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[00:16:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - United States Sells Unique Wu-Tang Clan Album Forfeited by Martin Shkreli - https://sylnt.us
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[01:42:24] <tedious> Python and rust updates at the same time. :(
[02:18:49] <AzumaHazuki> Qui ludo ludos stupidos, lucrare stupidis praemiis
[02:42:39] <Bytram> currently on the site: "If a train station is a place where a train stops, what's a workstation?"
[02:50:09] <AzumaHazuki> i like mine, though it's almost certainly wrong
[02:50:12] <AzumaHazuki> i never studied latin
[03:07:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Eating for Hunger or Pleasure? Regulating These Feeding Behaviors Involves Different Brain Circuits - https://sylnt.us - some-eat-to-live-and-some-live-to-eat
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[03:20:50] <raxas> =submit https://phys.org
[03:20:55] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Astronomers Seek Evidence of Tech Built by Aliens" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[04:15:14] <Sulla> Chromas did you also 3d print keycaps?
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[05:57:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Recalls 4 Million Quest 2 VR Face Liners Over “Rashes and Hives” - https://sylnt.us - Oculus-Quest-2-by-Face-Rash^W-Book
[06:03:41] <chromas> aw I missed 'im
[06:14:36] <chromas> Hm, so do I send back the face liner so Facebook can collect my DNA juice?
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[08:26:48] <c0lo> =submit weather-warning No, seriously https://www.severe-weather.eu
[08:26:51] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Parts of Southern Europe Will be Baking With Around 40-45 °C as the Most Intense Heatwave of Summer" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:35:07] <chromas> Next buzzword: "heat dome"
[08:38:47] <c0lo> Oh yeah, over 40C is a balmy temperature. Dome or not.
[08:38:53] <c0lo> =submit https://www.commondreams.org
[08:38:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Drone Whistleblower Daniel Hale Sentenced to 45 Months in Prison 'for Exposing US War Crimes'" (45p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:40:46] <c0lo> =submit https://kotaku.com
[08:40:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Activision Blizzard Employees Plan Walkout Wednesday to Protest Working Conditions" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:42:02] <c0lo> =submit https://www.houstonpress.com
[08:42:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Texas Children's Confirms It Has Some COVID Kids on Ventilators [UPDATED]" (26p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:42:46] <chromas> Children's Confirms It
[08:43:47] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theregister.com
[08:43:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03eBay Ex-security Boss Sent Down for 18 Months for Cyber-stalking, Witness Tampering" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:44:41] <c0lo> =submit https://www.cnet.com
[08:44:43] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Lucasfilm Hires Deepfake YouTuber Who Fixed Luke Skywalker in the Mandalorian" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:45:37] <chromas> Gonna be locked in the basement with Walt
[08:46:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study Shows Why Beer Mats Do Not Fly in a Straight Line — University Of Bonn - https://sylnt.us - who-wants-to-see-research-funding-request
[08:49:25] <c0lo> =submit KISS https://www.forbes.com
[08:49:28] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Forget Smart Cities, ‘Stupid’ Infrastructure is the Solution for Future Transportation" (41p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:50:11] <c0lo> =submit https://theconversation.com
[08:50:13] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Factories of the Future: We're Spending Heavily to Give Workers Skills They Won't Need by 2030" (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[11:28:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - America's largest retailer will cover 100% of college tuition for its workers - https://sylnt.us - Not-being-so-evil?
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[13:06:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - America's Largest Retailer Will Cover 100% of College Tuition for its Workers - https://sylnt.us - Not-being-so-evil?
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[14:16:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Patches Zero-Day Vulnerability in iOS, iPadOS, macOS Under Active Attack - https://sylnt.us - it-just-works
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[14:52:04] <Teckla> "America's Largest Retailer"? Wal-Mart?
[14:53:47] <requerdanos> I see what you did there, you read either TFS or TFA
[14:55:00] <Teckla> Honestly, I'm mildly annoyed and disappointed they said "America's Largest Retailer" instead of simply naming them.
[14:56:30] <Teckla> Yep, it's Wal-Mart... why couldn't they have just said that?
[14:57:06] <Bytram> https://edition.cnn.com
[14:57:09] <systemd> ^ 03America's largest retailer will cover 100% of college tuition for its workers
[14:57:54] <Bytram> we used what they said -- talk to CNN about it
[14:58:01] <Bytram> =)
[14:58:10] <Teckla> Oh, yeah, not SN's fault :)
[14:58:15] <Bytram> time to get going
[14:58:16] <Teckla> CNN made what I consider a very odd choice
[14:58:20] <Teckla> Bytram: o/
[14:58:57] <raxas> surely you can't hire a robot for 11$/hr. humans are cheap
[14:59:08] <Bytram> 'cause they needed a way for their headline to stand out. maybe? Get eyeballs?
[14:59:31] <Bytram> raxas: yet... cf: self checkouts
[14:59:41] <Teckla> Bytram: Yep. Perhaps "America's Largest Retailer" is also more world-friendly? Maybe lots of countries don't know Wal-Mart is U.S.'s biggest retailer...
[14:59:43] <raxas> s/humans/desperate humans/
[14:59:43] <SedBot> <raxas> surely you can't hire a robot for 11$/hr. desperate humans are cheap
[14:59:45] <Bytram> we're getting there. :/
[15:00:05] <Bytram> raxas++ agreed, sadly
[15:00:05] <Bender> karma - raxas: 4
[15:00:11] <Teckla> Even then, I would have titled it, "Wal-Mart, America's Largest Retailer ..."
[15:00:16] <Bytram> gtg, laters!
[15:00:21] <Teckla> Bye Bytram!
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[15:07:06] <c0lo> FatPhil, https://www.youtube.com
[15:07:07] <systemd> ^ 03Can Physics Be Too Speculative? An Honest Opinion.
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[16:50:35] <Runaway1956> Fun quiz if you like motorcycles - I only got 50%
[16:50:39] <Runaway1956> https://advrider.com
[16:50:41] <systemd> ^ 03Motorcycle Companies' "Other" Businesses - Adventure Rider
[16:57:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hubble Finds First Evidence of Water Vapor at Jupiter’s Moon Ganymede - https://sylnt.us
[17:04:55] <raxas> Runaway1956: the quiz is wrong. example: one of my AIPs proves both suzuki and kawasaki make boats
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[17:13:13] <Runaway1956> raxas - I think the phrasing is key to answering correctly - not looking back to see how the questions were phrased though
[17:15:41] <raxas> though ancient hat maker making helmets is lol
[18:12:11] <raxas> facehugger poison: occulus2 VR set makes people sick skin irritating reaction. no good pages for submit yet
[18:13:52] <Bytram> raxas: I believe that is already in the story queue
[18:13:58] * Bytram checks
[18:15:36] <Bytram> raxas: actually, the story already went live: https://soylentnews.org
[18:15:37] <systemd> ^ 03Facebook Recalls 4 Million Quest 2 VR Face Liners Over “Rashes and Hives” - SoylentNews
[18:16:16] * Bytram notices a minor change to make in the title... brb
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[18:19:58] <Bytram> done' changed smart quotes '“' and '”' to simple quotation marks '"' -- this is important for people who have signed up to have headlines or stories e-mailed to them.
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[18:28:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Recalls 4 Million Quest 2 VR Face Liners Over "Rashes and Hives" - https://sylnt.us - Oculus-Quest-2-by-Face-Rash^W-Book
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[19:38:07] <raxas> =submit https://www.businessinsider.com
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[19:55:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - An AI-Based Lie Detector for Call Center Conversations - https://sylnt.us - oh-good
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[22:06:59] <raxas> https://www.banned.video
[22:13:02] <Runaway1956> Huh - been getting some irritating phone calls, so I decided to double check my "do not call" status
[22:13:08] <Runaway1956> Thank you for registering your phone number with the National Do Not Call Registry. You successfully registered your phone number ending in xxxx on April 27, 2006. Most telemarketers will be required to stop calling you 31 days from your registration date.
[22:13:35] <Runaway1956> I think I need to get some details from the next caller, and lodge a complaint
[22:13:38] <requerdanos> Of course, there is that contingent of telemarketers that could care less.
[22:14:03] <Runaway1956> Yes - but some of these callers are what you might call semi-legit
[22:14:37] <Runaway1956> Dear Wife and I are both over 65 now, and we are getting shittons of "We would like to help you get the most out of social security"
[22:15:03] <Runaway1956> We don't mind the ones in the snail mail - they go straight into the trash
[22:15:21] <Runaway1956> email is not so very bad, just banish them to spam folder
[22:15:29] <Runaway1956> but the telephone?
[22:16:06] <raxas> do not answer unknown numbers
[22:16:30] <Runaway1956> that works well on her cell phone - not so well on the house phone
[22:16:36] <Runaway1956> caller ID almost never works
[22:17:21] <Runaway1956> seriously, when my son calls, we see "Unknown number"
[22:27:10] <raxas> ancient answering machine may help with automation greatly. put it on loudspeaker so you can interrupt it when your relatives call in
[22:27:57] <Runaway1956> That's an idea raxas - I'll look into it
[22:28:17] <raxas> also, using some kind of agency-sounding introduction instead of simple "hello" is fun too. I used to say something like "section 36, please identify yourself"
[22:28:53] <raxas> most intruders just hooked on that
[22:29:55] <Runaway1956> "You have reached Stranger in a Strange Land. State your name and your business, and Stranger may pick up."
[22:31:25] <requerdanos> "You have not reached me, but you're close. Code in please."
[22:35:37] <raxas> a friend of mine used something like "hello, this is rent-a-coffin, what do you need?"
[22:46:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Activison Blizzard Employees Walk Out in Protest Over Sexism, Harassment - https://sylnt.us - Business
[22:47:04] <Bytram> Runaway1956: For a month or two the message on my answering machine (in a suitable monotone voice) was "The number you have dialed 123-456-7890 IS in service at this time. [swap to normal voice] I just can't come to the phone right now; please leave a message after the beep!" I had to change because people kept telling me my phone was out of service!
[22:47:30] <chromas> you gotta start it with the tri-tone
[22:47:35] <Runaway1956> lol
[22:48:19] <Runaway1956> I just remembered that there's a tone you can put on your answering machine - it tells robocallers that your phone is out of order or disconnected or something
[22:48:25] <Bytram> that was ~25-30 years ago.
[22:48:46] <Bytram> that was what chromas was saying...
[22:48:51] <Runaway1956> People don't notice the tone much, but computers respond to it immediately
[22:49:08] <Bytram> do-dah-dee!
[22:50:00] <Bytram> IIRC, it'c called something like SIT (Service Indicator Tone)
[22:50:05] <Bytram> =g SIT (Service Indicator Tone)
[22:50:06] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Call-progress tone - Wikipedia
[22:51:10] <Bytram> bingo!
[22:51:11] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[22:51:12] <systemd> ^ 03Special information tone - Wikipedia
[22:51:23] <Runaway1956> That's exactly what I had in mind
[22:51:30] <Bytram> =)
[22:53:15] * Bytram worked in telephony something like 20 years ago -- fascinating stuff. This was back when a T-1 line was very fast and even more expensive!
[22:53:22] <Runaway1956> I think maybe 'no circuit' is the one I want
[22:55:07] <raxas> =submit https://www.nature.com
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[23:00:42] <Bytram> Runaway1956: that word probably work... could set up a simple PBX on a spare computer, with custom/programmable prompts. "To leave a message, press $offer_message". I want to say SIP(?) but there's something else, similar, whose name escapes me atm.
[23:02:58] <Bytram> I expect an RPi with a little wiring to interface with the phone (and its voltage/current) could handle it easily.
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