#soylent | Logs for 2021-05-07
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[00:02:25] <kyonko`> https://soylentnews.org
[00:02:26] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Technician for Water Company Linked to Liver Failure Says his Dog Got Liver Illness ( https://soylentnews.org )
[00:02:54] <Bytram> https://www.n2yo.com
[00:02:58] <systemd> ^ 03Real time satellite tracking for: CZ-5B R/B
[00:06:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Building Like In The Middle Ages - https://sylnt.us
[00:06:20] <kyonko`> ugh that is one massive falling bullet
[00:06:28] <kyonko`> comet size hail
[00:06:42] <kyonko`> had to be chinpokoman caused
[00:08:45] <Sulla> Where is the estimated landing? in the pacific?
[00:08:56] <kyonko`> specifically where in the pacific?
[00:09:27] <Sulla> preferably in the water?
[00:09:35] <kyonko`> rockets don't go straight up, although they could, it would be inefficient
[00:10:17] <kyonko`> you would think amateur rocketry would be at a state that they could send a rocket straight up into space and take some video before it re-enters
[00:10:28] <Sulla> More of assumed the chinese rocket would fall in the pacific due to the amount of the earth it makes up
[00:10:40] <Bytram> Sulla: we don't know yet
[00:11:18] <kyonko`> why are they pimping the falling bullet scenario? wasn't this always predicted in the space shuttle launches?
[00:11:38] <Sulla> Because its a happening, and happenings are fun to HYPE
[00:11:46] <kyonko`> more or less the solid rocket boosters and the main fuel tank would be jettisoned and fall in the same place, most of the time
[00:11:54] <Bytram> chromas: progo: s/daylight savings time/daylight saving time/
[00:12:11] <kyonko`> the main fuel tank of the space shuttle always got damaged on splash down
[00:12:11] <chromas> that doesn't work for me
[00:12:41] <Sulla> https://media1.tenor.com
[00:12:49] <Sulla> get in the happening bunker before the rocket falls
[00:13:15] <kyonko`> everything falls back to earth, its just trying to reach the core
[00:14:02] <kyonko`> a long time ago I saw the re-entry of the tychonauts on cctv, their space capsule was taken for quite a ride when the wind snagged the parachute
[00:14:16] <kyonko`> literally dragged across the gobe
[00:14:20] <Sulla> interesting
[00:14:27] <kyonko`> yeah i wonder if that video is still around
[00:14:29] <kyonko`> the crew came out ok
[00:14:31] <Bytram> gobe desert?
[00:14:37] <Bytram> ;)
[00:14:44] <Sulla> how long til reentry, or that also not known
[00:15:24] <kyonko`> the chinese have also put up a few space stations, but they don't allow non-chinese to go with them
[00:15:32] <kyonko`> it never makes western media
[00:17:26] <kyonko`> the chinese should technically be involved in the ISS, but aren't
[00:17:38] <kyonko`> they are part of the UN security council as victors of ww2
[00:18:46] <Bytram> Sulla: AFAIK, the booster is tumbling as well as in a elliptical orbit, so how much is gets slowed by each low orbit is uncertain making predictions... problematic.
[00:19:14] <kyonko`> so literraly its a bullet shot out of a smooth bore barrel
[00:19:35] <kyonko`> not efficient, but still bad for who ever or what ever is in the way
[00:19:57] <kyonko`> Bytram: you think the chinpokomans don't do "the new math"
[00:20:32] <Bytram> dunno who/what you are talking about
[00:20:45] <kyonko`> evil death
[00:21:10] <kyonko`> I think this schtick is just more media bull to drum the war with china
[00:21:12] <Bytram> also, I'm trying to get focused enough to stop procrastinating and push out some stories
[00:22:23] <kyonko`> its like the whole thing with humans and nuclear energy, so we're really going to fuck with forces outside the universe now?
[01:16:15] <Bytram> Looks like I am blocked from loading an Instagram page without creating an acct atm?! (I'm using Firefox on Ubuntu Mate) Can anybody load: https://www.instagram.com
[01:16:17] <systemd> ^ 03Amy Allen (@amyallen) • Instagram photos and videos
[01:16:39] <Bytram> (Besides systemd)
[01:21:53] <kyonko`> makes me wanna login
[01:24:58] <kyonko`> cant you get systemd to browse it for you?
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[01:54:12] <chromas> It does fire a login popup when clicking an image though
[01:56:14] <kyonko`> ...
[02:13:38] <Sulla> I dont think the media needs to bother stoking the war with china drumb
[02:13:55] <Sulla> nothing will happen til they make a move on taiwan or japan's islands
[02:14:50] <Sulla> And even then its a whole lot easier to just let them put another 23 million behind the iron curtain than it is to throw half of our navy and airforce away to neutralize China's.
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[02:20:12] <kyonko`> that doesn't make sense
[02:20:18] <kyonko`> in june they will anounce E.T.
[02:21:26] <kyonko`> biden will never announce the end of lock down which began back in march of 2020 as 15 days to flatten to the curve
[02:22:44] <kyonko`> where do UFO's come from.... outside the solar system? the nearest star? how far away exactly are the stars at night if they can be seen, why are they not yellow like the sun
[02:23:17] <kyonko`> biden won't announce end of lock down, and people will still go ape and prehistoric with their behavior
[02:24:52] <kyonko`> if ET and UFO's exist, why haven't we uh.... stopped disease
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[02:37:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Backs Waiving Patent Protections for Covid Vaccines, Citing Global Health Crisis - https://sylnt.us
[02:43:21] <Bytram> Strange. Tried to re-load ( https://soylentnews.org ) on my mobile phone -- came up with no CSS. About 15-20 minutes ago.
[02:43:22] <systemd> ^ 03Building Like In The Middle Ages - SoylentNews
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[03:52:32] <chromas> https://local.theonion.com
[03:52:33] <systemd> ^ 03Area Grandma Enjoys Flourishing Correspondence With Mailer-Daemon
[04:33:49] <Bytram> =yt devil went down to georgia
[04:33:50] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Devil Went Down to Georgia (03:35; 28,505,890 views; 👍285,253 👎8,089)
[05:15:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Edge for Linux Is Closer To Stable Release - https://sylnt.us - linux-users-everywhere-rejoice!-not-all-at-once
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[07:10:25] <c0lo> =submit https://abcnews.go.com
[07:10:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Children Make Up 26% of New COVID-19 Cases in Colorado" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:12:43] <c0lo> ^^^ "So far, 847 people between the ages of 0 to 19 in Colorado have been hospitalized and 13 have died since the start of the pandemic through April 29,"
[07:46:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Qualcomm Vulnerability Impacts Nearly 40% of All Mobile Phones - https://sylnt.us
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[08:59:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Feds Can Access the Private Data on Your Phone Through Your Car" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[10:08:46] <FatPhil> Anyone have a camera with a rectilinear wide-angle lens?
[10:10:52] <kyonko`> why would I have something like that?
[10:16:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chinese Booster Rocket Crashing Down to Earth - https://sylnt.us - what-goes-up-must-come-down
[10:19:19] <kyonko`> its hitting things on the way down?
[10:51:02] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[10:51:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NY: Broadband Cos Paid for 8.5M Fake Net Neutrality Comments" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:59:10] <c0lo> =submit https://kjzz.com
[10:59:13] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Utah Supreme Court Rules Transgender People Can Change Name, Gender on Birth Certificates" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:59:17] <FatPhil> I suspect SN members own wide-angle lenses in a higher proportion than the average population, just guessing.
[11:01:23] <c0lo> =yt RxOBOhRECoo
[11:01:23] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Elvis Presley - Suspicious Minds (Audio) (04:34; 60,165,654 views; 👍330,405 👎14,709)
[11:02:57] <c0lo> https://www.commondreams.org
[11:03:00] <systemd> ^ 03'Let's Do Insulin Next,' Says Ocasio-Cortez After Biden Backs IP Waiver to Boost Covid-19 Vaccine Access
[11:04:31] <c0lo> =submit https://slate.com
[11:04:34] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Republican Governors are Now Cutting Off Unemployment Benefits to Force People Back to Work" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:07:27] <c0lo> =submit https://www.wsws.org
[11:07:29] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Defend Julian Assange, Jailed for Exposing the Crimes of American and World Imperialism" (44p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:09:30] <c0lo> =submit https://www.imore.com
[11:09:32] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "0396% of iPhone Users Have Opted Out of App Tracking Since iOS 14.5 Launched" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[13:07:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Disqus Facing $3M Fine in Norway for Tracking Users Without Consent - https://sylnt.us - gotta-read-the-fine-print
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[14:23:05] <progo> Disqus was a major pioneer in making regular story pages javascript-laden battery eaters, right?
[14:24:09] <progo> not just "use javascript to include a remote form", but I think it really was a javascript mega-program monster
[14:57:49] <FatPhil> everything's an "app"
[14:58:46] <FatPhil> you can tell this by the "you must enable javascript to use this app" barf messages on half of the internet nowadays.
[15:46:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Belgium's Government Network Goes Down After Massive DDoS Attack - https://sylnt.us
[16:08:13] <chromas> Watching Wargames: The Dead Code on the YouTubes. Pretty cringeworthy so far
[16:13:56] <Ingar> curfew will be lifted at midnight \o/
[16:14:03] <Ingar> it is about fucking time
[16:14:40] <chromas> curfew? how old do They™ think you are?
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[16:16:58] <FatPhil> curfew never made any sense ever, anywhere.
[16:17:17] <chromas> Get to bed for the covidots come out to play
[16:17:33] <FatPhil> it introduces bottlenecks that increase the risk of the thing you're tring to protect against.
[16:17:56] <chromas> like closing all but one door at walmart, so everyone has to cum in together
[16:18:13] <FatPhil> right now
[16:19:01] <Sulla> Why did Michigan fail so hard at controlling covid
[16:19:37] <chromas> didn't want to break their failure streak
[16:19:56] <FatPhil> thank god for mississippi
[16:23:31] <FatPhil> I don't know if I said it on chan here at the time, but in early march the first thing that went through my mind when everyone loonie left was saying "texas are idiots" was "they're shit scared texas is right".
[16:24:43] <FatPhil> and, 7ish weeks later, it seems that their maths was right.
[16:25:08] <Ingar> I remember the first monday of march 2019, everybody returning from the ski resorts after spring vacation, schools reopening. I said "give it two weeks"
[16:25:10] <FatPhil> not sure what maths michigan was doing
[16:25:13] <Ingar> it didn't even take two weeks
[16:25:34] <FatPhil> we had sweden ski trips.. ditto
[16:26:11] <Ingar> last week of feb is spring vacation here, ppl go ski in france or switserland
[16:26:21] <Ingar> (or austria)
[16:26:52] <Ingar> personally, I prefer observing snow from behind a window
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[16:27:46] <FatPhil> Yllas/Levi/Sodankyla in .fi and gd-knows-where-borg in .se are our favourite skiwanker destinations.
[16:28:50] <Ingar> the Alps are basicly one large ski resort
[16:29:44] <FatPhil> yeah, we're poor wankers, can't afford that level of wankery.
[16:31:06] <FatPhil> we can't even afford the free hot brandy you get at the bottom of the run.
[16:33:51] <Sulla> dunno if texas was right or if texas was lucky, just like you dont know if oregon was right or if oregon was lucky
[16:33:57] <FatPhil> we did once have a stop in Zurich, and I will tell you this right from the heart - .ch looks mindblowingly stunningly beautiful. I do intend to visit there again.
[16:34:10] <chromas> when is oregon ever right though?
[16:35:14] <Sulla> There was a time when we had the best community college in the country, that ws pretty correct. but then they decided to get rid of logging and our school system became shit because that was the revenue
[16:35:14] <FatPhil> they did publish the numerical inputs they were using to justify their projection. They align with the subsequent outcome.
[16:36:11] <Sulla> The definition of "lockdown" varries massively by state
[16:36:22] <FatPhil> I'm prepared to call Texas "right". modulo variants. of which there may be many now we have the world's largest petri dish kicking off.
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[16:37:14] <Sulla> glad texas did it though, the states are supposed to be a testing ground for different policies
[17:13:14] <Ingar> the lockdown here did make some sense though, we're tiny and very densely populated
[17:13:29] <Ingar> people would just buy booze and organize parties in the forest
[17:14:32] <Ingar> 'a quite desolate place' here just means the closest nightshop is slightly more then 5minutes of walking
[17:14:48] <Ingar> /squite/quiet, /
[17:14:55] <Ingar> pff fridays
[17:53:04] <Sulla> Back when I was crypto tradeing for fun i was trading between doge, xlm, and link. Decided that xlm was better than holding 200k doge, decided that xlm was better than holding like 10k link
[17:53:19] <Sulla> stayed in link and stopped playing because got bored
[17:53:32] <Sulla> 2/3 chance of makin it big, really should just kms
[18:04:37] <chromas> Nobody doge anymore. it's all about the chia now
[18:04:49] <chromas> stonk up on hdds and ramdisks
[18:13:05] <Sulla> roommate just set aside 100TB for this
[18:13:18] <Sulla> unless XLM is gonna go to the moon, chia my only hope
[18:15:55] <Sulla> okay braintrust, riddle me this
[18:15:56] <Sulla> https://ibb.co
[18:15:57] <systemd> ^ 03IMG-20210507-111444-950
[18:16:05] <Sulla> how do i cut the stems off of these cleanly without losing another finger tip?
[18:16:38] <chromas> Replace stems with fingertips
[18:17:00] <chromas> Do you have a dremmel or something?
[18:17:39] <Sulla> Yes, but how would one hold the keycap in such a way you could cut the stem without worrying about the dremmel kicking?
[18:17:55] <chromas> Do you have a vice or something?
[18:18:11] <chromas> s/c/s/
[18:18:11] <SedBot> <chromas> Do you have a vise or something?
[18:18:24] <Sulla> This is why i call SN the braintrust
[18:19:52] <chromas> A tiny hand saw might also work
[18:20:13] <Sulla> Tiny hand saw i dont have, but i do have this tiny litte vice
[18:20:36] <Sulla> either way i have to go to the store for a dremmel blade, so ill prob get a hand saw at same time, would rather use that than dremmel
[18:24:11] <chromas> You'll probably get less plastic dust and less chance of melting that way
[18:25:37] <chromas> need one of these https://www.youtube.com
[18:25:38] <systemd> ^ 03Weytec MK06 keyboard review REDUX (Cherry MX Clear)
[18:27:37] <Sulla> Pretty based looking keyboard
[18:32:19] <chromas> I tell you hwhat, the Wargames sequel is the worst movie I've seen all day. I've seen better writing in amateur porn.
[18:32:30] <Sulla> Wargames?
[18:33:44] <chromas> The old Matthew Broderick/Ally Sheedy movie. Someone made a sequel and it was just posted to youtube today
[18:34:59] <chromas> Full of snap zooms, shaky cam, coincidences and less than no mystery
[18:35:06] <Sulla> ah ew
[18:35:28] <Sulla> since the pandemic began I have only watched three movies, gran torino, every whiich wway but loose, and starship troopers
[18:35:36] <chromas> it's like if you combined disney channel writing with csi computer scenes
[18:35:40] <Sulla> lame
[18:36:09] <chromas> I need to watch starship troopers
[18:36:52] <chromas> just saw stargate for the first time. Then watched one of the many sequels, which involved time travel and wasn't as good
[18:37:03] <Sulla> ?
[18:37:12] <Sulla> if you havent watched the series, its not watching anything but the first movie
[18:37:17] <chromas> different actors playing the same characters
[18:37:27] <Sulla> Yeah
[18:37:41] <Sulla> So inbetween the first and second movie there is 10 seasons of show
[18:37:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Solar and Wind Cheaper than 80% of Existing Coal in the US, Report Finds - https://sylnt.us - now-factor-in-the-cost-of-pollution
[18:38:20] <chromas> I wondered if it came after the show (which I haven't watched) because I think they mentioned "SG2" or something
[18:38:44] <Sulla> "SG1" just refers to the first of like 30 teams of 4ish people
[18:42:44] <Sulla> https://www.youtube.com
[18:42:46] <systemd> ^ 03Teardown - BOX Navy switches by Kailh / Novelkeys!
[18:43:24] <Sulla> My converted hp keyboard is primarily Navy with some Jade for the keys i hit with pinky and extended ring finger
[18:43:24] <chromas> Is that the switches you've got?
[18:43:50] <Sulla> Yeah
[18:45:44] <Sulla> Overall zero complaints and completely satisfied. no fatigue when typing for a whole day
[18:45:53] <Sulla> and it makes me enjoy typing again
[18:46:26] <Sulla> https://www.youtube.com
[18:46:27] <systemd> ^ 03"Project N" custom Kailh BOX Navy keyboard review Wyse (WY-50)
[18:46:35] <Sulla> appears to be a video of his with navy installed
[18:53:05] <Sulla> I like the much deeper sound from the navy, compared to like a cherry blue
[18:56:57] <Sulla> Think ill make a bunch of balsawood adapters while I wait on the cnc bamboo ones from hemo, so i can actually use the HP keyboard
[19:20:45] <AzumaHazuki> ah, you and hemo are communicating? interesting. and not entirely unexpected
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[20:11:00] <Sulla> He and I were talking in my journal about various options for making keycap adapters, he then wanted to try making one using his CNC out of bamboo as a fun project. Gonna be sweet
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[21:06:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Children Make Up 26% of New COVID-19 Cases in Colorado - https://sylnt.us
[21:11:44] <FatPhil> blame c0lorado!
[21:12:52] <Sulla> seemed kinda obvious when you have a state that is mostly closed and you put a bunch of germ factories in a room together they would get sick
[22:21:55] <FatPhil> this is one thing that makes me a little worried about oz and nz, they don't have the immune proportion of the population, so if something does escape it could go viral, so to speak.
[22:22:48] <Sulla> Thats whats happening in oregon to a lesser amount
[22:23:26] <Sulla> we started closing things down (at the voluntary level) back when cali and wa first got hit
[22:23:36] <Sulla> which was before the spread had started from NY
[22:23:46] <Sulla> leaving us with very little herd immunity
[22:47:22] <FatPhil> it works better for islands
[22:48:20] <Sulla> would have worked fine for the US if they had shut down travel when Taiwan told us to
[22:50:13] <AzumaHazuki> if there's one thing i've come away from this with, it's that we've got to change how we think about healthcare in general and vaccines in the specific
[22:50:46] <AzumaHazuki> also that mRNA technology without a viral vector (i.e., the lipid carrier) could theoretically let us ramp up mass production of powerful vaccines very quickly
[22:52:39] <FatPhil> I don't think the liquid N2 temperature logistics are that useful
[22:53:59] <Sulla> Depends. In a pandemic sitation you want the vast majority of your effort spent in areas with a high possibility of spread
[22:54:20] <Sulla> North Dakota probably has limited access to super cold storage
[22:54:37] <Sulla> but they would also have limited spread compared to New York/Detroit/San Fran
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[23:44:42] <Deucalion> AzumaHazuki, only now you think you've got to change how the most prosperous nation on earth thinks about healthcare? I mean that's great that's the take away an all.
[23:44:54] <Deucalion> But..... umm... some decades....
[23:45:03] <AzumaHazuki> i've thought that for decades too, Deucalion
[23:45:11] <Deucalion> SOCIALIST!
[23:45:16] <Deucalion> :P
[23:45:21] <AzumaHazuki> i don't just mean how it's paid for though. i mean it has to be seen as a matter of national security now
[23:45:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux and a Voice Assistant on a Microwave Oven - https://sylnt.us - fish-and-chips
[23:45:33] <AzumaHazuki> ...okay, 2 decades, i'm not quite 33, but you know what i mean
[23:45:48] * Deucalion feels old
[23:46:30] <Deucalion> OK - how do you propose national healthcare goes with a focus on national security?
[23:47:21] <SoyCow0836> sulla -- if you are still around and haven't gone to the store yet to get something to cut the stems, I use a small jab saw to separate CNCed objects from the stock material. Like this:
[23:47:31] <SoyCow0836> https://i.ebayimg.com
[23:48:04] <SoyCow0836> A hardwar store should have it. Jig saw blades work great too, but unless you can find a handle or make one, are kind of a pain.
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[23:48:34] <AzumaHazuki> Deucalion: isn't this obvious? sick citizens are a drain on the nation's resources. preventive care costs less
[23:49:49] <Deucalion> AzumaHazuki, that's not national security though. That's common sense. A society thrives when it comes together as one, supports each other in their best and worst times.
[23:50:07] <Deucalion> National Security is something that involves other nations.
[23:50:32] <AzumaHazuki> this country has no common sense, so the best we can hope for is a Pavlovian response to "muh national security"
[23:50:49] <AzumaHazuki> this country is utterly atomized. just being here is fraying my soul
[23:51:11] <AzumaHazuki> and, unfortunately, i may not be able to leave in time...
[23:52:56] <Deucalion> I'm sad that we both live in two party, first past the post disaster areas. I fought for proportional representation here but we got a referendum on "Alernative Vote"... which is something else entirely...
[23:53:26] <Deucalion> but the 2 parties can now glibly say for decades... "we put it to referendum and it was turned down".
[23:54:24] * Deucalion looks at live satellite images.... ~phew~ no nation has atomized
[23:54:52] <Deucalion> That'd be bad... can you imagine the carbon in the atmosphere? Greta would be angry!
[23:56:42] <c0lo> The " Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data" in the https://soylentnews.org missing the c0lon after the protocol. It's worst than failing, it's redirecting to the whim of the browser and your ISP.
[23:56:43] <systemd> ^ 03Children Make Up 26% of New COVID-19 Cases in Colorado - SoylentNews
[23:57:11] <c0lo> s/data"/data" linky/
[23:57:11] <SedBot> <c0lo> The " Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data" linky in the https://soylentnews.org missing the c0lon after the protocol. It's worst than failing, it's redirecting to the whim of the browser and your ISP.