#soylent | Logs for 2021-08-10
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[00:05:26] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[00:05:27] <systemd> ^ 03Idiocracy
[00:05:32] <chromas> finally free on the youtubes
[00:08:32] <Runaway1956> https://tv.gab.com
[00:08:33] <systemd> ^ 03Dr. Destroys the Entire COVID Narrative
[00:18:45] <c0lo_> Runaway1956, covid doesn't care about narratives, only cares about transmission. Florida and Texas seem very interested to let it run free, so it does.
[00:19:50] <Runaway1956> Did ya look at the video, or shrug it off as propaganda?
[00:22:46] <c0lo_> I don't have time to look at videos, I prefer graphs and charts.
[00:22:48] <c0lo_> https://covidactnow.org
[00:22:49] <systemd> ^ 03U.S. COVID Risk & Vaccine Tracker; ( https://covidactnow.org )
[00:26:08] * c0lo_ goes to look at https://www.youtube.com
[00:59:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Recruiting for Simulated Mars Mission in 3D-Printed Habitat - https://sylnt.us - Moon-Base-Alpha
[01:08:03] <c0lo_> =submit for the weekend https://torrentfreak.com
[01:08:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Anti-Piracy Firm Asks Google to Block 127.0.0.1 * TorrentFreak" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[01:51:01] <t3> http://rockybergen.com papercrafted cans of baked beans
[01:51:02] <systemd> ^ 03Sinclair ZX Spectrum - Papercraft Design
[03:48:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing's Starliner Orbital Flight Test 2 Mission Runs into Thruster, Scheduling Issues - https://sylnt.us
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[05:42:58] <raxas> =submit https://medium.com
[05:43:01] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Bypassing Authentication on Arcadyan Routers With CVE-2021–20090 and Rooting Some Buffalo" (73p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:43:38] <raxas> bestseller router, bestseller botnet
[05:44:12] <boru> Teckla; Russian troll? You are a fucking moron.
[05:44:46] <boru> You do nothing other than continuously reinforce your stereotype.
[05:44:55] <boru> Blithering idiot.
[05:48:02] <boru> Bytram; my ISP forces IP release each night, so whilst I might appear to be here, it's just my auto-ghost script clearing the previous session.
[05:48:59] <boru> i.e. not slighting you by ignoring your greeting.
[06:14:52] <chromas> That's not the type of release you want to be getting every night
[06:20:01] <boru> Indeed. I suppose they're just trying to mitigate people serving at home without paying for a static lease.
[06:20:27] <boru> Nothing dynamic DNS can't solve, naturally.
[06:20:31] <boru> It's just a bit annoying.
[06:31:00] <raxas> I pay for static address here but it's still unstable time to time, especially on IPv6
[06:31:43] <raxas> it's rather a philosophical problem: nothing permanent in this world
[06:32:04] <boru> ISPs being crap is a universal invariant, it seems.
[06:32:10] <boru> Heh, indeed.
[06:32:31] <boru> Internet Service Philosophers; who'd have thought.
[06:33:49] <boru> I've been lucky with my last two ISPs, in most respects. They are considerably less shit than those before.
[06:34:42] <boru> They don't care what you do with your connection traffic-wise, and they deliver the stated bandwidth with impressively low latency 24/7. 2-3 outages per year.
[06:35:02] <boru> The IP release each night is probably the most annoying thing about them.
[06:36:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Permafrost Thaw in Siberia Creates a Ticking "Methane Bomb" of Greenhouse Gases, Scientists Warn - https://sylnt.us
[06:38:11] <boru> Oh, cool. RS Oph has nova'd again: http://ooruri.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp ; from mag +12.0 to +4.6 now, apparently, making it a naked eye nova, if you're interested.
[06:38:12] <systemd> ^ 03[vsnet-alert 26131] Outburst of RS Ophiuchi
[06:38:53] <boru> If you're out tomorrow night/Wednesday morning for the peak of the Persied meteor shower, it's something to look at.
[06:39:36] <boru> It's quite a rare phenomenon, since there are only 7 stars that we know of which produce recurrent novae.
[06:42:01] <FatPhil> boru++ shame I live in urban haze :(
[06:42:01] <Bender> karma - boru: 58
[06:42:29] <boru> If you have a pair of binoculars, you'll quite easily see it, even in an urban environment.
[06:43:02] <boru> As for the meteor shower, yeah, you'd want to be somewhere a bit darker with a view of as much sky as possible, and look at the zenith.
[06:43:12] <FatPhil> There was something to look at last year that had -ve magnitude, and I still couldn't see it :(
[06:43:23] <boru> Ouch.
[06:43:24] <FatPhil> On a good night I can see 10 things in the sky.
[06:43:32] <boru> One of the reasons I couldn't live in a city.
[06:49:42] <boru> Lots of ATel follow ups also: https://www.astronomerstelegram.org https://www.astronomerstelegram.org https://www.astronomerstelegram.org
[06:49:44] <systemd> ^ 03ATel #14840: Echelle spectroscopy of RS Oph at day +0.87 from optical discovery
[06:49:46] <systemd> ^ 03ATel #14838: Spectroscopic Follow-up Observation of the 2021 outburst of the recurrent nova RS Ophiuchi
[06:49:48] <systemd> ^ 03ATel #14834: Fermi-LAT Gamma-ray Detection of the Recurrent Nova RS Oph
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[07:11:07] <FatPhil> nice to know you can capture it just with a Canon with a 200mm lens: https://skyandtelescope.org
[07:11:08] <systemd> ^ 03Recurrent Nova RS Ophiuchi Just Blew its Top! - Sky & Telescope
[07:27:51] <FatPhil> woop woop! 15th in medals per capita! https://cms.zerohedge.com
[07:28:42] <inz> Nice, Fin's way down (but still ahead of US, I believe)
[07:29:27] <inz> Shouldn't the third column be capita per medals
[07:37:00] <FatPhil> having a scaling factor of 250:1 makes it easy for us to beat the USA, just using our women's fencers.
[07:37:06] <FatPhil> yeah, that column heading annoyed me too
[07:39:50] <FatPhil> Curious factoid: In the two years between April 2017 and March 2019, 100 percent of the metals required to manufacture the approximately 5,000 gold, silver and bronze medals were extracted from small electronic devices contributed by people from all over Japan.
[07:41:48] <chromas> They use real metal?
[07:44:40] <FatPhil> yeah, no bon jovi in japan
[07:45:06] <FatPhil> =submit bet-you-it-doesn't-happen https://www.entrepreneur.com
[07:45:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The First Hotel in the Space Will Open in 2027" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:53:36] <c0lo_> =submit no-seriously-they-want-to-be-taken-seriously https://www.politico.com
[07:53:37] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'They Want People to Take Them Seriously': Space Force Wary of Taking Over UFO Mission" (23p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:59:37] <c0lo_> =submit https://www.nbcnews.com
[07:59:39] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Bad Credit or No Credit Shouldn't Affect Car Insurance Prices, Experts Say. States are Listening." (33p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:37:53] <c0lo_> =submit https://www.japantimes.co.jp
[08:37:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Aluminum Cans Slowly Replace Plastics to Tackle Marine Pollution" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:39:45] <c0lo_> =submit bravo https://abcnews.go.com
[08:39:47] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03At Least 2 Florida School Districts Refuse to Allow Students to Opt Out of Wearing Masks" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:40:31] <c0lo_> ^^^ “If something happened and things went sideways for us this week and next week as we started school, and heaven forbid we lost a child to this virus, I can’t just simply blame the governor of the state. I can’t,”
[08:41:42] <c0lo_> =submit https://www.axios.com
[08:41:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Dallas Schools to Require Masks for Students and Teachers in Defiance of Gov. Abbott's Order" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:43:27] <c0lo_> =submit https://www.houstonchronicle.com
[08:44:08] <chromas> is this the Covid Nasturbation Network?
[08:50:31] <c0lo_> Yes, except no covid. Wanna nasturbate?
[08:52:02] <chromas> well duh
[09:03:59] <c0lo_> =submit what-the-triple-fuck? https://arstechnica.com
[09:04:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Uber Asked Contractor to Allow Video Surveillance in Employee Homes, Bedrooms" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:05:46] <c0lo_> =submit https://www.theverge.com
[09:05:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Apple Keeps Shutting Down Employee-run Surveys on Pay Equity" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:06:57] <c0lo_> =submit cowards https://www.theguardian.com
[09:06:59] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Washington State County is First in US to Ban New Fossil Fuel Infrastructure" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:09:13] * chromas puts on his robe and nizard hat
[09:10:44] <chromas> https://www.propublica.org
[09:10:45] <systemd> ^ 03Thousands of Patients Were Implanted With Heart Pumps That the FDA Knew Could Be Dangerous
[09:26:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Anti-Piracy Firm Asks Google to Block 127.0.0.1 - https://sylnt.us - own-goal
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[09:47:54] <raxas> =submit https://www.vaccinewars.com
[09:47:57] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Swedish Professor: People Will Need FIVE Vaccine Doses for Immunity, and If You Don’t Submit, You" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:48:12] <chromas> only five so far
[09:48:18] <chromas> it'll keep going up like masks
[09:49:01] <raxas> ’ breaks the bot
[09:49:48] <chromas> shouldn't be there in the first place
[09:49:53] <chromas> sanitizing inputs is for wimps
[09:50:55] <chromas> hm, that question mark only appears in irc and not in the farticle output
[09:51:25] <chromas> probably got chopped by byte instead of character for irc output
[09:52:40] <raxas> it's static text: <title>Swedish professor: People will need FIVE vaccine doses for immunity, and if you don’t submit, you’ll no longer qualify as “fully vaccinated”</title>
[09:53:22] <chromas> yeah and there's no reason to escape those characters. it's all the site's fault and the bot is perfect :D
[09:54:05] <raxas> https://stosberg.net
[09:54:07] <systemd> ^ 03RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK - Unicode Table
[09:54:34] <raxas> https://stosberg.net
[09:54:36] <systemd> ^ 03LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK - Unicode Table
[09:55:14] <chromas> yes, we all know what they are
[09:55:17] <chromas> and they're in the article output
[09:55:45] <c0lo_> you think systemd will learn if you just tell it to?
[09:57:09] <raxas> what about making the bot source public?
[09:59:28] <c0lo_> That would be in violation of obscenity laws, raxas.
[10:00:44] <c0lo_> E.g. some may like goatse, but most software programmers would suffer a stroke or something if exposed to a source code written by chromas.
[10:02:58] <c0lo_> I just finished making a batch of soap. I'll get to a diy covid vaccine starting tomorrow, getting in touch with these guys.
[10:03:00] <c0lo_> https://www.technologyreview.com
[10:03:01] <systemd> ^ 03Some scientists are taking a DIY coronavirus vaccine, and nobody knows if it’s legal or if it works
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[10:09:04] <c0lo_> https://pbs.twimg.com
[10:10:12] <c0lo_> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
[10:10:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Bayer Loses Appeal of Ruling That its Weed Killer Causes Cancer" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[10:19:56] <c0lo_> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[10:19:59] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pay Cut: Google Employees Who Work From Home Could Lose Money" (30p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[11:56:14] <raxas> =submit https://www.globaltimes.cn
[11:56:19] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Guinea Confirms First Case of Marburg Virus" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:57:09] <raxas> =submit https://www.oneindia.com
[11:57:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Deadly Marburg Virus Detected in Guinea: Origin, Transmission, Symptoms, Key Facts" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:05:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Claims 92% Battery Cell Material Recovery in New Recycling Process - https://sylnt.us
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[14:24:21] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[14:24:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Student Proves Twitter Algorithm ‘Bias’ Toward Lighter, Slimmer, Younger Faces" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:25:42] <c0lo> =submit https://www.space.com
[14:25:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NASA, DOE Fund Three Nuclear Thermal Space Propulsion Concepts" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:28:08] <c0lo> =submit starve-all-lawyers https://theconversation.com
[14:28:24] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Robots are Coming for the Lawyers – Which May be Bad for Tomorrow's Attorneys but Great for Anyone" (8p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:31:35] <c0lo> =submit how-fast-to-detect-a-demented-AI https://www.bbc.com
[14:31:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Artificial Intelligence May Diagnose Dementia in a Day" (30p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:35:43] <c0lo> =submit https://www.insider.com
[14:35:46] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Swiss Protest After a Court Reduced a Rape Sentence Because Rape Was 11 Minutes Long" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:36:01] <c0lo> speedy gonzales
[14:41:47] <c0lo> =submit take-a-transplant-from-younger-mice https://www.sciencemag.org
[14:41:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New Poo, New You? Fecal Transplants Reverse Signs of Brain Aging in Mice" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:44:28] <FatPhil> Artificial intelligence diagnoses dementia almost instantly!
[14:45:46] <c0lo> Is the diagnosis right too?
[14:48:06] <FatPhil> no alpha errors, no beta errors. once sentence is usually enough to demonstrate that they only have artificial intelligence.
[14:48:13] <FatPhil> -c
[14:56:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Desktop and All-in-One Arm Linux Computers Launched with Baikal-M Processor - https://sylnt.us - computers-ᴙ-us
[15:55:17] <Teckla> Holy crap, take a gander at the home page of freenode, lol
[15:55:19] <Teckla> They've gone full nutter
[15:59:13] <t3> anyone who makes claim to nobility is obviously a psychopath
[16:15:17] <raxas> for all imperial nobility, psychopathy is a virtue
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[16:19:52] <FatPhil> what's prince andrew done now?
[16:27:00] <raxas> HIH just hates apple for rummaging his honest pics collection
[16:30:28] <AzumaHazuki> Cuomo resigned finally. Good. Now can goddamn DeathSentence and Abbatoir follow?! Cuomo's a scumbag but at least he isn't a mass murderer by proxy
[16:31:37] <AzumaHazuki> at this point a giant meteor strike on Florida would count as gentrification and also significantly raise the average IQ of the state
[16:33:31] <FatPhil> New York Governor Andrew Cuomo = Moron uncovered? Yea, wrong work. (anagram)
[16:51:30] <FatPhil> New York Governor's Andrew Cuomo ~ corners overworked young woman
[16:56:28] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://newatlas.com from the not-either-fine-or-dead dept
[16:56:31] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Long-lasting Immune Abnormalities Detected in Recovered COVID-19 Patients" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:36:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Japanese Scientists Tried Mailing Freeze-Dried Mouse Sperm on a Postcard – Here’s What They Discover - https://sylnt.us - keep-it-clean
[18:16:56] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.nytimes.com Killing seniors OK, stalking women not OK
[18:17:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Cuomo Resigns Amid Scandals, Ending Decade-Long Run in Disgrace" (49p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:18:19] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.nbcnews.com about 30 years late
[18:18:22] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo Resigns After Sexual Harassment Allegations" (32p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:19:51] <Runaway1956> =submit https://nypost.com Cuomo: a greater threat than COVID!
[18:19:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Andrew Cuomo Resigns as Governor of New York" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:23:08] <FatPhil> me can hear "No thanks" being typed worldwide...
[18:23:20] * FatPhil gives me a '/'
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[18:23:47] <SoyCow6931> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[18:23:51] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New York Governor Cuomo Resigns After Sexual Harassment Findings" (54p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:23:57] <FatPhil> dupe!
[18:24:27] <SoyCow6931> so sort it out
[18:24:54] <FatPhil> Dear 4% of the world, the other 96% of the world aren't so interested in your petty internal squabbles.
[18:24:57] <janrinok> I'm not sure where they fit in the STEM topic list....
[18:25:38] <Runaway1956> lol
[18:25:59] <FatPhil> maybe we need a 'US' nexus?
[18:26:22] <Runaway1956> I think "Breaking News" is the proper category, but what do I know?
[18:26:33] <janrinok> FP only if we get new editors to do all the work.
[18:27:01] <janrinok> Runaway1956, Breaking News that is related to this site's interests - not any old story that you can dig up
[18:27:44] <janrinok> and if you are not sure of this sites interests, read what FatPhil wrote a few lines back
[18:28:49] <janrinok> Feel free to put them in your journal where the 4% can have at them, though
[18:28:53] <Runaway1956> lol
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[18:38:09] <Runaway1956> Is this really the last "breaking news" story, from 2014? https://soylentnews.org
[18:38:13] <systemd> ^ 03The Vanishing American Male Worker - SoylentNews
[18:38:16] <Runaway1956> That don't seem right
[18:38:33] <Runaway1956> I'm pretty sure that Bytram has used it much more recently
[18:41:08] <raxas> boru: that one RS Oph may be einsteinian white hole, not just a simple "recurrent nova"
[18:41:18] <janrinok> Well we have a topic of 'Careers and Education' but we haven't got one for random political figures getting caught doing something they shouldn't
[18:42:56] <janrinok> ... and you had to go back to 2014 to find that example?
[18:48:04] <janrinok> There have been many Breaking News stories - terrorist attacks, times of military tension, even the earlier COVID stories when people were still trying to sort out what was happening.
[19:04:43] <boru> raxas; Heh, it's a fairly well understood system. I've taken my telescopes out to have a look at it and image it.
[19:07:23] <Runaway1956> janrinok misses the point: I don't see "breaking news" after 2014 - something don't seem right
[19:08:15] <Runaway1956> it seems the code has lost the links to subsequent stories?
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[19:21:29] <FatPhil> latest breaking news story is https://soylentnews.org
[19:21:31] <systemd> ^ 03US Companies Hit by 'Colossal' Cyber-Attack - SoylentNews
[19:22:12] <FatPhil> that's the top story on https://soylentnews.org
[19:22:14] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[19:34:23] <Runaway1956> Ahhh, there's also this breaking news story - https://soylentnews.org
[19:34:26] <systemd> ^ 03U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Dies at 87 - SoylentNews
[19:34:49] <Runaway1956> Say what you will about RBG, she isn't STEM.
[19:34:56] <chromas> You might be stuck in the politics nexus or something
[19:35:10] <Runaway1956> or something
[19:35:37] <Runaway1956> the guy who killed ten thousand old people kinda transcends politics though
[19:36:37] <chromas> no remember he moved them over to the hospitals so it doesn't count
[19:38:45] * Teckla is suffering from politics exhaustion, and honestly wishes SN were more nerdy and less politicksy
[19:38:54] <Teckla> (In terms of story selection)
[20:05:10] <AzumaHazuki> well, the good people have mostly been driven off, the fanatics and shitposting trolls are more energetic than ever, and no one in power seems to give half a rotten weasel gonad
[20:17:41] <t3> I think part of the problem with running stories across a broad spectrum is that expertise and interest aren't evenly spread among users
[20:17:50] <AzumaHazuki> boy that's for goddamn sure
[20:18:54] <t3> so a perfectly good poster on a space science topic might shitpost on compsci topics out of boredom
[20:25:24] <AzumaHazuki> i'm thinking more about the people who deliberately spread misinformation
[20:25:56] <AzumaHazuki> specifically, thinking about what their Hells are going to be like. maybe they'll not only burn, but the demons around them will tell them the flames are a Chinese/Democrat hoax
[20:35:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mars Rover Comes Up Empty in First Try at Getting Rock Sample - https://sylnt.us - I-can't-dig-that
[20:38:40] <t3> the entire point of politics is to disable rational thought and replace it with groupthink, it is not a problem that can be solved on SN-scale
[20:51:19] <AzumaHazuki> stuff like this is why i'm not all that upset about civilization likely collapsing in ~20 years
[20:51:42] <AzumaHazuki> i just hope like hell i die quickly. need to replace the metoclopramide in my suicide kit in a few years if i'm unlucky
[20:54:19] <t3> civilization will not collapse, just the current societies
[20:54:57] <t3> and they will be replaced with those that manage to collapse less or not at all
[20:55:43] <AzumaHazuki> that kind of collapse will take most of humanity with it, is the problem. our current civilization is both massively interconnected and incredibly fragile
[20:56:15] <boru> In some respects, our very broken system is somewhat ingrained in our civilisation, or at least, what our civilisation has become in modern times.
[20:56:43] <boru> You need to tear down a broken system to build something better in its place.
[20:59:14] <AzumaHazuki> oh, agreed, but the "correction" will likely kill several billion of us while it happens
[20:59:26] <AzumaHazuki> and the people who least deserve to survive are the most likely to
[21:00:14] <t3> sudden nuclear annihilation is a possibility, but a slow byzantine collapse is more likely IMO
[21:00:42] * chromas stocks up on bo'le caps
[21:04:31] <boru> I oft think things will end up like in Lucifer's Hammer; you'll get bands of people who shouldn't survive surviving because of opportunistic tribalism.
[21:04:46] <boru> In such a catastrophic scenario, that is.
[21:04:47] <AzumaHazuki> that's what has me scared honestly. i'm fine with my shadow outliving me in the aftermath of a close-range nuclear blast
[21:05:24] <AzumaHazuki> but seeing the world descend the rest of the way into savagery...this serves no learning purpose for me. of all people in this room i know how awful humans can be
[21:05:40] <boru> I think you'll see civilisation going out not with a bang, but with a whimper, to paraphrase another work.
[21:05:52] <boru> It'll be like Rome, or Germany after WW1.
[21:05:55] <boru> Slow decay.
[21:06:01] <AzumaHazuki> not a whimper. long, protracted moans of agony. and as always the innocent will suffer most
[21:06:33] <boru> Innocence is a very human construct, and quite subjective.
[21:07:07] <boru> You survive or you don't, regardless of whether you are pond scum or a hero of humanity.
[21:07:20] <AzumaHazuki> put it this way: the poor farmer in Ghana is not culpable for any of this compared even to one of us in the first world, let alone for example Jeff Bezos
[21:07:48] <boru> And he'll probably survive longer than Jeff Bezos.
[21:08:06] <boru> For many people on the planet, life won't change very much.
[21:08:07] <AzumaHazuki> good. i'd say he deserves to and i hope he continues farming and prospering as much as possible for him
[21:08:16] <boru> In this case, I agree.
[21:08:51] <boru> Those surviving now will continue to survive "after". The rich and fat will be the ones who have a hard time adjusting.
[21:09:10] <AzumaHazuki> ...you know, my nutty little brother may actually be onto something. latest news is he bought a trailer and is headed up to central-northern NY. i know he's been doing urban gardening a while
[21:09:32] <AzumaHazuki> maybe i'll go join him in a few years. i know some things about woodworking and construction, a lot about food, cooking, soil science, and medicine...
[21:09:36] <boru> Whilst you'll probably agree with the outlooks and philosophies of Kurt Saxon, his survivalist fiction is actually quite accurate, imho.
[21:09:43] <boru> Err, disagree. Strongly.
[21:09:50] <boru> He has some funny ideas.
[21:09:59] <t3> starvation will kill the majority in a sudden collapse, the environment isn't able to support us even if we all knew how to live in it
[21:10:09] <AzumaHazuki> i just have to laugh at all the idiot gibbertarians who see this oncoming crisis as something that will let them "be free."
[21:10:17] <boru> I think those practical skills are something you should nurture.
[21:10:26] <boru> Indeed. Don't get me started.
[21:10:57] <AzumaHazuki> there is a certain subset of people who seem to want this to happen because they think "those people" are holding them back (whoever "those people" are)
[21:11:22] <AzumaHazuki> these clowns actually think they're rugged individualists. they think they'll last at most more than a couple of weeks to a month
[21:11:35] <boru> I've come across them. Most have never gone without anything any day in their lives.
[21:11:38] <boru> Indeed.
[21:13:17] <boru> Anyway, I could waffle on about this subject for a while, but I had better get my arse off to bed.
[21:13:21] <Bytram> Runaway1956: Actually, the most recent "Breaking News" story was posted almost a year ago (on 2020-09-17) by takyon: https://soylentnews.org
[21:13:24] * boru absconds.
[21:13:25] <systemd> ^ 03U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Dies at 87 - SoylentNews
[21:15:33] <Bytram> *my* most recent "Breaking News" story was 5 years ago (on 2016-06-30): https://soylentnews.org
[21:16:30] <Bytram> takyon's story got 246 comments; mine got 45.
[21:38:51] <Bytram> looking further, it appears most of the "Breaking News" (BN) stories were *submitted* with that category and the editors failed to notice and you are seeing the ones that slipped through. I know I've had to correct quite a few submissions! As it was explained to me, BN should be reserved for something that you might interrupt a corporate board meeting for. Given that RBG's passing occurred near the end of Trump's presidency and gave him a
[21:38:52] <Bytram> chance to further try to stack the US Supreme Court with potentially decade's long implications (including and forthcoming deliberations on Trump's presidency), I could see a case could be made for BN. Also, for the most part, editors mostly rely on other editors to use their best judgment. Yes, we might do some light editing or have a discussion on IRC, but again we try generally defer to each other's knowledge and expertise.
[21:50:25] <Bytram> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[21:50:25] <systemd> ^ 03Siberia’s wildfires are bigger than all the world’s other blazes combined
[22:05:00] <c0lo> =submit breaking-news https://thehill.com
[22:05:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Senate Passes $1T Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill in Major Victory for Biden" (31p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:05:05] <c0lo> (grin)
[22:05:44] <chromas> mmmm, pork
[22:07:14] <FatPhil> wasn't he aiming for $3.5T?
[22:08:05] <chromas> don't worry; inflation will bring it to 3.5 in a couple months
[22:09:03] <c0lo> =submit this-is-pork https://www.nextgov.com
[22:09:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NSA Awards Secret $10 Billion Contract to Amazon" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:09:19] <c0lo> Secret pork, come to it.
[22:09:24] <chromas> hm, who has the bigger datacenter e-peen?
[22:09:45] <c0lo> This is why they need more pork, yes.
[22:19:06] <c0lo> This is quite interesting https://soylentnews.org
[22:19:08] <systemd> ^ 03Long-lasting Immune Abnormalities Detected in Recovered COVID-19 Patients: SoylentNews Submission
[22:26:35] <AzumaHazuki> that was my sub
[22:27:18] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki++
[22:27:18] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 80
[22:28:22] <c0lo> gtg & get pfizered
[22:43:19] <FatPhil> midweek pfizering, that's hardcore
[22:47:22] <c0lo> I do have 2 weeks of "Covid Time Off" entitlement this year, might as well use some for the purpose.
[22:52:10] <Runaway1956> wait wait wait!! Did I get phizered before FP did?
[22:52:46] <Runaway1956> Scotty, charge the pfizers to full power!
[23:06:56] <c0lo> Shoot Scotty from Marketing down, Runaway1956. https://www.lifehacker.com.au
[23:06:59] <systemd> ^ 03Where The Legend Of 'Scotty From Marketing' Began
[23:07:36] <c0lo> Context https://www.theguardian.com
[23:07:38] <systemd> ^ 03'Up the front' to 'it's not a race': how Australia's bungled Covid vaccine rollout unfolded – video
[23:16:33] <Runaway1956> The important question is, have you vaxxed the drop bears?
[23:19:04] <Runaway1956> As for Scotty from marketing - Captain Kirk doesn't know who he is
[23:26:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New "Glowworm Attack" Recovers Audio from Devices’ Power LEDs - https://sylnt.us - bright-idea
[23:27:57] <Runaway1956> Oooooh, Crime Minister - I like that!