#soylent | Logs for 2021-07-08
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[00:05:03] <raxas> https://www.survivalsullivan.com "you're safe here", good to know
[00:05:04] <systemd> ^ 03Can You Really Eat Grasshoppers to Survive?
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[01:06:05] -!- mode/#soylent [+v mrpg] by Aphrodite
[01:12:09] <mrpg> after a month using brave I made a dollar in BAT. But AFAIK I need to have a wallet to use them. And the wallet they use/recommend asks me to open one with 15$.
[01:13:18] <mrpg> 1.750BAT 1.08 USD
[01:13:53] <mrpg> 15$ to open an uphold wallet.
[01:14:11] <requerdanos> to open a wallet with $15 in it?
[01:14:42] <mrpg> 15$ to open it
[01:14:53] <mrpg> Now let's see if I can micro donate...
[01:16:11] <mrpg> Yes I can micro donate. tip a creator.
[01:17:40] <mrpg> Verifying your wallet allows you to manage your funds more efficiently.
[01:17:40] <mrpg> You must have a minimum of BAT 15 to create a Uphold account.
[01:17:54] <requerdanos> ah.
[01:19:30] <mrpg> I'd recommend the browser to family and friends not computer-litterate, it's easier than toying around with noscript in FF.
[01:20:20] <mrpg> Haven't tried their new search engine, I'm still on startpage.
[01:21:25] <mrpg> I paid for a month of proton vpn, I got 4MB downloading a torrent.
[01:21:39] <mrpg> No other speed test though.
[01:23:09] <mrpg> BAsic plan, servers in something like 55 countries.
[01:24:13] <mrpg> Regarding geoblocking, I tried to see something in Spain but I got a the 'no region' bull even using the vpn. I tried twice.
[01:24:41] <mrpg> Adn there's like 12 countries whose servers allow torrenting.
[01:24:46] <mrpg> And...
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[01:25:54] <mrpg> With one dollar I can buy Oreos...
[01:27:26] <mrpg> Ah, and to get the money, given once a month -I think-, I had to provre I was human, I had to drag a triangle to another shape 3 times. To a triangle, to a square, and again to a square.
[01:27:57] <mrpg> To me that seems a micro agresion to robots...
[01:29:02] <mrpg> I should register as a creator to tip myself.
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[01:30:32] <mrpg> It seems I can tip a really low amount. Well of course it's micro.
[01:31:11] <mrpg> You're about to leave a tip 0.5 BAT - 0.31 USD
[01:35:53] <mrpg> Ok, I'll tip khan academy.
[01:39:38] <halibut> Khan you do that?
[01:39:51] <mrpg> hehe, yes, just did it
[01:40:12] <halibut> You tipped Khan, BAT you would rather tip somebody else?
[01:41:04] <halibut> I don't remember. Were you experimenting with Brave paying you to view ads or something?
[01:41:57] <halibut> Something like this: https://brave.com ?
[01:41:58] <systemd> ^ 03About Brave Rewards | Brave Browser
[01:42:09] <mrpg> Yes ,As brave automatically blocks ads, you have the option to view ads, a small pop up in the top right corner of the browser, max 5 per hour. They give you a small amount for that.
[01:42:31] <mrpg> Well not that small, 30 % I think. Still peanuts.
[01:42:57] <mrpg> no wait, it is not 5 per hour.
[01:44:59] <halibut> From the page: ``No hint of your browsing activity ever leaves your device.'' ... except your browser activity. I know, that's just being pedantic. I know what they meant.
[01:45:00] <mrpg> Yes, you can choose 1 to 5 per hour, but I don't see that many.
[01:45:42] <mrpg> Maybe if I connect thru a VPN to the US they'll show me more ads...
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[01:46:22] <mrpg> Yes, I was seeing ads in french, I was on the vpn connecged to Canada.
[01:46:54] <requerdanos> I read that less than a third of Canadians speak french.
[01:46:58] <halibut> While I am not sure I would want to do that, I like the initiative Brave is taking, and applaud them for an out-of-the-box attempt at a compromise.
[01:48:02] <mrpg> In a month or 5 weeks I've only seen ads for protonvpn, some crypto usb drive, and more crypto things. And teice today for humane farmers.
[01:48:05] <mrpg> twice...
[01:48:35] <requerdanos> Humane farmers don't slaughter their animals, but rather talk them into giving up?
[01:49:05] <mrpg> milk producers dfrom Canada https://producteurslaitiersducanada.ca
[01:49:10] <systemd> ^ 03Bienvenue chez les Producteurs Laitiers du Canada
[01:49:39] <mrpg> Coes listen to Mozart while being milked maybe
[01:49:41] <mrpg> cows
[01:49:50] <mrpg> yt sonata in c 15 mozart
[01:49:59] <mrpg> =yt sonata in c 15 mozart
[01:50:00] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Mozart - Piano Sonata No. 16 in C Major, K.545 (1st Mvt) (05:20; 4,142,488 views; 👍70,018 👎715)
[01:51:36] <mrpg> I clearly stated 15 ... but that is the one.
[02:00:08] <mrpg> Opera is good, it has a free VPN, nothing too fast but it works.
[02:00:24] <mrpg> But no ad blocking I tihkn, I dont recall.
[02:16:57] <mrpg> There are comments in YT saying they make 5$ a month, I'll try the vpn from US idea. That's what I paid for the vpn, 5$.
[02:17:24] <mrpg> Eventually I'll get tired of it
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[02:21:53] <c0lo> =submit im-not-saying-is-cia https://www.voanews.com
[02:21:55] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Zimbabwe Villagers Fight Chinese Coal Mining Project Near Wildlife Reserve" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:22:38] <c0lo> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[02:22:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Poorer US Households Gained Nearly a Year's Spending From CARES Act - Study" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:25:14] <c0lo> =submit doi-10.1021/acs.nanolett.1c01353 https://www.nanowerk.com
[02:25:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New Microfluidic Device Delivers mRNA Nanoparticles a Hundred Times Faster" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:25:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Massive Invisible Structure Discovered, by Accident, with Green Bank Telescope in West Virginia - https://sylnt.us - Massive-Galactic-Structure
[02:26:59] <mrpg> yea by accident, do I look stupid to you? well ok but it's just the face.
[02:27:10] <c0lo> =submit https://www.defensenews.com
[02:27:13] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Raytheon Wins $2B Contract for New Nuclear Cruise Missile" (8p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:29:14] <mrpg> accident.
[02:29:17] <mrpg> My mama no raise no dummies
[02:29:36] <mrpg> https://www.youtube.com
[02:29:39] <systemd> ^ 03I Speak Jive - Airplane! (5/10) Movie CLIP (1980) HD
[02:30:57] <c0lo> =submit why-cant-you-have-nice-things https://www.independent.co.uk
[02:31:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03GOP Congressman Suggests Party Wants ‘18 Months of Chaos’ Before 2022" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:32:51] <c0lo> =submit https://iea.org.uk
[02:32:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "0367 Per Cent of Young Brits Want a Socialist Economic System, Finds New Poll" (3p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:33:57] <c0lo> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[02:33:59] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Bitcoin Power Plant is Making Part of a Glacial Lake ‘Feel a Hot Tub,’ Residents Say [Updated]" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:37:00] <AzumaHazuki> define "socialist"
[02:37:15] <AzumaHazuki> because the word seems to mean "hey those Norwegians seem to have a good thing going" these days
[02:37:24] <requerdanos> "The government provides needed things to some degree, paid for by taxes"
[02:37:26] <c0lo> RTFA, 'Zumi.
[02:37:30] <c0lo> =submit https://www.boston25news.com
[02:37:32] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Charlotte Flight to Bahamas Canceled When Boston-area High Schoolers Refuse to Wear Masks" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:38:20] <requerdanos> you'd think they could just clear the plane of nonmaskers and be on their way
[02:39:03] <raxas> we were an actual "socialist republic" by law/constitution when westerners called us 'communists'
[02:39:53] <raxas> so, the current western affinity to socialism is not understandable here at all
[02:40:27] <raxas> it's all former ideologies completely inverted today
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[02:41:13] <AzumaHazuki> i can tell you this: despite Hallow and Runaway and a few other lolbertarians sitting there gibbering to themselves with their fingers in their ears, it can't be denied that capitalism is a concentrating, self-reinforcing tendency
[02:41:18] <raxas> that's why even Russia is the most liberal country today
[02:41:31] <AzumaHazuki> the degenerate case is feudalism. ironically, proper redistribution means you can have more capitalism
[02:41:40] <AzumaHazuki> this seems to segfault their tiny little minds
[02:41:40] <c0lo_> =submit https://apnews.com
[02:41:42] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Chinese Social Media Giant WeChat Shuts LGBT Accounts" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[02:42:09] <raxas> backtrack to feudalism is a predestined future, I am afraid. very afraid
[02:43:04] <AzumaHazuki> we're 2/3 there already. capitalism's degenerate case is feudalism, because the profit motive is a centralizing, self-reinforcing, self-accelerating feedback loop
[02:43:26] <AzumaHazuki> but like a discharged battery, once all the ions (wealth) is concentrated (moved to the anode), economic activity (current) can't flow
[02:43:37] <c0lo_> =submit https://thehill.com
[02:43:39] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03W.Va. Governor: 'If You're Not Vaccinated, You're Part of the Problem'" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:43:41] <raxas> agree on that. a typical case of positive feedback
[02:43:55] <AzumaHazuki> Hallow screeches like i doused him with holy water when i point this out
[02:44:18] <requerdanos> I'm sorry, hallow? allergic to holy water?
[02:44:29] <AzumaHazuki> KHallow
[02:44:45] <AzumaHazuki> he's actually allergic to anything even resembling basic human decency, not just holy water
[02:44:49] <requerdanos> is a vampire or some sort of supernatural being?
[02:45:00] <requerdanos> yeah I know about the aversion to decency
[02:45:11] <AzumaHazuki> no, just an incredibly delusional one-man human centipede of libertarian ideology
[02:45:19] <raxas> all nazis consider themselves supernatural
[02:46:08] <AzumaHazuki> butbutbutbut they were godless commie atheists!!!111one. Their belts even said so! They said "Gott mit uns," which definitely positively means "I'm an atheist" in German dontcherknow
[02:47:11] <c0lo_> khallow? Is it that guy who lately identified the biggest problem we are facing is "too many people on Earth"? Not too libertarian, is it?
[02:47:20] <raxas> every fascists regime in europe stemmed from some catholic nation. it's like seeding
[02:47:52] <c0lo_> =submit https://techcrunch.com
[02:47:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03YouTube’s Recommender AI Still a Horror Show, Finds Major Crowdsourced Study – TechCrunch" (85p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:48:24] <AzumaHazuki> i have no idea what he says anymore because it's always the same insipid shit
[02:50:05] <c0lo_> No quite, Zumi. Insipid as it may be, he brings in a variation into it. IDK, maybe once a year.
[02:50:28] <c0lo_> =submit im-not-saying-it-was-cia https://www.abc.net.au
[02:50:31] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03What We Know About the Assassination of Haiti's President Jovenel Moïse - ABC News" (63p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:50:50] <c0lo_> ^^^ Video published by the Miami Herald showed an American-accented voice yelling over loudspeaker "DEA operation, everybody back up and stay down" outside the presidential residence.
[02:52:00] <raxas> that could be an operational cover to get action momentum, but I have no doubts in cia about this one
[02:53:09] <c0lo_> =submit wont-someone-think-of-the-dogs https://www.kob.com
[02:53:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03More Police K9s Forced Into Retirement Following Legalization of Recreational Marijuana" (7p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:53:32] <raxas> submit takes dept as first arg?
[02:56:21] <requerdanos> not really. submit passes on whatever text you include, whether before or after the url
[02:56:27] <c0lo_> submit take anything you want to give. It's up to the editors if they consider that one as the dept
[02:56:39] <raxas> ok
[02:56:50] <raxas> so. biden is a murderer now. he must have ordered this. no agency kills a head of state just by their own will, they need top approval
[02:57:14] <c0lo_> =submit giant-cats-warning-in-japan because where else https://edition.cnn.com
[02:57:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03A Giant 3D Cat Has Taken Over One of Tokyo's Biggest Billboards" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:57:17] <raxas> maybe it was just a signal to another state
[02:59:29] <raxas> that cat is really scary. japan is endangered by huge monsters for ages, people may panic
[03:00:56] <c0lo_> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[03:00:59] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03“Broadcom is a Monopolist”: FTC Orders Chipmaker to Stop Illegal Tactics" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:02:46] <c0lo_> raxas, a lot better than this one https://pbs.twimg.com
[03:04:19] <c0lo_> =submit https://www.cardiff.ac.uk
[03:04:21] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Instant Water Cleaning Method ‘Millions of Times’ Better Than Commercial Approach" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:04:41] <raxas> that's just github logo monster getting fat, not scary at all
[03:05:33] <c0lo_> I didn't say it was scarry, just worse than the cat in the billboard.
[03:06:09] <c0lo_> =submit we-had-fish-soup-now-we-fast https://www.halifaxtoday.ca
[03:06:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Ottawa to Close About 60 Per Cent of Commercial Salmon Fisheries to Conserve Stocks" (29p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:08:37] <c0lo_> =submit twas-their-right-tho https://apnews.com
[03:08:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Twitter Restricts Account of Expert Who Mocked China Leader" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:09:36] <raxas> that one building cat should be turned to tamagochi, to keep citizens busy
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[04:56:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Early Humans Were Sheltered From Worst Effects of Volcanic Supereruption - https://sylnt.us - lava-would-be-the-worst
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[05:51:13] -!- mode/#soylent [+v mrpg] by Aphrodite
[05:51:28] <mrpg> =submit https://www.theverge.com
[05:51:31] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Mozilla’s RegretsReporter Data Shows YouTube Keeps Recommending Harmful Videos" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:55:17] <mrpg> https://www.engadget.com
[05:55:18] <systemd> ^ 03Hyrope is a smart jump rope that pairs with an app to track your workout
[05:55:25] <mrpg> ??????
[05:55:27] <mrpg> wtf
[05:59:10] <mrpg> =submit https://www.livescience.com
[05:59:13] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03500-year-old Skulls With Facial Modification Unearthed in Gabon" (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[07:06:54] <FatPhil> we have just had to work on our first paper where the journal (in HCI, an AI topic) has specified that "black" is capitalised, but "white" isn't.
[07:08:24] <boru> Oh how historians will laugh when they look back at this era.
[07:11:22] <boru> A MEE can't come soon enough. We are in dire need of a culling.
[07:19:25] <FatPhil> we can do it to ourselves, we don't need a piece of interplanetary rock this time.
[07:19:30] -!- SoyCow4696 [SoyCow4696!~b9630369@185.99.z.lls] has joined #soylent
[07:19:37] <SoyCow4696> Jew SCUM.
[07:19:39] <FatPhil> .kick SoyCow4696
[07:19:39] -!- SoyCow4696 was kicked from #soylent by Aphrodite!Aphrodite@dodekatheon.olympus.gr [(FatPhil) No reason given]
[07:21:36] <FatPhil> Eth can go on the B Ark...
[07:22:07] <FatPhil> =submit https://www.bloomberg.com
[07:22:07] <systemd> FatPhil, 04submit failed: Bloomberg is racist against robots!
[07:22:20] <FatPhil> FFS
[07:23:56] <boru> Is the B Ark the manned solar exploration mission?
[07:25:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - James Webb Passes Critical Mission Review for 2021 Launch, Final Testing Nearing Completion - https://sylnt.us
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[07:30:00] <kyonko2> ok now I am fully encrypted
[07:30:56] <boru> Your messages are still plaintext.
[07:32:06] <kyonko2> good
[07:32:19] <kyonko2> is FatPhil still worrying about utf8 swastikas
[07:34:18] <kyonko2> its AES256, but its the thought that count
[07:34:22] <kyonko2> LET'S ENCRYPT!
[07:40:36] <FatPhil> If it's not ASCII I don't like it.
[07:40:50] <FatPhil> And that includes the pound sign, I'm not racist.
[07:41:49] <kyonko2> do you like numerically coded ASCII charecters?
[07:41:56] <kyonko2> is that fine with you?
[07:42:50] <FatPhil> I'm generally encoding neutral, but if you make things difficult for comprehension, I will happily ignore you.
[07:43:00] <kyonko2> OH MY FUCKING GOD _I_DID_ remember this thing correctly as checked by wayback machine
[07:43:00] <boru> Does any font exist which has all of the UTF glyphs? It's rare that I see any of the glyphs render properly.
[07:43:27] <kyonko2> boru: its worse now
[07:43:38] <FatPhil> given that some of the UCS2 space is reserved for "undefined" characters, and lots of websites use those characters, you're fucked.
[07:43:56] <kyonko2> these things remember me of wingdings
[07:44:09] <kyonko2> which is ok, if the website supplies the font to you
[07:44:21] <FatPhil> because they are wingdings, reinvented by people too stupid to remember wingdings.
[07:44:25] <boru> When will September ever end...
[07:44:32] <FatPhil> MEE
[07:44:36] <boru> Heh.
[07:45:06] <FatPhil> I see it's the 10173th of September already...
[07:45:26] <FatPhil> alias aoldate='echo $((`date +%s`/86400-8643))'
[07:45:28] <boru> date(1) gives you that, right?
[07:45:31] <boru> Ah.
[07:46:39] <boru> I think GNU date has it built in.
[07:46:45] <boru> But maybe that patch was rejected.
[07:47:11] <boru> BSD date doesn't have it.
[07:47:41] <FatPhil> =submit https://www.straitstimes.com
[07:47:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03China Bans Construction of Tallest Skyscrapers Following Concerns About Safety" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:48:46] <boru> That's a long time coming.
[07:49:22] <FatPhil> I know that it's been "debunked", but I still kinda believe the "skyscrapers before a crash" theory.
[07:49:42] <boru> I'm not familiar with that one.
[07:50:30] <FatPhil> https://www.bbc.com
[07:50:32] <systemd> ^ 03Skyscrapers 'linked with impending financial crashes'
[07:51:21] <FatPhil> MSM believes it, but an academic once did a deeper dive, and disproved it. So I'm apparently wrong. But I *want* it to be right, dammit!
[07:51:43] <kyonko2> FatPhil: why are you so OCD with ASCII?
[07:52:27] <kyonko2> it was in the early 2010's that the efnet ircd began to transmit utf8
[07:52:45] <kyonko2> at least it isn't facebook, right?
[07:55:33] <kyonko2> too bad I can't see HD video in console
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[07:58:40] <JewScum> FUCK JEW SCUM
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[07:58:45] <JewScum> 2.
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[07:59:04] <JewScum> 13.
[07:59:23] <JewScum> Stopped countin'
[07:59:45] <Runaway1956> Why do you even do this stupid shit?
[07:59:53] <JewScum> Because, Jews are scum rat bastards, bane of the world,
[07:59:53] <kyonko2> I guess soylent is going to need to set up e-mail registration
[07:59:58] <JewScum> denier of its prosperity
[08:00:15] <kyonko2> efnet is going thru the same shit right now
[08:00:20] <kyonko2> reminds me of pre registration freenode in 2011
[08:00:37] <JewScum> "Why is everybody so angry at Jews?"
[08:00:57] <boru> No need for registration; just set +q on $~a.
[08:01:00] <JewScum> "Gee, I don't know, maybe Goyim are just antisemitic by nature"
[08:01:08] <boru> Or set the channel +R
[08:01:50] <JewScum> Does that mean that nobody will see me and that I can discuss the Jews all night long?
[08:02:01] <JewScum> I like that. Let's do it.
[08:03:00] <JewScum> Now let's talk about the Jews. First of all, they are descended from reptiles, not mammals.
[08:03:19] <FatPhil> .kick JewScum
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[08:03:25] <FatPhil> was having a dump, sorry
[08:04:34] <FatPhil> kyonko2: I like ASCII because it got there first, simple as that.
[08:05:11] <FatPhil> Had the brits got there first and included a pound sign, I'd have been happy with the pound sign, I'm not anti-pound.
[08:05:43] <FatPhil> https://www.mandatory.com
[08:05:45] <systemd> ^ 03Exorcisms on the Rise Because Demons Haunt Via Text Now, Catholic Priest Says While Considering New Options For Himself ( https://www.mandatory.com )
[08:12:16] <FatPhil> oh fucks, that reminds me, I need to do UK bank chores today.
[08:13:37] <FatPhil> can you believe financial institutions still use paper cheques? in 2021!?!?!?
[08:14:05] <kyonko2> oh
[08:14:08] * kyonko2 facepalms
[08:14:31] <kyonko2> I had to call in to activate my card, damn the fucking robot voice hurt my ear
[08:14:40] <kyonko2> reminded me of a jet engine as a kid
[08:16:29] <kyonko2> regarding computer history, the brits were pretty close to getting there first
[08:16:52] <kyonko2> but the USA had a bigger labor pool
[08:17:23] <kyonko2> now I have to plan a day to go to the "pound store"
[08:23:15] <FatPhil> we were busy trying to stamp out the Nazis while IBM was helping them. Of course they'd win the characterset wars.
[08:23:42] <kyonko2> oh thats the WW2 we don't talk about
[08:24:04] <kyonko2> or the anti-semitism of henry ford and walt disney
[08:24:17] <FatPhil> fortunately EBCDIC didn't win
[08:25:10] <kyonko2> EBCDIC is still around
[08:25:17] <kyonko2> out of script kiddy reach, but there
[08:25:38] <kyonko2> same as OpenVMS boot mbr on IA-64
[08:25:46] <kyonko2> its just a PC with an IA-64 CPU
[08:26:00] <kyonko2> and a BIOS, which looks for an mbr
[08:26:02] <kyonko2> which boots OpenVMS
[08:26:22] <FatPhil> does the processor have the AA* opcodes?
[08:26:57] <FatPhil> if so, it should refuse to run anything using EBCDIC, lest it be called a hyprocrite
[08:27:22] <kyonko2> IIRC when they planed for IA-64 for consumers
[08:27:27] <kyonko2> it never happened
[08:28:11] <kyonko2> Itanium killed the DEC alpha
[08:29:40] <FatPhil> HP killed DEC Alpha
[08:30:07] <FatPhil> Carli fucking Fiorina killed the DEC Alpha
[08:30:22] <FatPhil> or whatever the waste of biomass's name was
[08:31:32] <FatPhil> I knew people working in HP (in southern .de) who told me that when she resigned, they stopped work, put the break room speakers on the window-sill, and went out and partied in the car park.
[08:33:26] <FatPhil> I did know an academic in the US who did get his hands on a 364 before it was commercially available. Which was never. Shipped him my code occasionally to benchmark it. Nice chip.
[08:34:44] <kyonko2> ok so its one of a kind?
[08:37:06] <FatPhil> I think it was still being fabbed in the US, they hadn't done a Samsung-sided run yet.
[08:37:37] * FatPhil pulls up https://www.lightningmaps.org for the third time this week, and pops a towel under the drips...
[08:39:06] <kyonko2> you got a roof failure
[08:39:26] <kyonko2> heh, Samsung made alphas
[08:39:35] <kyonko2> thats interesting
[08:40:53] <raxas> kyonko2: mplayer has aalib textmode target built in
[08:41:42] <FatPhil> just before the death-knell, DEC licenced Samsung to make their own Alphas and Alpha-based systems. I think my 21164 was a Samsung one.
[08:43:35] <kyonko2> FatPhil: Sudden death, the best death :)
[08:46:11] <FatPhil> rather than screaming in panic, like his passengers
[08:50:02] <kyonko2> hmmm
[08:50:06] <kyonko2> was it really that bad?
[08:50:20] <kyonko2> it was just one of many shitty things to come in computer science
[08:52:49] <FatPhil> That's the punchline to a joke
[08:53:21] <FatPhil> I'd like to die peacefully in my sleep, like my dad did, ...
[08:53:47] <FatPhil> BOOOM! that was close
[08:57:49] <kyonko2> never know how death is going to happen
[08:57:57] <kyonko2> better to leave it in your own hands
[09:21:48] <FatPhil> I consider that one of the most overlooked fundamental human rights. Alas it's a rather taboo topic, so I don't expect much progress in that direction. We're still too demon-haunted.
[09:22:45] <kyonko2> I think it requires personal intelligence
[09:24:21] <FatPhil> I'm not suggesting free suicides for all, on the taxpayer, I just think it should be one of the options available to people when there are no better options.
[09:24:47] <chromas> New Suicide Booths, brought to you by RomneyCare
[09:24:55] <FatPhil> having said that, seeing what gen-z's like, we could try a pilot study of free suicides for all.
[09:26:06] <kyonko2> gen-zzz's
[09:26:23] <kyonko2> the female of the species in gen-z is...... without a psyche
[09:26:26] <kyonko2> soul-less
[09:38:01] <raxas> do not forget about fundamental principle of capitalism: humans as resources. my bet such booths will disassemble people to marketable organs alive. for free, of course
[09:39:00] <chromas> Nothing wrong with that. My body, my choice
[09:40:10] <FatPhil> yeah, but I would prefer to chose my consumers
[09:41:00] <chromas> You can pick which brand of booth you use based on which consumers they lie about your parts going to, before being sent over to China for 'recycling'
[09:41:44] <FatPhil> good luck to the poor fucker who gets my liver
[09:42:05] <FatPhil> he'll want a refund
[09:42:17] <chromas> Why's that? From the sounds of things, it's well vaxxed against alcohol
[09:42:31] <raxas> your body is owned by state. that's why you pay taxes to state. when you decide to suicide, it is a loss of future payments and you owe that. so, first you should pay well for such suicide option
[09:43:28] <FatPhil> oh, so I can sue the state?
[09:44:15] <chromas> from beyond the grave accent
[09:46:38] <FatPhil> I don't have grave accent, I have acute accent.
[09:47:08] <chromas> I knew you'd have a different angle!
[09:48:25] <raxas> vaccination campaign is a perfect demonstration of how commoners (non-sovereign) do not own their bodies
[09:48:33] <kyonko2> raxas: when you pay taxes, you are just giving the state back the very same money it printed
[09:53:04] <raxas> no. you are giving to owners of the state a part of value of work you did to earn your wage
[09:53:22] <kyonko2> but they still printed that money
[09:53:32] <kyonko2> its not like gold/silver from international trade
[09:53:49] <kyonko2> then you just end up with more gold/silver from another state
[09:54:18] <kyonko2> which explains the roman empire very fucking well
[09:55:37] <raxas> you are not allowed to own gold in murica. to keep you paying taxes in funny money. meanwhile, in europe gold is not taxed at all when traded
[09:56:17] <FatPhil> [citation needed]
[09:56:32] <chromas> If we allowed alternatives to USD then we'd have to invade ourselves and install a puppet regime
[09:56:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - “Broadcom is a Monopolist”: FTC Orders Chipmaker to Stop Illegal Tactics - https://sylnt.us - we-look-forward-to-putting-this-matter-behind-us
[09:57:17] <chromas> I don't see anybody going after Qualcomm for CDMA2000
[09:57:40] <kyonko2> Isn't qualcomm american huawei?
[09:57:57] <kyonko2> I haven't heard shit about qualcomm since blackberry went extinct
[09:58:00] <kyonko2> fucking RIM job
[09:58:01] <FatPhil> chromas++ you already have one!
[09:58:01] <Bender> karma - chromas: 371
[09:58:32] <chromas> actually I've got two RIM jobs
[09:58:39] <kyonko2> do they still work?
[09:58:53] <kyonko2> what will you do when they fall apart?
[09:59:05] <chromas> Maybe if there was a cell site that supports the ancient 3g still
[09:59:22] <chromas> not sure about battery status
[09:59:31] <kyonko2> so you just have bricks
[09:59:37] <chromas> they're the ones with the clicky screen
[09:59:49] <kyonko2> yes I know what those fucking things are
[09:59:52] <kyonko2> I'm a mexican remember
[10:00:00] <chromas> most BBs didn't have that, so
[10:00:22] <kyonko2> I have a lot of weird bozo tech too
[10:00:57] <kyonko2> its like damn.... 2009 had flat screens for tower pc desktops
[10:01:02] <kyonko2> the fuck
[10:01:23] <kyonko2> why do I need a tower pc desktop with a DVD-RW
[10:01:35] <kyonko2> why do I need a usb thumb drive
[10:01:39] <kyonko2> I don't need any of things
[10:03:07] <raxas> FatPhil: citation: https://www.zlatobezdph.cz no DPH (value added tax) for investment gold
[10:03:10] <systemd> ^ 03Zlatá kilogramová investiční mince Český lev standard (ČM 2021)
[10:04:51] <raxas> so. all the aristocratic nobility do their sovereign trading to each other without taxing to state, if they pay gold
[10:07:49] <raxas> but. murica is just a colony, so no rights to own private gold for citizens
[10:08:32] <raxas> and please note: India is not a colony anymore, so people there own lot of gold at home
[10:09:47] <FatPhil> citation was needed for "you are not allowed to own gold in murica"
[10:10:13] <FatPhil> this guy seems to think otherwise: https://goldsilver.com
[10:10:15] <systemd> ^ 03GoldSilver: The Leader in Bullion & Precious Metals Investments;
[10:10:44] <chromas> How do they shape their bullion in India? Do they...caste it?
[10:11:11] <raxas> https://fee.org
[10:11:12] <FatPhil> I'll caste you out of the window if you're not careful
[10:11:12] <systemd> ^ 03Gold Is Legal, But... | Robert G. Anderson
[10:12:17] <raxas> => in murica, gold is not money, by law
[10:13:15] <FatPhil> herp derp, no-one's said otherwise.
[10:14:32] <raxas> and good luck to get a real gold from real someone, only paper certificates on market
[10:15:03] <FatPhil> Now read the website I pointed you towards.
[10:15:04] <raxas> that's not a true gold, just some other papers
[10:15:49] <FatPhil> Does being so wrong repeatedly hurt a lot?
[10:16:14] <FatPhil> Buy real gold here, whilst there's still some in the vaults: http://www.bullionvaultaffiliate.com
[10:16:16] <systemd> ^ 03Buy Gold, Silver & Platinum Bullion Online ( https://www.bullionvault.com )
[10:16:36] <FatPhil> yes, that is an affiliate link, I own PMs through them.
[10:17:41] <raxas> the site you linked is a typical ownership scam
[10:17:45] <raxas> With InstaVault Gold, you own a fractional interest in real physical gold bars stored in our network of independent vaults in the U.S.
[10:17:47] <chromas> You can't own PaleMoons in Estonia
[10:18:24] <raxas> this not the gold you own, this is just some funny share registered on _their_ gold, they keep it
[10:18:35] <raxas> so, bwahahaha
[10:19:12] <FatPhil> Bullcrap.
[10:36:52] <t3> finally, power is back
[10:43:23] <chromas> Welcome back to the itnernet
[11:57:02] <requerdanos> I own shares of various companies, but that doesn't mean the companies are here at my home.
[12:23:15] <FatPhil> buy uranium miners. (this is not financial advice, I am not your financial adviser)
[12:24:19] <FatPhil> Heck, I own euros and pounds, and almost all of those aren't even real money in the banks that are pretending to look after them for me.
[12:25:41] <chromas> Is there a distance and/or touchmanship threshold for ownership? Like do I need to keep a hand on my pc at all times or
[12:25:48] <FatPhil> But my silver is worth way less if I take physical posession of it, and would cost me more, so why the heck would I want to do that?
[12:26:06] <chromas> How far away can I get before I don't possess it?
[12:26:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Instant Water Cleaning Method ‘Millions of Times’ Better Than Commercial Approach - https://sylnt.us - oh-hydrogen-you-never-stop-giving
[12:26:36] <chromas> from the uh-huh-sure dept.
[12:26:38] <FatPhil> I trust Brink's vaults more than I trust my front door too.
[12:27:27] <FatPhil> chromas: quantum-mechanically, as long as you're thinking about your computer, you're entangled to it, so it remains yours.
[12:27:47] <FatPhil> so make sure you look at a particularly shocking image every time you leave your seat.
[12:29:57] <FatPhil> =submit https://www.wsj.com
[12:30:01] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03WSJ News Exclusive | WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange Wouldn’t Go to Supermax If Extradited, U.S. Says" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:33:25] <chromas> I'm thinking about your stash o' silver
[12:33:36] <chromas> it's mine now
[12:34:25] <kyonko2> fortify and gunify
[12:57:48] <Bytram> raxas: https://www.usmint.gov
[12:57:49] <systemd> ^ 03American Eagle Gold Bullion Coins
[12:58:16] <Bytram> ^^^ "Year of Issue: 1986 to Present"
[12:59:13] <Bytram> ^^^ Authorizing Legislation: Public Law 99-185 ( https://www.gpo.gov )
[12:59:39] <Bytram> https://www.usmint.gov
[12:59:40] <systemd> ^ 03American Eagle Coin Program | U.S. Mint
[13:00:36] <t3> heh, they won't send assange to supermax, they'll keep him in the shittiest holding cell they can find for 10 years
[13:01:12] <t3> no amenities, no commisary, no phone
[13:02:54] <Bytram> solitary confinement?
[13:02:59] <Bytram> visitors?
[13:03:09] <Bytram> Gitmo?
[13:03:26] <t3> no need, just keep him in court on appeal
[13:04:10] <Bytram> In jail, with no bail, indefinitely.
[13:06:38] <kyonko2> give assange to a mexican slave trader
[13:07:08] <kyonko2> unless you been living under a rock, its not a secret how latin american "works"
[13:07:34] <kyonko2> assange didn't even do anything, compared to snowden
[13:07:42] <kyonko2> but snowden learned from assange
[13:08:24] <kyonko2> what was the whole thing against assange, the video leaked by bradley now chelsea manning of the helicopter mowing down some "MAM's"
[13:08:34] <kyonko2> IT'S MAM
[13:08:41] <kyonko2> (military aged male)
[13:09:03] <requerdanos> assange should be tried promptly and sentenced to time served.
[13:09:07] <kyonko2> hell, the damn bunker snowden was in hawaii was quite impressive
[13:09:29] <kyonko2> it was designed in WW2 to be an underground aircraft factory... for "reasons"
[13:09:59] <kyonko2> and much more behind the stories of the modern world
[13:11:06] <kyonko2> if the russians love to kill people with nerve agents and radionuclides, then I was thinking the americans were going to get snowden inside of russia with some kind of man made virus that the carrier that gets close to him infects him
[13:11:19] <kyonko2> of course, the carrier is immune
[13:11:40] <kyonko2> only the russian nation-state could then do an autopsy on such a death and prove a man made disease got him
[13:11:52] <kyonko2> but who believes anything russians say
[13:13:16] <kyonko2> but how do you get an infected carrier to the victim without taking others down with him?
[13:13:25] <kyonko2> mysterious insulin and needles?
[13:13:30] <kyonko2> CHECK THE INSULIN VIALS
[13:14:02] <requerdanos> I'm sorry, you're saying russia should carry out a hit job on a political target for the US?
[13:15:21] <chromas> Why not? We're all friends here
[13:15:37] <chromas> I spy for you, you spy for me. Why not hits as well?
[13:15:51] <kyonko2> assange was the precedent, over the bradley manning video
[13:15:58] <kyonko2> manning leaked it to wikileaks
[13:16:13] <kyonko2> everyone freaked out, sudden acusation of rape against assange was made in sweden
[13:16:25] <kyonko2> assange locks down in the ecuadorian embassy in london for a really long fucking time
[13:16:41] <requerdanos> assange also turns out to be something of a jerk, complicating things
[13:16:52] <kyonko2> the video is shit, literal shit compared to the raw sewage that would come out of latin american from criminal smart phone
[13:17:19] <kyonko2> there is also a long story on why ecuador gave assange a shelter
[13:18:39] <kyonko2> jya of cryptome.org was disappointed on how assange didn't "become heavier" on being carried away from embassy
[13:18:51] <kyonko2> and since cryptome.org isn't what it used to be
[13:19:11] <kyonko2> its just some architects log of dangerous buildings in NYC
[14:05:56] <FatPhil> uh-oh - I hear bagpipes. I think the Old Town days have started.
[14:12:39] <kyonko2> bag pipes for dangerous buildings
[14:22:16] <FatPhil> I think florida's got us beat
[14:22:28] <FatPhil> and china, it seems
[14:56:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Bans Construction of Tallest Skyscrapers Following Concerns About Safety - https://sylnt.us
[15:31:41] <Teckla> Mental note: live in short, squat structures that are unlikely to collapse.
[15:32:55] <chromas> or at least consider safety when building
[15:33:30] <chromas> have you seen any of the metric dozens of video clips of stuff breaking in china?
[15:33:55] <requerdanos> chinese stuff breaks??
[15:33:57] <chromas> escalator panels breaking and pulling people under and whatnot
[15:40:28] <Teckla> chromas: Ya... Chinese buildings collapsing and such are pretty much par for the course over there
[15:40:41] <Teckla> You would think they would actually save money by having more regulations and oversight
[15:40:48] <Teckla> Replacing collapsed buildings can't be cheap
[15:43:15] <boru> AIUI, it's more about doing things quickly over there so as to cause the least amount of disruption.
[15:44:07] <t3> corruption/nepotism are big drivers of poor quality buildings
[15:47:20] <chromas> Don't worry about the buildings; go find some more Hunny
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[16:02:04] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[16:02:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03EU Fines VW and BMW £750m for Colluding With Daimler on Fumes" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:09:51] <Teckla> chromas: Hunny?
[16:10:02] <requerdanos> graft? bribes?
[17:26:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Giant 3D Calico Cat Takes Over One of Tokyo's Biggest Billboards - https://sylnt.us - giant-cats-warning-in-japan
[18:54:11] <FatPhil> Teckla: my mental note: live in buildings that have already stood for 450 years without problems.
[20:07:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Charlotte Flight to Bahamas Canceled when Boston-Area High Schoolers Refuse to Wear Masks - https://sylnt.us - kick-them-off
[20:10:41] <kyonko2> china complained and shut down liveleak.com JFYI
[20:17:51] <chromas> Teckla: Winnie the Poo is the boss over there, if I remember right
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[20:36:05] <kyonko2> I don't know what the fuck is going on "over there" but whatever it is, it isn't fair
[20:36:35] <kyonko2> eventually you will need to sleep and eat after kicking everyone's ass in the name of fairness
[20:39:58] <Teckla> FatPhil: Now I want to move into an Egyptian pyramid.
[20:40:13] <Teckla> chromas: oh! right :)
[20:46:21] <Bytram> =yt walk like an Egytian
[20:46:21] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Bangles - Walk Like an Egyptian (Video Version) (03:23; 95,721,452 views; 👍545,628 👎19,023)
[20:47:11] <FatPhil> I said 450 not 4500, but the principle probably still applies.
[20:48:15] <FatPhil> Our office is ~300 years old, and the home is ~450, it definitely existed in the town records in 1537.
[20:48:55] <Teckla> Technically speaking, the pyramids "have already stood for 450 years without problems." I'm going to have to claim victory on this one! \o/
[20:49:13] <Teckla> Well, maybe not without problems.
[20:49:21] <FatPhil> well, if you can buy one, I'll happily award you the victory
[20:50:25] <Teckla> I wonder if Egypt would sell a pyramid for any amount of money, and if so, how much.
[20:51:00] <Teckla> I always thought the idea of living in one of those decommissioned ICBM silos would be neat, but I've seen some videos of the inside of them. They're a disaster.
[20:51:47] <Teckla> A Hobbit hole would be neat.
[20:53:59] <t3> they require a good location though, you do no want flooding when your house is a basement
[20:54:28] <kyonko2> FatPhil: but your roof is leaking
[20:54:50] <kyonko2> anything "bunker" is really really uncomfortable
[20:55:09] <kyonko2> I visited a decomissioned ICBM site (titan II) in the late 1990's
[20:55:20] <kyonko2> we got told how the rocket worked and was always ready, cool
[20:55:34] <kyonko2> we never were allowed to see the living quarters (the bunkbeds)
[20:55:47] <kyonko2> not cool
[20:56:35] <kyonko2> you could get all socrates over the "philosophy of commanding weapons"
[20:56:51] <kyonko2> and the whole site was filled with cold war relics
[20:57:04] <kyonko2> and an sr-71 airframe
[20:57:23] <kyonko2> the staff told us how the russians were always watching us from above
[20:57:29] <kyonko2> ok, cool
[20:57:37] <kyonko2> (this would get worse, trust me)
[20:58:30] <kyonko2> the thing I wanted to see was not the damn titan II airframe, but how the humans lived locked in down there
[20:58:42] <kyonko2> but you learn to be happy with what you get
[20:58:58] <kyonko2> this was the late 1990's anyway
[20:59:17] <kyonko2> if I had more money I would have gone to the trinity site
[20:59:21] <kyonko2> money and BALLS
[20:59:31] <kyonko2> because the geographical area and weather WILL FUCKING KILL YOU
[20:59:41] <Teckla> The decom ICBM silos I saw all had bad water leaks requiring constant pumping/maintenance
[20:59:49] <kyonko2> yeah Teckla something like that
[21:00:17] <kyonko2> this is why gates/soros/turner/steyer are all hubris filled
[21:00:34] <kyonko2> not that soros is going to stop aging
[21:01:04] <t3> sounds like it would be a fun reality TV show - lock a bunch of people in a silo and make them steal the codes from each other
[21:01:16] <kyonko2> IIRC, the silo sites only had enough food and water for the crew to survive the hottest of the fallout particles
[21:01:29] <kyonko2> magical codes!
[21:01:52] <kyonko2> in the 2000's the nukes had something called "PAL"
[21:02:00] <kyonko2> the more well known one was of the B61 gravity bomb
[21:02:09] <kyonko2> permissive action link
[21:02:17] <Teckla> It turns out there's a reason 99% of humanity lives above the ground
[21:02:31] <kyonko2> Teckla: and on the ocean front
[21:02:51] <kyonko2> the B61 wasn't retired, it works good for bullying weak nation-states
[21:02:59] <FatPhil> kyonko2: the roof was put on 9 years ago!
[21:03:02] <Teckla> kyonko2: But... tsunamis :(
[21:03:18] <kyonko2> FatPhil: do you know exactly the pathway of the water leak?
[21:03:29] <Teckla> Living near the ocean is great UNTIL THE TSUNAMI KILLS YOU D:
[21:03:31] <FatPhil> still no, alas
[21:03:31] <kyonko2> do you know the roof as seen from the outside?
[21:03:45] <kyonko2> Teckla: here where I live, the sun will do it
[21:04:08] <FatPhil> the building opposite has just put up some scaffolding, maybe I can pop up there with my camera and snap anything suspicious.
[21:04:13] <kyonko2> I think I was so stupid as a kid, I couldn't fathom why visiting the trinity site in summer was a very bad idea
[21:04:32] <kyonko2> FatPhil: but you are porky and have a foot injury
[21:04:59] <Teckla> kyonko2: Where do you live again?
[21:05:21] <kyonko2> trump's wall
[21:05:27] <kyonko2> which is totally photogenic
[21:05:40] <FatPhil> I have a nasty feeling I'll be living with the gyp from my ankle injury for the rest of my life, it's been playing up today, for example. Kinda goes away when i pop out for a walk though.
[21:05:47] <kyonko2> but not only has the lockdown not been officially ended by joe biden, I also don't have money to just zip around town
[21:06:01] <FatPhil> I'm sure he can print some more for you
[21:06:06] <FatPhil> brrrrrr!!!!
[21:06:16] <kyonko2> instead of ending "15 days to flatten the curve" biden just kneels infront of the new israeli government
[21:06:43] <Teckla> kyonko2: Oh, right
[21:06:45] <kyonko2> really?
[21:06:56] <kyonko2> he didn't announce the end of "15 days to flatten" the curve?
[21:07:01] <kyonko2> this was supposed to happen on jul 4
[21:07:08] <Teckla> FatPhil: gyp?
[21:07:12] <kyonko2> so I guess we kinda moved on like raped kids?
[21:07:20] <kyonko2> just don't rape other kids, raped kid
[21:08:06] <kyonko2> not only was "15 days to flatten the curve" supposed to end on jul 4 2020, we were also supposed to get HD 4K video of naked little green men
[21:08:19] <kyonko2> no homo
[21:08:27] <Teckla> Don't forget about the little green women!
[21:09:32] <t3> are people still paying attention to that stuff? the majority haven't been masking here since may
[21:09:52] <kyonko2> t3: everyone is sick and tired of covid19
[21:10:01] <kyonko2> I wonder why they aren't sick and tired of god
[21:10:23] <kyonko2> I was pretty sick and tired of god as soon as I got my confirmation as a catholic kid
[21:10:27] <kyonko2> its catholic bar mitzvah
[21:11:35] <Teckla> My household stopped masking when we all were 2 weeks post vaccination and the public mask requirement expired.
[21:11:38] <kyonko2> I got jewed on the whole godfather thing
[21:11:42] <kyonko2> (jerry seinfeld humor)
[21:11:53] <Teckla> No problem so far, though it sounds like the Delta variant is different enough that even fully vaccinated people can get sick.
[21:12:01] <kyonko2> well, I never masked up inside my house, with my "family unit"
[21:12:03] <t3> I didn't realize people actually thought god was real until I was in middle school
[21:12:13] <Teckla> kyonko2: I got Confirmed too :)
[21:12:31] <Teckla> The Catholicism did not take hold though, I'm a heathen.
[21:12:40] <kyonko2> Teckla: yeah we pretty much not have a choice, so was my first love, her facebook photo from the 1990's is a big fucking frown
[21:13:04] <kyonko2> I remember the confirmation era very well actually as I was 13 and running linux slackware
[21:13:12] <Teckla> Children are rarely given a choice by their parents and are just plain indoctrinated/brainwashed
[21:13:54] <kyonko2> oh well, catholics don't just rape/molest kids, they beat them quite hard too
[21:14:02] <kyonko2> or not hard enough as I recall being bullyed
[21:14:15] <kyonko2> (the bullies didn't hit hard, they "held back")
[21:14:19] <Teckla> At around 11 or 12, I thought, "Huh, all the Christians are 100% sure they're right, all the Jews are 100% sure they're right, all the Muslims are 100% sure they're right, all the Hindus are 100% sure they're right, all the Buddhists are 100% sure they're right... this makes no fucking sense."
[21:15:19] <kyonko2> I'm on the edge of my seat over "delta plus (double good) variant"
[21:15:30] <Teckla> And a few years after that my parents gave up taking me to Church on Sundays :)
[21:15:37] <Teckla> HEATHEN CHILD
[21:15:37] <Bytram> Teckla: I suppose you are 100% right!
[21:15:37] <t3> my mom told me god was like santa and the easter bunny, don't tell the other kids
[21:15:38] <kyonko2> as a lot of people tend to believe masking never protects anyone from anything, REALLY
[21:15:53] <kyonko2> oh NORAD SANTA :)
[21:15:59] <kyonko2> don't tell other kids??????
[21:16:00] <Teckla> Regarding the Delta variant, I just don't think people are going to accept another lockdown...
[21:16:04] <Teckla> Bytram: lol
[21:16:08] <kyonko2> TELL OTHER KIDS, ESPECIALLY THE OPPOSITE SEX!!!!!
[21:16:13] <Teckla> Bytram: I'm 100% unsure!
[21:16:20] <kyonko2> whats wrong with lockdown's, they save money
[21:16:46] <Teckla> I raised my kid honestly and did not lie about things like Santa, Easter Bunny, etc.
[21:16:55] <kyonko2> I have a lot of expensive camera gear to end up breaking or having seized taking shots of "trump's wall"
[21:17:00] <Teckla> Heathen child leads to terrible parent apparently
[21:17:20] <Teckla> Bytram: Apologies if you are religious! I do not want to offend anyone
[21:17:36] <kyonko2> ironically, when travel is so beaurocratic and expensive, you don't end up photographing much at all
[21:17:37] <Bytram> no offense taken.
[21:17:58] <chromas> Jesus was as Epstein Island
[21:18:00] <kyonko2> one of my cameras can capture the constellations
[21:18:01] <Teckla> I am 100% cool with people making their own spiritual choices
[21:18:09] <chromas> "suffer the little children to cum unto me"
[21:18:22] <Teckla> chromas: Ewww...
[21:18:38] <chromas> it's in the bible
[21:18:48] <kyonko2> I have a really bad feeling I will be tracked and detained and search for taking a pic of "trump's wall"
[21:18:54] <chromas> that means it's true, because it says it is
[21:19:02] <kyonko2> geofencing law enforcement is REAL
[21:19:26] <kyonko2> but hey, everyone wants to hit the streets and get fucked up and rape and murder
[21:19:39] <Teckla> chromas: People are mistranslating that part. What it really translates to is, "Give Teckla all your money"
[21:19:50] <chromas> ok
[21:19:57] <chromas> but I'm not Jewish so it doesn't apply ;)
[21:20:02] <Teckla> haha :)
[21:20:11] <kyonko2> Teckla: so when you got confirmation, did they tell you, OK BOY, NOW YOU EITHER GET MARRIED OR BECOME A PRIEST
[21:20:14] <chromas> in other news, QMK sucks
[21:20:26] <Teckla> In other *other* news, QNX used to really rule :)
[21:20:27] <kyonko2> chromas: its crypto-jew
[21:20:36] <kyonko2> QNX ruled in the 1999's
[21:20:56] <kyonko2> the catholic church refuses to wed adults who don't have confirmation paperwork
[21:21:07] <kyonko2> (sounds a lot like covid1984 cult vaccine proof eh)
[21:21:27] <Teckla> kyonko2: I don't remember anymore. What I remember the most is getting a lot of presents!!! Woo hoo!!! ...but they ended up being all religion-based... boo hoo!!!
[21:21:47] <kyonko2> oh ugh, yeah, its very bar mitzvah like, do girls get a bar mitzvah?
[21:21:56] <chromas> don't be catholic then. be protestant! let's all argue over the meaning of the same word in the same books
[21:22:02] <kyonko2> a pious jewish girl would have to turn me down after seeing naked btw
[21:22:19] <kyonko2> "i'm sorry, I can't, but I had to see you naked first"
[21:22:26] <Teckla> The disappointment of hoping that wrapped present was a robot, but nope... bible... cross... rosary beads...
[21:22:35] * Teckla is still emotionally traumatized
[21:22:49] <chromas> kyonko2: you just have to do a little makeup contouring down there
[21:22:50] <kyonko2> ugh, I remember the robot I got as a kid, it smelled very.... hydrocarbony, it was a steel toy
[21:22:54] <Teckla> kyonko2: hrmm. if i got confirmation paperwork, it's long gone.
[21:23:07] <kyonko2> Teckla: my mom was going APE over that paperwork a few years ago
[21:23:28] <kyonko2> it was just a stupid little cardboard box, looked like some kind of photo album
[21:23:34] <Bytram> Teckla: I have read prolly 70% of the (cathoic) bible... even fixed typos and added actual hyper links to all the instances of plain text "See Matthew 12:14-15" that was in their first available-on-line version of the bible. I'm grateful for that study, but do not practice a religion now. Let's say instead of religious (somebody else dictates what I am supposed to believe), I'm spiritual. Dunno *what* it is, but I find it helpful.
[21:24:12] <kyonko2> Bytram: the law is exactly the same way
[21:24:25] <kyonko2> you would think the WWW would be the shit for lawyers, it isn't, never was, never will be
[21:24:28] <kyonko2> well, HTML
[21:25:09] <chromas> it should be. they like wordperfect, which uses (binary) html-style formatting tags
[21:25:11] <kyonko2> yeah spirituality and magic help me cope with today's uncope-able society
[21:25:27] <raxas> https://gizmodo.com
[21:25:28] <systemd> ^ 03This 450-year-old clockwork monk is fully operational
[21:25:44] <Teckla> Bytram: I do not believe in any particular religion and consider myself generically spiritual.
[21:25:53] <raxas> https://mysteriousuniverse.org
[21:25:54] <systemd> ^ 03Robotic Buddhist Monk Preaches at a Kyoto Temple
[21:26:03] <kyonko2> I could argue that spirituality ISNT real
[21:26:12] <chromas> may the power of the poettering be with you
[21:26:13] <kyonko2> but thats like yelling at the grand canyon
[21:26:23] <kyonko2> oh hell no, a robot priest?
[21:26:36] <Bytram> biab
[21:26:42] <kyonko2> you know the saudi government gave sophia citizenship
[21:26:44] <chromas> why not? the congregation is already robots
[21:27:07] <kyonko2> sophia is like a mechanical turk
[21:27:12] <kyonko2> i don't see the big deal
[21:36:55] <raxas> you can argue as well that math is not real just as the spirituality is not real. but that does not prevent the non-existent things to have effects
[21:37:57] <raxas> for example, religious wars caused by worshipping non-existent gods are such existential effects
[21:38:37] <chromas> I pray to Π every day and he helps me get to the ∛ of my problems
[21:39:07] <raxas> so as the math have material effects, such as engineering, just by manipulating abstract things
[21:39:57] <raxas> and this is also how spirituality works, imaginary things causing real effects
[21:42:36] <kyonko2> raxas: feynman made abstract things real, such as putting grains of sand in a cup and counting that
[21:42:50] <kyonko2> and THEN MATH GOT MENTAL
[21:43:18] <kyonko2> I assume grains of sand in a cup are great for dealing with quantum mechanics
[21:43:35] <kyonko2> you could use salt or sugar in a cup, but those tend to make lumps
[21:43:38] <kyonko2> like electrons
[21:43:41] <kyonko2> they come in lumps
[21:44:02] <kyonko2> eventually a bunch of lump sums of electrons make up FatPhil's ASCII
[21:44:18] <raxas> sugar is very interesting thing, magically. it has plenty of strange electric effects
[21:44:39] <raxas> you can get gamma radiation just by crushing sugar
[21:45:31] <kyonko2> and yeah, spirituality and magic DO WORK!
[21:45:53] <kyonko2> raxas: is this like the invisible tape discovery back in 2009?
[21:46:02] <raxas> yes
[21:46:12] <raxas> tardigrates hibernate forever just by filling themselves with sugar
[21:46:13] <kyonko2> what was the big deals of science in 2009? the x-rays from invisible tape and the pistol shrimp
[21:46:26] <kyonko2> tardigrades look funny
[21:46:37] <raxas> and india temples, sugar is the core offering
[21:46:43] <kyonko2> arizona has a lot of tiny spiders, if you can notice tiny spiders, then there MUST BE MITES
[21:47:30] <Bytram> kyonko2: well, there mite be ;)
[21:47:38] <kyonko2> why do I remember 2009 as "the future"
[21:47:51] <kyonko2> why do I remember 2009 as "satisfactory"
[21:48:05] <kyonko2> why was the eeePC "enough"
[21:48:27] <kyonko2> I had something like an eeePC, but with a DVD-RW
[21:49:27] <raxas> I still have two eeepcs here somewhere around. netbsd is fine on them
[21:50:42] <kyonko2> I understand 100% that the powers that be don't want us leaving our homes
[21:50:47] <kyonko2> (if we are lucky enough to have one)
[21:50:52] <raxas> one 701 and another more advanced 64bit mini
[21:51:26] <kyonko2> probably the only exponential expense in 2009 was my car and driving
[21:51:29] <kyonko2> in time and money
[21:51:56] <kyonko2> and yes I do freak myself out with spirituality and magic
[21:52:16] <kyonko2> what if I did have children, a good relationship with their mother, and raised a girl to be a vessel for a soul
[21:52:36] <kyonko2> then I just would have raised yet another solitary human, only a female version of my face
[22:31:28] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[22:31:30] <systemd> ^ 03クロス新宿ビジョン ライブカメラ
[22:31:39] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[22:31:40] <systemd> https://youtube.com - クロス新宿ビジョン ライブカメラ (00; 190,048 views; 👍1,349 👎67)
[22:34:32] <requerdanos> ^ Kurosu Shinjuku bijon raibu kamera
[23:37:07] <raxas> hacking such toys for good will increase your street fame up to legendary. wicked preying on corpos by ransomware is just low barbaric