#soylent | Logs for 2021-06-18
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[21:46:53] * Teckla chuckles
[21:42:22] <chromas> that's the real reason for the sports team name change—it's offensive to the irish
[21:42:00] <chromas> not just white people. have you seen redskin potatoes?
[21:37:49] <Teckla> They're going to replace white people with potatoes?
[21:37:15] <Teckla> chromas: :)
[21:26:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Windows 11 Look Inspired by KDE Plasma and GNOME? - https://sylnt.us - good-artists-copy-great-artists-infringe-design-patents
[21:23:12] <t3> sacramental mayo? are the crackers going to be replaced with potatoes?
[21:13:14] * chromas dings
[21:13:11] <chromas> isn't miracle whip sweet? that's a sin right there!
[21:08:42] <Teckla> chromas: *Miracle* Whip! It's right there in the name!
[21:07:47] <chromas> Teckla: is that what they teach you at the semenary?
[18:55:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Surprising Spider Hair Discovery May Inspire Stronger Adhesives - https://sylnt.us - sticky-incy-wincy
[18:38:02] <Teckla> Judas: "I'm going to stop you right there."
[18:38:01] <Teckla> <opens jar of mayo>
[18:38:01] <Teckla> <pours wine> "This is my blood."
[18:38:01] <Teckla> <breaks bread> "This is my body."
[18:38:01] <Teckla> [Jesus at Last Supper]
[18:10:32] <FatPhil> lolboners
[18:00:02] <fab23> I have seen this bot now from different IPs in other networks as well, a gline blocking ~lalbornoz@* may help.
[17:37:01] <systemd> ^ 03Whonix - Software That Can Anonymize Everything You Do Online
[17:36:59] <t3> https://www.whonix.org they should call it Security Theater OS
[17:33:48] <janrinok> well, I'm glad he's moved...
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[17:26:44] <lalbornoz> YOUR SHIT CHATS MAKE ME SO MAD I PUNCH HOLES IN MY WALL!!! THATS Y I MOVED 2 IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #MIDIPIX https://i.imgur.com
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[17:07:30] <FatPhil> we're now debating whether this one comed from vietnam or cambodia - it's branded in Japanese, and rather mysterious.
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[16:52:08] <FatPhil> having sais that, the palestinian one was great
[16:51:46] <FatPhil> we do it for the tick
[16:51:38] <FatPhil> some of these are world class horrors!
[16:51:26] <FatPhil> "enjoying" - hahaahah, I just fell of the sofa.
[16:45:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Russian Threats in the 2000s Turned Estonia into the Go-To Expert on Cyber Defense - https://sylnt.us - hacking-is-good
[16:09:38] <janrinok> well, I wish I was there enjoying them with you.
[16:09:01] <FatPhil> a bigger than usual group today, because of the "high value" these rarities command
[16:07:00] <FatPhil> small bottles, and shared amongst several people, so very small samples each
[16:02:31] <janrinok> are these small bottles, very small tasters - or half a litre at a time?
[16:02:19] <FatPhil> on to Eritrea!
[16:01:59] <FatPhil> achievement "guatemalan beer drunk" unlocked
[15:53:31] <FatPhil> none were from shops, they were traded for.
[15:53:14] <FatPhil> as you can probaby tell, the theme of the tasting this evening is weird countries.
[15:52:46] <FatPhil> and now turkish north cyprus, to piss off any greeks onchan
[15:42:32] <FatPhil> now on Costa Rica
[15:42:24] <FatPhil> Palestinian beer also ticked - was gooood!
[15:24:46] <SedBot> <janrinok> I've got no idea how you even find these beers - I have enough problems finding some European beers here in France.
[15:24:46] <janrinok> s/find some/finding some/
[15:24:26] <janrinok> I've got no idea how you even find these beers - I have enough problems find some European beers here in France.
[15:23:20] <FatPhil> now drinking a beer from Rwanda!
[14:07:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Toxic "Forever Chemicals" Widespread in Top Makeup Brands, Study Finds - https://sylnt.us - A-woman’s-face-with-nature’s-own-hand-painted
[14:04:21] <Ingar> real life is far more funny than anything I'd come up with
[14:03:16] <Ingar> https://media1.popsugar-assets.com!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/10/40/3/192/1922398/abbe1fbdf93d2c4f_5c6ef6d68d7411e1abb01231381b65e3_7/i/Kim-Kardashian-made-friends-plastic-giraffe.jpeg
[14:01:36] <janrinok> what would the difference be from real life?
[14:01:14] <Ingar> that would be an insult to the donkey
[13:48:03] <Runaway1956> Is that Kim Kardashian's ass photoshopped onto a donkey?
[13:46:27] * Runaway1956 browses fatphil's porn to see what his fetishes are
[13:44:54] <Runaway1956> Bring your laptop over FatPhil - I'll try to hack it while you work. ;^)
[13:40:33] <FatPhil> wondering how polite it is to visit a friends place with my work laptop, and possibly do a little bit of work while there.
[13:39:29] <Bytram> It's 5 AM *somewhere* !!
[13:38:57] <FatPhil> me spins the globe and finds that there's a part of the world where it's past 5
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[11:46:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Newly Discovered Giant Rhino Fossil Defies the Imagination - https://sylnt.us - Megafauna-on-SoylentNews
[11:34:21] <janrinok> thx, but I'm not concerned. If I have anything unexpected or severe I will certainly let you know
[11:33:49] <Ingar> Bytram: so far, it seems on line with janrinok's experience. tbh, I'm not worried
[11:33:42] <Bytram> gtg; phone
[11:33:30] <Bytram> janrinok: good luck!
[11:33:11] <Bytram> Ingar: I hope you have a good response to your shot!
[11:32:58] <janrinok> No other symptoms
[11:32:15] <janrinok> I had very minor muscle ache beginning about 1 hour after the injection which last for about 48 hours. Nothing that would stop me from doing anything but enough to be aware that I had had the injection. I have had far worse in the past
[11:32:14] <Bytram> to my knowledge, no prior covid for me, but J&J (one-and-done) hit me pretty hard for 2+ days... starting about 12 hrs after jab. Achy, tired, etc.
[11:31:54] ingar is now known as Ingar
[11:31:11] <ingar> janrinok: did you have any side effects from the first shot ?
[11:30:34] <janrinok> I'm due my second Pfizer in 8 days time
[11:29:20] <ingar> didn't work from home, two coworkers had COVID, others tested positive
[11:29:10] <Bytram> t3: Not that I heard -- there's a whole cascade of cells that get involved in the process of building protection. Some people are more sensitive to the initial (perceived) attack on their system -- react more vigorously.
[11:28:40] <ingar> tbh, I'd be very amazed if I hadn't been in contact with the virus
[11:26:11] <t3> I heard that if you react strongly to the first, it means you already had covid, no idea if it's true tho
[11:20:36] <ingar> from what I've heard, most people react more on the second Pfizer shot
[11:20:08] <ingar> *of mine
[11:20:05] <ingar> a coworker if mine felt lousy for a day after Pfizer
[11:19:55] <ingar> Bytram: and yeah, if there's any fallout I'll proabely feel it tomorrow
[11:19:23] <ingar> Bytram: the biggest concern was an alergic reaction, that didn't happen, so far so good
[11:18:51] <ingar> Pfizer, I got it 1h30min ago
[11:18:18] <Bytram> ingar: Hi! How long since your shot? And, if you don't mind my asking, which one? (Usually, takes ~ half a day for side-effects to start kicking it.)
[11:15:36] <Bender> karma - chromas: 362
[11:15:36] <Bytram> chromas++ TYVM!
[11:12:29] <chromas> ah, that's it
[11:12:25] <systemd> k
[11:12:25] <chromas> =enable titles
[11:12:17] <chromas> =enable tites
[11:08:26] <Bytram> quick question? How to I turn on story title display?
[11:07:53] <Bytram> chromas: Good morning; Thanks for resurrecting systemd!
[10:44:25] <ingar> a little bit of muscle ache in my arm, feels a bit like a tetanus shot
[10:42:43] <ingar> I'd rather watch Rick Astley
[10:41:38] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Bieber 6G Fever (01:22; 11,869 views; 👍176 👎5)
[10:41:37] <chromas> =yt bieber 6g fever
[10:33:26] <ingar> and IPv6 from my VPS to soylent is still fucked
[10:32:21] <ingar> got my first shot: keys do not stick to my body, not radiating G5 as far as I can see, and my balls didn't fall off
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[09:56:03] <chromas> that's pretty new
[09:55:20] <janrinok> I've found a 2017/18 version of jsonbot which I downloaded from SN a long time back - I think that it is the version that we were using.
[09:41:59] <chromas> could also replace Bender with some other mega bot like supybot. or just let it age out with nobody working on it like rehash :D
[09:41:08] <systemd> https://pypi.org - jsb.recipes.jsonbot · PyPI
[09:41:08] <chromas> =g jsonbot download
[09:40:54] <janrinok> the documentation seems to be complete though... just cannot download the code
[09:39:58] <chromas> yeah google code = ded
[09:39:49] <janrinok> all the url links are 404ing for me
[09:37:07] <chromas> Just...Jesus
[09:37:03] <chromas> Jesus dude
[09:37:01] <chromas> "...for building bots that talk JSON to each other over XMPP."
[09:36:32] <systemd> ^ 03Welcome to JSONBOT — JSONBOT 0.91.0 DEVELOPMENT documentation
[09:36:31] <chromas> here's some docs https://jsonbot.readthedocs.io
[09:36:10] <inz> systemd, that's the systemd way
[09:36:03] <janrinok> lol
[09:35:58] <inz> The code is the documentation
[09:35:41] <systemd> I just need to add all the other bots' functions into my own, then I can take over the world!!!!
[09:35:34] <janrinok> er, I hesitate to ask, but is there any documentation?
[09:35:06] <janrinok> well, it sounds like a possible solution - I don't know whether it is worth discussing in more detail.
[09:35:04] <chromas> It's pretty fancy, but the code it's from has been forked and tweaked many a time over the years. I'm not even sure which version it was
[09:34:31] <chromas> Bender has the ability to spawn multiple Benderbots
[09:34:23] <janrinok> is that what Bender does?
[09:34:12] <chromas> like Bender?
[09:33:58] <janrinok> just spitballing now - could we create a single bot user for running all the bots, and limit its access to CPU and memory to avoid bugs bringing down any particular system?
[09:32:41] <janrinok> understandable
[09:32:28] <chromas> it's on his github page so we can run it from scratch. I just wanted to have all the datums with it
[09:32:09] <chromas> it was
[09:32:04] <janrinok> what language is it written in - was it one of TMB's rust projects?
[09:31:45] <chromas> Although if I remember right it's all one source file
[09:31:37] <chromas> Naturally
[09:31:15] <janrinok> chromas, I assume that there was the usual level of documentation provided with MrPlow i.e. none
[09:28:48] * chromas checks above for anvils and pianos
[09:28:40] <chromas> I'm not planning to leave any time soon. You guys are stuck with me forever. Bwahahahaha!!
[09:28:30] <janrinok> yes, that bug might be a bit of a crippler...
[09:28:06] <janrinok> I'm sure that they cannot provide much loading on the systems, and even with bugs they could still be useful. Bytram will be very upset to lose some of his DOI and formatting bot functions.
[09:27:57] <inz> it's building an army
[09:27:27] <chromas> occasionally runs away with all the memory and/or cpu
[09:27:17] <chromas> also my bot has some, uh...bugs
[09:27:07] <chromas> they're experimental and could have security holes
[09:26:51] <janrinok> and that still doesn't explain why the other bots aren't on our servers
[09:26:49] <chromas> I thought it was, at least. I'ven't got a connection open to check now though
[09:26:31] <chromas> should've been
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[09:25:37] <janrinok> presumably the sqlite file was also chowned to you?
[09:25:19] <inz> I can agree that it's way too hot, and I'm some 250 km north
[09:24:57] <chromas> it ran under tmb's account, which he deleted. I copied over the files to my home directory and chowned them but when I run it, it complains it can't read the sqlite file
[09:24:22] <chromas> MrPlow did run on an sn server
[09:24:19] <systemd> ^ 03Hourly Graphical Forecast for 38.58N 121.49W
[09:24:19] <Bender> karma - bots: -56
[09:24:19] <FatPhil> bots-- the latter, it seems, modulo spelling
[09:24:18] <bacterium> FatPhil: ikr, tomorrow willbe fun: https://forecast.weather.gov
[09:24:06] <janrinok> chromas: why don't we run the bots on one of our servers? I'm sure that there is a good reason, but I cannot think of it
[09:23:51] <FatPhil> are they trying to counter or reinfoece my point?
[09:22:43] <janrinok> ... but that is probably because the bots are upset because somebody reduced their karma on here yesterday....
[09:22:35] <FatPhil> too bloody hot, that's my opinion
[09:22:00] <janrinok> we are lacking in bots!
[09:21:56] <FatPhil> ~weather
[09:21:56] <requerdanos> cloudy, with a chance of no bots
[09:21:47] <FatPhil> =weather
[09:21:36] <FatPhil> #weather
[09:21:23] <requerdanos> IRC is different things to different people.
[09:21:19] <FatPhil> he thinks he invented irc 3000 years ago
[09:21:01] <inz> The idling is weak with this one.
[09:19:59] <bacterium> does aristarchus understand how irc works?
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[09:06:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What Keeps People from Using Password Managers? - https://sylnt.us - 00aa23e67f100945c87d19e4012f
[07:50:38] <FatPhil> (was $60 the day before)
[07:47:45] <FatPhil> buy cryptos! https://raw.githubusercontent.com
[07:47:18] <inz> Drive-by greeting
[07:43:48] <FatPhil> kalamari to you too
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[07:37:44] <aristarchus> Kalimera, everyone!
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[06:46:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Great Dimming' of Betelgeuse Star is Solved - https://sylnt.us - clean-the-lenses
[06:40:58] <FatPhil> carefull - don't bust your cell membrane
[05:49:55] * bacterium blame good drinks at the local saloon
[05:49:31] <bacterium> t
[05:49:30] <bacterium> mt
[05:49:26] <bacterium> the purchase was made some years ago, it belongs to that guy, some "korean crown price" or whatnot, who seems to have in excess of 100M, andrew lee
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[03:53:59] <mrpg> nasty in English for USians the rest of the world doesnt care I think.
[03:53:30] <mrpg> Linux Foundation, IBM, Cisco and others back ‘Inclusive Naming Initiative’ to change nasty tech terms
[03:53:04] <mrpg> https://www.theregister.com
[03:38:53] <mrpg> The Coq community went through this ... when there was some debate about the need for a code of conduct – confusingly abbreviated a CoC ...
[03:20:58] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[03:19:03] <mrpg> Wearing makeup made implications toward adultery as well as turning against the church. This sexual promiscuity as it relates to face painting is something that Shakespeare explores in this scene.
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[01:47:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Several Australian Banks Go Off Line - https://sylnt.us - no-balance-or-payments-for-you
[00:58:27] <Runaway1956> later
[00:58:21] <Runaway1956> I can't operate those things though - depth perception sucks
[00:58:17] <Bytram> biab
[00:57:47] <Bytram> lol
[00:57:32] <Runaway1956> After I crawl through it and get dirty, I'll make my way to the control cabin/booth/whatever
[00:56:44] <Runaway1956> Get me close to a big piece of equipment, first thing I do is pop the engine cover, lol
[00:54:42] <Bytram> I suspect that might take quite a while!
[00:50:16] <Runaway1956> I want someone to crawl inside and under the machine, highlighting all the working bits
[00:49:10] <Bytram> Runaway1956: ^^^ crane-mobile and I do NOT mean just a mobile crane!
[00:47:23] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[00:31:21] <Bytram> with the load swaying back and forth ... yikes!
[00:30:55] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[00:30:31] <Bytram> Now think of the loads that add up when operating in a wind or, shudder, gusts!
[00:29:43] <Runaway1956> big problem there was, getting under the trailer often damaged the pad
[00:29:38] <Bytram> Beats me!
[00:29:27] <Runaway1956> They used teflon plates on tractor trailers,
[00:29:08] <Runaway1956> maybe it floats on a teflon pad?
[00:28:56] <Runaway1956> I don't know, I've never been close to anything that big
[00:28:30] <Bytram> gah!
[00:28:17] <Bytram> I try, and fail, to imagine how the tracks and the turntables -- with up to 3,000 metric tons of load -- can still pivot and tract How to they keep it lubricated and keep the lube from squirting out some small gap? The pressures must be insane!
[00:26:56] <Bytram> I try, and fail, to imagine how the tracks and the turntables -- with up to 3,000 metric tons of load -- can still pivot and tract? How to they keep it lubricated and not have the lube not squirt out some small gap? The pressures must be insane!
[00:21:40] <Runaway1956> That's a monster crane
[00:20:38] <Bytram> Nope! Not *me*!
[00:20:29] <Bytram> =blame
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[00:17:22] <Bytram> ^^^ I *think* these are the specs on the big crane in the video
[00:16:17] <Bytram> Runaway1956: https://www.liebherr.com
[00:04:56] <Runaway1956> people get seasick with that kind of swaying in the wind
[00:04:08] * Bytram cannot remember if the 300m is final or current height
[00:03:15] <Runaway1956> I don't think I want to go that high
[00:03:02] <Runaway1956> Reading the comments on your linked video, that tower they are building is 300 meters - little shy of 1000 ft
[00:01:19] <Runaway1956> I assumed the position in the corner, and waited to see what would happen
[00:01:01] <Runaway1956> Yes/no - it was a surprise, but I didn't let it get to me
[00:00:34] <Bytram> Runaway1956: can't say that I have... YIKES! Did you know that was going to happen?
[00:00:29] <Runaway1956> Preacher man who was riding with me turned out to know a lot of cuss words!
[00:00:00] <Runaway1956> Operator released the brake and let us free fall down to 102 ft before he stopped us