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[00:11:17] * Teckla ended up switching from OS/2 to Windows 95, and didn't regret the choice.
[00:11:57] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: Are you talking about WSL/WSL2? I use those almost daily. Very handy.
[00:24:46] * Runaway1956 wonders if Bytram ties a full Windsor or a lame half-Windsor.
[00:25:09] <Runaway1956> Hard to do a full Windsor with wide ties . . .
[00:33:10] <Bytram> I suspect it mostly depends on neck size -- those football linemen with the 18+ inch neck? Yeah, I could see that being a problem, but I rarely had much trouble after some practice.
[00:34:36] <Bytram> Well, there were some ties that were harder than others -- and I usually discovered which ties those were when I was late for work!
[00:39:14] <Runaway1956> lol at late for work
[00:39:42] <Runaway1956> Looks like Aristarchus is apoplectic today - he's making full use of all his sockpuppets!
[00:47:32] * Teckla tied, and wore, ties for what feels like eons, and would be happy to never tie or wear one again.
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[00:48:04] <SoyCow0001> We're subverting and destroying your country, but everybody please feel sorry for us! It's all about our victimhood!
[00:48:08] <SoyCow0001> https://wsvn.com
[00:48:09] <systemd> ^ 03Man on bike leaves bag, cooler with apparent feces at Hallandale Beach synagogue
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[01:27:50] <AzumaHazuki> what the fuck is wrong with that guy eth?
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[02:17:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla May Have to Ship Texas-Made EVs Out of State to Sell them to Texans - https://sylnt.us - who-wants-to-open-a-Tesla-dealership?
[02:17:43] <chromas> Texan-Texout
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[06:10:04] <chromas> did we do this one? https://arstechnica.com
[06:10:05] <systemd> ^ 03Amazon devices will soon automatically share your Internet with neighbors
[06:13:17] <chromas> "Dan Goodin"...seems legit
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[06:57:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sabrent Launches High Endurance SSDs Specifically for Chia Cryptocurrency Mining (Plotting) - https://sylnt.us - how-much-for-a-Chia-pet?
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[08:33:51] <Ingar> bah, it seems my connection issues are IPv6 related, but than I do not understand why IPv4 doesnt work
[08:34:37] <Ingar> I also hate debian
[08:39:35] <kyonko`> my funny thigh welt is gone
[08:39:50] <kyonko`> I guess it was a tiny summer time ant
[08:41:23] <Ingar> I got mosquitoed yesterday
[08:43:04] <Ingar> once they get all red and swollen and 10cm in diameter, it aint funny no more
[08:43:54] <kyonko`> yeah I never got seriously sick from mosquito bites since childhood, and I doubt i'm immune
[08:44:08] <kyonko`> they love ankles
[08:44:20] <Ingar> them bugs always loved me
[08:44:32] <Ingar> but reactions are getting more violent as I grow older :(
[08:44:36] <kyonko`> if more than 1 ant had bit me i'd be covered in goose eggs
[08:44:42] <kyonko`> that i've noticed!
[08:44:50] <kyonko`> I used to be able to take bee stings as a kid
[08:44:56] <kyonko`> then the bee stings gave me goose eggs
[08:45:13] <Ingar> wasps are particulary bad
[08:45:31] <kyonko`> I wouldn't know what a wasp would do to you, but I remember the murder hornets during covid19 lockdown months
[08:46:38] <kyonko`> we have something called a brown recluse spider here, they are everywhere
[08:46:42] <kyonko`> and I mean, everywhere
[08:47:01] <kyonko`> a bite and you will need to be taken to hospital for recovery
[08:47:22] <kyonko`> nothing PPE can't prevent, and this was before fucking covid19 psychosis
[08:47:35] <Ingar> fortunatly, wildlife is in general not that dangerous here :)
[08:47:43] <kyonko`> you don't even have rabies
[08:48:00] <kyonko`> but you have uk strain
[08:48:12] <kyonko`> mutated in bo jo himself and now is killing india
[10:07:37] <raxas> =submit https://adam.pages.nic.cz
[10:07:47] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03DNS RTT Analysis Reinforced" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:07:49] <kyonko`> my thumbdrives have worn out
[10:08:37] <kyonko`> i'm so poor I only have 1 IDE 250mb SSd
[10:08:49] <raxas> thumbdrives last much much less than diskettes did
[10:09:01] <kyonko`> yeah diskettes needed a tape backup or an HDD
[10:09:07] <kyonko`> which you had to borrow or rent
[10:09:35] <kyonko`> communist computing or something
[10:09:55] <kyonko`> 250gb thumb drives never did go down in price
[10:09:59] <kyonko`> i wonder why
[10:10:12] <kyonko`> 250gb severely hobbled by fat32
[10:11:12] <kyonko`> one year ago, a big black brutha was kneed to death
[10:11:29] <kyonko`> for 9 minutes, a cop just stood there with his hand in his pocket
[10:13:18] <kyonko`> during the 3 months lockdown of 2020, there was no shortage of NEW and CHEAP chinese electronics at wal-mart
[10:13:30] <kyonko`> there was a big shortage of medical and hygiene crap
[10:13:49] <kyonko`> just pray the tetanus away!
[10:16:04] <kyonko`> has anyone seen that amazon tv commercial of the people with the fox gene problem?
[10:16:15] <kyonko`> I hope its fake
[10:37:27] <raxas> which one do you mean, FOXG1 gene or FOXP2
[10:45:27] <kyonko`> the one where you can't speak
[10:45:36] <kyonko`> I have cats with genetic speech problems
[10:45:48] <kyonko`> well... as far as cat speech goes
[10:47:05] <raxas> https://medlineplus.gov
[10:47:07] <systemd> ^ 03FOXP2-related speech and language disorder: MedlinePlus Genetics
[10:48:10] <kyonko`> amazon commercial made it seem hereditary like tay-sachs
[10:48:16] <kyonko`> or dwarfism
[10:48:40] <kyonko`> and they were wearing the spit guards in the office
[10:49:01] <kyonko`> spit guards seem very popular in japan as seen on NHK
[10:49:11] <kyonko`> i just don't know any more......
[10:50:26] <raxas> you don't seem to have this condition
[10:50:30] <raxas> ...
[10:51:38] <kyonko`> i'm a woman in a man's body!
[10:52:08] <FatPhil> not an alien in a human's body?
[10:53:30] <kyonko`> when I was in elementary school I really thought I was a robot
[10:53:50] <FatPhil> the mitochondria that control you don't want you to know that
[10:54:02] <kyonko`> I come from a culture where people pray to god for luck, health, recovery, etc
[10:54:15] <FatPhil> yeah, the US, we've heard of it
[10:54:31] <kyonko`> money is a big deal in our spirituality, we staple USD denominations onto the clothing of our icon dolls
[10:55:00] <kyonko`> the mexicans and anglo-saxons aren't that different.... compared to the atheist
[10:56:25] <kyonko`> right after 2008 crisis, witch craft and with doctors and healers took off
[10:56:43] <kyonko`> (yes, like the african ones)
[10:56:57] <kyonko`> the catholic church doesn't like competition
[11:02:10] <kyonko`> I really was expecting public human sacrifice in the 3 month lockdown period of 2020
[11:02:28] <kyonko`> guess this wasn't it.... maybe they will do it when the fallout begins to fall
[11:06:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intermittent Fasting in Mice Demonstrably More Effective at Promoting Long-Term Memory Retention - https://sylnt.us - you'll-be-better-able-to-remember-how-much-it-sucks-to-go-hungry
[11:07:03] <kyonko`> so I was RIGHT in feeding my mice every 48 hours
[11:07:25] <kyonko`> (I know wild mice very very well)
[11:12:36] <raxas> once I had a secretary, she bred big lab rats as pets at home. brought one of them to my office time to time. old times, that was windows/286 epoch. stupid lazy blonde girl
[11:13:01] <kyonko`> hahaha
[11:13:05] <kyonko`> I never had windows on 286
[11:13:27] <kyonko`> thats when the whole linux-minix-bsd thing took off
[11:13:42] <raxas> https://winworldpc.com
[11:13:42] <systemd> ^ 03Windows 2.x Windows 286
[11:14:09] <kyonko`> the biggest problem in the 286 era was swapping drives out from bays
[11:14:38] <kyonko`> unless you wanted to finance an isa scsi controller
[11:14:55] <kyonko`> you had leave the 286 open leaking all sorts of RFI
[11:15:12] <kyonko`> monster amounts of TEMPEST
[11:15:42] <kyonko`> I had an original ibm pc from the trash
[11:16:35] <kyonko`> I really enjoyed myself with DOS gaming, when directx came I got sick of all games
[11:19:02] <kyonko`> when you say this girl was stupid.... it means she didn't know ibm casette basic?
[11:22:07] <raxas> she was so stupid she once forgot to scroll in my precious excel1 invoice form to fill it completely, I had to buy a full-page vertical monochrome monitor for just her
[11:24:20] <kyonko`> sounds about right in that era
[11:27:22] <kyonko`> I used to work with legacy systems in 2000's
[11:27:31] <kyonko`> never made a fucking mistake
[11:28:05] <kyonko`> we were monitored with vnc
[11:29:17] <kyonko`> it was z/OS running CICS
[11:29:28] <kyonko`> there was more, but thats the only one I remember
[11:32:41] <requerdanos> The expanded memory specification was known by the name LIM for the three companies who settled on it -- Lotus, Intel, and Microsoft
[11:32:52] <raxas> I was trained for cics programming, when we were supposed to upgrade Univac to IBM4361. that was my last corporate job. freelance, since then
[11:50:33] <kyonko`> what happened to Univac?
[11:50:45] <kyonko`> and how did a communist country get a Univac?
[11:51:23] <kyonko`> HPE owns all 1990's legacy super computers
[11:53:29] <raxas> good question
[11:53:59] <raxas> believe it or not, US Navy sold their univacs directly to communists
[11:54:19] <kyonko`> the first ak-47 imported to the united states legally was the finnish valmet rifle in castrated semi auto version, since machine guns were controlled in 1934
[11:54:20] <raxas> for me, cold war is a myth
[11:54:27] <kyonko`> I believe it raxas
[11:54:31] <kyonko`> a big crock of shit
[11:57:01] <kyonko`> then in the mid 1980's the hungarian and egyptian ak-47's began to be imported
[11:57:11] <kyonko`> around the time of tianenmen square, the chinese ones
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[15:45:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Non-Hallucinogenic Psychedelic Analog Rapidly Reverses Effects of Stress on the Brain - https://sylnt.us - a-new-way-to-reduce-stress
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[17:34:41] <FatPhil> wow. today I took a peek into the rabbithole...
[17:35:19] <FatPhil> What I discovered was basically exactly what you'd expect if you put Eth and kyonko into the brundlefly machine.
[17:36:34] <kyonko`> You listened to glenn beck
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[17:40:42] <FatPhil> miles mathis, apparently quite well know for saying that (a) both pi and 4 are jews; and (b) that's because pi is 4.
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[17:43:07] <requerdanos> Rationalwiki points out that "Miles Mathis (born 1964) is an American artist, poet, writer, pseudoscientist and conspiracy theorist."
[17:46:40] <chromas> Never trust a person with a unit for a name
[17:47:48] <FatPhil> am I right in thinking that he's not *that* famous as a CT kook
[17:47:59] <FatPhil> of have I been living in a cave
[17:50:29] <requerdanos> apparently he posts them on his website, but almost no one listens.
[17:50:41] <chromas> well pi = 4 when you round it up
[17:50:47] <chromas> Guess who else is known for being rounded up
[17:52:19] <bacteria> https://en.wikipedia.org
[17:52:20] <systemd> ^ 03Indiana Pi Bill - Wikipedia
[17:52:38] <kyonko`> it reaches for 4
[17:52:41] <kyonko`> but it will never be 4
[17:52:57] <kyonko`> because well, you can slice a circle to infinity
[17:54:07] <kyonko`> pi is NOT the inside diameter of a circle from its center
[17:55:04] <kyonko`> computers tend for some reason to think hard drives are cylinders
[17:55:47] <kyonko`> large and small sectors of equal weight
[17:56:13] <bacteria> multi-surface spindles do store data along the cylindrical shells
[17:56:50] <kyonko`> solid state memory drives wear out
[17:57:46] <kyonko`> without LBA the cylinders tend to go outward and get larger
[18:07:26] <AzumaHazuki> i've been thinking, since planck's length (10 e-61m) is the smallest unit of space it makes sense to speak of, technically shouldn't pi stop at 61 digits past the decimal point?
[18:07:54] <requerdanos> well, pi is a ratio, not a direct measurement of distance.
[18:08:00] <kyonko`> more like 64 sectors from the mbr
[18:08:15] <kyonko`> thats where grub hides all its goodies
[18:08:15] <AzumaHazuki> at least for our purposes. mathematics is founded on axioms, not based empirically, so it's possible that the axioms break down on collision with reality
[18:10:54] <kyonko`> math doesn't need arabic numerals
[18:11:15] <kyonko`> its best to use imagination for counting than say.... individual specks of dust
[18:11:36] <kyonko`> and then the alphabet gets involved.... GREEK ALPHABET
[18:13:11] <raxas> ancient greeks knew why they called your so called "real" numbers as "pragmatikos", literally. they called them "practical numbers" because they new they are not real at all...
[18:14:07] <raxas> pragmatikos arithmos https://el.wikipedia.org
[18:14:08] <systemd> ^ 03Πραγματικός αριθμός - Βικιπαίδεια
[18:17:16] <kyonko`> ...
[18:17:23] <kyonko`> ok now give the bot an instagram url
[18:17:49] <AzumaHazuki> wow, i can read that almost as fast as english
[18:17:56] <AzumaHazuki> guess all that time staring at Koine paid off
[18:18:35] <kyonko`> you know greek?
[18:18:52] <AzumaHazuki> i can read a little of it, though i don't know most of what the words mean
[18:19:15] <kyonko`> of course you know greek, you like to babble over the bible
[18:19:20] <AzumaHazuki> i did a lot of Bible study over the last 12 years or so, especially the first 6-8 of those, yes
[18:19:40] <AzumaHazuki> waste of time for the most part, honestly, but that was where i was...
[18:19:55] <kyonko`> ok
[18:20:02] <kyonko`> but 12 years ago was a really dark place
[18:20:12] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: You enjoy mythology, eh? ;)
[18:20:47] <AzumaHazuki> honestly no, but when you get inundated with it, it helps to know the origins and purpose and how it shapes people
[18:21:08] <AzumaHazuki> stories are frightening things. most people seem to live their lives under the yoke or one or more
[18:23:35] * Teckla nods.
[18:24:53] <pinchy> wah i want my alien invasion now
[18:27:15] <kyonko`> mexicans believe in a lot of bullshit
[18:27:20] <kyonko`> like... "the eye
[18:27:28] <kyonko`> the eye is the worst one
[18:27:43] <kyonko`> assuming you don't have science to understand what an eye is
[18:29:59] <FatPhil> the evil eye?
[18:31:03] <kyonko`> no, just the eye
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[18:31:26] <kyonko`> you know, that thing that interacts with very shortwavelengths that produce colors in chemistry
[18:31:44] <kyonko`> the ear is similar
[18:32:28] <kyonko`> spiritual peoples don't need science
[18:32:39] <kyonko`> they are perfectly fine reproducing in their teen years and dying before 30
[18:33:34] <kyonko`> they say space looks nothing like you think it does
[18:33:58] <kyonko`> the reflection of sun light from the surface of the earth is so strong you can not see stars or planets
[18:38:37] <raxas> if you take planck's concept as truth then the space is made of tiny shards. the universe is... broken
[18:38:48] <pinchy> i wonder if the chemtrails are out spraying on memorial day?
[18:39:25] <kyonko`> no they stopped chemtrailing a few months after trump
[18:40:45] <FatPhil> don't tell me - their idea of panspermia is wanking into an omelette?
[18:41:23] <pinchy> i sent an email to the local air quality environmental 'director' and they told me to take it up with the FAA. and responded with wikipeida links to how chemtrails are contrails hah
[18:41:41] <pinchy> there is a huge effort to cover up the deliberate spraying
[18:41:42] <kyonko`> FatPhil: you go to hell for that
[18:42:05] <FatPhil> https://i.imgur.com
[18:43:04] <kyonko`> its the sin of onan
[18:43:12] <kyonko`> I know AzumaHazuki knows of onani
[18:43:30] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: With ya on going small to Plank Length... now to go the other way to largest measurable distance. Do we go just to the edge of the observable universe (as if there is nothing beyond what we can see) or do we keep going? And, if so, how far? Observed gravitational effect on this side of the "edge"?
[18:43:35] <FatPhil> that's umami
[18:44:28] <kyonko`> Bytram: roger penrose better not die yet!
[18:44:30] <AzumaHazuki> nooo idea, Bytram. there's a lot more out there than we can see thanks to what appears to be accelerating expansion
[18:44:32] <Bytram> I assume that's not amore'
[18:45:07] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: good answer!
[18:45:15] <FatPhil> *If* the accelerating expansion is true. Not everyone agrees on it yet.
[18:45:21] <AzumaHazuki> it's no answer at all unfortunately...
[18:45:31] <Bytram> =w observable universe
[18:45:32] <systemd> The observable universe is a ball-shaped region of the universe comprising all matter that can be observed from Earth or its space-based telescopes and - https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:45:33] <kyonko`> Tell us about ONANI AzumaHazuki
[18:45:50] <AzumaHazuki> is that some secret society or something?
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[18:46:48] <Bytram> Wikipedia says for the observable universe: Diameter is 8.8×1026 m
[18:47:04] <Bytram> urk
[18:47:13] <Bytram> Wikipedia says for the observable universe: Diameter is 8.8×10^26 m
[18:48:40] <Bytram> combined w/ Planck's length of: 10 e-61m
[18:50:09] <raxas> do not underestimate other universes
[18:50:11] <raxas> https://www.youtube.com
[18:50:12] <systemd> ^ 03Paimon being Aggressive for 5 minutes straight
[18:52:01] <Bytram> Together, that suggests that ~87 digits is sufficient to measure the diameter of the observable universe +/- one Planck length!
[18:53:10] <kyonko`> 87 digits.... the language is even a misnomer
[18:53:29] <kyonko`> we called them place value in the new math we got before the cccp fell
[18:53:53] <kyonko`> we counted to 100 before leaving for home in kindergarden
[18:54:02] <kyonko`> out loud too
[18:54:11] <Bytram> yes, I should have said decimal digits.
[18:54:28] <kyonko`> I got really messed up by the new math
[18:54:51] <kyonko`> because when the soviet union collapsed in 1991, the public education system just focused on sports
[18:55:12] <kyonko`> they knew the tech and military industrial complex and economic GDP jobs were done
[18:55:39] <kyonko`> say its not real all you want, but the thinking machines supercomputer died from lack of cold war funding
[18:55:54] <kyonko`> only CM1 and CM2 were produced
[18:56:35] <kyonko`> there was a thick stench in the 1990's of utopia at hand
[18:56:44] <kyonko`> sure buddy, with HIV-AIDS?
[19:47:39] <FatPhil> n.w. Cesky Sen
[19:48:12] <kyonko`> they copied the logo from skype
[19:48:18] <kyonko`> that is so dark
[19:48:31] <kyonko`> I'm idling like an idiot on skype
[19:48:39] <kyonko`> I should call my voip pots phone
[19:52:41] <FatPhil> ISO Cesky Sen Pivo!
[19:53:49] <kyonko`> https://upload.wikimedia.org
[19:55:14] <kyonko`> lightning has never struck my home
[19:56:30] <kyonko`> should cesky sen be banned or censored?
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[20:07:26] * kyonko` just remembered "the krampus"
[20:08:50] <kyonko`> its a czech thing
[20:09:19] <kyonko`> https://static.wikia.nocookie.net
[20:13:24] <raxas> no. that's not czech. that's german as hell. we have "čert" instead
[20:14:10] <raxas> https://www.fonetip.cz
[20:14:14] <systemd> ^ 03Čert Hubert plyš 20cm | Fonetip.cz
[20:16:27] <kyonko`> heh "cert"
[20:16:39] <kyonko`> isn't prague german?
[20:19:57] <raxas> stupid Microsoft Age of Empires, I hate Bill Gates for just this confusion
[20:20:20] <kyonko`> https://www.scaryforkids.com
[20:20:34] <kyonko`> you are using old shit on old computers?
[20:21:35] <kyonko`> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
[20:24:22] <inz> I think we finns have missed something about that krampus story, here we call the one who brings presents joulupukki (yule goat)
[20:26:14] <kyonko`> I didn't know about krampus until past 2010
[20:26:25] <kyonko`> what is this...... the devil?
[20:26:38] <kyonko`> and I was talking to some other guy on irc who didn't know either
[20:26:47] <kyonko`> "it's just the devil"
[20:27:01] <inz> No he's the good one, one making healthy and non-spoiled kids.
[20:27:15] <raxas> there many races of devils with us, this is just one of them
[20:27:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Discovers New Russian Cyber Attack on 150 Government, NGO Sites - https://sylnt.us
[20:28:07] <kyonko`> Microsoft is going to save us from neo-stalin
[20:28:24] <raxas> well, I wish russians did once a some real cyberattack on murica, that would teach you all
[20:29:26] * kyonko` shrugs
[20:29:40] <kyonko`> sometimes when I shrug hard, I can feel my brachial plexus
[20:29:53] <kyonko`> its uncanny when you can feel individual nerves in the flesh
[20:30:22] <kyonko`> sometimes I scratch my beard and scratch the "facial nerve" itself on the jaw
[20:30:35] <kyonko`> so the internet is like nerves
[20:30:51] <kyonko`> telling the brain something about the condition of a full stomach or something
[20:31:27] <raxas> internets is pipes
[20:33:14] <kyonko`> https://tpc.googlesyndication.com
[20:34:27] <kyonko`> my bladder is full!
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[21:14:06] <raxas> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[21:14:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Deepfake Maps Could Really Mess With Your Sense of the World" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:14:20] <FatPhil> Cesky Sen was really good. I'd have been happy for EU arts funding to have been behind it, as long as translations of the subs into all the EU languages was part of the deliverable.
[21:14:42] <FatPhil> raxas: do you remember the fuss surrounding it?
[21:16:02] <raxas> no, I did not even noticed then. my reality is... different
[21:16:22] <FatPhil> after the reveal, so many people were conflating "being lied to" and "joining the EU", that was weird.
[21:16:52] <FatPhil> have you seen the documentary, though?
[21:17:32] <raxas> we certainly were lied about not joining nato after joining eu
[21:18:56] <raxas> and we were joined to nato and participadet in bombardment of serbia the very next day
[21:19:23] <FatPhil> yeah, but this was a prank about consumerism - lots of people got that, it wasn't that deep an enigma. That others mapped it onto politics was weird.
[21:20:12] <raxas> so the problem for many people here is not consumerism, it is how west betrayed us _again_, just like in 1938
[21:22:16] <kyonko`> I remember the bombing of the chinese embassy in belgrade in 1999
[21:22:28] <kyonko`> ugh
[21:22:47] <kyonko`> eventually they got sick of milosevic in 2000 and threw him out
[21:23:02] <kyonko`> i'm surprised they never compared trump to milosevic
[21:23:24] <raxas> Serbs are tribal brothers to us. I never forget. I never forgive. I am of the Street faction. I will find my own uses of things.
[21:23:31] <kyonko`> slav bros
[21:23:38] <kyonko`> i am latino
[21:23:53] <kyonko`> like brazilians, portuguese, spaniards, italians
[21:23:57] <kyonko`> not french
[21:24:01] <kyonko`> those are gauls
[21:24:16] <Bytram> dobre utero!
[21:24:25] <Bytram> ummm
[21:24:34] <Bytram> dobre vece?
[21:24:48] <kyonko`> we're catholic
[21:24:54] <kyonko`> but so are the poles
[21:25:01] <FatPhil> santa vaca?
[21:25:11] <kyonko`> the mass was in latin
[21:25:48] <kyonko`> i wonder what romanians are
[21:26:30] <FatPhil> Urquell used to be brewed in Poland. Not a lot of people know that. In particular Czechs.
[21:26:51] <kyonko`> heh
[21:26:54] <FatPhil> Yet again, lied to...
[21:27:03] <kyonko`> Steve Urquell was a black kid in a tv show in the 1990's
[21:27:25] <kyonko`> a black nerd
[21:27:46] <kyonko`> I was a white steve urquell :P
[21:29:03] <kyonko`> whats the symbolism in this? https://ia800702.us.archive.org
[21:31:05] <Sulla> summer is the worst season
[21:31:11] <kyonko`> yeah its buggy
[21:31:18] <kyonko`> a tiny ant gave me a thigh welt
[21:31:22] <FatPhil> it's a feature
[21:31:27] <kyonko`> there is always that anxiety that its a spider bite
[21:31:34] <Sulla> i thought gates was gonna mr burns block the sun
[21:31:56] <Sulla> In the process of cleaning shed to turn it into a home office, came across a ton of black widows so far
[21:32:01] <kyonko`> if there are spiders. then there must be mites
[21:32:07] <Sulla> some hobo spiders but apparenlty those are fake news dangerous
[21:32:18] <kyonko`> daddy long legs?
[21:32:18] * FatPhil looks for remote exploits for 4.9.58 ...
[21:32:45] <kyonko`> I'm not sure how bad the black widow venom is, but i guess it will cause anaphylaxis
[21:32:49] <Sulla> I have come across some cellar spiders yes, but no daddy longlegs, those tend to hang out in grass
[21:33:11] <Sulla> https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:33:12] <systemd> ^ 03Latrodectus - Wikipedia
[21:33:44] <kyonko`> wear PPE and nothing will happen between you and bugs
[21:33:45] <FatPhil> daddy long legs are crane flies in this part of the world
[21:33:59] <FatPhil> Anyone seen /Army of the Dead/?
[21:34:22] <Sulla> https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:34:23] <systemd> ^ 03Opiliones - Wikipedia
[21:34:30] <Sulla> here daddy longlegs refers to harvestmen
[21:34:48] <Sulla> appears to broadly apply to crane flies and cellar spiders as well
[21:35:16] <kyonko`> yes they are called the harvestmen
[21:35:21] <kyonko`> lots of them in my home
[21:35:58] <Sulla> cellar spiders are fine as long as they dont get themselves precieved as violating the NAP
[21:40:16] <kyonko`> also scorpions
[21:40:27] <kyonko`> those can be very bad
[21:40:46] <kyonko`> but not worth me being herded into dachau
[21:40:50] <Sulla> dont have those here
[21:44:43] <pinchy> no break today. out there spraying even on the holidays
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[21:59:43] <FatPhil> spiders can leave old dusty webs in hard-to-clean places, that's my main complaint.
[22:00:13] <kyonko`> gossamer
[22:00:19] * FatPhil looks ~6m up the wall in front of him and sighs...
[22:00:21] <raxas> spiders are quite sensitive to sounds. it is trivial to influence them with mini sound sources
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[22:28:30] <Runaway1956> potentially big news here
[22:28:40] <Runaway1956> =submit https://bbcbreakingnews.com
[22:28:45] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Antibody From Cold Can Neutralize COVID-19 and Could Lead to Vaccine Against All Coronaviruses – M" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:28:50] <Runaway1956> then again, it may be bogus bullshit
[22:44:48] <AzumaHazuki> ...!
[22:45:35] <AzumaHazuki> if that headline is true we better be all over this
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[23:05:41] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[23:05:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03ZeroHedge" (46p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:07:56] <Runaway1956> FWIW, many veterans know they were lied to by the government
[23:08:06] <Runaway1956> Big lies, little lies, and everything in between
[23:08:33] * Runaway1956 nods at Rudyard Kipling
[23:11:36] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki:
[23:11:40] <Bytram> =cite https://www.nature.com
[23:11:41] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Ge Song, Wan-ting He, Sean Callaghan, <em>et al</em>. <b>Cross-reactive serum and memory B-cell responses to spike protein in SARS-CoV-2 and endemic coronavirus infection</b> [open], <cite>Nature Communications</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-021-23074-3">10.1038/s41467-021-23074-3</a>)</p>
[23:12:22] <AzumaHazuki> it would be so wonderful if we finally find a vaccine that works across the entire beta-coronaviridae family
[23:14:27] <Bytram> agreed!
[23:16:33] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: Any chance you'd like to take a stab at that story? Condense it down to, say, 5-7 paragraphs? (It's a bit on the heavy-going for me.) I'd gladly any final editing needed. =)
[23:17:31] <Bytram> (It's ~16 paragraphs to start with)
[23:19:37] <AzumaHazuki> i can't really condense this. it's already about as concise as it can get
[23:19:42] <AzumaHazuki> this is heavy, technical stuff
[23:21:57] <Bytram> yeah, I was afraid of that... fools leap in where angels fear to tread -- wish me luck, I'm going to try it!
[23:28:15] <Bytram> =w common cold
[23:28:16] <systemd> The common cold, also known simply as a cold, is a viral infectious disease of the upper respiratory tract that primarily affects the respiratory mucosa - https://en.wikipedia.org