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[04:01:01] <Sulla> Chromas: ended up buying one of those replica keysets
[04:01:04] <Sulla> fantastic
[04:01:10] <chromas> which one?
[04:01:16] <Sulla> from that beamspring
[04:01:54] <chromas> They're pretty sexy looking. Are they worth the monies?
[04:01:56] <Sulla> I would have not gone on the quest for this HP keyboard had i known these existed first
[04:02:08] <Sulla> I found a full set new on ebay for 95 with free shippin
[04:02:11] <chromas> suite
[04:02:12] <Sulla> expensive but cheaper than amazon
[04:02:23] <chromas> I found some others on amazon for a bit less with different color schemes
[04:02:32] <Sulla> Only issue is the return key, but meh
[04:02:33] <chromas> all white, all black
[04:02:38] <chromas> no BIGass enter?
[04:02:50] <Sulla> nope
[04:02:54] <chromas> :'(
[04:03:23] <Sulla> O
[04:03:35] <Sulla> I'll have the ones from that broken beamspring in next few days
[04:03:36] <chromas> I have a cheap no-name keyboard with BIGass enter. It's so no-name that I'm pretty sure the label was rubbed off
[04:03:38] <Sulla> so i can compare feel
[04:03:47] <chromas> cool
[04:04:00] <Sulla> I was hoping to get a key from each row then try to epoxy them
[04:04:07] <Sulla> but was only able to get f and g
[04:04:28] <Sulla> i bought a "1" as well, but he emailed me and said the numbers were out of stock
[04:06:18] <Sulla> I found that if you go to amazon warehouse, search for keyboard, you can often find damaged box name-brand 100-200 keyboards for like 30 bucks
[04:06:25] <Sulla> including some where you can hotswap key switches
[04:07:39] <chromas> noice
[04:09:15] <chromas> feck. finally got my backup thing running...server's not go enough space
[04:09:28] <Sulla> lame
[04:09:33] * chromas cleans up the ssd before the puter figures it out
[04:10:44] <chromas> I haven't seen any bigass enter keys in SA profile. They're all either the ANSI or fugly ISO shape. Why do these things always happen to me?
[04:11:12] <Sulla> BUT APPLE
[04:11:25] <Sulla> the mm thick keycap is a feature
[04:14:47] <chromas> haven't been able to find any F13—F24 keys
[04:15:07] * chromas can't decide between duplicate F keys or blanks
[04:15:43] <Sulla> You might need to just scroll through old keyboards on ebay til you find one you can dark harvest
[04:15:46] <Sulla> and make some adapters
[04:16:10] <Sulla> The test adapter and the test switch plates hemo made arrived today
[04:16:42] <chromas> woohoo
[04:16:55] <chromas> have you had time to play with them yet?
[04:17:44] <Sulla> Yeah, he sent the adapter in two parts for now to get the measurements right for each side. Keycap side was perfect, the MX switch side was oh so slightly off. Like .2mm too big diagonally
[04:19:55] <Sulla> https://ibb.co
[04:19:57] <systemd> ^ 03IMG-20210517-211836-023
[04:19:59] <Sulla> top and bottom
[04:20:06] <Sulla> plate had four differnet sizes
[04:20:22] <Sulla> goal will be to make it just a series of rectangles where the switches can slide in the channels
[04:20:35] <Sulla> then i can solder them super easy, and then tack them in place with glue when i space it all out right
[04:20:58] <Sulla> So had to be tight enough to prevent vertical wobble, but loose enough to allow horizontal slide
[04:22:38] <chromas> excellent
[04:32:36] <chromas> I wonder if I could use keyboard case as an excuse to justify buying a 3d printer
[04:33:02] <Sulla> I'm going to spend 2k buying a CNC using a keyboard as justification, even though the purchase will occur after the keyboard is done
[04:33:05] <Sulla> i think you are in the clear
[04:33:38] <chromas> cnc sounds more fun
[04:33:46] <chromas> you can cut wood and metal right?
[04:33:50] <Sulla> ill link you to the one hemo has
[04:34:04] <Sulla> he has this one
[04:34:05] <Sulla> https://shop.carbide3d.com
[04:34:06] <systemd> ^ 03Shapeoko 3 CNC Router
[04:34:10] <Sulla> good for aluminum and wood
[04:34:13] <Sulla> i doubt it could do steel
[04:34:26] <Sulla> but im gonna do the shapeoko 4
[04:35:17] <chromas> hm, maybe I can just send the money to you and have you cut toys to send back
[04:35:33] <Sulla> Honestly id do it for free if its justification for my purchase
[04:35:43] <chromas> Sulla's Cutteins 'n' More
[04:36:03] <Sulla> Depending on what you need you can ask Hemo. He appears to have had a blast with the keyboard project and wont take my money
[04:36:17] <Sulla> apparenlty shapeoko can cut steel, nice
[04:36:22] <Sulla> just gotta get a good endmill
[04:37:25] <Sulla> Going to use this summer to turn my shed into my office for workin from home. Also gonna set up a table for doing electronics and set up the cnc in there whenever i can buy it
[04:40:43] <chromas> I was thinking about doing a dactyl keyboard but I dunno if I type enough for it
[04:41:12] <Sulla> Looks fancy
[04:41:14] <Sulla> whats it do
[04:41:25] <chromas> be ergonomic
[04:41:56] <Sulla> you coudl probably also just buy a case for it and then find the switches you like
[04:42:30] <Sulla> when you get to finding switches you want, id advise getting
[04:42:31] <Sulla> https://www.amazon.com
[04:42:31] <chromas> I've seen people selling the cases on etsy and whatnot for about $100
[04:42:39] <systemd> ^ 03Amazon.com: Max Keyboard Kailh Box Key Switch 14-Key Tester (Printed PBT Keycap with Kailh Box Keyswitch Color Included): Computers & Accessories
[04:42:40] <chromas> but I need moar switches
[04:43:04] <Sulla> i mean kinda pointless because chads use a combination of Jades and Navys
[04:43:22] <Sulla> but some people like to be the earstwhile rubber dome virgin
[04:43:32] <chromas> das me :'(
[04:44:34] <Sulla> Difference between most switches and the kailh box navy/jade is that they use a click bar
[04:44:40] <Sulla> is a much less high pitch click
[04:44:43] <Sulla> and much more tactile
[04:45:02] <Sulla> could full gamer get speed switches with a super high actuation point
[04:45:20] <chromas> Having not tried any mech switches, I feel like I want maximum tactility, but probably should go easy on the click because housemates
[04:45:48] <Sulla> Could do box royal
[04:45:54] <Sulla> its nice and tactile but quiet
[04:46:06] <Sulla> If you want I can send you one of each, i have a ton of spares
[04:48:32] <chromas> Help, guys, he's luring me down the keyboard rabbut hole!
[04:48:41] <Sulla> This is a keyboard site now
[04:48:56] <Sulla> SN - Keyboards for nerds, stuff that matters
[04:49:06] <Sulla> the hell did you think disco meant
[04:49:16] <Sulla> https://www.youtube.com
[04:49:18] <systemd> ^ 03MonkeyKing Custom iGK61 60% keyboard review (Kailh BOX Royal)
[04:49:18] <chromas> I assumed it was cherry mx
[04:49:47] <chromas> I've been watching so many of his videos lately
[04:49:52] <Sulla> as have I
[04:49:57] <Sulla> i didn't wanna be a keyboard autist, but here i am
[04:52:42] <chromas> "box switches use a mount that's ever so slightly wider than cherry mount"
[04:52:45] <chromas> is that your issue?
[04:53:12] <Sulla> https://ibb.co
[04:53:13] <systemd> ^ 03breakdown
[04:53:37] <Sulla> Anything i have found that fits a cherry, fits better with a kalih box
[04:54:09] <chromas> alright, time to boot up a youtube channel
[05:00:23] <Sulla> Orignally i went the route of wanting royals to not make too much noise
[05:00:28] <Sulla> then i tried the jades and navy
[05:00:40] <Sulla> and decided id rather let the world burn than not use jade/navy
[05:01:06] <chromas> Are you mixing them or?
[05:01:44] <Sulla> Yeah. For keys my pinky hits or my index finger hits when extended I use Jades because they have a lower weight
[05:01:55] <Sulla> for all modifier keys and everything else I use Navy
[05:02:06] <chromas> even the spacebar?
[05:02:16] <Sulla> spacebar is navy
[05:02:23] <Sulla> its slightly heavier
[05:03:03] <Sulla> Then because I had to remake the stabilizers, I'm just going to use linear cherry MX reds with a super lightweight spring from a cherry mx brown
[05:04:15] <Sulla> I think the weight on jades is 40, navy is 60
[05:04:23] <Sulla> right now im using Alaiz 100 weights
[05:04:25] <Sulla> and hating my life
[05:05:45] <chromas> But soon you'll be able to lift a car with your pinky
[05:06:26] <Sulla> yeah but dont know if it will be before or after i have to get surgury for my tendons
[05:06:54] <Sulla> These 100 weight switches are fun for 10 minutes
[05:06:59] <Sulla> then suffering for the rest of the day
[05:07:13] <Sulla> I found navy/jade to make me want to work more so i can do more typing
[05:07:26] <chromas> Just do 5 minutes every morning as part of your workout routine
[05:07:52] <Sulla> woohoo finally ill have a workout routine
[05:08:26] <chromas> DROP down and give me 20 ctrl-alt-dels!
[05:09:00] <Sulla> can i apply for workers comp if they didn't specifically tell me what key weight i cant exceed?
[05:12:23] <chromas> no comp. you may return them within 30 days. you pay shipping
[05:12:31] <Sulla> lame
[05:13:11] <chromas> shit. I'm backing up the wine directory. no wonder it's so huge
[05:13:25] <Sulla> But do you have a backup for your backup?
[05:13:41] <chromas> I should back it up to the desktop
[05:13:49] <Sulla> 1000iq move
[05:13:55] <chromas> make the two boxes back each other up, including the backup files
[05:15:18] <Sulla> I recently learned that the backup copies i have been keeping of my old civ IV games for like 10 years
[05:15:23] <Sulla> have been corrupt for 10 years
[05:17:27] <chromas> I'd've completely forgotten what I was doing after that long (or even 5 months) and would have to start a new game anyway
[05:17:57] <Sulla> Mostly i twas to keep a single saved game from years back that was glorious
[05:18:25] <Sulla> that and all the files so i never had to reinstall it again
[05:19:24] <chromas> You'll have to set up a new box just for occasionally testing your backups
[05:19:40] <Sulla> naturally and a box to back up the backups
[05:19:43] <Sulla> that i'll need to test
[05:19:50] <Sulla> never gonna be in this situation again
[05:20:39] <chromas> If you pray hard enough, maybe the NSA will send you a copy of your files
[05:21:09] <Sulla> I wouldn't mind them so much if they provided a service like that
[05:21:24] <Sulla> "Uh hi NSA, i deleted an important work file, do you have an older version of it?"
[05:22:01] <chromas> You don't even need to provide login details. They know it's you
[05:22:17] <Sulla> ENdless convenience
[05:22:28] <chromas> "Fuck, where'd my save go? suuuuu"
[05:22:35] <chromas> [file mysteriously appears on desktop]
[05:23:09] <Sulla> I see that you sent me "two redheads stuck on roadside visit the carwash.mpg" but I was looking for "FY21 Cash Flow Statement"
[05:25:06] <chromas> memoryhole.gov — putting your taxes to work for you!
[05:25:20] <Sulla> Would be nice to get something out of it
[05:25:33] <Sulla> They "refinished" the road by my house recently with a new top coat
[05:25:50] <Sulla> fell apart within the month, gravel everywehre, was way better before they did the work
[05:25:55] <chromas> When our town does a chipseal, it's just like half loose gravel
[05:26:14] <chromas> "bu-bu-but it makes the road last longer"
[05:26:26] <Sulla> Its the contractors that they hire
[05:26:32] <Sulla> they have to go with lowest bid for some of these projects
[05:26:51] <Sulla> or in my case, it was the new "enviornmentally frendly slury"
[05:26:59] <Sulla> lowers the delicious dinosaur to gravel ratio
[05:27:28] <chromas> If we don't sin then those dinosaurs died for nothing
[05:27:44] <Sulla> Truth
[05:28:39] <Sulla> Glad the AC kept bringing up foreverwar, have been meaning to re-read it
[05:29:14] <Sulla> Well, just got the email that my kids wont be going back to school this year
[05:29:18] <Sulla> got condemned
[05:29:28] <Sulla> Beam came loose holding up the gym
[05:29:38] <chromas> too much lead and asbestos?
[05:29:50] <chromas> ah. unrepairable?
[05:29:53] <Sulla> Yeah
[05:30:19] <Sulla> apparenlty the church next door volunteered their facilities, but due to parent complaints about no god in school, they just have to go remote
[05:30:22] <chromas> Loose beam. Tear the whole thing down and build a whole new school for only $30m
[05:30:45] <Sulla> Apparenlty its a steel beam that runs through both gyms and then half the school
[05:30:53] <Sulla> 1000iq design
[05:30:56] <chromas> that's a big beam
[05:31:46] <chromas> we got our schools rebuilt in the last 10 years. Apparently the current trend is placing buildings askew relative to the roads
[05:32:11] <Sulla> We are going through that right now
[05:32:40] <Sulla> this school was gonna be the last on the list, but guess they found it a way to move it up
[05:32:42] <chromas> they put the lower grade school in what used to be the playground so the kids have to use binoculars to see into the girls' dorm across the stree now
[05:33:07] <Sulla> is that a thing people do or is it just a anime meme?
[05:33:29] <chromas> Not sure. I just like the word "binoculars". Funny word
[05:33:41] <Sulla> lol
[05:34:07] <chromas> There is a dorm across the street though, complete with a ham repeater on the roof
[05:34:29] <Sulla> that stuff even legal now or the govt shut it all down?
[05:35:27] <chromas> still legal but supposedly the arrl or someone was sending out emails about the baofeng radios because they were featured at the capitol selfies event awhile back
[05:35:50] <Sulla> oh noes there should be a law
[05:36:04] <chromas> they're nice little radios that don't block transmission on the local emergency bands ;)
[05:36:36] <chromas> 2m/70cm
[05:37:05] <Sulla> I was always too lazy to look into all that
[06:25:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ethereum Co-Founder Vitalik Buterin Destroys 7 Trillion Shiba Inu Coins - https://sylnt.us - much-gone
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[07:11:06] <c0lo> Got me 3 times, how do you fare? https://termsandconditions.game
[07:11:07] <systemd> ^ 03Terms & Conditions Apply - A fun mini-game about pop-ups and the deviousness of websites and apps;
[07:37:10] <chromas> I got six wrong :(
[07:37:35] <chromas> The Feeling Lucky ones got me extra
[07:44:02] <FatPhil> https://www.bbc.com
[07:44:04] <systemd> ^ 03Crowland WWII Buffalo LVT dug up after 74 years underground
[07:51:01] <halibut> It said, ``You need to enable Javascript to play.'' ... so I closed the tab. Did I win?
[07:58:54] <kyonko`> FatPhil: does your country have ww2 archeologists?
[08:57:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple’s M1 is a Fast CPU—but M1 Macs Feel Even Faster Due to QoS - https://sylnt.us - quality
[09:00:47] <FatPhil> we still have mine hunts!
[09:02:00] <kyonko`> I saw on RT a few days ago, don't really like watching shit like RT or CCTV
[09:02:11] <kyonko`> that discovered german soldiers were being sent back to germany
[09:02:14] <FatPhil> some RT's fine
[09:02:41] <kyonko`> so they called the germans to pick up their dead, just bones really, and the germans were placing them in tiny wooden coffins
[09:02:45] <kyonko`> complete human adult skeletons
[09:02:48] <FatPhil> I have every reason to hate .ru propaganda, but on a lot of topics, it's less biased news than most of the rest
[09:03:00] <kyonko`> an average man could carry a bone coffin like a small child
[09:03:28] <kyonko`> so i guess its true, we really are water weight
[09:04:30] <kyonko`> bones are mostly water when alive
[09:04:42] <kyonko`> hydrated
[09:04:48] <kyonko`> hydrate minerals
[11:26:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AI Uses Timing and Weather Data to Accurately Predict Cardiac Arrest Risk - https://sylnt.us
[11:29:04] <chromas> All these AI stories are the same: Neural network trained to correlate inputs and outputs accurately predicts outputs for new inputs
[11:29:33] <chromas> Weather it's predicting whether, upscaling videogame graphics orgenerating new porns
[11:29:43] * chromas bah humbugs
[11:30:10] <chromas> I need an AI to correct the missing spaces on this keyboard
[11:53:21] <kyonko`> or the thing can just hammer all possibilities and run out of batteries/fuel
[11:53:43] <kyonko`> make it nucular powered
[11:54:49] <FatPhil> fusion powered - only a couple of decades away now!
[11:57:56] <kyonko`> make it mach 17
[11:58:06] <kyonko`> pay not mind to micrometeroids
[11:58:37] <kyonko`> the fuck is neural network supposed to mean anyway, insects have neural networks
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[12:23:47] <c0lo> Interesting, really
[12:23:53] <c0lo> #yt QRaACa1Mrd4
[12:24:11] <c0lo> ~yt QRaACa1Mrd4
[12:24:24] <FatPhil> are any bots still alive, or are they all pining for Buzz?
[12:24:56] <c0lo> systemd plays being alive
[12:25:14] <c0lo> https://www.youtube.com
[12:25:17] <systemd> ^ 03Why you DON'T want Perfect Pitch
[12:42:18] <FatPhil> As someone who's got a few anchor pieces from which I used to be able to make quick relative judgements, and thus appear to have almost perfect pitch, and being colourblind, all I can say is that the colour analogy is terrible.
[12:49:57] <chromas> Pronounced the "t" in "often". His opinions are invalid
[12:52:07] <c0lo> music racism https://www.youtube.com
[12:52:10] <systemd> ^ 03What is Your Musical IQ?
[13:21:15] <FatPhil> answered exactly the same as him in the first part apart from one where I heard literally no difference, and i'm not so sure he was really sure of his guess, so I don't feel too bad.
[13:23:53] <FatPhil> differed on a couple in the second one, but it's hard to know if I was right when he was wrong, as there were 3 options, and I can't be arsed to replay them.
[13:24:43] <FatPhil> Hahah - and in set 3, the beep ones, it's 1-0 to me presently :)
[13:29:11] <FatPhil> I got the final one right too, so I'm perfect! the off-beat ones didn't fool me either, unlike his comments, but he did get it right.
[13:29:48] <FatPhil> So this tells me I have a perfect sense of rhythm despite me knowing I have a terrible sense of rhythm. I suspect they're measuring the wrong thing.
[13:30:42] <FatPhil> I did spend a while as a stand-in conductor for the choir a few times, I can tell when things don't line up correctly with something metronomic, that's all.
[13:31:13] <FatPhil> And holy jesus do I get critical of conductors if I'm ever watching a concert!
[13:34:55] <FatPhil> I fully agree with all his criticisms, though.
[13:36:09] <FatPhil> As soon as I saw the title I knew I'd cringe.
[13:37:18] <FatPhil> But had to do it, obviously.
[13:42:16] <chromas> or you have a terrible sense of what you have a terrible sense of
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[13:56:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Aqueduct of Constantinople: Managing the Longest Water Channel of the Ancient World - https://sylnt.us
[14:19:36] <bacteria> coffee++
[14:19:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5556
[14:19:43] <bacteria> satan++
[14:19:43] <Bender> karma - satan: 24
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[15:44:11] <Runaway1956> https://txktoday.com
[15:44:11] <systemd> ^ 03DEA Raids Lansdell Family Clinics
[15:45:32] <Runaway1956> I have no knowledge of drug abuse or drug traffiking at Lansdell's - this just pisses me off
[15:46:10] <Runaway1956> Some rich Latino bastard shut our hospital down a few years back, now government wants to shut down the replacement
[15:52:19] <pinchy> !ud jiggaboo
[16:04:34] <Runaway1956> FatPhil - we preserved our ducks, and people actually ride in them
[16:04:48] <Runaway1956> https://www.tripadvisor.com
[16:04:51] <systemd> ^ 03National Park Duck Tours (Hot Springs) - 2021 All You Need to Know BEFORE You Go (with Photos) - Tripadvisor
[16:04:56] <Runaway1956> we don't ride our buffalo
[16:19:35] <c0lo> Jeez, FatPhil. I want to see you running naked above the train and *then* criticise conductors.
[16:19:49] <c0lo> 21/8 https://youtu.be
[16:19:52] <systemd> ^ 03What is the "Misty Chord?" | Q+A ( https://www.youtube.com )
[16:21:44] <c0lo> enough Neely for tonite, gotta get some sleep.
[16:27:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Weekend Hacking: Wireless Charging for a HP-25 Calculator - https://sylnt.us
[17:46:42] <FatPhil> you don't want to see me running naked anywhere!
[17:51:55] <halibut> This is oddly sensible: Apparently, a lot of Russian malware is authored to avoid installing on Russian computers. If you can make your computer look Russian, you might be able to protect yourself: https://krebsonsecurity.com
[17:51:56] <systemd> ^ 03Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate
[17:56:41] <AzumaHazuki> i was juuuuust about to submit that
[17:56:49] <AzumaHazuki> from the oi-pizdetz dept.
[17:59:48] <halibut> I haven't submitted it. Go for it.
[18:01:13] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://krebsonsecurity.com from the opa!...pizdetz! dept.
[18:01:17] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate" (26p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:11:06] <AzumaHazuki> and speaking of pizdetz https://www.newscientist.com
[18:11:07] <systemd> ^ 03Nuclear reactions at Chernobyl are spiking in an inaccessible chamber
[19:06:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - From Apes to Birds, there are 65 Animal Species that "Laugh" - https://sylnt.us - j/k
[21:23:10] <Fnord666> "One weird trick"... stupid clickbaity title
[21:23:51] <Sulla> they are fine on occasion for humor
[21:24:01] <Sulla> but any more than once a year is too much
[21:35:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Alcohol May Have Immediate Effect on Atrial Fibrillation Risk and Events - https://sylnt.us - I'll-not-drink-to-that!
[21:48:07] <FatPhil> I stand here as disproof of that theory.
[21:49:21] <FatPhil> OK, it might affect me when I'm 65, but in that case I'd say '50 years to kick in *ain't* "immediate"'
[21:49:56] <chromas> title doesn't say what that affect is
[21:50:44] <FatPhil> Could be "reduce", yup
[21:51:29] <FatPhil> but I shall slap you for your word choice anyway!
[21:51:30] <chromas> maybe it multiplies but your base value is 0
[21:52:15] <FatPhil> Nah, heart probs is one of my family's bigger box tickers.
[21:53:20] <FatPhil> males are hearts, females are cancer
[22:15:02] <AzumaHazuki> seems similar here...ugh, my mother just got a cancer diagnosis ><
[22:15:23] <AzumaHazuki> thankfully it's HER2- stage 1 breast cancer and all they need to do is snip it out and do some chemo, but thank goddess we caught it early
[22:21:21] <FatPhil> absolutely - but do make sure that there's adequate follow-up, so you can be sure it's gone gone.
[22:22:33] <FatPhil> I think the UK tracks you closely for about 5 years. Sis is past that now, so has just settled back into the generic regular scheduled tests.
[22:29:16] * AzumaHazuki nods
[22:29:46] <AzumaHazuki> this isn't her first rodeo with cancer either, so we're a bit on edge about that, but this isn't in the lymph nodes and doesn't appear to be a leftover from the first time
[22:31:48] <FatPhil> OK, that's (relatively) good.
[22:32:49] <FatPhil> Lost an aunt this year to the same cancer coming back a third time, a few years apart, where even the nuke-it-from-orbit option wasn't effective the first two times, so she did the stoic thing third time round.
[22:38:32] <AzumaHazuki> man...fuck cancer
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