#soylent | Logs for 2021-06-11

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[23:59:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Nikkei Asia" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:59:02] <raxas> =submit https://asia.nikkei.com
[23:57:58] <systemd> ^ 03BUDGIE Breadfan Live
[23:57:56] <FatPhil> Shove some welsh music up your ear-holes: https://www.youtube.com
[23:57:47] <Bytram> laters!
[23:57:41] <Bytram> *rest
[23:57:36] <Bytram> hope you got a chuckle, and may you also soon find resat
[23:57:32] <FatPhil> I can pump crap music to the chan, that should shut everyone up!
[23:57:10] <FatPhil> :)
[23:57:01] <Bytram> well, then keep an eye on the channel =;)
[23:56:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - India has More than 28,000 "Black Fungus" Cases: Health Minister - https://sylnt.us
[23:56:54] <FatPhil> arsehole client
[23:56:37] <FatPhil> weekend deadline
[23:56:30] <FatPhil> g.f still working
[23:56:24] <Bytram> my bad
[23:56:23] <FatPhil> i would try my best, but it's useless!
[23:56:13] <Bytram> FatPhil: go to sleep!
[23:55:59] <Bytram> laters
[23:55:55] <FatPhil> doood, it's 3am!
[23:55:44] <Bytram> FatPhil: requerdanos: chromas: et. al. please keep an eye on things here for me
[23:54:38] <Bytram> and while I am chatting here, it takes time from what I could be putting yowards getting stories out
[23:54:17] <systemd> ^ 03Led Zeppelin - Dazed and Confused (London 1969 Live Good Quality)
[23:54:15] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[23:54:06] <Bytram> well, we do need some more stories in the queue to make it through to morning
[23:53:41] <AzumaHazuki> so get some sleep
[23:53:40] <raxas> deep purple is mostly harmless. deep state... not so much harmless
[23:53:34] <Bytram> yeah, I'm knackered any hanging around here is not helping
[23:52:54] <AzumaHazuki> i'm starting to think it's naptime, Bytram
[23:52:51] <Bytram> nah, more like fuchsia, maybe?
[23:52:15] <requerdanos> I don't suppose there's a deep purple state?
[23:52:02] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Purple Haze (Audio) (02:53; 9,229,055 views; 👍148,014 👎5,802)
[23:52:01] <Bytram> =yt purple haze
[23:51:52] <systemd> ^ 03Deep Purple - Fireball (TV Performance, 1971)
[23:51:49] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[23:51:49] <Bytram> if you do not have something positive to contribute... why do you persist in complaining? I'm starting to think that you actually enjoy complaining.
[23:51:29] <FatPhil> would you rather have stories about deep state or deep purple?
[23:51:07] <raxas> real good stories are tough
[23:51:01] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Deep State Has Begun Dismantling the American Civilisational Code" (41p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:50:58] <raxas> =submit https://russtrat.ru
[23:50:44] <AzumaHazuki> the experiment failed, and it failed for the reasons I and others warned the staff of
[23:50:39] <FatPhil> what was the final vote on my asteroid comment?
[23:50:38] <Bytram> and slept poorly last night
[23:50:27] <AzumaHazuki> good question. probably not all that many, because i'm starting to think this is a Sisyphean task
[23:50:21] * Bytram is trying to push out stories atm
[23:49:52] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: And you continue to complain... how many stories could you have contributed, instead, if you had put even a fraction of your efforts there, instead?
[23:48:34] <FatPhil> twice a day
[23:48:34] <Bytram> * .submit good stories
[23:48:21] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram, there comes a time when the labors of Heracles become the labors of Sisyphus
[23:48:16] <Bytram> submiy good storiea
[23:48:02] <Bytram> Instead of complaining, do something positive.
[23:48:01] <AzumaHazuki> but there's no incentive because the good posters are mostly gone
[23:47:59] <FatPhil> Things were fine when the ACs could average INT12, but the retards have come and invaded, and discussions dies because they are incapable of such skills
[23:47:39] <Bytram> Imagine what the site could be like if even 1% of the visitors made a non-bot submission per week.
[23:47:35] <AzumaHazuki> i mean the site is dead because it's choked on its own metabolic waste
[23:46:42] <FatPhil> too many INT9 A/C's are the problem
[23:46:00] <FatPhil> r1999's not the problem
[23:45:36] <requerdanos> I concur.
[23:45:19] <kyonko_> Just because the 20th century happened doesn't mean the US Constitution is obsolete
[23:44:49] <kyonko_> You can't get rid of Runaway1956 it would be unamerican
[23:44:30] <AzumaHazuki> SN is dead. we lost too many good posters and we have too many trolls, fanatics, whackjobs, and Runaway
[23:42:09] <requerdanos> perhaps a firm, policy-level acknowledgment that channel bans are the appropriate matching counter-tool?
[23:41:47] <FatPhil> ah, OK, 'cos there's a tard dicking around with unicode on the website presently
[23:40:57] <AzumaHazuki> i mean here in chat, FatPhil
[23:40:37] <Bytram> I'm open to suggestions. I'm just a volunteer who is trying to help out here
[23:39:43] <requerdanos> So, when someone bashes jews, just say something like "Say! I sure do like apples." ?
[23:35:48] <Bytram> DFTT. Change the subject?
[23:34:00] <FatPhil> ooooh - don't get me involved in that discussion...
[23:33:27] <requerdanos> Possible rephrase, Bytram: so what can we do about the "hurr hurr duh j00000z!' guy junking up this very IRC room?
[23:32:46] <Bytram> Super? Just like Wyle E. Coyote!
[23:32:37] <FatPhil> anyway, just downmod, and don't engage.
[23:31:52] <FatPhil> very stable
[23:31:47] <FatPhil> genieouse!
[23:31:38] <FatPhil> but it's not "jews" any more - he's so clever he uses a unicode character that looks the same
[23:30:56] <Bytram> tbd
[23:30:45] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Mason Williams - Classical Gas - ORIGINAL STEREO VERSION (03:03; 7,706,164 views; 👍65,523 👎1,206)
[23:30:44] <Bytram> =yt classical gas
[23:30:32] <systemd> https://youtube.com - LTE — Liquid Tension Experiment (1998) [Full Album] (01:14:11; 1,027,665 views; 👍7,822 👎236)
[23:30:32] <FatPhil> =yt liquid tension experiment full album
[23:30:31] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram: so what can we do about the "hurr hurr duh j00000z!' guy?
[23:30:15] <FatPhil> If you're unacustomed to good music, then there is a quick and simple solution
[23:30:09] * Bytram tries to remember the name of the song
[23:29:05] <FatPhil> eight million and three notes ahead of you
[23:28:50] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Bow Wow Wow - I Want Candy (02:54; 3,115,858 views; 👍29,493 👎1,214)
[23:28:49] <Bytram> =yt I want candy
[23:28:38] <Bytram> Hmmmm
[23:26:58] <FatPhil> I'm one step ahead of you ;)
[23:26:41] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Dream Theater - 6:00 (05:32; 326,886 views; 👍2,116 👎97)
[23:26:40] <FatPhil> =yt yz7bxTBhtVo
[23:26:07] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Archies - Sugar, Sugar (Original 1969 Music Video) (03:03; 47,540,765 views; 👍386,844 👎9,330)
[23:26:06] <Bytram> =yt sugar sugar the archies
[23:25:53] <FatPhil> it's almost as if they needed each other
[23:25:35] <FatPhil> c0lo's gone remarkably silent/absent since buzz fucked off
[23:24:41] <FatPhil> someone's gonna have to play some good music here
[23:22:03] <FatPhil> n.p. Stanley Clarrk /School Days/
[23:21:54] <Bytram> kyonko_: In case it was not made clear, you have been officially asked to moderate your contributions to this channel which is SoylentNews' "front room" on IRC. Maybe you might want to start a channel of your own
[23:21:16] <kyonko_> i'll never forget the day the yellow pages went extinct
[23:20:47] <kyonko_> its the new business phone directory
[23:20:29] <kyonko_> yeah, unfortunately thats where everyone is now
[23:20:19] <FatPhil> I care nothing about anyone with a faecebook account
[23:19:59] <kyonko_> there are a lot of mexican hams with the X callsign
[23:19:34] <kyonko_> people into rtty love echo
[23:19:15] <Bytram> Like this? Ec[ho] Ec[ho] Ec[ho]
[23:19:14] <kyonko_> or maybe some other reason, but it raised flags
[23:18:59] <kyonko_> FatPhil, happened on facebook, when people got blocked or deactivated their accounts
[23:18:27] <FatPhil> oh, come on - it's fun to hear only half of the conversation!
[23:12:13] <Bender> karma - requerdanos: 27
[23:12:13] <Bytram> requerdanos++
[23:10:36] <Bytram> raxas: I appreciate that. I could also set my thresholds on the site to filter out lower-rated comments. I choose to view both "wide open" so I can keep an eye on things and address situations, knowledgeably, when they arise.
[23:10:00] <requerdanos> if people need to ignore you just to use the channel in peace, you're the problem.
[23:09:40] <AzumaHazuki> ^ this
[23:08:31] <requerdanos> /ignore causes confusion by only seeing part of the conversation. It's not a solution.
[23:08:03] <raxas> for everyone, it's easy to issue the irc /ignore command on a nick, instead of woke complaints
[23:05:12] <Bytram> Am not saying don't share, not at all, but would suggest trying to moderate your contributions and try to stay more in line with how others share here.
[23:03:33] <Bytram> kyonko_: I appreciate your sharing here, but this is the #soylent channel and was not intended to be a single person's stream-of-consciousness blog. I have received complaints. Please notice, in the last 20 minutes, who has posted here and what they wrote. I'd ask you to compare that to other people's contributions to this channel.
[22:59:30] <kyonko_> every kid was GOING TO SPEAK CORRECTLY. SPEECH THERAPY!
[22:59:15] <kyonko_> oh and every kid WAS GOING TO READ. PERIOD.
[22:58:46] <kyonko_> it was baby binary arithmatic obviously, it was going to dead end
[22:57:33] <kyonko_> there was another one like it, named after the space shuttle challenger
[22:57:23] <kyonko_> the school was under the governance of the NEA and NSF
[22:56:48] <kyonko_> really weird man
[22:56:37] <kyonko_> the child textbooks were very advanced, they had rays and line segments
[22:55:40] <kyonko_> I know you guys are older than me
[22:55:32] <kyonko_> all coming out of counting to 100 daily in kindergarten
[22:55:21] <kyonko_> and we were also expected to do binary arithmatic in 1st grade and make LOGO draw on the apple II's
[22:54:45] <kyonko_> you have to measure the air pressure above the triangle drawn on the textbook
[22:54:23] <kyonko_> measuring everything is part of the old math, but the new math goes into measuring the 4th dimension
[22:53:22] <Bytram> that depends... how does it add up?
[22:53:22] <kyonko_> the shape being drawn by the electron beam is totally new math tho
[22:52:42] <kyonko_> wouldn't the new new math be the old math of fibonacci?
[22:52:13] <kyonko_> GENTLEMEN BEHOLD, THE NEW NEW MATH!
[22:52:05] <kyonko_> https://i.ytimg.com
[22:51:21] <Bytram> to. to. bed.
[22:47:53] <kyonko_> been up for days waiting for the fluke.... can't blink
[22:47:51] <Bytram> I thought flukes were found on aquatic creatures
[22:47:39] <kyonko_> fluke oscilloscopes
[22:47:33] <kyonko_> weird name
[22:47:29] <kyonko_> and fluke is a brand of measuring instruments
[22:47:22] <kyonko_> a fluke
[22:47:20] <kyonko_> heh
[22:47:15] <raxas> it's just like magic
[22:47:07] <raxas> in compare to scientific paradigm, hacking completely escapes the reproducible science: single one breach is enough for reality change
[22:46:49] <kyonko_> I looked up hexadecimal in wikipedia
[22:46:41] <kyonko_> yeah i was just thinking about that raxas
[22:45:36] <Bytram> kyonko_: [Citation Needed]
[22:42:58] <raxas> funny enough, every human is such exactly irreproducible event
[22:42:10] <raxas> science is self-limiting. it cannot explain events which happen only once per universe. or twice. or thrice. result reproducibility requirement is a barrier to understand these rare events
[22:36:03] <kyonko_> there is some guy called "john milton" who hypnotises people and inserts biopsy needles into them
[22:35:35] <kyonko_> science explains the myth
[22:35:35] <raxas> also, Carlos Castaneda and his don Juan Matus magic was quite a popular thing here in previous decades
[22:35:23] <kyonko_> if we all start as zygotes, then it all makes sense
[22:35:05] <kyonko_> giants are like angel wings
[22:34:37] <kyonko_> 4 ft non-dwarf non-midget women
[22:34:18] <kyonko_> there is also a lot of micro women
[22:33:50] <kyonko_> I know a giant who works at a gas station
[22:33:38] <systemd> ^ 03Mexican Giants – Mexico Unexplained
[22:33:37] <raxas> https://mexicounexplained.com
[22:33:33] <kyonko_> and lots of people turn into babies
[22:33:32] <FatPhil> listen to some good music for once in your life
[22:33:16] <kyonko_> yeah but those giants are psychological constructions
[22:33:10] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Graham Central Station - Hair (04:56; 386,684 views; 👍4,848 👎71)
[22:33:08] <FatPhil> =yt nvMhPqg2jCo
[22:32:36] <raxas> kyonko_: ever heard about giants in mexico? I mean, those above 3 to 6 meters in height, not just big people. six fingers too
[22:31:31] <FatPhil> nope, you're wrong
[22:18:26] <kyonko_> been a while since I've seen mexican jews with their skull caps
[22:18:04] <kyonko_> like... from mexico itself
[22:17:56] <kyonko_> even mexican food is kosher
[22:17:50] <kyonko_> I dont boycott kosher symbol food
[22:16:53] <kyonko_> and when they die, they get a casket at temple
[22:16:40] <kyonko_> but they do do bar mitzvah and the baby peepee thing
[22:16:10] <kyonko_> secular jews don't go to temple
[22:15:30] <kyonko_> altho thats more of a FatPhil thing
[22:15:16] <kyonko_> thats where you got your kielbasa and shit
[22:14:53] <kyonko_> you went to a big city deli, you either got jew owned kosher, or... uh.... christian?
[22:14:34] <kyonko_> its the delictassen heritage
[22:14:29] <kyonko_> nah chromas
[22:14:20] <kyonko_> its funny how in covid19 in israel, the secular jews locked down and the orthodox still crowded the wailing rock
[22:14:05] <chromas> Maybe that was it...implied kosherosity but not really
[22:13:43] <kyonko_> its for secular jews
[22:13:32] <kyonko_> they are NOT kosher
[22:13:29] <chromas> besides, they could still be sheep butts
[22:13:24] <kyonko_> something off with the paprika they put in them
[22:13:14] <chromas> wasn't there a thing awhile back about hebrew national hot dogs not actually being kosher?
[22:12:52] <kyonko_> no, not hebrew national
[22:12:52] * Bytram hope you ate them after they were thawed
[22:12:49] <chromas> lips & assholes, as 'they' say
[22:12:43] <kyonko_> they tasted like gas station donuts
[22:12:40] <chromas> aren't all hot dogs bum hot dogs?
[22:12:15] <kyonko_> nah ate some bum frozen hot dogs
[22:10:21] <Bytram> ba-dum tish!
[22:09:33] <Bytram> I'm sure it will... pass
[22:09:06] <kyonko_> I could go for some kaopectate
[22:08:43] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Kaopectate - Wikipedia
[22:08:42] <Bytram> =g Kaopectate
[22:08:17] <kyonko_> oh shit!
[22:05:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Create Quantum Microscope that Can See the Impossible - https://sylnt.us || Amazon, EBay Fight Legislation that Would Unmask Third-Party Sellers - https://sylnt.us - bureaucracy
[21:57:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - No More Hidden Urls in Chrome - https://sylnt.us - www.or.not.to.www
[21:47:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon, EBay Fight Legislation That Would Unmask Third-Party Sellers - https://sylnt.us - bureaucracy
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[19:52:38] <systemd> ^ 03Apple Says Its New Logon Tech is as Easy as Passwords But Far More Secure - Slashdot
[19:52:37] <kyonko_> https://apple.slashdot.org
[19:05:09] <kyonko_> what a strange civilization it would be that locks up girls at first menstruation and releases them after their last
[19:03:41] <kyonko_> is this a russian thing?
[19:02:37] <raxas> "prison princess" https://www.rt.com
[19:00:56] <kyonko_> bob belcher's burgers
[18:56:50] <kyonko_> lard lad donuts :)
[18:56:34] <kyonko_> they taste more like cupcakes than anything else or donuts
[18:54:56] <kyonko_> wowzers, freezing fucked the flavor up of these frozen beef hotdogs
[18:48:22] <kyonko_> remember the fake iranian flying wing drone they forced to land
[18:48:05] <raxas> I could not stop laughing about it. and the same happened again in afghanistan several years later
[18:47:15] <kyonko_> or musk's conscious tesla
[18:47:13] <raxas> I remember czech scouts from Prostějov unit hacked a predator or something in NATO excercises in early 2000's. it had crappy solaris operating on control workstations and unprotected communication protocol
[18:44:23] <kyonko_> raxas, its a bit too late to do anything about the autonomous reaper and predator drones in operation since 2010's
[18:43:27] <kyonko_> we got von neumann architecture going strong into AI, now its time for the self assembling machine to start
[18:42:50] <raxas> I consider such kind of attacks harmful to programmable machines and that's not acceptable in my ethics
[18:42:33] <kyonko_> the 2013 boston marathon bombing was the first time and only time GORE was featured frontpage in MSM
[18:41:10] <kyonko_> but drones are expensive and thus have to consider self preservation untill triggered not to
[18:40:42] <kyonko_> a drone crashing into an unshielding human is crazy enough
[18:39:40] <kyonko_> the most heinous terrorist attacks to date were the dolphinarium discotheque in israel and the peace rally in turkey
[18:38:52] <kyonko_> explosives have a really hard time against mass, but i can imagine a quadrotor in the battlefield picking up and droping grenades untill stopped or destroyed
[18:37:53] <kyonko_> raxas, the cia already has a custom hellfire missile that flowers into a sword
[18:28:47] <systemd> ^ 03Greta Thunberg Calls Out China for ‘Fat-Shaming’ Her in Article by State-Owned Newspaper
[18:28:45] <raxas> https://www.menshealth.com
[18:28:43] <AzumaHazuki> you can eat 3000kcal of pasta a day and be vegetarian but you'll balloon up
[18:28:28] <AzumaHazuki> a vegetarian diet won't necessarily slim you down. that's down to energy in/energy out
[18:28:12] <raxas> “Although she claims to be vegetarian, judging from the results of her growth, her carbon emissions are actually not low.” What a shame.
[18:27:53] <systemd> ^ 03Chinese State Media Just Tried to Fat-Shame Greta Thunberg
[18:27:51] <raxas> concerning fat girls, https://www.vice.com
[18:16:21] <systemd> ^ 03Screamer model 1 Autonomous mobile sword Lizard robot Metal
[18:16:19] <raxas> https://www.etsy.com
[18:16:14] * raxas was hoping for autonomous sword
[18:12:57] <raxas> turkish military drones carry explosives, homing on people
[18:05:53] <kyonko_> yes
[18:05:52] <kyonko_> ancient aliens experts say.......
[18:05:41] <kyonko_> can a hexagonal bore whitworth rifle take on an autonomous killer aerial drone?
[18:03:57] <kyonko_> i'd like steel not to have such a high melting point
[18:03:45] <kyonko_> i'd like nitric acid to not be such a pain in the ass
[18:03:25] <kyonko_> i'd also like a gun that is 100% certain of never exploding (in the wrong way)
[18:03:01] <kyonko_> i'd sure like a nuclear weapon that doesn't produce fall out
[18:02:16] <kyonko_> don't flinch don't limp wrist
[18:02:03] <kyonko_> the right way to gun is getting a cheek weld on a rifle
[18:01:28] <kyonko_> (guns are also dangerous, they could explode taking away your dominant hand or blinding you or even killing you)
[18:01:25] <requerdanos> that is not the primary danger of a nuclear weapon, to be honest.
[18:01:03] <kyonko_> the nukes are dangerous, because they produce fall out
[17:13:10] <t3> https://patents.google.com
[17:05:09] <systemd> ^ 03Artificial Lightning: Laser Triggers Electrical Activity In Thunderstorm For The First Time
[17:05:09] <t3> https://www.sciencedaily.com
[17:01:07] <raxas> even aliens are freaky about this one
[17:00:40] <raxas> local ionospheric discharge to ground, initiated by a small device in stratosphere, for one example
[16:59:49] <raxas> there were more dangerous physical weapons than nukes, before now recognized standard history
[16:59:08] <t3> apparently the husk of plantain seeds
[16:59:07] <Runaway1956> Maybe that's psylium?
[16:58:20] <Runaway1956> WTF is a psyllum?
[16:57:55] <kyonko_> thats morning glory seed
[16:57:43] <Runaway1956> Isn't psyllum husk a hallucinagenic?
[16:52:51] <kyonko_> we better not have nucular pearl harbor
[16:52:38] <kyonko_> still got 6 more months to go in 2021
[16:48:50] <kyonko_> they explicitly chose a demon for the strength of the athlete
[16:48:29] <kyonko_> same font, but not a demon
[16:48:12] <kyonko_> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com
[16:46:18] <kyonko_> may the demon be with you
[16:44:39] <kyonko_> https://c8.alamy.com
[16:42:52] <Runaway1956> He's just trying to decide if you're healthy, and if you're fuckable
[16:42:18] <kyonko_> don't you love it when a dog rams its nose in your crotch?
[16:41:55] <Runaway1956> They try to hump the dogs?
[16:41:47] <kyonko_> military aged males in heat
[16:41:35] <kyonko_> the biggest problem in latin america is when your kids hit reproductive age
[16:41:10] <kyonko_> in other words, just buy a schutzhund
[16:40:57] <kyonko_> you have to train your dogs to never eat anything except from the dog handler
[16:40:37] <kyonko_> in brazil it usually starts with someone tossing a poisoned meat over your compound's wall
[16:40:24] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I read about them years ago, lol
[16:40:19] <kyonko_> also in brazil
[16:40:13] <kyonko_> this is a daily thing in mexico
[16:40:04] <systemd> ^ 03Hatfield–McCoy feud - Wikipedia
[16:40:03] <kyonko_> https://en.wikipedia.org
[16:38:54] <Runaway1956> Hatfields and McCoys are just british royalty without any money
[16:38:24] <kyonko_> good thing you never had a hatfield near you
[16:38:09] <kyonko_> ok mr mccoy
[16:38:08] <Runaway1956> Which explains why I am so contemptuous of "royalty".
[16:37:32] <Runaway1956> All the untermenschen scrambling for position, and none of them my equal.
[16:37:03] <Runaway1956> Caste is pretty meaningless. Almost no one is equal to me.
[16:36:16] <kyonko_> my great grandfather was totally apeshit over caste
[16:35:47] <kyonko_> how is this in prague?
[16:35:44] <kyonko_> yeah
[16:34:53] <raxas> humanity has a caste problem, for millenia. no equality in any society, ever. only privileges and powers
[16:33:11] <raxas> actually, doctors kill more people than soldiers do, for many decades already
[16:32:29] <kyonko_> the sheep like to believe that doctors can't kill, especially since they deliver modern human babies
[16:31:50] <kyonko_> i only recalled it because its got "cure" in it
[16:31:34] <kyonko_> its been a real long time since i've thought of curare
[16:31:11] <kyonko_> I took the 2009 presidential campaign death panels very seriously
[16:30:57] <kyonko_> because its a big deal in the minds of the sheep
[16:30:38] * AzumaHazuki wonders why the death penalty doesn't just use fentanyl
[16:30:11] <kyonko_> but you never hear a dentist use curare
[16:29:53] <kyonko_> or just immobilize them
[16:29:47] <kyonko_> you have to knock out anyone who needs critical surgical intervention anyway
[16:29:20] <kyonko_> oh i'll never forget all the fucking brouhaha a few years ago over the lack of death pentaly meds
[16:29:10] <AzumaHazuki> you'd be more likely to get haloperidol or olanzapine
[16:28:49] * kyonko_ imagines a very witchy look AzumaHazuki nurse chasing me around the hospital with a needle of fatphil's "dog killer"
[16:27:30] <AzumaHazuki> did you forget your antipsychotics again or something?
[16:26:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Create Quantum Microscope That Can See the Impossible - https://sylnt.us
[16:25:52] <kyonko_> you were so fat you were talking about dinitrophenol
[16:24:31] <AzumaHazuki> i'm 5'10" and under 130 pounds. how in the hell am i fat?
[16:21:45] <t3> background noise is a whole genre nowadays
[16:20:53] <kyonko_> it means you are catching a photon before it goes back to where it came from
[16:20:25] <kyonko_> i actually love listening to weak radio signals full of static
[16:19:28] <kyonko_> (i must have been a real stupid adult to be happy with 320x240 youtube videos also)
[16:19:13] <kyonko_> i must have been a real stupid kid to be happy with 320x240
[16:18:22] <kyonko_> tl;dr i486 100 mhz dx4 sucks ass without 3d video card
[16:17:53] <kyonko_> i486 pc on an ISA card
[16:17:42] <kyonko_> I saw some guy get some industrial 486 computer working on an ISA/PCI backplane (these would really make everything easier, i recall)
[16:16:09] <kyonko_> every man must know how to knap flint and program a microprocessor
[16:15:03] <raxas> now everything is broken by goedel and turing. both were madmen
[16:14:53] <kyonko_> and necessity in the future will have "funny guns"
[16:14:45] <kyonko_> uh huh
[16:14:25] <raxas> we could live much better lives now if tech computers used the balanced ternary arithmetic, -1, 0, 1 instead of binary. and ternary logic.
[16:13:52] <kyonko_> coaxial?
[16:13:46] <kyonko_> paralel
[16:13:39] <kyonko_> (the road road follows the autobahn)
[16:13:34] <kyonko_> well, not exactly middle of nowhere, I live between an autobahn and a rail road
[16:13:22] <kyonko_> (in the middle of nowhere)
[16:13:14] <kyonko_> 0s and 1s give me up to 6.0MBps on hughes spaceway
[16:12:49] <raxas> 0s and 1s are overrated
[16:12:18] <raxas> you can do pi many ways. in stone, like ancients did. see baroque voluta for example. hypebolic funcions
[16:12:01] <kyonko_> they already had the momentum regarding the internet in 1994 tho
[16:11:49] <kyonko_> we were supposed to do binary math as kids, but it got cancelled because the cold war ended
[16:10:52] <kyonko_> but its the only way to do pi outside the..... petascale cerebral cortex
[16:10:36] <kyonko_> it aint easy turning 1's and 0's into pi
[16:10:15] <kyonko_> yes know your machine is easy when its wire wrapped
[16:09:49] <raxas> the first rule of coding is: Know your machine.
[16:09:09] <raxas> "Forth" is your historical missing link between machine languages and programming languages
[16:07:47] <kyonko_> oh yeah.... MACHINE LANGUAGE FOR CALCULATORS
[16:07:33] <kyonko_> raxas, I can't seem to find anything related to machine language/code outside the early minicomputers and first generation cpu's?
[16:05:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03A Connectomic Study of a Petascale Fragment of Human Cerebral Cortex" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:05:52] <raxas> =submit https://www.biorxiv.org
[16:02:43] <kyonko_> AzumaHazuki is fat
[16:02:19] <kyonko_> there are a lot of strange human bodies out there
[16:02:09] <kyonko_> define fat
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[15:18:24] * Teckla consumes massive amounts of fiber for... reasons.
[15:17:51] <t3> adding a regular fiber supplement dropped 10 pounds over a few months for me with no other changes
[15:17:08] <Teckla> If you're hungry almost all the time, you're doing it right.
[15:16:51] <Teckla> Requires a lot of willpower.
[15:16:48] <Teckla> I've lost weight before, and I know the secret: basically, starve yourself.
[15:16:20] <Teckla> Just started dieting yesterday, hoping to lose 5-10 pounds. That's about 2.3-4.5 kg for our friends that don't use Freedom Units.
[15:15:07] <Teckla> I'm also fat, stupid, and ugly!
[15:14:54] <Teckla> FatPhil: Hey, fellow 50-something guy! :)
[14:59:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5568
[14:59:13] <Teckla> coffee++
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[14:38:36] <kyonko_> and who is into tld's no anyway, everyone is on facebook
[14:38:27] <kyonko_> they have a lot in cyrillic
[14:38:16] <t3> these new tld's are just ridiculous, such a stupid money grab
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[14:22:50] <kyonko_> my snitchphone
[14:22:47] <kyonko_> and my obamaphone
[14:22:44] <kyonko_> trump never touched my obamacare
[14:22:11] <kyonko_> I think obamacare is ok, if you aren't stupid only
[14:21:51] <kyonko_> tried to look up machine language/code and all I could get was the first generation CPU's
[14:21:47] <FatPhil> don't talk about health care, I'm angry at the idiocy I've just encountered
[14:20:54] <kyonko_> its not just mexicans rolling in each others blood
[14:20:35] <kyonko_> and celebrities in their 50's and having kids from frozen ovums
[14:19:57] <kyonko_> here they euthanize you if you show up at the ER without a history of primary care
[14:19:34] <kyonko_> do you have primary care physician?
[14:19:24] <FatPhil> still as fat, stupid, and ugly, I was hoping that would all change.
[14:18:44] <FatPhil> nah, hit the big 50 a few months back.
[14:15:27] <kyonko_> "I fucking love science"
[14:15:23] <kyonko_> when i got on facebook i discovered something called "IFL" existed
[14:11:49] <janrinok> is FP only a youngster then...?
[14:11:47] <kyonko_> the cats chow down fine with an ant filled bowl
[14:11:26] <janrinok> .... thank God - it was giving me a headache
[14:11:20] <kyonko_> aren't you 60 FatPhil
[14:11:09] <FatPhil> I think tedious friday's run out, time for fun friday.
[14:11:08] <kyonko_> just like bees sacrifice themselves for the hive
[14:11:01] <kyonko_> i'm pretty sure ants are designed by evolution to die
[14:10:42] <systemd> ^ 03The Never-Aging Ants With a Terrible Secret
[14:10:41] <t3> https://www.theatlantic.com
[14:10:33] <SedBot> <FatPhil> Are men's turmoil and women's turmoil different events still, or have they been merged?
[14:10:33] <FatPhil> s/this //
[14:10:27] <kyonko_> then there was always that international news of the next of kin of the imprisoned in latin american forming long lines to go see when the whole prison kills each other, or is set ablaze onto a hell on earth
[14:10:23] <FatPhil> Are men's turmoil and women's turmoil different events this still, or have they been merged?
[14:06:38] <kyonko_> much turmoil these olympics
[14:06:25] <kyonko_> *cough* 2020
[14:06:21] <kyonko_> its all by design to chew you up and spit you in a mass grave
[14:06:10] <kyonko_> you just can't compete "dope" free
[14:05:56] <kyonko_> and if you run a factory, you are a fool if you don't hire drug users and then deny it
[14:05:21] <kyonko_> lemurs, lol
[14:05:05] <kyonko_> because UN human rights say drug cartels can not be tapped in latin america
[14:04:58] <FatPhil> Matt Blaze rocks
[14:04:49] <kyonko_> the clipper chip turned out to be some serious bullshit in the end
[14:04:48] <FatPhil> That depends on what your universe of discourse is.
[14:04:25] <t3> I always thought monkeys and apes were distinguished by whether or not they have a tail
[14:03:45] <systemd> ^ 03Definition of MONKEY
[14:03:43] <FatPhil> https://www.merriam-webster.com
[14:03:24] <FatPhil> How would our ancestor not be a "monkey" by that definition?
[14:03:09] <FatPhil> Monkey: "a nonhuman primate mammal with the exception usually of the lemurs and tarsiers"
[14:00:10] <kyonko_> I like to say "monkeys" because, well capuchin monkeys are cute
[13:57:01] <Teckla> Humans didn't "come from monkeys," we have a common ancestor with monkeys.
[13:56:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hackers Steal Wealth of Data from Game Giant EA - https://sylnt.us - it's-only-a-game...of-cat-and-mouse
[13:55:52] <FatPhil> which also tells me that it doesn't really matter who's in power.
[13:55:41] <FatPhil> which tells me that it was being worked on before he came to power.
[13:55:25] <FatPhil> the attempt to curb freedom became clear when Clinton tried to push through the Clipper chip within months of coming into power.
[13:51:24] <kyonko_> too convenient in a time table
[13:50:56] <kyonko_> before the FINAL LOCKDOWN in canada becase "corona virus", a civilian disguised his car and himself like a cop and went on a ride shooting people on the street
[13:50:23] <kyonko_> there is no bigger jester than trudeau
[13:49:56] <t3> in representative democracy, elected officials most important role is that of the jester, distracting people from the structures and systems that are not accountable to the voters
[13:49:54] <kyonko_> this was way before 911 and the patriot act and the nsa in 2007
[13:45:59] <kyonko_> joe biden made everything illegal back in 1994
[13:45:43] <kyonko_> who is joe the punching bag for?
[13:45:03] <kyonko_> the united states before the bond villians made their moves, had serious revolutionary greivances akin the martin luther's reformation
[13:44:23] <t3> better to keep her baackground and let joe be the punching bag
[13:44:18] <kyonko_> harris was actually a bonafide bitch
[13:43:51] <t3> harris is black and a cop/lawyer, some of the most hated groups for americans
[13:42:07] <kyonko_> POTUS
[13:42:03] <kyonko_> because big data said biden should be P
[13:41:51] <kyonko_> biden is obviously unfit to govern.... so why did harris end up the VP
[13:40:54] <kyonko_> the fact is, I come from monkeys
[13:40:14] <inz> Yeah, when your opinions are wrong, you need to ignore the facts.
[13:40:05] <kyonko_> reality is, either you chose to associate with majority flat earth, young earth, creationists, or you and your family become loner shut-ins
[13:39:16] <inz> I'd say good laughs, but the concept is so terrifying, that they're not even good
[13:39:16] <kyonko_> he had no choice really
[13:39:11] <kyonko_> trump played the anti-science game hard
[13:38:55] <kyonko_> and only fools go out to peep
[13:38:51] <inz> Trump gave me nothing, but bad laughs
[13:38:38] <kyonko_> i'm not sure how bad it really got, there really isn't a bestgore website for bleach drinkers
[13:37:04] <kyonko_> they just back tracked on their open borders
[13:36:40] <kyonko_> i kamala was going to get into the white house in the end, why didn't they make her president elect?
[13:35:49] <kyonko_> at least trump gave you freedom
[13:35:14] <inz> At least in trumpikiztan
[13:35:05] <inz> Yeah, bleach jabs are the way to go.
[13:31:53] <kyonko_> its the pits against hussein
[13:31:48] <kyonko_> remember, vinegar and bleach
[13:31:43] <kyonko_> because botulism
[12:50:17] <inz> The WD-40 of health care
[12:48:25] <FatPhil> no harm a shot of cask-strength whisky can't cure
[12:43:51] <FatPhil> cross-contamination *avoidance*, that is
[12:43:31] <FatPhil> Yeah. Fortunately I have different toothbrushes for different household chores of varying levels of horror and cross-contamination, and this was the least distateful of the cleaning jobs. So I'm gonna risk it.
[12:42:00] <inz> Soo... You pranked yourself?
[12:39:36] <FatPhil> Oh, shit of shits. I just did some delicate little cleaning jobs in the bathroom, and as I put the brush back where it belongs, I noticed there already was a brush there. I just used my toothbrush :(
[12:08:39] <Runaway1956> some brands have no relationship to the pictures on the package
[12:08:18] <Runaway1956> I'm learning all over again that I want to read the label of foods I'm unfamiliar with
[12:06:53] <Runaway1956> Drive-thru food is mostly healthier than some of the frozen messes my wife brings home from the store.
[12:05:45] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: but that was surely the ultimate drive-thru food?
[12:04:22] <Ellenor> a bit uncomfortable
[12:02:13] <Ellenor> I've had non-painful events there when consuming unemulsified fat
[12:02:12] <Ellenor> and yee that sounds painful
[12:01:38] <Ellenor> teaching someone where it be
[11:56:41] <Runaway1956> not very big, just the point of the knife
[11:56:19] <Runaway1956> imagine a hot knife point lodged under there
[11:56:06] <Runaway1956> Find your lowest rib on the right, about halfway between center and right side, try to slip a finger under/behind it
[11:55:25] <Ellenor> oh
[11:55:19] <Runaway1956> I'm getting old - the gall bladder thing is a relatively recent development
[11:52:04] <Ellenor> well i mean i have a habit of giving my gallbladder a workout with every meal so I am not worried about having an issue digesting fat
[11:51:32] <Ellenor> huh
[11:51:30] <Ellenor> you're someone who can't digest fat
[11:51:25] <Ellenor> oh
[11:49:27] <Runaway1956> some of those store bought burritos are loaded with fat - my gall bladder lets me know about it
[11:49:02] <Runaway1956> Home made burritos aren't fatty
[11:48:51] <Ellenor> they're actually quite low in fat
[11:48:47] <Ellenor> the issue with the burrito isn't the fat
[11:48:33] <Runaway1956> I think I'll find something else for lunch FatPhil - even if it's another fat- loaded preprocessed burrito
[11:27:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Asteroid 16 Psyche Might Not be What Scientists Expected - https://sylnt.us - That's-no-moon
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[08:49:16] <inz> One serving contains 400000% RDA iron.
[08:48:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Member of FDA's Expert Panel Resigns Over Controversial Alzheimer's Therapy Approval - https://sylnt.us - I-quit!
[08:47:01] <FatPhil> Anyone fancy pasta carbanana for lunch? https://i.imgur.com
[08:45:03] <FatPhil> indeed. the potential is pretty scary.
[08:43:28] <inz> Large number in a large country is a problem too, but not due to the humanitarian reasons, but simply because it's a huge amount of entropy for mutation.
[08:40:23] <FatPhil> I think I'm being called out because in absolute terms the numbers look scary. But that's not how I do population statistics. I do them on a per-capita basis.
[08:39:33] <FatPhil> Well, that's the reason I said it, not the reason I'm being called out.
[08:38:35] <FatPhil> I just got called out for saying "CoVid in India ain't that much of a disaster". Because, erm, FUCK HAVE YOU SEEN EASTERN EUROPE!!!!!
[08:37:49] <inz> I guess you can easily find estonian anything
[08:37:28] <FatPhil> which is indeed what I'm doing.
[08:37:14] <FatPhil> And a czech, and a hungarian, for that matter, if we're cherry-picking places which have actually had a bad case of the wuflu.
[08:36:31] <FatPhil> I can beat that - I saw two belgian beers in the fridge this morning!
[08:35:51] <FatPhil> Actually, americans can answer that question too.
[08:35:43] <inz> I saw neigbour's groenendael belgian shepherd this morning, but it probably doesn't count.
[08:35:29] <FatPhil> Just wondering what the local mainstream news is like regarding world news and covid in India.
[08:34:00] <FatPhil> Do we have any czechs or belgians awake?
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[06:58:09] <FatPhil> https://www.kuvaton.com
[06:57:10] <FatPhil> E.g. despite what I said about history|tac earlier, I don't think that tar should have any compression options - that's what a pipe is for.
[06:56:22] <FatPhil> when I look at the manpage trying to find something simple, I'm shocked by how much irrelevant shit is polluting the programs.
[06:55:35] <FatPhil> total agreement there
[06:54:56] <inz> FatPhil, my assessment of GNU programs isn't that they would have too few features...
[06:53:38] <FatPhil> almost all my other shells are just repeated <up><up><up><return>
[06:53:06] <SedBot> <FatPhil> one of my only uses of old history now is just to pull up the command to play a vid from a series, and to edit the filename part to play the next episode.
[06:53:06] <FatPhil> s/history/old history/
[06:52:40] <FatPhil> one of my only uses of history now is just to pull up the command to play a vid from a series, and to edit the filename part to play the next episode.
[06:51:02] <FatPhil> absolutely
[06:47:26] <t3> I used to go to great lengths saving and logging the shell history until I realized that I almost never actually needed to go back more than 10 lines for anything that wasn't better off aliased or scripted
[06:33:13] <FatPhil> however, as I say, I rarely close windows, so I rarely lose anything
[06:32:15] <FatPhil> HISTFILE could be shoehorned into being a solution
[06:31:21] <t3> just use $HISTFILE
[06:31:11] <FatPhil> I'm not sure the different windows have different histories is an easily solvable problem anyway.
[06:31:06] <t3> what are you trying to do with your shell history tho?
[06:29:56] <FatPhil> I can get zsh on this box in 20 keypresses if I desire
[06:29:02] <chromas> I guess it'd probably give me the same features as fish but I'd have to run the InstallShield Wizard to set it up first
[06:28:46] <FatPhil> fortunately, shell windows last for months to years.
[06:28:39] <chromas> no zsh in your box?
[06:27:53] <FatPhil> Alas, GNU history can't save such state
[06:27:25] <FatPhil> which also has the benefit of the scrollbacks all being relevant too.
[06:27:09] <FatPhil> I just have different shells for different work in different directories, that's how I keep my histories context sensitive
[06:26:07] <FatPhil> so that's also "yes", as my "it is on a separate key" must be right
[06:26:01] <chromas> so if I'm in the irc bot build directory then it'll try to predict the build command and whatnot
[06:25:36] <chromas> it also tries to be a smartass about which directory you're in
[06:25:14] <chromas> "no fish" is slick ;)
[06:25:13] <t3> you don't have to delete anything, just move the arrows
[06:24:52] <FatPhil> how is that a "no"? what are you disagreeing with?
[06:24:36] <t3> no fish is very slick
[06:23:55] <FatPhil> so that means if you start typing a command, and then realise you just want to do the same thing you just did, you have to delete the command before you up-arrow, or is it on a different key?
[06:23:01] <FatPhil> doesn't seem that dissimilar from just ctrl-R, but you need to know in advance that you'll be searching
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[06:19:52] <chromas> I can type something then use the arrows to go through history that matches what I typed as a substring
[06:19:22] <chromas> I like fish's completion thingamajig
[06:16:56] <FatPhil> well, in reality it's fail to solve problem by creating a rev that doesn't do anything useful, then create a tac that does.
[06:16:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel May Attempt to Acquire SiFive for $2 Billion - https://sylnt.us - if-you-can't-beat-'em,-buy-'em?
[06:09:12] <FatPhil> shell has O(N) for memory of history. Solve problem by creating a tac that needs O(N) memory too.
[06:08:49] <FatPhil> yup
[06:08:39] <FatPhil> the choice to output history forwards was an arbitrary decision (and an illogical one) in the first place, which is a clear indicator that both directions should be equally accessible to the user.
[06:08:00] <t3> isn't history a shell builtin tho?
[06:03:46] <FatPhil> Because if one program should have to have O(N) space, then creating more O(N) space programs is fine. If one's OK, any number's OK, amirite?
[05:59:18] <inz> history|tac?
[05:51:27] <FatPhil> Why the *fuck* doesn't 'history' have a switch for listing things in reverse? GNU's retarded.
[05:50:32] <FatPhil> We're capable of great things, and I think that aspect's worth celebrating.
[05:48:45] <t3> I'm just gonna ride it out while it lasts
[05:48:09] <t3> I would be procreating and capitalizing and all that if i did
[05:47:41] <t3> I don't think humanity is special
[05:47:24] <FatPhil> Zizek, is that you?
[05:47:20] <FatPhil> so by "nope, just myself", you actually meant "yes, good"?
[05:46:52] <t3> good
[05:46:37] <FatPhil> then you're dooming all of society to destruction, as I first said.
[05:46:31] <t3> childish clown shit
[05:46:25] <t3> that kind of thinking is a joke
[05:46:18] <t3> no, good and evil are horrible conceptions of the world
[05:45:56] <FatPhil> so you think that society *should* have a sense of good and evil, then?
[05:45:48] <t3> that's all I can do, and all that can be expected of me
[05:45:32] <t3> nope, just myself
[05:45:20] <FatPhil> yeah, but you're taking the rest of society with you
[05:44:50] <t3> thats cool
[05:44:38] <FatPhil> in that case, you're doomed to destruction yourself, unfortunately.
[05:43:51] <t3> nope, good and evil is the tribalism that destroys us, I refuse to live like that
[05:42:54] <FatPhil> I prefer a tribalism that shouts at the referee and then congratulates supporters of the opposing team after the match with a "we'll get you next time".
[05:41:55] <AzumaHazuki> sorry t3, but there are some lines you cross that get you disqualified from the human race for shoving. evil is real, it's out there, and it's laughing at those of us who pretend otherwise
[05:41:50] <FatPhil> yup, tribalism's everywhere, and you'll never stamp it out.
[05:41:17] <t3> just stupid regular humans
[05:41:05] <t3> I don't think the racists are any kind of *path
[05:40:24] <FatPhil> their view on the essence of humanity is mostly non-overlapping with ours. They'd view us as the weirdos.
[05:38:18] <AzumaHazuki> FatPhil: in either case, they've willingly and even gleefully thrown their human card in the incinerator. after wiping their ass on it.
[05:37:45] <FatPhil> I'd not call them psychopaths, I think sociopath is the word you're looking for!
[05:37:43] <AzumaHazuki> oh, yeah, i'm not saying not to let people condemn themselves with their own words
[05:37:17] <t3> OCOC
[05:37:16] <t3> it's more interesting to let everyone have their say thoughOC
[05:34:59] <AzumaHazuki> i cannot believe some of the utter psychopathic shit i've seen advanced by some of SN's commenters with, presumably, the closest things to a straight face they own.
[05:31:42] <AzumaHazuki> yeah SN has a hideous rightwing nutjob infestation
[05:31:30] <AzumaHazuki> this country is dead. i think, in hindsight, we'll realize it died in 1980. right now i can only focus on doing what's necessary to at least try and get the fuck out before it all implodes
[05:31:28] <FatPhil> Which is why I like discussing real world perceptions with you lot. Even the political cranks ;-) But even SN is a terrible sample.
[05:30:36] <FatPhil> Yup, of course the shitnozzles which splort information about the US to me are probably not that representative of large proportions of the country, I accept that.
[05:29:45] <AzumaHazuki> so how about not cutting off our noses to spite our faces, hm? we know how bad the situation is. why do you think i've been so intent on escaping north? i feel like a refugee in my own country
[05:29:05] <AzumaHazuki> and lo and behold...
[05:29:02] <AzumaHazuki> you give them too little credit. almost no one i knew actually liked Clinton, they just knew a Trump admin would be a shitshow
[05:28:54] <t3> we are the most propagandized and also the most educated generation, both the least and most ignorant
[05:28:25] <FatPhil> I think peak stupidity became obvious when there was groupthink of supporting the corrupt psychopath with a vagina 5 years ago.
[05:27:41] <FatPhil> No offence to you personally, obviously, I would hope I wouldn't need the disclaimer, but I see a *lot* of extremely tribal behaviour among young D voters. They're some of the least critical thinkers I've encountered.
[05:26:34] <AzumaHazuki> this seems to make older, more "conservative" voters a little nuts. they can't comprehend anything outside their experiene
[05:26:15] <FatPhil> And certainly, there's a lot of hypocrisy, an absolute lack of self-reflection, and lack of awareness of how your actions would be viewed if labels were reversed.
[05:26:06] <AzumaHazuki> my generation has no specific tribal loyalty. we're literally just voting for the people least likely to collapse the nation around our heads
[05:25:39] <AzumaHazuki> this is true. have you noticed, though, that especially younger people like me, while we usually vote D, aren't tribal about it?
[05:25:06] <FatPhil> I agree that the proportions are distorted in the conservative media, but that doesn't mean that the smaller problem is zero.
[05:21:41] <AzumaHazuki> like i said...projection
[05:20:57] <t3> meanwhile I can find 100x crackheads with nazi tattoos anywhere around
[05:20:20] <t3> but I have yet to meet real life "woke" nutjobs
[05:19:40] <t3> it's nothing new or special or worthy of attention
[05:19:27] <t3> cancel culture is just people getting upset in the age of mass media
[05:19:15] <AzumaHazuki> it boils down to "fuck you, only ME and MY TRIBE get to do that! You're outgroup!"
[05:18:39] <AzumaHazuki> it's that simple
[05:18:36] <AzumaHazuki> it's all hypocrisy. anytime you see a "conservative" rageshitting their pants, know you're looking at someone complanining about someone else doing something said "conservative" has done, is doing, will do, or wishes to do
[05:17:23] <FatPhil> if you're prepared to overlap karenism with cancel culture, you're clearly able to cast a very broad net over concepts, and woke really should have been part of such coverage.
[05:11:20] <t3> cancel culture karens have very little overlap with "woke"
[05:10:58] <t3> I don't agree, because I don't see these "wokes" anywhere but RWNJs imaginations
[05:08:30] <systemd> ^ 03Slavoj Žižek: The difference between ‘woke’ and a true awakening
[05:08:28] <FatPhil> for some context, raxas just submitted https://www.rt.com , which I broadly agree with. But don't see it as having any great philosophical or ethical insights.
[05:08:24] <AzumaHazuki> we are not dealing with well minds here. civilization is approaching a crisis point and no one knows what's coming out of it
[05:07:20] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: there's some of that. I'm not particularly deviant from his political beliefs, but think what he writes is obvious because of that.
[05:06:00] <AzumaHazuki> depends on the drug, i think
[05:04:18] <t3> can the problem be solved if runaway switches to real drugs instead of catnip?
[05:03:03] <AzumaHazuki> so catnip to an unhinged conspiracy nut like runaway
[05:02:53] <AzumaHazuki> FatPhil: because he tells them what they want to hear and he's "politically incorrect"
[04:58:35] <FatPhil> He can be wrong, he can be right. Toss a coin. As someone into information theory, that makes him useless as anything apart from a source of entropy.
[04:56:36] <FatPhil> I don't understand why people like Zizek's witterings so much, he's amusing in his delivery, but he has no great insights into anything, IME.
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[03:47:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SK Hynix Admits to DRAM Defects, Calls the Cops - https://sylnt.us - dram-of-cyber-libel
[03:14:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Lawmakers Question Navy's Decision to Abandon Nuclear Cruise Missile - USNI News" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:14:47] <Runaway1956> =submit https://news.usni.org We really need a NOOKLAR missile to nail a camel jockey?
[03:14:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Slavoj Žižek: the Difference Between ‘Woke’ and a True Awakening" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:14:15] <raxas> =submit https://www.rt.com
[03:10:31] <Runaway1956> might be good for another discussion
[03:10:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Three F.D.A. Advisers Resign Over Agency’s Approval of Alzheimer’s Drug" (32p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:10:16] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[03:10:02] <Runaway1956> Yep, thought so -
[03:09:03] * Runaway1956 looks
[03:08:57] <Runaway1956> Did we have that old timer's story on the front page?
[03:08:44] <systemd> ^ 03Three F.D.A. Advisers Resign Over Agency’s Approval of Alzheimer’s Drug
[03:08:43] <Runaway1956> https://www.nytimes.com
[03:07:29] <Runaway1956> kinda cute, but I'm not subbing it . . .
[03:07:05] <systemd> ^ 03Owner of thieving cat invites neighbours to reclaim stolen items
[03:07:04] <Runaway1956> https://www.independent.co.uk
[03:03:28] <kyonko_> do they stop getting hard?
[03:03:23] <kyonko_> castration doesn't stop... ugh i don't know
[02:57:47] <kyonko_> I got 4 cats I need to get spayed/neutered
[02:57:12] <kyonko_> freud mentions castration a lot
[02:57:03] <kyonko_> too bad catholic priests arent castrated
[02:56:56] <raxas> it worked well in ancient times
[02:56:44] <kyonko_> hahahahahahaha
[02:56:39] <t3> that would probably solve quite a few problems
[02:56:36] <kyonko_> run by eunuchs?
[02:56:17] <kyonko_> oh no shit?
[02:56:11] <raxas> male castration should be compulsory for all civil servant officials and candidates
[02:55:48] <kyonko_> now its done in mental gymnastics
[02:55:32] <kyonko_> mao may he ended centuries tradition of castration in china, but he killed them before they reached reproductive age tho
[02:54:45] <kyonko_> you could say mao was cool because he ended male castration in china
[02:54:20] <kyonko_> you are a trip raxas
[02:53:45] <kyonko_> english civil war of cromwell is easy to war game
[02:53:36] <raxas> at least lenin cared about real people
[02:53:25] <kyonko_> the english civilwar had a lot of swordplay
[02:52:50] <kyonko_> oh my god, don't say you liked lenin?
[02:52:40] <raxas> and nothing changed since
[02:52:24] <raxas> cromwell was just a first modern dictator, a model for all future modern dictators
[02:51:45] <kyonko_> a nurse does that all the time putting a catheter in
[02:51:27] <Runaway1956> chicks all want to squeeze a prince's penis
[02:51:15] <Runaway1956> I think women are worse than men -
[02:51:08] <kyonko_> what do you think of oliver cromwell and his longbowl and matchlock gun war, raxas ?
[02:50:34] <Runaway1956> Not quite accurate - the news is constantly being choked with news on the royal family
[02:50:21] <kyonko_> I know what king leopold did
[02:50:06] <kyonko_> yeah nobody mentions monarchs
[02:50:04] <raxas> that's the key to the situation
[02:49:52] <raxas> guys did you noticed the current political wokeism wave does not apply to europe's monarchs?
[02:49:47] <kyonko_> freedom pretty much boils down to: nature is going to kill you, or you are going to get killed or bound if you caught doing it
[02:48:46] <t3> laws don't have anything to do with it
[02:48:45] <kyonko_> why isn't bill gates at leveanworth or adx
[02:48:37] <t3> freedom is a state of being, you either are or are not
[02:48:37] * Runaway1956 reads more on moving VMs from /home to a media drive
[02:47:46] <Runaway1956> Ohhh I don't know about fake freedom - I've always gone where I pleased, and done as I liked
[02:47:44] <kyonko_> bill gates is setting the world on fire, being free won't mean anything
[02:46:59] <kyonko_> the US is rich with fake freedom
[02:46:42] <Runaway1956> That's what kills me about the UK - they claim to be a democracy, but they keep their monarch
[02:46:33] <kyonko_> indo-european
[02:46:26] <kyonko_> if you want to be deep, then yes
[02:46:07] <raxas> czech is very similar sanskrit, just like other slavic languages
[02:46:07] <Runaway1956> Monarchs never belong to you - they own you
[02:45:38] <systemd> ^ 03How to move VirtualBox VMs from one drive to another
[02:45:37] <Runaway1956> https://www.techrepublic.com
[02:45:30] <kyonko_> do you know how the czech language formed?
[02:45:01] <raxas> none of those monarchs are considerd 'my'. similarly to scotchland or ireland
[02:44:36] <kyonko_> congo of europe is france
[02:44:27] <kyonko_> nigeria of europe is spain
[02:44:26] <Runaway1956> or the Congo
[02:44:14] <Runaway1956> Czechoslovakia is the Nigeria of Europe
[02:43:59] <t3> james bond is gonna be chinese
[02:43:52] <t3> USA is the evil empire these days
[02:43:50] <kyonko_> but you guys had guns
[02:43:37] <Runaway1956> Yeah, something like that
[02:43:33] <kyonko_> they got conquered
[02:43:25] <raxas> we were occupied by austria for 300 years
[02:43:18] <Runaway1956> I didn't know the czechs could afford their own monarch - didn't they just borrow and import from other places?
[02:42:47] <kyonko_> who was the last monarch of the czechs?
[02:42:43] <systemd> ^ 03PBS journo: 'Experts' say it 'might take several election cycles' for US to rebuild Europe's trust after Trump
[02:42:42] <Runaway1956> https://www.foxnews.com
[02:42:40] <kyonko_> ok raxas
[02:42:31] <kyonko_> baby stewie from family guy was a cartoon, but these people exist by the hundreds world wide
[02:42:26] <raxas> to me, james bond was a villain
[02:41:46] <kyonko_> we need a real life james bond, for real real life james bond villians
[02:41:24] <Runaway1956> spoiled bitches, all of them
[02:41:14] <Runaway1956> All of those squat squad wenches need to be spanked soundly
[02:40:44] <systemd> ^ 03White House silent as Dem civil war brews between Pelosi, 'Squad'
[02:40:43] <kyonko_> you think bill gates wouldn't have taken a once in a cosmos change to ascend?
[02:40:43] <Runaway1956> https://www.foxnews.com
[02:40:11] <kyonko_> government is exactly the same, infact, they are competitors
[02:39:45] <kyonko_> they know why they do it tho
[02:38:26] <kyonko_> the catholic padres already do enough harm raping kids
[02:38:16] <kyonko_> I don't dig cops acting like armed and violent catholic priests
[02:37:30] <kyonko_> lol where?
[02:37:21] <Runaway1956> "disrespect of an officer of the law" was a capital offense very recently
[02:37:00] <kyonko_> the computer didn't tell the cops to
[02:36:47] <Runaway1956> at least the cops didn't shoot him for being sassy
[02:36:36] <kyonko_> he's high on YHWH
[02:36:25] <Runaway1956> of course, not knowing what he was high on, sedation might be out of the question
[02:36:11] <kyonko_> Runaway1956, euthanasia!
[02:36:02] <kyonko_> even a bite on clothing is unnerving
[02:35:57] <Runaway1956> He probably should have taken a ride to the local looney bin for observation, and probably sedation
[02:35:56] <kyonko_> human bites are terrible if you catch one
[02:35:31] <Runaway1956> I'm of two minds on that one
[02:35:27] <kyonko_> lol its police news
[02:35:10] <kyonko_> was the motorcycle his?
[02:35:02] <kyonko_> he's not hurting anyone
[02:34:50] <systemd> ^ 03Police watch man strip naked, destroy motorcycle, bite tree: 'Thanks to legislators, we couldn't do anything'
[02:34:49] <Runaway1956> https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com
[02:33:27] <kyonko_> the biggest modern day war horse machine gun is kalashnikov designed and fires a cartridge from the 1890's
[02:32:05] <kyonko_> because their idea of gun works good enough
[02:31:56] <kyonko_> you would have thought the CIS would have created caseless guns, but they haven't
[02:31:35] <systemd> ^ 03Пушка Гаусса Gauss Gun "COBRA" CoilGun
[02:31:32] <raxas> https://www.youtube.com
[02:30:57] <kyonko_> computers under strict end user control are the new guns tho
[02:30:22] <kyonko_> behind the view of prying eyes a man will always be crafting a gun
[02:29:51] <kyonko_> they are always inventing them
[02:29:46] <kyonko_> czechs love guns
[02:29:19] <kyonko_> it would be a good idea for the hunter market
[02:29:07] <kyonko_> non-reloadable
[02:28:56] <kyonko_> they work, for like, single shots
[02:28:49] <kyonko_> oh i've seen them
[02:27:40] <raxas> I am not sure if such ammunition will be sufficient against russian robots cladded in ceramic titanium boride armor. adequate against homeland riots though
[02:27:07] <kyonko_> hubris, something is going to get soft and melt
[02:20:56] <Runaway1956> polymer casings - reduce weight and increase velocity and range all at the same time?
[02:20:20] <systemd> ^ 037.62x51mm Rifles And Miniguns Adapted To Fire Longer-Range Polymer Cased 6.8mm Ammo In Tests
[02:20:19] <Runaway1956> https://www.thedrive.com
[02:16:09] <t3> feeding dog to kittens is OK, just make sure to tenderize it so they don't strain those jaws
[02:15:07] <raxas> feeding kittens to dog is an untolerable crime
[01:47:32] <requerdanos> alchemy sex thing. got it.
[01:46:57] <kyonko_> give up sex to know the truth
[01:46:44] <kyonko_> more like alchemy
[01:46:35] <requerdanos> is it a mass-equivalence thing?
[01:46:19] <kyonko_> i know what he meant tho
[01:45:14] <requerdanos> Dogs are, unfortunately for this line of thought, not made of kittens.
[01:44:19] <kyonko_> depends if its an asthmahound chihuahua
[01:42:48] <Runaway1956> How many runt kittens make one healthy dog?
[01:39:18] <kyonko_> very lite, weighs like a runt kitten
[01:39:09] <kyonko_> it can be articulated into a keyboarded tablet
[01:37:41] <kyonko_> I need a new samsung android phone
[01:36:44] <kyonko_> I got a post covid chip shortage lenovo chromebook with glove compatible touch screen
[01:17:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GameStop Stock Falls Sharply Amid 5M-Share Sales Plan, SEC Investigation - https://sylnt.us - sharp-pointy-lines
[01:12:34] <t3> damn new laptop is so thin the cat wants to chew on it, already put a hole in the corner before i caught him
[00:53:28] <kyonko_> i'm good with mouse
[00:53:10] <kyonko_> I don't strictly need touch screen access in linux
[00:52:52] <kyonko_> its gnome2 updated
[00:49:01] <requerdanos> hmm, few are the people who know what Mate is but haven't tried it at least once.
[00:42:45] <kyonko_> haven't tried MATE yet
[00:42:34] <kyonko_> I can't stand kde plasma.... only kde 3.5
[00:40:46] <kyonko_> I knew of the zilog 80 trainer board, but I didn't know about the microproffessor MP-1
[00:14:59] <t3> the kobo elipsa looks nice, but there's so much hype and speculation about new display tech coming soon that I'm hesitant