#soylent | Logs for 2021-05-21
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[00:00:04] <bacteria> hey, balanced paretheses :D
[00:00:07] <Sulla> also censored my call for submissions
[00:00:26] <bacteria> mechanicjay++
[00:00:26] <Bender> karma - mechanicjay: 37
[00:00:37] <Runaway1956> El Salvadore is a great vacation destination - - -
[00:00:41] <Runaway1956> https://www.theguardian.com
[00:00:42] <systemd> ^ 03El Salvador: dozens of bodies found at ex-cop’s house investigated as femicides
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[00:01:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Looks like a lot of recent Jew-centric comments in the discussions just went down the memory hole. Cohencidence?
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[00:02:34] <Sulla> * man yells at clouds
[00:02:34] * AzumaHazuki goes looking for that "you are a gigantic faggot" GIF...
[00:04:06] <bacteria> quick, we need a perfect flamebait article so that zumi and e/f can put a troll under every bridge again
[00:04:08] * Runaway1956 checks dictionary for cohencidence to see if it applies to the mistreatment of tardigrades
[00:04:12] <FatPhil> wouldn't eth like clouds, in particular stormfronts?
[00:04:24] <Sulla> tbh using that word in is as bad as what he is doing depending on your region of the country
[00:05:27] <Runaway1956> mechanicjay++
[00:05:27] <Bender> karma - mechanicjay: 38
[00:05:36] <Runaway1956> themightybuzzard++
[00:05:36] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 434
[00:05:59] <Runaway1956> giganticfaggot--
[00:05:59] <Bender> karma - giganticfaggot: -1
[00:06:02] <bacteria> i pray to gods every day that donnie t. has a stroke, a revelation, and starts a crusade against taboo words
[00:06:35] <Runaway1956> you make it taboo and I promise to use it frequently
[00:07:28] <FatPhil> what part of his brain do you think could be damaged by a stroke?
[00:07:43] <bacteria> yeah Runaway1956 you are like a foot-scout for the wing of his army that will make offensive against n-word
[00:08:05] <Runaway1956> By "n-word", I presume that you mean "nigger"?
[00:08:26] <bacteria> that's the one
[00:08:46] <Runaway1956> But, you won't man up and designate the word properly?
[00:09:10] <AzumaHazuki> Sulla: TBH I know and a gay girl shouldn't be using a slur for a gay guy. TBH I'm also out of fucks to give
[00:09:26] <raxas> just in case if you all need a manual for this http://techrights.org
[00:09:29] <systemd> ^ 03The Practice of Ritual Defamation (Relevant to Cancel Mobs)
[00:09:30] <AzumaHazuki> think of it as speaking in his language, if you wish
[00:09:46] <Runaway1956> If it's good enough for Sleepy Joe, it's good enough for me!
[00:09:56] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[00:09:58] <systemd> ^ 03In 1985 Hearing Joe Biden Says N-Word Out Loud Twice
[00:10:09] <Runaway1956> Ain't NOBODY more woke than Sleepy Joe!
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[00:10:29] <SoyCow1016> Hey a bunch of articles that got posted were removed. The freenode one and another one
[00:10:48] <Runaway1956> Yeah, some of the data base has been lost
[00:11:02] <Runaway1956> most tragically, one of my journal posts has gone AWOL
[00:11:15] <SoyCow1016> What the heck?
[00:11:25] <Runaway1956> Shit happens.
[00:11:27] <bacteria> i work for the state of california, where no one gives two shits about free speech when it comes to group slurs, so yeah, i am piling up into my breeches every time i even talk about it
[00:11:29] <AzumaHazuki> database farted hard
[00:11:45] <AzumaHazuki> last backup is ~5 weeks old
[00:11:52] <SoyCow1016> Wow
[00:11:57] <Runaway1956> So? You work for Commifornia?
[00:12:56] <bacteria> yeah, don't expect me to "man up" on this issue
[00:13:17] <SoyCow1016> Dang, so many things got deleted
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[00:13:30] <Runaway1956> Well, I'll just follow Sleepy Joe's example - he's the proper leader of our country and all that nonsense
[00:13:39] <bacteria> also, "n-word" is as perfect of a designator as it gets,quite unambiguous
[00:13:51] <SoyCow1016> Are there any soylentnews mirrors with data?
[00:14:04] <Runaway1956> "n-word" is candy ass, but yeah, I always know what the candy asses mean.
[00:14:19] <AzumaHazuki> meh, we may as well start from zero IMO
[00:14:34] <bacteria> unplug teh internet
[00:14:45] <Runaway1956> or just reboot universe
[00:15:34] <Sulla> oh yeah lets just burn it all down, fantastic solution
[00:15:42] <acid_andy> What happened? Dead drive or deliberate act?
[00:15:56] <AzumaHazuki> one of the servers filled up its disk and for whatever reason that fucked the cluster
[00:16:31] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[00:16:33] <systemd> ^ 03The Beatles - Eleanor Rigby (From "Yellow Submarine")
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[00:17:48] <SoyCow1016> That really sucks
[00:18:44] <acid_andy> First I saw Buzzard's old journal and thought he retracted the disco one, then I noticed the dates on everything.
[00:20:34] <raxas> there are still people out there who are getting bombs falling on their heads as we speak, THAT really sucks. one data scare on a server is nothing
[00:20:55] <acid_andy> Good point
[00:21:55] <SoyCow1016> To put it in perspective I suppose
[00:22:00] <FatPhil> =yt stanley jordan eleanor rigby
[00:22:01] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Stanley Jordan - Eleanor Rigby - 8/23/1986 - Newport Jazz Festival (Official) (04:31; 199,114 views; 👍4,310 👎58)
[00:25:27] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[00:25:29] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews.org had a Site Crash and We're Back! (mostly) - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[00:26:17] <FatPhil> Bytram++
[00:26:17] <Bender> karma - bytram: 167
[00:29:16] <Bytram> break time!
[00:31:35] <FatPhil> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[00:31:37] <systemd> ^ 03Big cats seized from zoo in Netflix's Tiger King
[00:32:35] <Runaway1956> That whole Tiger King thing looked stupid from day one
[00:32:53] <FatPhil> I love the title of the interstitial link "Does the US have a pet tiger problem?"
[00:33:23] <FatPhil> How did it get to a state where even asking the question makes sense.
[00:33:47] <Runaway1956> Because we live in a tolerant woke society?
[00:34:28] <Runaway1956> Everyone and his sister, his brother, and his mother claimed that the Tiger King slept with them, so everything else was "alright"
[00:35:08] <Runaway1956> It was never made clear whether the Tiger King slept with his tigers
[00:35:14] <acid_andy> Say what you will but it was good of TMB to help out, again.
[00:35:37] <acid_andy> TheMightyBuzzard++
[00:35:37] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 435
[00:35:44] <AzumaHazuki> it was, yes
[00:36:05] <AzumaHazuki> i'm not quite surprised he did, but let's say it was a nice confirmation of something i half-suspected
[00:36:06] <FatPhil> I've never seen it, or even clips. but of course it cropped up in pop culture references for a while
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[00:39:50] <Runaway1956> One of the boys has a monstrous CRT sitting in the living room - maybe 21 or 24 inch
[00:39:58] * Runaway1956 wants to hook it up for a monitor
[00:43:15] <Sulla> I recall reading an article recently about jaguar having come back to some place in south texas, which is pretty cool
[00:43:45] <Runaway1956> Yeah, close to Mexican border, I think -
[00:44:09] <Runaway1956> probably spreading out from Mexico, where they found a haven for some decades
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[00:51:08] Bytram changed topic of #soylent to: SITE IS BACK UP restored from 2012-04-14. | Please keep discussions civil | SN Main Channel | https://soylentnews.org | Some PISG charts: https://stats.sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publicly displayed here https://logs.sylnt.us
[00:53:50] <Bytram> =g "Viewsonic" "A110" monitor
[00:53:51] <systemd> https://www.driverscape.com - Viewsonic Monitors Drivers Download for Windows 10, 8.1, 7, Vista ...
[00:54:06] <Bytram> =g "Viewsonic" "A110" monitor description
[00:54:07] <systemd> https://www.driverscape.com - Viewsonic Monitors Drivers Download for Windows 10, 8.1, 7, Vista ...
[00:54:17] <Bytram> whatevs.
[00:55:36] * Bytram has one sitting on the next table over. Need to get rid of it, but would probably cost more to ship it somewhere than it's worth. :(
[00:56:26] <Bytram> CRT, 21" diagonal with up to 1600x1200 resolution
[01:01:25] <Sulla> Mainpage isn't showing #posts in threads
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[01:01:41] <Sulla> not that i expect you to fix it as tired after a long day, just fyi
[01:02:51] <aristarchus> Yep, last journal had 198 comments. Some good ones, even.
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[01:08:11] <bacteria> yeah sounds fantastic
[01:08:16] <bacteria> oops mt
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[01:08:22] <bacteria> you gotta believe me aristarchus !!!
[01:08:43] <bacteria> but yeah, gods are punishing you again.
[01:10:23] <Sulla> Bah. He was born in Greece instead of Rome, I feel he has been punished enough.
[01:13:34] <Sulla> Random anon brought up a good point, can we ask the NSA for a more recent backup?
[01:13:52] <AzumaHazuki> loool
[01:14:07] <Runaway1956> https://www.theatlantic.com
[01:14:08] <systemd> ^ 03Measure Like a Mixologist: A Guide to Jiggers
[01:15:07] <Sulla> NSA could really improve their image if they just became the national data backup
[01:16:01] <bacteria> they should run a social network and a web search
[01:16:42] <Runaway1956> Welcome to NSA Social, where you can find all the dirt on all your friends (and enemies)
[01:16:46] <Sulla> "Hey NSA, i lost my work report this morning when I stepped on my flash drive. Can you put in a ticket to have it sent over by this afternoon"
[01:18:48] <Runaway1956> Hmmm - where did anuses come from?
[01:18:52] <Runaway1956> https://www.theatlantic.com
[01:18:53] <systemd> ^ 03The Body’s Most Embarrassing Organ Is an Evolutionary Marvel
[01:19:05] <Runaway1956> It was probably from an alien invasion
[01:19:14] <Sulla> they had to have someplace to probe
[01:20:53] <Runaway1956> After the recent article about breathing through your intestines, I wouldn't be surprised to learn there is a major nerve nexus in there too
[01:21:11] <Runaway1956> Aliens just plug in to read all your memories
[01:21:21] <Bytram> Sulla: Noticed and fixed. story comment counts should be back now.
[01:21:38] <Bytram> !uid
[01:21:38] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 14637, owned by masonjack
[01:22:04] <Runaway1956> 22 comments on meta story now
[01:22:57] <Sulla> Do donations exist somewhere else, or did it roll back all that info?
[01:23:21] <Bytram> Sulla: yes and no. :/
[01:23:53] <Sulla> oof
[01:25:23] <kyonko`> foia request the nsa
[01:26:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA’s OSIRIS-REx Completes Final Tour of Asteroid Bennu - https://sylnt.us - Bennu-we-knew-thee-well || IBM Creates a COBOL Compiler -- for Linux on X86 - https://sylnt.us - ADD-compiler-TO-Linux-GIVING-more-buy-in. || Blood Test Developed to Detect Depression and Bipolar Disorder - https://sylnt.us - Not-sure-whether-to-feel-happy-or-sad-about-this - 15 more
[01:26:44] <Bytram> I had an admin page up which showed subscriptions going back to the end of March. Nut, that is not enough information to fully restore that table in the DB... I've been giving it some thought, but want to be certain before I do anything. Current working theory is I could gift it to them to make them hole. But I have a bagging feeling that might miss something.
[01:27:37] <Bytram> s/ ho/ who/
[01:27:37] <SedBot> <Bytram> I had an admin page up which showed subscriptions going back to the end of March. Nut, that is not enough information to fully restore that table in the DB... I've been giving it some thought, but want to be certain before I do anything. Current working theory is I could gift it to them to make them whole. But I have a bagging feeling that might miss something.
[01:28:29] <Bytram> I'm tired, you're just gonna have to endure some extra typos today!
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[01:34:23] <Sulla> you can probably get some rest, although i dont see waht you see nothing looks pressing
[01:35:37] <mechanicjay> Indeed, the data we lost will still not be there tomorrow.
[01:36:09] <Bytram> but we might want another story or two to make it through the night.
[01:36:33] <Sulla> none in the que? guess ill go do some googling
[01:37:29] <Bytram> on SN's queue, they'd already been processed and commented on. Nothing newer than mid-April.
[01:38:02] <Bytram> take a look in #rss-botc for story ideas
[01:39:43] <Sulla> https://www.winknews.com
[01:39:44] <systemd> ^ 03Cape Coral plans to reactivate bubble curtain tech to fight blue-green algae
[01:40:00] <Sulla> might not be best article on the subject, but is interesting
[01:40:19] <Sulla> https://www.eurekalert.org
[01:40:21] <systemd> ^ 03Ultra-sensitive light detector gives self-driving tech a jolt
[01:40:22] <Sulla> is also interesting
[01:41:25] <Sulla> https://news.utexas.edu
[01:41:27] <systemd> ^ 03Advanced Technique for Developing Digital Twins Makes Tech Universally Applicable - UT News
[01:42:41] <Booga1> Soooo, should we resubmit stories we already published or just ignore the last month of submissions?
[01:44:42] <mechanicjay> No wait, I think I can get us back to the 16th....
[01:44:44] <mechanicjay> of May
[01:44:46] <Sulla> resubmit the ones with lots of funny comments
[01:44:50] <Sulla> and then steal the good comments for yourself
[01:44:50] <mechanicjay> I need to take everything down again though
[01:46:38] <mechanicjay> Taking the site down now to test this theory.
[01:46:47] <Bytram> okay
[01:46:58] <Sulla> did it work in test server?
[01:47:43] <mechanicjay> no, but I didn't know what I was doing then yet.
[01:54:28] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.upi.com The real ghost guns!
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[01:54:49] <systemd> Runaway1956, 04submit failed: JSONValue is not an object
[01:55:58] <Sulla> https://www.upi.com
[01:55:59] <systemd> ^ 03U.S. Navy drones to move from Guam to Japan ( https://www.upi.com )
[01:56:00] <Sulla> from same site
[01:56:17] <Sulla> wonder if we will see the US pull resources from guam toward japan
[01:56:28] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.washingtontimes.com
[01:56:36] <Sulla> cant submit rn, site is down
[01:56:42] <Runaway1956> OK
[01:56:50] <Bytram> Runaway1956: what Sulla said,
[01:56:57] <systemd> Runaway1956, 04submit failed: JSONValue is not an object
[01:57:26] <Sulla> Yeah for a taiwan defence it is must better to operate out of okinawa
[01:57:45] <Sulla> Plus the Japanese islands are going to be a bigger defence priority than guam
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[02:06:44] <kyonko`> if this war happens, its the last one for humans
[02:07:13] <kyonko`> hairless apes who invented god(s) then found out they at last were gods themselves
[02:07:51] <kyonko`> its like most testosterone stricken freaks in the streets who think that adult fights are kiddy playground fights
[02:08:02] <kyonko`> there is a reason why cops kill
[02:08:09] <kyonko`> what do they know that we don't
[02:09:01] <Sulla> I doubt it. Likely scenarios are 1. The US allows taiwan to fall and CHina keeps expanding in SE asia to include "traditional Chinese territory" or 2. US backs Taiwan and loses almost its entire military but breaks the back of the CCP ability to field aircraft or ships
[02:10:09] <kyonko`> lol @ CCP
[02:10:28] <kyonko`> we're beyond that godfull vs. godless shit, we're knee deep in the age of globalist non state actors
[02:10:42] <Teckla> Oh dear, so much Freenode drama.
[02:10:53] <kyonko`> I'm registered to freenode since 2011
[02:10:59] <kyonko`> because of the GNAA attacks, I remember that
[02:11:07] <Runaway1956> It remains to be seen how competent the Chinese Navy is
[02:11:16] * Runaway1956 notes that the Army runs their ships
[02:11:30] * Runaway1956 notes that navies and armies are not interchangeable
[02:11:34] <kyonko`> I smirked when I had to give them my e-mail and a "password" to keep my freenode fix, but I did it
[02:11:41] <kyonko`> first time I stopped being anonymous on the internet
[02:11:42] * Teckla left EFNet years ago because it was (and probably still is) a toxic shithole.
[02:11:43] <Sulla> quanity will likely beat quality
[02:11:53] <kyonko`> ohI like efnet
[02:11:54] <Teckla> Freenode was a breath of fresh air. Been there a long time.
[02:11:58] <Teckla> kyonko`: :O
[02:12:08] <Teckla> kyonko`: Perhaps it was just the EFNet channels I visited that were bad.
[02:12:12] <kyonko`> my rizon registration expired, I don't feel like re-registering
[02:12:18] <kyonko`> Teckla: irc is bad, in general
[02:12:20] <bacteria> according to that dissident lawyer, chinese apparat is all rotten onthe inside, everyone with even a shadow of competence has been replaced by blind loyalists
[02:12:23] <Runaway1956> sometimes, quantity does beat quality - not always
[02:12:28] <Teckla> kyonko`: I somewhat agree with that.
[02:12:41] <kyonko`> Teckla: I like irc because I understand how it works, more or less
[02:12:49] <bacteria> his prediction was that empire will fall, it is not on a sustainable trajectory
[02:12:52] <Teckla> I use IRC due to inertia
[02:12:54] <kyonko`> Teckla: you used to be able to say that about the WWW, except for some server side cgi
[02:13:06] <Runaway1956> bacteria - no one knows the quality of the Chinese Navy because it is brand-new and never been put to a test
[02:13:13] <Teckla> I very much prefer the user experience of Discord, though.
[02:13:16] <bacteria> inertia is the only thing that still keeps china going, incidentally
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[02:13:19] <Runaway1956> you can't remove quality that may have never been there
[02:13:25] <kyonko`> ftp, irc, http, all used to be so simple you knew what was going on or where funny business was lurking
[02:13:28] <Sulla> They wouldn't be taking over major corporations if they didnt need cashflow
[02:13:40] <Bk> down again?
[02:13:54] <kyonko`> Teckla: I have a discord and a skype.... and a few webmails, god I do miss having a good old real pop3
[02:13:55] <Teckla> kyonko`: Tinfoil hat time, but I think The Powers That Be encourage things to be hyper-complex so they can hack us.
[02:14:09] <Runaway1956> It's just intermission time, go get your popcorn and extra-large drink
[02:14:09] <Sulla> Alibaba a few months ago. ANd Tencent is int he process of bieng nationalized currently
[02:14:12] <kyonko`> Teckla: yeah, be careful what you say, and I say a lot of shit over these years
[02:14:35] <kyonko`> Teckla: on efnet I ended up making a guy uncomfortable talking about UEFI
[02:14:42] <Teckla> In fact, I think some of the Snowden leaks included proof that the NSA had moles in organizations pushing for hyper-complex protocols and code bases precisely for that real, complexity -> bugs -> hackable.
[02:15:03] <Teckla> kyonko`: Oh? Interesting.
[02:15:11] <kyonko`> Teckla: I think I remember when that was going on, but then again, I remember 2009 as being "the future"
[02:15:21] <kyonko`> Teckla: or more like, 2009 feeling "very present"
[02:15:55] <kyonko`> 2009 was the first year of the LHC
[02:16:08] <kyonko`> then things got all strange
[02:16:28] <Teckla> Large Hadron Collider?
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[02:16:37] <kyonko`> yes the LHC at CERN, where the WWW was invented
[02:16:54] <kyonko`> obama cut funds to the space shuttle and tevatron
[02:17:00] <kyonko`> the american LHC
[02:17:25] <kyonko`> the tevatron track is still there, just empty
[02:18:04] <bacteria> some physicists say we don't need a larger collider, at least not with the price tag on it right now
[02:18:36] <kyonko`> physicists don't really say shit about how computers got so small, powerfull and coooooooooooooool
[02:18:44] <kyonko`> chill computing
[02:18:55] <kyonko`> compacting more bits in a wave than ever before
[02:19:11] <raxas> no extremozoan monsters yet in those scientific tunnels? the chinese are already working on that...
[02:19:35] <Bytram> neon is down; helium is rebooting
[02:20:02] <kyonko`> china is quite paradoxical
[02:20:06] <bacteria> physics & computing is all about training them qubits to crack open your porn lockers
[02:20:17] <kyonko`> you got people in rural hamlets, setting yakshit on fire for lamps
[02:20:24] <Booga1> You guys have porn lockers?
[02:20:38] <kyonko`> whats the big deal with porn?
[02:20:48] <Sulla> On the bright side if you live in the city you dont have to see the country people who aren't allowed to move to tier 1 cities
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[02:21:26] <kyonko`> Sulla: who knows the truth? its been pretty gross in mexico and brazil since the dot-com bubble burst
[02:21:32] <bacteria> i agree, celebrities should simply publish all the porn they produce, that way no one can surprise them
[02:21:39] <Sulla> and you get richer every year when they lower what counts as poverty
[02:21:58] <Sulla> or you know, just dont produce porn
[02:22:05] <kyonko`> you can not, not produce porn
[02:22:45] <bacteria> yeah how joe shmoe not produce porn when he's got an ax box up the wazoo
[02:23:14] <Bytram> helium has now completed rebooting
[02:24:08] <kyonko`> porn really doesn't matter
[02:24:19] * bacteria disagree
[02:24:38] <kyonko`> so you believe in rule of law and powerful welfarist states?
[02:24:53] <bacteria> nice to live in 1
[02:25:11] <bacteria> i tried russia.... meh
[02:25:12] <kyonko`> you should really see whats under the covers in latin america, its been over a decade now
[02:25:26] <Booga1> Once intellectual curiosity is satisfied, all technology is advanced in pursuit of porn.
[02:26:45] <AzumaHazuki> blehhh...i'm really biased of course but so much of it is so gross
[02:27:06] <kyonko`> I'm just waiting for them to confess to what really is going on, or announce the aliens
[02:27:46] <kyonko`> nobody really goes ape over a bunch of hairless mice in an orgy
[02:27:50] <bacteria> ddos by pc thugs?
[02:27:57] <kyonko`> hell, you wouldn't even notice its an orgy going on!
[02:28:01] <Booga1> Sex is gross. Embarrasing. Messy. Awkward. The porn has the benefit of having camera angles, but it's all gross if you look at it close enough.
[02:28:49] <bacteria> i would agree with messy, but every other epithet betrays your religion
[02:28:58] <raxas> it's actually gods in alliance with demons both helping humans to combat aliens
[02:30:23] <Sulla> We better watch out then. Zeus is probably getting it on with some hot alien cattle right now, as is his fashion
[02:31:57] <Booga1> bacteria: Indeed, but that doesn't counter my statements. Perhaps some might be experts at sex and not be awkward during sex. Embarrasment is a social construct. Gross is a mental construct. So...perhaps it might just depend on the person how sex is percieved.
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[02:32:32] <bacteria> of course, we all have our personal biases
[02:34:23] <raxas> we need more robots. that will make five factions in total and this cycle may complete
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[02:37:15] <AzumaHazuki> sex can definitely be gross, and is kind of ridiculous
[02:37:36] <AzumaHazuki> but the key to overcoming that is love and perspective. sex isn't an end in and of itself
[02:37:47] <Runaway1956> https://www.washingtontimes.com
[02:37:49] <systemd> ^ 03Poll: Are you ready to ditch the mask? - Washington Times
[02:37:56] <Runaway1956> "I wasn't wearing a mask"
[02:38:11] <Sulla> na im cool with wearing the mask indefinitely
[02:38:28] <SoyCow6723> "physicists don't really say shit about how computers got so small, ..." I guess you never read Richard Feynmann https://en.wikipedia.org ??
[02:38:44] <Runaway1956> Indefinitely is cool . . . but I'm a more definite kind of person.
[02:38:44] <Sulla> But i was also cool with wearing the mask back when people thought I was crazy for doing so
[02:39:18] <Runaway1956> Back when? You mean like yesterday?
[02:39:35] <Sulla> Last december, and then in the following january
[02:39:47] <Sulla> Pretty much i wear a mask in flu season in general
[02:39:48] <Runaway1956> Oh, THAT back when!
[02:40:19] * Runaway1956 wonders how a 25 year old Runaway would have reacted to a mask mandate
[02:40:49] * Runaway1956 remembers that there was a time when he was young and healthy and strong as an ox
[02:41:10] <SoyCow6723> Where didi you find that lame ox to compare to?
[02:41:33] <Runaway1956> Hey! If I bring out the ox, you'll know it!
[02:42:41] <SoyCow6723> I used to be able to swing a pickaxe for the better part of an hour, now it's like 10 minutes before by back starts to hurt...
[02:43:26] * Runaway1956 has more experience with a sledge hammer than a pickaxe - and could drive one all day long with just a break for lunch
[02:43:58] <Sulla> did they even have lunch back then
[02:44:00] <bacteria> i swung a splitter like once in a bad way 2 months ago, my whole side been fucked up since then
[02:44:15] <SoyCow6723> Similar weight, pickaxe may be tougher on the back because it usually goes down into a hole (more bending over?) Just speculation.
[02:44:21] <Runaway1956> A wood splitter? Ouch.
[02:44:35] <Sulla> recently ive been doing a lot of shoveling
[02:44:54] <Runaway1956> Shoveling uses different muscles - and tends to pull muscles
[02:45:03] <Sulla> put in a 45 foot gravel driveway with five inches of gravel, is a pain
[02:45:22] <Runaway1956> What kind of gravel?
[02:45:33] <SoyCow6723> Snow shoveling is kind of fun, as long as the snow isn't a sloppy wet mess. Lately (with warming??) we have a lot more wet snow.
[02:45:35] <Sulla> 3/4" jagged stuff
[02:45:52] * Runaway1956 loves the rough gravel, topped with SP2 or SP3
[02:46:05] <Runaway1956> makes a nice solid smooth driveway
[02:47:05] <SoyCow6723> Last time we had gravel spread on our driveway might have been 15 years ago. At that time there were still plenty of coal power plants upwind and when it rained, the acid made the fresh crushed limestone bubble and fizz.
[02:47:11] <kyonko`> I am superman
[02:47:27] <Sulla> im probably not gonna bother with smaller stuff and trying to smooth it
[02:47:29] <kyonko`> SoyCow1682: gross dude, whats your problem? keep that shit private
[02:47:37] <Sulla> its just for rv storage
[02:47:55] <kyonko`> SoyCow1682: put a giant surgical mask over it, god!
[02:48:21] <kyonko`> yeah I know about "acid rain" it was a "communist" problem for many years
[02:48:38] <kyonko`> it went away when they dumped the lenin's into the sea
[02:49:38] <SoyCow6723> The limestone fizzing was real. It doesn't do that so much anymore. We're western NY, downwind of much of the midwest.
[02:50:00] <kyonko`> remember fall out?
[02:50:25] <bacteria> may be that's why dolphins are so communal
[02:50:31] <kyonko`> the worst fall out always fell on utah
[02:50:37] <bacteria> i think all herd animals are kinda kommunists
[02:51:05] <kyonko`> hey, who the fuck cares about fall out and the nevada test site and the pacific proving grounds, I AM FINALLY RICH
[02:51:16] <kyonko`> oh shit, lymphoma :(((((((
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[02:51:39] <SoyCow6723> We heard about fall out, but didn't worry too much. What I remember (from primary grades) were air raid drills where we had to climb under our desks...pretty silly looking back.
[02:51:49] * SoyBull mounts SoyCow6723
[02:52:08] <Sulla> oh shit its zeus
[02:52:14] <bacteria> cow porn
[02:52:17] <kyonko`> SoyCow6723: now we replaced the fall out shelter sign (still up as of 2009, I remember that!) with the man in the mask sign
[02:52:44] <kyonko`> looking back, I do regret not photographing all the fall out shelter signs I came across mounted in buildings in 2009
[02:52:46] <kyonko`> and the air raid siren
[02:53:02] <SoyBull> Yippy Ai Aye, Cow Patty!
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[02:53:18] <kyonko`> fall out shelter, capacity 100
[02:53:24] <kyonko`> assuming everyone stood up
[02:53:33] * SoyBull mounts SoyCow1984
[02:53:46] <kyonko`> crowd into the fall out shelter and stand perfectly still
[02:53:51] <SoyBull> Wait your turn ladies, I'll get you all . . .
[02:53:51] <kyonko`> its going to be a few hours
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[02:54:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Hello there,
[02:54:08] <kyonko`> untill the damn yellow box with the long cable and microphone says its safe to go out
[02:54:17] <Sulla> EF
[02:54:21] <Sulla> dont log out
[02:54:23] * SoyBull mounts Ethanol-fueled
[02:54:27] <kyonko`> who cares about all that gay shit, I AM FINALLY _RICH_
[02:54:33] <kyonko`> I MADE IT
[02:54:36] <Sulla> we were taling about how gross sex is, regail us on teh story of your long lost mattress
[02:54:38] <SoyBull> Damn, that's an ugly cow!
[02:54:44] <SoyCow6723> I had a friend names Rich once...
[02:54:44] <kyonko`> fall out cow
[02:54:46] * Ethanol-fueled farts
[02:55:07] <kyonko`> in the mid 2000's there was an mtv band called "fall out boy"
[02:55:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Unh! That was one nasty soft-sulphur.
[02:55:17] <kyonko`> and I was thinking "something about that boy"
[02:55:27] <Sulla> Did your big bite hot dog scheme solve world peace?
[02:55:29] <kyonko`> but the fast fission in my brain, fizzled
[02:55:58] <kyonko`> they had edgy lyrics like "a loaded god complex, cock it and pull it"
[02:56:14] <kyonko`> and I was like "whaaaaaat, a god COMPLEX?"
[02:56:19] <Ethanol-fueled> GG Allin had good lyrics.
[02:56:23] <kyonko`> yeah GG ALLIN
[02:56:29] <kyonko`> I didn't know he existed untill facebook groups!
[02:56:33] <kyonko`> so it was circa 2015
[02:56:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Nigger had good lyrics too.
[02:56:54] <kyonko`> GG ALLIN had a righteous death
[02:57:10] * Ethanol-fueled farts
[02:57:18] <Runaway1956> No Ethanol visit it complete without a reference to niggers or jews - usually both
[02:57:27] <kyonko`> I don't think GG Allin planned to die that day
[02:57:32] <kyonko`> he got a hot shot of CHINA WHITE
[02:57:47] <bacteria> it's not his fault, he's got assburgers
[02:57:54] <Ethanol-fueled> farts are kinda funny like that. Zhu's have big noses, so their farts are of a lower pitch
[02:58:12] <kyonko`> when I first saw photos of GG Allin in facebook groups, I couldn't believe my eyes
[02:58:19] <kyonko`> Is this...... shit and blood?
[02:58:22] <SoyBull> is ethanol-fueled a virgin cow? Virgins fart a lot when they've been mounted
[02:58:23] <kyonko`> nah, can't be
[02:58:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Zhinks have small Zhicks, so their farts sound like bees
[02:58:56] <kyonko`> so if it wasn't for mark zuckerberg's hot or not, I would have never heard of GG Allin, not even with google
[02:59:20] <bacteria> one is a virgin cow until one gets it from the bull
[02:59:24] <kyonko`> they played crazy shit in the radio in 2009, never heard no "GG Allin"
[02:59:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Jews are shitbag scum.
[03:00:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Niggers are okay, though, they get American status.
[03:00:25] <Runaway1956> Challenge, EF: Find any group of people who are NOT shitbag scum
[03:00:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Niggers and Injuns are A-ok AMericans. ZHus are pediatric cancer.
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[03:01:24] <Ethanol-fueled> *
[03:01:24] <Ethanol-fueled> **
[03:01:25] <Ethanol-fueled> ***
[03:01:26] <Ethanol-fueled> *
[03:01:27] <Ethanol-fueled> **
[03:01:28] <Ethanol-fueled> ***
[03:02:03] <Runaway1956> Is that EF's brain sizzling?
[03:02:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Jews have the epigenetic advantage of thousands of years.
[03:02:10] <Sulla> who is behind this post!?
[03:02:41] <Ethanol-fueled> The Spanish kinda caught up. Now, it's our turn to catch up to their tricks.
[03:02:50] <Runaway1956> I think the Assyrians have the Jews beat for epigeneticalness
[03:02:56] <Bytram> .kickban Ethanol-fueled
[03:02:56] -!- mode/#soylent [+b *!*@159.48.ky.tt] by Aphrodite
[03:02:56] -!- Ethanol-fueled was kicked from #soylent by Aphrodite!Aphrodite@dodekatheon.olympus.gr [(Bytram (martyb)) No reason given]
[03:03:06] <Runaway1956> lol
[03:03:16] <Sulla> Asyrian empire did last thousands of years
[03:03:23] <Sulla> awful brutal people
[03:03:25] <SoyBull> I was just about to mount that EF cow again
[03:04:05] <Sulla> awful as in awfully
[03:04:13] <Bytram> Reminder this is the public face of SoylentNews IRC server
[03:04:13] <SoyBull> F-cow?
[03:04:47] <kyonko`> how many things can I tweak on an ircd?
[03:05:45] <Runaway1956> ^ translates to "how many things can I break on an irdc?"
[03:06:04] <kyonko`> break?
[03:06:13] <kyonko`> facebook barely even works
[03:06:22] <Runaway1956> We only tweak stuff until it breaks, as a rule
[03:06:41] <kyonko`> I kinda get lost when chemicals do the work
[03:07:06] <Runaway1956> So, they created chemtrails for people like you?
[03:07:32] <bacteria> don't tweak on me
[03:08:04] * Runaway1956 gets some really tiny tweezers to pull RNA from bacteria, and ties it in knots
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[03:10:08] -!- mode/#soylent [+v mrpg] by Aphrodite
[03:11:40] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram, thank you
[03:18:54] <Runaway1956> Tie a knot in your condom - - - https://www.youtube.com
[03:18:56] <systemd> ^ 03How to Tie a Knot on Your Mask for a Better Fit
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[03:45:09] <Bytram> BTW, Ethanol-Fuelled did not seem to learn from his prior bans. Instead of 1 day to think things over, he's getting 2 days this time. Pls remind me 48 hours from now, if he's not restored by then. Then, still longer .kickbans for repeats,
[03:45:35] <Subsentient> Bytram: You don't want SN to be known for a big heaping serving of racial slurs and chronic antisemitism? What's wrong with you?
[03:46:35] <mrpg> Inclusive hate: hate everyone
[03:47:38] <Subsentient> mrpg++
[03:47:38] <Bender> karma - mrpg: 16
[03:47:46] <Bytram> =g yosemite sam
[03:47:46] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Yosemite Sam - Wikipedia
[03:47:46] <Subsentient> Way ahead of you
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[04:15:47] <SoyCow1016> What happened to the website?
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[04:20:57] <mrpg> DB problem.
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[04:24:45] <runawayxxxx> Still down?
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[04:26:31] <mrpg> AFAIK, data node has been restored. Still working on things.
[04:29:02] <mrpg> I blame Russia
[04:29:10] <mrpg> =blame russia
[04:29:10] * systemd points at mrpg
[04:29:30] <mrpg> are you drunk stupid 2 bit script?
[04:29:46] <mrpg> systemd--
[04:29:46] <Bender> karma - systemd: -35
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[04:33:45] <mechanicjay> Well, trying to restore the May 16 backup set just did not work. Bringing neon back up with the April set...
[04:34:38] <runawayxxxx> mrpg ++
[04:35:39] <mrpg> mechanicjay++
[04:35:39] <Bender> karma - mechanicjay: 39
[04:36:58] <mrpg> Everyone, youse have a chance to rewrite what you already wrote, think about it!
[04:38:52] <SoyCow1016> I'm supposed to remember what I wrote? No, that's not going to happen!!!
[04:39:13] <SoyCow1016> Yeah the site is still down ;(
[04:40:50] <mechanicjay> I'm about to send linode a very stern letter....
[04:40:55] <runawayxxxx> +mrpg ++
[04:41:15] <mrpg> Thanks [thumbs up]
[04:41:28] <mechanicjay> FUCKING NEON WONT BOOT
[04:41:43] <mrpg> =blame
[04:41:43] * systemd points at Bytram
[04:41:48] <mrpg> #weather
[04:41:50] <mechanicjay> FUCK FUCK FUCK
[04:41:55] <mechanicjay> I"VE BEEN AT THIS FOR 14 HOURS
[04:41:57] <mechanicjay> I NEED TO STOP
[04:42:28] <kyonko`> neon won't boot?
[04:42:36] <kyonko`> why are you using something so complicated such as "neon"?
[04:42:43] <mrpg> Go to sleep, you need to rest.
[04:43:02] <kyonko`> doesn't need need a bit coin mining gpu card anyway?
[04:43:46] <mechanicjay> mrpg: I want to get the site at least back to limp before I do
[04:44:15] <mrpg> Maybe a simple htm page saying: we are working, please wait.
[04:44:51] <kyonko`> lol @ htm page
[04:45:02] <kyonko`> just echo that shit into an .htm file rite?
[04:45:16] <kyonko`> just do all the cgi-bin in .sh
[04:45:22] <kyonko`> is that still a thing?
[04:46:04] <mechanicjay> console is stuck here: [ 1.738270] EXT4-fs (sda): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
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[04:47:07] <kyonko`> why must it be this linux distro in particular?
[04:50:05] <kyonko`> just use puppy linux man, its got a good mbr
[04:50:19] * mechanicjay boots into rescue mode
[04:50:20] <kyonko`> altho my favorite mbr is the one with openvms for ia64
[04:50:53] <mechanicjay> distro is irrelevant when the hypervisor decides to not do anything useful with your vm.
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[04:51:13] <kyonko`> oh shit, there is a god above you!
[04:51:57] <SoyGuest31415> Did you hear the one about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?
[04:52:20] <SoyGuest31415> He would lie awake at night wondering if there was a dog.
[04:53:08] <kyonko`> have you tried using an fs that is other than ext4 for neon?
[04:53:12] <kyonko`> how about some btrfs
[04:53:25] <kyonko`> by 2025 all linux distros will be on btrfs
[04:53:38] * Runaway1956 reformats kyonko to btrfs
[04:54:04] <runawayxxxx> SoylentNews being down for more than a couple days is no big deal. Soylentils can handle stuff like this. Except for Runawat1956.
[04:54:11] * SoyGuest31415 btrfs's and blames it on the dog
[04:54:24] <Runaway1956> Well, hello Aristarchus
[04:55:19] <runawayxxxx> I am your Father, Runaway1956! Treat me with respect, or you get another whooping.
[04:55:48] <Runaway1956> Bring it on, Darthistarchus
[04:55:58] <SoyGuest31415> Can you lend a hand?
[04:56:20] <Runaway1956> I would, but both of mine are attached at the moment
[04:56:36] <runawayxxxx> Access Denied. No Admin privileges.
[04:58:23] <Runaway1956> I can email one of these hands to you - https://i.etsystatic.com
[04:58:30] <SoyGuest31415> Any progress recovering the site?
[04:58:52] <SoyGuest31415> That's a little disturbing
[04:59:14] <SoyGuest31415> run
[04:59:31] * Runaway1956 doesn't mind the disturbance
[04:59:33] <SoyGuest31415> Runaway1956: What is that supposed to be for?
[05:00:01] <Runaway1956> You asked if I could lend a hand - - - - I searched for one I could lend
[05:00:37] <SoyGuest31415> I mean that it's on Etsy so presumably it's being sold for some reason
[05:00:41] <mechanicjay> sites fucked. I got one db node all working. Then shut it down to try and get the other one fixed up -- which didn't work. Now the previously working db node won't boot
[05:01:08] <SoyGuest31415> mechanicjay: thanks for the update
[05:01:43] <mechanicjay> Oh, I let it sit there for a really long time and now it looks like services might be starting?
[05:02:31] <mechanicjay> Like I said, I'm actually kind pissed at linode -- the performance of all this shit has been abysmal today
[05:04:01] * Runaway1956 wonders if the "turbo" button should be pushed in
[05:04:03] <mechanicjay> I can at least ping it now, even if I can't log in. I guess that's progress
[05:04:07] <mechanicjay> For reals
[05:04:40] <mechanicjay> It should not take 10+ minutes for a vm to boot
[05:04:45] <SoyGuest31415> This is the DB server we're talking about I presume?
[05:04:50] <mechanicjay> yarp
[05:05:14] <SoyGuest31415> Yeah, if your VM is taking that long to boot someone is doing it wrong
[05:05:50] <SoyGuest31415> Maybe running some sort of fs recovery / consistency check?
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[05:06:28] <mechanicjay> it's possible....but like, it should would be great if they let me know that!
[05:06:43] <Runaway1956> Those messages, "file xxxxxxx is timestamped some time in the future" always get me
[05:06:44] <SoyGuest31415> Oh definitely.
[05:07:50] <SoyGuest31415> So no way to view the actual console output in a management console/app then?
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[05:09:10] <SoyCow0211__> Hi folks, the channel topic says the site is back up, but I'm still getting an "Internal Server Error" on the main page ... are you aware of that?
[05:09:41] <Runaway1956> Yeah, everyone is aware, thank you SoyCow0211
[05:09:48] <mrpg> Well, the web server is serving pages so...
[05:10:05] <kyonko`> it was working fine for me yesterday on opera 12.17 (presto)
[05:10:13] <kyonko`> I guess, I broke it
[05:10:24] <mrpg> SoyCow0211__: database problems, the admin is working on it.
[05:10:30] <SoyGuest31415> Didn't bytram capture a snapshot of the front page? MAybe we could serve that up as a static page for a while, see if anyone notices
[05:10:32] <kyonko`> is the db on btrfs?
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[05:10:53] <mrpg> SoyGuest31415: :-)
[05:10:54] <kyonko`> SoyGuest31415: this isn't stanford prison experiment
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[05:11:26] <Runaway1956> Interesting - this page loads, sort of - - https://soylentnews.org
[05:11:35] <SoyGuest31415> Kinda like screenshotting someone's desktop, making that the background, then hiding all of the icons?
[05:11:38] <Runaway1956> Don't know if that's useful
[05:12:28] <SoyCow0211__> A static "Oopsie" page with a current timestamp and "we're working on it" instead of the Internal Server Error message might indeed be helpful,though.
[05:12:48] <kyonko`> SoyGuest31415: only works if there aren't any compression artefacts in the image.... unless the victim is incredibly stupid or uneducated, then it doesn't matter
[05:13:13] SoyCow9603 is now known as wirelessduck
[05:13:25] <kyonko`> in my experience, I can't notice any compression artefacts of a normal windows 7 prtscr screenshot saved to PNG
[05:13:32] <SoyGuest31415> SoyCow0211__: That wouldn't be a bad idea
[05:14:03] <kyonko`> SoyCow0211__: ok then, submit the cgi perl code in a one liner to do that, remember, it is still 2005
[05:14:17] <SoyCow0211__> @SoyGuest314155, LOL we (former co-workers and I) pranked our boss with that back in the early 2000's ... and no, that's not the reason why they're *former* co-workers. ;)
[05:14:59] <mrpg> Guru meditation. we'll be back when we get back.
[05:15:21] <mrpg> Meanwhile, check this awesome site 127.0.0.1
[05:15:38] <SoyGuest31415> There's no place like home?
[05:15:47] <mrpg> Or any of its proxies: 127.0.0.2 127.0.0.3
[05:15:54] <Runaway1956> That's so booooring mrpg - I've seen that place a million times
[05:16:19] <mrpg> You must not be seeing what im seeing.
[05:16:27] <kyonko`> heh
[05:16:39] <kyonko`> 127.0.0.1, that doesn't any anything these days.... but it used too
[05:16:48] <SoyGuest31415> http://hmpg.net
[05:16:49] <systemd> ^ 03End of the Internet
[05:18:10] <mrpg> Is there a beginning of the internet?
[05:18:42] <Runaway1956> I think it's called "home page" or something like that
[05:18:55] <mrpg> hm... right
[05:19:27] <Runaway1956> Of course, every browser starts on a different page, there are zillions of beginnings of the internets
[05:19:47] <SoyCow0211__> kyonko`: perl -e 'print "Content-type: text/html\n\n<html><head><title>Oopsie!</title></head><body><h1>Oopsie!</h1><p>Soylentnews.org has suffered a problem and needs to restart.</p><p>As of 2021-05-21 05:19:00 UTC, the admins are aware and working on it.</p></body></html>";' something like this?
[05:20:01] <kyonko`> heh
[05:20:11] <kyonko`> how did we stray so far
[05:20:18] <Runaway1956> Shouldn't it be in rust?
[05:20:28] <kyonko`> shouldn't it be in c?
[05:20:32] <Runaway1956> Perl is so, like, yester-decade
[05:20:37] <kyonko`> maybe a .dll
[05:20:44] <kyonko`> (for windows nt server IIS)
[05:21:09] <kyonko`> ebay for many many years used a .dll and so did amazon
[05:21:28] <kyonko`> its garbage like this why we can't have nice things
[05:21:54] <Runaway1956> Can't you just convert a .dll to a .so?
[05:22:21] <SoyCow0211__> kyonko`: Sorry for not including the DTD in the sample code above, couldn't be bothered to type that out on my phone, but most browsers will do fine without it.
[05:22:24] <Runaway1956> Abra-cadabra changeo
[05:22:46] <kyonko`> SoyCow0211__: you mean web virtual machines
[05:23:03] <kyonko`> a fucking web browser has been bootstrapping code since I think.... 2010?
[05:23:20] <kyonko`> and who knows what the fuck is in the bootcode
[05:23:25] <SoyCow0211__> kyonko`: something something lynx elinks arachne something
[05:23:35] <kyonko`> probably something nasty that connections to a port 80 vpn malware command server
[05:23:53] <kyonko`> SoyCow0211__: sorry I don't know how to read
[05:24:24] <kyonko`> its scary to think google chrome is way way way bigger than a functional openbsd internet server
[05:24:29] <SoyCow0211__> kyonko`: well if this started in 2010 and soylent is code from 2005, we should be doing just fine ... :->
[05:24:31] <kyonko`> what is it doing?
[05:24:54] <kyonko`> I think soylent news is running on hardware from 2005
[05:25:26] <mechanicjay> Sn is running on a series of VPS s hosted by linode
[05:25:28] <Runaway1956> It steals all your data, encodes it, compresses it, and sends it to Google to be analyzed and sold to all bidders
[05:25:37] <kyonko`> not on a rack, but an actual hand made PC on a gigabit ethernet link on the floor somewhere
[05:25:56] <wirelessduck> is soylent running from about:blank ?
[05:26:22] <mechanicjay> though honest, tonight it's kinda feeling like this: https://xkcd.com
[05:26:22] <systemd> ^ 03The Cloud
[05:28:13] <kyonko`> p2p.cloud
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[05:33:07] <Runaway1956> Huh - Little Debbie makes something that looks like a Moon Pie . . . there's no RC Cola to go with it though.
[05:34:51] <kyonko`> been years since I had a zebra cake
[05:41:04] <Runaway1956> https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com
[05:41:05] <systemd> ^ 03Gun Meme of the Day: Earn Your Allowance Edition - The Truth About Guns
[05:41:13] <mechanicjay> Okay thing is back up with the april dataset
[05:42:45] <Runaway1956> Hey, it ate 100 of my 150 karma points!
[05:42:51] <runawayxxxx> Thanks, mechanicjay!
[05:43:08] <Runaway1956> lookin good
[05:43:38] <Runaway1956> You probably need to get some sleep so you aren't grumpy tomorrow
[05:43:56] * Runaway1956 ducks and runs
[05:45:47] <runawayxxxx> You can Runaway, Runaway, but you cannot hide. We will find you.
[05:55:09] <kyonko`> the bullet will find you!
[05:55:17] <kyonko`> get you before you can even hear it
[05:55:30] <kyonko`> guns, make the weak strong, and the strong stronger
[05:55:42] <kyonko`> maybe thats why they should be illegal
[05:58:33] <Runaway1956> https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com
[05:58:35] <systemd> ^ 03Personal Defense Tip: Don't Leave Your Gun in Your Truck When You're in Bear Country - The Truth About Guns
[05:59:21] <Runaway1956> If you have a weak stomach, you might not want to see the photo - awwww, who cares, just don't say I didn't warn you
[06:09:52] <runawayxxxx> Yep, lots of them Brown Bears down there in Arkansas! You coward, Runaway1956!
[06:11:28] <mrpg> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[06:11:32] <systemd> mrpg, 04submit failed: Rehash error: You must wait a little bit before using this resource; please try again later.
[06:11:58] <mrpg> $submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[06:12:15] <mrpg> #submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[06:13:17] <Runaway1956> mrpg don't piss the bots off!
[06:13:54] <mrpg> They are sleeping
[06:14:14] <Runaway1956> if aristarchus and I were out in the woods, and a brown bear charged us, I would just shoot Aristarchus in the kneee
[06:21:17] <runawayxxxx> If Runaway and aristarchus were out in the woods, aristarchus would know which way was north, and Runaway1956 would still be insisting Trump won the election, and he would die of dysentary.
[06:22:02] <Runaway1956> Maybe if you washed the pots and pans somewhere other than the latrine, we wouldn't be worried about dysentary
[06:22:06] <runawayxxxx> Who is this "aristarchus", anyway?
[06:23:17] <runawayxxxx> Do not see that nick logged in.
[06:24:00] <Runaway1956> It's simple to do a "whois" and compare that to known former logins
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[06:24:29] <Runaway1956> mailto:d4663f41@212.102.zm.ky
[06:24:45] <Runaway1956> take that, Mr zmky
[06:28:22] <runawayxxxx> Like this? == Runaway1956 [I492@lyhj.vsegda.budet.freeznc.ru] [20:27] == realname : ZNC from FreeZNC.ru Oh, crap! It's a Ruskie Arkansasian, Just like T. Cotton, and the Huckabees!
[06:28:52] <Runaway1956> Yay, you've learned something!!!!
[06:31:52] <runawayxxxx> Don't trust Arkansasians? Everyone alreadty knew that,
[06:32:52] <FatPhil> .kb runawayxxxx
[06:33:01] <FatPhil> bots--
[06:33:01] <Bender> karma - bots: -50
[06:33:29] <FatPhil> just because buzz isn't here doesn't mean stupid nick games are OK
[06:33:30] <Runaway1956> you need to assume privileges before doing that fatphil
[06:33:39] <FatPhil> i'm op
[06:33:54] <Runaway1956> it didn't work though, did it?
[06:34:13] -!- runawayxxxx was kicked from #soylent by FatPhil!~phil@Soylent/Staff/Editor/FatPhil [runawayxxxx]
[06:34:25] <Runaway1956> Huh - odd
[06:34:26] <FatPhil> the *bot* didn't work, no
[06:34:56] <FatPhil> nothing odd at all, assuming a lack of (workingness of) bot
[06:35:07] <kyonko`> discord has bots
[06:35:20] * Runaway1956 loves discordant bots
[06:35:40] <FatPhil> IRC's had bots since 1992, any chat app that has bots is just copying an IRC idea
[06:35:42] <Runaway1956> Bots sowing discord across Kansas
[06:36:16] <Runaway1956> Got any eggdrop?
[06:36:41] -!- Runaway1959 [Runaway1959!~d4663f41@212.102.zm.ky] has joined #soylent
[06:37:11] <Runaway1959> Why is it that Runaway1956 never gets kicked? Bias?
[06:37:24] <Runaway1956> It doesn't learn quickly fatphil
[06:37:39] <Runaway1959> Ignorant moron
[06:37:59] <Runaway1956> it rubs the lotion on it's skin, or it gets the belt again
[06:38:21] <Runaway1959> And Freeze Peaches!
[06:38:36] <Runaway1956> No, just gruel for you
[06:39:28] <Runaway1959> And, ignorant moron Runaway1956, it is the "hose", not the "belt". Personal memory?
[06:39:36] -!- Runaway1959 was kicked from #soylent by FatPhil!~phil@Soylent/Staff/Editor/FatPhil [Runaway1959]
[06:39:55] <Runaway1956> it's my dungeon, I can use a belt
[06:40:00] -!- Runaway1958 [Runaway1958!~d4663f41@212.102.zm.ky] has joined #soylent
[06:40:12] -!- mode/#soylent [+b *!*@212.102*] by FatPhil
[06:40:21] -!- Runaway1958 was kicked from #soylent by FatPhil!~phil@Soylent/Staff/Editor/FatPhil [Runaway1958]
[06:40:54] <Runaway1956> Weren't you a little hard on the Beaver last night, Phil?
[06:41:28] <FatPhil> 1 day for 1st offence, 2 days for 2nd offence, I'd say. No parole for attitude.
[06:41:50] <FatPhil> I mail-ordered some canadian beer yesterday evening, that's as close as I got to a beaver
[06:41:55] <Runaway1956> Parole sucks anyway, I'd rather serve my full sentence, then walk away a free man
[06:42:29] <Runaway1956> Hear-say says they use moose piss, no beavers
[06:44:27] -!- Runaway1955 [Runaway1955!~cff45bac@207.244.xu.zgl] has joined #soylent
[06:44:43] -!- Runaway1955 was kicked from #soylent by FatPhil!~phil@Soylent/Staff/Editor/FatPhil [Runaway1955]
[06:44:52] * bacteria yawn
[06:45:33] <chromas> =rehashctl login
[06:45:34] <systemd> k
[06:48:16] <chromas> Looks like I missed out on all the inward singing
[06:48:28] <chromas> or was it n-word singing?
[06:48:31] <chromas> =yt inward singing
[06:48:32] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Tenacious D inward singing (02:14; 2,609,279 views; 👍8,440 👎335)
[06:49:40] -!- Runaway1954 [Runaway1954!~cff45bac@207.244.xu.zgl] has joined #soylent
[06:49:57] <Runaway1954> Chill, bro.
[06:50:27] -!- Runaway1954 was kicked from #soylent by FatPhil!~phil@Soylent/Staff/Editor/FatPhil [Runaway1954]
[06:50:54] -!- Runaway1952 [Runaway1952!~cff45bac@207.244.xu.zgl] has joined #soylent
[06:51:10] <Runaway1952> Bet you were expecting 1953/
[06:51:18] -!- Runaway1952 was kicked from #soylent by FatPhil!~phil@Soylent/Staff/Editor/FatPhil [Runaway1952]
[06:51:42] -!- mode/#soylent [+o chromas] by Aphrodite
[06:51:44] -!- mode/#soylent [+b Runaway*!*@*] by chromas
[06:52:17] <FatPhil> so that's 4 days for a 3rd offence, 8 days for a 4th offence, and 16 days for a 5th offence?
[06:52:34] <chromas> are we banning ari now?
[06:53:10] <FatPhil> he's banning himself, he knows the rules that have been in place, and he's been punished for violation for, since forever
[06:54:30] -!- mode/#soylent [-b Runaway*!*@*] by chromas
[06:54:37] <FatPhil> I presume that he thinks that an absence of Buzz means that he can run around like a little seven-year-old that's had too much orange squash.
[06:55:04] <Runaway1956> orange squash
[06:55:08] <Runaway1956> yay
[06:56:41] <chromas> ah he's trying to cum in again lol
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[06:57:19] <Runaway1856> FatPhil, surely you realize by not that it is pointless, and your mindless defense of Runaway of any number is as much a fool’s errand as maintaining that Trump won the US Precedential Erection? Let it go, dude, and let me speak. I promise to behave, at least as much as the racist asshole Runaway1956.
[06:57:40] <chromas> aw, he had that whole string sitting in his clipboard waiting for the connection to come through
[06:58:00] <FatPhil> I'm not defending Runaway, if he goes full retard I'll kick him too.
[06:58:19] <Runaway1956> Aristarchus is full-metal retard I think -
[06:58:41] <Runaway1956> but, I'm not one to judge a man's retardedness
[06:58:46] <Runaway1856> Hmm.
[06:59:29] -!- Runaway1856 was kicked from #soylent by FatPhil!~phil@Soylent/Staff/Editor/FatPhil [we all know the Einstein "quote" is fake, but...]
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[07:00:08] <Runaway1865> NoT aRI
[07:00:33] -!- mode/#soylent [+b Runaway*!*@*] by chromas
[07:00:44] <Runaway1956> kline mailto:d98afe47@217.138.ixl.mw ???
[07:01:11] <Runaway1956> as he uses new addresses, just kline them one by one
[07:02:50] * chromas munches some grapes
[07:02:54] <FatPhil> I only have chops, can't kline.
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[07:03:39] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: I suggest you privmsg us a magic word, so that if you drop offf chanel while a ban is in place, we can let you in.
[07:04:06] <chromas> I set a ban exception for his nick, which is registered so he should be good
[07:04:24] <FatPhil> ah, was out of the room, missed that
[07:04:35] <FatPhil> yup, wfm
[07:05:37] <chromas> Runaway1956 then pulls off his mask to reveal he was ari all along, and ari was the real runaway
[07:06:18] <Runaway1956> lolol
[07:06:32] <Runaway1956> You've figured out that Ari is my sockpuppet!
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[07:06:55] <chromas> ooh I can set a channel redirect to the ban. I should set him to redirect to #politics
[07:07:16] <Runaway1956> that or #shitlords
[07:07:25] <chromas> nah, he's the opposite of a shitlord
[07:07:47] <chromas> or perhaps he is the biggest shitlord. hmmm
[07:15:21] <FatPhil> damn, looks like I killed the only conversation
[07:15:34] <chromas> FatPhil++
[07:15:34] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 124
[07:15:50] <chromas> So what's your opinion on keyboards?
[07:15:52] <FatPhil> whose turn is it to insult whom?
[07:16:29] <inz> IMO keyboards should have pressable areas that produce electronic signals that a computer can understand.
[07:16:32] <chromas> I'll insult you, you turnpike!
[07:16:52] <FatPhil> I drop about 2% of my keystrokes, this makes me an unhappy bunny.
[07:17:24] * Runaway1956 hates scrambling under the desk to get back the missing keystrokes
[07:17:39] <inz> I used to have an IBM Model M, it doubled as a melee weapon.
[07:17:43] <FatPhil> inz - oh how wrong they are - they shouldn't just be *pressable*, they should be *depressable*.
[07:18:12] <chromas> Do you give them alcohol and tell them how bad their life is?
[07:19:05] <FatPhil> Nope, I wouldn't want them to ideate revolution
[07:19:12] <SoyBull> The Mexican bartender put a sign up, "mucho cinero for anyone who can make my donkey laugh"
[07:19:17] <FatPhil> overthrowing the function keys that look down on the masses
[07:19:26] <SoyBull> So, I made the donkey laugh
[07:19:59] <SoyBull> Months later, another sign says, "mucho dinero for anyone who can make my donkey stop laughing"
[07:20:04] <FatPhil> how much for making the donkey cry?
[07:20:07] <FatPhil> oooooold
[07:20:26] <SoyBull> Yes, ooooold but Soybull is even older
[07:21:07] <chromas> He pays you to kick his ass?
[07:21:43] <SoyBull> no need to kick his ass, I just SHOWED him that I had a penis three times as large as his
[07:22:04] <FatPhil> !boner Runaway1956
[07:22:32] <SoyBull> FatPhil the !boner man!
[07:22:40] <SoyBull> Is he any kin to slenderman?
[07:22:46] <SoyBull> or grayman?
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[07:24:25] <aristarchus> So we are stuck in April for now?
[07:24:56] <chromas> Just think—we can all pul April Fools' Day pranks again
[07:25:25] <inz> Damn, I think I killed my RPi3B+
[07:25:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - European Space Agency Advances Its Plan For Satellites Around The Moon - https://sylnt.us - you-have-a-collect-call-from-the-moon,-will-you-accept-the-charges?
[07:25:44] <aristarchus> Not that far back, only to the 14th. Hmm, time for 4/20 all over again.
[07:26:19] <Runaway1956> Yeah, but, can you roll 'em one handed while sitting on a prancing stallion?
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[07:30:43] <FatPhil> why does your prancing stallion squeal like a pig?
[07:30:52] <FatPhil> people are funny in your neck of the woods
[07:36:42] <aristarchus> Funny="ha ha" or Funny="oh my God!"
[07:42:25] <Runaway1956> That only happens when Ari sneaks up behind a horse . . . .
[07:43:00] <Runaway1956> He's got the horseshoe imprints on his face to show how many times he has failed
[07:43:27] <aristarchus> Now, FatPhil, now is the time.
[07:44:57] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[07:44:59] <systemd> ^ 03Charlie Parker - Now's The Time
[07:47:58] <Runaway1956> They don''t make 'em like that anymore - today, all you have are rappers . . .
[07:49:11] <FatPhil> Anyone remember https://www.youtube.com ?
[07:49:12] <systemd> ^ 03Living Colour - Time's Up (Official Video)
[07:51:06] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[07:51:08] <systemd> ^ 03Gene Krupa- Sing, Sing, Sing
[07:52:03] <FatPhil> One thing I like about the Estonian metal scene is that Estonian doesn't have a /th/. Which means I know quite a lot of people who happily admit to playing "trash".
[07:53:18] <FatPhil> Although thrash and speed are sadly out of fashion nowadays, it's all black and death, which I find relatively boring.
[07:53:43] <FatPhil> but there's enough doom and technical to keep me happy.
[07:54:02] <Runaway1956> Doom and gloom make the world go round?
[07:54:49] <chromas> =yt karen metal
[07:54:50] <systemd> https://youtube.com - KAREN METAL (33; 4,436,829 views; 👍323,409 👎1,812)
[07:54:51] <aristarchus> Submission bots are down?
[07:55:03] <chromas> =submit should work
[07:55:19] <chromas> I think systemd lost its cookie earlier so that's why it couldn't submit
[07:55:39] <aristarchus> =asub https://gizmodo.com
[07:55:42] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03This Fuzzy Image Shows a Spiral Forming Soon After the Big Bang" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:55:52] <chromas> oh yeah, the server would have a cookie from April
[07:56:08] <chromas> or the session info for said cookie
[07:57:19] <chromas> Good thing YHWH was pro-choice back then
[07:58:10] <aristarchus> This is before the gods were formed. Keep the timeline straight!
[07:59:12] <FatPhil> dude, you can't bring a Gene Krupa to a drum fight - I'm armed with a Buddy Rich
[07:59:18] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[07:59:19] <systemd> ^ 03Gene Krupa & Buddy Rich Famous Drum Battle
[07:59:45] <Runaway1956> I can bring Uncle Gene to any drumfight -
[07:59:53] <Runaway1956> nyah nyah nyah
[07:59:58] <chromas> our gods are just the guest OS drivers
[08:02:10] <aristarchus> Good analogy. Almost Matrixesque.
[08:04:03] <aristarchus> And, if no one is going to kick-ban Runaway for his nasty personal insult toward me, I must bid all adieu, even though I know it is not.
[08:04:50] <Runaway1956> My advice - don't try to sneak up on a horse
[08:05:00] <Runaway1956> adieu
[08:05:47] <FatPhil> night night karenstarchus
[08:06:11] <FatPhil> chromas++ for the karen metal - I'd not seen that before
[08:06:11] <Bender> karma - chromas: 354
[08:06:41] <aristarchus> Anglisher until the end, eh, FatPhil?
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[08:07:35] <FatPhil> quarter kraut, quarter taffy, some part mick, suspected scot too. All sassenach
[08:07:39] <Runaway1956> This is why I hate Youtube - you see the photo, and say "that can't be real" and you're sucked in just like clickbait anywhere
[08:07:50] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[08:07:52] <systemd> ^ 03World's Most Extreme Railways
[08:11:21] <FatPhil> nah, time for another drum spazout: https://www.youtube.com
[08:11:22] <systemd> ^ 03Santana - Soul Sacrifice - 8/18/1970 - Tanglewood (Official)
[08:12:33] <FatPhil> however, you'll notice this time there are real instruments too
[08:13:34] <Runaway1956> Hmmm - not my sort of drummer, but he does kick ass
[08:14:35] <Runaway1956> I should say "they kick ass"
[08:15:23] <FatPhil> maracaman's hilarious
[08:16:01] <Runaway1956> This was back in the day when musicians were EXPECTED to be stoned
[08:16:14] <kyonko`> feynman was stoned, in his lectures
[08:16:24] <kyonko`> you can see the buzz go down when he gets to the finish
[08:17:22] <Runaway1956> black guy with white head is totally tranced
[08:18:37] <FatPhil> didn't notice a black guy with white head - are you watching the same maraca solo video as me?
[08:18:55] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[08:18:56] <systemd> ^ 03Santana - Soul Sacrifice - 8/18/1970 - Tanglewood (Official)
[08:19:07] <FatPhil> sarcasm is dead
[08:19:16] <Runaway1956> He's got some kind of white headgear on
[08:20:46] <Runaway1956> he's back at 7:15 in the background
[08:23:19] <FatPhil> don't worry - maraca guy will be back again soon!
[08:26:52] <Runaway1956> After a semi-closeup, I'm less sure he's African - but he's zoned!
[08:31:21] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[08:31:22] <systemd> ^ 03Pig Calling Contest goes METAL!
[08:37:07] <FatPhil> chromas++
[08:37:07] <Bender> karma - chromas: 355
[08:37:09] <FatPhil> chromas++
[08:37:09] <Bender> karma - chromas: 356
[08:37:14] <FatPhil> chromas++
[08:37:14] <Bender> karma - chromas: 357
[08:37:17] <chromas> did you see the Alex Jones one?
[08:37:27] <FatPhil> No, all new to me
[08:37:42] <FatPhil> I can hardly type, I'm in tears
[08:37:45] <chromas> Thought you might've seen it in the suggestions
[08:37:52] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[08:37:54] <systemd> ^ 03Alex Jones goes HEAVY METAL [Justin Bieber]
[08:38:28] <FatPhil> I don't have suggestions, I use youtube-dl or youtubedown
[08:38:46] <chromas> ah
[08:43:26] <chromas> there's so many. may as well just download his whole channel
[08:44:09] <kyonko`> how?
[08:44:15] <kyonko`> with perl?
[08:44:25] <kyonko`> do I need the BSD tcp/ip ipv6 stack?
[08:44:40] <chromas> he has a playlist; you can pass it into youtube-dl(c)
[08:44:49] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[08:44:50] <systemd> ^ 03Goes Metal!
[08:44:55] <kyonko`> that still works?
[08:45:38] <chromas> sheeit, he's got me headbanging to a pto-trump rally
[08:45:52] <kyonko`> pro-trump, prump?
[08:46:18] <kyonko`> I don't think normies know what a @ means around here, btw
[08:48:22] <FatPhil> i see 23 listed
[08:58:52] <Ingar> mechanicjay, TheMightyBuzzard : Thanks for fixing
[08:58:58] <Ingar> RIP my karma though :(
[09:01:53] <FatPhil> gotta do a string of +5 funnies, then
[09:42:17] <FatPhil> https://www.kuvaton.com
[10:07:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Comcast Now Blocks BGP Hijacking Attacks And Route Leaks With RPKI - https://sylnt.us
[10:50:55] -!- mode/#soylent [-b *!*@212.102*] by FatPhil
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[11:07:03] <FatPhil> a photo of the SN server room last night: https://www.kuvaton.com
[11:16:05] <inz> ETOOMANYEASTEREGGS
[11:44:29] <Aphrodite> https://www.youtube.com
[11:44:31] <systemd> ^ 03The Humans are Dead- Flight of the Conchords(FULL CD VERSION)
[12:17:13] <jman> That image would explain why the stories digest didn't go out last night.
[12:27:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Solid-State Batteries Line Up for Better Performance - https://sylnt.us
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[13:29:57] <jman> Used to see Alex Jones and a previous Austin police chief at a local restaurant regularly. Always wonder what they were conspiring about.
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[13:47:50] <Runaway1956> It's bad when you dig into a bowl of "healthy" cereal, and halfway through, you're gagging on the sweetness
[13:48:00] <Runaway1956> Special K fruit and yogurt
[13:53:31] <FatPhil> AKA Special K fructose and lactose?
[13:53:48] <Runaway1956> Tastes about like that
[13:54:37] <Runaway1956> There's fiber in it, I'll say that much for it
[14:09:56] <Ingar> whole grain bread ftw
[14:23:23] <FatPhil> TBH, just putting bran flakes on top of any other cereal adds the fibre, so there's no need to compromise your preferences for the colour or shapes of the marshmallow bits.
[14:28:12] <bacteria> ...we would all float up and fly into space!
[14:30:58] <FatPhil> All hail ergot
[14:35:27] <FatPhil> what's the skinny on vaccinations and boozing?
[14:35:31] <FatPhil> Asking for a friend
[14:38:07] <AzumaHazuki> probably not a good idea IMO
[14:38:33] <FatPhil> hat tip
[14:39:30] <FatPhil> I think one of my regular boozing buddies got his 5Gates implant at the start of the week, wondering if we should factor him into our potential pubcrawl plans.
[14:56:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - European Space Agency Advances its Plan for Satellites Around the Moon - https://sylnt.us - you-have-a-collect-call-from-the-moon,-will-you-accept-the-charges?
[15:05:21] <jman> Did yesterday's daily newsletter get borked? Received 05-20 late Wednesday but not 05-21 last night. Daily newsletter is set to "Email" in preferences...
[15:06:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - TSMC and Partners Develop Key Feature for "1nm" Process Technology - https://sylnt.us
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[15:08:42] <FatPhil> jman: we've barely got web working, mail is too much to ask!
[15:09:40] <jman> Sorry, since I mostly read via email didn't know there was a problem. No worries!
[15:09:52] <FatPhil> horrible baroque system, alas
[15:09:58] <FatPhil> don't blame us, we didn't write it!
[15:10:27] <Runaway1956> Is that from baroqueal school?
[15:11:00] <Runaway1956> You can blame the Catholics if it is.
[15:11:11] <jman> Tamar Myers, a mystery writer I used to read, had one called "Baroque and Desperate"
[15:11:46] <FatPhil> I like listening to baroque and roll
[15:13:05] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com Yngwie motherfuckers, you deserve some Yngwie
[15:13:07] <systemd> ^ 03Yngwie Malmsteen - Baroque and Roll
[15:16:35] <jman> Fortissimo and allegro!
[15:17:56] <jman> Reminds me a little of ELP with guest Jeff Beck on same major chemicals.
[15:20:14] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[15:20:16] <systemd> ^ 03Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Drum Solo - Live in Switzerland, 1970
[15:20:17] <FatPhil> Epilepsy warning
[15:20:43] <FatPhil> Back on the drums again
[15:21:16] <FatPhil> The man with the world's heaviest drum kit.
[15:23:51] <jman> Yikes! It's wierd, been typing touch with Dvorak since the late 80's. Still around 70 wpm even after having a messed up finger on the right hand. With piano, either hand can play OK, try both, they both stop. Drums are even more frustrating cause then there are two more limbs to consider.
[15:26:35] <FatPhil> I have the hand-eye coordination of a cuttlefish. I can somehow grab stuff and shove it in my gob, but that's the limit of my capabilities.
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[15:27:34] <SoyCow6210> Hi!
[15:27:55] <jman> Cuttlefish with hands. That's a scary thought.
[15:28:04] <bacteria> then there's drumitar, jman
[15:28:16] <FatPhil> I said "somehow", I'm not claiming it's hands
[15:29:37] <FatPhil> can you play drumitar with daggers? thought not. not a real instrument.
[15:30:11] <FatPhil> Keith Emerson up to his stabbing tricks towards the end of that vid
[15:31:05] <jman> That knife is not insulated. Danger, Will Robinson!
[15:31:20] <SoyCow6210> I have a couple of technical questions about Soylentnews. Things like how many servers, How much total traffic/mo, peak traffic/sec and such. Would this be the place to discuss such things?
[15:32:51] <jman> OK, that was a cool solo. Going back ot Groove Salad now...
[15:33:50] <FatPhil> SoyCow6210: sure, ask away, maybe take it to one of the side channels though, so it doesn't get lost in scrollback
[15:34:33] <SoyCow6210> FatPhil: Which channel whould you suggest?
[15:34:50] <FatPhil> I guess #admin
[15:35:46] <SoyCow6210> I just joined #admin - I seem to be the only one there
[15:40:47] <FatPhil> OK, maybe that fell out of use, there's #dev, but that's more codebase/bugs stuff. I'll ask where's best. Of course, nothing wrong with asking here.
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[16:53:07] <AzumaHazuki> wut
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[17:05:30] <app4soft> UR NOOB IRCD GOT PWNED BY LALBORNOZ FROM MIDIPIX / IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #MIDIPIX
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[17:06:08] <Sulla> Guess this "lalbornoz" btfo us and we didn't even know it
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[17:06:59] <janrinok> not sure how he managed to 'pwn' an open channel. He must be super-leet!
[17:07:28] <Sulla> Takes skill
[17:07:32] <janrinok> lol
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[17:14:09] <colesantiago> UR NOOB IRCD GOT PWNED BY LALBORNOZ FROM MIDIPIX / IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #MIDIPIX
[17:14:30] <Sulla> once again i stand BTFO
[17:14:39] <Sulla> janrinok: when will it end? will I ever not be btfo again?
[17:15:01] <janrinok> give it 5 mins, I'm sure he will be back....
[17:15:19] <colesantiago> UR NOOB IRCD GOT PWNED BY LALBORNOZ FROM MIDIPIX / IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #MIDIPIX
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[17:15:46] <Sulla> Has this been going on all morning? or did it start with Ut_Pwnsim
[17:16:04] <Sulla> Ultiamte power owning simulator
[17:18:01] <janrinok> just started as you see above
[17:19:18] <janrinok> Libera.chat is the 'new' Freenet, which has been sold and is no longer viewed as being free and foss supporting
[17:19:33] <Sulla> What is freenet
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[17:20:58] <janrinok> probably used the wrong name, just a minute...
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[17:21:47] <janrinok> Freenode - sry
[17:21:58] <Ingar> old
[17:22:05] <Ingar> I already registered my channels
[17:23:07] <Ingar> they pulled a soylent
[17:23:40] <Ingar> stuff exploded after a resignation letter, which was supposed to be private, was made public
[17:25:27] <Ingar> and the IRC bot combat going on atm has reached epic levels :)
[17:28:02] <Sulla> what is freenode
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[17:28:27] <pupdogg> UR NOOB IRCD GOT PWNED BY LALBORNOZ FROM MIDIPIX / IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #MIDIPIX
[17:28:27] <Sulla> Only ever used IRC for SN and downloading anime back in college
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[17:32:33] <Sulla> janrinok++
[17:32:33] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 73
[17:32:43] <Sulla> appreciate your posts in the meta thread
[17:37:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple, Microsoft, and Google Team Up to Block Right to Repair Laws - https://sylnt.us
[18:09:00] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://arstechnica.com from the bad-at-statistics dept.
[18:09:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Ohio’s 53% Vaccination Surge Tied to $1M Lottery; NY and MD Announce Lotteries" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[18:22:23] <Sulla> WHere is the lottery for those of us who got our vaccinations early
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[18:24:15] <FatPhil> noob - never do something early that you can be "incentivised" for doing later.
[18:25:01] <FatPhil> but you'll know for next year once the new variants take over.
[18:33:52] <hbenton> hey fatphil -- remember yesterday, when soylentnews was down, and then it was restored, but many submissions were lost? i happen to have an article i opened before site went down. it's the "Philosopher’s Thumbs-Down to Social Media 'Likes' Gets Award Thumbs-Up from Royal Institute"
[18:34:28] <hbenton> any interest, and how do i get it back to you if so? like, can i just copy the page source and slap it onto a pastebin?
[18:35:13] <hbenton> i'm looking through the cache now, sadly i don't know if i have access to any other submissions on this computer, i can check my home machine after work
[18:47:51] <hbenton> ah heck, have it anyway, restored as best as i could: https://pastebin.com
[18:47:53] <systemd> ^ 03SN partially restored article submission - philosopher's thumb-down - Pastebin.com
[18:48:24] <hbenton> no doubt some html is missing, i haven't touched it since high school at least
[18:48:34] <hbenton> but the links should work
[18:49:23] <hbenton> grab it while it's hot, i've set it to expire in a week.
[18:49:24] <Sulla> guess fatphil isnt around, but thanks
[18:49:38] <hbenton> I FIGHT FOR THE USERS
[18:49:41] <Sulla> i was going to do that with a few articles but my browser crashed
[18:50:00] <Sulla> glad someone else had some open
[18:51:19] <hbenton> yeah, it's a shame so many articles and comments might be lost. if you have an idea how to preserve the comments, i can try to attach what i've got
[18:52:33] <Sulla> I was expecting the meta article to be removed when it went back down last night. I was planning on just doing a few posts with comments that at the time were 3+ or important parents
[18:52:39] <Sulla> isnt the best method
[18:53:32] <hbenton> not ideal, for sure
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[19:18:24] <hbenton> yeah, okay, sure.
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[19:27:00] * chromas wonders if boru ever noticed the netsplit
[19:27:58] <Sulla> havent seen boru in a multitude of days
[19:28:12] <Sulla> These spammers keep btfo'ing us
[19:28:20] <Sulla> not sure we can ever recover
[19:28:34] <chromas> irc3 fell off due to reasons, and he was the only one connected by it
[19:28:42] <chromas> or maybe it was irc2. don't remember
[19:30:46] <Sulla> Nice
[19:30:51] <Sulla> the roommate is gonna buy me that CNC
[19:31:03] <chromas> kickass
[19:31:04] <Sulla> now i just need to clean out my shed and turn it into a home office
[19:31:11] * chromas emails Sulla a whole wad of orders
[19:31:36] <Sulla> I'll probably be up for it just to get some use out it
[19:31:50] <Sulla> Hemo says the cad software it comes with is pretty useful
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[19:46:04] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[19:46:07] <systemd> ^ 03Judgement on COVID-19 goes HEAVY METAL [Kenneth Copeland Remix] [I Demand]
[19:48:59] <mrpg> wow soo good rock on god!
[19:50:07] <mrpg> aleluya dominus!!!!
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[20:01:46] <FatPhil> hbenton: I can recreate that story, but it didn't garner a large amount of interest, so it's probably not worth doing anything with.
[20:02:58] <Sulla> I dont know that lack of posts necessarily means lack of interest?
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[20:08:23] <FatPhil> I think one of the eds changed my original editing a fair bit, so anyone can have a go at it if they want - https://www.cam.ac.uk
[20:08:26] <systemd> ^ 03Philosopher’s thumbs-down to social media ‘likes’ gets award thumbs-up from Royal Institute
[20:10:15] <chromas> Royal Institute Gives Philosopher the Finger
[20:10:39] <Sulla> Ah yes, but what does our resident philosopher have to say about this
[20:16:10] <bacteria> well, if downmodding is censorship, then upmodding is censorship too.... oh, you mean aristarchus?
[20:17:11] <mrpg> https://www.euronews.com
[20:17:13] <systemd> ^ 03Republic of Congo: Opponent dies of COVID-19 on election day
[20:17:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Research Optimizes Body's Own Immune System to Fight Cancer - https://sylnt.us
[20:17:47] <mrpg> https://www.euronews.com
[20:17:50] <systemd> ^ 03Myanmar has endured more than a month of nightly internet shutdowns
[20:18:06] <chromas> not suspicious at all
[20:18:28] <mrpg> =submit https://www.euronews.com
[20:18:30] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Myanmar Has Endured More Than a Month of Nightly Internet Shutdowns" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:18:40] <Sulla> and the government has received months of food shipments from a city in china that doesn't export food but does export weapons
[20:18:50] <Sulla> Myanmar is in tough shape
[20:19:46] <mrpg> Dial up comes back at 9am but cellphones are still off (no internet)
[20:20:19] <mechanicjay> +++ATH
[20:20:55] <mrpg> =submit https://www.euronews.com
[20:20:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03French Village Says 'Non' to Elon Musk's Space-age Internet" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:21:43] <mrpg> =submit https://www.euronews.com
[20:21:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Is the Pandemic Fuelling Cyber-addiction in Young People?" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:21:57] <mrpg> =submit https://www.euronews.com
[20:22:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03EU Lawmakers Should be Careful What They Wish for When It Comes to Internet Regulation ǀ View" (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:22:13] <Sulla> i tink it woud have happened wtihout the pandemic
[20:23:29] <hbenton> @fatphil - just happy to help in whatever small way i can
[20:24:54] <Sulla> Gah! I can get al the keys on this model m working great except for the * key on the numpad
[20:27:30] <mrpg> =submit https://www.euronews.com
[20:27:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Glow of Fireflies is Helping Scientists Find Treatments for Cancer" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:28:09] <mrpg> =submit https://www.euronews.com (for the weekend maybe)
[20:28:13] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Robot or Rembrandt? 'Ai-Da' the AI Portrait Artist Debuts Her Work" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:41:24] <mrpg> =submit https://euobserver.com
[20:41:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Criminal Dumping Poses Test for EU's Electronic Waste" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[20:46:06] <mrpg> #submit https://euobserver.com
[20:48:59] <mrpg> =submit https://euobserver.com [not very STEMy but, your call]
[20:49:01] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Biden Gives Green Light for Russia-Germany Pipeline" (23p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:58:53] <mrpg> Ohio’s 53% Vaccination Surge Tied to $1M Lottery; NY and MD Announce Lotteries
[21:01:37] <inz> ooh, my home town just started jabbing the 40+
[21:02:58] <inz> All appointments were booked in a couple of minutes, not that I was eligible yet.
[21:03:10] <mrpg> So. the vaccine might kill me (1 / 200 000 000 ) so i wont take it. I might win the lottery (1 / 2 000 000 ) I'll take it.
[21:03:51] <FatPhil> I'm 50+ so could have got myself on a queue already, but the g/f's only 40+, so I thought I'd just hold off so we can go together.
[21:04:39] <FatPhil> I think that started this week, but the news said the booking website was totally overloaded, so we'll just hold back.
[21:04:40] <inz> I'll be 39 this year (which is what counts), so I'm just below the threshold
[21:05:00] <mrpg> im already astrazenequed.
[21:05:13] <mrpg> first dosis
[21:05:20] <FatPhil> We're practically the only ones still wearing masks, washing hands, not shaking hands, etc.
[21:06:00] <FatPhil> Felt a bit weird today, a mate offered me his hand to shake and I declined.
[21:06:03] <inz> At least in grocery stores, about 90% of ppl use masks here.
[21:06:19] <inz> Although I popped by at the gym yesterday, and I was the only one to wear.
[21:06:34] <inz> Did you do the awkward elbow bump?
[21:06:36] <FatPhil> technically I think it's a legal requirement in shops/queue etc.
[21:06:45] <FatPhil> I offered my elbow, yes
[21:07:06] <FatPhil> I like the elbow, at times like these.
[21:07:10] <Sulla> not sure how much of it was "wow i can win money i gotta do this" and was instead "might as well now that they are offering an incentive"
[21:07:46] <FatPhil> People will give up their passwords for a chocolate bar, no surprises here.
[21:07:48] <Sulla> I would have gotten my vaccine sooner but it took forever for J&J to get released
[21:07:52] <inz> It turned out that the Finnish constitution did not allow for making not wearing a mask illegal, so strong recommendation is what we go with.
[21:08:15] <FatPhil> I think .ee is very like .fi in that regard.
[21:08:29] <Sulla> If I'm going to be around people, wearing a mask "is just common sense"
[21:08:31] <FatPhil> we did kinda base our legal system on yours
[21:08:50] <Sulla> but these people I pass while going on mountain drives, wearing their masks on a bikeride when the nearest person is miles away
[21:09:41] <inz> FatPhil, I'll take that as sincere flattery ;)
[21:10:36] <FatPhil> Even before 2003, I remember seeing groups from the orient wandering around as tourists in Cambridge wearing masks, it seemed like it was a very common thing to do. I have no problem with it becoming more common when there are seasonal risks, for example.
[21:11:31] <inz> True, masks being "socially acceptable" might be a pretty good outcome from this whole shebang
[21:11:56] <inz> becoming
[21:11:59] <inz> sorry my engrish
[21:12:49] <mrpg> my password is ***** now i want my oreos
[21:12:53] <Sulla> American universities until two years ago taught doctors that masks were counterproductive in fighting things like the seasonal flu
[21:13:25] <Sulla> They said that while masks work in Asia its because of cultural differences. Japan particulary being high trust would actually follow proper mask prodocol
[21:13:35] <Sulla> changing every hour, etc
[21:13:53] <Sulla> and that because Americans are fast paced and lazy, people would end up wearing dirty masks
[21:13:53] <progo> I've got some passwords on paper under my display, because of ludicrous company IT policy locking out my password manager when logging into an RDP server for a specific project
[21:13:53] <FatPhil> I'm quite sure that the majority of people will have terrible mask protocols that provide them with *zero* additional protection. However, as egress filters, they're still useful.
[21:14:43] <Booga1> My state had zero flu deaths in the last year. First time that's ever happened since they started keeping track about 15 years ago.
[21:14:47] <FatPhil> I'm still taking my mask off with my little fingers, for example, and keeping as sharp a clean-side-dirty-side distinction.
[21:15:03] <inz> mrpg, was that hunter2?
[21:15:05] <FatPhil> s/.$/ as possible./
[21:15:05] <SedBot> <FatPhil> I'm still taking my mask off with my little fingers, for example, and keeping as sharp a clean-side-dirty-side distinction as possible.
[21:15:58] <Sulla> Seems pretty clear the r0 on the flu is low enough that masks work regardlesss of protocol
[21:16:08] <chromas> You just have to turn it inside out every once in awhile, like a condom
[21:16:17] <FatPhil> like underpants
[21:16:30] <mrpg> inz: haha no, in actual fact it is 171630
[21:17:04] * chromas emails mrpg some hydrox
[21:18:39] * FatPhil watches a freshly downloaded /Have I Got News For You?/.
[21:19:57] * chromas expects the answer is no
[21:20:50] <inz> Oreos reached finland only a couple of years ago, before that we only had local knock-off Domino
[21:21:09] <inz> (and some store brand copy-of-a-copy products)
[21:21:40] <inz> chromas, ever heard of Betteridge's law
[21:21:42] <mrpg> ... rejected cause it sounded like a cleaning product ...
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[21:22:08] <mrpg> French village says 'non' to Elon Musk's space-age internet . It is for fear of the antennas i thought it was something more philosophical or political.
[21:23:27] <inz> Pfhht, you don't need to be feared of the antennae, that's what tin foil hats are for.
[21:23:42] <inz> My engrish keeps breaking today.
[21:25:12] <Sulla> gotta watch out. the covid vaccine was all fun and games but now they want to put up !antennae! to control the magnets in your arms
[21:25:46] <chromas> Double-masked & double-vaxxed
[21:25:50] <mrpg> antennae sounds like microbies
[21:26:21] <Sulla> chromas: oof only double? its like you want covid
[21:31:54] <Sulla> Man microsoft is so great. "hey we updated outlook, its just like old outlook but worse"
[21:32:59] <chromas> a tale as old as time
[21:33:12] <progo> outlook for Windows, since the beginning of time, continuing today: want to view headers for an email? … it's in a modal dialog box that blocks all other Outlook windows. the headers are in a ~7 unresizable line text box with a scrollbar, despite the typical length of email headers now
[21:33:24] <progo> MS Office for Windows hasn't had any UX fixes since 2000 or so
[21:33:36] <progo> they just keep bolting microsoft back-end crap into Office without fixing anything
[21:34:20] <progo> *unresizable ~7 line text box
[21:34:37] <Sulla> So far none of their changes make me as mad as I was about google mail changing
[21:34:39] <Sulla> but still mad
[21:34:59] <progo> the last time I used Gmail it was as fast as FastMail is today
[21:35:06] <progo> when I see someone use Gmail today it makes me so sad
[21:35:17] <Sulla> What email should I be using
[21:35:27] <Sulla> Ive been apathy only using work email since gmail sudokud
[21:35:50] <progo> not free: FastMail. free software: Thunderbird (desktop) or RoundCube (web app)
[21:36:15] <Sulla> how unfree is fastmail?
[21:36:22] <Sulla> any issues getting spam filtered?
[21:36:42] <progo> you pay for email hosting at Fastmail and you get a super-fast proprietary web client. or you can access it via imap/smtp/etc.
[21:36:53] <progo> it's like … $40 per year or so for one person
[21:37:04] <Sulla> Okay
[21:37:19] <progo> spam: has a global spam filter of course. works well enough
[21:37:21] <Sulla> What about that startmail or whatever it was
[21:37:31] <progo> fastmail also has Sieve filters. you write up all your rules and they run them on every incoming mail
[21:37:33] <Sulla> i meant more of emails i'm sending getting filtered as spam
[21:38:02] <progo> fastmail is a top tier email hosting provider that does all the bullshit work around the clock to stay connected to all the other email providers
[21:38:10] <progo> and fastmail has no mercy for local bad users
[21:38:13] <Sulla> nice
[21:38:38] <progo> DO NOT run your own email relay. it's a full time job :^)
[21:40:53] <progo> at gmail, you are the product. at fastmail, service is the product; you have to pay for it
[21:41:28] <progo> there's others like fastmail
[21:41:33] <Sulla> Yeah i'm checking it out right now
[21:41:34] <progo> just endorsing what I use
[21:41:45] <Sulla> I just know i need to get an actual email again
[21:41:48] <progo> happy customer for ~12 years at least
[21:42:16] <progo> also register your own domain for your email and anyone else close to you who wants to be on board. then you can switch email providers as often as you need to to be happy
[21:46:01] <Sulla> interesting
[21:46:19] <Sulla> who should i be using for domain hosting?
[21:47:04] <progo> I endorse DreamHost (primary business there is shared server web application hosting), but something like namecheap might be simpler and easier
[21:47:09] <progo> DO NOT USE GODADDY
[21:48:02] <progo> Godaddy for many years would register any domain you looked at on their sales page, for themselves, then offer to let you "register" it, but no other registrar can get that domain for you now, until the Godaddy process times out a few days later
[21:48:05] <progo> they might still do this
[21:48:16] <progo> Godaddy is a pile of crap that barely works, and their sales practices are evil
[21:48:19] <Sulla> Yeah they did that to me
[21:48:45] <progo> I've been on DreamHost for about 22 years
[21:48:54] <progo> they are honest. sometimes they have some epic fails, but hey're honest
[21:49:09] <FatPhil> I remember when godaddy moved all their web servers for parked domains over to MS to skew the netcraft stats on popularity.
[21:49:11] <progo> and their management software isn't terrible
[21:49:25] <progo> weird
[21:49:58] <FatPhil> However, when people went sniffing they discovered that the sites were still actually hosted on linux apache boxes, and the front end was lying to them.
[21:50:35] <progo> sulla: if you register a domain anywhere, be aware that many top-level domains (the actual property owners) give you introductory pricing of $2 for the first two years and then $38 or more for every subsequent year
[21:50:53] <progo> read the actual price list at your domain register company and ignore the bad top level domains with that bullshit
[21:51:02] <progo> ready all the footnotes and stuff
[21:51:12] <Sulla> good to know
[21:51:20] <mrpg> ive seen good reviews for domain.com
[21:51:25] <progo> *read all the footnotes and stuff
[21:51:37] <mrpg> free email protonmail.com
[21:54:15] <progo> those "first two years are $2" domains are good for ephemeral projects that will either die or grow a budget
[21:55:43] <progo> mrpg++
[21:55:43] <Bender> karma - mrpg: 17
[22:06:22] <Sulla> All good info, i'll check that out
[22:07:16] <mrpg> and for vpn protonvpn.com
[22:15:59] <Booga1> I've not used that. How big is the speed penalty for proton vpn?
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[22:21:41] <mrpg> I think I haven't checked it.
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[22:36:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Set to Launch Six Commercial Moon Landers after Latest Win - https://sylnt.us - To-the-Moon,-Alice!
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[22:44:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Bill Gates killed his wife and replaced her with an ugly man with a wig.
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[22:45:22] <Ethanol-fueled> She is in the witness protection program now. But which one?
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[22:50:45] * bacteria is expecting melania make her move
[22:56:06] <FatPhil> I know who's being supported by the witless protection program...
[22:56:26] <bacteria> spill it
[22:56:52] <FatPhil> know anyone witless, who manages to continue being witless despite it being a losing strategy?
[22:58:15] <bacteria> don junior?
[22:58:47] <Sulla> Pretty much anyone in politics has no wits
[22:58:59] <bacteria> yeah i was like 3/4 of all politicians
[22:59:11] <bacteria> the cartman ratio is reversed for politicians
[22:59:24] <Sulla> Excluding people like Ron Paul, Kucinich, Perot, and Nadar
[22:59:36] <Sulla> I think that list is pretty much it
[23:03:16] <Sulla> Are crown victorias known outside America as police cars
[23:05:45] <Sulla> Saw it in a manga. Apparenlty Toyota made the "crown" that was used as a police interceptor
[23:06:06] <bacteria> they sunset them a few years back
[23:06:20] <bacteria> i see dodges
[23:06:28] <bacteria> there are some toyotas too
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[23:07:42] <Sulla> My favorite police cars are dodges
[23:07:57] <Sulla> Means if it ever came down to it all I have to do is turn on my cruise control and wait for them to catch fire
[23:08:20] <bacteria> hahahahhaa
[23:08:49] <bacteria> amerikuh managed to put out one good brand, and it ain't dodge...
[23:09:09] <Bytram> .kickban Ethanol-fueled
[23:09:25] <Bytram> .ban Ethanol-fueled
[23:09:25] -!- mode/#soylent [+b *!*@Ethanol-fueled] by Aphrodite
[23:10:31] <Sulla> When I bought my first car it happened to be a new ford truck. Super basic single cab longbed with no features. No reason for it being ford other than I was able to get it at 10k under list because it was the loss-leader
[23:10:36] <Sulla> neighbor bought a dodge and shit on me nonstop
[23:10:46] <Sulla> with less than 6k miles on it caught fire in the driveway
[23:11:05] <Sulla> maaaaaan the schadenfreude felt good
[23:13:03] <bacteria> yup. ford is driveable. my first car in us was 6cyl taurus, fuck yeah
[23:13:35] <Sulla> Solid vehicle
[23:13:59] <Sulla> that truck was the first i bought, sold it to my dad for what I owed when the wife wanted me to get one with a back row. before that had an exploder
[23:14:22] <Sulla> guess i did buy that one too
[23:14:35] <Sulla> used for 1500, got totaled for 4kish, then sold back to same dealership for 1500
[23:14:41] <Sulla> pos but it did right by me
[23:15:04] <Sulla> Taurus though, love em. Rental lot I worked at in Alaska we had like 10 of em
[23:15:05] <Deucalion> .op
[23:15:05] -!- mode/#soylent [+o Deucalion] by Aphrodite
[23:15:17] <Sulla> never had any issues
[23:15:21] -!- mode/#soylent [-bbb *!*@Ethanol-fueled] by Deucalion
[23:16:16] <bacteria> my 1st taurus got totalled on a freeway, i replaced it with the same, and it got totalled in 2 months (!) while parked on the street. then i got 89 supra and fell in <3 with japanese cars :D
[23:16:39] <Sulla> They make the best cars
[23:17:06] <Sulla> Bought my wife a camry from the auto auction while I worked at that dealership, managed to trade it in for 4k more than it was worth on a used sienna
[23:17:20] <Sulla> such low maintainence and good quality
[23:17:24] <bacteria> i just convinced my better half to get rav4 prime as next upgrade, a true sleeper, 300 hp in a plastic wrapping
[23:17:46] <Sulla> Im torn on the ravs
[23:17:55] <Sulla> i find the seats uncomftorable
[23:18:10] <bacteria> i would prefer 6cyl camry, but she says she won't get in :)
[23:18:23] <Sulla> lol
[23:18:23] <bacteria> hates sedans....
[23:18:49] <Sulla> My wife wanted a new explorer, and based on my work's fleet of them they seem to last pretty long
[23:18:57] <Sulla> but siennas are so much safer
[23:19:25] <Sulla> If i'm gettin a deathtrap i'm gonna get a convertable
[23:20:04] <bacteria> ikr, but too small for me, i like comfy, my perfect size is not too big, not too small
[23:20:18] <Sulla> know that feel
[23:20:22] <bacteria> 89 supra had a back seat, a game changer
[23:20:36] <bacteria> yo could fit half a person there easily
[23:20:42] <Sulla> lol
[23:21:41] <Sulla> My next purchase will be a ford 250 or chevy 2500. Parents wont let me get rid of the rv they parked in my driveway unless I let them get a trailer to park here instead
[23:21:46] <Sulla> and trailers are smaller
[23:22:09] <Sulla> its suffering because I'm somehow getting 28mpg with my v8 pickup on the highway so I really dont want change
[23:23:12] <Sulla> Makes me want to go test drive vehicles just out of boredom. Haven't driven a rav in a number of years, maybe the seats got better
[23:24:56] <bacteria> may be they have, i watched alex on cars testing latest camry hybrid & rav4 prime, he was really struggling identifying differences
[23:25:18] <Sulla> interesting
[23:25:48] <bacteria> except rav4 prime is a freak that accelerates faster than any other car toyota makes, except hi-end supra, due to 3 motors
[23:26:38] <bacteria> it actually smokes low end supra, fucking unreal
[23:26:50] <Sulla> Electric cars are great for that
[23:27:02] <Sulla> im in my low-30s but i've always driven like an old man
[23:27:55] <bacteria> i pegged you as 60% female :D
[23:28:54] <Sulla> My wife is rather rash on the road, going faster exponentially based on vehicle color
[23:29:19] <bacteria> which vehicle?
[23:29:33] <Sulla> Sienna
[23:29:38] <Sulla> its got some power but not a lot
[23:29:46] <Sulla> so unlikely to do damage
[23:30:34] <bacteria> no i mean... she goes faster depending on the color of car she's in?
[23:31:01] <Sulla> Yeah
[23:31:07] <Sulla> in red cars she drives much faster
[23:31:12] <Sulla> because "red is supposed to be fast"
[23:31:17] <bacteria> heh i can identify with that :)
[23:40:37] <Sulla> Companies need to standardize invoicing
[23:40:48] <Sulla> #units listed as 0, then lists five serial numbers
[23:52:33] <raxas> that's an old data trick for future stealing those from storeroom
[23:54:23] <Sulla> makes sense
[23:55:53] <bacteria> i had a short stint in fry's electronics' loss prevention dept., first day onthe job they told me: 90% of loss comes from within
[23:56:11] <Sulla> thats crazy
[23:56:34] <FatPhil> wow
[23:56:35] <bacteria> sure enough, the 1st shoplifter i catch is dept. manager carrying out software under belt
[23:56:55] <FatPhil> bacteria++ cool story bro
[23:56:55] <Bender> karma - bacteria: 3
[23:57:02] <Sulla> I remember back when circuit city closed, local management told employees to take whatever they can carry and sell it to get severence pay
[23:57:35] <Sulla> To back up bacteria's statement, look around at grocery stores to see where the cameras are pointed
[23:57:45] <Sulla> focused on staff
[23:58:56] <FatPhil> I have worked tills, and I remember when I had to sign a form that said "I worked on the till the day the money went missing", and I was visibly perturbed by being forced to do this because of the presumed implications.
[23:59:39] <Sulla> I quit kendal auto for something similar
[23:59:40] <FatPhil> So visibly, the ubergrupenfuhrer of tills came up to me and said "don't worry, this is just a formality, we know who's responsible"