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[00:05:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The State Department and Three Other US Agencies Earn a D for Cybersecurity - https://sylnt.us - go-stand-in-the-corner
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[01:46:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Climate Crisis: Scientists Spot Warning Signs of Gulf Stream Collapse - https://sylnt.us - climate-change-is-a-heated-debate
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[02:35:26] <AzumaHazuki> ohhhh, fuck. this is the big one i was hoping wouldn't happen
[02:40:03] <t3> https://www.vice.com
[02:40:04] <systemd> ^ 03MIT Predicted in 1972 That Society Will Collapse This Century. New Research Shows We’re on Schedule.
[02:41:36] <t3> as prophecized, we will self-destruct due to short-sighted greed and hubris
[02:49:49] <AzumaHazuki> that's the one. ugh, it feels so weird living in a doomed timeline. some part of me is actually relieved though
[02:50:15] <AzumaHazuki> i'm going to keep at it as long as i can, but when the inevitable water and food wars start, i'm going out on my own terms. not sticking around for that shit
[03:44:24] <c0lo> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[03:44:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Apple Plans to Scan US iPhones for Child Abuse Imagery" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:45:02] <c0lo> This one wth a nod to Runaway1956 https://melmagazine.com
[03:45:03] <systemd> ^ 03Alt-Right Coloradans Went to War with an Alpaca Farm
[03:50:37] <c0lo> =submit https://interestingengineering.com
[03:50:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The US Navy's New Solar Aircraft Will Fly for 90 Days Without Landing" (7p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:54:10] <c0lo> =submit those Singaporeans and their common sense https://www.vice.com
[03:54:13] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03British Anti-Mask Expat Sent to Mental Hospital" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:54:21] <AzumaHazuki> did the Alpacas kick their asses? :v
[03:54:58] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki: no, the dwellers armed themselves to their teeth.
[03:55:37] <AzumaHazuki> so, good guys with guns?
[03:58:15] <c0lo> =submit https://www.newsweek.com
[03:58:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03China Tells U.S. "Enough With Sanctions!" and Pledges to Support Cuba" (62p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:59:29] <c0lo> Dickheads https://www.usatoday.com
[03:59:30] <systemd> ^ 03Time to reclaim masculinity from Donald Trump and fellow Republicans
[04:00:48] <c0lo> =submit https://www.economist.com
[04:00:51] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Robots are Poised to Start Unloading Lorries" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:16:18] <AzumaHazuki> there's gonna be a housing crisis in hell when this lot dies
[04:25:46] <raxas> not really if hell implements pure boson statistics
[04:28:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fasting May Help Ward Off Infections, Study in Mice Suggests - https://sylnt.us - feed-a-cold-starve-a-fever^W-infection
[04:48:05] <AzumaHazuki> https://imgur.com it's time
[04:48:06] <systemd> ^ 03Bugs bunny cuts florida off America.
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[05:13:20] <c0lo> It'll be the hurricanes to wash Florida away if Gulf Stream stops.
[05:15:36] <Sulla> The one guy who would be sad about the loss will be devistated
[05:35:34] <c0lo> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
[05:35:37] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03UK Arrests 11 Over Racist Abuse Targeting Black England Players" (41p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:47:38] <Runaway1956> Nice propaganda piece c0lo
[05:48:10] <Runaway1956> except - alt-righters don't give much of a damn about queers
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[05:49:57] <Runaway1956> Actually, I'm not sure whether it's actual propaganda, or mere fantasy
[05:55:43] <c0lo> What's fantasy, Runaway1956? The idea that trans and queers can respond in the same terms if you force them?
[05:56:40] <c0lo> (or what piece you are refering to as fantasy?)
[06:26:00] <chromas> Need Bugs to stop by SoCal and Portland OR as well
[06:47:09] <c0lo> chromas longs to buy a seaside property, maybe one on the beach.
[06:52:48] <chromas> I want to buy landlocked property, then have it become seaside for maximum stonks
[07:00:53] <raxas> that's ideal option to build a heavily fortified space port
[07:01:20] <raxas> no need to wait for sea coming
[07:10:04] <c0lo> chromas, your plan is good if you can get a piece of Kryptonite
[07:12:50] <FatPhil> Saving up for enough to buy a seaside property next to the bay of Riga, as when temperatures are 5 degrees higher, the baltic will be the next mediterranian.
[07:16:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Plans to Scan US iPhones for Child Abuse Imagery - https://sylnt.us - can-you-picture-that?
[07:21:39] <c0lo> I hope you enjoy the smell of hydrogen sulfide, FatPhil, from 1900 the Baltic Sea is hypoxic. I doubt you'll have Mediteraneean conditions there.
[07:26:11] <FatPhil> we've got all the dioxins and mercury from poland - fish is yummy!
[07:26:52] <FatPhil> OK, OK, OK, some of the pollution is from Russia, I'm not that naive to think it's just Poland.
[07:27:04] <raxas> interesting territory, but hard to defend from tanks or pirates
[07:27:27] <FatPhil> Denmark's job is to keep the pirate out
[07:27:39] <FatPhil> one at a time, apparently
[07:28:33] <FatPhil> raxas: you're czech, right? LOL @ ABV: https://untp.beer
[07:28:36] <systemd> ^ 03Únětické Pivo 12° Nefiltrované - Únětický pivovar - Untappd ( https://untappd.com )
[07:29:07] <c0lo> Doing a good job, Denmark. Too few pirates, much global warming.
[07:30:11] <FatPhil> While there are meatballs in the spaghetti, there will be no more pirates
[07:30:33] <chromas> Even buttpirates?
[07:30:47] <FatPhil> dickbuttpirates
[07:31:30] <chromas> I saw some dickbutts on Thingiverse. I'm thinking the best material to use is...TPU
[07:31:59] <FatPhil> dickbuttpirates = but I tasted prick!?! (anagram)
[07:32:13] <raxas> never heard about Únětice lol. I am buying Bordeaux lately, supporting countrymen anti-Macron insurgency in France
[07:33:08] <FatPhil> it's a new brewery to me, it's just that a mate in finland was drinking it last night, and mentioned how wrong the website was. Czech beer's big in Finland right now.
[07:33:14] <FatPhil> I hope the trend hits Estonia too.
[07:34:22] <FatPhil> we shoved about half a dozen cans of .cz beer in our bags before we left, we'll crack them open in the next week or so.
[07:34:57] <chromas> https://www.msn.com
[07:34:58] <systemd> ^ 03Frontier Airlines stands with crew who duct-taped handsy, violent passenger to his seat
[07:35:12] <FatPhil> that better have pics
[07:35:20] <chromas> nope ;"9
[07:35:25] <chromas> :'(
[07:35:30] <FatPhil> chromas--
[07:35:30] <Bender> karma - chromas: 377
[07:35:30] <chromas> "Frontier passenger allegedly touched 2 flight attendants breasts, then screamed his parents are worth $2 million, before punching a flight attendant."
[07:35:51] <chromas> oh wait the tweet has vidya
[07:35:55] <chromas> https://twitter.com
[07:36:29] <chromas> youtube-dl doesn't seem to work with it though
[07:37:08] <chromas> That's not duc[k|t] tape
[07:38:09] <FatPhil> chromas++
[07:38:09] <Bender> karma - chromas: 378
[07:39:29] <FatPhil> in fact, that id was so good
[07:39:31] <FatPhil> chromas++
[07:39:31] <Bender> karma - chromas: 379
[07:40:03] <FatPhil> I apologise for calling your resourcefulness into question
[07:41:43] <raxas> now I vaguely remember where Únětice is, it was in the elementary schoolbooks as bronze age settlement
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[08:06:52] <c0lo> =submit open access doi-10.3390/quat4030024 https://thehill.com
[08:06:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "0328,000-year-old Cave Lion Cub Found in Perfect Condition" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:07:26] <boru> Perfect condition? It's still alive?
[08:07:58] <FatPhil> has a thorn in its paw, otherwise fine
[08:08:39] <boru> Being alive for 28k years would be a thorn in anyone's paw.
[08:08:53] <FatPhil> he's very *very* andgry
[08:08:58] <FatPhil> -d
[08:09:15] <FatPhil> chromas - when's my kbd arriving?
[08:09:36] <boru> I would be too, being a thought experiment for so long. "Open this bloody box, I'm still alive!"
[08:18:26] <c0lo> =submit https://www.vice.com
[08:18:29] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Leaked Document Says Google Fired Dozens of Employees for Data Misuse" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:20:14] <c0lo> Hey, WWW makes 30 today!
[08:20:19] <c0lo> https://web30.web.cern.ch
[08:20:22] <systemd> ^ 0330th Anniversary of the World Wide Web
[08:20:30] <progo> migrating from gopher was a mistake
[08:20:31] <c0lo> =submit https://web30.web.cern.ch
[08:20:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "0330th Anniversary of the World Wide Web" (8p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:20:47] <chromas> did you Czech your inbox
[08:21:23] <progo> can we celebrate the 30th anniversary of the web by delivering story pages as text instead of as a program?
[08:21:38] <chromas> That DOI earlier contained "quat", which made me think of quatloos
[08:21:44] <progo> (not soylent; but like 60% of everyone else who has stories)
[08:21:47] <chromas> for some reason I though those were a Star Wars thing
[08:22:23] <c0lo> you still have lynx, progo. Only 29yo.
[08:22:45] <chromas> No data for you! You execute random unknown software off the internet like a good cumssumer
[08:23:47] <chromas> Interesting, the downhill usually starts in the thirties. Does that mean he web is about to get far, far worse than it already has?
[08:24:06] <progo> its tits are going to start sagging
[08:24:34] <chromas> don't forget the balls
[08:24:38] <chromas> they always forget the balls
[08:24:43] <boru> The downhill started in September 1993.
[08:26:36] <chromas> So it just never left the terrible twos?
[08:26:45] <chromas> Wait a minute; that site says 2019
[08:26:45] <c0lo> =submit https://www.nbcnews.com
[08:26:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'Never Seen Anything Like It': Delta is Making a Growing Number of Kids Very Sick" (31p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:27:34] <chromas> People still fly Delta?
[08:27:42] <progo> clean the air filters
[08:28:14] <chromas> They should go with Frontier—they'll keep the kids in czech with some tape
[08:28:35] <boru> They still have cassette players onboard?
[08:29:56] <chromas> Yeah. The tape holds extra secure if the kids are vaxxed
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[08:35:06] <progo> I got to a stopping point in my job like 90 minutes ago. I should sleep
[08:35:55] <progo> tip of the day: PHP plus HTML and CSS and JS, and "Plotly" for JavaScript (free software) are a great combo for turning data from text files into rendered reports with tables and charts
[08:36:07] <progo> use wkhtmltopdf to render to static single-file PDFs if needed
[08:36:14] * progo goes off to bed
[08:37:05] <boru> You need all of that to turn text into rendered reports?
[08:37:31] <FatPhil> misread september 1939
[08:37:35] <progo> let's me write the report layout in HTML, which I know. with processing done in PHP, which I know
[08:37:43] <boru> I see.
[08:38:41] <boru> Well yes, different things have been going downhill since different times.
[08:39:44] <FatPhil> and things were really great before then, oh yes-siree
[08:41:15] <boru> Not since WW1, no.
[08:41:27] <raxas> the web is in irreparable disrepair
[08:41:34] <boru> I agree.
[08:41:51] <boru> Noble idea, but ultimately a mistake.
[08:42:27] <boru> The last nail in the coffin was social media.
[08:42:33] <raxas> it should be done in a pure declarative, preferably logical, language
[08:42:58] <boru> I thought it would save the web in some respects i.e. that it would keep the morons in a containment zone, but alas, it didn't work.
[08:43:44] <progo> found some nutter the other day who publishes a blog only in PDF format
[08:43:55] * boru chuckles.
[08:43:56] <progo> except some of the PDF files are also mp3 files
[08:44:53] <boru> Amateur. They should write all of their blog posts as quines.
[08:51:49] <raxas> black cat against black bear https://www.youtube.com
[08:51:51] <systemd> ^ 03Вася, успокойся
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[09:38:22] <c0lo> =submit https://www.abc.net.au
[09:38:26] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08AstraZeneca's COVID-19 Vaccine Rebranding to 'Vaxzevria' Ahead of International Travel Restart - ABC" (35p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[10:07:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Peloton Treadmill Owners Will be Able to Run Again Without a Subscription - https://sylnt.us - internet-of-things-you-don't-actually-own
[10:37:35] <chromas> lol
[10:37:55] <chromas> So you couldn't run out if your subscription did
[10:38:50] <chromas> So this keyboard I made was just a basic one using extra stuff I had, so there's no F-keys. I made it so I can do Fn-numkey to F keys
[10:38:55] <chromas> I'm beginning to hate myself
[10:39:34] <chromas> =yt don't know what you got 'til it's gone
[10:39:35] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Cinderella - Don't Know What You Got (Till It's Gone) (Stereo Version) (05:50; 130,056,773 views; 👍585,089 👎29,843)
[10:39:42] <chromas> Oooh, stereo
[10:41:35] <chromas> Ask FatPhil: 'til vs till
[10:46:15] <boru> One tills one's fields.
[10:50:15] <chromas> Bu is using "till" in place of "until" legit or lazy?
[10:50:18] <FatPhil> I'm one of the few people I know who still uses "till", "until" and "'til" seem to have taken over.
[10:50:33] <chromas> (putting aside that apostrophating is already being lazy)
[10:51:06] <FatPhil> =yt big yellow taxi
[10:51:07] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Counting Crows - Big Yellow Taxi ft. Vanessa Carlton (Official Video) (03:46; 27,813,066 views; 👍143,266 👎6,158)
[10:51:20] <FatPhil> fux yoo
[10:51:34] <FatPhil> =yt joni taxi
[10:51:34] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell (02:16; 8,403,689 views; 👍49,554 👎1,482)
[10:51:39] <chromas> I didn't even know Cunting Crows had more than that one song
[10:51:53] <FatPhil> i've vaguely heard of the band
[10:52:05] <FatPhil> someone famous in it, I think
[10:52:11] <chromas> But I do remember that Joni song
[10:52:37] <FatPhil> joni mitchell fucking rocks
[10:54:21] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[10:54:23] <systemd> ^ 03What Makes This Song Great?™ Ep.91 Joni Mitchell
[11:21:12] <FatPhil> g/f and I have a bunch of song lines that we quote at each other when appropriate, and Joni has provided about half a dozen of them.
[11:22:19] <FatPhil> for example, when people ask us why we're not married after 23 years together, it's "we don't need a piece of paper from the city hall"
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[12:39:47] <chromas> =yt tenacious d city hall
[12:39:48] <systemd> https://youtube.com - tenacious d - city hall (09:03; 1,089,786 views; 👍4,230 👎166)
[12:46:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 30th Anniversary of the World Wide Web - https://sylnt.us - happy-birthday-to-you
[12:56:41] <FatPhil> he quite likes Mitchell!
[12:56:56] <chromas> What about Webb?
[12:57:43] <FatPhil> Blue is possibly the finest solo-female-singer-songwriter albums ever composed.
[12:58:56] <FatPhil> =yt patti rothberg treat me like dirt
[12:58:57] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Patti Rothberg Treat Me Like Dirt (Original music video) (04:15; 38,432 views; 👍344 👎9)
[13:00:38] <chromas> if you say "$x after $x after $x", are the items listed in reverse order?
[13:12:06] <boru> It's a paradox. If you read it from right to left, it's still in reverse order.
[13:15:02] <chromas> Paradox was better than Access. Fight me
[13:15:49] <boru> There'd only be two hits in it; me hitting you, and you hitting the ground.
[13:23:22] <FatPhil> =yt aaQwUqf_BPw
[13:23:23] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Two Hits. Me Hitting You, You Hitting The Floor ::: The Breakfast Club (06; 20,633 views; 👍62 👎3)
[13:25:03] <chromas> ok newer, much more important question
[13:25:08] <Teckla> boru: Breakfast Club? :)
[13:25:25] <Teckla> FatPhil: You beat me to it.
[13:25:32] <chromas> Does gaydar emit gay particles? And if so, does that make it the ultimate "takes one to know one"?
[13:25:42] * Teckla kissed his first girlfriend after going to see The Breakfast Club with her.
[13:26:44] <boru> Old Irish saying, AFAIK.
[13:27:19] <boru> I think the original was them landing in the grave, though.
[13:27:26] <Teckla> boru: Sounds appropriate :)
[13:27:30] <Teckla> Oh dear.
[13:32:29] <FatPhil> chromas - are you using passive gayday or active gaydar?
[13:32:45] <chromas> oh good point
[13:33:21] <chromas> and it's probably based on waves instead of particles
[13:33:25] <chromas> maybe even vibes
[13:33:59] <FatPhil> cisparticles and transparticles, please
[13:35:28] <chromas> oh light
[13:35:39] <chromas> identifies as a wave or particle, so it's panbinary
[13:37:29] <Teckla> Wavicles
[13:38:37] <chromas> Teckla: s/(i)/st\1/
[13:38:37] <SedBot> <chromas> <Teckla> Wavsticles
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[14:11:51] <Teckla> I've said it before and I'll say it again, I love SedBot.
[14:12:15] <Teckla> Is SedBot custom code? If the source available?
[14:14:14] <SedBot> teehee
[14:14:24] <chromas> SedBot:
[14:14:24] * SedBot is a 54-line awk script, https://github.com
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[14:15:33] <c0lo> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[14:15:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Climate Contrarians Predicted the World Would Cool" (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:17:00] <chromas> Real Authentic™ climate scientists also predicted global cooling a few decades ago
[14:21:43] <boru> I also wondered what happend to "acid rain". I presume those alarmists just moved onto something else. They do more harm than good for the environment.
[14:22:20] <boru> People with the power to make legislative change for the environment brush off good ideas because they get lumped into the same camp as those eejits.
[14:22:58] <Teckla> chromas: Thank you!
[14:23:40] * Teckla no longer attempts to engage with climate change deniers, anti-vaxxers, flat earthers, etc.
[14:23:46] <Teckla> Waste of time.
[14:23:56] <chromas> You're welcomes
[14:24:23] <chromas> Anti-vaxxers still aren't very popular
[14:24:37] <chromas> Most of the covid anti-vaxxers aren't regular anti-vaxxers
[14:24:46] <boru> Yeah, I was about to make that point.
[14:24:57] <boru> They're being put into that camp to discredit them.
[14:25:16] <boru> Same old political chestnut.
[14:25:44] <Teckla> ii looks really interesting.
[14:25:47] <boru> No meaningful discussion about their efficacy can take place now.
[14:26:27] <boru> It's either "oh you're just an anti-vaxxer" or "oh you're just a mindless drone that does whatver the government tells you to do", and it ends there.
[14:37:08] <Teckla> I'm probably biased because my wife is a nurse that cares for immuno-compromised children. Watching anti-vaxxer parents give Covid-19 to their children resulting in death or permanent horrible maladies is disheartening.
[14:37:12] <Teckla> :(
[14:39:06] <boru> Similarly so for people giving the vaccine to their children and watching them die, or miscarrying, as has happened in some cases.
[14:39:34] <boru> Loss of life is a tragedy, but basing policy on an appeal to emotion is absurd.
[14:40:09] <boru> There is an alarming amount of propaganda and misinformation circulating on both sides of the covid vaccine debate, as far as I can see.
[14:40:37] <Teckla> Way more propaganda on one side than the other, in my opinion, but...
[14:40:48] <Teckla> Anyway... dropping out of this topic now.
[14:41:40] <boru> Fair enough.
[14:50:40] <t3> what will happen if the overton windows of the two mainstream parties completely separate? are we already there?
[14:52:01] <boru> What country?
[14:52:21] <t3> USA
[14:53:07] <boru> Oh. Balkanisation, probably. The nation is too large to be effectively governed by a single entity.
[14:56:40] <FatPhil> Ain't it about time for a civil war?
[14:57:34] <boru> It probably would lead to a war, given the nature of North Americans. Peaceful resolution and separation is possible, but it wouldn't happen.
[14:59:46] <boru> Consequently, balkanisation would probably make the country more vulnerable to invasion from other countries.
[15:09:17] <Teckla> FatPhil: :(
[15:10:32] <Teckla> The U.S. has survived far, far worse divisiveness. Anyone worried about the U.S. splitting into multiple independent countries has failed to learn from history.
[15:11:18] <Teckla> Many older Americans have experienced worse in their living memories.
[15:11:32] <Teckla> Many of these kinds of things tend to go in cycles. This, too, shall pass.
[15:11:56] <Teckla> Although lots of entities that want to hurt America will beat the "civil war is coming!" drum.
[15:12:58] <boru> I suppose that's what happens when you invade other countries and wage war there for decades.
[15:13:39] <boru> Or carry out covert operations to undermine them like assassinations etc.
[15:13:40] <Teckla> I'm not addressing America's foreign policy. I'm narrowly addressing America's internal politics.
[15:14:09] <t3> isn't one simply an expression of the other?
[15:14:17] <Teckla> That being said, if America withdrew from the rest of the world, I think the rest of the world would quickly realize the stabilizing influence America has.
[15:14:37] * boru rolls eyes.
[15:14:45] <boru> The real world isn't a hollywood film.
[15:15:01] <Teckla> I'm not proud of, and don't support, a lot of America's foreign adventures. But overall, the U.S. is far more of a stabilizing force, than a destabilizing force, on the world.
[15:15:14] <boru> You're trolling now, right?
[15:15:25] <Teckla> Nope. It is truly my viewpoint and opinion.
[15:15:27] <boru> I cannot believe you are being serious with that statement.
[15:15:49] <t3> it's /very/ common to believe that over here
[15:16:05] <Teckla> That being said, I do wish America would have less foreign adventures.
[15:17:13] <boru> Slacktivism makes you feel like you're doing something, I guess.
[15:17:18] <Teckla> So we probably agree on the most important point: we'd like to see America have less foreign adventures.
[15:17:37] <Teckla> And I think that common ground is a good thing.
[15:18:09] <boru> When the outcome doesn't affect you, sure, I guess you have the luxury of that outlook.
[15:18:33] <Teckla> boru: It seems harmless to disagree on whether or not America is an overall positive or negative influence on the world. What's important is our common ground.
[15:19:11] <Teckla> boru: How does it affect you? Not a trick question; I'm genuinely curious. I like to learn about how America affects the rest of the world.
[15:19:30] <boru> Consider visting your local library and reading a history book.
[15:19:54] <boru> Your "common ground" is just brushing things under the carpet.
[15:20:14] <t3> Teckla: we are the number one violent killer in the world, dropping bombs every few seconds
[15:20:28] <Teckla> boru: Now you're just being rude.
[15:20:31] <boru> The majority of your country's populance did little more than cluck their tongues at the endless wars of aggression around the world.
[15:21:26] <Teckla> boru: Hey, all I know is I've extended an olive branch and I'm trying to find common ground -- your response is to insult and kick sand in my face. And, hey, that's fine -- but I'm not going to bother engaging in conversation with you anymore.
[15:21:31] <Teckla> So, like, bye boru.
[15:21:35] <boru> But as I said, "feeling" like you wish you had less forgein adventures makes you feel like you're doing something important.
[15:22:51] <boru> Good idea, /ignore me rather than take responsibility.
[15:23:01] <boru> Stablising force. What a load of wank.
[15:24:26] * Teckla wonders why, when Windows accesses this USB flash drive, the rest of the system seems completely frozen. :(
[15:24:45] <Teckla> Bad drivers? Bad Windows (this seems redundant)?
[15:27:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Leaked Document Says Google Fired Dozens of Employees for Data Misuse - https://sylnt.us - do-evil-if-you-think-you-can-get-away-with-it
[15:30:00] * Teckla waits for the pendulum to swing back to *personal* computing. At least, I hope the pendulum swings back...
[15:42:16] <chromas> Personal cloud
[15:42:25] <chromas> Comes with your own personal jesus
[15:45:17] <t3> it will be personal all right - think neuralink or neural lace
[15:45:58] <t3> on the plus side, ad targeting might get a little better
[15:46:42] <chromas> Windows 11.3 for Cloudgroups
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[15:51:31] <chromas> videos aren't articles
[15:51:53] <chromas> oh hm, I somehow scrolled way, way back
[15:55:15] <chromas> https://interestingengineering.com
[15:55:17] <systemd> ^ 03New US Law Requires Every Car to Have "Alcohol Detection Sensors" to Verify You're Sober
[15:55:38] <chromas> "The U.S. Congress is debating about a massive bill titled "Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act," and it includes a provision that makes it mandatory for cars in the future to have an advanced drunk and impaired driving prevention technology."
[15:56:12] <chromas> Seems like as good a place as any to stick it
[15:58:29] <chromas> That way when you vote against the beer detector, I can say "zomg you voted against infrastructure and jobs! Why do you hate americans?"
[16:11:41] <AzumaHazuki> oh boy, no way is THAT going to be abused
[16:34:44] <Runaway1956> <+chromas> Windows 11.3 for Cloudgroups
[16:34:51] <Runaway1956> chromas++
[16:34:51] <Bender> karma - chromas: 380
[16:37:02] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.frontiersin.org from the peelz! dept.
[16:47:05] * Teckla does some digging and suspects boru is a Russian troll
[16:47:13] <Teckla> Cloudgroups, heh!
[16:47:19] <Teckla> <3 it.
[16:47:41] <Teckla> chromas++
[16:47:41] <Bender> karma - chromas: 381
[16:50:20] <Runaway1956> What time does the midnight train to anywhere leave?
[16:50:57] <Teckla> It's running late. Next update in 30 minutes.
[16:51:27] <Runaway1956> Just checking - it's midnight somewhere . . .
[17:42:40] <Runaway1956> Saved by Babushka
[17:42:43] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[17:42:45] <systemd> ^ 03Belarusian sprinter used Google Translate to get help from Japanese cops
[18:09:26] * AzumaHazuki sighs, has turned 33 in a world that probably won't let her live to 50
[18:09:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 28,000-Year-Old Cave Lion Cub Found in Perfect Condition - https://sylnt.us - is-that-purrfect-condition?
[18:10:22] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://getpocket.com from the bonsai! dept
[18:10:25] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Fast-Growing Mini-Forests Spring Up in Europe to Aid Climate" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:15:48] <raxas> Teckla: your mental escape from reality is futile https://www.rt.com
[18:15:51] <systemd> ^ 03The richest and most war-mongering nation on Earth is still addicted to bombing poor, defenseless nations
[18:24:37] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.theguardian.com from the well-named-grain dept.
[18:24:40] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03‘It Could Feed the World’: Amaranth, a Health Trend 8,000 Years Old That Survived Colonization" (43p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:24:53] <AzumaHazuki> (amaranthos = not rotten/not corrupt/not dying)
[19:09:24] <Teckla> raxas: Says the guy that posts rt.com stories all the time
[19:09:46] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: Happy 33rd Birthday!
[19:11:16] <AzumaHazuki> thanks...i honestly didn't expect to make it this far
[19:16:42] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: Why not?
[19:17:04] <Teckla> I didn't expect it to make it this far either, and I'm old enough to be your father :)
[19:17:11] <Teckla> s/expect it/expect/
[19:17:11] <SedBot> <Teckla> I didn't expect to make it this far either, and I'm old enough to be your father :)
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[19:17:49] <AzumaHazuki> too many close brushes with death, too much time alone
[19:36:55] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: Well, this Internet stranger is glad you're still alive :)
[19:37:12] <AzumaHazuki> thanks, that's sweet of you :)
[19:37:40] <AzumaHazuki> i've been ready to die for a long time though. how ironic, just as my life starts pulling itself together, we find out civilization has perhaps 20 years left
[19:42:05] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: Every morning I wake up, I'm disappointed I'm still alive, heh.
[19:42:11] <Teckla> Depression is a bitch.
[19:42:41] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: What makes you think civilization only has 20 years left?
[19:43:01] <AzumaHazuki> i'm not even depressed, just disappointed humanity's going out this way. climate, pandemic, finances, all of it. everything's so fucking fragile and interconnected
[19:43:07] <AzumaHazuki> there are too many psychopaths
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[20:28:57] <bacterium> sometimes (a lot of times) i think it's best not to care about anything except just a few things that seem to go well, for a change
[20:30:13] <inz> your cousin, the virus, seems to be doing quite well at least
[20:32:11] <FatPhil> illion years apart
[20:32:15] <FatPhil> +b
[20:33:10] <bacterium> this is perhaps the first virus that clearly communicated with people of earth
[20:33:19] <FatPhil> narp
[20:33:29] <FatPhil> it's the one with the most vague message
[20:33:31] <bacterium> hundreds of experts on tv and internet spoke on its behalf
[20:33:54] <FatPhil> previous ones have said simple messages like "ur gonna die"
[20:34:05] <inz> I think windows 95 did that already
[20:34:26] <FatPhil> "you make a grown man cry"
[20:35:00] <inz> Damn you, now it's playing in me head
[20:35:08] <FatPhil> it's a good song
[20:35:42] <FatPhil> don't blame mickiesoft for rolling stones songs
[20:35:50] <FatPhil> "born in the USA"
[20:36:14] <FatPhil> proof that politicians are fucking retards
[20:36:32] <bacterium> we needed more proof for that?
[20:36:38] <bacterium> hahaha
[20:37:01] <inz> only retards want to do the job
[20:37:10] <inz> anyone acually qualified steers way clear of that shit
[20:38:26] <FatPhil> I've met actual politicians, and they are weird creatures
[20:38:38] <bacterium> i blame/praise democracy: an honest, rational, and principled position is unelectable
[20:38:44] <FatPhil> psychopaths and wierdos
[20:40:25] <FatPhil> Lembit Opik occasionally visits here, because of his Estonian connection, but he was a UK MP for a while. I've attempted to have conversations with him, but it's almost impossible.
[20:41:49] <bacterium> how so
[20:42:25] <FatPhil> because he interacts with you in a really weird way
[20:43:27] <FatPhil> there's a "politician" mode that he just drops into which makes you think (justifiably) that you can't trust a single word he's saying.
[20:44:02] <FatPhil> you need to meet a professional politician. They're genuinely weird.
[20:45:46] <chromas> We just need to replace politicians with clouds that get us to vote for them with our wallets and over private information
[20:46:09] <FatPhil> my dad was a local politician, with quite some standing, and we met actual (national) politicians every 5 years at election time
[20:46:38] <FatPhil> anyway - it's "Eggheads" time - see you in half an hour
[20:48:54] <bacterium> o/
[21:26:19] <FatPhil> damn, good one
[21:26:29] <FatPhil> the losers lost
[21:27:02] <FatPhil> the Eggheads have won 21 shows on the trot
[22:02:00] <chromas> They need to take a break before they get a little horse
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[22:35:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Two Trans-Neptunian Objects May Have Migrated Into the Asteroid Belt - https://sylnt.us
[22:41:54] <t3> https://www.youtube.com
[22:41:55] <systemd> ^ 03Tweezers of Sound: Acoustic Manipulation off a Reflective Surface
[22:48:41] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[22:48:42] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Tweezers of Sound: Acoustic Manipulation off a Reflective Surface (12; 61,798 views; 👍88 👎3)
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