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[00:14:59] <t3> the kobo elipsa looks nice, but there's so much hype and speculation about new display tech coming soon that I'm hesitant
[00:40:46] <kyonko_> I knew of the zilog 80 trainer board, but I didn't know about the microproffessor MP-1
[00:42:34] <kyonko_> I can't stand kde plasma.... only kde 3.5
[00:42:45] <kyonko_> haven't tried MATE yet
[00:49:01] <requerdanos> hmm, few are the people who know what Mate is but haven't tried it at least once.
[00:52:52] <kyonko_> its gnome2 updated
[00:53:10] <kyonko_> I don't strictly need touch screen access in linux
[00:53:28] <kyonko_> i'm good with mouse
[01:12:34] <t3> damn new laptop is so thin the cat wants to chew on it, already put a hole in the corner before i caught him
[01:17:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GameStop Stock Falls Sharply Amid 5M-Share Sales Plan, SEC Investigation - https://sylnt.us - sharp-pointy-lines
[01:36:44] <kyonko_> I got a post covid chip shortage lenovo chromebook with glove compatible touch screen
[01:37:41] <kyonko_> I need a new samsung android phone
[01:39:09] <kyonko_> it can be articulated into a keyboarded tablet
[01:39:18] <kyonko_> very lite, weighs like a runt kitten
[01:42:48] <Runaway1956> How many runt kittens make one healthy dog?
[01:44:19] <kyonko_> depends if its an asthmahound chihuahua
[01:45:14] <requerdanos> Dogs are, unfortunately for this line of thought, not made of kittens.
[01:46:19] <kyonko_> i know what he meant tho
[01:46:35] <requerdanos> is it a mass-equivalence thing?
[01:46:44] <kyonko_> more like alchemy
[01:46:57] <kyonko_> give up sex to know the truth
[01:47:32] <requerdanos> alchemy sex thing. got it.
[02:15:07] <raxas> feeding kittens to dog is an untolerable crime
[02:16:09] <t3> feeding dog to kittens is OK, just make sure to tenderize it so they don't strain those jaws
[02:20:19] <Runaway1956> https://www.thedrive.com
[02:20:20] <systemd> ^ 037.62x51mm Rifles And Miniguns Adapted To Fire Longer-Range Polymer Cased 6.8mm Ammo In Tests
[02:20:56] <Runaway1956> polymer casings - reduce weight and increase velocity and range all at the same time?
[02:27:07] <kyonko_> hubris, something is going to get soft and melt
[02:27:40] <raxas> I am not sure if such ammunition will be sufficient against russian robots cladded in ceramic titanium boride armor. adequate against homeland riots though
[02:28:49] <kyonko_> oh i've seen them
[02:28:56] <kyonko_> they work, for like, single shots
[02:29:07] <kyonko_> non-reloadable
[02:29:19] <kyonko_> it would be a good idea for the hunter market
[02:29:46] <kyonko_> czechs love guns
[02:29:51] <kyonko_> they are always inventing them
[02:30:22] <kyonko_> behind the view of prying eyes a man will always be crafting a gun
[02:30:57] <kyonko_> computers under strict end user control are the new guns tho
[02:31:32] <raxas> https://www.youtube.com
[02:31:35] <systemd> ^ 03Пушка Гаусса Gauss Gun "COBRA" CoilGun
[02:31:56] <kyonko_> you would have thought the CIS would have created caseless guns, but they haven't
[02:32:05] <kyonko_> because their idea of gun works good enough
[02:33:27] <kyonko_> the biggest modern day war horse machine gun is kalashnikov designed and fires a cartridge from the 1890's
[02:34:49] <Runaway1956> https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com
[02:34:50] <systemd> ^ 03Police watch man strip naked, destroy motorcycle, bite tree: 'Thanks to legislators, we couldn't do anything'
[02:35:02] <kyonko_> he's not hurting anyone
[02:35:10] <kyonko_> was the motorcycle his?
[02:35:27] <kyonko_> lol its police news
[02:35:31] <Runaway1956> I'm of two minds on that one
[02:35:56] <kyonko_> human bites are terrible if you catch one
[02:35:57] <Runaway1956> He probably should have taken a ride to the local looney bin for observation, and probably sedation
[02:36:02] <kyonko_> even a bite on clothing is unnerving
[02:36:11] <kyonko_> Runaway1956, euthanasia!
[02:36:25] <Runaway1956> of course, not knowing what he was high on, sedation might be out of the question
[02:36:36] <kyonko_> he's high on YHWH
[02:36:47] <Runaway1956> at least the cops didn't shoot him for being sassy
[02:37:00] <kyonko_> the computer didn't tell the cops to
[02:37:21] <Runaway1956> "disrespect of an officer of the law" was a capital offense very recently
[02:37:30] <kyonko_> lol where?
[02:38:16] <kyonko_> I don't dig cops acting like armed and violent catholic priests
[02:38:26] <kyonko_> the catholic padres already do enough harm raping kids
[02:39:45] <kyonko_> they know why they do it tho
[02:40:11] <kyonko_> government is exactly the same, infact, they are competitors
[02:40:43] <Runaway1956> https://www.foxnews.com
[02:40:43] <kyonko_> you think bill gates wouldn't have taken a once in a cosmos change to ascend?
[02:40:44] <systemd> ^ 03White House silent as Dem civil war brews between Pelosi, 'Squad'
[02:41:14] <Runaway1956> All of those squat squad wenches need to be spanked soundly
[02:41:24] <Runaway1956> spoiled bitches, all of them
[02:41:46] <kyonko_> we need a real life james bond, for real real life james bond villians
[02:42:26] <raxas> to me, james bond was a villain
[02:42:31] <kyonko_> baby stewie from family guy was a cartoon, but these people exist by the hundreds world wide
[02:42:40] <kyonko_> ok raxas
[02:42:42] <Runaway1956> https://www.foxnews.com
[02:42:43] <systemd> ^ 03PBS journo: 'Experts' say it 'might take several election cycles' for US to rebuild Europe's trust after Trump
[02:42:47] <kyonko_> who was the last monarch of the czechs?
[02:43:18] <Runaway1956> I didn't know the czechs could afford their own monarch - didn't they just borrow and import from other places?
[02:43:25] <raxas> we were occupied by austria for 300 years
[02:43:33] <kyonko_> they got conquered
[02:43:37] <Runaway1956> Yeah, something like that
[02:43:50] <kyonko_> but you guys had guns
[02:43:52] <t3> USA is the evil empire these days
[02:43:59] <t3> james bond is gonna be chinese
[02:44:14] <Runaway1956> Czechoslovakia is the Nigeria of Europe
[02:44:26] <Runaway1956> or the Congo
[02:44:27] <kyonko_> nigeria of europe is spain
[02:44:36] <kyonko_> congo of europe is france
[02:45:01] <raxas> none of those monarchs are considerd 'my'. similarly to scotchland or ireland
[02:45:30] <kyonko_> do you know how the czech language formed?
[02:45:37] <Runaway1956> https://www.techrepublic.com
[02:45:38] <systemd> ^ 03How to move VirtualBox VMs from one drive to another
[02:46:07] <Runaway1956> Monarchs never belong to you - they own you
[02:46:07] <raxas> czech is very similar sanskrit, just like other slavic languages
[02:46:26] <kyonko_> if you want to be deep, then yes
[02:46:33] <kyonko_> indo-european
[02:46:42] <Runaway1956> That's what kills me about the UK - they claim to be a democracy, but they keep their monarch
[02:46:59] <kyonko_> the US is rich with fake freedom
[02:47:44] <kyonko_> bill gates is setting the world on fire, being free won't mean anything
[02:47:46] <Runaway1956> Ohhh I don't know about fake freedom - I've always gone where I pleased, and done as I liked
[02:48:37] * Runaway1956 reads more on moving VMs from /home to a media drive
[02:48:37] <t3> freedom is a state of being, you either are or are not
[02:48:45] <kyonko_> why isn't bill gates at leveanworth or adx
[02:48:46] <t3> laws don't have anything to do with it
[02:49:47] <kyonko_> freedom pretty much boils down to: nature is going to kill you, or you are going to get killed or bound if you caught doing it
[02:49:52] <raxas> guys did you noticed the current political wokeism wave does not apply to europe's monarchs?
[02:50:04] <raxas> that's the key to the situation
[02:50:06] <kyonko_> yeah nobody mentions monarchs
[02:50:21] <kyonko_> I know what king leopold did
[02:50:34] <Runaway1956> Not quite accurate - the news is constantly being choked with news on the royal family
[02:51:08] <kyonko_> what do you think of oliver cromwell and his longbowl and matchlock gun war, raxas ?
[02:51:15] <Runaway1956> I think women are worse than men -
[02:51:27] <Runaway1956> chicks all want to squeeze a prince's penis
[02:51:45] <kyonko_> a nurse does that all the time putting a catheter in
[02:52:24] <raxas> cromwell was just a first modern dictator, a model for all future modern dictators
[02:52:40] <raxas> and nothing changed since
[02:52:50] <kyonko_> oh my god, don't say you liked lenin?
[02:53:25] <kyonko_> the english civilwar had a lot of swordplay
[02:53:36] <raxas> at least lenin cared about real people
[02:53:45] <kyonko_> english civil war of cromwell is easy to war game
[02:54:20] <kyonko_> you are a trip raxas
[02:54:45] <kyonko_> you could say mao was cool because he ended male castration in china
[02:55:32] <kyonko_> mao may he ended centuries tradition of castration in china, but he killed them before they reached reproductive age tho
[02:55:48] <kyonko_> now its done in mental gymnastics
[02:56:11] <raxas> male castration should be compulsory for all civil servant officials and candidates
[02:56:17] <kyonko_> oh no shit?
[02:56:36] <kyonko_> run by eunuchs?
[02:56:39] <t3> that would probably solve quite a few problems
[02:56:44] <kyonko_> hahahahahahaha
[02:56:56] <raxas> it worked well in ancient times
[02:57:03] <kyonko_> too bad catholic priests arent castrated
[02:57:12] <kyonko_> freud mentions castration a lot
[02:57:47] <kyonko_> I got 4 cats I need to get spayed/neutered
[03:03:23] <kyonko_> castration doesn't stop... ugh i don't know
[03:03:28] <kyonko_> do they stop getting hard?
[03:07:04] <Runaway1956> https://www.independent.co.uk
[03:07:05] <systemd> ^ 03Owner of thieving cat invites neighbours to reclaim stolen items
[03:07:29] <Runaway1956> kinda cute, but I'm not subbing it . . .
[03:08:43] <Runaway1956> https://www.nytimes.com
[03:08:44] <systemd> ^ 03Three F.D.A. Advisers Resign Over Agency’s Approval of Alzheimer’s Drug
[03:08:57] <Runaway1956> Did we have that old timer's story on the front page?
[03:09:03] * Runaway1956 looks
[03:10:02] <Runaway1956> Yep, thought so -
[03:10:16] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[03:10:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Three F.D.A. Advisers Resign Over Agency’s Approval of Alzheimer’s Drug" (32p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:10:31] <Runaway1956> might be good for another discussion
[03:14:15] <raxas> =submit https://www.rt.com
[03:14:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Slavoj Žižek: the Difference Between ‘Woke’ and a True Awakening" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:14:47] <Runaway1956> =submit https://news.usni.org We really need a NOOKLAR missile to nail a camel jockey?
[03:14:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Lawmakers Question Navy's Decision to Abandon Nuclear Cruise Missile - USNI News" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:47:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SK Hynix Admits to DRAM Defects, Calls the Cops - https://sylnt.us - dram-of-cyber-libel
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[04:56:36] <FatPhil> I don't understand why people like Zizek's witterings so much, he's amusing in his delivery, but he has no great insights into anything, IME.
[04:58:35] <FatPhil> He can be wrong, he can be right. Toss a coin. As someone into information theory, that makes him useless as anything apart from a source of entropy.
[05:02:53] <AzumaHazuki> FatPhil: because he tells them what they want to hear and he's "politically incorrect"
[05:03:03] <AzumaHazuki> so catnip to an unhinged conspiracy nut like runaway
[05:04:18] <t3> can the problem be solved if runaway switches to real drugs instead of catnip?
[05:06:00] <AzumaHazuki> depends on the drug, i think
[05:07:20] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: there's some of that. I'm not particularly deviant from his political beliefs, but think what he writes is obvious because of that.
[05:08:24] <AzumaHazuki> we are not dealing with well minds here. civilization is approaching a crisis point and no one knows what's coming out of it
[05:08:28] <FatPhil> for some context, raxas just submitted https://www.rt.com , which I broadly agree with. But don't see it as having any great philosophical or ethical insights.
[05:08:30] <systemd> ^ 03Slavoj Žižek: The difference between ‘woke’ and a true awakening
[05:10:58] <t3> I don't agree, because I don't see these "wokes" anywhere but RWNJs imaginations
[05:11:20] <t3> cancel culture karens have very little overlap with "woke"
[05:17:23] <FatPhil> if you're prepared to overlap karenism with cancel culture, you're clearly able to cast a very broad net over concepts, and woke really should have been part of such coverage.
[05:18:36] <AzumaHazuki> it's all hypocrisy. anytime you see a "conservative" rageshitting their pants, know you're looking at someone complanining about someone else doing something said "conservative" has done, is doing, will do, or wishes to do
[05:18:39] <AzumaHazuki> it's that simple
[05:19:15] <AzumaHazuki> it boils down to "fuck you, only ME and MY TRIBE get to do that! You're outgroup!"
[05:19:27] <t3> cancel culture is just people getting upset in the age of mass media
[05:19:40] <t3> it's nothing new or special or worthy of attention
[05:20:20] <t3> but I have yet to meet real life "woke" nutjobs
[05:20:57] <t3> meanwhile I can find 100x crackheads with nazi tattoos anywhere around
[05:21:41] <AzumaHazuki> like i said...projection
[05:25:06] <FatPhil> I agree that the proportions are distorted in the conservative media, but that doesn't mean that the smaller problem is zero.
[05:25:39] <AzumaHazuki> this is true. have you noticed, though, that especially younger people like me, while we usually vote D, aren't tribal about it?
[05:26:06] <AzumaHazuki> my generation has no specific tribal loyalty. we're literally just voting for the people least likely to collapse the nation around our heads
[05:26:15] <FatPhil> And certainly, there's a lot of hypocrisy, an absolute lack of self-reflection, and lack of awareness of how your actions would be viewed if labels were reversed.
[05:26:34] <AzumaHazuki> this seems to make older, more "conservative" voters a little nuts. they can't comprehend anything outside their experiene
[05:27:41] <FatPhil> No offence to you personally, obviously, I would hope I wouldn't need the disclaimer, but I see a *lot* of extremely tribal behaviour among young D voters. They're some of the least critical thinkers I've encountered.
[05:28:25] <FatPhil> I think peak stupidity became obvious when there was groupthink of supporting the corrupt psychopath with a vagina 5 years ago.
[05:28:54] <t3> we are the most propagandized and also the most educated generation, both the least and most ignorant
[05:29:02] <AzumaHazuki> you give them too little credit. almost no one i knew actually liked Clinton, they just knew a Trump admin would be a shitshow
[05:29:05] <AzumaHazuki> and lo and behold...
[05:29:45] <AzumaHazuki> so how about not cutting off our noses to spite our faces, hm? we know how bad the situation is. why do you think i've been so intent on escaping north? i feel like a refugee in my own country
[05:30:36] <FatPhil> Yup, of course the shitnozzles which splort information about the US to me are probably not that representative of large proportions of the country, I accept that.
[05:31:28] <FatPhil> Which is why I like discussing real world perceptions with you lot. Even the political cranks ;-) But even SN is a terrible sample.
[05:31:30] <AzumaHazuki> this country is dead. i think, in hindsight, we'll realize it died in 1980. right now i can only focus on doing what's necessary to at least try and get the fuck out before it all implodes
[05:31:42] <AzumaHazuki> yeah SN has a hideous rightwing nutjob infestation
[05:34:59] <AzumaHazuki> i cannot believe some of the utter psychopathic shit i've seen advanced by some of SN's commenters with, presumably, the closest things to a straight face they own.
[05:37:16] <t3> it's more interesting to let everyone have their say thoughOC
[05:37:17] <t3> OCOC
[05:37:43] <AzumaHazuki> oh, yeah, i'm not saying not to let people condemn themselves with their own words
[05:37:45] <FatPhil> I'd not call them psychopaths, I think sociopath is the word you're looking for!
[05:38:18] <AzumaHazuki> FatPhil: in either case, they've willingly and even gleefully thrown their human card in the incinerator. after wiping their ass on it.
[05:40:24] <FatPhil> their view on the essence of humanity is mostly non-overlapping with ours. They'd view us as the weirdos.
[05:41:05] <t3> I don't think the racists are any kind of *path
[05:41:17] <t3> just stupid regular humans
[05:41:50] <FatPhil> yup, tribalism's everywhere, and you'll never stamp it out.
[05:41:55] <AzumaHazuki> sorry t3, but there are some lines you cross that get you disqualified from the human race for shoving. evil is real, it's out there, and it's laughing at those of us who pretend otherwise
[05:42:54] <FatPhil> I prefer a tribalism that shouts at the referee and then congratulates supporters of the opposing team after the match with a "we'll get you next time".
[05:43:51] <t3> nope, good and evil is the tribalism that destroys us, I refuse to live like that
[05:44:38] <FatPhil> in that case, you're doomed to destruction yourself, unfortunately.
[05:44:50] <t3> thats cool
[05:45:20] <FatPhil> yeah, but you're taking the rest of society with you
[05:45:32] <t3> nope, just myself
[05:45:48] <t3> that's all I can do, and all that can be expected of me
[05:45:56] <FatPhil> so you think that society *should* have a sense of good and evil, then?
[05:46:18] <t3> no, good and evil are horrible conceptions of the world
[05:46:25] <t3> that kind of thinking is a joke
[05:46:31] <t3> childish clown shit
[05:46:37] <FatPhil> then you're dooming all of society to destruction, as I first said.
[05:46:52] <t3> good
[05:47:20] <FatPhil> so by "nope, just myself", you actually meant "yes, good"?
[05:47:24] <FatPhil> Zizek, is that you?
[05:47:41] <t3> I don't think humanity is special
[05:48:09] <t3> I would be procreating and capitalizing and all that if i did
[05:48:45] <t3> I'm just gonna ride it out while it lasts
[05:50:32] <FatPhil> We're capable of great things, and I think that aspect's worth celebrating.
[05:51:27] <FatPhil> Why the *fuck* doesn't 'history' have a switch for listing things in reverse? GNU's retarded.
[05:59:18] <inz> history|tac?
[06:03:46] <FatPhil> Because if one program should have to have O(N) space, then creating more O(N) space programs is fine. If one's OK, any number's OK, amirite?
[06:08:00] <t3> isn't history a shell builtin tho?
[06:08:39] <FatPhil> the choice to output history forwards was an arbitrary decision (and an illogical one) in the first place, which is a clear indicator that both directions should be equally accessible to the user.
[06:08:49] <FatPhil> yup
[06:09:12] <FatPhil> shell has O(N) for memory of history. Solve problem by creating a tac that needs O(N) memory too.
[06:16:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel May Attempt to Acquire SiFive for $2 Billion - https://sylnt.us - if-you-can't-beat-'em,-buy-'em?
[06:16:56] <FatPhil> well, in reality it's fail to solve problem by creating a rev that doesn't do anything useful, then create a tac that does.
[06:19:22] <chromas> I like fish's completion thingamajig
[06:19:52] <chromas> I can type something then use the arrows to go through history that matches what I typed as a substring
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[06:23:01] <FatPhil> doesn't seem that dissimilar from just ctrl-R, but you need to know in advance that you'll be searching
[06:23:55] <FatPhil> so that means if you start typing a command, and then realise you just want to do the same thing you just did, you have to delete the command before you up-arrow, or is it on a different key?
[06:24:36] <t3> no fish is very slick
[06:24:52] <FatPhil> how is that a "no"? what are you disagreeing with?
[06:25:13] <t3> you don't have to delete anything, just move the arrows
[06:25:14] <chromas> "no fish" is slick ;)
[06:25:36] <chromas> it also tries to be a smartass about which directory you're in
[06:26:01] <chromas> so if I'm in the irc bot build directory then it'll try to predict the build command and whatnot
[06:26:07] <FatPhil> so that's also "yes", as my "it is on a separate key" must be right
[06:27:09] <FatPhil> I just have different shells for different work in different directories, that's how I keep my histories context sensitive
[06:27:25] <FatPhil> which also has the benefit of the scrollbacks all being relevant too.
[06:27:53] <FatPhil> Alas, GNU history can't save such state
[06:28:39] <chromas> no zsh in your box?
[06:28:46] <FatPhil> fortunately, shell windows last for months to years.
[06:29:02] <chromas> I guess it'd probably give me the same features as fish but I'd have to run the InstallShield Wizard to set it up first
[06:29:56] <FatPhil> I can get zsh on this box in 20 keypresses if I desire
[06:31:06] <t3> what are you trying to do with your shell history tho?
[06:31:11] <FatPhil> I'm not sure the different windows have different histories is an easily solvable problem anyway.
[06:31:21] <t3> just use $HISTFILE
[06:32:15] <FatPhil> HISTFILE could be shoehorned into being a solution
[06:33:13] <FatPhil> however, as I say, I rarely close windows, so I rarely lose anything
[06:47:26] <t3> I used to go to great lengths saving and logging the shell history until I realized that I almost never actually needed to go back more than 10 lines for anything that wasn't better off aliased or scripted
[06:51:02] <FatPhil> absolutely
[06:52:40] <FatPhil> one of my only uses of history now is just to pull up the command to play a vid from a series, and to edit the filename part to play the next episode.
[06:53:06] <FatPhil> s/history/old history/
[06:53:06] <SedBot> <FatPhil> one of my only uses of old history now is just to pull up the command to play a vid from a series, and to edit the filename part to play the next episode.
[06:53:38] <FatPhil> almost all my other shells are just repeated <up><up><up><return>
[06:54:56] <inz> FatPhil, my assessment of GNU programs isn't that they would have too few features...
[06:55:35] <FatPhil> total agreement there
[06:56:22] <FatPhil> when I look at the manpage trying to find something simple, I'm shocked by how much irrelevant shit is polluting the programs.
[06:57:10] <FatPhil> E.g. despite what I said about history|tac earlier, I don't think that tar should have any compression options - that's what a pipe is for.
[06:58:09] <FatPhil> https://www.kuvaton.com
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[08:34:00] <FatPhil> Do we have any czechs or belgians awake?
[08:35:29] <FatPhil> Just wondering what the local mainstream news is like regarding world news and covid in India.
[08:35:43] <inz> I saw neigbour's groenendael belgian shepherd this morning, but it probably doesn't count.
[08:35:51] <FatPhil> Actually, americans can answer that question too.
[08:36:31] <FatPhil> I can beat that - I saw two belgian beers in the fridge this morning!
[08:37:14] <FatPhil> And a czech, and a hungarian, for that matter, if we're cherry-picking places which have actually had a bad case of the wuflu.
[08:37:28] <FatPhil> which is indeed what I'm doing.
[08:37:49] <inz> I guess you can easily find estonian anything
[08:38:35] <FatPhil> I just got called out for saying "CoVid in India ain't that much of a disaster". Because, erm, FUCK HAVE YOU SEEN EASTERN EUROPE!!!!!
[08:39:33] <FatPhil> Well, that's the reason I said it, not the reason I'm being called out.
[08:40:23] <FatPhil> I think I'm being called out because in absolute terms the numbers look scary. But that's not how I do population statistics. I do them on a per-capita basis.
[08:43:28] <inz> Large number in a large country is a problem too, but not due to the humanitarian reasons, but simply because it's a huge amount of entropy for mutation.
[08:45:03] <FatPhil> indeed. the potential is pretty scary.
[08:47:01] <FatPhil> Anyone fancy pasta carbanana for lunch? https://i.imgur.com
[08:48:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Member of FDA's Expert Panel Resigns Over Controversial Alzheimer's Therapy Approval - https://sylnt.us - I-quit!
[08:49:16] <inz> One serving contains 400000% RDA iron.
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[11:27:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Asteroid 16 Psyche Might Not be What Scientists Expected - https://sylnt.us - That's-no-moon
[11:48:33] <Runaway1956> I think I'll find something else for lunch FatPhil - even if it's another fat- loaded preprocessed burrito
[11:48:47] <Ellenor> the issue with the burrito isn't the fat
[11:48:51] <Ellenor> they're actually quite low in fat
[11:49:02] <Runaway1956> Home made burritos aren't fatty
[11:49:27] <Runaway1956> some of those store bought burritos are loaded with fat - my gall bladder lets me know about it
[11:51:25] <Ellenor> oh
[11:51:30] <Ellenor> you're someone who can't digest fat
[11:51:32] <Ellenor> huh
[11:52:04] <Ellenor> well i mean i have a habit of giving my gallbladder a workout with every meal so I am not worried about having an issue digesting fat
[11:55:19] <Runaway1956> I'm getting old - the gall bladder thing is a relatively recent development
[11:55:25] <Ellenor> oh
[11:56:06] <Runaway1956> Find your lowest rib on the right, about halfway between center and right side, try to slip a finger under/behind it
[11:56:19] <Runaway1956> imagine a hot knife point lodged under there
[11:56:41] <Runaway1956> not very big, just the point of the knife
[12:01:38] <Ellenor> teaching someone where it be
[12:02:12] <Ellenor> and yee that sounds painful
[12:02:13] <Ellenor> I've had non-painful events there when consuming unemulsified fat
[12:04:22] <Ellenor> a bit uncomfortable
[12:05:45] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: but that was surely the ultimate drive-thru food?
[12:06:53] <Runaway1956> Drive-thru food is mostly healthier than some of the frozen messes my wife brings home from the store.
[12:08:18] <Runaway1956> I'm learning all over again that I want to read the label of foods I'm unfamiliar with
[12:08:39] <Runaway1956> some brands have no relationship to the pictures on the package
[12:39:36] <FatPhil> Oh, shit of shits. I just did some delicate little cleaning jobs in the bathroom, and as I put the brush back where it belongs, I noticed there already was a brush there. I just used my toothbrush :(
[12:42:00] <inz> Soo... You pranked yourself?
[12:43:31] <FatPhil> Yeah. Fortunately I have different toothbrushes for different household chores of varying levels of horror and cross-contamination, and this was the least distateful of the cleaning jobs. So I'm gonna risk it.
[12:43:51] <FatPhil> cross-contamination *avoidance*, that is
[12:48:25] <FatPhil> no harm a shot of cask-strength whisky can't cure
[12:50:17] <inz> The WD-40 of health care
[13:31:43] <kyonko_> because botulism
[13:31:48] <kyonko_> remember, vinegar and bleach
[13:31:53] <kyonko_> its the pits against hussein
[13:35:05] <inz> Yeah, bleach jabs are the way to go.
[13:35:14] <inz> At least in trumpikiztan
[13:35:49] <kyonko_> at least trump gave you freedom
[13:36:40] <kyonko_> i kamala was going to get into the white house in the end, why didn't they make her president elect?
[13:37:04] <kyonko_> they just back tracked on their open borders
[13:38:38] <kyonko_> i'm not sure how bad it really got, there really isn't a bestgore website for bleach drinkers
[13:38:51] <inz> Trump gave me nothing, but bad laughs
[13:38:55] <kyonko_> and only fools go out to peep
[13:39:11] <kyonko_> trump played the anti-science game hard
[13:39:16] <kyonko_> he had no choice really
[13:39:16] <inz> I'd say good laughs, but the concept is so terrifying, that they're not even good
[13:40:05] <kyonko_> reality is, either you chose to associate with majority flat earth, young earth, creationists, or you and your family become loner shut-ins
[13:40:14] <inz> Yeah, when your opinions are wrong, you need to ignore the facts.
[13:40:54] <kyonko_> the fact is, I come from monkeys
[13:41:51] <kyonko_> biden is obviously unfit to govern.... so why did harris end up the VP
[13:42:03] <kyonko_> because big data said biden should be P
[13:42:07] <kyonko_> POTUS
[13:43:51] <t3> harris is black and a cop/lawyer, some of the most hated groups for americans
[13:44:18] <kyonko_> harris was actually a bonafide bitch
[13:44:23] <t3> better to keep her baackground and let joe be the punching bag
[13:45:03] <kyonko_> the united states before the bond villians made their moves, had serious revolutionary greivances akin the martin luther's reformation
[13:45:43] <kyonko_> who is joe the punching bag for?
[13:45:59] <kyonko_> joe biden made everything illegal back in 1994
[13:49:54] <kyonko_> this was way before 911 and the patriot act and the nsa in 2007
[13:49:56] <t3> in representative democracy, elected officials most important role is that of the jester, distracting people from the structures and systems that are not accountable to the voters
[13:50:23] <kyonko_> there is no bigger jester than trudeau
[13:50:56] <kyonko_> before the FINAL LOCKDOWN in canada becase "corona virus", a civilian disguised his car and himself like a cop and went on a ride shooting people on the street
[13:51:24] <kyonko_> too convenient in a time table
[13:55:25] <FatPhil> the attempt to curb freedom became clear when Clinton tried to push through the Clipper chip within months of coming into power.
[13:55:41] <FatPhil> which tells me that it was being worked on before he came to power.
[13:55:52] <FatPhil> which also tells me that it doesn't really matter who's in power.
[13:56:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hackers Steal Wealth of Data from Game Giant EA - https://sylnt.us - it's-only-a-game...of-cat-and-mouse
[13:57:01] <Teckla> Humans didn't "come from monkeys," we have a common ancestor with monkeys.
[14:00:10] <kyonko_> I like to say "monkeys" because, well capuchin monkeys are cute
[14:03:09] <FatPhil> Monkey: "a nonhuman primate mammal with the exception usually of the lemurs and tarsiers"
[14:03:24] <FatPhil> How would our ancestor not be a "monkey" by that definition?
[14:03:43] <FatPhil> https://www.merriam-webster.com
[14:03:45] <systemd> ^ 03Definition of MONKEY
[14:04:25] <t3> I always thought monkeys and apes were distinguished by whether or not they have a tail
[14:04:48] <FatPhil> That depends on what your universe of discourse is.
[14:04:49] <kyonko_> the clipper chip turned out to be some serious bullshit in the end
[14:04:58] <FatPhil> Matt Blaze rocks
[14:05:05] <kyonko_> because UN human rights say drug cartels can not be tapped in latin america
[14:05:21] <kyonko_> lemurs, lol
[14:05:56] <kyonko_> and if you run a factory, you are a fool if you don't hire drug users and then deny it
[14:06:10] <kyonko_> you just can't compete "dope" free
[14:06:21] <kyonko_> its all by design to chew you up and spit you in a mass grave
[14:06:25] <kyonko_> *cough* 2020
[14:06:38] <kyonko_> much turmoil these olympics
[14:10:23] <FatPhil> Are men's turmoil and women's turmoil different events this still, or have they been merged?
[14:10:27] <kyonko_> then there was always that international news of the next of kin of the imprisoned in latin american forming long lines to go see when the whole prison kills each other, or is set ablaze onto a hell on earth
[14:10:33] <FatPhil> s/this //
[14:10:33] <SedBot> <FatPhil> Are men's turmoil and women's turmoil different events still, or have they been merged?
[14:10:41] <t3> https://www.theatlantic.com
[14:10:42] <systemd> ^ 03The Never-Aging Ants With a Terrible Secret
[14:11:01] <kyonko_> i'm pretty sure ants are designed by evolution to die
[14:11:08] <kyonko_> just like bees sacrifice themselves for the hive
[14:11:09] <FatPhil> I think tedious friday's run out, time for fun friday.
[14:11:20] <kyonko_> aren't you 60 FatPhil
[14:11:26] <janrinok> .... thank God - it was giving me a headache
[14:11:47] <kyonko_> the cats chow down fine with an ant filled bowl
[14:11:49] <janrinok> is FP only a youngster then...?
[14:15:23] <kyonko_> when i got on facebook i discovered something called "IFL" existed
[14:15:27] <kyonko_> "I fucking love science"
[14:18:44] <FatPhil> nah, hit the big 50 a few months back.
[14:19:24] <FatPhil> still as fat, stupid, and ugly, I was hoping that would all change.
[14:19:34] <kyonko_> do you have primary care physician?
[14:19:57] <kyonko_> here they euthanize you if you show up at the ER without a history of primary care
[14:20:35] <kyonko_> and celebrities in their 50's and having kids from frozen ovums
[14:20:54] <kyonko_> its not just mexicans rolling in each others blood
[14:21:47] <FatPhil> don't talk about health care, I'm angry at the idiocy I've just encountered
[14:21:51] <kyonko_> tried to look up machine language/code and all I could get was the first generation CPU's
[14:22:11] <kyonko_> I think obamacare is ok, if you aren't stupid only
[14:22:44] <kyonko_> trump never touched my obamacare
[14:22:47] <kyonko_> and my obamaphone
[14:22:50] <kyonko_> my snitchphone
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[14:38:16] <t3> these new tld's are just ridiculous, such a stupid money grab
[14:38:27] <kyonko_> they have a lot in cyrillic
[14:38:36] <kyonko_> and who is into tld's no anyway, everyone is on facebook
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[14:59:13] <Teckla> coffee++
[14:59:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5568
[15:14:54] <Teckla> FatPhil: Hey, fellow 50-something guy! :)
[15:15:07] <Teckla> I'm also fat, stupid, and ugly!
[15:16:20] <Teckla> Just started dieting yesterday, hoping to lose 5-10 pounds. That's about 2.3-4.5 kg for our friends that don't use Freedom Units.
[15:16:48] <Teckla> I've lost weight before, and I know the secret: basically, starve yourself.
[15:16:51] <Teckla> Requires a lot of willpower.
[15:17:08] <Teckla> If you're hungry almost all the time, you're doing it right.
[15:17:51] <t3> adding a regular fiber supplement dropped 10 pounds over a few months for me with no other changes
[15:18:24] * Teckla consumes massive amounts of fiber for... reasons.
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[16:02:09] <kyonko_> define fat
[16:02:19] <kyonko_> there are a lot of strange human bodies out there
[16:02:43] <kyonko_> AzumaHazuki is fat
[16:05:52] <raxas> =submit https://www.biorxiv.org
[16:05:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03A Connectomic Study of a Petascale Fragment of Human Cerebral Cortex" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:07:33] <kyonko_> raxas, I can't seem to find anything related to machine language/code outside the early minicomputers and first generation cpu's?
[16:07:47] <kyonko_> oh yeah.... MACHINE LANGUAGE FOR CALCULATORS
[16:09:09] <raxas> "Forth" is your historical missing link between machine languages and programming languages
[16:09:49] <raxas> the first rule of coding is: Know your machine.
[16:10:15] <kyonko_> yes know your machine is easy when its wire wrapped
[16:10:36] <kyonko_> it aint easy turning 1's and 0's into pi
[16:10:52] <kyonko_> but its the only way to do pi outside the..... petascale cerebral cortex
[16:11:49] <kyonko_> we were supposed to do binary math as kids, but it got cancelled because the cold war ended
[16:12:01] <kyonko_> they already had the momentum regarding the internet in 1994 tho
[16:12:18] <raxas> you can do pi many ways. in stone, like ancients did. see baroque voluta for example. hypebolic funcions
[16:12:49] <raxas> 0s and 1s are overrated
[16:13:14] <kyonko_> 0s and 1s give me up to 6.0MBps on hughes spaceway
[16:13:22] <kyonko_> (in the middle of nowhere)
[16:13:34] <kyonko_> well, not exactly middle of nowhere, I live between an autobahn and a rail road
[16:13:39] <kyonko_> (the road road follows the autobahn)
[16:13:46] <kyonko_> paralel
[16:13:52] <kyonko_> coaxial?
[16:14:25] <raxas> we could live much better lives now if tech computers used the balanced ternary arithmetic, -1, 0, 1 instead of binary. and ternary logic.
[16:14:45] <kyonko_> uh huh
[16:14:53] <kyonko_> and necessity in the future will have "funny guns"
[16:15:03] <raxas> now everything is broken by goedel and turing. both were madmen
[16:16:09] <kyonko_> every man must know how to knap flint and program a microprocessor
[16:17:42] <kyonko_> I saw some guy get some industrial 486 computer working on an ISA/PCI backplane (these would really make everything easier, i recall)
[16:17:53] <kyonko_> i486 pc on an ISA card
[16:18:22] <kyonko_> tl;dr i486 100 mhz dx4 sucks ass without 3d video card
[16:19:13] <kyonko_> i must have been a real stupid kid to be happy with 320x240
[16:19:28] <kyonko_> (i must have been a real stupid adult to be happy with 320x240 youtube videos also)
[16:20:25] <kyonko_> i actually love listening to weak radio signals full of static
[16:20:53] <kyonko_> it means you are catching a photon before it goes back to where it came from
[16:21:45] <t3> background noise is a whole genre nowadays
[16:24:31] <AzumaHazuki> i'm 5'10" and under 130 pounds. how in the hell am i fat?
[16:25:52] <kyonko_> you were so fat you were talking about dinitrophenol
[16:26:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Create Quantum Microscope That Can See the Impossible - https://sylnt.us
[16:27:30] <AzumaHazuki> did you forget your antipsychotics again or something?
[16:28:49] * kyonko_ imagines a very witchy look AzumaHazuki nurse chasing me around the hospital with a needle of fatphil's "dog killer"
[16:29:10] <AzumaHazuki> you'd be more likely to get haloperidol or olanzapine
[16:29:20] <kyonko_> oh i'll never forget all the fucking brouhaha a few years ago over the lack of death pentaly meds
[16:29:47] <kyonko_> you have to knock out anyone who needs critical surgical intervention anyway
[16:29:53] <kyonko_> or just immobilize them
[16:30:11] <kyonko_> but you never hear a dentist use curare
[16:30:38] * AzumaHazuki wonders why the death penalty doesn't just use fentanyl
[16:30:57] <kyonko_> because its a big deal in the minds of the sheep
[16:31:11] <kyonko_> I took the 2009 presidential campaign death panels very seriously
[16:31:34] <kyonko_> its been a real long time since i've thought of curare
[16:31:50] <kyonko_> i only recalled it because its got "cure" in it
[16:32:29] <kyonko_> the sheep like to believe that doctors can't kill, especially since they deliver modern human babies
[16:33:11] <raxas> actually, doctors kill more people than soldiers do, for many decades already
[16:34:53] <raxas> humanity has a caste problem, for millenia. no equality in any society, ever. only privileges and powers
[16:35:44] <kyonko_> yeah
[16:35:47] <kyonko_> how is this in prague?
[16:36:16] <kyonko_> my great grandfather was totally apeshit over caste
[16:37:03] <Runaway1956> Caste is pretty meaningless. Almost no one is equal to me.
[16:37:32] <Runaway1956> All the untermenschen scrambling for position, and none of them my equal.
[16:38:08] <Runaway1956> Which explains why I am so contemptuous of "royalty".
[16:38:09] <kyonko_> ok mr mccoy
[16:38:24] <kyonko_> good thing you never had a hatfield near you
[16:38:54] <Runaway1956> Hatfields and McCoys are just british royalty without any money
[16:40:03] <kyonko_> https://en.wikipedia.org
[16:40:04] <systemd> ^ 03Hatfield–McCoy feud - Wikipedia
[16:40:13] <kyonko_> this is a daily thing in mexico
[16:40:19] <kyonko_> also in brazil
[16:40:24] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I read about them years ago, lol
[16:40:37] <kyonko_> in brazil it usually starts with someone tossing a poisoned meat over your compound's wall
[16:40:57] <kyonko_> you have to train your dogs to never eat anything except from the dog handler
[16:41:10] <kyonko_> in other words, just buy a schutzhund
[16:41:35] <kyonko_> the biggest problem in latin america is when your kids hit reproductive age
[16:41:47] <kyonko_> military aged males in heat
[16:41:55] <Runaway1956> They try to hump the dogs?
[16:42:18] <kyonko_> don't you love it when a dog rams its nose in your crotch?
[16:42:52] <Runaway1956> He's just trying to decide if you're healthy, and if you're fuckable
[16:44:39] <kyonko_> https://c8.alamy.com
[16:46:18] <kyonko_> may the demon be with you
[16:48:12] <kyonko_> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com
[16:48:29] <kyonko_> same font, but not a demon
[16:48:50] <kyonko_> they explicitly chose a demon for the strength of the athlete
[16:52:38] <kyonko_> still got 6 more months to go in 2021
[16:52:51] <kyonko_> we better not have nucular pearl harbor
[16:57:43] <Runaway1956> Isn't psyllum husk a hallucinagenic?
[16:57:55] <kyonko_> thats morning glory seed
[16:58:20] <Runaway1956> WTF is a psyllum?
[16:59:07] <Runaway1956> Maybe that's psylium?
[16:59:08] <t3> apparently the husk of plantain seeds
[16:59:49] <raxas> there were more dangerous physical weapons than nukes, before now recognized standard history
[17:00:40] <raxas> local ionospheric discharge to ground, initiated by a small device in stratosphere, for one example
[17:01:07] <raxas> even aliens are freaky about this one
[17:05:09] <t3> https://www.sciencedaily.com
[17:05:09] <systemd> ^ 03Artificial Lightning: Laser Triggers Electrical Activity In Thunderstorm For The First Time
[17:13:10] <t3> https://patents.google.com
[18:01:03] <kyonko_> the nukes are dangerous, because they produce fall out
[18:01:25] <requerdanos> that is not the primary danger of a nuclear weapon, to be honest.
[18:01:28] <kyonko_> (guns are also dangerous, they could explode taking away your dominant hand or blinding you or even killing you)
[18:02:03] <kyonko_> the right way to gun is getting a cheek weld on a rifle
[18:02:16] <kyonko_> don't flinch don't limp wrist
[18:03:01] <kyonko_> i'd sure like a nuclear weapon that doesn't produce fall out
[18:03:25] <kyonko_> i'd also like a gun that is 100% certain of never exploding (in the wrong way)
[18:03:45] <kyonko_> i'd like nitric acid to not be such a pain in the ass
[18:03:57] <kyonko_> i'd like steel not to have such a high melting point
[18:05:41] <kyonko_> can a hexagonal bore whitworth rifle take on an autonomous killer aerial drone?
[18:05:52] <kyonko_> ancient aliens experts say.......
[18:05:53] <kyonko_> yes
[18:12:57] <raxas> turkish military drones carry explosives, homing on people
[18:16:14] * raxas was hoping for autonomous sword
[18:16:19] <raxas> https://www.etsy.com
[18:16:21] <systemd> ^ 03Screamer model 1 Autonomous mobile sword Lizard robot Metal
[18:27:51] <raxas> concerning fat girls, https://www.vice.com
[18:27:53] <systemd> ^ 03Chinese State Media Just Tried to Fat-Shame Greta Thunberg
[18:28:12] <raxas> “Although she claims to be vegetarian, judging from the results of her growth, her carbon emissions are actually not low.” What a shame.
[18:28:28] <AzumaHazuki> a vegetarian diet won't necessarily slim you down. that's down to energy in/energy out
[18:28:43] <AzumaHazuki> you can eat 3000kcal of pasta a day and be vegetarian but you'll balloon up
[18:28:45] <raxas> https://www.menshealth.com
[18:28:47] <systemd> ^ 03Greta Thunberg Calls Out China for ‘Fat-Shaming’ Her in Article by State-Owned Newspaper
[18:37:53] <kyonko_> raxas, the cia already has a custom hellfire missile that flowers into a sword
[18:38:52] <kyonko_> explosives have a really hard time against mass, but i can imagine a quadrotor in the battlefield picking up and droping grenades untill stopped or destroyed
[18:39:40] <kyonko_> the most heinous terrorist attacks to date were the dolphinarium discotheque in israel and the peace rally in turkey
[18:40:42] <kyonko_> a drone crashing into an unshielding human is crazy enough
[18:41:10] <kyonko_> but drones are expensive and thus have to consider self preservation untill triggered not to
[18:42:33] <kyonko_> the 2013 boston marathon bombing was the first time and only time GORE was featured frontpage in MSM
[18:42:50] <raxas> I consider such kind of attacks harmful to programmable machines and that's not acceptable in my ethics
[18:43:27] <kyonko_> we got von neumann architecture going strong into AI, now its time for the self assembling machine to start
[18:44:23] <kyonko_> raxas, its a bit too late to do anything about the autonomous reaper and predator drones in operation since 2010's
[18:47:13] <raxas> I remember czech scouts from Prostějov unit hacked a predator or something in NATO excercises in early 2000's. it had crappy solaris operating on control workstations and unprotected communication protocol
[18:47:15] <kyonko_> or musk's conscious tesla
[18:48:05] <raxas> I could not stop laughing about it. and the same happened again in afghanistan several years later
[18:48:22] <kyonko_> remember the fake iranian flying wing drone they forced to land
[18:54:56] <kyonko_> wowzers, freezing fucked the flavor up of these frozen beef hotdogs
[18:56:34] <kyonko_> they taste more like cupcakes than anything else or donuts
[18:56:50] <kyonko_> lard lad donuts :)
[19:00:56] <kyonko_> bob belcher's burgers
[19:02:37] <raxas> "prison princess" https://www.rt.com
[19:03:41] <kyonko_> is this a russian thing?
[19:05:09] <kyonko_> what a strange civilization it would be that locks up girls at first menstruation and releases them after their last
[19:52:37] <kyonko_> https://apple.slashdot.org
[19:52:38] <systemd> ^ 03Apple Says Its New Logon Tech is as Easy as Passwords But Far More Secure - Slashdot
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[22:08:17] <kyonko_> oh shit!
[22:08:42] <Bytram> =g Kaopectate
[22:08:43] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Kaopectate - Wikipedia
[22:09:06] <kyonko_> I could go for some kaopectate
[22:09:33] <Bytram> I'm sure it will... pass
[22:10:21] <Bytram> ba-dum tish!
[22:12:15] <kyonko_> nah ate some bum frozen hot dogs
[22:12:40] <chromas> aren't all hot dogs bum hot dogs?
[22:12:43] <kyonko_> they tasted like gas station donuts
[22:12:49] <chromas> lips & assholes, as 'they' say
[22:12:52] * Bytram hope you ate them after they were thawed
[22:12:52] <kyonko_> no, not hebrew national
[22:13:14] <chromas> wasn't there a thing awhile back about hebrew national hot dogs not actually being kosher?
[22:13:24] <kyonko_> something off with the paprika they put in them
[22:13:29] <chromas> besides, they could still be sheep butts
[22:13:32] <kyonko_> they are NOT kosher
[22:13:43] <kyonko_> its for secular jews
[22:14:05] <chromas> Maybe that was it...implied kosherosity but not really
[22:14:20] <kyonko_> its funny how in covid19 in israel, the secular jews locked down and the orthodox still crowded the wailing rock
[22:14:29] <kyonko_> nah chromas
[22:14:34] <kyonko_> its the delictassen heritage
[22:14:53] <kyonko_> you went to a big city deli, you either got jew owned kosher, or... uh.... christian?
[22:15:16] <kyonko_> thats where you got your kielbasa and shit
[22:15:30] <kyonko_> altho thats more of a FatPhil thing
[22:16:10] <kyonko_> secular jews don't go to temple
[22:16:40] <kyonko_> but they do do bar mitzvah and the baby peepee thing
[22:16:53] <kyonko_> and when they die, they get a casket at temple
[22:17:50] <kyonko_> I dont boycott kosher symbol food
[22:17:56] <kyonko_> even mexican food is kosher
[22:18:04] <kyonko_> like... from mexico itself
[22:18:26] <kyonko_> been a while since I've seen mexican jews with their skull caps
[22:31:31] <FatPhil> nope, you're wrong
[22:32:36] <raxas> kyonko_: ever heard about giants in mexico? I mean, those above 3 to 6 meters in height, not just big people. six fingers too
[22:33:08] <FatPhil> =yt nvMhPqg2jCo
[22:33:10] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Graham Central Station - Hair (04:56; 386,684 views; 👍4,848 👎71)
[22:33:16] <kyonko_> yeah but those giants are psychological constructions
[22:33:32] <FatPhil> listen to some good music for once in your life
[22:33:33] <kyonko_> and lots of people turn into babies
[22:33:37] <raxas> https://mexicounexplained.com
[22:33:38] <systemd> ^ 03Mexican Giants – Mexico Unexplained
[22:33:50] <kyonko_> I know a giant who works at a gas station
[22:34:18] <kyonko_> there is also a lot of micro women
[22:34:37] <kyonko_> 4 ft non-dwarf non-midget women
[22:35:05] <kyonko_> giants are like angel wings
[22:35:23] <kyonko_> if we all start as zygotes, then it all makes sense
[22:35:35] <raxas> also, Carlos Castaneda and his don Juan Matus magic was quite a popular thing here in previous decades
[22:35:35] <kyonko_> science explains the myth
[22:36:03] <kyonko_> there is some guy called "john milton" who hypnotises people and inserts biopsy needles into them
[22:42:10] <raxas> science is self-limiting. it cannot explain events which happen only once per universe. or twice. or thrice. result reproducibility requirement is a barrier to understand these rare events
[22:42:58] <raxas> funny enough, every human is such exactly irreproducible event
[22:45:36] <Bytram> kyonko_: [Citation Needed]
[22:46:41] <kyonko_> yeah i was just thinking about that raxas
[22:46:49] <kyonko_> I looked up hexadecimal in wikipedia
[22:47:07] <raxas> in compare to scientific paradigm, hacking completely escapes the reproducible science: single one breach is enough for reality change
[22:47:15] <raxas> it's just like magic
[22:47:20] <kyonko_> heh
[22:47:22] <kyonko_> a fluke
[22:47:29] <kyonko_> and fluke is a brand of measuring instruments
[22:47:33] <kyonko_> weird name
[22:47:39] <kyonko_> fluke oscilloscopes
[22:47:51] <Bytram> I thought flukes were found on aquatic creatures
[22:47:53] <kyonko_> been up for days waiting for the fluke.... can't blink
[22:51:21] <Bytram> to. to. bed.
[22:52:05] <kyonko_> https://i.ytimg.com
[22:52:13] <kyonko_> GENTLEMEN BEHOLD, THE NEW NEW MATH!
[22:52:42] <kyonko_> wouldn't the new new math be the old math of fibonacci?
[22:53:22] <kyonko_> the shape being drawn by the electron beam is totally new math tho
[22:53:22] <Bytram> that depends... how does it add up?
[22:54:23] <kyonko_> measuring everything is part of the old math, but the new math goes into measuring the 4th dimension
[22:54:45] <kyonko_> you have to measure the air pressure above the triangle drawn on the textbook
[22:55:21] <kyonko_> and we were also expected to do binary arithmatic in 1st grade and make LOGO draw on the apple II's
[22:55:32] <kyonko_> all coming out of counting to 100 daily in kindergarten
[22:55:40] <kyonko_> I know you guys are older than me
[22:56:37] <kyonko_> the child textbooks were very advanced, they had rays and line segments
[22:56:48] <kyonko_> really weird man
[22:57:23] <kyonko_> the school was under the governance of the NEA and NSF
[22:57:33] <kyonko_> there was another one like it, named after the space shuttle challenger
[22:58:46] <kyonko_> it was baby binary arithmatic obviously, it was going to dead end
[22:59:15] <kyonko_> oh and every kid WAS GOING TO READ. PERIOD.
[22:59:30] <kyonko_> every kid was GOING TO SPEAK CORRECTLY. SPEECH THERAPY!
[23:03:33] <Bytram> kyonko_: I appreciate your sharing here, but this is the #soylent channel and was not intended to be a single person's stream-of-consciousness blog. I have received complaints. Please notice, in the last 20 minutes, who has posted here and what they wrote. I'd ask you to compare that to other people's contributions to this channel.
[23:05:12] <Bytram> Am not saying don't share, not at all, but would suggest trying to moderate your contributions and try to stay more in line with how others share here.
[23:08:03] <raxas> for everyone, it's easy to issue the irc /ignore command on a nick, instead of woke complaints
[23:08:31] <requerdanos> /ignore causes confusion by only seeing part of the conversation. It's not a solution.
[23:09:40] <AzumaHazuki> ^ this
[23:10:00] <requerdanos> if people need to ignore you just to use the channel in peace, you're the problem.
[23:10:36] <Bytram> raxas: I appreciate that. I could also set my thresholds on the site to filter out lower-rated comments. I choose to view both "wide open" so I can keep an eye on things and address situations, knowledgeably, when they arise.
[23:12:13] <Bytram> requerdanos++
[23:12:13] <Bender> karma - requerdanos: 27
[23:18:27] <FatPhil> oh, come on - it's fun to hear only half of the conversation!
[23:18:59] <kyonko_> FatPhil, happened on facebook, when people got blocked or deactivated their accounts
[23:19:14] <kyonko_> or maybe some other reason, but it raised flags
[23:19:15] <Bytram> Like this? Ec[ho] Ec[ho] Ec[ho]
[23:19:34] <kyonko_> people into rtty love echo
[23:19:59] <kyonko_> there are a lot of mexican hams with the X callsign
[23:20:19] <FatPhil> I care nothing about anyone with a faecebook account
[23:20:29] <kyonko_> yeah, unfortunately thats where everyone is now
[23:20:47] <kyonko_> its the new business phone directory
[23:21:16] <kyonko_> i'll never forget the day the yellow pages went extinct
[23:21:54] <Bytram> kyonko_: In case it was not made clear, you have been officially asked to moderate your contributions to this channel which is SoylentNews' "front room" on IRC. Maybe you might want to start a channel of your own
[23:22:03] <FatPhil> n.p. Stanley Clarrk /School Days/
[23:24:41] <FatPhil> someone's gonna have to play some good music here
[23:25:35] <FatPhil> c0lo's gone remarkably silent/absent since buzz fucked off
[23:25:53] <FatPhil> it's almost as if they needed each other
[23:26:06] <Bytram> =yt sugar sugar the archies
[23:26:07] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Archies - Sugar, Sugar (Original 1969 Music Video) (03:03; 47,540,765 views; 👍386,844 👎9,330)
[23:26:40] <FatPhil> =yt yz7bxTBhtVo
[23:26:41] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Dream Theater - 6:00 (05:32; 326,886 views; 👍2,116 👎97)
[23:26:58] <FatPhil> I'm one step ahead of you ;)
[23:28:38] <Bytram> Hmmmm
[23:28:49] <Bytram> =yt I want candy
[23:28:50] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Bow Wow Wow - I Want Candy (02:54; 3,115,858 views; 👍29,493 👎1,214)
[23:29:05] <FatPhil> eight million and three notes ahead of you
[23:30:09] * Bytram tries to remember the name of the song
[23:30:15] <FatPhil> If you're unacustomed to good music, then there is a quick and simple solution
[23:30:31] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram: so what can we do about the "hurr hurr duh j00000z!' guy?
[23:30:32] <FatPhil> =yt liquid tension experiment full album
[23:30:32] <systemd> https://youtube.com - LTE — Liquid Tension Experiment (1998) [Full Album] (01:14:11; 1,027,665 views; 👍7,822 👎236)
[23:30:44] <Bytram> =yt classical gas
[23:30:45] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Mason Williams - Classical Gas - ORIGINAL STEREO VERSION (03:03; 7,706,164 views; 👍65,523 👎1,206)
[23:30:56] <Bytram> tbd
[23:31:38] <FatPhil> but it's not "jews" any more - he's so clever he uses a unicode character that looks the same
[23:31:47] <FatPhil> genieouse!
[23:31:52] <FatPhil> very stable
[23:32:37] <FatPhil> anyway, just downmod, and don't engage.
[23:32:46] <Bytram> Super? Just like Wyle E. Coyote!
[23:33:27] <requerdanos> Possible rephrase, Bytram: so what can we do about the "hurr hurr duh j00000z!' guy junking up this very IRC room?
[23:34:00] <FatPhil> ooooh - don't get me involved in that discussion...
[23:35:48] <Bytram> DFTT. Change the subject?
[23:39:43] <requerdanos> So, when someone bashes jews, just say something like "Say! I sure do like apples." ?
[23:40:37] <Bytram> I'm open to suggestions. I'm just a volunteer who is trying to help out here
[23:40:57] <AzumaHazuki> i mean here in chat, FatPhil
[23:41:47] <FatPhil> ah, OK, 'cos there's a tard dicking around with unicode on the website presently
[23:42:09] <requerdanos> perhaps a firm, policy-level acknowledgment that channel bans are the appropriate matching counter-tool?
[23:44:30] <AzumaHazuki> SN is dead. we lost too many good posters and we have too many trolls, fanatics, whackjobs, and Runaway
[23:44:49] <kyonko_> You can't get rid of Runaway1956 it would be unamerican
[23:45:19] <kyonko_> Just because the 20th century happened doesn't mean the US Constitution is obsolete
[23:45:36] <requerdanos> I concur.
[23:46:00] <FatPhil> r1999's not the problem
[23:46:42] <FatPhil> too many INT9 A/C's are the problem
[23:47:35] <AzumaHazuki> i mean the site is dead because it's choked on its own metabolic waste
[23:47:39] <Bytram> Imagine what the site could be like if even 1% of the visitors made a non-bot submission per week.
[23:47:59] <FatPhil> Things were fine when the ACs could average INT12, but the retards have come and invaded, and discussions dies because they are incapable of such skills
[23:48:01] <AzumaHazuki> but there's no incentive because the good posters are mostly gone
[23:48:02] <Bytram> Instead of complaining, do something positive.
[23:48:16] <Bytram> submiy good storiea
[23:48:21] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram, there comes a time when the labors of Heracles become the labors of Sisyphus
[23:48:34] <Bytram> * .submit good stories
[23:48:34] <FatPhil> twice a day
[23:49:52] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: And you continue to complain... how many stories could you have contributed, instead, if you had put even a fraction of your efforts there, instead?
[23:50:21] * Bytram is trying to push out stories atm
[23:50:27] <AzumaHazuki> good question. probably not all that many, because i'm starting to think this is a Sisyphean task
[23:50:38] <Bytram> and slept poorly last night
[23:50:39] <FatPhil> what was the final vote on my asteroid comment?
[23:50:44] <AzumaHazuki> the experiment failed, and it failed for the reasons I and others warned the staff of
[23:50:58] <raxas> =submit https://russtrat.ru
[23:51:01] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Deep State Has Begun Dismantling the American Civilisational Code" (41p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:51:07] <raxas> real good stories are tough
[23:51:29] <FatPhil> would you rather have stories about deep state or deep purple?
[23:51:49] <Bytram> if you do not have something positive to contribute... why do you persist in complaining? I'm starting to think that you actually enjoy complaining.
[23:51:49] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[23:51:52] <systemd> ^ 03Deep Purple - Fireball (TV Performance, 1971)
[23:52:01] <Bytram> =yt purple haze
[23:52:02] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Purple Haze (Audio) (02:53; 9,229,055 views; 👍148,014 👎5,802)
[23:52:15] <requerdanos> I don't suppose there's a deep purple state?
[23:52:51] <Bytram> nah, more like fuchsia, maybe?
[23:52:54] <AzumaHazuki> i'm starting to think it's naptime, Bytram
[23:53:34] <Bytram> yeah, I'm knackered any hanging around here is not helping
[23:53:40] <raxas> deep purple is mostly harmless. deep state... not so much harmless
[23:53:41] <AzumaHazuki> so get some sleep
[23:54:06] <Bytram> well, we do need some more stories in the queue to make it through to morning
[23:54:15] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[23:54:17] <systemd> ^ 03Led Zeppelin - Dazed and Confused (London 1969 Live Good Quality)
[23:54:38] <Bytram> and while I am chatting here, it takes time from what I could be putting yowards getting stories out
[23:55:44] <Bytram> FatPhil: requerdanos: chromas: et. al. please keep an eye on things here for me
[23:55:55] <FatPhil> doood, it's 3am!
[23:55:59] <Bytram> laters
[23:56:13] <Bytram> FatPhil: go to sleep!
[23:56:23] <FatPhil> i would try my best, but it's useless!
[23:56:24] <Bytram> my bad
[23:56:30] <FatPhil> g.f still working
[23:56:37] <FatPhil> weekend deadline
[23:56:54] <FatPhil> arsehole client
[23:56:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - India has More than 28,000 "Black Fungus" Cases: Health Minister - https://sylnt.us
[23:57:01] <Bytram> well, then keep an eye on the channel =;)
[23:57:10] <FatPhil> :)
[23:57:32] <FatPhil> I can pump crap music to the chan, that should shut everyone up!
[23:57:36] <Bytram> hope you got a chuckle, and may you also soon find resat
[23:57:41] <Bytram> *rest
[23:57:47] <Bytram> laters!
[23:57:56] <FatPhil> Shove some welsh music up your ear-holes: https://www.youtube.com
[23:57:58] <systemd> ^ 03BUDGIE Breadfan Live
[23:59:02] <raxas> =submit https://asia.nikkei.com
[23:59:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Nikkei Asia" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org