off to
[00:23:41] <SoyGuest33313> Pretty sure it is from yhj.vsegda.budet.freeznc.ru
[00:24:04] <Bytram> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[00:24:07] <systemd> ^ 03Hackers steal $600m in major cryptocurrency heist
[00:36:52] <Runaway1956> lol @ the aristarchus creature
[00:38:04] <Runaway1956> Where have I seen ~2d4d1fb9@45.77.xm.jkp before?
[00:38:56] <SoyGuest33313> Is it true that his mod-ban is rescinded?
[00:39:28] <Runaway1956> Nahhhh, he is mod banned until July 2031.
[00:44:39] <SoyGuest33313> Prima facie case of sockpuppetry, then.
[00:44:54] <AzumaHazuki> that's runaway's hostmask
[00:45:12] <Runaway1956> LOL - took her long enough to figure that out
[00:45:23] <AzumaHazuki> though since it's an irc bouncer it doesn't mean he's the only one here using it
[00:45:48] <Runaway1956> and your prima bitch facia evidence won't stand up anywhere outside your imagination
[00:47:41] <SoyGuest33313> And I take it that the admins are no longer reining in the modbombing? Allowing a runaway brigade of sockpuppets to wreak havoc?
[00:48:03] <Runaway1956> Aristarchus knows all about sock puppets, lol
[00:48:07] <AzumaHazuki> in that case nothing's changed...the dumb motherfucker puts his sig in his AC posts and it's clear from typing style who it is
[00:48:44] <Runaway1956> See, 'Zumi really is smarter than any of Aristarchus puppets
[00:49:10] <Runaway1956> Which gives her an IQ of around 100
[00:49:31] <SoyGuest33313> This all makes SN a much less pleasant place to hang out.
[00:49:47] <Runaway1956> Maybe you should try being more pleasant?
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[00:50:09] <Runaway1956> lolol
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[02:04:47] <Bytram> have a great night everybody!
[02:05:05] <Runaway1956> you do the same BYtram
[02:05:23] * Runaway1956 is thinking about bed
[02:06:00] <Bytram> mare see!
[02:06:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA, DOE Fund Three Nuclear Thermal Space Propulsion Concepts - https://sylnt.us
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[03:22:05] <c0lo> =submit for the weekend https://www.huffpost.com
[03:22:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Rudy Giuliani Resorts to Selling Cameo Vids for $199 Each" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:33:34] <raxas> while that looks like "just politics", Cuomo affair is an indirect hit at Project Biden. it's interesting as structural impact of social engineering operation. I call this a technology (of power)
[04:33:44] <raxas> "The sexual harassment allegations against Cuomo have entirely eclipsed the much bigger scandal involving thousands of seniors who died in New York nursing homes after the governor’s orders to send Covid-positive patients among the population most at risk."
[04:34:19] <raxas> sourcing the quote above properly is not acceptable in this community though
[04:47:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bayer Loses Appeal of Ruling That its Weed Killer Causes Cancer - https://sylnt.us
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[05:49:00] <chromas> Yeah but we only like pro-Cuomo subs around here
[05:49:38] <chromas> He totally didn't murder old people by sticking covid patients into nursing homes and then moving the sick out to hospitals to hide the stats
[05:55:45] <raxas> Queen’s gambit: Andrew Cuomo’s downfall is meant to protect the establishment, not hold it accountable
[05:56:03] <chromas> Same as Epstein
[05:56:06] <chromas> and that pizza place
[05:56:12] <raxas> I know. So, not even linking that
[05:58:00] <raxas> frankly, it's very hard to find more evilish looking face on all internets. like he eats children for breakfast
[05:58:40] <chromas> Aborty-O's—part of a complete breakfast!
[06:01:14] <chromas> Cat sits down on the enumberpad to do his licking
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[07:28:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Artificial Intelligence May Diagnose Dementia in a Day - https://sylnt.us - how-fast-to-detect-a-demented-AI
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[08:27:21] <c0lo> https://pbs.twimg.com
[08:38:55] <c0lo> =submit build-a-wall https://www.king5.com
[08:38:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03COVID-related Restrictions to Enter Canada Could Last for Years, Health Minister Says" (28p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:39:24] <raxas> this is BIG. Code Red Alert at United Nations:
[08:39:29] <raxas> =submit https://www.ipcc.ch
[08:39:30] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Sixth Assessment Report" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:39:53] <raxas> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[08:39:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Geoengineering Marks Scientific Gains in U.N. Report on Dire Climate Future" (58p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:07:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Smoke from Siberia Wildfires Reaches North Pole in Historic First - https://sylnt.us - not-so-permafrost
[10:19:03] <raxas> it's now permafire
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[10:52:25] <FatPhil> the next intelligent species, when analysing ice cores going back millions of years will discover the layer of soot, and come up with theories about the arctic being on fire
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[11:51:02] <FatPhil> Doctor, I've got a strawberry stuck up my arse
[11:51:10] <FatPhil> Don't worry, I've got some cream for that.
[12:00:30] * boru rolls eyes.
[12:02:43] <inz> That's a berry shitty joke
[12:02:55] <boru> I seed what you did there.
[12:23:18] <FatPhil> you pipped me to the post
[12:31:40] <boru> Better keep your eyes peeled next time, then.
[12:55:39] <c0lo> "when analysing ice cores going back millions" - won't be ours, we'll melt that sooted one next year.
[12:56:06] <Ingar> the soot will end up in the past
[12:57:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk Offers for SpaceX to Make NASA Spacesuits, after Watchdog Says Program to Cost Billion - https://sylnt.us - cost-plus-contracting
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[13:21:01] <raxas> =submit https://www.rt.com
[13:21:05] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08‘Free Assange’: Corbyn Joins Protesters Demanding Release of Assange as US Extradition Appeal Re" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[14:07:29] <SoyCow7141> Hello
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[14:09:22] <janrinok> hello
[15:17:28] <FatPhil> is it me you're looking for?
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[15:18:55] <janrinok> LOL
[15:19:33] <Teckla> FatPhil: lol
[15:19:37] <Teckla> FatPhil++
[15:19:37] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 138
[15:19:39] <Teckla> coffee++
[15:19:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5580
[15:20:32] <FatPhil> I was hoping to wait for an hour in silence and then have someone contribute the next line, but I'll take the lols as a close second
[15:21:21] <janrinok> sry - I hadn't thought of that option :)
[15:21:43] <FatPhil> And if it was timed just correctly, I could have done the punchline to the "Are you somewhere feeling lonely \ Or is Lonely feeling you?" bit
[15:21:59] <janrinok> you have too much time on your hands!
[15:22:13] <FatPhil> The 7 dwarfs are the joke that keeps on giving
[15:22:20] <FatPhil> You don't have to do much to maintain silence
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[16:14:39] <Teckla> https://freenode.net
[16:14:40] <systemd> ^ 03On Power to the People - freenode
[16:14:42] <Teckla> 3. Officially become digital territory of the Joseon Empire √
[16:14:45] <Teckla> LOL :)
[16:16:28] <AzumaHazuki> what the actual fuck
[16:16:30] <AzumaHazuki> is this real
[16:18:11] <Teckla> haha, yes, yes it is.
[16:19:30] <AzumaHazuki> does...does he just not know how the internet works? is he jealous of Li'l Kim up north?
[16:20:52] <AzumaHazuki> ...wow, the mobdomb squad is really mad at me :D Karma at 33, basically every post of mine modded Redundant for no reason at all. Wow, I have seriously pissed some sensitive RWNJ snowflake off
[16:21:59] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: Ouch.
[16:22:19] <AzumaHazuki> there are rules about this, but...hahahaha, rules, right?
[16:23:55] <Teckla> Rules that aren't enforced aren't really rules.
[16:24:03] <AzumaHazuki> Yeah, no kidding. Tell the admin staff
[16:24:19] <Teckla> Already expressed my opinion on the subject. :)
[16:24:39] <Teckla> Any more would be redundant
[16:24:42] <AzumaHazuki> LOL
[16:25:20] <AzumaHazuki> know the best part? 10 gets you 1 it's one or two loud frothing morons who are the first to piss and moan about "MUH FREEDUMBZ OVZ PEACH!" and "MUH FIRST UMENDMENT SEZ YOU CAN'T CENSOR MEEEEEE~!"
[16:25:58] <Teckla> Republicans: ALL REGULATIONS ARE BAD!!!
[16:26:07] <AzumaHazuki> because, as DannyB observed, no one screams louder about that stuff on an online forum than the people who are least concerned with other peoples' freedoms
[16:26:25] <Teckla> Also Republicans: YOUTUBE AND FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AND TWITTER ARE VIOLATING MY RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH!!! MAKE LAWS COMPELLING THEM TO ALLOW MY SPEECH!
[16:26:55] <AzumaHazuki> LOL, right? Here's the key to "conservative" thought: it's all tribal. The purpose of law is to protect but not restrict the tribe, and restrict but not protect outsiders
[16:52:35] <raxas> there is no freedom without responsibility. both democrats and republicans are irresponsible as hell
[16:54:15] <Runaway1956> 33 karma for 'Zumi? That beats the worst that the Justice Warrior Mod Brigade has done to me by a point or two, maybe three
[17:03:15] <raxas> I got quite a barrage too. even had +5 Troll on last post at one moment, with current total of 7 Trollmods. there should be a badge for this
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[17:21:52] <Runaway1956> Well, raxas, it's kinda sorta comforting to know that what is done to me is also done to others
[17:22:07] <Runaway1956> I don't feel so much like the lonely stranger, if you know what I mean
[17:22:54] <Runaway1956> It would be nice if people didn't play those silly games though
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[17:39:09] <AzumaHazuki> i've had a couple of +5 Troll comments too, yes
[17:39:33] <AzumaHazuki> and yeah, people need to think of freedoms as coming with responsibilities. if you can do X, you need to consider the effects of X on other people
[17:42:15] <boru> That would require the participation of all, which will never happen.
[17:43:26] <boru> The WWW is a net negative, now, imho. The biggest mistake was giving a soap box for anyone to air their notions without consequence was the death of modern discourse cf. public forums where things were discussed face to face, consequences included. No keyboard warriors there.
[17:44:05] <boru> Crowd sourcing moderation doesn't work for most samples of crowd.
[17:48:16] <FatPhil> once the INT9s arrive
[18:02:42] <AzumaHazuki> gee, if only there was someone who had pointed this out to us. Sometime in 1993 maybe
[18:03:01] <boru> Indeed.
[18:05:14] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: I can't remember did I tell you what I found out about chocolate and lead/cadmium?
[18:05:32] <AzumaHazuki> you mentiond there's heavy metals in commercial chocolate bars i think?
[18:05:58] <AzumaHazuki> i do buy fair-trade cocoa powder sometimes, but no other chocolate or cocoa products due to the slave labor in most of the supply chains
[18:06:21] <tedious> I'm trying to remember the weird website name but there was some group that paid a lab to test a lot of stuff from like 17 different chocolate companies.
[18:06:50] <tedious> And it was all over the place with high end chocolate being either super low or just as bad as everything else.
[18:07:05] <tedious> Even different chocolates from the same company.
[18:08:16] <tedious> So you don't even get what you pay for.
[18:08:34] <boru> Sounds like they could do with a bit of high velocity vitamin Pb themselves.
[18:10:30] <boru> What is the souce of the heavy metals? Absorption from the soil?
[18:11:49] <tedious> Yeah from what I can tell.
[18:11:54] <FatPhil> north of east/central europe - the polluted rain can bring heavy metals onto the leaves from above.
[18:12:17] * boru nods.
[18:12:27] <tedious> You mean lead/cadmium from polluted rain?
[18:13:08] <FatPhil> "industrial" pollution, not sure quite what they were burning in superpoland.
[18:13:13] <tedious> I don't think that happens anymore now that they took lead out of gasoline.
[18:13:23] <FatPhil> there's a +1 to anyone who remembers the reference.
[18:13:33] <FatPhil> there's less lead, yes
[18:13:39] <FatPhil> but it wasn't just lead
[18:13:44] <boru> Quite sure you'll get this from coal power plants, as well.
[18:14:38] <tedious> Hmmmm I guess not every coal plant has EPA requiremenets to capture the ash.
[18:15:00] <boru> Or to contain runoff.
[18:16:21] <boru> Several EO satellites monitor daily atmospheric aerosols. I'd imagine there's some indicator of the origins in the data they publish daily.
[18:16:35] <boru> Coal is an awful energy source, really.
[18:17:21] <boru> Probably the worst there is, ecologically speaking.
[18:17:57] <Runaway1956> Worse, there is "relatively clean" coal, and there is also "filthy" coal
[18:18:40] <boru> Not by emissions.
[18:19:19] <Runaway1956> Mmmm, yeah, I think by emissions - a recent article talked about brown coal, I've forgotten where that was
[18:19:30] <Runaway1956> Want to say Germany, but I don't think that's right
[18:20:14] <boru> I'm not just talking about debris or aerosol emissions, but burning coal at high temperatures also produces radioactive emissions, as well.
[18:20:35] <boru> And yeah, they're shutting down all of the coal plants here in Germany.
[18:21:24] <boru> And stupidly, nuclear power plants, but that's moreso out of necessity, because of post-WW2 agreements regarding selling radioactive materials to Germany.
[18:22:36] <boru> Hopefully it'll make a comeback; coupled with natural gas and renewables, energy shouldn't be a problem for the medium term future until storage technologies improve.
[18:24:12] <Runaway1956> No worries - they're going to put solar plants in the Sahara, and send you all the electricity you need.
[18:24:30] <Runaway1956> at least during daylight hours, lol
[18:26:14] <boru> Until the technology improves, it physically can't meet our energy requirements alone _for now_.
[18:26:19] <boru> I wouldn't scoff at it.
[18:26:31] <boru> But I do wish more money was spent on the research.
[18:27:13] <boru> In terms of units of energy, renewable energy can supply a considerable amount. The problem is demand flucuation of time.
[18:27:28] <boru> Which is where natural gas comes in, until storage technologies improve.
[18:27:58] <boru> Nuclear energy with natural gas and renewables is the best solution for now.
[18:29:19] <boru> Nuclear powerplant output takes days/weeks to change, whereas natural gas plant output takes hours. Ergo, natural gas, for now, handles industrial and large scale residential demands as the day progresses.
[18:31:01] <boru> Back in Ireland, they're looking for candidate sites to build another hydroelectric power station like Turlough Hill. Such stations are very promising as a renewable energy source where the geography allows it.
[18:31:56] <boru> I am highly skeptical of wind energy, however, and until photovoltaic cell and battery technology improves, the utility of solar power will be limited.
[18:32:56] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://phys.org from the bridging-the-is-ought-gap dept.
[18:33:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03To Advance Human Rights, Consult Neuroscience" (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:33:37] <AzumaHazuki> for my part, i want to see thermal solar. big fucking molten salt tanks surrounded by mirror fields out in the desert where even a cactus would die of thirst.
[18:33:43] <AzumaHazuki> the tanks can hold several days of heat
[18:34:08] <boru> Those are quite cool, indeed. You have some in the US, right? IIRC, some in the Californian desert.
[18:34:24] <boru> Alas, the energy they produce is fairly expensive.
[18:34:32] <boru> But it's still a great idea.
[18:34:57] <boru> You also have a fairly steady source of roast poultry from migratory flocks.
[18:36:33] <boru> Overall, the most suitable renewables vary significantly by geography. Lots of sunshine hours for solar, mountains for hydro, large flat planes for wind etc.
[18:37:36] <boru> Putting wind turbines or wave energy actuators out to sea is generally quite myopic.
[18:39:24] <boru> The place in California is called Ivanpo or something like that, I think.
[18:40:27] <boru> Ivanpah, actually.
[18:40:47] <raxas> 48,8°C in Sicilia today
[18:41:09] <boru> Air temperature, or wind chill?
[18:42:51] <raxas> it's absolute europe record temp, previous Athens 48 1977
[18:49:16] <AzumaHazuki> butbutbut global warming is a Chi-com hoax
[18:50:20] <boru> I'm a bit out of touch with the jargon, but what's Chi-com?
[18:50:47] <t3> CHInese COMmunist
[18:50:56] <boru> Ah.
[18:52:14] <raxas> =submit https://www.amnesty.org
[18:52:17] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03USA Must Drop Charges Against Julian Assange" (3p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:57:31] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://medicalxpress.com from the from-the-storehouse-of-the-heart-the-mouth-speaketh dept.
[18:57:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Belief in Social Darwinism Linked to Dysfunctional Psychological Characteristics" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:00:43] <t3> probably any out-group will have a large number of "dysfunctional" people
[19:03:21] <t3> political heresy is often considered to be a sign of dysfunction in the first place
[19:03:25] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://phys.org from the silver-bullet dept.
[19:03:30] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Neutralizing the SARS-CoV-2 Sugar Coat" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:13:58] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://medicalxpress.com from the gut-feeling dept.
[19:14:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Potential COVID-19 Medication Found Among Tapeworm Drugs" (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:15:15] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://phys.org from the catalytic-conversion dept.
[19:15:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03How a Single Catalyst Can Start Turning Carbon Dioxide Into Fuel in Two Ways" (26p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:15:52] <boru> You can also...plant trees.
[19:16:22] <raxas> a year ago, we had good data the virus multiplies very quickly in those worms in human intestines, so that is the reason why anti-parasitic medication slows covid progress in human greatly
[19:16:22] <boru> And no try to reverse desertification in places like the Sahara.
[19:16:31] <raxas> but no one believed us
[19:17:29] <raxas> also I had a hypothesis the virus was designed in lab exactly on those worms
[19:20:02] <raxas> and after the antiparasitic drugs were banned for covid treatment in many countries, I got persuaded it's all a big crime against humanity by design
[19:20:45] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://medicalxpress.com from the all-in-your-head dept.
[19:20:50] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03A New Way to Treat PTSD?" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:23:24] <raxas> what I did not conceived firstly, is that's actual contrarevolution. we are now back in feudalism, pre-1789
[19:23:40] <t3> the CIA et al are definitely evil enough to release a virus as part of a mil/pol strategy, but I doubt their competence and courage to go undertake the task
[19:31:32] <AzumaHazuki> yet i get downmodded and laughed at when i point stuff like that out raxas
[19:31:48] <AzumaHazuki> "the degenerate case of capitalism is feudalism" is an old, old journal entry of mine
[19:32:03] <raxas> if I recall correctly, the multiplication factor for virus in worms is 7-8 times "better" than in human alone
[19:33:47] <raxas> but now we are elsewhere, iota strain and shit
[19:34:18] <AzumaHazuki> you know, if the frothy types are right and this actually is some kind of depopulation scheme, i can't even bring myself to care. i don't fear death.
[19:34:31] <AzumaHazuki> and if it is, i don't want to live in the kind of world those people are planning
[19:43:43] <raxas> I do want. surrender before fight is obviously suboptimal strategy. I never give up, I never forget, I never forgive
[19:45:06] <AzumaHazuki> the living will envy the dead in a world like that. fight if you want to, but you'll be surrounded by psychopaths
[19:45:40] <AzumaHazuki> for my part, i should have died as a little girl. and at age 5. and at 8. and at 12. and at 17. and at 23. and a couple of years ago.
[19:47:34] <raxas> when I am surrounded by psychopats, at least I can't harm innocents...
[19:48:07] <raxas> street school
[19:50:09] <AzumaHazuki> you're not tough, and you won't survive among psychopaths. no normal human can
[19:50:50] <AzumaHazuki> our instincts are held back by our humanity. compared to someone with no concept of "human" outside themselves, we're basically sheep among wolves. they believe, moreover, that *we're* the defective ones and deserve to be prey
[19:52:53] <Runaway1956> lol raxas - when you're surrounded by enemies, that's a "target rich environment"
[19:53:06] <AzumaHazuki> what is this delusion of "rugged individuality" among young men? so many of you seem almost to WANT everything to go to shit, as if the usual laws of a functioning society are holding you back
[19:59:17] <boru> People, generally, are too comfortable to revolt. That is the balancing act those in power have played for some time after learning from history. Stop most people from getting angry enough to do something about it.
[20:00:24] <AzumaHazuki> until technology gets to a point where it'd be irrelevant anyway (or so they think)
[20:00:33] <AzumaHazuki> we've been kicking this can down the road at least 30 years too long
[20:00:40] <raxas> if you survive up to compulsory 5-6th vax dose, talk to me again about "usual laws of a functioning society"
[20:00:56] <boru> 30 years is plenty of time to boil frogs.
[20:01:10] <AzumaHazuki> well, raxas, the first dose did nothing to me and the second one just made me feel like i had a low-grade cold for about 18 hours
[20:01:50] <AzumaHazuki> i'm all for a third dose actually. my diet and supplement regime is obsessive, i'm a healthy weight bordering on low, and apparently people think i'm in my mid-20s, not 33
[20:02:11] <raxas> for now we already got right the technical principles of graphen qdots in vaxes
[20:02:27] <AzumaHazuki> women in my family tend to live a long time. My great-aunt Annelise apparently smokes for 50+ years and died in her 90s. Of diabetes.
[20:02:39] <raxas> and this can be turned against them
[20:03:03] <AzumaHazuki> ...heh. Q-dots. Yeah this sounds like QAnon
[20:03:37] <raxas> https://en.wikipedia.org
[20:03:39] <systemd> ^ 03Graphene quantum dot - Wikipedia
[20:04:27] <raxas> it's about the brain
[20:04:56] <AzumaHazuki> oh this should be interesting. my brain doesn't appear to be glowing, picking up 5G signals, or working faster or slower
[20:06:08] <raxas> think again, faster
[20:15:34] <AzumaHazuki> pretty sure the vax didn't make me smarter
[20:15:59] <AzumaHazuki> if i seem so it's because i've processed some lingering trauma, thus freeing up some brain cycles
[20:16:00] <Teckla> If you think really fast, don't forget to attach a heat sink to your head.
[20:47:59] <FatPhil> or a kitchen sink, they always come in handy
[20:58:15] <FatPhil> TIL: "furtherest" is a word in some parts of the world
[20:59:36] <raxas> some parts of world are wordier than others
[21:01:25] <FatPhil> and new zealand appears to be the wordierest
[21:08:44] <AzumaHazuki> https://pbs.twimg.com America's limp dick state appears to be going gangrenous
[21:08:53] <AzumaHazuki> we may have to amputate
[21:12:38] <FatPhil> So is NE clear, or just failing to report?
[21:15:33] <FatPhil> LA looks even worse than FL
[21:27:22] <raxas> reminds me of Ling Long donghua drama. a street sign reads: Warning! Eco Intensive Area. All citizens are obliged to report any unknown species of plants to authorities immediately. Failing to comply is punishable by termination.
[21:28:23] <requerdanos> that's because you're a conspiracy nutjob. Reminds non-conspiracy non-nutjobs of the healthcare professionals working to help us not die from the pandemic.
[21:30:51] <FatPhil> by sending infected people to care homes
[21:31:05] <FatPhil> no, wait, that's the other corner, the corner with the other nutters in
[21:31:10] <requerdanos> that measure has been controversial, sure, but...
[21:32:04] <requerdanos> I am not really knowledgeable about it but don't think it was caring healthcare professionals on that one, judging by outcome
[21:32:45] <FatPhil> I think it was politicians deciding policy rather than healthcare workers deciding how to take care of health
[21:33:09] <FatPhil> Azuma's closer to ground zero on that one, I'll defer to her.
[21:33:31] <requerdanos> a lesson we can learn from that is to not trust the politicians too far.
[21:33:42] <FatPhil> not one
[21:33:46] <FatPhil> then again, not ever
[21:33:57] <FatPhil> didn't take covid to enlighten me in that direction.
[21:34:48] <requerdanos> https://nypost.com
[21:34:49] <systemd> ^ 03Don’t let Dems bury Cuomo’s nursing-home horrors by ousting him only for sex charges
[21:35:16] <raxas> in my own universe, there would be politicians and enterpreneurs put under continuous surveillance, not citizens and consumers. for a good reason.
[21:35:38] <requerdanos> yeah, that would make more sense than the current system
[21:36:16] <FatPhil> accountability is probably the word I will mention most often when listing what I want from politicians
[21:37:03] <requerdanos> you may as well want accountability from meteoroligists for whether it's going to rain.
[21:37:26] <FatPhil> they give probability, that's their currency
[21:38:39] <requerdanos> and politicians give... fertilizer, I guess
[21:38:51] <FatPhil> sure, I'd love the software running the CFD sims to be open source too, but to be honest, I'm not doubting the software they're running.
[21:39:44] <FatPhil> and we know that modern forecasts will predict hurricanes over kent with ~40% probability on that fateful day back pre supercomputers.
[21:40:28] <FatPhil> which might be a bit of a local reference, but anyone familiar with the UK in the 80s knows what I'm referring to.
[23:04:09] <_dx3bydt3> This may be old news, but it looks as though the comment counts are broken.
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[23:14:08] <raxas> secret Pfizer material is out via japanese government. it explains purpose of magnetic function of graphen oxide
[23:15:35] <raxas> Byram Bridle, Guelph University, Ontario. admits they "made a big mistake"
[23:18:45] <raxas> horseradish, curry, mustard may kill you after vax
[23:19:02] <raxas> it's a hot affair in Canada just now
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