#soylent | Logs for 2021-05-28
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[00:22:52] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.techdirt.com
[00:22:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Private Security Company Thinks It Should be Able to Take People to Jail Just Like Real Cops" (24p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:23:18] * Runaway1956 notes that Hazuki now realizes her mind is blown
[00:45:59] <AzumaHazuki> oh man, fuck everything about that
[01:18:24] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: re: data speed. In ~1984 I was testing the IBM VM operating system on their biggest and fasted computer ever. Two prototypes existed in the world at that time. I had it to myself for may 8-hour shifts. It could support 1,000 simultaneous users. I ran a "paging spider" and got it to generate a bug... The "indicate user" command had a 3-digit field for pages-per-second and I was the first person to get the field to overflow!
[01:18:24] <Bytram> Over 999 4KB pages per second.
[01:20:12] <Bytram> That was on a machine the size of 3 commercial refrigerators and was water-cooled. If memory serves, that machine went for ~$10 million or so.
[01:25:19] <AzumaHazuki> and it ran uphill in the snow (actually the accumulated punchcard debris of years) both ways and liked it? =P
[01:30:59] <Bytram> At that time, that was the limits of technology. And it was mindblowing! And, now, (well, in a year or two) you'll be able to buy something more than 2,000 times faster -- that fits in a PC -- and for orders of magnitude less money, too!
[01:31:15] <Bytram> THAT boggles *MY* mind. =)
[01:36:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sleep Evolved Before Brains. Hydras are Living Proof. - https://sylnt.us - they-overheard-them-snoring
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[02:29:13] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://arstechnica.com from the can-we-call-the-GOP-a-literal-death-cult-NOW?! dept.
[02:29:14] <AzumaHazuki> jesus
[02:29:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Ohio Lawmakers Want to Abolish Vaccine Requirements" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[02:43:12] <Bytram> =w kent state
[02:43:13] <systemd> Kent State University (KSU) is a public research university in Kent, Ohio. The university also includes seven regional campuses in Northeast Ohio and - https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:43:31] <Bytram> =w kent state protest shooting
[02:43:32] <systemd> Kent State shootings, also known as the May 4 massacre and the Kent State massacre, were the killings of four and wounding of nine other unarmed Kent - https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:10:27] <Runaway1956> Was Yahoo news taken over by the enquirer?
[03:10:31] <Runaway1956> https://news.yahoo.com
[03:10:42] <systemd> ^ 03'It took two people to lift him out': Mum gives birth to two foot tall baby
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[04:07:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Asahi Linux Dev Reveals "M1RACLES" Flaw in Apple M1, Pokes Fun at Similar Flaws - https://sylnt.us
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[04:29:36] <Runaway1956> Huh - Tamir Rice in the news after all these years
[04:29:48] <Runaway1956> https://www.theroot.com
[04:29:49] <systemd> ^ 03Mother of Tamir Rice Fighting to Prevent Officer Who Shot Her Son From Getting His Job Back
[04:30:03] <Runaway1956> Hell, I think I just submit that
[04:30:15] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.theroot.com
[04:30:17] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Mother of Tamir Rice Fighting to Prevent Officer Who Shot Her Son From Getting His Job Back" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:30:38] * Runaway1956 suspects a lot of people will ask "Tamir who?"
[04:34:57] <Sulla> V-280 Valor or SB-1 Defiant?
[04:35:51] <Runaway1956> ??
[04:36:10] <Sulla> your preferred blackhawk replacement
[04:38:07] <Runaway1956> The valor looks kinda futuristic
[04:38:33] <Runaway1956> Defiant looks badass
[04:38:55] <Runaway1956> but it has that Russian's name on it, so it's out . . .
[04:39:22] <Runaway1956> Then again, I have a grudge or two against Bell . . . fuck them
[04:40:49] <Sulla> why
[04:41:38] <Runaway1956> Bell shares a name with Bell motorcycle helmets, who destroyed Vetter, world renowned manufacturer of motorcycle fairings
[04:44:32] <FatPhil> Tamir who?
[04:44:52] <Runaway1956> Must be a liberal - or a Trumper
[04:51:11] <Sulla> amazon warehouse is useful
[04:51:24] <Sulla> 100 dollar philips mechanical laptop for 10 bucks iwth "damaged box"
[04:51:28] <Sulla> perfect for pcb harvest
[04:51:36] <Sulla> unfortunately it has the cancer of leds i had to remove
[04:52:04] <Sulla> little disturbed as the pcb is super bendable
[04:52:28] <Runaway1956> I was just searching for a damaged box - is it necessary that I get something in it?
[04:53:04] <Sulla> probably
[04:53:14] <Sulla> cherry blue switches are cancer
[04:58:23] <Runaway1956> for fun, I searched amazon for "box of air"
[04:58:37] <Runaway1956> this is a notable stupid thing I found
[04:58:43] <Runaway1956> https://www.amazon.com
[04:58:55] <Sulla> ew
[04:59:24] <Sulla> really enjoying the cultivate addon
[05:01:29] <Runaway1956> Then, there's the "geometric" terrarium
[05:01:56] <Runaway1956> unless your terrarium exists in an alternate dimension, they're ALL geometric!
[05:05:06] <FatPhil> down with geometric terrorism
[05:10:23] <Runaway1956> Back to helicopters - I didn't know there was a helicopter big enough to carry 127 people
[05:10:36] <Runaway1956> https://en.wikipedia.org
[05:10:37] <systemd> ^ 032002 Khankala Mi-26 crash - Wikipedia
[05:12:11] <Sulla> down in the specifications it lists 90 troops and 5 crew as capacity
[05:12:36] <Runaway1956> The article specifies that the chopper was overloaded
[05:13:05] <Runaway1956> when it says 90 troops, we might presume it means soldiers equipped with at least light infantry gear
[05:13:08] <Sulla> attempting to abandon the wrecked Mi-26, are reported to have been killed by 'friendly' anti-personnel mine explosions."
[05:13:12] <Sulla> if thats what friendly mines do
[05:13:17] <Sulla> i sure dont hope to meet hostile ones
[05:13:59] <Sulla> not sure that being overloaded would have made a diffrence to a missile strike
[05:14:10] <Sulla> unless their speed was decreased due to being overloaded
[05:14:18] <Sulla> or i guess increased during the crash landing
[05:14:48] <Runaway1956> I'm just kinda amazed that a chopper was that big
[05:15:08] <Runaway1956> biggest chopper I've ever seen is a skyhook,
[05:15:24] <Sulla> chinook lists max as 55 troops and 3 crew
[05:15:32] <Runaway1956> don't see how you could fit that many men (with equipment) into it, even if it had a fuselage
[05:16:49] <Sulla> defiant videos i saw also showed an alternate version with smaller tail
[05:17:05] <Sulla> im just sad no commanche because it looked sweet
[05:17:09] <Runaway1956> most men like a little tail
[05:19:14] <Sulla> defiant reached 240 mph, max speed of comanchee was191
[05:19:42] <Sulla> valor top speeed 350
[05:19:59] <Runaway1956> 350 knots, mph, or kilometers?
[05:20:01] <Sulla> Seems to me they would likely have different roles
[05:20:02] <Sulla> mph
[05:20:16] <Runaway1956> That's a damned fast helicopter
[05:20:30] <Sulla> valor is a streamlined ospre
[05:21:04] <Sulla> so its top speed is essentialy no different than a normal turboprop
[05:21:21] <Sulla> the defiant would likley be faster in an actual combat situation
[05:22:26] <Sulla> valor has combat range of 920mi max
[05:22:59] <Sulla> cant find info n the defiant
[05:24:32] <Sulla> For the various US actions in Iraq. I think the Defiant would have been better suited to gulf war I, and Valor to gulf war II. Defiant from videos would perform much better in a strictly combat sense, the valor much better for troop movements, quick deployments, one-off strikes
[05:26:16] <Sulla> https://weaponsandwarfare.com
[05:26:17] <systemd> ^ 03Defiant Vs. Valor
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[05:47:26] <Sulla> Runaway, you knowledgable at all on the capibility of drones?
[05:50:23] <Sulla> takyon: you around?
[05:50:38] <Runaway1956> nope, not really
[05:50:59] <Sulla> I'm trying to figure out if something i saw a few years ago was a drone, and if so, what drone it might have been
[05:51:23] <Runaway1956> I'm the wrong person to ask
[05:51:27] <Sulla> For a few months back in 2018 or so I saw these flashing dots in the sky at night
[05:51:37] <Sulla> when driving my buddy to work when we were smoking cigars
[05:51:39] <Runaway1956> Can we safely say it was a UFO?
[05:51:50] <Sulla> I assume it was a drone, just dont know what kind
[05:51:55] <Runaway1956> Havana cigars, or Columbian?
[05:52:04] <Sulla> Nicaraguan
[05:52:12] <Runaway1956> Oh shit . . .
[05:53:07] <Sulla> One night one of them was pretty close, fairly near the top of a tree on my street. Drove buddy to work and noticed it was out by the airport. Had some cigar left so ended up following it. Ended up following it for an hour as it headed north before it finally disapeared out of sight
[05:53:33] <Sulla> Truck sized, had to have a decent battery, and fast with ability to stop on a dime
[05:53:46] <Sulla> dont know what drones would fall into this category
[05:53:58] <Sulla> followed it 40 or so miles
[05:54:04] <Runaway1956> I'm stuck on the cigar - would the drone have been there if you didn't have a cigar burning?
[05:54:35] <Sulla> I wouldn't have been out at night had i not been smoking
[05:54:58] <Runaway1956> Hmmmm . . . .
[05:56:15] <Sulla> I had the airport finance manager ask around to see if they had anything in for the past few months related to the military and they said no
[05:56:37] <kyonko`> its always a cigar
[05:56:40] <Sulla> they asked around and said nothing out of the normal, i ask them this failry often so i can go watch cool planes with the kids
[05:57:00] <Sulla> I assumed it was some test drones out of K-Falls
[05:59:19] <FatPhil> Lori Lightfoot - do politicians get any stupider?
[05:59:51] <chromas> no
[06:02:29] <Sulla> Did see what looked like the TR-3 out of K-falls a few years back, cool as hell
[06:02:53] <kyonko`> FatPhil: fake freedom it is
[06:03:26] <kyonko`> remember, they hate us for our freedom, and we have to fight them over there, so we dont fight them over here
[06:04:00] <kyonko`> 10pm curfew for liquor sales.... why do bars that don't serve food even exist this century?
[06:04:21] <kyonko`> but your uber is going to profit from totalitarian anti-human law
[06:04:23] <chromas> "lightfoot" reminded me of litestep for windows
[06:04:46] <kyonko`> fat32 sucks big ass
[06:05:12] <chromas> it's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do it
[06:05:23] <kyonko`> suction the buttocks
[06:05:28] <kyonko`> N95
[06:05:43] <kyonko`> guys, everythings back to normal
[06:05:49] <kyonko`> because joe biden
[06:05:59] <Runaway1956> normal sucks
[06:06:06] <kyonko`> i'm going to be the step dad of the 2nd coming of christ!
[06:06:27] <kyonko`> scratch that, I think we can actually do a test tube 2nd coming now
[06:06:50] <chromas> step dad? #CuckedByGod
[06:07:10] <kyonko`> yes
[06:07:22] <kyonko`> cucked since 2021 years ago
[06:07:35] <chromas> didn't he already cumback?
[06:07:43] <kyonko`> mary was of prime reproductive age, and wedded to an old man
[06:07:49] <Runaway1956> que quck qlan?
[06:07:52] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[06:07:54] <systemd> ^ 03Jesus Jones - Right Here Right Now (Official Music Video)
[06:08:02] <chromas> see he came back for the '80s
[06:08:14] <kyonko`> FatPhil: how many beers before you get a DUI in estonia?
[06:08:20] <kyonko`> e-stania
[06:08:26] <kyonko`> the nation of the e-girl
[06:09:12] <chromas> do they have cars there?
[06:09:22] <kyonko`> we should be able to find the blood line of christ with mary magdalen, since there will be a lot of /dev/zero's trickling down to this day
[06:09:38] <kyonko`> chromas: yes they have cars, but they are tied to powerlines
[06:09:58] <kyonko`> you can only drive tethered to the powerline
[06:10:22] <FatPhil> kyonko`: bugger all, we have one of the lowest legal limits I know of
[06:10:47] <FatPhil> I'm not 100% sure what it is numerically, as I don't drive.
[06:11:05] <kyonko`> but you do drink
[06:11:19] <kyonko`> here you are forced to drink AND drive
[06:11:23] <kyonko`> or the veterans died for nothing
[06:11:45] <FatPhil> I thought it was 32oz steaks that were compulsory
[06:11:49] <kyonko`> its fucking hilarious in the past 20 years when the police state waives mass public intoxication
[06:12:11] <kyonko`> the police are going to be apeshit as fuck this weekend
[06:12:24] <FatPhil> what's so special about this weekend?
[06:12:40] <kyonko`> idk, its been a tradition since every 15 year generation
[06:12:47] <kyonko`> since americans have kids at 15
[06:13:23] <kyonko`> 1 year ago, they did a colin kaepernick knee on the neck of body building brutha george floyd
[06:13:23] <FatPhil> so you're jealous of our age of consent, eh?
[06:13:32] <kyonko`> wait what?
[06:13:33] <FatPhil> we've got more sexual freedoms!
[06:13:38] <kyonko`> oh so estonia is czech liberal
[06:13:43] <chromas> what's the point of a low age of consent if you can't even drink-drive?
[06:14:13] <kyonko`> well, we have kyle rittenhouse who shot a pedophile with a gun he was too young to legally posess
[06:14:33] <kyonko`> high estrogen male kyle rittenhouse
[06:14:41] <FatPhil> if the kids were to be doing 2 illegal things, that would take twice the paperwork - this is a police workload optimisation
[06:14:58] <Runaway1956> Actually, Kyle's age had nothing to do with the legality of his ownership
[06:14:58] <kyonko`> humanity has been illegal since 9-11
[06:15:05] <chromas> Same reason we don't outlawy guns
[06:15:10] <kyonko`> i'm sick of you believing guns are a god given right, Runaway1956
[06:15:28] <chromas> no reason to prosecute a murder if you're already putting 'em away for posession
[06:15:31] <Runaway1956> I'm sick of you being sick, but that has nothing to do with anything
[06:15:38] <FatPhil> I think he thinks it's a piece-of-paper given right, no?
[06:16:02] <kyonko`> no fucking way I'm messing with whatever eastern european liberal sex laws there are
[06:16:13] <Runaway1956> If Kyle's parents had purchased the gun, instead of his buddy, he would have been legal
[06:16:15] <kyonko`> but i'm not surprised estonia is as liberal as czech republic
[06:16:42] <kyonko`> the whole region is turbo liberal
[06:16:47] <FatPhil> I think the czechs have at least debated coming more in line with the rest of the EU
[06:16:49] <kyonko`> and yeah, czechs have guns
[06:17:02] <kyonko`> humans have guns
[06:17:09] <kyonko`> humans build guns, with science
[06:17:17] <chromas> czechs off guns
[06:17:17] <kyonko`> nothing to do with money jew god yhwh
[06:17:28] <Runaway1956> If a person owns no guns, is he still human?
[06:17:48] <kyonko`> i think the determination of being humans begins at how many children you refuse to care for
[06:17:51] <kyonko`> (or parents)
[06:18:20] <kyonko`> care for your kids, care for your parents, check off a will/advanced directive for yourself
[06:18:43] <kyonko`> problem is, old people can't be caried easily or at all like you can a baby/toddler
[06:19:25] <Runaway1956> They're easier to carry if you amputate appendages, and put them on a diet
[06:19:31] <kyonko`> I know the whole story about russian orphanages
[06:19:37] <kyonko`> Runaway1956: still heavy
[06:19:42] <kyonko`> hydrated bones
[06:20:13] <kyonko`> RT had a european memorial day special on repatriation of dead german soldier bones in tiny caskets
[06:20:30] <kyonko`> tiny wooden caskets with I think, a complete human skeleton
[06:20:42] <kyonko`> an average healthy man could carry it in his arms like a child
[06:21:30] <kyonko`> complete dehydrated mineralized bones
[06:21:31] <Runaway1956> I watch too much youtube -
[06:21:40] <Runaway1956> just learned that the moon is inside out . . .
[06:21:47] <kyonko`> do they still have surgeries and cadaver dissections on youtube?
[06:22:11] <Runaway1956> never looked for either
[06:22:25] <kyonko`> you should, it gives you a knew understanding of what you are
[06:23:00] <kyonko`> a minority of these people put it in their wills they wish to be anatomical studies
[06:23:18] <kyonko`> people really believe they will walk out of their casket one day in the future
[06:23:23] <kyonko`> thats why I am a loner
[06:23:47] <Runaway1956> You're a boner? FatPhil does boners
[06:23:56] <kyonko`> FatPhil has his daily grind
[06:24:01] <kyonko`> fupa
[06:24:59] <kyonko`> its funny how the police in japan aren't bound by law in limits of their power
[06:25:21] <kyonko`> neither are they in CCP china
[06:25:29] <Runaway1956> In the US, citizens aren't bound either
[06:25:40] <kyonko`> the law in the US applies to ruler and ruled alike
[06:25:51] <Runaway1956> if you want to be bound, you have to hire a dominatrix
[06:25:56] <kyonko`> its one of the few countries in history to be such
[06:26:41] <kyonko`> I really believed when 911 happened tyranny would only last for 8 years
[06:26:49] <kyonko`> the son of a bitch was going for 2 terms obviously
[06:27:45] <kyonko`> people talked at work how bush and ashcroft were only going to be 8 years
[06:27:54] <kyonko`> and then ron paul ran for president
[06:27:56] <kyonko`> and nobody cared
[06:28:58] <kyonko`> hell rand paul got beat up by his neighbor from behind mowing the lawn and nobody cared
[06:29:07] <kyonko`> a serious beating, collapsed lung from broken ribs
[06:29:21] <kyonko`> I totally need a gun to protect myself from being rear ended
[06:30:18] <kyonko`> can't wait for cyborgs that sacrifice a hemisphere of their brain to have a revolving gun installed in their eye socket and cranial cavity
[06:30:28] <kyonko`> "the half brains"
[06:30:47] <Runaway1956> I could go for that
[06:32:31] <kyonko`> you would also be fed from a feeding tube in your nose
[06:33:11] <kyonko`> half brains have computer controlled revolvers in their eye socket, so they rarely miss, they factor for wind with sensors
[06:33:29] <kyonko`> they also have an eye on their rear skull
[06:33:47] <Runaway1956> Why would they have revolvers?
[06:33:57] <Runaway1956> Belt fed automatics, or lasers
[06:33:59] <kyonko`> engineered to compensate for ejecting brass
[06:34:26] <Runaway1956> cyborgs with frikkin LASERS!
[06:34:33] <kyonko`> the head opens up like a 2000's mac tower
[06:35:09] <kyonko`> sci-fi doesn't have to make sense lol
[06:36:55] <kyonko`> are lasers replacements for guns?
[06:37:20] <kyonko`> the whole gun ideal is to get a laser like trajectory
[06:37:26] <kyonko`> but lasers don't get moved by wind
[06:37:30] <kyonko`> or gravity
[06:37:44] <kyonko`> thats why the ar-15 is the ideal gun
[06:38:08] <kyonko`> don't touch a gun, you die
[06:38:14] <kyonko`> don't touch another human, you die
[06:38:25] <kyonko`> covid code 2020
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[06:47:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mars Helicopter Suffered Glitch During Flight, Forced Emergency Landing - https://sylnt.us - not-dead-yet!
[06:48:19] <mrpg> =g airwolf
[06:48:20] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Airwolf - Wikipedia
[06:51:15] <Sulla> One model m cleaned, only 12 left to go
[06:54:16] <chromas> model Ms are just inferior model Fs
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[06:56:27] <Sulla> Truth. But i only have one model f
[06:56:31] <Sulla> and 13 model ms
[06:57:57] <kyonko`> FatPhil: what did you do this time, your country is in the news again
[06:58:19] <kyonko`> the mars helicopter is so tiny, it isn't quite wind proof
[06:58:39] <kyonko`> the martian wind has never been captured on film
[06:58:49] <kyonko`> quantum wind
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[07:02:06] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[07:02:08] <systemd> ^ 03Piano Man but interest was quickly lost
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[07:15:51] <mrpg> #freeTMB
[07:17:53] <aristarchus> #free TMC!
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[07:24:51] <kyonko`> alex jones made it to tmz
[07:24:56] <kyonko`> a dv and dwi
[07:25:15] <kyonko`> no wonder he keeps saying he's going to jail
[07:28:53] <aristarchus> Crazy is entertaining. Just look at the British Royals!
[07:39:51] <aristarchus> Or, the deposed Korean R0yals taking over Freenod, or the Prince of Nonce, NCommander, doing what a Prince does.
[07:57:40] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[07:57:42] <systemd> ^ 03'The Star Wars That I Used To Know' - Gotye 'Somebody That I Used To Know' Parody
[08:13:35] <raxas> freenode is nothing compared to here reality. the Lichtenstein princes are taking over Moravia (again). they have politicians in Brno already in their pockets so this time they'll get the whole territory. except for moravian vallachia, which is already belonging to arab sheiks
[08:13:58] <Sulla> Best or worst koreans
[08:15:16] <kyonko`> Brno
[08:15:22] <kyonko`> esperantostan
[08:16:55] <kyonko`> 640k is bonkers!
[08:17:52] <raxas> my grandmother was a proud moravian, but I don't care about that bear-and-wolves infested wasteland anymore
[08:18:48] <Sulla> Chromas: I'm going to be gone after tomorrow due to end of mirc 30 day free period, want me to send you a sampler of different keyboard switches? i have many spares
[08:19:39] <chromas> Nah, I'm just gonna go with those purples or whatever you suggested before
[08:19:48] <chromas> I'll go check the scrollback to find out what it was
[08:20:08] <kyonko`> is this the carpathias?>
[08:20:09] <Sulla> the tacticle royals or the clicky navys/jades?
[08:20:15] <Sulla> kalih
[08:20:24] <chromas> The only thing now is I'm looking for some blank keycaps or something for the 13–24 and extra keys
[08:20:33] <chromas> yeah royals
[08:21:08] <Sulla> Id suggest buying one to make sure you like it before you buy a set. but they are pretty nice
[08:21:18] <chromas> Going with SA, MT3 or one of the other 'retro' cap styles
[08:21:31] <Sulla> i like the ones from the beamspring you pointed me to
[08:21:37] <Sulla> i got the white ones and i'm super satisfied
[08:23:42] <raxas> kyonko`:no, moravian vallachia is a small territory in moravia where a small tribe from carpathia came to settle in middle age
[08:23:47] <chromas> looks like you can reset the mirc trial by deleting a key in the windows registry
[08:24:13] <Sulla> lol
[08:24:47] <raxas> https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:24:48] <systemd> ^ 03Moravian Wallachia - Wikipedia
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[08:25:15] <chromas> someone else says you can just click continue on the nag screen after a few seconds
[08:25:27] <kyonko`> This isn't Mondovia?
[08:25:44] <kyonko`> that other ethnic romanian state
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[08:26:16] <Sulla> Yeah that worked
[08:26:51] <kyonko`> Moldova
[08:27:53] <chromas> someone else says you can just click continue on the nag screen after a few seconds
[08:28:06] <chromas> now you can never leave me!
[08:28:09] <Sulla> https://www.youtube.com
[08:28:10] <systemd> ^ 03Zlad! - Elektronik Supersonik HD BEST QUALITY Remastered Sound
[08:28:35] <kyonko`> I saw a documentary on tv called "ceski sen"
[08:28:46] <raxas> no. Moldova is somewhere over seven mountains and seven rivers away, essentially at infinity distance
[08:28:48] <kyonko`> about how easy it is to fool people covid19 style
[08:29:48] <kyonko`> is this where the bugerians from tintin are?
[08:36:13] * kyonko` is gonna brew some dank covfefe
[08:36:34] <kyonko`> 0xcovfefe
[08:41:06] <raxas> "Český sen" was a parody on consumerism, technically a hoax. but those idiot filmmakers were already lynched badly in more than one case
[08:43:00] <raxas> https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:43:01] <systemd> ^ 03Czech Dream - Wikipedia
[08:45:20] <FatPhil> just reading that now - I've got to see that!
[08:45:28] <FatPhil> Do you know The Yes Men?
[08:47:11] <kyonko`> only the gay guy knew what was going on
[08:47:20] <kyonko`> "we're all cattle"
[08:49:52] <raxas> guerilla art is a thing here https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:49:53] <systemd> ^ 03Ztohoven - Wikipedia
[08:51:56] <kyonko`> why is your country so liberal
[08:52:07] <kyonko`> is it because of all the 20th century repression?
[08:56:53] <raxas> I don't believe in "repression". nor in "liberalism", those are just... images
[08:57:06] <FatPhil> https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:57:07] <systemd> ^ 03The Yes Men - Wikipedia
[08:57:19] <aristarchus> just west of Slovakia. Slightly less Slav.
[08:59:41] <FatPhil> they make good mead in that part of the world
[09:00:03] <raxas> yes, we pay tribute to german crusaders since 9th century. I consider prince Václav, a national legendary idol, a traitor
[09:00:51] <kyonko`> in arizona we have a lake mead, made by the hoover dam
[09:01:24] <kyonko`> mmmmmmead
[09:01:28] <FatPhil> not to be confused with fort meade
[09:01:41] <kyonko`> aztecs made a mead like substance
[09:01:49] <kyonko`> its not very popular today
[09:01:56] <kyonko`> (compared to other ancient activities)
[09:02:21] <kyonko`> I was seriously expecting public human sacrifices during the first 3 months of global covid lockdown
[09:02:29] <kyonko`> maybe next time, whatever that is
[09:03:21] <Sulla> Not sure what else you would call MI, NY, and NJ policies on nursing homes if not human sacrifice
[09:03:39] <kyonko`> well, those are death panels
[09:03:48] <aristarchus> The bone chapels in Bohemia Suggest a residual Celtic culture.
[09:03:51] <kyonko`> they have been publically known since mccain-palin vs. obama-biden 2009
[09:04:13] <kyonko`> I can't believe nobody mentioned the death panelling of all those geezers
[09:04:13] <Sulla> I prefer oregon's death panals
[09:04:19] <kyonko`> (besides innoculating babies)
[09:04:37] <Sulla> at least the OHP would send you a letter offering you financial assistance with assisted suicide when they cut off your cancer drugs due to cost
[09:04:47] <kyonko`> when I was a young man in the 2000's, there was none of this chad-incel crap
[09:05:24] <kyonko`> arizona has had the whole female priests and euthanasia thing since the 2000's
[09:05:39] <Sulla> Memes were still in their infancy, that was before the ancient deathcult of kek had been revived for le epic mamays
[09:05:57] <kyonko`> my first meme was the ww2 soldier offering you a fresh cup of shut the fuck up
[09:06:14] <kyonko`> i still have it on a bitrot drive somewhere
[09:06:53] <Sulla> Though not until much later. I think the mama mia loading a gun with penne pasta and "this is fine" dog drinking coffee while house burns were best
[09:07:01] <Sulla> that and naturally george with the bat
[09:08:52] <aristarchus> Too insane. Need Runawsy for sanity, which means things have gone too far crazy. Bye.
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[09:11:45] <Sulla> https://i.kym-cdn.com
[09:12:00] <Sulla> ty aristarchus for doing something worthy of costanza posting
[09:12:19] <kyonko`> runaway nitration in biotech
[09:12:32] <kyonko`> leave it zumiez to mention dinitrophenol
[09:12:49] <kyonko`> or was it ammonium picrate?
[09:14:12] <kyonko`> all bsd installers are retarded
[09:16:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Many Antibodies are Needed for Protection from COVID-19? - https://sylnt.us - if-there-are-antibodies-are-there-also-unclebodies?
[09:16:40] <raxas> that's by design. a treshold barrier to prevent non-adequate people from enetering the bsd reality
[09:17:02] <kyonko`> you know, suse is pretty sweet
[09:17:18] <kyonko`> too bad it doesn't come with a compiler by default
[09:18:01] <kyonko`> I spent 2 and a half hours zeroing a 64gb usb stick drive
[09:18:20] <kyonko`> because of the retarded bsd installer, all of them are the same
[09:18:56] <raxas> I know suse people personally, several of them. when they came fresh young from military and intelligence background. I would not touch suse with a hay rake
[09:19:28] <kyonko`> hahahahah really?
[09:19:34] <kyonko`> so you know them since they were jurix?
[09:19:46] <kyonko`> I remember the bad days of the 2010's
[09:19:55] <kyonko`> the bnd buildings with the root shell
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[09:20:04] <kyonko`> that was so creepy
[09:20:14] <kyonko`> or maybe its the monkey cage
[09:20:47] <kyonko`> raxas: are you an openbsd freak?
[09:20:58] <FatPhil> The Tux sitting on my windowsill is a Suse one.
[09:21:14] <kyonko`> the moldy tux
[09:21:16] <FatPhil> chrissy pressie from my g/f back in ~2000.
[09:21:21] <kyonko`> or is this the yeast tux?
[09:21:59] * kyonko` can't recall the bioweapon code letters
[09:22:04] <raxas> I am on freebsd mostly since I left gentoo in 2014 or so. before gentoo, I used mandrake. debian 2.1 was my first linux on 386
[09:22:16] <FatPhil> Suse had the best support for my DEC Alpha back then. But being OSS, it filtered into Debian eventually.
[09:22:29] <kyonko`> do you still have the dec alpha?
[09:22:47] <FatPhil> Nope, it blew up in a ball of lightning
[09:22:52] <kyonko`> no shit
[09:23:38] <FatPhil> OK, it could have been the UPS it was plugged into that filled the room with the bright blue glow, but it never booted again after that
[09:28:52] <kyonko`> oh man
[09:29:01] <kyonko`> why did you bring in fissile material home
[09:29:06] <kyonko`> (if this was home)
[09:29:56] <raxas> kyonko`: I have touched many machines and architectures with my own hands. my first job was at Sperry*Univac U90/30 mainframe datacenter in 80's, advancing from lowest operator upto system administrator, toplevel caste
[09:30:41] <raxas> but alpha, I touched only a wreckage being decomissioned somewhere
[09:32:28] <raxas> but my very first computer experience at age 14 was an EC1040, an IBM370 clone. wrote a PL/I program on that, my first one
[09:34:35] <kyonko`> my first computer was a pc at clone
[09:34:52] <kyonko`> it had vga
[09:34:55] <FatPhil> ZX81, then ZXSpectrum, then Atari520ST
[09:36:15] <kyonko`> uh oh, cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdb doesn't repond to ^C
[09:36:31] <kyonko`> not in the mood of 2 and a half hours of this crap
[09:36:49] <kyonko`> or maybe I can just let it be
[09:37:01] <kyonko`> i'm already letting my shitty life "be"
[09:37:19] <kyonko`> I made a mistake with freebsd 13 install regarding laptop stuff, it won't boot
[09:37:22] <FatPhil> hey, jude
[09:38:14] <FatPhil> you chouldn't cat - you should dd instead
[09:38:24] <kyonko`> raxas: so you were a kid back in 1968?
[09:38:31] <kyonko`> yeah I could dd
[09:38:37] <kyonko`> but cat worked
[09:39:19] <kyonko`> i think the fun thing of the pc at days was how you could imagine all the different things you could do something
[09:39:41] <kyonko`> the vga card did most of the computing
[09:42:02] <raxas> at age 5, I liked the tanks live on streets, actually. more fun than war movies on tv... parents did not shared the enthusiasm though
[09:43:29] <kyonko`> I never liked religion
[09:43:40] <kyonko`> or the responsibilities of being a man
[09:44:05] <kyonko`> I was expecting some shit like prague '68 during the summer of covid19
[09:44:30] <kyonko`> the local news said some bullshit that 2020 was peak year for mass shootings, 620, a peak in a baseline of previous years
[09:44:40] <kyonko`> maybe because of the kyle rittenhouse theater
[09:44:44] <kyonko`> theater where you die for real
[09:45:23] <raxas> those illuminati lodges operate differently these days than they did before
[09:45:24] <kyonko`> i'm actually feeling quite shitty this week, because the news will report all the road rage shootings
[09:45:50] <raxas> they prefer a new model of silent destruction
[09:46:18] <kyonko`> every memorial day, people shoot each other
[09:47:08] <kyonko`> this is the first year we're had a shortage of ammo
[09:47:08] <raxas> but that does not work on easterners, only on westerners. which is fun to observe how they shoot themselves in all foots continually
[09:47:37] <kyonko`> america imported ammo from all over the world, biggest exporter was russia
[09:47:43] <kyonko`> but we also got serbia and czech republic
[09:48:06] <kyonko`> before the gun rules, we even got all kinds of junk from europe and china
[09:48:13] <raxas> did you noticed the Česká Zbrojovka (CZ) bought Colt last week?
[09:48:20] <kyonko`> no I didn't
[09:48:25] <kyonko`> what does that mean?
[09:48:36] <kyonko`> I just know the cz pistol designs are copied... how is that legal?
[09:49:11] <kyonko`> heh, why do guns sound so funny in legal speak
[09:49:34] <raxas> https://www.guns.com
[09:49:35] <systemd> ^ 03It's Official: CZ Acquires Colt :: Guns.com
[09:50:50] <raxas> when murica is selling out its core MIC industry, that means it's over
[09:51:14] <kyonko`> I know italy makes cheap copies of the cz high cap pistol
[09:51:24] <kyonko`> copied modifications
[09:51:57] <kyonko`> I'm not even sure what my legal status is for owning firearms
[09:52:02] <kyonko`> its all limbo here
[09:52:12] <kyonko`> but I do expect to be detained and search by police any time
[09:52:51] <kyonko`> latin american countries never had a right to keep and bear arms
[09:53:05] <kyonko`> but they have had them since european colonization
[09:53:29] <kyonko`> is it a firecracker or is it a gunshot?
[09:53:31] <FatPhil> raxas, where did you grow up - with all the chat about .cz this morning, I presume Prague?
[09:53:50] <kyonko`> he speaks of the wasteland of bears and wolves
[09:53:53] <raxas> yes, that's my city
[09:54:03] <kyonko`> prague has nice whores
[09:54:21] <raxas> those came from ukraine mostly
[09:55:56] <kyonko`> FatPhil: what did you do this time? your country is in the news again!
[09:56:46] <kyonko`> isn't your president a covid denier?
[10:12:08] <FatPhil> i didn't know we are in the news - what do the headlines say
[10:12:34] <FatPhil> we have fucknuts at the top, but definitely covid deniers.
[10:15:18] <kyonko`> it says planes are going around your country, not over it
[10:15:48] <FatPhil> you've confused me for Belarus, perhaps?
[10:16:18] <kyonko`> the biggest things I remember from my 2010's alcoholism is: kaliningrad
[10:16:42] <kyonko`> I liked euronews, don't know if it turned to shit
[10:16:43] <kyonko`> did it?
[10:16:47] <kyonko`> it wasn't for 20 years
[10:17:15] <kyonko`> when the iraq war went bad, they just stopped reporting it
[10:17:25] <kyonko`> (in the us)
[10:17:33] <FatPhil> euronews was good in the 90s
[10:17:41] <kyonko`> so I guess they had a good 30 year run
[10:17:45] <kyonko`> because now all news is shit
[10:18:06] <kyonko`> I don't like the milquetoast psychology behind RT and CGTN
[10:18:49] <FatPhil> don't know CGTN
[10:19:37] <kyonko`> it replaced CCTV on my satellite receiver
[10:21:40] <kyonko`> tv is really expensive, getting more expensive
[10:21:49] <kyonko`> internet is really slow, getting slower
[10:27:34] <FatPhil> we don't have a TV contract, there's alost nothing we miss, and we aren't prepared to pay for a 40 channel bundle for 20 F1 races a year
[10:28:11] <FatPhil> we go to the local pub if we want to watch F1 live
[10:32:39] <kyonko`> we have bars here, bars you have to drive to on a car
[10:32:50] <kyonko`> they also don't serve food, so nothing for the sober designated driver to do
[10:32:54] <kyonko`> hail satan!
[10:33:24] <kyonko`> nobody, and I mean nobody, ever did designated driving, even tho the legal consequences can ruin your life
[10:33:26] <FatPhil> stop leaking my wifi password
[10:33:46] <kyonko`> its hail%20satan! ?
[10:34:00] <FatPhil> without the space
[10:34:36] <FatPhil> but nobody needs to hack my wifi password, as I also serve an open connection
[10:34:48] <kyonko`> back when they were slowly boiling the frog, they started stripping our human freedoms degree by degree after 911
[10:35:47] <FatPhil> attempts to restrict freedoms predate that.
[10:35:52] <FatPhil> remember the clipper chip?
[10:35:58] <kyonko`> hmm yeah
[10:36:03] <FatPhil> and the PGP book
[10:36:04] <kyonko`> that was the 1990's
[10:36:10] <FatPhil> OCR-able
[10:36:14] <kyonko`> that was the first thing I saw when I got online as a kid
[10:36:18] <kyonko`> circa 1997
[10:36:55] <kyonko`> I do know how do do proper encryption and even tho its illegal, defend myself
[10:37:56] <kyonko`> the only reason guns are tolerated in the united states is that the state expects that you will work for them
[10:38:47] <kyonko`> i think the eff blue ribbon campaign gifs still exist on archive.org
[10:38:52] <kyonko`> they were really small files
[10:40:52] <FatPhil> The only ribbon I propagated was the ascii-art one against HTML email
[10:41:12] <kyonko`> did you ever use the penet.fi anonymous re-mailer?
[10:41:51] <FatPhil> never needed to, but I was very familiar with it - I was living in .fi at the time
[10:42:34] <raxas> the enforcers are always behind the accessible techlevel. by mere conservatism, which is inherent to any enforcement. keep that in mind. we used 2400/MNP5 modems for transfer when they actually used roadblocks to capture our elusive printed leaflets distribution...
[10:43:32] <raxas> the same is applicable to today's networks. just invent the new technology, new protocols and formats
[10:43:53] <raxas> and when they adapt, just advance again
[10:43:54] <FatPhil> I had a fried who in the 90s had a no-knock police raid that stole all their computer, telephone, and modem equipment.
[10:44:39] <FatPhil> Which horribly oppressive country was this? Somewhere behind the iron curtain? Nah... Italy!
[10:45:16] <raxas> you need backups of course. ever buried a hard disk under the rose flowerbed?
[10:45:37] <FatPhil> he was a member of a political activist group, obviously, it was 100% political.
[10:46:26] <raxas> in any dissent, equipment is disposable
[10:46:29] <kyonko`> ok, couldn't get freebsd 13 to work... but freebsd 12.something did
[10:46:43] <raxas> my grandfather learned that in WW2 resistance
[10:46:52] <kyonko`> that was ugly
[10:46:58] <kyonko`> I still think about the partisans daily
[10:47:16] <kyonko`> mexico tried to establish partisans agains the drug cartels in 2006, they became drug cartels
[10:47:46] <kyonko`> a lot of the yugoslavian partisans wanted private ownership of firearms
[10:47:50] <kyonko`> tito said no
[10:47:56] <kyonko`> do you know that history?
[10:48:24] <kyonko`> the last partisan group in mexico was defeated in 2020
[10:49:39] <kyonko`> now I need to find the last 12 series freebsd
[10:50:16] <kyonko`> I think i'll try it on the uefi dell before I wipe the usb
[10:51:05] <FatPhil> yeah, hardware was just hardware, but it still costs money to replace.
[10:52:49] <kyonko`> i'm not sure I understand this guerilla hardware mindset
[10:53:01] <kyonko`> know how to use, steal it, forget it
[10:53:38] <kyonko`> try to convince a non-violent sheep person that they are not a jelly boned baby when it comes to unarmed resistance
[10:54:25] <kyonko`> mao loved guns for decades, until one day, he didn't
[10:54:44] <kyonko`> he had lived in anarchy for decades, untill the powers that be let him have china
[10:56:28] <kyonko`> freebsd 13 is detecting my physical wifi hardware switch
[10:56:42] <kyonko`> I'm using it on an uefi system
[11:01:59] <kyonko`> i'm starting to get evidence that for samizdat purposes, there is only linux mint
[11:02:26] <kyonko`> you don't know what crazy hardware you will be sticking your usb into
[11:02:53] <raxas> some new systems do not understand legacy mbr boot sectors at all, on these it is necessary to install gpt/efi mode only. also, having separate bootpool and system pool for zfs zpool (which is necessary when using encrypted system) may cause problems with updgrades
[11:07:45] <kyonko`> I've locked myself out with encryption
[11:07:58] <kyonko`> how do you explain this to a modern day partisan?
[11:10:59] <FatPhil> =yt 9RYy_8u4blk
[11:10:59] <kyonko`> and yes I know how ugly it can get if they want to get the passphrase out of you
[11:10:59] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Partisan - Leonard Cohen (05:19; 8,110,979 views; 👍34,389 👎1,137)
[11:11:09] <raxas> do not encrypt the whole system, that's shining to any investigator. encrypt only what's really important
[11:11:32] <raxas> then there is still a chance they never notice
[11:13:02] <kyonko`> its been terrible in the USA since 911
[11:13:10] <kyonko`> people actually believe when the police detains them, they did something wrong
[11:13:11] <raxas> tons of processible junk information is the best slowdown, much better than a pure "no".
[11:13:33] <kyonko`> since 2012, we can be indefinately detained in the united states
[11:14:24] <kyonko`> you heard of the cia blacksite prisons in poland and syria and libya?
[11:14:31] <kyonko`> "we came, we saw, he died"
[11:15:49] <raxas> the most stupid of syria and libya leaders was cooperating with cia, they never expected the betrayal
[11:15:58] <kyonko`> isn't that strange?
[11:16:14] <kyonko`> well, I remember soon after 911, qaddafi and assad let "the US in"
[11:16:22] <kyonko`> do you remember such news?
[11:16:44] <kyonko`> in iraq it wasn't about "letting the US in" it was about saddam hussein leaving power and being tried as a war criminal
[11:17:05] <kyonko`> or maybe I am crazy with this modern history?
[11:19:17] <kyonko`> I vaguely remember hans blix was murdered, was it really this obvious?
[11:19:55] <kyonko`> everyone here was either too busy "becoming rich" or getting revenge against those who believe in the moon god
[11:22:15] <kyonko`> now its coming back
[11:22:35] <kyonko`> either we are too busy "becoming rich" or getting revenge against those who killed our parents/grandparents
[11:22:42] <kyonko`> it can't be that obvious can it?
[11:23:59] <kyonko`> wait for the spin to hit the main stream media than sputnik v is an "innoculation"
[11:24:10] <kyonko`> and long history of slavic slavery
[11:24:24] <kyonko`> we're done as a species
[11:29:48] <kyonko`> FBSD 12.1 released Nov-2019, FBSD 12.2 released Oct-2020
[11:30:01] <kyonko`> these are the ones with the good ext4 abilities
[11:33:15] <kyonko`> the holy grail IS ZFS
[11:33:33] <raxas> certainly
[11:33:48] <kyonko`> but I don't think I can make people under modern day stress understand
[11:34:02] <kyonko`> most normal people just know fat32
[11:35:54] <kyonko`> i'm not normal and it took me years to figure out to store cd/dvd-rom's in ziplock bags
[11:36:02] <raxas> there is a stratification in wisdom/understanding reality at even more huge scale than in social reality
[11:36:18] <raxas> you can't explain everything to everyone
[11:36:36] <kyonko`> I'm going to have to figure out a way to shoehorn ZFS on linux mint
[11:36:53] <kyonko`> and then there is the whole problem of "you don't have root"
[11:36:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ohio Lawmakers Want to Abolish Vaccine Requirements - https://sylnt.us - what-could-go-wrong
[11:37:04] <kyonko`> isn't android linux?
[11:37:05] <kyonko`> yes
[11:37:17] <kyonko`> but I can't become root
[11:37:20] <kyonko`> true
[11:37:25] <kyonko`> then who is root?
[11:37:53] <FatPhil> just boot with flags: init=/bin/sh
[11:37:57] <kyonko`> when I was a kid, the end all was del *.*
[11:37:58] <FatPhil> then you're root
[11:38:39] <kyonko`> I have a lot of usb sticks formatted ext4 that have file permissions for root only
[11:38:50] <kyonko`> universally swappable
[11:39:07] <kyonko`> its perfect, if you have root
[11:39:22] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:39:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5562
[11:39:26] <kyonko`> you can put truecrypt on there
[11:39:30] <Bytram> !uid
[11:39:31] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 14704, owned by banninbaykero
[11:39:49] <kyonko`> did you guys here got truecrypt got satanized?
[11:40:03] <kyonko`> grc.com says truecrypt is still good
[11:42:26] <kyonko`> I don't understand this modern trend of denying root
[11:42:37] <kyonko`> and I like android
[11:42:49] <kyonko`> google is better than microsoft suface and apple ecosystem
[11:43:02] <kyonko`> but you don't have root on termux, no matter how fun it is
[11:44:24] <kyonko`> there is just something heart stopping about seeing that little lock on files in the gui
[11:44:40] <kyonko`> could be encrypted, could be root owned, could be anything
[11:44:44] <raxas> root hell started precisely in a moment when redhat decided to throw out "operator" uid
[11:45:12] <kyonko`> I had a VPS in germany, I know the guy was watching me
[11:45:28] <raxas> "that's not needed on a PC". idiots.
[11:45:28] <kyonko`> I wonder how he is doing these days with the libera keyword filter on freenode
[11:45:46] <kyonko`> he's a schizophrenic working in i.t.
[11:46:04] * Bytram gives up on trying to read scrollback -- what a chatty bunch! =)
[11:46:10] <kyonko`> I'm on irc because I'm fine as a nudist
[11:47:35] <kyonko`> I always thought android denied root because root has total hardware control and that means you got control of the telephone radio
[11:47:41] <kyonko`> used to be known as gsm
[11:48:15] <kyonko`> and the phones are the defacto tracking devices
[11:49:44] <raxas> on phones that was a legal problem: some states require certain technically possible setups on radio must mot be accessible to users, by law. like frequencies reserved for special purposes
[11:50:39] <raxas> so the manufacturers had to lock the access to hardware behind funny software privilegia
[11:51:30] <raxas> the same was with wifi in the beginning, but they all resigned on that long ago
[11:51:45] <kyonko`> in unix root controls the entire hardware
[11:54:12] <kyonko`> what do you think of DRM in FBSD
[11:54:28] <kyonko`> I'm going back to FBSD 12, on boot it always made my speaker "pop"
[11:55:04] <raxas> it's behind linux a lot, if you need good gpu, check the compatible list first
[11:55:28] <raxas> I use efi framebufer for xorg, it is slow but rock stable, indestructible
[11:55:33] <kyonko`> in prague how big is the open source community?
[11:55:58] <raxas> 203 days uptime for xorg desktop today
[11:56:31] <kyonko`> I have a lenovo chrome book made during the recent chip shortage
[11:56:54] <kyonko`> it says: lenovo europe, bratislava slovakia
[11:57:03] <raxas> there are suse and redhat dev centrals in this country
[11:57:17] <raxas> huge teams
[11:57:43] <raxas> freaks, mostly
[11:58:10] <kyonko`> freaks?
[11:58:24] <kyonko`> you mean snowflakes?
[11:59:14] <raxas> not snowflakes. some of them are combat veterans. but they collude with all nato intelligence services all the day
[11:59:42] <kyonko`> combat vets? from afghanistan and iraq?
[12:00:14] <kyonko`> I never understand ISAF and "the coalition"
[12:00:14] <raxas> yugo, as I know
[12:00:32] <raxas> one of the rasons I abandoned linux, after I found a backdoor in libreoffice
[12:00:39] <kyonko`> international security asistance force
[12:00:44] <raxas> but that's a history to me already
[12:00:52] <kyonko`> was the libreoffice back door serious?
[12:01:01] <kyonko`> must have happened around the same time as the openbsd rumors
[12:01:42] <raxas> it produced a yellow dot constellation on a printed document. good for identification
[12:02:01] <kyonko`> I see
[12:02:06] <kyonko`> I've heard a lot about those
[12:02:17] <kyonko`> it seems to only stop the weak
[12:02:22] <kyonko`> the strong do not care
[12:03:02] <kyonko`> I may be known to the intelligence here, they know I stopped caring long ago
[12:03:14] <raxas> I use latex for writing since, and generate spreadsheets in pdf latex by an awk script from raw data
[12:04:14] <kyonko`> whats the big idea over microdotting/taggants in libre office?
[12:04:21] <kyonko`> do they really fear leaflets?
[12:04:27] <raxas> thus they look much better than those printed in any office software, including the Apple ones
[12:04:51] <kyonko`> the unix printing software is.... "out there"
[12:04:54] <raxas> yes, this is a political technology mostly. and industrial espionage/counterespionage
[12:05:32] <kyonko`> a lot of americans do not believe that gun purchases are linked to credit cards, bank debit and social security numbers (for background check against criminal history)
[12:06:46] <kyonko`> joe biden brought the gulag to big data in 1994
[12:06:58] <kyonko`> COME ON MAN
[12:07:18] <kyonko`> they want to collect the guns soon, because they know the last war of human history will be unpopular
[12:08:46] <raxas> as long as they do not collect swords, I am fine with collecting guns
[12:08:54] <kyonko`> hahaha
[12:08:57] <kyonko`> why swords?
[12:09:12] <raxas> sword needs no ammo
[12:09:26] <kyonko`> well, you live in a centuries old tradition of white arms
[12:09:30] <raxas> best weapon for any kind of postapo
[12:09:54] <kyonko`> yeah I know what swords are and do, I've forced myself to learn of human anatomy and physiology
[12:10:09] <kyonko`> a blow a joint, and it gets cleaved
[12:10:42] <kyonko`> I recall the story of the black hand gang when they shot franz ferdinand
[12:11:06] <kyonko`> I think I understood that the gang was beaten with the swords on the polar opposite edge
[12:11:53] <kyonko`> did the landsknecht occupy prague?
[12:12:13] <kyonko`> I found a nasty renessaince wood cut of landsknecht killing babies in a village
[12:14:31] <janrinok> I'm going to have to pause here while I go cut the grass - this is first dry day in weeks!
[12:17:31] <kyonko`> becareful now, never forget rand paul
[12:18:08] <kyonko`> the rand paul beating was typical.... it was heinous
[12:18:26] <kyonko`> you never know when a street fight turns heinous
[12:18:28] <kyonko`> mayhem
[12:21:23] <FatPhil> and suddenly we're back to eating brains again
[12:25:34] <kyonko`> you like varg vikernes?
[12:25:43] <kyonko`> "dead did something totally cool! he killed himself!"
[12:26:41] <kyonko`> varg is going to leave behind a mummy in his fucking log cabin
[12:31:35] <kyonko`> who is the most heinous man of the north?
[12:31:48] <kyonko`> is it anders bering breivik?
[12:31:52] <kyonko`> varg vikernes?
[12:32:00] <kyonko`> or vladimir putin?
[12:33:45] <FatPhil> some drunk husband who beats his wife in Svalbard
[12:35:22] <kyonko`> dude
[12:35:38] <kyonko`> its donald trump
[12:36:18] <FatPhil> not sure if he's heinous, he's just the ultimate in dunning kruger
[12:37:17] <raxas> never heard about vikernes, seems like another confused teuton out there
[12:37:46] <kyonko`> varg ate a bit of his friends brain
[12:38:06] <kyonko`> he went to a very comfortable norwegian prison for "a few years"
[12:38:25] <FatPhil> all norwegian prisons are comfortable
[12:38:32] <kyonko`> what about your prisons?
[12:38:48] <FatPhil> did you see the Moore documentary called ~ /Who should we invade next?/?
[12:38:59] <kyonko`> no I didn't
[12:39:04] <kyonko`> is he making fun of weak states?
[12:39:16] <FatPhil> Normally his documentaries are completely bollocks, but this one was at least vaguely amusing.
[12:39:31] <kyonko`> nobody considers turkey weak
[12:39:46] <raxas> but to me, putin is weak. too rational. he wants to be friend with everyone, even with absolute enemies. if russia did how israel does, it would be afraid of and respected
[12:40:02] <FatPhil> He basically visited a whole range of mostly-scandinavian countries to see how they do things that the US is notoriously bad at doing.
[12:40:07] <kyonko`> lol thats your perspective raxas?
[12:40:12] <raxas> yes
[12:40:14] <kyonko`> just because putin meets with erdogan and MBS
[12:40:49] <kyonko`> in norway and finland you can have guns, just not within the major urban centers
[12:41:00] <kyonko`> thats reasonable
[12:41:12] <FatPhil> Finland's registration laws are brutal.
[12:41:30] <kyonko`> well US guns are shadow registered
[12:41:48] <kyonko`> they know you have them and they can be traced
[12:41:54] <FatPhil> A mate basically has a pack of playing cards of his various licences - some of his guns have 3 cards, one for each component.
[12:42:20] <inz> Here the police have "bring your weapons to us, no questions asked" campaigns every now and then
[12:42:23] <kyonko`> are you ethnically finnish?
[12:42:26] <FatPhil> I think he only has about 15 guns, but definitely has over 40 licences for them.
[12:42:29] <kyonko`> inz: all the time
[12:42:50] <kyonko`> problem is, the police would be stupid not to run forensics on all turned in guns
[12:42:56] <kyonko`> its logic
[12:43:33] <kyonko`> check serial numbers to whats on file, microscopically examine and log the barrels and chambers
[12:44:00] <kyonko`> computer forensics, gun forensics, all the same
[12:44:05] <inz> They usually mostly get world war era weaponry
[12:44:25] <inz> Probably majority of them are defunct anyways
[12:44:47] <kyonko`> I'm not sure exactly what the final word on serial numbers is, but its safe to assume they are serialed to military and police groups
[12:45:08] <kyonko`> "why do you have gun, serial numbered to police substation in sector 1B"
[12:45:28] <kyonko`> you would be infantile to not think
[12:46:00] <kyonko`> all those guns you see on tv, middle east, afghanistan, syria, iraq, libya, they are all looted arms
[12:46:13] <kyonko`> guns beleve it or not, come with EULAs
[12:46:21] <kyonko`> you know, bill gates illegal operation and will be shut down EULA
[12:47:32] <kyonko`> not defending yourself/arming yourself is akin to waiting to marriage to have sex
[12:47:36] <kyonko`> its stupid and against nature
[12:48:07] <inz> Gun has two ends, so it probably has 2 EULAs; although I'm pretty sure the user at the wrong end won't have much time to read it.
[12:48:20] <FatPhil> inz++
[12:48:20] <Bender> karma - inz: 5
[12:48:52] <kyonko`> inz: Heckler and Koch of germany is the most anal of arm EULA
[12:49:03] <kyonko`> the CIS and chinese, the most lax
[12:49:12] <inz> "By biting the bullet you agree to the these terms"
[12:49:22] <kyonko`> and bullets are soft
[12:49:28] <kyonko`> and inorganic chemistry
[12:49:33] <kyonko`> just like your teeth
[12:49:54] <kyonko`> behind soft flesh is hard stone
[12:51:25] <kyonko`> israel for a few years became a big time arms trafficker
[12:52:15] <FatPhil> it was being given so many for free by the US that it didn't know what to do with them?
[12:52:26] <kyonko`> in all my years on the internet, I've never come across the exact text of an arms EULA on google, but its pretty much related to not trying to overthrow your own government
[12:53:13] <kyonko`> when russian federation exported ammo to the US, and then later smuggled into mexico, there was no EULA
[12:53:28] <kyonko`> russian federation just assumed the ammo would be wasted at target ranges
[12:53:32] <kyonko`> "infantile"
[12:53:40] <requerdanos> if you violate the eula, what is the penalty
[12:53:53] <kyonko`> eulas are never enforced actually
[12:53:57] <FatPhil> Disclaimer: I do not recognise the imposters in power presently as my legitimate government.
[12:54:01] <FatPhil> Let the firing commence
[12:54:33] <kyonko`> heckler and koch will sell guns to the mexican govt, and give them a eula that those arms can't be used to repress the population
[12:54:49] <kyonko`> which is kinda infantile
[12:54:58] <inz> Finnish military tends to have problems with bullets getting past their best-before date.
[12:55:09] <kyonko`> inz are you finnish?
[12:55:21] <inz> I am
[12:55:31] <kyonko`> american civilians have problems that their bullets go way beyond their safe targets
[12:56:01] <kyonko`> have you see german target ranges?
[12:56:08] <kyonko`> germans are very anal about guns
[12:56:15] <kyonko`> never seen a country like that
[12:56:16] <raxas> a fast decent perceptive robot with sword wins over a lazy desoriented human with gun. it's only a matter of time when that happens
[12:56:28] <raxas> so, coding is essential, not gunpowder
[12:56:37] <kyonko`> make the sword so massive that no bullet can damage it :P
[12:57:07] <inz> I've only seen finnish military ranges and what myhtbusters has shown of the U.S.
[12:57:21] <kyonko`> mythbusters was good
[12:57:33] <kyonko`> they use water tanks in forensics to catch bullets for microscopic analysis
[12:57:48] <inz> It's funny that fully automated weapons are illegal in finland, yet majority of males have trained to use one.
[12:58:19] <requerdanos> I was trained on both full auto and three-round burst (disclaimer: US, not finland)
[12:58:43] <kyonko`> and once trained you don't forget?
[12:58:50] <inz> Quite similar here.
[12:59:22] <requerdanos> well, i am a pretty good forgetter, but I remember that three round burst is a lot easier to control
[12:59:46] <kyonko`> I'm struggling with computer knowledge I should have learned 20 years ago right now
[13:00:13] <inz> Although the only time I've shot on full auto was a test to feel what it feels like with blanks (or what we call "boogerheads")
[13:00:27] <kyonko`> my last dvd-r for FBSD 12.2 did not coaster right now :)
[13:00:50] <kyonko`> inz: and you need to plug the bore of the weapon so that the automatic mechanism even works
[13:01:22] <inz> yeah, and every now and then someone fails to screw it on tight enough, and there's actually a projectile
[13:01:29] <kyonko`> heh
[13:01:41] <kyonko`> you need to have scientists and physicist oh my
[13:02:02] <kyonko`> how do you turn the black sands of norway into a sharp steel sword?
[13:02:13] <kyonko`> remember, these guys had no idea of degrees kelvin
[13:02:39] <requerdanos> kelvin has kelvins, not degrees
[13:03:13] <kyonko`> yeah and look at all the mistakes people make when talking about guns
[13:03:22] <kyonko`> just let them call them bullets in clips
[13:03:29] <kyonko`> its not worth it to argue
[13:03:35] <requerdanos> your point is well taken
[13:03:51] <kyonko`> most people don't care that its a cartridge
[13:04:14] <kyonko`> infact, a lot of gun accidents happen because people lose track in their head about how the cartridge enters the chamber
[13:04:31] <kyonko`> I remember back in 2007
[13:04:38] <kyonko`> I live on the us-mexico border in arizona
[13:04:45] <kyonko`> GWB began construction of "the wall"
[13:04:57] <kyonko`> which is just a bunch of tall rusted steel bars
[13:04:59] <requerdanos> aka "El Muro"
[13:05:07] <kyonko`> yea but its more like a fence
[13:05:24] <requerdanos> "La Cerca" doesn't have the same ring to it, though
[13:05:28] <kyonko`> the giant steel bar fence construction began in 2007
[13:05:48] <kyonko`> so for a while the old rusted vietnam era improvised landing strip fence was torn down
[13:05:57] <kyonko`> so for a few weeks to months, we had no fence
[13:06:15] <kyonko`> so we got arizona national guard deployed with ar-15's
[13:06:25] <kyonko`> they had rules of engagement and all that crap
[13:06:28] <kyonko`> nothing happened, good
[13:06:56] <kyonko`> their ROE required their arms to be carried in bags or hard rife cases
[13:07:24] <kyonko`> when it became time to be relieved of duty, they would shoot a red snails system tank to make their gun safe for putting on the rack
[13:07:34] <requerdanos> "you may return fire if and only if you are shot dead twenty times"
[13:08:06] <kyonko`> the snails system de-chambering tank, is just a red 55 gallon drum filled with water
[13:08:27] <kyonko`> but another snails system box is a steel coil that slows down the bullet
[13:09:39] <kyonko`> its a sheet metal strip rolled into a coil in a box
[13:09:43] <kyonko`> it works
[13:10:21] <kyonko`> so I guess a loaded chambered gun is akin to a sharp blade
[13:10:37] <kyonko`> trust me, this blade is not sharp!
[13:11:45] <kyonko`> for a few months we had the national guard rolling around in rented vans with their chambered rifles in rifle bags
[13:11:50] <kyonko`> I wonder why they had such ROE
[13:12:20] <requerdanos> helps avoid incidents, at the expense of operational readiness
[13:12:27] <kyonko`> what kind of incident?
[13:12:36] <requerdanos> oops, I shot someone
[13:13:09] <kyonko`> going back to the smooth bore muzzle loader, guns have always been funny
[13:13:24] <kyonko`> but so have white arms, such as knives and swords
[13:14:17] <kyonko`> is it anal to keep saying, how's the chamber?
[13:14:26] <kyonko`> never forget the chamber!
[13:14:54] <requerdanos> somewhere between "anal" and "basic safety" maybe
[13:14:55] <kyonko`> drill the magazine ejection and chamber safety ad nauseum
[13:15:16] <kyonko`> you should be able to spot in basic training someone who can't do it
[13:16:03] <kyonko`> humans do weird things, and we like to call each other crazy, problem is, you are in deep shit when a human with actual power calls you crazy
[13:16:43] <kyonko`> there is no such thing as building a case for the sanity of a person
[13:16:49] <kyonko`> its always building a case for their insanity
[13:17:18] <kyonko`> most normal people flinch when they shoot the gun
[13:17:19] <FatPhil> top tip - never let the actual crazies get into the position of power
[13:17:32] <kyonko`> FatPhil: but nature puts those crazies in power!
[13:17:55] <requerdanos> I leanred the BRAS method, Breathe, Relax, Aim, Squeeze
[13:18:02] <kyonko`> you got someone with a flinching problem, I don't think it helps to tell them there is 60,000 psi of chamber pressure on their face
[13:18:35] <kyonko`> I've never ever ever EVER liked breathing
[13:18:49] <kyonko`> during this recent covid19 shtick, yeah I got fucking suffocated
[13:18:56] <requerdanos> you have some sort of alternate respiration worked out?
[13:19:10] <kyonko`> no, I just stopped worrying about breathing, I get it quite bad
[13:19:33] <FatPhil> and that's "breathe out", not "breath in", right?
[13:19:51] <kyonko`> it all stems that humans can control their breathing
[13:19:52] <FatPhil> or is the "relax" the breathe out bit.
[13:20:06] <kyonko`> imagine if we could hold our heart beats like our breathe
[13:20:14] <requerdanos> breathe halfway in and pause on the relax iirc
[13:20:22] <raxas> correct breathing is a thing since the bow&arrow times
[13:20:37] <kyonko`> correct breathing works in any situation, I just don't like it
[13:21:03] <kyonko`> I haven't worn an N95 mask in years
[13:21:18] <kyonko`> those you can see the mask cave in and blow out
[13:21:53] <kyonko`> I'll go to a public market and see some people with all types of protection, but the N95 masks really stick out because you can see their breathing
[13:21:59] <kyonko`> don't stare!
[13:22:15] <kyonko`> i'll get a glimpse of a person carrying an open carry firearm
[13:22:23] <kyonko`> ok, you just made a statistic in your head
[13:22:29] <kyonko`> never stare!
[13:23:04] <kyonko`> I carry a change of masks with me
[13:23:15] <kyonko`> wet/moist masks breed dangerous bacteria
[13:23:45] <kyonko`> so far, this is the first year "i haven't got sick of upper respiratory infection"
[13:23:49] <kyonko`> URTI
[13:23:59] <raxas> FFP2/N95 is compulsory while going shopping here, a year+ already
[13:24:02] <kyonko`> I was getting sick once a year since 2011
[13:24:13] <kyonko`> is that by law?
[13:24:24] <kyonko`> I just stick to surgical masks and then the washable ones
[13:24:41] <kyonko`> protection works
[13:24:47] <raxas> by government edicts
[13:25:18] <raxas> old people got them for free
[13:25:33] <kyonko`> I'll never forget 2019
[13:25:46] <kyonko`> it was the year I got 3 upper respiratory tract infections
[13:25:59] <FatPhil> My only knowledge about covid and .cz is this: https://www.bbc.com
[13:26:02] <systemd> ^ 03Coronavirus: Czechs hold 'farewell party' for pandemic
[13:26:07] <kyonko`> I was coming out of my 3rd wave in jan of 2020 always a week long course of croatian antibiotics
[13:26:24] <FatPhil> there was a wave of face-palming across europe that day.
[13:26:36] <kyonko`> whats face palming?
[13:26:43] <kyonko`> like to strangers?
[13:27:10] <FatPhil> https://www.cnet.com
[13:28:38] <FatPhil> Or as Gandalf said, "use the force, Harry".
[13:28:57] <FatPhil> transgenre memes are tight
[13:29:25] <kyonko`> hold on tight guys, the US and NATO are going to blame russia and china for this bioweapon leak
[13:29:38] <kyonko`> this isn't against some oil rich country in the middle east with muslims
[13:29:45] <kyonko`> this time, its the end
[13:30:17] <requerdanos> the end of what?
[13:30:39] <Bytram> =yt REM end of the word
[13:30:39] <systemd> https://youtube.com - R.E.M. - It's The End Of The World (Official Video) (04:04; 31,463,398 views; 👍205,818 👎5,883)
[13:31:05] <kyonko`> the end of 2 million years of human evolution
[13:31:17] <kyonko`> altho gates and ted turner claim they will survive
[13:31:41] <kyonko`> remember how slashdot always slandered gates in the 2000's?
[13:31:57] <kyonko`> I would think to myself, this fucker has a hide out from nuclear war
[13:31:58] <raxas> gates will survive for sure
[13:32:11] <kyonko`> but its not just gates
[13:32:15] <kyonko`> its ted turner from cnn
[13:32:23] <kyonko`> even the fonz from that 1970's tv show
[13:32:52] <kyonko`> and 100,000 others smaller preppers
[13:33:14] <kyonko`> its gonna suck hard when they release EVERYTHING
[13:33:38] <kyonko`> the spores, the infected gmo vectors, the daughter radionucleides
[13:33:52] <kyonko`> the prions
[13:35:19] <raxas> the chinese have extremozoans in their pockets already. huge flying monsters rezistent to everything
[13:35:38] <kyonko`> good thing non existant yhwh let this all happen
[13:35:48] <kyonko`> no matter how hard the orthodox jews packed to the wailing rock this year
[13:36:36] <kyonko`> the speaker just popped on fbsd 12.2 boot, right when it hits pcm0 and pcm1
[13:37:21] <raxas> actually, that wall bothers me. it is a backdoor from another universe, not completely sealed since king solomon times
[13:37:42] <raxas> it is the most dangerous threat to humanity
[13:37:53] <kyonko`> it was built by the freemasons
[13:38:16] <kyonko`> gehenna, the portal to hell is nearby in a valley
[13:38:22] <raxas> they tried to seal the door but failed. it's leaky
[13:38:30] <kyonko`> at gehenna, they gave offerings of live babies to molloch
[13:39:44] <kyonko`> there is a difference of console fonts on FBSD 12 to FBSD 13
[13:39:53] <kyonko`> reminds me of 1999 slackware
[13:40:27] <raxas> you can use unicode in console on fbsd. unlike in linux
[13:41:24] <kyonko`> yes I've noticed on BitchX
[13:42:31] <kyonko`> I shouldn't have had a 20 year gap of i.t. knowledge
[13:42:35] <kyonko`> but I do
[13:42:48] <kyonko`> it was the windows 10 data loss that made me switch 100%
[13:43:19] <requerdanos> windows 10 data loss also prompted me to switch away from windows 100%
[13:44:44] <kyonko`> hahaha no shit
[13:44:51] <kyonko`> simultaneous wasn't it for us?
[13:44:53] <kyonko`> I lost 2TB
[13:45:06] <kyonko`> it was mostly pbs newshour HD saved videos from youtube, but still
[13:45:30] <requerdanos> I lost almost nothing -- just some documents and the desktop config -- but it was the principle of the thing
[13:45:36] <kyonko`> then I said fuck it, not wasint my time with any kind of news
[13:45:50] <FatPhil> the news ate your hard disk
[13:46:00] <kyonko`> I recovered a few with photorec
[13:46:56] <kyonko`> I do kinda dig the crazy images they show on the news
[13:47:08] <kyonko`> like when they stick a long needle in a newborns arm or thigh
[13:47:54] <kyonko`> i survived
[13:47:59] <kyonko`> the 1980's
[13:48:52] <kyonko`> good thing I never flinched during the mass vaccinations we had in the 1990's in middle school, the needle goes deep into the bone, and could snap off
[13:49:07] <kyonko`> didn't work for shit in shielding me from any airborne disease
[13:49:09] <kyonko`> what a crock
[13:49:48] <kyonko`> then in the 2000's came bird flu
[13:49:50] <kyonko`> and sars
[13:50:04] <kyonko`> a few asians began to wear surgical masks at all times
[13:50:16] <kyonko`> 20 years of that shit wow
[13:59:02] <raxas> =submit https://www.rt.com
[13:59:06] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08‘Fort Detrick Base is Full of Suspicions’: China Asks US for Explanation of 2019 Respiratory Dis" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:03:03] <kyonko`> there was a war games going on when covid 19 hysteria began in 2019-2020
[14:03:14] <kyonko`> a us navy carrier was anchored at hanoi, vietnam
[14:03:51] <kyonko`> how come the us military and mexican military never war gamed.... to uncanny?
[14:04:22] <kyonko`> maybe including canada would make it less uncanny?
[14:05:56] <raxas> I still keep somewhere real names and ranks of that detrick servicewoman and her dutch husband who performed the transfer to wuhan
[14:06:31] <kyonko`> its a man modified cold virus
[14:06:41] <kyonko`> the infamous virus that could not be vaccinated against
[14:06:42] <raxas> but that's not important. what irritates me no other powers put that on the table already, for whole year
[14:07:11] <kyonko`> unless you had strong chemotherapy, radiation or aids, the cold virus did not kill you
[14:07:21] <kyonko`> but we live in idiocracy
[14:07:33] <kyonko`> ww3 caused by idiocracy
[14:07:52] <raxas> that makes a proof everyone is colluding with everyone, making a different perspective on all the planetary governing model
[14:08:15] <kyonko`> eventually the flu wasn't gonna cut it, they were going to use the cold
[14:08:35] <kyonko`> I should just chill out, it could have been way worse
[14:09:26] <kyonko`> its funny how they make the humans alive at the time of the 1919 pandemic to be like troglodytes because they had no computers and electronics
[14:12:08] <kyonko`> have to hit alt+f4 on the fbsd 12.2 installer console to enter: ifconfig wlan0 up, to continue
[14:13:21] <raxas> wifi is pest. next time use usb/ethernet bridge adapter for persistent network during install :D
[14:16:17] <kyonko`> how do I flip the rtwn0 freebsd wifi hardware switch on and off?
[14:16:27] <kyonko`> yeah I have an ethernet cord
[14:16:35] <kyonko`> and yeah, the drones fly over head picking up the wifi sigint
[14:16:50] <kyonko`> and yeah, they let the drugs flow thru so the slaves can get them in the big cities
[14:17:01] <kyonko`> and yeah, they have some theater that they have a war against drugs
[14:17:16] <kyonko`> rtwn0 has a software hardware switch heh
[14:22:27] <kyonko`> we have legalized weed now
[14:22:30] <kyonko`> because its gmo
[14:22:34] <kyonko`> no thanks
[14:32:53] <raxas> =submit https://www.globalresearch.ca
[14:32:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03US Biolabs in Former Soviet States. Moscow Reacts - Global Research" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:35:03] <kyonko`> yeah the georgia one was infamous
[14:35:22] <kyonko`> where do you find people of the caliber required to work in a plastic bubble like chinese bat woman?
[14:35:57] <kyonko`> 2008 georgia war
[14:37:21] <kyonko`> after literally doing the monkeys with typewriters thing on ifconfig wlan0, I got a reaction from the computer
[14:38:07] * kyonko` mumbles "computers" and clicks mouse.
[14:40:24] <kyonko`> a bunch of times of me doing ifconfing wlan0 up, then down, then up, then down untill the wifi light reacts
[15:00:24] <kyonko`> https://docs.huihoo.com
[15:00:25] <systemd> ^ 034.4 Disk That Is Used for Installation Must Not Contain a Sun VTOC Partition
[15:06:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ohio Lawmakers Want to Abolish Vaccine Requirements - https://sylnt.us - what-could-go-wrong
[15:06:29] <raxas> just an ordinary aburdity
[15:11:55] <kyonko`> ok, so mandatory innoculation is fine?
[15:12:03] <kyonko`> a lot of mexicans are slaves by their own conviction
[15:12:16] <kyonko`> just weird shit humans do
[15:16:39] <kyonko`> humans have been innoculating themselves since pre-history
[15:16:51] <kyonko`> doesn't mean its right, or still needs to go on
[15:17:14] <raxas> I meant the vtoc; the biofascism is fine
[15:17:14] <kyonko`> what we call crime today, has existed since pre-history, police and law and caging monkeys won't stop it
[15:17:29] <kyonko`> you don't like vtoc
[15:18:53] <kyonko`> finally install FBSD 12.2 with rtwn0 wifi working and NTP date set
[15:19:09] <kyonko`> then I'll worry on the desktop with xfce
[15:19:20] <kyonko`> xfce SHOULD do most of the work
[15:22:19] <raxas> make sure it boots clean before you start tinkering with xorg stuff
[15:24:01] <kyonko`> its UFS
[15:24:17] <kyonko`> I know how zfs has fragmentation
[15:24:34] <kyonko`> I have a few zfs drives I need to back up
[15:26:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Surviving an In-Flight Anomaly: What Happened on Ingenuity’s Sixth Flight - https://sylnt.us - Ingenuity's-Wild-Ride
[15:31:01] <kyonko`> local news is stating that chinese fireworks have been finally, outlawed
[15:37:57] <raxas> so, from now on, only outlaws will have chinese fireworks
[15:42:54] <kyonko`> only outlaws will eat meat
[16:01:09] <kyonko`> libera.chat
[16:27:38] <Teckla> kyonko`: haha, have you been following all the IRC drama? :)
[16:36:43] <inz> you shouldn't mention libera.chat, otherwise an angry rasengar may appear
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[16:42:07] <kyonko`> BOMB
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[17:17:50] <kyonko`> hey zumiez
[17:17:54] <kyonko`> missing the 2000's yet
[17:20:54] <AzumaHazuki> no, things went to shit in the late 90s for me
[17:26:10] <kyonko`> sakura card captors!
[17:33:04] <AzumaHazuki> ?
[18:03:23] <raxas> anime is over, the future is donghua
[18:03:37] <raxas> https://www.youtube.com
[18:03:39] <systemd> ^ 03【1080P】《灵笼》17分钟正式PV Ling Cage: Incarnation-17 minutes official PV(ENG SUB are Coming Soon) #B站
[18:04:13] <raxas> Spirit Cage, this is only a trailer, the whole thing is now in season 2
[18:07:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lopsided Galaxy NGC 2276 - https://sylnt.us
[18:09:59] * bacteria want to see a donghua adaptation of springtime for xi
[18:11:23] <Sulla> yeah no thanks. Ive attempted to read a lot of "manga" from Korea and China and haven't found any that ive liked
[18:12:25] <Sulla> Typically the Chinese authors are moderatly well off so their writing comes from a different perspective and has different givens about personal expectations
[18:12:29] <raxas> you are not ready for a true postapo then
[18:12:47] <Sulla> than say Japanese where the mangakas often started off starving artist
[18:13:11] <Sulla> Have come across a few good Vietnamese mangas though
[18:14:19] <bacteria> is writer starvation still an issue in japan?
[18:15:28] <Sulla> Just googled a manga author i figured would be very wealthy, Tite Kubo comes in at 50m net worth
[18:16:58] <Sulla> Jin Kobayashi of School Rumble and a couple other manga fame is probably more similar to average artist
[18:17:21] <Sulla> School rumble ran 2002 to 2008, current net worth is 400k
[18:17:30] <bacteria> masamune shirow is 1-5 M
[18:18:22] <Sulla> Well, even if my theory of Japanese authors starting poorer so having a different world outlook doesnt work out
[18:18:45] <Sulla> im gonna believe it is the difference anywas rahter than assuming all the chinese authors I've read are just conceited
[18:34:20] <kyonko`> That crazy korean destroyed freenode
[18:34:28] <kyonko`> He is as nuts as the moonies
[18:34:48] <kyonko`> IIRC, the moonies worship guns
[18:35:14] <kyonko`> the top guy on the pyramid is a felon, but the moonie church owns a few gun manufacturers
[18:35:24] <kyonko`> didn't know it would infect freenode
[18:36:02] <kyonko`> he's going all out totalitarian tho, filtering "libera.chat"
[18:36:27] <kyonko`> he's only scaring the weak tho
[18:37:42] <pinchy> freenode is back to the good ol days finally
[18:37:51] <kyonko`> yeah I'm not going to abandon freenode
[18:38:09] <kyonko`> I registered back in 2011 because of the GNAA bullshit
[18:38:26] <kyonko`> first time i was deanonymized online since 1997
[18:44:41] <raxas> "moonies worship guns"... Samsung is the biggest weapons manufacturer on the planet. not just phones, fridges and TVs, also tanks, artillery, battleships, ...
[18:45:16] <kyonko`> really "samsung"
[18:45:41] <kyonko`> korea is a strange place, its more "micro" than japan is
[18:45:49] <raxas> they have dozens of sects like moonies competing over there
[18:45:56] <kyonko`> yeah I know
[18:46:00] <kyonko`> its in their DNA
[18:46:11] <kyonko`> north korea is a cult
[18:46:41] <Sulla> Uh excuse me, a little respect please for Best Korea
[18:47:11] <kyonko`> Japan has allowed north koreas free travel into japan for decades
[18:47:20] <kyonko`> even though japanese who enter north korea never return home
[18:49:04] <kyonko`> south korea especially their own big city, seoul, is very very claustrophobic
[18:49:34] <kyonko`> japan is texas sized compared to south korea
[18:49:43] <kyonko`> north korea was built to soviet standards
[18:50:09] <kyonko`> to accomidate european caucasian and arabic soviet people
[19:29:45] <bacteria> whaaaaat..... nk was built to accomodate one bloodline
[19:31:01] <Sulla> Construction is going crazy right now. Need to get a mason to tell me if my chimney is structurally sound, and five places I have talked to so far are a year out on even giving quotes
[19:32:07] <bacteria> did you use a mason sign?
[19:34:20] <bacteria> https://www.youtube.com
[19:34:22] <systemd> ^ 03The Simpsons - The secret greeting of the Stonecutters
[19:52:18] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[19:52:20] <systemd> ^ 03San Jose gunman Samuel Cassidy faced disciplinary hearing on day of attack: report
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[20:07:24] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
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[20:45:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Which Animals Will Survive Climate Change? - https://sylnt.us - not-dead-yet
[20:48:54] <raxas> humans.
[20:49:38] <Sulla> dogs
[21:25:21] <Runaway1956> roaches and progressives will survive
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[22:08:44] <AzumaHazuki> cock-a-roaches
[22:17:24] <Runaway1956> Did she say "cock"?
[22:17:51] <Runaway1956> the rooster says "cock-a-doodle-do"
[22:18:03] <Runaway1956> hens say . . .
[22:18:05] <requerdanos> different genus, different species. I see where you might have got confused, however
[22:18:55] * Runaway1956 looks in dictionar for cock-a-roaches . . .
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[23:02:37] <Sulla> Okay ari enough is enough, if you are gonna do it at least do it right.
[23:02:46] <Sulla> when both ari and anti-ari do the exact same thing
[23:02:56] <Sulla> log in, change to soyguestXXXXX, log off after three minutes
[23:03:09] <Sulla> at least anti-ari should make his XXXXX the opposite of what ari would do
[23:03:42] <Sulla> also for anti-ari the A should be capitalized
[23:03:48] <SoyGuest80095> Just lost a password, you have a problem with that?
[23:03:48] <requerdanos> a change to soyguestnnnnn is typically imposed on someone, not a voluntary choice.
[23:03:56] <SoyGuest80095> Sic semper Sulla!
[23:04:33] <Sulla> Oh no a greekoid is calling me a name
[23:06:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Navy's Experimental Drone Ship Passes Through Panama Canal - https://sylnt.us
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[23:59:21] <Runaway1956> =submit https://bioengineer.org I blame East Stonia
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