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[00:00:00] <Runaway1956> Operator released the brake and let us free fall down to 102 ft before he stopped us
[00:00:29] <Runaway1956> Preacher man who was riding with me turned out to know a lot of cuss words!
[00:00:34] <Bytram> Runaway1956: can't say that I have... YIKES! Did you know that was going to happen?
[00:01:01] <Runaway1956> Yes/no - it was a surprise, but I didn't let it get to me
[00:01:19] <Runaway1956> I assumed the position in the corner, and waited to see what would happen
[00:03:02] <Runaway1956> Reading the comments on your linked video, that tower they are building is 300 meters - little shy of 1000 ft
[00:03:15] <Runaway1956> I don't think I want to go that high
[00:04:08] * Bytram cannot remember if the 300m is final or current height
[00:04:56] <Runaway1956> people get seasick with that kind of swaying in the wind
[00:16:17] <Bytram> Runaway1956: https://www.liebherr.com
[00:17:22] <Bytram> ^^^ I *think* these are the specs on the big crane in the video
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[00:20:29] <Bytram> =blame
[00:20:38] <Bytram> Nope! Not *me*!
[00:21:40] <Runaway1956> That's a monster crane
[00:26:56] <Bytram> I try, and fail, to imagine how the tracks and the turntables -- with up to 3,000 metric tons of load -- can still pivot and tract? How to they keep it lubricated and not have the lube not squirt out some small gap? The pressures must be insane!
[00:28:17] <Bytram> I try, and fail, to imagine how the tracks and the turntables -- with up to 3,000 metric tons of load -- can still pivot and tract How to they keep it lubricated and keep the lube from squirting out some small gap? The pressures must be insane!
[00:28:30] <Bytram> gah!
[00:28:56] <Runaway1956> I don't know, I've never been close to anything that big
[00:29:08] <Runaway1956> maybe it floats on a teflon pad?
[00:29:27] <Runaway1956> They used teflon plates on tractor trailers,
[00:29:38] <Bytram> Beats me!
[00:29:43] <Runaway1956> big problem there was, getting under the trailer often damaged the pad
[00:30:31] <Bytram> Now think of the loads that add up when operating in a wind or, shudder, gusts!
[00:30:55] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[00:31:21] <Bytram> with the load swaying back and forth ... yikes!
[00:47:23] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[00:49:10] <Bytram> Runaway1956: ^^^ crane-mobile and I do NOT mean just a mobile crane!
[00:50:16] <Runaway1956> I want someone to crawl inside and under the machine, highlighting all the working bits
[00:54:42] <Bytram> I suspect that might take quite a while!
[00:56:44] <Runaway1956> Get me close to a big piece of equipment, first thing I do is pop the engine cover, lol
[00:57:32] <Runaway1956> After I crawl through it and get dirty, I'll make my way to the control cabin/booth/whatever
[00:57:47] <Bytram> lol
[00:58:17] <Bytram> biab
[00:58:21] <Runaway1956> I can't operate those things though - depth perception sucks
[00:58:27] <Runaway1956> later
[01:47:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Several Australian Banks Go Off Line - https://sylnt.us - no-balance-or-payments-for-you
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[03:19:03] <mrpg> Wearing makeup made implications toward adultery as well as turning against the church. This sexual promiscuity as it relates to face painting is something that Shakespeare explores in this scene.
[03:20:58] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[03:38:53] <mrpg> The Coq community went through this ... when there was some debate about the need for a code of conduct – confusingly abbreviated a CoC ...
[03:53:04] <mrpg> https://www.theregister.com
[03:53:30] <mrpg> Linux Foundation, IBM, Cisco and others back ‘Inclusive Naming Initiative’ to change nasty tech terms
[03:53:59] <mrpg> nasty in English for USians the rest of the world doesnt care I think.
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[04:17:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - World Bank Slams Bitcoin, Declines to Help El Salvador’s Cryptocurrency Plan - https://sylnt.us - melt-it-all-down
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[05:49:26] <bacterium> the purchase was made some years ago, it belongs to that guy, some "korean crown price" or whatnot, who seems to have in excess of 100M, andrew lee
[05:49:30] <bacterium> mt
[05:49:31] <bacterium> t
[05:49:55] * bacterium blame good drinks at the local saloon
[06:40:58] <FatPhil> carefull - don't bust your cell membrane
[06:46:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Great Dimming' of Betelgeuse Star is Solved - https://sylnt.us - clean-the-lenses
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[07:37:44] <aristarchus> Kalimera, everyone!
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[07:43:48] <FatPhil> kalamari to you too
[07:47:18] <inz> Drive-by greeting
[07:47:45] <FatPhil> buy cryptos! https://raw.githubusercontent.com
[07:50:38] <FatPhil> (was $60 the day before)
[09:06:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What Keeps People from Using Password Managers? - https://sylnt.us - 00aa23e67f100945c87d19e4012f
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[09:19:59] <bacterium> does aristarchus understand how irc works?
[09:21:01] <inz> The idling is weak with this one.
[09:21:19] <FatPhil> he thinks he invented irc 3000 years ago
[09:21:23] <requerdanos> IRC is different things to different people.
[09:21:36] <FatPhil> #weather
[09:21:47] <FatPhil> =weather
[09:21:56] <requerdanos> cloudy, with a chance of no bots
[09:21:56] <FatPhil> ~weather
[09:22:00] <janrinok> we are lacking in bots!
[09:22:35] <FatPhil> too bloody hot, that's my opinion
[09:22:43] <janrinok> ... but that is probably because the bots are upset because somebody reduced their karma on here yesterday....
[09:23:51] <FatPhil> are they trying to counter or reinfoece my point?
[09:24:06] <janrinok> chromas: why don't we run the bots on one of our servers? I'm sure that there is a good reason, but I cannot think of it
[09:24:18] <bacterium> FatPhil: ikr, tomorrow willbe fun: https://forecast.weather.gov
[09:24:19] <FatPhil> bots-- the latter, it seems, modulo spelling
[09:24:19] <Bender> karma - bots: -56
[09:24:19] <systemd> ^ 03Hourly Graphical Forecast for 38.58N 121.49W
[09:24:22] <chromas> MrPlow did run on an sn server
[09:24:57] <chromas> it ran under tmb's account, which he deleted. I copied over the files to my home directory and chowned them but when I run it, it complains it can't read the sqlite file
[09:25:19] <inz> I can agree that it's way too hot, and I'm some 250 km north
[09:25:37] <janrinok> presumably the sqlite file was also chowned to you?
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[09:26:31] <chromas> should've been
[09:26:49] <chromas> I thought it was, at least. I'ven't got a connection open to check now though
[09:26:51] <janrinok> and that still doesn't explain why the other bots aren't on our servers
[09:27:07] <chromas> they're experimental and could have security holes
[09:27:17] <chromas> also my bot has some, uh...bugs
[09:27:27] <chromas> occasionally runs away with all the memory and/or cpu
[09:27:57] <inz> it's building an army
[09:28:06] <janrinok> I'm sure that they cannot provide much loading on the systems, and even with bugs they could still be useful. Bytram will be very upset to lose some of his DOI and formatting bot functions.
[09:28:30] <janrinok> yes, that bug might be a bit of a crippler...
[09:28:40] <chromas> I'm not planning to leave any time soon. You guys are stuck with me forever. Bwahahahaha!!
[09:28:48] * chromas checks above for anvils and pianos
[09:31:15] <janrinok> chromas, I assume that there was the usual level of documentation provided with MrPlow i.e. none
[09:31:37] <chromas> Naturally
[09:31:45] <chromas> Although if I remember right it's all one source file
[09:32:04] <janrinok> what language is it written in - was it one of TMB's rust projects?
[09:32:09] <chromas> it was
[09:32:28] <chromas> it's on his github page so we can run it from scratch. I just wanted to have all the datums with it
[09:32:41] <janrinok> understandable
[09:33:58] <janrinok> just spitballing now - could we create a single bot user for running all the bots, and limit its access to CPU and memory to avoid bugs bringing down any particular system?
[09:34:12] <chromas> like Bender?
[09:34:23] <janrinok> is that what Bender does?
[09:34:31] <chromas> Bender has the ability to spawn multiple Benderbots
[09:35:04] <chromas> It's pretty fancy, but the code it's from has been forked and tweaked many a time over the years. I'm not even sure which version it was
[09:35:06] <janrinok> well, it sounds like a possible solution - I don't know whether it is worth discussing in more detail.
[09:35:34] <janrinok> er, I hesitate to ask, but is there any documentation?
[09:35:41] <systemd> I just need to add all the other bots' functions into my own, then I can take over the world!!!!
[09:35:58] <inz> The code is the documentation
[09:36:03] <janrinok> lol
[09:36:10] <inz> systemd, that's the systemd way
[09:36:31] <chromas> here's some docs https://jsonbot.readthedocs.io
[09:36:32] <systemd> ^ 03Welcome to JSONBOT — JSONBOT 0.91.0 DEVELOPMENT documentation
[09:37:01] <chromas> "...for building bots that talk JSON to each other over XMPP."
[09:37:03] <chromas> Jesus dude
[09:37:07] <chromas> Just...Jesus
[09:39:49] <janrinok> all the url links are 404ing for me
[09:39:58] <chromas> yeah google code = ded
[09:40:54] <janrinok> the documentation seems to be complete though... just cannot download the code
[09:41:08] <chromas> =g jsonbot download
[09:41:08] <systemd> https://pypi.org - jsb.recipes.jsonbot · PyPI
[09:41:59] <chromas> could also replace Bender with some other mega bot like supybot. or just let it age out with nobody working on it like rehash :D
[09:55:20] <janrinok> I've found a 2017/18 version of jsonbot which I downloaded from SN a long time back - I think that it is the version that we were using.
[09:56:03] <chromas> that's pretty new
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[10:32:21] <ingar> got my first shot: keys do not stick to my body, not radiating G5 as far as I can see, and my balls didn't fall off
[10:33:26] <ingar> and IPv6 from my VPS to soylent is still fucked
[10:41:37] <chromas> =yt bieber 6g fever
[10:41:38] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Bieber 6G Fever (01:22; 11,869 views; 👍176 👎5)
[10:42:43] <ingar> I'd rather watch Rick Astley
[10:44:25] <ingar> a little bit of muscle ache in my arm, feels a bit like a tetanus shot
[11:07:53] <Bytram> chromas: Good morning; Thanks for resurrecting systemd!
[11:08:26] <Bytram> quick question? How to I turn on story title display?
[11:12:17] <chromas> =enable tites
[11:12:25] <chromas> =enable titles
[11:12:25] <systemd> k
[11:12:29] <chromas> ah, that's it
[11:15:36] <Bytram> chromas++ TYVM!
[11:15:36] <Bender> karma - chromas: 362
[11:18:18] <Bytram> ingar: Hi! How long since your shot? And, if you don't mind my asking, which one? (Usually, takes ~ half a day for side-effects to start kicking it.)
[11:18:51] <ingar> Pfizer, I got it 1h30min ago
[11:19:23] <ingar> Bytram: the biggest concern was an alergic reaction, that didn't happen, so far so good
[11:19:55] <ingar> Bytram: and yeah, if there's any fallout I'll proabely feel it tomorrow
[11:20:05] <ingar> a coworker if mine felt lousy for a day after Pfizer
[11:20:08] <ingar> *of mine
[11:20:36] <ingar> from what I've heard, most people react more on the second Pfizer shot
[11:26:11] <t3> I heard that if you react strongly to the first, it means you already had covid, no idea if it's true tho
[11:28:40] <ingar> tbh, I'd be very amazed if I hadn't been in contact with the virus
[11:29:10] <Bytram> t3: Not that I heard -- there's a whole cascade of cells that get involved in the process of building protection. Some people are more sensitive to the initial (perceived) attack on their system -- react more vigorously.
[11:29:20] <ingar> didn't work from home, two coworkers had COVID, others tested positive
[11:30:34] <janrinok> I'm due my second Pfizer in 8 days time
[11:31:11] <ingar> janrinok: did you have any side effects from the first shot ?
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[11:32:14] <Bytram> to my knowledge, no prior covid for me, but J&J (one-and-done) hit me pretty hard for 2+ days... starting about 12 hrs after jab. Achy, tired, etc.
[11:32:15] <janrinok> I had very minor muscle ache beginning about 1 hour after the injection which last for about 48 hours. Nothing that would stop me from doing anything but enough to be aware that I had had the injection. I have had far worse in the past
[11:32:58] <janrinok> No other symptoms
[11:33:11] <Bytram> Ingar: I hope you have a good response to your shot!
[11:33:30] <Bytram> janrinok: good luck!
[11:33:42] <Bytram> gtg; phone
[11:33:49] <Ingar> Bytram: so far, it seems on line with janrinok's experience. tbh, I'm not worried
[11:34:21] <janrinok> thx, but I'm not concerned. If I have anything unexpected or severe I will certainly let you know
[11:46:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Newly Discovered Giant Rhino Fossil Defies the Imagination - https://sylnt.us - Megafauna-on-SoylentNews
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[13:38:57] <FatPhil> me spins the globe and finds that there's a part of the world where it's past 5
[13:39:29] <Bytram> It's 5 AM *somewhere* !!
[13:40:33] <FatPhil> wondering how polite it is to visit a friends place with my work laptop, and possibly do a little bit of work while there.
[13:44:54] <Runaway1956> Bring your laptop over FatPhil - I'll try to hack it while you work. ;^)
[13:46:27] * Runaway1956 browses fatphil's porn to see what his fetishes are
[13:48:03] <Runaway1956> Is that Kim Kardashian's ass photoshopped onto a donkey?
[14:01:14] <Ingar> that would be an insult to the donkey
[14:01:36] <janrinok> what would the difference be from real life?
[14:03:16] <Ingar> https://media1.popsugar-assets.com!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/10/40/3/192/1922398/abbe1fbdf93d2c4f_5c6ef6d68d7411e1abb01231381b65e3_7/i/Kim-Kardashian-made-friends-plastic-giraffe.jpeg
[14:04:21] <Ingar> real life is far more funny than anything I'd come up with
[14:07:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Toxic "Forever Chemicals" Widespread in Top Makeup Brands, Study Finds - https://sylnt.us - A-woman’s-face-with-nature’s-own-hand-painted
[15:23:20] <FatPhil> now drinking a beer from Rwanda!
[15:24:26] <janrinok> I've got no idea how you even find these beers - I have enough problems find some European beers here in France.
[15:24:46] <janrinok> s/find some/finding some/
[15:24:46] <SedBot> <janrinok> I've got no idea how you even find these beers - I have enough problems finding some European beers here in France.
[15:42:24] <FatPhil> Palestinian beer also ticked - was gooood!
[15:42:32] <FatPhil> now on Costa Rica
[15:52:46] <FatPhil> and now turkish north cyprus, to piss off any greeks onchan
[15:53:14] <FatPhil> as you can probaby tell, the theme of the tasting this evening is weird countries.
[15:53:31] <FatPhil> none were from shops, they were traded for.
[16:01:59] <FatPhil> achievement "guatemalan beer drunk" unlocked
[16:02:19] <FatPhil> on to Eritrea!
[16:02:31] <janrinok> are these small bottles, very small tasters - or half a litre at a time?
[16:07:00] <FatPhil> small bottles, and shared amongst several people, so very small samples each
[16:09:01] <FatPhil> a bigger than usual group today, because of the "high value" these rarities command
[16:09:38] <janrinok> well, I wish I was there enjoying them with you.
[16:45:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Russian Threats in the 2000s Turned Estonia into the Go-To Expert on Cyber Defense - https://sylnt.us - hacking-is-good
[16:51:26] <FatPhil> "enjoying" - hahaahah, I just fell of the sofa.
[16:51:38] <FatPhil> some of these are world class horrors!
[16:51:46] <FatPhil> we do it for the tick
[16:52:08] <FatPhil> having sais that, the palestinian one was great
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[17:07:30] <FatPhil> we're now debating whether this one comed from vietnam or cambodia - it's branded in Japanese, and rather mysterious.
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[17:26:44] <lalbornoz> YOUR SHIT CHATS MAKE ME SO MAD I PUNCH HOLES IN MY WALL!!! THATS Y I MOVED 2 IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #MIDIPIX https://i.imgur.com
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[17:33:48] <janrinok> well, I'm glad he's moved...
[17:36:59] <t3> https://www.whonix.org they should call it Security Theater OS
[17:37:01] <systemd> ^ 03Whonix - Software That Can Anonymize Everything You Do Online
[18:00:02] <fab23> I have seen this bot now from different IPs in other networks as well, a gline blocking ~lalbornoz@* may help.
[18:10:32] <FatPhil> lolboners
[18:38:01] <Teckla> [Jesus at Last Supper]
[18:38:01] <Teckla> <breaks bread> "This is my body."
[18:38:01] <Teckla> <pours wine> "This is my blood."
[18:38:01] <Teckla> <opens jar of mayo>
[18:38:02] <Teckla> Judas: "I'm going to stop you right there."
[18:55:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Surprising Spider Hair Discovery May Inspire Stronger Adhesives - https://sylnt.us - sticky-incy-wincy
[21:07:47] <chromas> Teckla: is that what they teach you at the semenary?
[21:08:42] <Teckla> chromas: *Miracle* Whip! It's right there in the name!
[21:13:11] <chromas> isn't miracle whip sweet? that's a sin right there!
[21:13:14] * chromas dings
[21:23:12] <t3> sacramental mayo? are the crackers going to be replaced with potatoes?
[21:26:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Windows 11 Look Inspired by KDE Plasma and GNOME? - https://sylnt.us - good-artists-copy-great-artists-infringe-design-patents
[21:37:15] <Teckla> chromas: :)
[21:37:49] <Teckla> They're going to replace white people with potatoes?
[21:42:00] <chromas> not just white people. have you seen redskin potatoes?
[21:42:22] <chromas> that's the real reason for the sports team name change—it's offensive to the irish
[21:46:53] * Teckla chuckles