#soylent | Logs for 2021-07-10
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[00:17:58] <raxas> Bytram: those young people do not conceive the purpose of cold control panels, no way to transfer the true meaning of such exaltation to current epoch
[00:20:08] <Bytram> raxas: sorry, I lost train of thought. please elaborate
[00:21:49] <raxas> @Bytram | Fun is single-stepping instructions on am IBM mainframe, ...
[00:22:58] <Bytram> ah... not familiar with (meaning and use of) blinkenlights!
[00:26:23] <raxas> we had operators who could estimate how long it takes for daily routine just by looking at addresses on panel
[00:27:03] <raxas> things like long sort and stuff
[00:27:56] <raxas> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[00:27:56] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Unreleased Ghost In The Shell song (07:33; 36,096 views; 👍358 👎2)
[00:27:57] <Bytram> skillz++
[00:27:57] <Bender> karma - skillz: 1
[00:28:52] <Fnord666> You've never heard of blinkenlights? For shame!
[00:29:21] <Fnord666> https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:29:22] <systemd> ^ 03Blinkenlights - Wikipedia
[00:29:51] <Fnord666> https://www.urbandictionary.com
[00:29:53] <systemd> ^ 03Urban Dictionary: blinkenlights
[00:30:05] <Fnord666> "ACHTUNG! Alles touristen und non-technischen looken peepers!
[00:30:05] <Fnord666> Das machine control is nicht fur gerfinger-poken und mittengrabben. Oderwise is easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowen fuse, und poppencorken mit spitzensparken.
[00:30:05] <Fnord666> Der machine is diggen by experten only. Is nicht fur geverken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseenen keepen das cotten picken hands in das pockets, so relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights."
[00:30:06] <Bytram> whether a program would terminate or not is no computable, but one could often tell when a program was suck in an infinite loop with a glance at the lights!
[00:30:51] <Fnord666> I just watch the CPU usage count skyrocket these days while no I/O is occurring.
[00:31:57] <Fnord666> The program is either looping or computing a new block for the blockchain
[00:32:55] Fnord666 is now known as OxDEADBEEF
[00:33:42] <Bytram> Fnord666: I am *well* familiar with that. was commenting on *prior* convo where others failed to understand the point I was making of testing a VM running in a VM running in a VM... by single-stepping instructions of an IBM mainframe and examining values in memory and calculating virtual/physical memory addresses and table-lookaside-buffers. =)
[00:35:40] <OxDEADBEEF> That's just for masochists or sadistic professors to use for homework assignments
[00:40:44] <Bytram> actually, that was part of my job at the time... to verify the optimizations they put in the VM operating system actually worked correctly, instead of using or branching to the wrong memory address and causing a system crash and taking down hundreds of users with it.
[00:43:20] <Bytram> yeah, it was a *bear* and I honestly wonder how I managed to pull it off! It was the absolute limit of what I could keep track of in my head at one time, and there was some scratch paper holding a few values that wouldn't fit in my head at the same time!
[00:57:53] <Bytram> that's gonna do it for me.
[00:58:01] <Bytram> have a great night everybody!
[01:16:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amid Firestorm of Criticism, FDA Narrows Use of $56,000/Year Alzheimer’s Drug - https://sylnt.us - first,-do-no-harm
[01:22:00] <AzumaHazuki> that turkey never should have been approved...what a shitshow
[01:28:47] <raxas> that looks like cheap money coming to investors on big plate
[01:31:03] <AzumaHazuki> that looks like shitting all over what the FDA is for and duping desperate, horribly ill patients and their families
[01:41:48] <AzumaHazuki> Aaaaaand speaking of fucking disgusting medical behavior... https://www.fool.com
[01:41:49] <systemd> ^ 03Could Pfizer and Moderna Be in Trouble After the Latest COVID Vaccine Findings? @themotleyfool #stocks $PFE $MRNA $BNTX
[01:42:09] <AzumaHazuki> "OHEZ NOEZ T3H VACCINEZ WURKZ TOO GUD WE MAKES LESS MONEYZ!" Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck youuuuuuuuuuuu
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[03:09:13] <raxas> sadhguru once said, "everyone is personally responsible for each own health. do not transfer this responsibility on other persons like doctors taking care of you. focus on how you live."
[03:11:06] <raxas> sadhguru is cute. fresh new public guru for high school children and tv stars
[03:11:35] <raxas> so, 'horribly ill' is a really bad karma
[03:11:48] * AzumaHazuki wonders if sadhguru would put his money where his mouth is if he got cancer
[03:13:13] <raxas> india is quite harsh closely as usual about this, but if america wants to throw trillions on this illness, it will be interesting to watch success in compare those two national tactics
[03:17:41] <raxas> one thing about india is sure: they do not eat mad cows much over there. so this brain plaque situation may be different for them too
[03:58:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Continental Pirouettes: Supervolcano Fed from Earth's Mantle Caused Crustal Plates to Rotate - https://sylnt.us
[05:05:53] <raxas> =submit https://www.rt.com
[05:05:57] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Putin Tells Biden: Russia Ready to Cooperate on Cybersecurity, but No Requests Come From Washington" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:16:12] <t3> pinephone came, good thing nobody stole it before I thought to check the mailbox
[05:16:37] <t3> kde plasma mobile sucks slightly less than I was expecting
[05:16:54] <t3> still pretty bad though
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[06:26:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FAA Begins Use of System to Reduce Impact of Launches on Airspace - https://sylnt.us - it's-about-time
[06:52:55] <FatPhil> Is there still a thing as an image search engine?
[06:53:27] <FatPhil> I've found a site that seems to be infringing on our brewpub's trademark, and I'd like to know if the photos on their webpage are all stock photos
[06:54:42] <FatPhil> here, "seems to be" is complete understatement. I walked past a cafe yesterday, and saw our company name in our font, and it's nothing to do with us at all, quite frankly I'm livid.
[06:56:18] <chromas> bing and google do image search
[06:56:24] <chromas> tineye's still around I think
[06:56:41] <chromas> bing's was great for porn because of the similar images thing but now they disable it for porn :'(
[06:56:57] <chromas> and google's image search interface sucks all the balls
[07:10:34] <FatPhil> how do I actually do the search?
[07:11:25] <FatPhil> e.g. how to search for this image: http://pohjalacatering.ee
[07:16:06] <FatPhil> looks like their photos are legit, they have been in the food business with that brand for at least 2 years (we founded the brewpub 4 years ago, but the brewery itself is ~8 years old)
[07:17:06] <FatPhil> looks like they're only recently branching out into cafes and being in the public eye with a brand, rather than just invisible caterers in the background.
[07:17:47] <FatPhil> I just hope we've got a better lethal attack lawyer than them...
[07:18:11] <chromas> gotta click the visual search button
[07:18:14] <chromas> requires js tho
[07:18:25] <chromas> https://www.bing.com
[07:18:25] <chromas> 3A%2F%2Fpohjalacatering.ee%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F02%2Friisalu1-e1549892768597.jpg&exph=600&expw=801&vt=2&sim=1
[07:18:47] <chromas> google has a similar button
[07:19:11] <chromas> https://www.google.com
[07:19:12] <systemd> ^ 03Google ( https://www.google.com )
[07:19:42] <FatPhil> thanks!
[07:20:05] <FatPhil> that confirms that their photos are legit, they have been in the business for several years.
[07:20:22] <chromas> perhaps it's your pub who's infringing
[07:20:26] <chromas> now you can be double livid
[07:22:07] <chromas> =yt tim eric free real estate
[07:22:08] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Free House For You, Jim | Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! | Adult Swim (38; 8,180,116 views; 👍221,373 👎1,440)
[07:26:59] <FatPhil> well, our brewery name predates their catering business, but our expansion into food comes after. It's going to be complex...
[07:27:09] <FatPhil> High lethality of attack lawyers required...
[07:27:37] <chromas> Apple Music eh
[07:28:13] <FatPhil> apart from the fact there was an explicit promise to never go into music
[07:34:44] <FatPhil> Apparently the big nobs have known about this potential invasion for a while, and have mobilised the sharks, but I'll still press them for more info in our monthly newsletter which is due next week.
[07:35:05] <FatPhil> I don't like being in the dark. I'm one of the fussier investors.
[07:51:48] <FatPhil> Hoorah for .ee and everything governmental being publically accessible.
[07:52:07] <FatPhil> I've found all the trademark applications, and we've got them by the balls.
[07:54:25] <raxas> it seems some funny local beer shop doxed you https://www.beershop.cz
[07:54:33] <systemd> ^ 03Põhjala
[08:01:51] <raxas> =submit https://www.bloomberg.com
[08:01:52] <systemd> raxas, 04submit failed: Bloomberg is racist against robots!
[08:02:23] <raxas> poor bloomberg
[08:04:05] <chromas> it's their fault. their botblocker's cutting them off from literally dozens of article clicks
[08:05:06] <raxas> =submit https://gizmodo.com
[08:05:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03China's Tencent Says It'll Use Face Recognition to Keep Minors From Gaming at Night" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:07:17] <FatPhil> raxas: that's a good range you have there!
[08:41:57] <chromas> you Czeched his link?
[09:20:38] <raxas> =submit https://seek.rockefeller.edu
[09:20:41] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Seek - Flipping a Switch Inside the Head" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:21:14] <raxas> now we fully understand what those magnetic particles in vaccines are purposed for...
[09:22:25] <raxas> =submit this is related to previous submit https://bioengineer.org
[09:22:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Radio Waves Remotely Triggered the Release of Insulin in Mice" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:38:20] <chromas> insulin vs outsulout
[09:45:48] <raxas> "radiogenetics". some original papers from 1985. though I am afraid current mrna vaccines are not about insuline but about crowd control
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[10:13:54] <Bytram> t3: re: pinephone... any chance you'd we willing to write a short review and submit it to the site? Could be as simple as: list of specifications, things you like, things you don't like.
[10:51:42] <FatPhil> seconded
[10:52:44] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[10:52:45] <systemd> ^ 03Udder madness: Thousands defy lockdown to gawk at tiny cow in Bangladesh
[10:52:58] <Runaway1956> Staring at cows can cause the COVIDS
[10:54:35] <Runaway1956> I think it may be a 5G microcow
[11:03:39] <Bytram> chromas: wrt systemd barfing on Bloomberg subs...
[11:03:50] <Bytram> =sub https://www.bloomberg.com
[11:03:50] <systemd> Bytram, 04submit failed: Bloomberg is racist against robots!
[11:04:19] <Bytram> when I load the same URL into: https://zeroindex.org
[11:04:19] <systemd> ^ 03Soysub
[11:04:56] <Bytram> and select "storybot" as the scraper, it seems to work okay.
[11:06:16] <Runaway1956> Wait - you read bloomberger's news?
[11:06:34] <Runaway1956> Isn't this the same bloomberger that bailed convicts out of jail to vote in Florida?
[11:06:42] <Bytram> So, when the bot recognizes it's a Bloomberg sub, instead of putting up an error message maybe is could process the sub with storybot, instead?
[11:08:18] <Bytram> Runaway1956: somebody else tried to submit that exact same story in this channel 3 hours ago.
[11:10:07] * Runaway1956 blames systemd
[11:11:21] <Runaway1956> This will make you think hard before getting on a carnival ride
[11:11:31] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[11:11:32] <systemd> ^ 03Crazy video shows moment fairgoers rush to stop carnival ride from toppling over
[11:14:24] <Runaway1956> Mayor Eric Adams? The name has more dignity than most recent mayors of NYC
[11:30:02] <Bytram> NY Post? right up there with the national inquirer! :/
[11:49:27] <FatPhil> One for runaway...
[11:49:45] <FatPhil> New York Mayor Eric Adams = So dark. Anyway, more crime!
[11:57:14] <FatPhil> bought a sage soap from the medieval market yesterday, and it's still in its paper bag, but it's completely stinking out the whole place, like I went mad with an air freshener or ten. Fortunately, it's quite pleasant, but still, it's absurd.
[12:18:44] <chromas> Bytram is racist against NY-based newspapers
[12:23:27] <t3> Bytram: I'll take notes and try to put some thoughts together
[12:34:56] <Runaway1956> https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com
[12:42:04] <chromas> is that steven spielberg?
[12:55:18] <Runaway1956> Spellerberger?
[12:56:59] <chromas> runaway material https://babylonbee.com
[12:57:00] <systemd> ^ 03'You'll Never Beat The Government With Just Guns,' Says Party That Also Believes Government Was Almost Toppled By Unarmed Mob On January 6
[13:12:54] <raxas> who's the government? certainly not those puppets on tv, government as a service. somewhere must be a true customer who makes choices
[13:14:45] <Bytram> t3++ Awesome! TYVM!
[13:14:45] <Bender> karma - t3: 2
[13:16:06] <Bytram> chromas: Nah. A share a similar sentiment with England's The Daily Mail aka The Daily Fail
[13:50:31] <Runaway1956> a small creature keeps sneaking up the hall, and peering at me, then runs away when I look
[13:50:39] <Runaway1956> she insists she's not a mouse . . .
[13:51:05] <Runaway1956> I suppose I should go hunt her down, and see if the dog wants to eat her
[14:29:09] <raxas> be sure she's not a kikimora first, that one could eat your dog instead
[14:29:37] <raxas> https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:29:38] <systemd> ^ 03Kikimora - Wikipedia
[14:36:39] <Runaway1956> Speckles tasted the mouse, and all her sister and brother mice - decided to keep them for later.
[14:37:01] <chromas> buried in the backyard, eh
[14:38:20] <Runaway1956> She's a shepard dog - she herds them instead of burying them.
[14:39:02] <chromas> well did she at least pee on them to let other dogs know to pee on them?
[14:39:20] <chromas> like signing the guestbook
[14:39:28] <Runaway1956> It's mostly male dogs that mark their territory like that, lol
[14:39:46] <chromas> our female dog liked to pee on things
[14:39:50] <chromas> or at least on spots
[14:39:59] <chromas> but she was an unknown mix
[14:40:21] <Runaway1956> Yeah, peeing on spots is a thing with female dogs, trees and legs, not so much
[14:40:46] <Runaway1956> and tires
[14:41:55] <chromas> and eat the poop
[14:42:03] <chromas> the light brown has the best flavor
[15:11:46] <halibut> Two comments on the discussion on mounting the external drive on Ubuntu (around 2021-07-09 2053Z):
[15:12:41] <halibut> First, since the drive was manually mounted, it is possible it will not unmount via the usual methods (shutdown should be fine). However, once unmounted, the directory might not be removed; that might need to be done manually.
[15:13:02] <halibut> Second, I believe that on Ubuntu you can trigger the automount behavior with a command like: udisks --mount /dev/sdb1
[15:13:10] <halibut> That should handle creating the /media mountpoint and mounting there.
[15:15:44] <raxas> =submit https://royalsocietypublishing.org
[15:15:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Cognitive and Perceptual Correlates of Ideological Attitudes: a Data-driven Approach" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:15:55] <halibut> It's possible the command was not quite right. It might be something like udisksctl mount --block-device /dev/sdb1
[15:18:53] <Runaway1956> !grab chromas
[15:18:53] <Bender> Added quote 1050
[15:36:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - President Joe Biden's Latest Executive Order is a Huge Win for Right to Repair - https://sylnt.us
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[17:58:12] <Runaway1956> Hmmm - I haz two more magnets than I had yesterday
[17:58:34] <Runaway1956> One of the sons brought me two shiny round balls, magnetized.
[17:59:07] <Runaway1956> Separate them a little bit in your hand, toss them in the air, and they bounce off each other, making a clicking noise
[17:59:39] <Runaway1956> He brought them to me to 'hide' because he doesn't want the small creatures to get them
[18:01:26] <Runaway1956> not sure if the balls are metal or not - I'm thinking they might be some kind of ceramic, with magnets embedded inside
[18:06:39] <Runaway1956> https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:06:40] <systemd> ^ 03Baoding balls - Wikipedia
[18:25:23] <FatPhil> benwa balls?
[18:26:25] <FatPhil> or rattle magnets?
[18:28:02] <FatPhil> Oh, jeebus, i caught the sun today. I foresee no sleep for 3 days. Never volunteer for things that sound fun during summer.
[18:28:53] <FatPhil> nex time I move, it's Oulu or Baffin Island, nowhere south.
[18:31:44] <Runaway1956> What's wrong with Ant Arctica?
[18:32:23] <requerdanos> The bizarre timezones for one thing; the poor selection for shopping and entertainment for another.
[18:32:41] <Runaway1956> You can shop for penguins all year long.
[18:33:38] <requerdanos> I already have all the penguins I expext to want for a lifetime...
[20:28:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ukrainian Police Bust Cryptocurrency Mining Operation, Seize 3,800 PlayStation 4 Consoles - https://sylnt.us
[20:58:05] <FatPhil> falkland islands doesn't have a brewery
[20:58:34] <FatPhil> north hemi is better equipped for such things.
[21:04:23] <FatPhil> ANyway, this is what happened in town today: https://news.err.ee . Lots of Danish flags, because we were under Danish rule way back.
[21:04:26] <systemd> ^ 03Gallery: Tallinn Medieval Days opens with procession through old town
[22:35:23] <chromas> woohoo++ numberpad works
[22:35:23] <Bender> karma - woohoo: 23
[22:35:41] <chromas> but I didn't account for the wires when making the pcb cavity
[22:47:23] <Bytram> chromas: maybe you need more toothpaste!
[23:13:10] <FatPhil> pics or it didn't happen
[23:16:12] <Bytram> FatPhil: pictures of a... cavity? there ain't nothing in a cavity! ;)
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[23:22:57] <halibut> That's the hole idea!
[23:23:42] <kyonko2> hey phish
[23:23:58] <halibut> Glub glub ...
[23:25:05] <kyonko2> got the bends?
[23:25:30] <kyonko2> i'm watching some pro-life flat earther talking about keeping fish alive and protecting them from the bends
[23:25:36] <kyonko2> (on tv, its the deer channel)
[23:25:53] <kyonko2> "we keep the baby comfortable...."
[23:26:11] <kyonko2> everyone is doing the covid protocol
[23:26:24] <kyonko2> well not "everyone" but you know
[23:26:29] <kyonko2> the human zeitgeist
[23:28:00] <kyonko2> you can
[23:28:11] <kyonko2> you can not weight double digit fish without them getting the bends
[23:28:19] <kyonko2> so why even waste your time
[23:29:21] <kyonko2> i think its because the rules, regulations and laws prohibit you from feeding yourself and your pets without paying government printed money for it
[23:29:29] <kyonko2> INTERESTING!!!!!
[23:48:12] <FatPhil> hard to tell the difference between a zeitgeist and a shitegeist nowadays.
[23:50:27] <kyonko2> I googled a name "jason bermas" not much on him on google
[23:50:50] <kyonko2> I think the surname is romanian, but he is american
[23:51:03] <kyonko2> romanian.... but i thought of it as spanish/latin
[23:51:48] <kyonko2> back in 2020 shit was so freaky I thought the masking up was going to be "yet another thing humans do we don't remember why we do in the first place"
[23:52:16] <kyonko2> unlike an ICE engine, the human body can repair and rebuild itself.... stronger, smarter, but not.... taller
[23:52:38] <kyonko2> and I have a chiropractor appointment in a week in the big city
[23:52:44] <kyonko2> i haven't been there in years
[23:54:37] <kyonko2> well yeah, we can grow taller actually, its not good for you, but we are all going to die, so do what you want
[23:54:59] <FatPhil> bermas is not a typical romanian surname, but of course, romania are a mix of several groups.
[23:55:48] <kyonko2> yeah if you want to get technical
[23:55:55] <kyonko2> i'm just surprised google didn't link him to alex jones
[23:56:09] <kyonko2> who is a lot like weird al yankovic, the comedian
[23:56:18] <kyonko2> which was the same era was bill hicks
[23:56:20] <FatPhil> the canonical can't-be-anything-but-romanian surnames would be the -scu and -ciu
[23:56:32] <kyonko2> same for turks
[23:56:42] <kyonko2> or armenians
[23:56:53] <kyonko2> and raw babble first and last names? jewish
[23:58:10] <kyonko2> have you been keeping an eye on your fatphil.org log for my ipv6?
[23:58:22] <FatPhil> lots of -ian in armenian names. bogossian, sarkesian, etc.
[23:58:40] <FatPhil> is that a patronymic form?
[23:58:56] <kyonko2> i'm not noam chomsky
[23:58:58] <FatPhil> logs get rotated and forgotten about
[23:59:03] <kyonko2> oh they are on a drum
[23:59:11] <kyonko2> funny how the symbol for HDD is a drum
[23:59:24] <kyonko2> like needle writing on rotating drum
[23:59:51] <kyonko2> but the so called HDD geometry of C/H/S is exactly like a dart board