#soylent | Logs for 2021-05-05

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[00:27:03] <c0lo> FatPhil, https://www.youtube.com
[00:27:04] <systemd> ^ 03TEA PARTY REVENGE PORN - Jello Biafra and The Guantanamo School of Medicine (Music Video)
[00:28:10] <c0lo> Revolution has been cancelled, grabbing the country by the pussy has been satisfying enough.
[00:49:41] <Bytram> https://www.cnet.com
[00:49:42] <systemd> ^ 03Bugatti created the ultimate carbon-fiber pool table
[01:29:51] <tedious> Oh boy more python updates for gentoo.
[01:30:42] <AzumaHazuki> oh fuck me, not again
[01:30:55] <AzumaHazuki> what now, sudden hard switch to 3.9?
[01:31:24] <tedious> Looks like all versions are getting minor upgrades and so is rust.
[01:31:42] <tedious> So this will be compiling all night if nothing breaks.
[01:43:31] <AzumaHazuki> oi, pizdec...
[01:45:58] <tedious> I have no idea why rust is on this system.
[01:46:19] <c0lo> https://www.rawstory.com
[01:46:20] <systemd> ^ 03'Slaves loved their masters': GOP women's club president defends lawmaker's pro-slavery comments
[01:46:26] <tedious> Shouldn't it tell me if something depends on it if I try to emerge -c it?
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[01:53:04] <tedious> Oh it looks like spidermonkey depends on rust and thunar depends on spidermonkey.
[01:58:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Citrus Derivative Makes Transparent Wood 100 Percent Renewable - https://sylnt.us
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[02:40:48] <c0lo> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[02:40:50] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Stadia’s VP and Head of Product Leaves Google" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[03:36:22] <Sulla> I shold have just bought a Model F and called my life complete
[03:37:17] <Sulla> Got all the keys working except for numpad plus and enter, and then spacebar and enter
[03:37:42] <Sulla> all appear to be easy except for space bar where the leed broke off at the hole down into the board
[03:37:51] <Sulla> need to find a video on wtf to do there
[03:44:12] <c0lo> The what-exactly broke off at the hole?
[03:45:27] <Sulla> Where the swtich solders into the board the pad you would solder to broke off, along with the trace under it, terminating at a round hole down into the bord
[03:45:44] <Sulla> so i need to figure out where that hole goes and then wire directly to it
[03:45:46] <Sulla> and bypas it
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[03:53:10] <c0lo> So the copper exfoliated from the substrate and broke off?
[03:53:27] <Sulla> yeah
[03:53:32] <Sulla> its the non-diode side
[03:53:49] <Sulla> so i thin i just need to pull power from the previous switch, if its like the simple diagrams online
[03:55:06] <Sulla> on other pcbs i have this would have been much easier as i can see where all the traces go as they are writtn, this one not so much
[03:56:12] <c0lo> Nasty. Yeah, wire seems to be the only solution. If you aren't passing large currents, using a conductive ink may be a solution for interrupted traces, but not at the terminal holes.
[03:57:49] <Sulla> i had it working briefly but then one of ht ekids hit the table and now it no more worky
[04:10:31] <Sulla> mm ,,,,,,
[04:10:56] <Sulla> got space working. its a surface tension issue. used copper tape on either side to make a bridge that would allow the hole to be touched
[04:11:09] <c0lo> TIL, kids no worky in DYI keyboards.
[04:11:32] <Sulla> wish i had some high temp epoxy
[04:12:01] <Sulla> hot glue it is
[04:12:38] <Sulla> i think the ink you spoke of would work
[04:14:05] <c0lo> Can't solder on conductive ink.
[04:14:22] <Sulla> could i draw conductive ink to a pre-solderd wire?
[04:16:02] <c0lo> You need a bit of conductive epoxy to the wire, otherwise the bond will fail. Conductive ink is good for flat surfaces.
[04:17:09] <Sulla> hm
[04:26:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mars has Right Ingredients for Present-Day Microbial Life Beneath its Surface, Study Finds - https://sylnt.us - The-right-stuff
[04:26:53] <c0lo> If you want to waste a bit of time to play with DIY conductive inks, plenty of yt clips.
[04:27:18] <Sulla> going to have too, seems interesting in general
[04:27:28] <Sulla> down to just right enter and function key
[04:28:24] <c0lo> The most used, graphite in dense suspension. Better result with silver flakes (get them from copper in silver nitrate - search silver tree).
[04:30:46] <c0lo> If you use an epoxy with a spray on catalyst for suspending the particles, you can have strong "soldered" joins too.
[04:31:10] <Sulla> interesting
[04:31:52] <Sulla> i think for my situation, i just need anything conductive that will flow and not get wreked by surface tension
[04:32:07] <c0lo> Otherwise, you should be able to find things like that on electronics shops https://au.rs-online.com!8733!3!513982690016!!!g!335051959848!&cm_mmc=AU-PLA-DS3A-_-google-_-PLA_AU_EN_A_HI_Whoop-_-(AU:Whoop!)+Solder+Pastes-_-8352693&matchtype=&pla-335051959848&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2puRrtex8AIVlgsrCh2WuQBNEAQYASABEgJRw_D_BwE&gclsrc=a
[04:32:07] <c0lo> w.ds
[04:32:08] <Sulla> so it can slow into the hole and not just decide to go hang out somewhere else
[04:32:09] <systemd> ^ 03SKU-0216 | Bare Conductive Electric Paint Conductive Paint, 50ml Jar | RS Components
[04:34:00] <Sulla> gonna have to get some
[04:34:14] <c0lo> Paint is thicker than ink, *may* work on terminals too, but I wouldn't trust ink or paint alone for conditions of constant vibrations
[04:34:58] <c0lo> =g conductive ink pen
[04:34:59] <systemd> https://www.amazon.com - conductive ink pen - Amazon.com
[04:35:08] <Sulla> i have a feeling that no matter what i get it wont work and will have needed the other one
[04:38:37] <c0lo> You can try a DIY conductive paint with white glue as a the suspension/gluing medium. It's so cheap you can experiment on scraps of of pcb before going down on your problem. If it works, you can use a bit of epoxy on top of that to support it mechanically.
[04:39:49] <Sulla> ineresting ill definitly have to do that
[04:40:59] <Sulla> nice, down to just the enter key and it looks to be a bad switch
[04:45:23] <c0lo> https://www.youtube.com seems reasonable good
[04:45:25] <systemd> ^ 03How to make Conductive ink easy and cheap - remake
[04:49:17] <Sulla> super intersing
[04:49:28] <Sulla> also rip, flipped board over to remove switch and got wrong one
[04:59:48] <Sulla> ty for vid very useful
[04:59:57] <Sulla> c0lo++
[04:59:57] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 37
[05:01:26] <c0lo> Silver based https://www.youtube.com
[05:01:28] <systemd> ^ 03Conductive Silver Ink from a Ballpoint Pen
[05:12:16] <Sulla> super interesting
[05:23:30] <c0lo> Copper based conductive coating - I have doubts that polyurethane paint is a good choice for binder in electronics, but the copper nanoparticles using vitamin C works https://www.youtube.com
[05:23:32] <systemd> ^ 03#423 Making nano copper conductive paint.
[05:24:09] <c0lo> (I tried it. Just use pure vitamin c, not the stuff in the pharmacy pills)
[05:28:47] <Sulla> interesting
[05:29:21] <Sulla> other than missing a skirt to increase the distance between top and bottom on hp keyboard clamshell, and the bamboo cnc keycap adapters, im done
[06:58:31] <FatPhil> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[06:58:33] <systemd> ^ 03Covid: Japan town builds giant squid statue with relief money
[06:58:44] <Sulla> based
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[07:02:28] <FatPhil> Invasion of the Giant Presidents! https://ichef.bbci.co.uk
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[07:56:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bugatti's $300,000 Pool Table has Gyroscopic Self-Leveling for Your Yacht - https://sylnt.us - also-handy-if-your-mansion-is-susceptible-to-earthquakes
[08:20:48] <c0lo> Long term thinking, FatPhil. Or just wishful
[08:24:22] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[08:24:24] <systemd> ^ 03The US Military is EVERYWHERE
[09:35:38] <FatPhil> a mate once created an xearth plugin that would plot all US military bases, including unmanned comms stations.
[09:37:54] <FatPhil> Ah, OK, taht was done in the 90s, and therefore has been forgotten about, and needs to be reinvented.
[09:38:32] <FatPhil> There's even a chance that Vine's list was based on my mate's.
[09:45:58] <chromas> nobody remembers xearth
[09:46:23] <inz> I do
[09:49:31] <boru> I still use xephem for my astronomical imaging sessions, too.
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[10:27:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Last Resort" Antibiotic Pops Bacteria Like Balloons - https://sylnt.us - Pop-goes-the-lipopolysaccharide
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[11:42:23] <FatPhil> Dems whose votes didn't matter=28112572+15116604=43229176
[11:42:24] <FatPhil> Reps whose votes didn't matter=38039721+8063834=46103555
[11:43:06] <FatPhil> first figure = # votes cast in states where they lost - no point in any of them voting
[11:43:33] * Ingar remembers xearth
[11:43:42] <FatPhil> second figure = # *excess* votes in states where they won, that subset didn't need to vote
[11:43:55] <Ingar> had a custom config for it tu run it as wallpaper and a cloud layer download script :p
[11:50:53] <Ingar> oh correction, it was actually xplanet
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[12:02:24] <c0lo> FatPhil, if the pubs would have wanted their votes to matter, they shouldav voted lefties.
[12:03:24] <c0lo> Because a Dem vote always matter.
[12:04:56] <c0lo> (based on your first definition, it only matters if they didn't lose)
[12:05:43] <FatPhil> I'm using the standard definition of a wasted vote, not one of my own creation.
[12:06:20] <FatPhil> every vote is wasted when you lose, obviously.
[12:06:59] <c0lo> Your definition is not the same in the two cases.
[12:10:02] <c0lo> Ah, sorry, now I get it.
[12:11:44] * c0lo blames FatPhil for ambiguity
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[12:30:45] <c0lo> https://www.japantimes.co.jp
[12:30:46] <systemd> ^ 03Japan Times
[12:32:25] <c0lo> =submit https://www.stuff.co.nz
[12:32:32] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Parliament Unanimously Declares 'Severe Human Rights Abuses' Occurring Against Uyghur in China" (35p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:34:45] <Ingar> next up, NZ govt websites dissapear in massive DDOS
[12:35:39] <boru> "It's only okay when NATO members do it!"
[12:38:53] <c0lo> Naaah, it means our cousins didn't get enough from China to keep their mouth small. Or they get more from somewhere else.
[12:39:28] <c0lo> =submit https://signal.org
[12:39:29] <systemd> c0lo, 04submit failed: Parse failed
[12:39:53] <Ingar> :D
[12:40:24] <c0lo> A pity, that's quite interesting.
[12:40:33] <c0lo> #submit https://signal.org
[12:40:46] <boru> Yeah, your cousins are the ones getting money from someone else: https://www.scmp.com
[12:40:47] <systemd> ^ 03US in talks with Australia on potential responses to Taiwan war: diplomat
[12:42:07] * c0lo is telling boru he lives in ozland. Probs nz got the same deal.
[12:42:24] <boru> I'm aware of that fact.
[12:42:38] <c0lo> Cool.
[12:43:02] <boru> I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy.
[12:43:05] <c0lo> Better redundant than misunderstood.
[12:43:36] <c0lo> Hmmm... explain please?
[12:44:16] * FatPhil hands out enchiladas for everyone this 5th May
[12:45:49] * c0lo has only 75mins to receive that enchilada. Thinks FatPhil is late with it.
[12:46:44] <c0lo> What the heck were those usians doing during lockdown?
[12:46:51] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[12:46:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03US Birth Rate Sees Biggest Fall for Nearly 50 Years" (31p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:47:25] <c0lo> No matter, moar immigration will fix it.
[12:47:45] <FatPhil> conclusion - most conception happens in alleyways behind nightclubs
[12:48:33] <c0lo> Drunken sex, more generally.
[12:48:47] <FatPhil> clearly it was election year rather than erection year
[12:51:25] <c0lo> Yes, usians got more satisfaction in "fuck your feelz". Not quite conducive to birth rate growth that one.
[12:52:50] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theregister.com
[12:52:51] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'Millions' of Dell PCs Will Grant Malware, Rogue Users Admin-level Access If Asked Nicely" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:54:02] <c0lo> =submit https://www.npr.org
[12:54:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pfizer Says FDA Will Soon Authorize COVID-19 Vaccine for 12-15 Age Group" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:55:29] * AzumaHazuki has to laugh a bit at how the same politicians who are so anti-immigrant and "they will not replace us!' are against economic policy that will make Americans WANT to have kids
[12:55:53] <AzumaHazuki> ironically, the best thing to do to up the american fertility rate is to go full European social safety net
[12:58:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DogeCoin Hit 60 Cents: What's Behind the Latest Surge - https://sylnt.us
[12:58:23] <c0lo> Didn't help the europeans, why do you think it will help usians?
[12:58:31] <c0lo> =submit https://www.abc.net.au
[12:58:35] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Antarctic Ocean Drone Washed Ashore in Victoria, to be Retrieved by US Owners - ABC News" (46p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:04:26] <c0lo> black on black https://www.villages-news.com
[13:04:28] <systemd> ^ 03Villager arrested in alleged Whopper-throwing racial tirade
[13:06:24] <c0lo> =submit https://markets.businessinsider.com
[13:06:26] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08A Bill in New York Aims to Halt Bitcoin Mining for 3 Years Until its Environmental Impact Can be Ass" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:06:27] <AzumaHazuki> classy as fuck
[13:06:36] <AzumaHazuki> the burger thing
[13:06:51] <AzumaHazuki> don't waste food dammit, especially not meat >< arrrgh
[13:07:18] <FatPhil> yeah, food-fights' environmental impacts are ass
[13:09:31] <c0lo> Can be ass to be precise
[13:09:53] <c0lo> =submit https://thehill.com
[13:09:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pfizer Earned $3.5 Billion on COVID-19 Vaccine in First Quarter" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:18:36] <c0lo> =submit https://www.cbsnews.com
[13:18:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Justice Department Objects to National Rifle Association's Bankruptcy Plan" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:21:10] <c0lo> Modi is dead https://www.sbs.com.au
[13:23:07] <c0lo> Inadvertently. Biden may have a better upper hand than Trump https://www.aljazeera.com
[13:23:09] <systemd> ^ 03US’s Blinken tells North Korea: Diplomatic ball is in your court
[13:32:47] <c0lo> China started to make mistakes https://www.theguardian.com
[13:32:47] <systemd> ^ 03EU efforts to ratify China investment deal ‘suspended’ after sanctions
[13:33:39] <c0lo> https://www.japantimes.co.jp
[13:33:40] <systemd> ^ 03Japan Times
[13:35:03] <Bytram> This can't be this difficult? I want to print a plain ASCII text file (though I'd love if it worked with UNICODE/UTF-8). WAY WAY back when, I had a Laserjet 2P. Constructed some batch programs to copy specially-crafted text files (reset, set font face / font size / orientation / etc.) and then the file I wanted to print straight to the printer port. Worked like a champ! Later, on windows (XP / 7-PRO), with USB-connected Brother laser
[13:35:03] <Bytram> printer ran into problems. Formatted intended page layout using pr (ported to windows from unix) and handed it off to NOTEPAD with arguments to load file and print and exit. Would like to do the same on Linux (Ubuntu MATE) with USB-connected Brother laser printers. Suggestions?
[13:36:29] <AzumaHazuki> hm...if anything you'd think that would be easier on Linux
[13:36:46] <AzumaHazuki> try to cat the file in question to /dev/lp0 if such exists? (disclaimer: no idea what that will do)
[13:37:34] <Bytram> Hi! Appreciate the thought!
[13:37:38] <c0lo> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
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[13:37:57] <c0lo> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
[13:38:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03‘GET THE F*** OUT’: Filipino Diplomat Fumes Over China Incursions" (25p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:39:01] <Bytram> Right now, things are working okay with, e.g. printing from FireFox. I am not much in an exploring and having things blow up and try to get things working again mood.
[13:39:57] <Bytram> So, before I try exploring and blowing things up, thought I'd ask if anyone had something simple they did that worked from them.
[13:41:49] <Bytram> Part of me would really like to have a safe reset-back-to-where-I-am-now command, but for now prefer leveraging other people's experience.
[13:42:13] <Bytram> I've looked into CUPS but it *seems* to be overkill atm
[13:43:07] <c0lo> So, elections in Scotland tomoz, FatPhil?
[13:43:28] <Bytram> Also considered replicating the feed-a-file-to-an-editor-and-tell-the-editor-to-print-the-file, but no luck so far.
[13:47:20] <c0lo> =submit https://theconversation.com
[13:47:25] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03China Does Not Want War, at Least Not Yet. It's Playing the Long Game" (8p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:51:39] <AzumaHazuki> see i said as much and got mocked for it
[13:52:59] <FatPhil> heck, if china doesn't want a war, that probably means it's the best time for it.
[13:53:48] <AzumaHazuki> and under what pretenses, with what resources, and what's the post-war plan?
[13:53:57] <AzumaHazuki> the US is in no position to even attempt that
[13:54:07] <c0lo> China before Xi was playing the long game perfectly. With Xi, it started to make too many mistakes in trying to hurry up.
[13:56:30] <c0lo> FatPhil, interested in cheap homes in Italy? Looks like they didn't procreate enough either. https://www.news.com.au
[13:56:33] <systemd> ^ 03Woman who bought three of Italy’s $1.50 houses reveals cost to live in them
[14:00:07] <AzumaHazuki> well, yes, entire house is not sold for one Euro without strings attached
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[14:05:17] <c0lo> =submit penises-aren't-shrinking-that-fast https://theconversation.com
[14:05:20] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Are Chemicals Shrinking Your Penis and Depleting Your Sperm? Here's What the Evidence Really Says" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:06:40] <c0lo> That's the good news. The bad news, they are shrinking in larger numbers in Westernalized societies, because they are measuring their dick more frequently.
[14:09:17] <AzumaHazuki> i can confidently say chemicals are having no effect on penis size or sperm count for me whatsoever =P
[14:14:59] <c0lo> You never measured any of the two, you can't know for sure, AzumaHazuki (grin)
[14:15:21] <c0lo> https://www.irishpost.com
[14:15:22] <systemd> ^ 03Cleaner leaves brilliantly brutal note slamming her ‘aggressive and cruel’ boss on last day in the job
[14:15:31] <AzumaHazuki> my penis sits in the sock drawer and eats batteries and possibly dust bunnies =P
[14:15:45] <AzumaHazuki> it has no sperm that i know of
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[14:19:12] <c0lo> Measure it, then feed it with bisphosphenol for a while, then measure it again.
[14:19:40] <c0lo> =submit https://www.abc.net.au
[14:19:44] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Green Hydrogen Electrolysers to be Built in Regional Australia With Government Backing - ABC News" (46p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:23:05] <c0lo> Buffet says invest in power transmission https://www.afr.com
[14:23:06] <systemd> ^ 03Buffett, at 90, still puts his money where his mouth is
[14:24:53] <c0lo> Rrright, I'm going to do something about the off-grid battery I was thinking for a while. Last time the gridders got greedy, the retail price of electricity skyrocketed.
[14:26:04] <AzumaHazuki> blasphemer. bow down to Mammon, God of Free Markets!
[14:27:42] <c0lo> I do. I'm listening to the one that takes care of my pocket. It's something I have a certain amount of control over.
[14:28:11] <c0lo> Like... WTF?!? https://www.theguardian.com
[14:28:12] <systemd> ^ 03Workers at Indonesian pharma firm arrested over ‘reused’ Covid swabs
[14:32:33] <FatPhil> dust them down, they're as good as new
[14:34:48] <c0lo> What? The house int Italy?
[14:35:16] <c0lo> s/house int/houses in/
[14:35:16] <SedBot> <c0lo> What? The houses in Italy?
[14:35:50] <c0lo> =submit nasa-destroys-europe https://phys.org
[14:35:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Lessons Learned From a Simulated Asteroid Strike" (32p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[14:36:39] <FatPhil> Yeah, they don't like Austria, apparently
[14:37:55] <c0lo> Bavaria, me reckons.
[14:38:39] <c0lo> But I may be too sleepy to reckon for sure
[14:41:22] <FatPhil> https://i.imgur.com
[14:42:35] <c0lo> FatPhil, apropos of ^ https://www.news.com.au
[14:42:37] <systemd> ^ 03Gates’ annual holidays with ex-girlfriend
[14:43:29] <c0lo> (gossip punishment for mistaking #soylent for #shitlords)
[14:45:02] <c0lo> =submit https://therecord.media
[14:45:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Belgium's Government Network Goes Down After Massive DDoS Attack" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:46:42] <FatPhil> "In Greece, the couple rented a motorcycle, although Gates was so bad at driving it that Winblad ended up in a ditch, he said."
[14:47:01] <c0lo> =submit bye-bye-de-beers https://www.bbc.com
[14:47:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pandora Says Laboratory-made Diamonds are Forever" (38p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:48:10] <FatPhil> maybe the opposite - those deposition diamonds aren't cheap and could provide a support price below which natural ones can't fall
[14:49:09] <c0lo> 1/3 the cost of mining them.
[14:50:32] <c0lo> how do they deliver the vaccines on top of Everest, then? https://www.bbc.com
[14:50:33] <systemd> ^ 03Covid cases at Everest base camp raise fears of serious outbreak
[14:51:48] <c0lo> LOL https://www.msn.com
[14:51:49] <systemd> ^ 03Ted Cruz's threat to 'woke CEOs' was 'the most openly corrupt thing any Senator has said,' ethics expert says
[14:53:22] <AzumaHazuki> i saw that, lol. that's fucking amazing. he flapped his fat foodsucker about the fact that there is bribery going on
[14:54:36] <AzumaHazuki> "the left and their big business allies" he says. jesus haploid christ
[14:54:52] <AzumaHazuki> if there were any justice, every time he opens his mouth he'd vomit diarrhea
[14:55:58] <Runaway1956> Irony - when AzumaHazuki dictates justice
[14:57:35] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:57:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5546
[14:58:09] <Runaway1956> coffee++ agreed - my first cup is sitting here
[14:58:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5547
[14:58:47] <Runaway1956> Bytram, I think I finally figured out my problem with FAH
[14:58:54] <Runaway1956> you won't believe this
[14:59:01] <Runaway1956> Chrome browser
[14:59:22] <c0lo> It will blow your mind. Shoot, Runaway
[14:59:29] * Bytram is somehow not entirely surprised
[14:59:42] <Bytram> c0lo: Bang!
[14:59:51] <Runaway1956> I disabled Chrome access to hardware acceleration
[15:00:04] <Runaway1956> and suddenly I'm back where I was last year
[15:00:10] <Runaway1956> https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[15:00:11] <systemd> ^ 03Runaway1956 User Summary - Folding@Home Stats
[15:00:29] <Bytram> Ahhhh! Chrome was interrupting the F@H processing?
[15:00:29] <Runaway1956> Yesterday dropped because electricity was out for about 6 hours
[15:00:38] <Runaway1956> I think so.
[15:00:48] <Bytram> Ugh. that's rough.
[15:01:25] <Bytram> Power outages are always a pain, esp in heating/cooling season.
[15:01:25] <Runaway1956> Chrome has been installed all along, I suspect one of Chrome's updates screwed things up, sometime around December
[15:01:29] <c0lo> Chrome cuts Runaway's electricity in revenge.
[15:01:52] * Runaway1956 cuts c0lo's revenge in electricity
[15:02:08] <Bytram> c0lo: might have more success cutting the wire
[15:02:39] * Runaway1956 doesn't want to go back to the kitchen
[15:02:41] * c0lo cuts electricity's revenge in Runaway
[15:02:43] <Bytram> (Pro tip: wear heavy rubber gloves)
[15:03:01] <Runaway1956> seems the boys marched through the house all night long depositing dirty dishes
[15:06:55] <c0lo> This just in https://www.abc.net.au
[15:06:57] <systemd> ^ 03Donald Trump's Facebook ban upheld by Oversight Board - ABC News
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[15:35:47] <FatPhil> Has Donald Trump's Face been upheld by an Overweight Board?
[15:35:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - RPI Computer Scientist Wins NSF Award to Match Exascale Systems With Petascale Data Volumes - https://sylnt.us
[15:36:32] <progo> the less people on Facebook, the better
[15:36:58] * progo thinks
[15:36:58] <progo> I'm 5 years Facebook-free, I think
[15:37:24] <progo> **the fewer people on Facebook, the better
[15:45:11] <FatPhil> i've never had an account, but a few pages (perhaps for legal reasons regarding age-gating) that I'd like to be able to see require a log in. So I've almost been tempted to sign up. However, the idea of so doing squicks me too much.
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[15:53:58] <boru> I've never had an account on any social media platform, however, something that might interest you are things zuckerberg was questioned about during the last congress testimony: shadow profiles. Even if you don't have an account, they've aggregated enough data about other people to no only know you exist, but they've also worked out numerous facts about you, all without your consent.
[15:54:29] <boru> Friends don't let friends use facebook. Or whatsapp for that matter.
[15:55:03] <boru> FAGMAN all buy or trade one another's data, as well as from several other sources.
[15:55:15] <boru> And people think some of these services are free...
[15:56:37] <boru> The UK is a prime example of this sort of thing. Every company requires an email address for you to sign up. This is essentially a primary key for cross referencing service that you had signed up for.
[15:56:47] <boru> Thankfully, the GDPR put a stop of that.
[15:57:03] <boru> But then the UK left the EU, so they're exempt from it again.
[15:57:05] <progo> I've been aware of the shadow google and facebook profiles for years, yep
[15:57:32] <boru> Truly dystopian stuff.
[15:57:43] <progo> I am aware of the general public Internet surveillance but I don't spend time worrying about it for myself
[15:57:50] <boru> They're essentially private extensions of the US intelligence services.
[16:03:45] <Sulla> Boomers and millennials keep moving into my neighborhood and genociding all the big old trees
[16:04:15] <Sulla> Boomers afraid that "THEY MIGHT FALL ON ME" and millennials hate them for blocking the light to their organic garden
[16:05:06] <Sulla> Watching currenlty as they cut down this 200 foot fir
[16:14:04] <chromas> Where are they putting the wood?
[16:15:18] <Sulla> What can't be chipped they are loading onto a truck, i asked if i could get some for firewood but was told no
[16:15:39] <Sulla> muh liability means they will just take it to a yard debris place
[16:15:50] <chromas> Why give away for free what you can pay someone else to turn into trash?
[16:16:44] <Sulla> Boomers man. probably hates fireplace smoke so he told them they have to get rid of it so some neighbor can't use it and smell up near his house
[16:17:12] <Sulla> this boomer in particular has been lobbying complaints to the local govt to have my sequoia and doug fir removed
[16:17:18] <Sulla> both like 200+ft
[16:17:36] <Sulla> Sequoia has to have like a 8ft diameter
[16:17:49] <Sulla> "It could fall on my house!"
[16:18:17] <chromas> Is it a healthy tree?
[16:18:27] <Sulla> Yeah
[16:20:09] <chromas> Are they Californians?
[16:20:59] <Sulla> This boomer isn't. Some young californians moved in though and ripped out three massive trees because they were shading a future organic garden.
[16:21:06] <Sulla> I really like old trees
[16:21:50] <Sulla> If a tree is sick i get it
[16:48:11] <boru> Yeah, felling old growth is really messed up. People who know nothing about forestry think replanting is adequately effective.
[16:48:38] <Sulla> Yeah
[16:48:44] <boru> Old growth supports an entire ecosystem, rather than just provide shade to a few flora and fauna.
[16:49:07] <boru> It bothers me greatly when I see old growth in log piles.
[16:49:39] <Sulla> when is the SN15 test
[16:50:40] <boru> Next week, isn't it?
[16:51:00] <boru> Unless that Chinese rocket body deorbits and bombs the launch site.
[16:52:31] <boru> Which it might do at the weekend, if I'm not mistaken.
[16:52:50] <Sulla> Where is it supposed to drop? any projection yet. i assume odds are it will drop in the pacific
[17:02:13] <Runaway1956> Holy shit, Sulla - around here an 80 ft tree seems huge
[17:04:40] <Sulla> Alaska was the same way and was always depressing
[17:06:54] <Sulla> SN15 could be today
[17:07:35] <Sulla> currenlty they are unchaining the flaps
[17:08:19] <Sulla> 12pm to 8pm is the launch window
[17:49:42] <FatPhil> the tracker page didn't work for me at all, even with all the js bumrape enabled.
[18:07:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Do People Aged 105 and Over Live Longer Because They Have More Efficient DNA Repair? - https://sylnt.us - Betteridge-Says-"No"?
[19:07:48] <FatPhil> Re Archegos - "the fund was a 300x leveraged" - what's the 'facepalm' ascii-art smiley?
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[20:26:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Starlink Can Serve 500,000 Users Easily, Several Million “More of a Challenge” - https://sylnt.us - progress
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[20:46:49] <halibut> Bytram: I do not frequently print text files, but have found a2ps handy. ``a2ps <file>'' should print a text file. ``a2ps -B <file>'' should print with less extra stuff around. ``a2ps -o output.ps <file>'' should create a PostScript file so you can see what it would look like, and view/print from some PS/PDF viewing program.
[20:47:42] <halibut> a2ps has various options for pretty-printing code, and putting multiple pages of text on a single page, which tends to be handy since a lot of time straight text files are not well suited to the size of a page.
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[20:57:02] <FatPhil> PS/PDF viewing programs themselves are horrible nests of unwanted dependencies
[20:57:55] <FatPhil> I seem to remember them pulling in crap like avahi and samba and crap like that.
[20:59:26] <AzumaHazuki> one nice thing about gentoo is you can cut a lot of that out
[21:00:06] <Bytram> halibut: FatPhil: I very much appreciate the input! Unfortunately, I'm under the weather right now. Hoping a nap will make a difference. Laters.
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[21:52:09] <Sulla> Lauch should be shortly
[22:31:19] <Sulla> SN15 has landed
[23:06:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How to Stop AI from Recognizing Your Face in Selfies - https://sylnt.us - why-not-just-stop-sharing-selfies
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