#soylent | Logs for 2021-06-23

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[00:00:00] <Runaway1956> curl --proto '=https' --tlsv1.2 -sSf https://sh.rustup.rs | sh
[00:00:02] <Bytram> THAT sounds painful!
[00:00:34] <Bytram> Runaway1956: Wrong window?
[00:01:25] <Runaway1956> nope, I'm just looking at rust, and I find it odd that I might have to go outside my repositories to install it
[00:02:04] <Bytram> gnawed gnawed
[00:02:14] <FatPhil> when I worked for some megacorp they tried to push rust as the future at some conf I had to attend.
[00:02:24] <Runaway1956> OK, it's in my repostitie-ories
[00:02:49] <Bytram> Runaway1956: s/re/su/
[00:02:49] <SedBot> <Bytram> <Runaway1956> OK, it's in my supostitie-ories
[00:02:57] <FatPhil> the first question after the first presentation basically asked "how can you have both the speed X and the safety Y?"
[00:03:24] <FatPhil> the rust devs said, after 5 minutes of flapping "you can't"
[00:03:38] <Bytram> Easy! Go fast AND break things!
[00:03:59] <FatPhil> questioner was of course a low level C programmer like me.
[00:04:12] <FatPhil> I think I applauded, even though I was asleep
[00:04:20] <Runaway1956> Is Rust the new systemd then?
[00:04:48] <FatPhil> literally 2 hours after getting off a 10 hour eastwards flight.
[00:05:13] <FatPhil> I had no idea what time it wan in any time zone
[00:05:32] <FatPhil> I didn't know if it was 5 o'clock anywhere.
[00:05:38] <Runaway1956> I seldom have any idea what time it is in my own timezone
[00:05:59] <Runaway1956> I get up when I gotta pee, I go to bed when I fall off my chair
[00:06:45] <FatPhil> you need more interesting pub crawls
[00:07:26] <Runaway1956> I got tired of getting kicked out of bars because the clientele all had sticks up their arses
[00:07:51] <FatPhil> if that happens in every ber, then maybe...
[00:08:12] <Runaway1956> New Years 1983 - - - nahhh, you don't want to hear that
[00:08:17] <Bytram> FatPhil: s/be/bee/
[00:08:17] <SedBot> <Bytram> <FatPhil> if that happens in every beer, then maybe...
[00:08:35] <Bytram> =g CCVPR
[00:08:36] <systemd> http://www.ccvpr.org - CCVPR 2021-2021 4th International Joint Conference on Computer ...
[00:08:41] <FatPhil> in, as in under the surface, of course
[00:09:51] <FatPhil> 1983 NYE? Pissed as a fart, that I can assure you.
[00:10:33] <FatPhil> almost certainly on cider, being age 12
[00:16:29] <Runaway1956> I told ya, you don't want to hear that one
[00:17:30] <Runaway1956> It started out in Times Square, and only goes downhill from there
[00:27:56] <FatPhil> as long as neither of our stories end in a teenage pregnancy, everything's better than it could be.
[00:28:48] <FatPhil> and mine doesn't, so we're 50% of the way there
[00:29:22] <Runaway1956> You were 12, and I was 27, so neither of us was a teen
[00:30:03] <FatPhil> i was never expecting you to be the one getting pregnant
[00:30:16] <Runaway1956> me neither, lol
[00:30:25] <FatPhil> unless there' something you're hiding from us
[00:31:53] <FatPhil> Fuck me, you started a right troll splortfest on the aussie story!
[00:32:23] <Runaway1956> aussie story? Maybe I need to look at it again?
[00:32:31] <FatPhil> btw - your +5 post I totally agree with, had it not been at +5, I'd have helped it there.
[00:33:29] <FatPhil> "Re: Well Duh"
[00:35:29] <FatPhil> covid tracking app
[00:36:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Problem Isn’t Remote Working -- It’s Clinging to Office-Based Practices - https://sylnt.us
[00:36:58] <FatPhil> I'm on my phone, and have no superpowers, it would be interesting to decloak some of the oh-so-sure-of-themselves ACs. But life's too short for that.
[00:37:46] <Runaway1956> It's amusing seeing two ACs going head-to-head
[00:38:06] <Runaway1956> How do I know the original AC hasn't gone to bed, and someone stepped in to keep the argument going?
[00:44:58] <FatPhil> handwriting analysis
[00:53:15] <FatPhil> might be cool enough to contemplate sleep, cheeriebye for today...
[02:37:01] <progo> it's 3 or 4, not 2
[02:37:23] <progo> my friend has a theory that 80% or 90% of all content on the Internet -- site-owned, comments, everything -- is bots
[02:37:50] <AzumaHazuki> i dunno about that high, but corporate stupidity has done a good job of shitting it up
[02:38:32] <progo> since I've only hung out FTF with this friend a few days over many years, she might also be a bot. I have to consider that
[03:07:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mars Helicopter Ingenuity Nails 8th Flight on the Red Planet - https://sylnt.us
[05:19:50] <chromas> Runaway1956: actually yes. systemd has features just specifically to clean up after guhnome3 sessions because the gnome devs are too lazy to do it right. Same with rust and mozzarella devs
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[05:47:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boston Dynamics is Officially Part of Hyundai Motor Group - https://sylnt.us - dogged-determination
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[07:16:27] <c0lo> =submit https://www.abc.net.au
[07:16:31] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03More Than 150 Houston Hospital Workers Sacked for Refusing COVID Vaccinations - ABC News" (51p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[07:50:48] <FatPhil> I shalll be heading out to this guy's monument later today: https://www.wikizero.com
[07:51:03] <systemd> ^ 03Wikizero - Charles Leroux
[07:51:54] <FatPhil> Nothing specifically to do with him, it's just that that's where the Red Arrows will be doing an air display.
[08:16:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Unveils its New Supercomputer (5th Most Powerful in the World) to Train Self-Driving AI - https://sylnt.us
[08:55:58] <FatPhil> was gonna make a joke - will do it on the thread...
[09:22:29] <FatPhil> oh, story was missing a dept - added it as that instead
[10:33:38] <Bytram> FatPhil++ (dept line)
[10:33:38] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 128
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[10:46:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD's FidelityFX Super Resolution Launched and Tested; Nvidia's DLSS Coming to Linux - https://sylnt.us
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[13:27:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Absorption of an Individual Electron Captured on Film - https://sylnt.us
[13:54:30] <inz> FatPhil, thanks for sending us this lovely rain and thunder; finally some heat relief
[13:55:09] <inz> Doggo#1 doesn't share the sentiment on the thunder part though.
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[14:14:54] <Ingar> it's about 15C colder than last week
[14:15:27] <Ingar> I actually had to break out my winter cycling stuff again
[14:21:58] <Runaway1956> Well, Brave browser people have moved into the search engine market
[14:22:04] <Runaway1956> https://brave.com
[14:22:05] <systemd> ^ 03Search | Brave Browser
[14:28:54] <Ingar> "Private search that puts you first"
[14:29:25] <Ingar> by "you" they mean Brave
[14:35:18] <Bytram> Ingar++ that was very brave of them!
[14:35:18] <Bender> karma - ingar: 6
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[15:04:24] <FatPhil> inz: my pleasure
[15:05:19] <FatPhil> we headed out for lunch, and within minutes of arriving the lightning arrived. we knew both our front and back windows were open. fortunately only a flood in the bedroom!
[15:06:18] <FatPhil> the storms had cleared in plenty of time for the Red Arrows display to still be on and worth going to - they were astounding.
[15:06:40] <FatPhil> Put the camera in full spray-and-pray mode ;-)
[15:07:48] <inz> My kind of photography
[15:14:53] * Teckla installed Brave just to play around with IPFS.
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[15:58:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Open-Sources "Attack Surface Analyzer" - https://sylnt.us - git-it-while-it's-hot
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[17:01:07] <Runaway1956> Stupid modem died - luckily I had a replacement at hand
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[17:16:32] <chromas> https://www.healthline.com
[17:16:33] <systemd> ^ 03Why I'm Starting My Infant's Antiracism Education Now
[17:35:04] <Teckla> Research suggests babies are born racist. For example, babies prefer white faces over black faces -- even black babies.
[17:35:50] <chromas> Must be that internalized racism
[17:36:38] <Teckla> It could be that it's simply easier for baby eyes to make out the features of white faces than black faces.
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[18:18:30] <inz> Runaway, aren't you happy it was a stupid modem that died, it'd be much worse if a smart modem died, you'd miss it.
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[18:26:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Early Agreement Reached in Dispute Over Suez Canal Ship - https://sylnt.us - common-ground
[20:15:29] <FatPhil> https://assets.zerohedge.com
[20:16:45] <FatPhil> https://elpais.com
[20:16:46] <systemd> ^ 03El fundador del antivirus McAfee, John McAfee, se suicida en una prisión de Barcelona
[20:40:28] <chromas> https://www.msn.com
[20:40:29] <systemd> ^ 03Seattle scientist digs up deleted coronavirus genetic data, adding fuel to the covid origin debate
[20:41:33] <chromas> I bet John McAffee was killed by Peter Norton
[20:47:28] <Runaway1956> =submit https://kfor.com
[20:47:46] <Runaway1956> Huh - you already read it chromas!
[20:48:00] <inz> FP already posted in spanish
[20:48:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03John McAfee Found Dead in Spanish Jail After Court Approves Extradition to US" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:48:14] <Runaway1956> No habla Espanol!
[20:48:37] * Runaway1956 thinks FP was looking over his shoulder
[20:48:55] <chromas> =yt how to remove mcaffee
[20:48:56] <systemd> https://youtube.com - How To Uninstall McAfee Antivirus (04:25; 10,605,088 views; 👍236,527 👎11,198)
[20:52:24] <Runaway1956> LOL, some joker posted "merge dead mcaffee" - like, we're gonna merge mcafee with norton?
[21:01:32] <pinchy> another CIA op retires?
[21:02:53] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.nytimes.com Your high school doesn't own you!
[21:02:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Supreme Court Rules for Cheerleader Punished for Vulgar Snapchat Message" (41p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:06:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Does the One-Humped Arabian Camel Survive Without Drinking? - https://sylnt.us
[21:13:27] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.alternet.org from the it-turns-out,-the-REAL-fascists-were-the-fascists-all-along! dept.
[21:23:22] <chromas> "How a man stupid enough to pull a stunt like this got into Harvard and Yale makes me question the academic standing of both those esteemed institutions"
[21:23:32] <chromas> Really, that's what made him question it?
[21:29:41] <FatPhil> Holy fucking jesus. Is this the first time I've ever agreed with Uncle Thomas? Well done on volunteering to make it not a 9-0 decision.
[21:31:33] <FatPhil> Agreement + Renege => Punishment. That's how things work. Why did that ever go to SCOTUS?!?!?
[21:34:16] <AzumaHazuki> ?
[21:34:59] <FatPhil> Can you list any other recent SCOTUS decisions that have been 8 vs Thomas?
[21:35:08] <FatPhil> If not, why the confusion?
[21:38:28] <AzumaHazuki> i'm not seeing this one. I see a Nestle suit
[21:39:11] <FatPhil> https://www.nytimes.com
[21:39:12] <systemd> ^ 03Supreme Court Rules for Cheerleader Punished for Vulgar Snapchat Message
[21:41:26] <FatPhil> Maybe I'm just turning into a Victorian dad. As long as I end up with an awesome moustache, I don't care.
[21:46:09] <chromas> What if you could have the moustache without letting schools control the internet?
[21:46:41] <FatPhil> they aren't controlling the internet. Her freedom to shitpost is being upheld. What made you think otherwise/
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[21:47:07] <FatPhil> But, *if* you want to shitpost against us, we deserve the right to not have *you* represent *us*.
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[21:48:35] <chromas> “Because off-campus speech made through social media can be received on campus (and can spread rapidly to countless people),” Justice Thomas wrote, “it often will have a greater proximate tendency to harm the school environment than will an off-campus in-person conversation.”
[21:48:48] <chromas> That means he hate free speech and wants to burn the internet to the ground
[21:49:41] <requerdanos> or possibly that he thinks that if you include the school in your unburned internet post, then the school's in on it by your own hand.
[21:49:42] <FatPhil> nope, it's just burning the stubble, and that's good for the terrain.
[21:58:57] <chromas> Fuck school!
[21:59:09] <chromas> Welp, they banned me from the school. ...but for...different reasons
[22:05:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - John McAfee Found Dead in Prison Following Spanish Court's Approval of Extradition - https://sylnt.us - ______-didn't-kill-himself
[22:18:22] <FatPhil> I've not pulled my photos off my camera yet, but, from brief chimping, some of them look better than the ones here: https://news.err.ee
[22:18:24] <systemd> ^ 03Gallery: Britain's Red Arrows wow Tallinn with Victory Day display
[22:56:08] <Runaway1956> fake noose - Brits can't fly
[22:56:24] <Runaway1956> it's all immigrants in those planes
[23:00:43] <FatPhil> Brits are all immigrants.
[23:56:28] <Runaway1956> https://phys.org
[23:56:29] <systemd> ^ 03Researchers find 3,000-year-old shark attack victim
[23:56:52] <Runaway1956> I think that's a fairly good story, but archeological stories don't get much of a reception with our crowd
[23:57:29] <Runaway1956> The title is pretty cool if you parse it correctly - Dude's 3000 years old, and a shark attack survivor!