#soylent | Logs for 2021-06-14

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[00:01:40] <raxas> rumor goes, it is new version of creation engine so possibly moddable by crowds
[00:03:29] <Bytram> Ewwwww! https://www.cnn.com
[00:03:32] <systemd> ^ 03Restaurant tests out pizza topped with cicadas
[00:12:20] <raxas> I would be concerned those cicadas may be poisoned by herbicides, if not by pesticides
[00:13:20] <raxas> bon appetite!
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[00:36:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Site Maintenance -- Server Migrations, Possible Storage Upgrade, Cert Updates, and More! [Updates 1] - https://sylnt.us
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[01:16:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Far Back are Your First Memories? You May Have Been Younger Than You Think - https://sylnt.us - partial-recall
[01:49:00] <Bytram> .
[01:49:01] <Bytram> .
[01:49:02] <Bytram> https://cloud.linode.com
[01:49:03] <systemd> ^ 03Linode Manager
[01:49:03] <Bytram> .
[01:49:03] <Bytram> .
[01:50:23] <Bytram> we have requested an early start to the migration of fluorine. The server will be shutdown, migrated to the new server, and then restarted. It will be unavailable during this time.
[01:50:30] <Bytram> ^^^
[01:50:52] <mrpg> ETA?
[01:53:14] <Bytram> If all goes well, just a few minutes
[01:54:23] <mrpg> https://www.youtube.com
[01:54:25] <systemd> ^ 03"What is it?" jokes
[02:00:11] <Bytram> Looks like we are back?!
[02:37:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Site Maintenance -- Server Migrations, Possible Storage Upgrade, Cert Updates, and More! [Updates 2] - https://sylnt.us || NASA Selects New Science Investigations for Future Moon Deliveries - https://sylnt.us - no-cheese-graters?
[02:41:04] <mrpg> the link to the next story, how come? it is not live yet.
[02:42:58] <mrpg> blame the migration and the inmigrants. Don't worry I'm an inmigrant I can say that.
[02:50:25] <mrpg> =g wound
[02:50:26] <systemd> https://www.merriam-webster.com - Wound | Definition of Wound by Merriam-Webster
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[04:54:28] <aristarchus> Hmm. failed attempts. Loosers.
[05:14:14] <aristarchus> I understand the Runaway1957 is now banned from IRC, since he is shedding vax cooties, and no longer safe for polite company?
[05:16:45] <FatPhil> is that what he told you during the tea party?
[05:20:28] <chromas> no is was a pee, tardy
[05:21:07] <aristarchus> He asked, "one lump, or two?" So I gave him three.
[05:26:25] <aristarchus> Interesting, now, that we have judge submissions via IRC by the content of the sub, rather than the color of the submitter, and still Runaway submissions are clearly identifiable.
[05:31:48] <aristarchus> And, of course, I am slightly miffed that Bytram did not acknowledge me, since I have the largest number of rejected submissions, out of 1720 so far.
[05:45:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China's Tech Workers Pushed to Limits by Surveillance Software - https://sylnt.us - taiwan-is-a...
[06:22:09] <aristarchus> Ok, I am out of here. Here is to a better SoylentNews in the future.
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[06:52:47] <FatPhil> shining wit
[07:07:49] <janrinok> Runaway1956, surprising as it may seem, I actually have a friend who works in the Royal Household.
[09:14:36] <Runaway1956> That's cool janrinock -
[09:15:27] <Runaway1956> I've known people of similar age who were really sharp, so I was just curious.
[09:15:41] <Runaway1956> Shame our current pres isn't as sharp.
[09:16:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD Applies for Another Heterogeneous Processor Patent - https://sylnt.us - bigGLE-computing
[09:18:32] <Runaway1956> Poor Aristarchus doesn't understand that Runaway will always be identifiable, or that Aristarchus will always be mediocre
[09:57:32] <raxas> janrinok: so what's moral position of your royalist friend on Julian Assange still kept indepth of queen's personal dungeon facility (HMPB)?
[10:05:31] <janrinok> dunno, we haven't discussed it.
[10:06:56] <janrinok> ... and further more I also served in the UK Armed Forces, we swear our allegiance to HM the Queen. Am I also to be personally responsible for Assange's detention?
[10:14:37] <raxas> that's on your conscience. for me, the situation makes freedom and liberalism as attractive as a long time chewed chewing gum
[10:15:06] <raxas> empty meanings
[10:22:35] <FatPhil> raxas: Her Majesty's Prison Service is no more her majesty's than Her Majesty's Government is.
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[10:34:48] * Runaway1956 reminds raxas that a member of the armed forces is just a member - unless he happens to be the Supreme Commander (or equivalent)
[10:35:38] <Runaway1956> and in more-or-less democratic societies, even the Supreme Commander answers to a civilian and/or a monarch
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[10:50:54] <raxas> if that one queen of theirs was a good human, assange would be free by now
[11:02:31] <raxas> "humanrightism is a moral kitsch" -- our today's mainstream rant about havlist pseudoliberal ideology of early 90's. I applaud to such description of reality. Havel has his own bust in US Congress for his bootlickering. his grandfather and uncle were Nazi collaborators during WW2 occupation
[11:03:01] <raxas> that's how real life goes
[11:13:16] <raxas> =submit https://www.globalresearch.ca
[11:47:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Roller Skating, Wile E. Coyote-Style - https://sylnt.us - sooooper-genius
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[14:06:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Update: Google Used a New AI to Design Its Next AI Chip - https://sylnt.us
[14:16:39] <Runaway1956> https://www.sott.net
[14:16:40] <systemd> ^ 03'They are all the same to him': Biden confuses Syria and Libya multiple times during G7 speech -- Sott.net
[14:16:56] <Runaway1956> Confused Joe bungles his way through G7
[14:17:27] <Runaway1956> Did anyone catch him stumbling through the open-air diner?
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[14:19:25] <Runaway1956> https://www.independent.co.uk
[14:19:27] <systemd> ^ 03Cambodia deploys new team of rats to sniff out landmines
[14:19:38] <Runaway1956> Move over Old Rats, the New Rats have arrived!
[14:20:06] * Runaway1956 reflects on 4chan's oldfags vs newfags
[14:22:46] <FatPhil> fatfags vs. thinfags
[14:32:44] <Runaway1956> How 'bout plain old fag vs fag? https://maditsmadfunny.fandom.com
[14:32:45] <systemd> ^ 03Spy vs. Spy | Mad Cartoon Network Wiki | Fandom
[14:37:34] <requerdanos> Pretty big differences between Syria and Libya
[14:38:06] <Runaway1956> Not to the uneducated - they are both kinda "mideast"
[14:38:38] <requerdanos> However uneducated, the U.S. President should at least be informally briefed on one or two points of difference...
[14:38:50] <Runaway1956> In view of Ethanol Fueled's absence, I'll add "sand nigger" to the mix
[14:40:06] <Runaway1956> Senile Joe is Senile - I can't say he was ever exceptionally bright, but whatever he had 20 years ago has been lost
[14:41:51] <Runaway1956> https://s.ecrater.com
[14:47:37] <Runaway1956> https://www.theguardian.com
[14:47:38] <systemd> ^ 03In The Heights: Hollywood overlooks Latinx talent – can Lin-Manuel Miranda’s musical change that?
[14:48:02] <Runaway1956> The woke generation still hasn't read the memo: Latinos are offended by that whols LatinX bullshit
[14:48:48] <Runaway1956> s/whols/whole/
[14:48:48] <SedBot> <Runaway1956> The woke generation still hasn't read the memo: Latinos are offended by that whole LatinX bullshit
[14:52:24] <t3> is anyone offended? I just thought it sounded stupid
[14:52:57] <progo> my sense of being offended overloaded and atrophied years ago
[14:52:58] <requerdanos> Honestly, if you reduce the people and culture of multiple middle eastern countries to an unoriginal epithet, you scarcely have room to call someone else senile who makes the same mistake
[14:54:12] <Runaway1956> LOL requerdanos, you seem to have missed the point
[14:54:39] <Runaway1956> =submit https://phys.org At last, a study that makes sense!
[14:54:43] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pacific Islanders Likely Found Antarctica First: Study" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:55:37] <progo> anyone remember that story with a USA midwest white girl going to the prom in a fancy Chinese dress suit? people rebuked her nationally for "cultural appropriation". SerpentZA, a south african in china, asked a bunch of people what they thought of the story. no one understood why anyone should be offended, and they were happy to see their culture propagated
[14:55:51] <progo> *asked a bunch of people on the street
[14:57:25] <Runaway1956> You have to be woke to understand progo
[14:57:41] <progo> china is definitely not woke
[14:57:55] <Runaway1956> Nor is Russia, or most of the rest of the world
[14:58:14] <Runaway1956> wokeness is just a sign of Euro and US retardedness
[15:05:07] <requerdanos> it's so much more complex than that, but the complexity does not make it a good thing.
[15:10:38] <t3> wokeness is a fox news psyop... the same old political correctness bs + FUD about forcing people to be gay or something
[15:12:32] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.nextbigfuture.com
[15:12:35] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New Water Treatment Technology Could Fix Mars Soil and Earth Soil" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:12:49] <Runaway1956> but, t3 - old ideas have to be made fresh with new terms
[15:13:09] <Runaway1956> no one talks about communism any more, it's been rephrased to socialism
[15:13:21] <requerdanos> here's an old idea, judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin/their woke-group quotient
[15:13:30] <t3> that's because socialism and communism are not the same thing
[15:13:48] <requerdanos> there's enough overlap for imprecise people to use both terms to mean roughly the same thing.
[15:13:51] <Runaway1956> communism is socialim cubed
[15:15:19] <Runaway1956> Brian Wang has fat cheeks and he's half bald, can I un-sub my sub?
[15:15:21] <Runaway1956> lol
[15:21:15] <Runaway1956> https://off-guardian.org
[15:21:18] <systemd> ^ 0310 Covid-Skeptic Memes to Get You Through the Day – Part 5
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[15:45:45] <Runaway1956> HEY! Donald Trump and Boy George share the same birthday!!! Does that explain anything?
[15:46:23] <progo> no
[15:47:32] <requerdanos> explains why they each get more birthday cards around that date
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[16:00:37] <Runaway1956> https://www.theguardian.com
[16:00:38] <systemd> ^ 03Prehistoric giant ‘river boss’ crocodile identified by Queensland scientists
[16:00:55] <Runaway1956> they find one piece of a puzzle, and extrapolate everything from there
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[16:05:59] <progo> Queensland. living "prehistoric giant crocodile"? or fossils?
[16:06:41] <Runaway1956> They found one part of the skull - just the upper rear portion of the skull
[16:07:00] <Runaway1956> It's not like they found half of the spine or anything like that
[16:08:12] <Runaway1956> Sorry, I still didn't answer your question - it's a fossil
[16:08:23] <FatPhil> they found one tooth
[16:08:35] <FatPhil> and they speculate it had 6 legs
[16:08:53] <FatPhil> I've seen the history of paleontology, you can't deny it ever happens.
[16:09:31] <Runaway1956> Must be talking about a different find FatPhil
[16:09:36] <Runaway1956> Jorgo Ristevski, a PhD candidate from UQ’s school of biological sciences, says it’s difficult to estimate the exact size of the crocodile, as researchers only have the back of the skull.
[16:10:04] <Runaway1956> “But it was big,” said Ristevski, who led the research team. “We estimate the skull would have been at least 80cm long and, based on comparisons with living crocs, this indicates a total body length of around seven metres.”
[16:10:06] <FatPhil> I've read backscroll of ~1 line
[16:10:08] <requerdanos> I daresay it would be difficult to estimate much at all based on such a slight sample.
[16:10:21] <FatPhil> we had our AGM today at the brewpub.
[16:10:39] <FatPhil> predictable behaviour ensued
[16:10:56] * Runaway1956 hates predictability
[16:17:18] <Runaway1956> https://www.oann.com
[16:17:19] <systemd> ^ 03Average age of U.S. vehicles hit record 12.1 years in 2020-IHS Markit
[16:17:38] * Runaway1956 remembers when only small percentage of vehicles reached 10 years old
[16:18:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD RDNA 2-Powered Navi 23 GPU From 2021 Tesla Model S - https://sylnt.us - waiting-for-the-first-crash-caused-by-online-gaming
[16:18:38] <Runaway1956> vehicles in my area rusted out before they were 7 - most of rest of country, engines or trans died by age 10
[16:44:03] <FatPhil> no zeibart?
[16:44:38] <Runaway1956> zeibart was introduced around my freshman year of high school -
[16:44:56] <Runaway1956> undercoating wasn't unheard of before then, but it was expensive, and rare
[16:49:49] <Runaway1956> https://www.addictivetips.com
[16:49:51] <systemd> ^ 03How To Install Otter Browser On Linux
[16:50:09] <Runaway1956> Got nothing going, think I'll build it, see if I like it
[16:50:55] <FatPhil> that was the opera clone thing mentioned a few days back?
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[16:57:39] <Runaway1956> Yeah, it is
[16:57:55] <Runaway1956> dependencies, OpenSSL 1.0 (1.1 will not work)
[16:58:13] <Runaway1956> So, what is a guy supposed to do? Uninstall 1.1 and install 1.0?
[16:58:28] <Runaway1956> That would probably lead to dependency hell elsewhere
[17:03:12] <t3> i think that's only for the appimage version, not a hard dependency
[17:04:58] <janrinok> and it falls at the first hurdle : could not find Qt5MultimediaConfig.cmake
[17:05:20] <janrinok> all dependencies installed as per instructions
[17:10:15] <janrinok> Runaway1956, let me know if you find the same problem, or any different problems for that matter
[17:11:07] <janrinok> moving it to the back burner - I've got more useful things to do
[17:12:33] <Runaway1956> OK
[17:13:39] <Runaway1956> cloning now
[17:17:35] <Runaway1956> same error with Qt5MultimediaConfig.cmake
[17:18:10] <janrinok> what distro are you using?
[17:18:29] <janrinok> I'm using ubuntu 20.04
[17:18:47] <requerdanos> looks like they have weekly binaries for what it's worth
[17:18:48] <Runaway1956> installing qt5multimedia now
[17:19:12] <Runaway1956> Linux mx 5.10.0-17.1-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix 5.10-25~mx19+1 (2021-02-22) x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:19:24] <janrinok> I did that but it didn't help
[17:19:51] <Runaway1956> I'll probably fail again then
[17:20:20] <janrinok> who knows, it might just be something that my distro is missing....
[17:22:18] <Runaway1956> I looked at "installed files" for all those qt multimedia dependencies - none of them contains a .cmake file
[17:23:57] <janrinok> there are some cmakes in the cloned material but not with that name, so that didn't help much either. Thanks for confirming my findings, I'll wait until it is ready for the user before I try again.
[17:24:18] <Runaway1956> ditto here I think
[17:31:31] <requerdanos> Just want to state for the record that the binaries all seem to be for Windows
[17:31:45] <Runaway1956> was told on #otter-browser to install qtmultimedia5-dev
[17:47:08] <Runaway1956> got past that error, now I need libqt5qml5 dev package
[17:47:39] <janrinok> yep, I found exactly the same thing.
[17:48:08] <janrinok> I have all sources in my repo but none that look as though they match that
[17:53:47] <t3> did you look at the arch aur pkgfile? that's often a good resource
[17:56:31] <janrinok> why would I search an arch distro if I am installing on ubuntu?
[17:57:49] <Runaway1956> qtbase5-dev
[17:58:10] <Runaway1956> installing that now, it's supposed to take care of that errror
[17:58:24] <janrinok> I already have that installed - it hasn't helped me
[17:58:42] <Runaway1956> hmmm - if things don't work soon, I'm going to give up, lol
[17:58:56] <janrinok> ditto
[18:00:04] <Runaway1956> maybe this - qtdeclarative5-dev
[18:00:12] <requerdanos> to answer the why look at arch question for any given problem, it's because they have probably figured it out and they document things super-well.
[18:01:13] <janrinok> thx for that - useful to know
[18:02:26] <Runaway1956> so the next error is Qt5SvgConfig
[18:02:50] <janrinok> yep
[18:03:20] <janrinok> and it goes on and on...
[18:05:24] <Runaway1956> installed that and I get this:
[18:05:30] <Runaway1956> -- The following OPTIONAL packages have been found:
[18:05:30] <Runaway1956> * Qt5DBus (required version >= 5.6.0)
[18:05:30] <Runaway1956> -- The following REQUIRED packages have been found:
[18:05:30] <Runaway1956> * Qt5Core
[18:05:30] <Runaway1956> * Qt5Gui
[18:05:31] <Runaway1956> * Qt5Multimedia
[18:05:33] <Runaway1956> * Qt5Network
[18:05:35] <Runaway1956> * Qt5PrintSupport
[18:05:39] <Runaway1956> * Qt5Qml
[18:05:41] <Runaway1956> * Qt5Svg
[18:05:43] <Runaway1956> * Qt5Widgets
[18:05:45] <Runaway1956> * Qt5 (required version >= 5.6.0)
[18:05:47] <Runaway1956> -- The following OPTIONAL packages have not been found:
[18:05:49] <Runaway1956> * Qt5WebEngineWidgets (required version >= 5.15.0), QtWebEngine based backend (widgets), <https://www.qt.io/>
[18:05:52] <Runaway1956> * Qt5WebKitWidgets (required version >= 5.212.0), QtWebKit based backend (widgets), <https://qtwebkit.github.io/>
[18:05:53] <systemd> ^ 03Page not found &middot; GitHub Pages
[18:05:55] <Runaway1956> * Hunspell (required version >= 1.5.0), Generic spell checking support, <https://hunspell.github.io/>
[18:05:56] <systemd> ^ 03Page not found &middot; GitHub Pages
[18:05:57] <Runaway1956> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:610 (message):
[18:05:59] <Runaway1956> No web backends available!
[18:06:12] <Runaway1956> Oh-oh - did I wreck systemd?
[18:10:04] <janrinok> It's not worth the effort IMHO. I'll wait until they have sorted it out. I've started the build but if it doesn't work I'll leave it for another time.
[18:13:53] <Runaway1956> after installing qt5webkit dev files, cmake works without error
[18:14:15] <janrinok> I'm 88% through the build
[18:14:40] <Runaway1956> just run make now, right?
[18:15:51] <Runaway1956> 30%
[18:16:21] <Runaway1956> checking coffee situation . . .
[18:17:10] <janrinok> Build failed at 97% with a coding error.
[18:17:50] <Runaway1956> I have fresh cup of coffee, so maybe it will work better for me?
[18:18:00] <janrinok> 449 | emit importFinished(Importer::BookmarksImport, Importer::FailedImport, 0);
[18:18:19] <janrinok> 449 | emit importFinished(Importer::BookmarksImport, Importer::FailedImport, 0);
[18:18:34] <janrinok> full error message is too long to display here
[18:18:40] <Runaway1956> Why on earth would it import bookmarks on a fresh build? That sounds dumb as hell
[18:18:53] <Runaway1956> 55%
[18:20:58] * janrinok crosses otter browser off his list for the time being...
[18:24:50] <Runaway1956> Same error here -
[18:25:00] * Runaway1956 follows janrinok's example
[18:25:50] <janrinok> I'll go through the c++ code when I have time to spare but, until then, it will have to wait.
[18:25:51] <Runaway1956> the error is in qtwebkitwebbackend.cpp
[18:26:39] <janrinok> data/bin-dev/otter/otter-browser/src/modules/backends/web/qtwebkit/QtWebKitWebBackend.cpp
[18:43:55] <Runaway1956> emdek on #otter-browser is looking at it - he says the compile issue was created yesterday
[18:44:25] <Runaway1956> apparently, if we had tried to compile two days ago, and finally satisfied all dependencies, it would have built then
[18:46:14] <Runaway1956> I've done a git pull, did cmake, and make is running again
[18:47:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - As Science Advances, How Well Does Ockham’s Razor Still Apply? - https://sylnt.us - how-complete-and-simple-is-your-answer?
[18:50:16] <Runaway1956> OK janrinok - otter browser is working on my system
[18:50:35] <Runaway1956> scroll up a couple lines for the fix
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[18:53:04] <SoyBull> whoot - otter browser works!
[18:53:46] <SoyBull> where have all the soycows gone?
[18:57:49] <SoyBull> https://www.youtube.com
[18:57:51] <systemd> ^ 0312-year-old jumps off overpass, kills driver
[18:58:00] <SoyBull> that is truly fucked up
[20:16:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Don't trust the computer; don't trust the person who told you what he found on the computer - https://sylnt.us - quis-custodiet-ipsos-custodes
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[21:30:18] <chromas> https://www.theguardian.com
[21:30:19] <systemd> ^ 03The battle over dyslexia
[21:30:36] <chromas> Dylsexia
[21:40:25] <FatPhil> you can keep your dyl sex to yourself, mate
[21:41:49] <chromas> no
[21:44:01] <AzumaHazuki> dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!
[22:26:42] <FatPhil> lod
[22:36:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dont Trust the Computer; Dont Trust the Person Who Told you What he Found on the Computer - https://sylnt.us - quis-custodiet-ipsos-custodes || New Water Treatment Technology Could Fix Mars Soil and Earth Soil - https://sylnt.us - next:-fix-the-air
[22:41:18] <chromas> is Mars' soil broken?
[23:04:58] <Bytram> =g perchlorate
[23:04:59] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Perchlorate - Wikipedia
[23:05:08] <Bytram> =g Mars perchlorate
[23:05:09] <systemd> https://www.cambridge.org - Perchlorate on Mars: a chemical hazard and a resource for humans ...
[23:13:06] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[23:13:09] <systemd> ^ 03Minority Report
[23:13:18] <chromas> So much nonsense
[23:13:26] <chromas> Impact sprinkler sound effects for a twirly sprinkler
[23:24:01] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[23:24:02] <systemd> Search failed: Key not found: viewCount (std/json.d: 641)
[23:24:17] <Bytram> =yt N8zQNMWZLWQ
[23:24:17] <systemd> Search failed: Key not found: viewCount (std/json.d: 641)