#soylent | Logs for 2021-07-27
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[20:57:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Giant Goldfish Problem in US Lake Prompts Warning to Pet Owners - https://sylnt.us - golden-opportunity-to-scale-a-fishy-problem
[20:50:24] <raxas> if all you need is just some free movies, then... macao or tatarstan are good enough
[20:48:58] <raxas> that does not matter for political reasons. it does, for terrorist reasons. but you should know what you are already
[20:46:47] <Ingar> and then random service providers like me have access to your servers
[20:46:15] <raxas> and if you be really wise, you hire servers in countries you currently hate, out of reach of your own government
[20:42:46] <raxas> there is still one quite rational option: build a tiny company, provide vpns to both unwashed masses and yourself. when police/agency/whatever asks for lawful data, you will be the first to know a still could sweep the tracks
[20:40:20] * Teckla is also pretty skeptical of Tor
[20:35:54] <Teckla> It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you!
[19:27:56] <FatPhil> ouch
[19:27:26] <Ingar> work it is
[19:27:14] <Ingar> but then my backup landed in the hospital
[19:27:01] <Ingar> I should have been on vacation
[19:09:52] * FatPhil packs both his passport and his vaccination passport - I haven't needed those for ages. Having a looong weekend from tomorrow onwards. Just Finland, nowhere exotic, but it'll be good to see some old places and some new ones.
[19:03:43] * Ingar whistles The X-Files theme
[19:03:09] <FatPhil> I'm inclined to agree, Teckla. Why wouldn't some be? And if some are, you can't trust any.
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[18:33:37] * Teckla assumes all commercial VPNs are honeypots
[18:09:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - VPN Servers Seized by Ukrainian Authorities Weren’t Encrypted - https://sylnt.us - virtual-protection
[17:12:34] <FatPhil> Any quest always reminds me of Galaxy Quest
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[16:17:57] <Ingar> Dehydrated Water always reminds me of Space Quest
[15:16:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Tops $1 Billion in Profit, Delays Semi Launch - https://sylnt.us
[15:01:24] <raxas> I can imagine a carp brain cyborg controlling a smart weapon
[15:00:36] <Bytram> gtg... laters!
[15:00:25] <Bytram> ;)
[15:00:13] <Bytram> Me pictures SpaceX planning to use their Dragon to launch pigs^W fish in space
[14:59:39] <systemd> ^ 03[MV] REOL - 宵々古今 / YoiYoi Kokon
[14:59:37] <raxas> https://www.youtube.com
[14:57:21] <raxas> in japan, those koi carps are considered a combatant fish, inspiration to warriors. in chinese mythology, spiritual core of gold carp is isomorphic to spiritual core of a dragon
[14:54:56] <requerdanos> If you are asking yourself whether the problem is giant, or whether the goldfish are giant, you'll be pleased to know that the answer is "both"
[14:45:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Giant Goldfish Problem in US Lake Prompts Warning to Pet Owners" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:45:12] <raxas> =submit https://www.bbc.com
[14:42:49] <SedBot> <Bytram> <FatPhil> holy moley! we won a goldfish =)
[14:42:49] <Bytram> FatPhil: s/.$/fish =)/
[14:42:32] <SedBot> <Bytram> <FatPhil> holy moley! we won a gold!fish =)
[14:42:32] <Bytram> FatPhil: s/$/fish =)/
[14:32:22] <FatPhil> holy moley! we won a gold!
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[13:22:18] <systemd> ^ 03Man in contraption washes up in Florida after trying to run on water
[13:22:15] <FatPhil> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[13:20:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Hubble Finds First Evidence of Water Vapor at Jupiter’s Moon Ganymede" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:20:04] <c0lo> =submit https://www.nasa.gov
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[13:04:52] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theregister.com
[12:58:26] <FatPhil> the best way of making water just out of thin air is clouds, surely?
[12:38:25] <systemd> https://youtube.com - INSTANT WATER!!! (Water just Add Water) #NotSponsored (52; 241 views; 👍8 👎1)
[12:38:24] <Bytram> =yt looney toons instant water just add water bugs bunny -Kids
[12:37:55] <chromas> it's not dehydrated though
[12:37:51] <chromas> wells also have instant water
[12:37:20] <Bytram> oh well!
[12:37:07] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Where the Looney Tune’s “ACME” Corporation Name Came From (04:16; 346,425 views; 👍7,070 👎103)
[12:37:06] <Bytram> =yt looney toons instant water just add water -Kids
[12:36:46] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Looney Tunes Collector: Martian Alert! ALL Secrets + Ending (02:24:19; 28,784 views; 👍330 👎11)
[12:36:45] <Bytram> =yt looney toons instant water -Kids
[12:36:31] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Looney Tunes | Wabbit Needs Water | WB Kids (01:56; 237,419 views; 👍883 👎62)
[12:36:30] <Bytram> =yt looney toons instant water
[12:35:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - United Arab Emirates is Making its Own Fake Rain to Beat 44C Heat - https://sylnt.us
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[10:38:28] <c0lo> =submit https://www.vice.com
[10:37:54] <c0lo> "Teachers and other professionals in education, which isn't typically a high-paying profession, were the second-least likely, after engineering grads, to have any regrets tied to their major, with 37% saying they had no regrets. "
[10:36:02] <c0lo> "College debt was followed by chosen area of study (12%) as a top regret for employees, though this varied greatly by major. Other regrets include poor networking, school choice, too many degrees, time spent completing education and academic underachievement."
[10:03:29] <FatPhil> but is that just "two-thirds regret the debt they've landed themselves with"?
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[07:30:20] <systemd> ^ 03Bacon Grease as Engine OIl? Let's try it!
[07:30:17] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[07:05:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Will Approximation Drive Post-Moore's Law HPC Gains? - https://sylnt.us
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[05:58:45] <raxas> κέλυφος αγνωσίας
[05:33:04] <kyonko> man has chased to become god, and is finally god
[05:32:35] <kyonko> mice are so small they hydrate from the food they eat, no need to evolve bigger
[05:30:55] <kyonko> its even more fun if gmo mice have escaped and bred in the wild
[05:30:19] <kyonko> but few people have observed "mice @ work"
[05:30:03] <kyonko> mice are mostly water, so double the mice
[05:29:51] <kyonko> just like a ton of grain is a potential "ton of mice"
[05:29:33] <kyonko> then this rich pee will obviously produce a large population of unknown bacteria
[05:29:12] <kyonko> pee sugar/protein
[05:29:06] <kyonko> peeing out sugar is how people handle all their unused sugar and protein untill they cant
[05:28:40] <kyonko> thats not how biology works
[05:23:33] <tedious> Maybe there's an enzyme that binds to it.
[05:23:04] <tedious> Really we just need to find some kind of chelating agent that makes you pee out arsenic so we can stop worrying about it.
[05:22:15] <AzumaHazuki> shit
[05:22:09] <tedious> Which is almost all of them except what's grown in Canada apparently.
[05:21:39] <tedious> Also you should be careful about lentils that have high arsenic levels.
[05:21:07] <tedious> Instant pot for the win. :)
[05:20:58] <tedious> Thanks for the warning about kidney beans.
[05:20:15] <tedious> It's like nuclear weapons but stealthy and 'self replicating.
[05:19:34] <tedious> Exactly.
[05:19:25] <AzumaHazuki> it seems to be human nature to futz with things that ought not be futzed with
[05:17:11] <tedious> I was worried about crispr when I first heard about it but it sounds like this mrna stuff is even worse.
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[04:30:34] <chromas> Makes sense though; the nm doesn't mean anything anymore
[04:30:24] <AzumaHazuki> "we're not saying it's 7nm, neener neener, but look, 7!"
[04:30:11] <AzumaHazuki> that reeks of desperation on intel's part
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[04:15:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Renames its "10nm" Node to "Intel 7" - https://sylnt.us - if-you-can't-beat-'em
[03:52:42] <t3> they would want people to reproduce more to increase demand and keep capitalism functioning
[03:52:40] <raxas> I can tell: slavery. next generation is totally corporate pwned
[03:52:14] <t3> megacorps are probably not in favor of reducing population growth though
[03:52:05] <AzumaHazuki> t3, there are some people who just get off on control and making others suffer
[03:51:43] <t3> what would be the point of this?
[03:50:00] <raxas> worse than Windows ever was, now a DRM on your DNA
[03:48:42] <raxas> just wait a couple of days, it's in alternative today
[03:48:10] <raxas> dead bodies withheld from relatives by courts
[03:47:57] <AzumaHazuki> that is a claim that requires evidence
[03:46:59] <raxas> got it from germany a moment ago
[03:46:38] <raxas> and, most importantly, in Italy and Germany already dead bodies of vaxed people who died by virus are considered a property of pharma corporations, it's ongoing now
[03:44:45] <systemd> ^ 03A newly discovered protein repairs DNA
[03:44:43] <raxas> and direct templates manipulation https://phys.org
[03:44:06] <AzumaHazuki> okay, see, this is worth knowing. yes, mRNA tech is a hell of a genie and it's not going back in the bottle any time soon
[03:42:58] <systemd> ^ 03Synthetic mRNA is a more reliable tool for the delivery of DNA-targeting proteins into the cell nucleus than fusion with a protein transduction domain - PubMed
[03:42:56] <raxas> some czech science to it https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
[03:41:58] <raxas> I focus on what's happening, not on what's talked only
[03:41:49] <AzumaHazuki> um, how is "you said a thing, but the truth is actually not-the-thing and this is why" irrelevant?
[03:41:17] <raxas> for it's irrelevant
[03:41:16] <AzumaHazuki> why the hell not?
[03:41:06] <raxas> no
[03:41:01] <AzumaHazuki> are you paying attention to what's being said to you?
[03:40:55] <raxas> we are just at the beginning
[03:39:21] <systemd> ^ 03Myriad Genetics CEO Paul J. Diaz to Present at Goldman Sachs 2021 Virtual Global Healthcare Conference
[03:39:20] <raxas> your fasvourite CEO https://investor.myriad.com
[03:38:50] <AzumaHazuki> what are they going to do, whole-genome sequence the entire population and sue anyone who's got an intron composed of a patented cDNA fragment?
[03:38:06] <AzumaHazuki> like not at all
[03:38:03] <AzumaHazuki> er, nope. that's not what this says
[03:37:32] <raxas> I already said "future is not for everyone", but it seems future is guaranteed heavy fun for those who manage to survive
[03:35:29] <raxas> pages 16-17 (19-20 by pdf)
[03:34:05] <AzumaHazuki> see, i don't put it past some greedhead megalomaniac to try to pull something like that though. it wouldn;t hold in court, but given what kind of psychopaths CEOs and similar are?
[03:31:26] <requerdanos> thanks for the steady flow of misinformation sources, though
[03:30:52] <AzumaHazuki> uh...cDNA isn't mRNA
[03:29:44] <raxas> tldr: mRNA vaxed humans bodies are subjects to authorship, patent and ownership lawfully
[03:27:44] <raxas> this is BIG: https://www.supremecourt.gov
[03:14:59] <t3> I often find the "all day" cooking fits better into the actual rhythym of life in general though
[03:13:36] <t3> isn't it better to cook beans slow to reduce the phytic acid?
[02:47:28] <AzumaHazuki> i'd say get whatever is cheapest, but i've noticed lentils are both faster to cook and a lot more consistent. old beans don't soften and can take an hour in the IP sometimes
[02:45:36] <AzumaHazuki> hm...kidney beans are dangerous (phytohaemaglutenin) and need to be very thoroughly cooked. I like lentils better generally and black beans are my favorite beans proper
[01:55:46] <tedious> Do you have any thoughts on different kinds of beans as a staple food?
[01:55:09] <tedious> That should be the next thing I try out.
[01:54:50] <tedious> Ok.
[01:46:16] <AzumaHazuki> i tend to eat more barley and oats than rice for exactly this reason
[01:46:04] <AzumaHazuki> iirc the arsenic is pretty evenly distributed ><
[01:45:49] <tedious> But white rice gets rid of the bran that contains most of the arsenic right?
[01:45:15] <AzumaHazuki> i'm not sure of the exact time it takes but the IP's kind of forgiving with it, yes
[01:44:48] <tedious> So just throw it in your instant pot and cook it fast?
[01:44:17] <AzumaHazuki> apparently the heat and rapid pressure spikes actually force most of the good stuff from the bran and germ layers into the endosperm
[01:44:07] <tedious> Oh wow nice!
[01:43:53] <AzumaHazuki> it's a special way of processing rice to make it last longer that uses high heat and weird pressure differentials. you get the stability of white rice with the nutrients of brown rice and lower glycaemic index than either
[01:43:32] <tedious> Is that cooked once and put in the fridge for heating up later?
[01:43:08] <tedious> What do you mean by parboiled rice?
[01:43:07] <AzumaHazuki> that's the other oil i use, whenever anything gets sauteed or fried. i don't cook with a lot of oil so a bottle lasts a long time
[01:42:39] <tedious> And avocado oil sounds good too but avocados are basically impossible to grow in the usa so it's all imported from far away.
[01:42:38] <AzumaHazuki> food's damn expensive...i've been trying to keep costs down by making a lot of dals (Indian lentil curries) and serving over parboiled rice
[01:41:37] <tedious> Yeah I should try to eat more salad with olive oil.
[01:39:18] <AzumaHazuki> supposedly it's very very good for you
[01:39:05] <AzumaHazuki> it's one of only two oils i use. extra-virgin cold-pressed, and only on salad. it has a smoke point of about 325*F so it's not suited for most cooking
[01:38:10] <tedious> What do you think about olive oil?
[01:36:53] <AzumaHazuki> it's the specific fatty acid composition. n-6 and n-3 acids compete for the same metabolic pathways, and the eicosanoids produced by the n-3s are anti-inflammatory
[01:36:15] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, the phytates aren't the issue...what a shame ><
[01:35:55] <tedious> I found something that talks about neutralizing the phytates in pb with vitamin c but I guess that won't help.
[01:35:22] <AzumaHazuki> oh, one other thing i've been doing is trying to keep my blood sugar from spiking. most of my carbs are pearl barley, hulled barley, whole or steelcut oat groats, or parboiled rice
[01:34:34] <tedious> Yeah.
[01:34:22] <AzumaHazuki> PB is pretty inflammatory...omega-6 arachidonic acid is named for the peanut (arachis hypogaea) and is turned into inflammatory prostaglandins. which sucks because i love it
[01:33:34] <tedious> So much for my peabutbutter hack. :(
[01:32:17] <AzumaHazuki> almost everyone's magnesium deficient. the soil is exhausted and the usual diet doesn't provide anywhere near enough. TBH i don't think you can eat enough to get it from food anymore
[01:31:11] <tedious> Thanks I'll check it out.
[01:30:57] <tedious> Nice.
[01:30:15] <AzumaHazuki> the glycinate is complexed to glycine, the simplest amino acid, which actually has a dedicated receptor and directly calms you down a little in doses like this
[01:29:49] <AzumaHazuki> https://www.amazon.com this is a good complex, and https://www.amazon.com is a nice single-chelate
[01:28:34] <tedious> I was thinking it might be cheaper to just by bulk magnesium oxide and feed it to edible house plants. :)
[01:28:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Main Attraction: Scientists Create World’s Thinnest Magnet – Just One Atom Thick! - https://sylnt.us
[01:27:28] <AzumaHazuki> i found a really nice complex for fairly cheap on amazon, hang on...
[01:27:17] <tedious> Magnesium oxide is cheap but it's a low quality supplement.
[01:26:51] <tedious> The problem with magnesium is all the good stuff is so expensive.
[01:26:17] <tedious> Oh ok.
[01:25:56] <AzumaHazuki> the capsules are suspended in some kind of low-grade oil and i suspect are rancid (peroxidated lipids)
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[01:25:35] <tedious> What's the difference between dry tablets and capsules?
[01:25:30] <AzumaHazuki> oh, definitely. be very very careful with potassium though as too much will cause arrhythmia
[01:24:59] <tedious> Not meds exactly but it has helped me freak out less from having my heart rhythm go all weird.
[01:24:38] <AzumaHazuki> no problem :) again: not a doctor, not medical advice, sample size of 1, haven't dropped dead yet etc
[01:24:20] <AzumaHazuki> i also take 4000IU of dry (tablets, not oil-filled capsules) vitamin D3 and 500-1000mg of magnesium together. Mg2+ is the counterion to Ca2+ the same way K+ is to Na+ and stops the D3 from pulling calcium out of your bones and depositing it in a nice thick layer all over your vasculature
[01:24:14] <tedious> And I should thank you again for reminding me that I need to pay attention to the sodium and potassium I'm getting.
[01:23:24] <tedious> I don't take any meds now so I'm good.
[01:23:14] <AzumaHazuki> as far as the Salk intitute knows, yes
[01:23:05] <tedious> This is because of the spike proteins isn't it?
[01:22:50] <AzumaHazuki> staying hydrated helps, but this is specific chemoprophylaxis. as always, ask your doctor before eating a lot of garlic, ginger, etc and check to make sure it doesn't interfere with your meds
[01:22:28] <tedious> Oh.
[01:22:10] <AzumaHazuki> "thinning the blood" is a simpler way to say "slows the clot cascade." the spike appears to be causing damage by clotting in microvessels and capillaries and by causing mitochondrial exhaustion (increasing ATP use *and* decreasing its synthesis) via abnormal Ca2+ signalling
[01:21:35] <tedious> And can't you just make sure you stay well hydrated instead?
[01:21:13] <tedious> What does it do for you?
[01:20:40] <AzumaHazuki> keeping in mind i'm not a doctor: ginger thins the blood as does tea from the needles of red/manchurian or white pine (do NOT drink from other species! yew is horribly poisonous!)
[01:20:00] <tedious> I typed that yesterday after you left.
[01:19:44] <tedious> I need to ask azumahazuki what to drink to thin your blood and if that's good for everybody.
[01:19:29] <tedious> Oh hey.
[01:13:58] <kyonko> I was already living under covid lockdown standards 5 years before it happened
[01:12:55] <kyonko> after all, cable tv was good
[01:12:45] <kyonko> I spent most of the 2000's not worrying about internet speed and latest hardware
[01:12:19] <kyonko> heh, i'm too poor to move
[01:12:08] <AzumaHazuki> this city is amazing. i wish i'd come here a decade ago
[01:11:54] <AzumaHazuki> i didn't, i moved here 8 August 2020
[01:11:41] <kyonko> how did you spend the snowpaclypse in buffalo back in the 2010's?
[01:11:37] <AzumaHazuki> she's here for cancer treatments and we're splitting rent and bills, so i can help her around the house and make sure she gets good, healthy food
[01:11:11] <AzumaHazuki> actually, my mother's here in buffalo now. we're sharing a nice apartment (well, nice by our standards)
[01:10:27] <kyonko> as if heinous violence in brazil in mexico is caused by something other than overpopulation and cultural ignorance
[01:10:03] <kyonko> ugh NHK talking about japan's "shrinking population"
[01:08:51] <kyonko> protected by a institution
[01:08:41] <kyonko> they must be fed by an institution
[01:08:35] <kyonko> don't you ever think about all those poor people who can't feed themselves?
[01:06:10] <kyonko> don't you feel funny eating such a great meal, alone?
[01:05:59] <AzumaHazuki> simple, but really filling and healthy
[01:05:51] <kyonko> we have glass workshops for art in tucson
[01:05:50] <AzumaHazuki> i made some good soup tonight: hulled barley and chicken legs in their own broth with carrot/celery/onion, made sure to sizzle some ginger and garlic first and season with sage, rosemary, and black pepper
[01:05:25] <kyonko> glass is fun, you can melt it with a torch
[01:04:43] <kyonko> then you always get a surprise
[01:04:32] <kyonko> I really trust glass, as I can predict its properties :P
[01:04:13] <kyonko> aging is worse when you are a loner
[01:04:02] <kyonko> well yeah, but then again you can't stop aging
[01:03:45] <AzumaHazuki> i only ever cook in stainless steel or pyrex (if baking) and eat from ceramic...paranoid maybe but i feel great
[01:03:13] <kyonko> I think the bpa shock has worn away these past 10 years, but I remember the media blitz
[01:02:35] <kyonko> (because I can't do the spoon tongue thing cats and dogs do)
[01:02:18] <kyonko> never subject them to heat or abrasion
[01:02:11] <kyonko> I would only use melamine cups or bowls for drinking water
[01:01:51] <kyonko> i was really tongue in cheek when the anti-hitler riots in the summer of 2020 were burning unknown materials
[01:01:19] <kyonko> its like bakelite
[01:01:06] <kyonko> melamine is a nitrogen plastic, a really toxic one like bpa
[01:00:48] <kyonko> its gross, but a lot of burned plastics smell like fish
[00:59:19] <AzumaHazuki> protein from plastic...how the hell? you need a nitrogen source for that, amino acids have an -NH2 (amine) group at the end