#soylent | Logs for 2021-05-09
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[00:00:34] <kyonko`> whatever is going on in mars, they aren't interested in landing in the poles a rover
[00:00:44] <kyonko`> which means they have certainty like they had with the little boy atom bomb
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[00:01:26] <Runaway1956> What they haven't told you about that meteorite bacteria is, it created an account on SN IRC
[00:02:13] <Runaway1956> That's all the evidence I need that non-terrestrial life is intelligent
[00:02:28] <bacterium> this is how pentagon tracks the space-chunks: https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:02:29] <systemd> ^ 03United States Space Surveillance Network - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[00:02:30] * Runaway1956 doesn't say HOW intelligetn
[00:02:48] <kyonko`> thats ronny raygun's star wars
[00:03:06] <kyonko`> but after reagan, they stopped talking about it
[00:03:09] <bacterium> looks like it's mostly a combo of radar radar and visible light imaging
[00:03:14] <kyonko`> they defunded feynman's thinking machines
[00:03:28] <Runaway1956> That link ain't worth much - where's the link that allows me to move the antenna and focus them?
[00:03:32] <kyonko`> bacterium: but its BLACK OPS
[00:04:01] <kyonko`> black ops, black budget, a lot of panic over echelon in the 1990's
[00:04:16] <kyonko`> echelon became 5 eyes post 911
[00:04:53] <kyonko`> its literally that damn planetarium NTDG made his bones in, besides pinochet's chile
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[00:08:54] <Runaway1956> someone shook the box, and the cat fell out
[00:11:06] <kyonko`> the cat is neither alive or dead
[00:11:30] <Runaway1956> It's teeth glow in the dark though
[00:11:53] <kyonko`> I love trident and dentyne
[00:11:58] <kyonko`> and cherry coke
[00:12:02] <kyonko`> and flaming hot cheetos
[00:12:17] <kyonko`> for most of the 2000's I like like steve smith from american dad
[00:12:20] <kyonko`> fml
[00:13:10] * Runaway1956 idly wonders for a moment WTF is steve smith
[00:13:19] <Runaway1956> alright, I'm over that
[00:13:19] <kyonko`> WTF is stan smith
[00:13:48] <kyonko`> american dad is a 2000's cartoon about a cia agent who lives with a alien he stole from them
[00:14:20] <kyonko`> the alien looks a lot like kiff from futurama
[00:14:28] <Sulla> Well. Wanted to play Civ IV but its not working. I appear to have gone back in time to october of 05
[00:14:28] <kyonko`> also a 2000's thing
[00:15:01] <kyonko`> futurama was poplular when I still had windows 98 and a crt
[00:15:08] <bacterium> freeciv has hex map
[00:15:40] <Sulla> Nothing against Freeciv, its a good game. But Civ IV is the greatest game ever made
[00:15:44] * Runaway1956 can't figure out why freeciv lags so bad on his hardware
[00:16:05] <chromas> Runaway1956: turn off your compositor
[00:16:18] <Runaway1956> won't it decompose then?
[00:16:45] <chromas> it already did
[00:21:33] <kyonko`> it is now safe to turn off your computer.
[00:22:12] <bacterium> yeah iv is hella fun, and freeciv tiles are shite in comparison
[00:22:52] <kyonko`> https://1.bp.blogspot.com
[00:23:06] <bacterium> subsidising game dev via taxes would work pretty well imho on the condition the game must be free
[00:23:08] <Sulla> plus if i got the itch i'd just play civ I or II instead
[00:25:26] <Runaway1956> They make creams for those itches - and you can even get a shot in the ass
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[00:30:07] <kyonko`> yeah a shot because its time to put on your sweat suit
[00:30:20] <kyonko`> and stew in your own sweat
[00:30:59] <kyonko`> eventually your canteen will go dry
[00:31:04] <kyonko`> ordered to die!
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[00:37:52] <kyonko`> https://sites.google.com
[00:40:27] <bacterium> on the last upturn, it did not go above 200 km
[00:40:43] <bacterium> i think it peaked at like 165-ish
[00:40:56] <bacterium> also, it was flying sideways for a while
[00:41:06] <bacterium> going down again now
[00:41:23] <Sulla> ideally wouldn't you want it sideways coming through the atmosphere to burn up more?
[00:41:53] <bacterium> yeah i guess, though the pressure there is still astronomically low
[00:42:45] <Sulla> Well hopefully it drops in ocean
[00:44:25] <AzumaHazuki> last i heard they were thinking somewhere in the north atlantic...?
[00:45:24] <bacterium> i am holding my fingers crossed for xi's palace
[00:45:33] <Sulla> but then innocent chinese would die too
[00:49:39] <bacterium> hmmm what if they step out for a smoke or whatnot? then they'll survive and get to see the fireworks, and post them on chinese anti-social media
[00:51:22] <bacterium> the atitude is dropping precipitously, already almost 10 km delta compared to the last dip
[00:51:28] <kyonko`> https://tpc.googlesyndication.com
[01:05:56] <bacterium> new minimum is 137 km, down from 151.4 last orbit
[01:07:11] <kyonko`> who is tracking this thing?
[01:07:26] <kyonko`> or are they just guessing?
[01:07:32] <bacterium> darpa
[01:07:49] <bacterium> they track bits a few inches across
[01:08:00] <bacterium> this is like doing nothing to them
[01:09:22] <kyonko`> ok I believe that
[01:09:34] <kyonko`> but can they also find a human sacrificer in a mob?
[01:10:04] <Sulla> is Buenos Aires okay?
[01:11:06] <kyonko`> more like central america
[01:11:17] <kyonko`> but they had cannibals back in the 2000 financial crisis
[01:12:14] <kyonko`> bill gates was the man behind the scenes when everyone was distracted by 911
[01:12:27] <kyonko`> sure it was all balmer, right
[01:13:15] <kyonko`> bezos was just a book seller
[01:13:20] <kyonko`> right?
[01:13:54] <kyonko`> I'm sorry but you just don't build a hand made PC and throw it in the trash after 5 years
[01:14:35] <kyonko`> brick a bios? just flash a new one you dummy
[01:15:52] <kyonko`> why do I remember the 2000's like it was yesterday
[01:23:27] <Sulla> the tracker on yt stopped
[01:23:43] <kyonko`> its norad santa
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[01:35:46] <Sulla> so looks like danger zone is mid atlantic to israel?
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[01:37:27] <SoyCow6723> Pretty sure the high part of the orbit is currently in N hemisphere, thus ~Indian ocean next pass is likely?
[01:38:11] <Sulla> ah
[01:38:25] <Sulla> ty
[01:39:00] <SoyCow6723> Watch altitude -- is it going up now?
[01:39:31] <Sulla> 166.1
[01:39:34] <bacterium> last peak was sub-150, this thing is coming down!!!!
[01:40:01] <bacterium> huh tube tracker shows 137
[01:40:10] <Sulla> https://www.youtube.com
[01:40:12] <systemd> ^ 03Chinese Rocket Expected to Crash Into Earth
[01:40:13] <Sulla> who you watching
[01:40:28] <Sulla> one i got from sn froze so had to switch
[01:41:38] <bacterium> https://www.youtube.com
[01:41:39] <systemd> ^ 03LIVE : Tracking Out-of-control Chinese rocket debris
[01:41:45] <bacterium> weird they show diff alt
[01:43:16] <Sulla> wonder if there is a source we could use to determine which i saccurate
[01:43:31] <Bytram> Looks like things reset and the original link caught back up to now.
[01:44:06] <Bytram> 128.4 km and rising
[01:44:39] <Sulla> ideally wouldn't we want it o be falling right now to hit in the atlantic?
[01:44:54] <SoyCow6723> This one https://www.youtube.com just reset over Costa Rica, was paused the last few minutes
[01:44:56] <systemd> ^ 03Out of control China rocket falling to earth live tracking Long March 5B Rocket debris
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[01:45:38] <Sulla> still weird one is 170 and he other is 140
[01:46:08] <bacterium> they show the same pic, but yours has red overlay
[01:46:19] <bacterium> or like very similar pic
[01:46:44] <Bytram> same location over the globe?
[01:47:03] <bacterium> yup
[01:47:09] <bacterium> both show the same utc time
[01:47:34] <Bytram> but different altitudes? km vs miles ?
[01:47:38] <SoyCow6723> Mine shows altitude slowly increasing, so it's headed up to the apogee of the elliptical orbit now(??)
[01:48:34] <Bytram> 140.8 km and rising, cossing dominican republic heading NE
[01:49:16] <SoyCow6723> Drat, the next orbit will miss Mar-a-lago for sure<grin>
[01:50:12] <Bytram> whoops 142.2 km
[01:50:50] <SoyCow6723> now 143.0
[01:50:58] <Bytram> Bermuda triangle?!!!
[01:51:29] <SoyCow6723> Thumbs nose at Bermuda triangle, nyah, you didn't get me this time.
[01:51:35] <Bytram> well, Sargasso Sea
[01:52:17] <Sulla> Well, at least we now know the bermuda triangles effect have a max altitude
[01:53:21] <SoyCow6723> ?? bermuda triangles effect max altitude rises with ocean level ...
[01:53:41] <SoyCow6723> 144.3
[02:00:01] <SoyCow6723> 144.8
[02:00:42] <Bytram> 145 km / 90 mi
[02:01:46] <SoyCow6723> 144.3 over Portugal in a minute -- starting down...
[02:04:43] <SoyCow6723> Eye witness reports may appear on Twitter? #LongMarch5B
[02:05:29] <Sulla> i have no idea how twitter works
[02:06:38] <SoyCow6723> Neither do I !! But if you open a tab to https://twitter.com you will see a stream of top posts.
[02:06:39] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[02:07:13] <Sulla> ill wait for the highlights to get posted elsewhere
[02:07:24] <SoyCow6723> 140 Km approaching Greece
[02:08:16] <Bytram> SoyCow6723++ thanks for the play-by-play!
[02:08:16] <Bender> karma - soycow6723: 1
[02:09:54] <Sulla> headed for israel
[02:10:46] <Sulla> these youtube trackers are so different from eachother
[02:11:12] <Bytram> one has much better music
[02:11:19] <Bytram> =)
[02:11:41] <SoyCow6723> Agreed, the one I'm watching is consistent (now--it wasn't an hour ago), but who knows if it is based on data or a sim ?
[02:11:57] <bacterium> i am 4very unhappy, how do we know which stream is accurate? they don't even show the same location no more:
[02:12:06] <bacterium> https://www.youtube.com
[02:12:07] <systemd> ^ 03LIVE : Tracking Out-of-control Chinese rocket debris
[02:12:14] <bacterium> https://www.youtube.com
[02:12:16] <systemd> ^ 03Chinese Rocket Expected to Crash Into Earth
[02:12:25] <Sulla> first one is over saudi arabia, other one is just over israel
[02:12:48] <Sulla> i think the "chinese rocket expected.." is wrong because of the ads
[02:12:51] <bacterium> and the alt they show is totally different
[02:12:55] <SoyCow6723> https://www.youtube.com we can vote<grin> Saudia for miine
[02:12:57] <systemd> ^ 03Out of control China rocket falling to earth live tracking Long March 5B Rocket debris
[02:12:58] <bacterium> yeah lol ikr?
[02:13:58] <SoyCow6723> As usual, you get what you pay for!
[02:14:27] <SoyCow6723> Alt 131.5
[02:14:33] <Bytram> they put some TELs into a program, get projections, broadcast result. Dependent on how accurate/recent their data is affects their projections. GIGO
[02:14:44] <Bytram> =g TEL orbit
[02:14:45] <systemd> http://orbit-cs-usa.com - Locations and Contact Information - Orbit
[02:14:50] <Bytram> lol
[02:16:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hear the Sounds of NASA's Mars Ingenuity Helicopter Whirring in Flight - https://sylnt.us - whirrrrr
[02:19:22] <Sulla> Given the insane amount we give the government, they could at least give us a sweet ass tracker for this for people who are bored with nothing better to do
[02:20:06] <Bytram> I would not surprised if they DO have one... we just don't know where!
[02:20:50] <SoyCow6723> Try this wild Miles Davis for a sound track -- https://www.youtube.com
[02:20:52] <systemd> ^ 03Miles Davis / Agharta 1
[02:20:57] <Bytram> =g NASA live track Long March 5B
[02:20:58] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - Long March 5B Live Tracker - YouTube
[02:21:45] <Sulla> 149
[02:23:15] <Sulla> cant find a live feed from easa or jaxa
[02:23:26] <Sulla> so guess i'll go with nasa
[02:23:26] <Bytram> =g norad ID 48275 live
[02:23:26] <systemd> https://aerospace.org - CZ-5B Rocket Body (ID 48275) | The Aerospace Corporation
[02:23:46] <Bytram> =g norad ID 48275 live youtube
[02:23:46] <systemd> https://aerospace.org - CZ-5B Rocket Body (ID 48275) | The Aerospace Corporation
[02:23:52] <Bytram> =g norad ID 48275 live "youtube"
[02:23:53] <systemd> https://twitter.com - Andrew Jones (@AJ_FI) | Twitter
[02:24:43] <Bytram> my bad! TEL should have been TLE!
[02:25:50] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:25:51] <systemd> ^ 03Two-line element set - Wikipedia
[02:26:07] <Sulla> aerospace corp tweeted that it could have already reentered
[02:26:42] <Bytram> I'd believe that
[02:27:10] <Bytram> it's going something like 4 or 5 miles per second
[02:28:14] <SoyCow6723> There was a video posted 2 minutes ago here, https://twitter.com which shows something flashing (tumbling?)
[02:28:14] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[02:29:33] <Sulla> when it passes pearth will they be able to tell if its still there or not?
[02:30:54] <SoyCow6723> Big G says Perth WA, Australia Sunday 10:00 AM Partly cloudy
[02:30:55] <Bytram> Just send up some Dragons of Perth to take a look? ) /me hopes he remembered the title correctly)
[02:31:29] <Bytram> =g anne mccaffery Dragons of Perth
[02:31:30] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Dragonriders of Pern - Wikipedia
[02:31:57] <Sulla> I vaguely remember reading that as a kid
[02:38:11] <Sulla> nasa feed says 142
[02:39:08] <Sulla> saw picture from saudi arabia of it passing, so it is at least past there
[02:39:50] <Sulla> it was spotted over perth
[02:39:55] <Bytram> Subsentient: nasa feed?
[02:39:55] <Sulla> so still going
[02:40:23] <Bytram> do you have a link for NASA feed?
[02:40:57] <Sulla> https://www.youtube.com
[02:40:59] <Sulla> isnt it that?
[02:40:59] <systemd> ^ 03Long March 5B Live Tracker
[02:41:18] <Sulla> oh guess not
[02:41:25] <Sulla> i thought it said nasa when you linkd it earlier
[02:41:34] <Bytram> nope
[02:44:43] <Sulla> hopefully someone will see it as it crsses nz
[02:44:50] <Bytram> my guess is that the temporary dropouts we saw at https://www.youtube.com were a result of their getting new data (TLEs) and updating their feed.
[02:44:51] <systemd> ^ 03LIVE : Tracking Out-of-control Chinese rocket debris
[02:47:17] <SoyCow6723> Google weather = Wellington, New Zealand Sunday 2:00 PM Haze (80% chance rain)
[02:54:46] <Sulla> guess ill grab a laptop and move to the truck and smoke. seein gas we wont learn much while its over the pacific anyways
[02:55:57] <Sulla> +
[03:10:54] <SoyCow6723> Sage comment from Twitter? > Hedder @hedder902 · 3m[inutes ago] Didn't die from the #LongMarch5B reentry. Guess I have to go to work tomorrow. #FML
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[03:21:15] <Sulla2> Any updates?
[03:21:31] <Sulla2> Also, i cant get web client to work on laptop or desktop
[03:23:40] <SoyCow6723> Twitter feeds repeating re-entry near Maldives, Indian Ocean -- but nothing like a solid confirmation.
[03:23:54] <bacterium> yeah that's china's opinion
[03:24:24] <Sulla2> others on twitter claimed to see it passing perth
[03:24:32] <Sulla2> So trust random twitter randos or CCP
[03:26:53] <Sulla2> how long til they claim it was controlled and planned to drop there all along?
[03:28:26] <Sulla2> fun opinion article by editor in chief at global times
[03:28:28] <Sulla2> https://www.globaltimes.cn
[03:28:41] <systemd> ^ 03China needs to make a plan to deter extreme forces of Australia
[03:29:02] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[03:29:04] <systemd> ^ 03Out of control China rocket falling to earth live tracking Long March 5B Rocket debris
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[03:30:34] <Bytram> "China is now reporting that the rocket reentered at 02:24 UTC as 72.47E 2.65N which is right over the Maldives"
[03:31:25] <SoyCow6723> USA tracking by Space Force https://twitter.com But, based on previous posts to that link it may be several days before they comment on this reentry.
[03:31:26] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[03:44:09] <Sulla2> boru around?
[03:45:56] <bacterium> wait, so where is it now?
[03:46:01] <bacterium> wait, so where is it now?
[03:46:23] <bacterium> s/.*//
[03:46:23] <SedBot> <bacterium>
[03:46:37] <Sulla2> all we know is china said it already crashed
[03:47:43] <Sulla2> https://www.globaltimes.cn from CCP prop site
[03:47:44] <systemd> ^ 03Remnants of Long March 5B reenter atmosphere: China space agency
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[04:01:59] <Bytram> https://www.cnn.com
[04:02:02] <systemd> ^ 03China rocket has reentered the Earth's atmosphere, China's space agency says
[04:16:21] <Bytram> Thanks everybody -- was nice to watch the rocket booster return with friends!
[04:16:49] <Bytram> Updated story should appear soon on the main page.
[04:17:22] <Bytram> laters
[04:25:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chinese Booster Rocket Crashing Down to Earth [UPDATES 2] - https://sylnt.us - what-goes-up-must-come-down
[04:39:22] <SoyCow6723> Watchng the altutude rise and fall was fun...until I realized that it was all a simulation/projection (with possible corrections from radar data?) At that point I lost interest in the data on YouTube feeds.
[04:39:29] <SoyCow6723> G'night all.
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[05:34:26] <FatPhil> I woke unnaturally early, but I don't think it's because an alien spacecraft crashed right up my behind.
[05:34:53] <FatPhil> A close encounter of the thirty-second kind, for those keeping count.
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[06:01:11] <FatPhil> Oh shiiiiiit! Someone's wrong on the internet!
[06:39:02] <FatPhil> "Elon Musk is set to appear on SNL on Saturday night and pitch the "joke" crypto, Dogecoin"
[06:57:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Colonial Pipeline Co. Hit by "Cybersecurity Attack" - https://sylnt.us
[07:36:05] * FatPhil flings poo at baboons who think they're alpha...
[07:39:49] <chromas> betaboons?
[07:47:38] <FatPhil> probably ugammatans
[08:05:13] <kyonko`> I'm a bare chest baboon
[08:26:14] <FatPhil> Fuck me, it's a beautiful day, and the brewpub's open again. This can mean only one thing - I think I need to do some "quality control".
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[10:00:45] <chromas> FatPhil: Don't forget to octuple-mask
[10:00:59] <chromas> Don't take it off to drink...use a straw
[10:31:40] <c0lo> chromas, so you sent me after wild stem cat chase, eh?
[10:32:30] <c0lo> And the story with the sheela with wide pussy is no longer, cultural as it was.
[10:36:15] <c0lo> =submit its-all-milk-spilled-under-the-bridge-now https://www.globaltimes.cn
[10:36:19] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08China to Regulate Irrational Idol-supporting Behaviors After Hit Variety Show Caused Large Amount of" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:41:13] <c0lo> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
[10:41:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03About 90 Palestinians Injured in Israeli Crackdown in Jerusalem" (68p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:42:30] <c0lo> =submit https://www.bbc.com
[10:42:32] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Report: China Emissions Exceed All Developed Nations Combined" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:44:23] <c0lo> =submit https://www.rawstory.com
[10:44:25] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Liz Cheney Secretly Organized Key Move to Block Trump From Using Military to Overturn Election: Repo" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:46:03] <c0lo> =submit https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com
[10:46:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Covid-sparked Fungal Infection Assuming Epidemic Proportions" (3p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:49:00] <c0lo> =submit cuba-libre https://orinocotribune.com
[10:49:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Cuba Migrating to Open Source Platforms" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:50:02] <c0lo> =submit https://www.france24.com
[10:50:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Evidence of Nine Neanderthals Found in Italian Cave - France 24" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:52:38] <c0lo> =submit https://www.kob.com
[10:52:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Johnson Calls for UK Talks After Scottish Nationalists Win" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[11:46:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google 'Arguably Violated' Labor Law When it Fired Employees Involved in Unionizing, Says NLRB Chief - https://sylnt.us
[11:46:48] <FatPhil> "Oh, no, they didn't"!
[11:47:27] <FatPhil> provably "arguable".
[12:40:24] <c0lo> The fuck??? https://twitter.com (video clip)
[12:40:24] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
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[12:52:45] <c0lo> Did SNL with Muskie came to pass?
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[13:17:36] <Bytram> http://feeds.mashable.com
[13:17:37] <systemd> ^ 03'SNL' hilariously captures all of our first post-quarantine parties ( https://mashable.com )
[13:17:58] <Bytram> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[13:18:02] <systemd> ^ 03Elon Musk reveals he has Asperger's on Saturday Night Live
[13:18:22] <Bytram> http://feeds.mashable.com
[13:18:23] <systemd> ^ 03Elon Musk's 'SNL' monologue is, if nothing else, an accurate portrait of Elon Musk ( https://mashable.com )
[13:18:52] <Bytram> =yt SNL Elon Musk
[13:18:53] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Elon Musk Monologue - SNL (05:36; 1,259,454 views; 👍52,633 👎3,447)
[13:19:07] <Bytram> =yt SNL Elon Musk -monologue
[13:19:08] <systemd> https://youtube.com - SNL host Elon Musk Cold Open 5/8/21 | SNL Elon Musk the ploy of taking an take down a powerful gang (04:22; 20,187 views; 👍636 👎28)
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[13:32:38] <drussell> Seriously? There hasn't been anyone on, anytime in the past 12h with the credentials necessary to remove the goatse spam?
[13:44:50] <FatPhil> link?
[13:51:58] <drussell> On the Ingenuity mars helicoper sound topic... It was posted there like 8 times right after the story went live
[13:54:36] <drussell> Comment IDs 1147684, 1147685, 1147688, 1147690, 1147691, 1147692, 1147693, 1147694, 1147695, 1147696
[13:54:47] <drussell> I guess it was 10 times...
[14:02:48] <AzumaHazuki> drussell, the admins don't give a shit any longer
[14:02:56] <AzumaHazuki> Spam mod the relevant posts, it's all we can do
[14:05:16] <drussell> They already have like 5 SPAM mods on them...
[14:05:31] <FatPhil> I see plenty of spam mods on them, so there's no reason to click on them
[14:06:47] <AzumaHazuki> well, drussell, the admin team has made it clear as day they don't give a shit
[14:07:33] <drussell> Defacing the site is not free speech, especially as an AC.
[14:07:51] <drussell> There is an easy solution to all this bullshit...
[14:08:31] <drussell> Create a new slash "Topic" called "Deleted Posts", make nothing that goes in there be shown on the main page, you have to go to the topic.
[14:08:50] <FatPhil> I don't appear to have perms to modban the upmodding accounts, alas.
[14:09:01] <drussell> Every time a post is removed (others will call it CENSORED or CANCELLED), it gets moved into the Deleted Posts topic as a new story.
[14:09:43] <drussell> People can shitpost all they want in there on each aned every "Censored" post. Problem solved. Obvious shit like this GOATSE just gets moved into there.
[14:10:11] <drussell> Nothing deleted, just moved. Transparent "censordship".
[14:10:16] <FatPhil> Not a bad idea. They don't even have to be separate stories. If it's a dustbin, it's one big dustbin.
[14:10:22] <drussell> "censorship"
[14:11:23] <drussell> I have said this before. I still don't understand why it hasn't been implemented here. I believe slash has pretty much all the necessary bits already...
[14:11:59] <FatPhil> it has too many bells and whistles already, i don't even know what half of the features are.
[14:14:24] <drussell> It can't be that difficult to set up a way to move a comment to a different topic... and I'm sure there must be a way to have certain topics not show up on the main page, so you have to actually go to the topic.
[14:15:06] <drussell> I'm sure it's a rather simple thing to implement, although I don't have a slash install set up here to play with myself... so I am really only speculating
[14:16:16] <AzumaHazuki> drussell, it hasn't been implemented because SN runs on a petulant four year old's idea of what "free speech" actually means
[14:16:29] <AzumaHazuki> and since "tragedy of the commons" has too many syllables in it for Buzztard and friends...
[14:17:20] <drussell> Correct, which is why those of us that realize that need to calmy, rationally push for the necessary changes in management sanity safety culture... :)
[14:17:39] <FatPhil> Do you consider "Buzztard" to be appropriate for civil discourse?
[14:18:10] <drussell> I read your rant from the other day and while I essentially agree with you in principle, I believe you're essentially "jumping the gun" a bit on some aspects and intensity...
[14:18:54] <drussell> No, see that's just it... Why some people seem unable to have rational discourse and discussion.... (facepalm)
[14:19:48] <AzumaHazuki> FatPhil: i consider it a lot politer than what's deserved. i also consider that the kind of person who pounds on "civility' over content had best be wearing an asbestos shroud when he dies
[14:21:03] <FatPhil> Did "Buzztard" have any content? Careful how you answer, it might be that both 'yes' and 'no' are the wrong answer.
[14:22:06] <drussell> I certainly rarely agree with TMB's political views, but the whole world is having a bit of hissy fit right now and that is going to be reflected in comments on SN. This seems particularly severe in places like the US where it seems like things like facts and thinking logically and rationally are not universal
[14:22:38] <FatPhil> Very much agree.
[14:25:41] <drussell> Even though I disagree with many of the strongly expressed (and sometimes very strange) opinions that come out of some factions in the US, I find it extremely informative and enlightening to hear even the "crazy" views that some people espouse, since THIS IS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THERE are hearing and thinking! (no matter hor irrational it may seem to those of us in the rest of the world!!!)
[14:26:12] <drussell> Some of it is downright delusionally scary !
[14:26:28] <drussell> ... but I want to know what they're thinking!
[14:28:12] <AzumaHazuki> they're not. it's not thinking anymore, it's pure emotivism
[14:28:27] <drussell> For many people, I'm sure that is true.
[14:28:29] <AzumaHazuki> their swollen amygdalae are in the drivers' seat
[14:28:39] <drussell> Indeed.
[14:28:49] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: I apologize for going to a funeral for my aunt yesterday and being out of sorts and having not gotten to much more than going through the motions this morning. Please rethink your conclusion that "the admin team has made it clear as day they don't give a shit".
[14:29:08] <drussell> And many of the people stuck in nonsense seem to be otherwise intelligent people. It is very strange.
[14:29:15] <AzumaHazuki> that wasn't directed specifically at you, Bytram
[14:29:52] <FatPhil> =g mick west escaping the rabbit hole
[14:29:53] <systemd> https://www.amazon.com - Escaping the Rabbit Hole: How to Debunk Conspiracy ... - Amazon.com
[14:30:32] <Bytram> I am part of the admin team and the wording made no exception. I would appreciate an apology.
[14:30:55] <AzumaHazuki> then i'd appreciate the forum having some actual community standards and getting rid of the worst shitposters
[14:31:02] <Bytram> I am off to take a look at spam mods
[14:32:13] <Bytram> I see 10 comments moderated as spam
[14:32:27] <FatPhil> up to 5 times!
[14:32:32] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: I am waiting for your apology.
[14:32:57] <AzumaHazuki> what good is pulling rank going to do? i won't mean it.
[14:33:01] <bacterium> coffee++
[14:33:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5550
[14:33:28] <FatPhil> In that case, how are you better than the shitposters?
[14:33:36] <AzumaHazuki> because i'm not a shitposter
[14:33:39] <AzumaHazuki> what the fuck
[14:33:55] <FatPhil> Why do you like to dump on Bytram? And me, for that matter, as I have limited admin caps.
[14:34:14] <AzumaHazuki> well, why do you like to torture small animals and eat them alive?
[14:34:23] <drussell> You could be a tad more diplomatic, at least occasionally, though, Azuma... :)
[14:34:26] <AzumaHazuki> (answer: you don't. that's a strawman and so is what you said)
[14:34:31] <FatPhil> It's not.
[14:34:44] <AzumaHazuki> ...you DO torture small animals and eat them alive? holy shit
[14:34:48] <FatPhil> I just saw you shit on Bytram and me. With no regrets.
[14:35:04] <FatPhil> Now you're just being immature.
[14:35:05] <Bytram> ^^^
[14:35:14] <AzumaHazuki> my observation is that the admin team does not put effective measures in place to curb bad behavior and likely never will
[14:35:24] <AzumaHazuki> if you take that as being shit on, you know what to do
[14:35:51] <AzumaHazuki> and it's good news that you do, because that means your consciences are working and you know there's a problem
[14:37:07] <FatPhil> It's a large and fragile code base written by not us. Significant code changes carry quite high risk.
[14:37:44] <AzumaHazuki> i've already offered simple solutions: ACs default to -1/hidden, allow posts like Eth's constant race-baiting to be Spam modded, etc
[14:37:48] <AzumaHazuki> this is not difficult.
[14:38:12] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: So, pray tell, how to do so w/p somebody setting themselves up as Grand Arbiter and wielding bans at will?
[14:38:29] <Bytram> Think long about your own posting history and how others might be tempted to wield that power.
[14:38:36] <FatPhil> At the moment, I do think it should be possible to deal with the current noise just with the dials and knobs that we have available.
[14:38:38] <Bytram> You have 5 minutes to apologize for your attack.
[14:38:47] <AzumaHazuki> explain to me the link between "set ACs to -1" and "hurr hurr censorship"
[14:38:47] <Bytram> FatPhil: correct
[14:38:57] <AzumaHazuki> LOL, okay, I'm sorry for my attack :)
[14:39:06] <FatPhil> You can already set ACs to -1
[14:39:35] <AzumaHazuki> FatPhil, the point is, too much of AC is spam or shitposting. my proposal is to reduce the exposure. this also incentivizes people to make accounts
[14:39:36] <FatPhil> You can foe Eth, and -6 his posts.
[14:39:42] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: that seemed just as hearfelt as your attack!
[14:39:49] <AzumaHazuki> maybe it was :)
[14:39:54] <Bytram> I can't chaqt and attend to spam.
[14:39:57] <Bytram> biab
[14:40:17] * AzumaHazuki goes riffling through a certain PM log she got from a certain someone...
[14:40:28] <bacterium> i am just curious, what would happen if 5 minutes elapsed without a (token?) apology?
[14:40:35] <AzumaHazuki> lol, i'd be banned of course
[14:40:41] <AzumaHazuki> what do you think?
[14:40:54] <bacterium> i dunno lol that's why i axed
[14:41:08] <AzumaHazuki> it appears that he who fights monsters has forgotten Nietsche's pertinent line :D
[14:41:21] <AzumaHazuki> tragic. utterly predictable but tragic nonetheless
[14:41:23] <FatPhil> then stop fighting monsters
[14:41:35] <AzumaHazuki> "he who fights monsters"
[14:41:42] <AzumaHazuki> i'm missing a few qualifiers there
[14:42:10] <FatPhil> "he"'s has a gender neutral usage for centuries.
[14:42:23] <AzumaHazuki> yeah? call your mom a man and see what happens
[14:42:34] <bacterium> being a girl, i don't think nietsche was addressing any of his word salad to you in particular AzumaHazuki :)
[14:42:47] <bacterium> you being a girl i mean
[14:42:51] <AzumaHazuki> he wasn't, but i do this thing called reading
[14:45:36] <bacterium> why did snl let the anti-clown elon musk do a monologue?
[14:47:30] <bacterium> and who paid who as a result?
[14:50:14] <AzumaHazuki> does it even matter? you are witnessing societal collapse in slow motion from the inside
[14:50:21] <FatPhil> and was he paid in dogecoin?
[14:52:50] <FatPhil> I presume SNL just view Elon as super-cool right now, so wanted his supposed cred to rub off on them?
[14:54:16] <FatPhil> I'm not as anti-Elon as I play on the internet, but the pro-Elon nonsense is just too silly to not contradict.
[15:09:54] <Bytram> .op
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[15:13:34] <AzumaHazuki> shower time
[15:13:40] <AzumaHazuki> feels weird to have a day schedule now
[15:17:33] <Bytram> PASTE-BEGIN
[15:17:42] <Bytram> mysql> SELECT DISTINCT cid, substr(subject, 1, 80) FROM comments WHERE date >= '2021-05-09' AND ( subject LIKE '%g%o%a%t%' OR subject LIKE '%apk%' ) ORDER BY cid ;
[15:17:42] <Bytram> +---------+----------------------------------------------------+
[15:17:42] <Bytram> | cid | substr(subject, 1, 80) |
[15:17:42] <Bytram> +---------+----------------------------------------------------+
[15:17:42] <Bytram> | 1147684 | FUCK THIS SITE... apk |
[15:17:44] <Bytram> | 1147685 | SHUT THIS WORTHLESS SITE DOWN... apk |
[15:17:46] <Bytram> | 1147688 | THE MIGHTY BUZZARD CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF... apk |
[15:17:48] <Bytram> | 1147690 | EAT SHIT MARTYB... apk |
[15:17:50] <Bytram> | 1147691 | I FUCKING HATE ALL OF YOU ASSHOLES... apk |
[15:17:52] <Bytram> | 1147692 | STOP THE CENSORSHIP YOU BASTARDS... apk |
[15:17:54] <Bytram> | 1147693 | NCOMMANDER IS A BIG CRYBABY... apk |
[15:17:55] <Bytram> | 1147694 | GO BACK TO SLASHDOT YOU BIG BABIES... apk |
[15:17:58] <Bytram> | 1147695 | YOUR LAMENESS FILTERS & MODBANS ARE USELESS... apk |
[15:18:02] <Bytram> | 1147696 | STOP THE TRACKING & CENSORSHIP YOU ASSHOLES... apk |
[15:18:03] <Bytram> | 1147698 | Re:FUCK THIS SITE... apk |
[15:18:06] <Bytram> | 1147700 | Re:FUCK THIS SITE... apk |
[15:18:08] <Bytram> | 1147716 | Re:Let's start with unambiguous date expressions |
[15:18:10] <Bytram> | 1147726 | Re:FUCK THIS SITE... apk |
[15:18:12] <Bytram> | 1147732 | Re:Let's start with unambiguous date expressions |
[15:18:14] <Bytram> | 1147734 | Re:FUCK THIS SITE... apk |
[15:18:16] <Bytram> | 1147735 | Re:FUCK THIS SITE... apk |
[15:18:18] <Bytram> | 1147755 | Re:FUCK THIS SITE... apk |
[15:18:20] <Bytram> | 1147761 | Re:FUCK THIS SITE... apk |
[15:18:22] <Bytram> +---------+----------------------------------------------------+
[15:18:24] <Bytram> 19 rows in set (0.00 sec)
[15:18:25] <Bytram> mysql>
[15:18:27] <Bytram> PASTE-END
[15:19:15] <FatPhil> g%o%a%t are red herrings
[15:20:26] <Bytram> SIDs: 43472, 43416,
[16:25:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Insurer AXA Halts Ransomware Crime Reimbursement in France - https://sylnt.us - the-beginning-of-the-end-of-lax-security?
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[21:06:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Reaches Tenth Flight of a Falcon 9 Booster - https://sylnt.us - lather-rinse-repeat
[21:40:42] * FatPhil just invented a rather silly snooker-themed card game.
[21:41:11] <FatPhil> And I think it can be turned into a drinking game too, so that's basically all you need.
[21:55:21] <drussell> Is anything really a game if you can't turn it into a drinking version? :)
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[23:07:31] <AzumaHazuki> the instant pot is a lifesaver for budget cooking. it's almost cheating, what it does with dry beans
[23:16:54] <c0lo> Like, keeping in all the goodness that gives you farts? That's not cheating.
[23:22:39] <Sulla> have not yet tried dry beans in instant pot
[23:30:24] <halibut> If you put instant oatmeal in an instant pot, do you go back in time?
[23:31:14] <halibut> ... or do you just immediately end up with an instant pot that needs cleaning?
[23:34:34] <c0lo> #include <stdonion> // Colorado, 6 killed 1 suicide
[23:34:48] <AzumaHazuki> fuckin' A, again?
[23:37:49] <kyonko`> my cat is shedding
[23:46:41] <c0lo> =submit https://www.thecherawchronicle.com
[23:46:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Now Microplastics Have Also Been Discovered in Europe's Largest Ice Sheet" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:47:57] <AzumaHazuki> you have a cat? :3
[23:48:14] <AzumaHazuki> ahhh, someday i want one...i'll go get a black cat from the shelter no one wants because they're stupid about that