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[00:32:44] <Bytram> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[00:32:45] <systemd> ^ 03America is running low on chicken. Blame covid-19, a sandwich craze and huge appetite for wings
[01:08:33] <c0lo> America is running low on tanker truck drivers too https://abcnews.go.com
[01:08:34] <systemd> ^ 03Lack of truck drivers could lead to fuel shortage this summer
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[01:26:34] <bacterium> i thought truck driving was being converted to robot job anyway
[01:27:37] <bacterium> that's like 3.5 million usian jobs
[01:28:28] <c0lo> bacterium, gasoline tank trucks aren't trucks, they are bombs on wheels.
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[01:36:27] <bacterium> no no no, you negative nancy, they are the wild buffalos of the blue-collar amerikuh
[01:36:32] <bacterium> i remember back in mass
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[01:37:02] <bacterium> scott brown got elected by basically running this ad: https://www.youtube.com
[01:37:03] <systemd> ^ 03"Hey, Dad"
[01:37:14] <bacterium> that's the powa of teh truck
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[02:06:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Investigating Possible Directed Energy Attack Near the White House - https://sylnt.us - directed-energy-weapons
[02:08:07] <c0lo> bacterium, that's not a truck.This is a truck https://www.youtube.com
[02:08:08] <systemd> ^ 03Longest Truck in The World - Road Train in Australia
[02:16:02] <Bytram> https://nautil.us
[02:16:03] <systemd> ^ 03Do We Have Free Will? Maybe It Doesn't Matter
[02:17:29] <bacterium> YEEE-HAAA lol c0lo
[02:27:27] <c0lo> There, nothing unusual 'round here https://www.youtube.com
[02:27:29] <systemd> ^ 03Huge Roadtrains of the North West !
[03:57:00] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[03:57:01] <systemd> ^ 03Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin will reveal when it's selling tickets to space on May 5 ( https://www.cnet.com )
[04:06:51] <c0lo> Private school, do as they want, but I hardly think is going to be a smart move https://www.dailymail.co.uk
[04:06:54] <systemd> ^ 03Teacher at Miami school told 5th graders not to HUG vaccinated parents
[04:08:08] <c0lo> Kudos for sticking to their beliefs, let Darwin be right one more time.
[04:09:33] <c0lo> https://pbs.twimg.com
[04:30:54] <Sulla> Teachers in Oregon are telling kids the same thing, but for different reasons
[04:32:15] <c0lo> Linky, Sulla, please?
[04:32:37] <Sulla> during my kids class (still remote) they told them not to hug their parents so they dont catch covid
[04:32:51] <Sulla> i dont record school sessions os doesnt do much good
[04:33:10] <c0lo> Ah, that's reasonable.
[04:33:48] <Sulla> i cant find the ted stevens lumberjack political ad
[04:33:50] <Sulla> it was one of the best
[04:34:15] <c0lo> Looks like bi-partisan positions are still possible https://www.nbcnews.com
[04:34:16] <systemd> ^ 03Senate votes to open floodgates, passes bipartisan $35 billion water infrastructure bill
[04:36:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's Ingenuity Helicopter Just Failed to Lift Off From the Martian Surface, but It Will Try Again - https://sylnt.us - Rotorcraft-on-Mars!
[05:27:21] <c0lo> https://studentloanjustice.org
[05:27:22] <systemd> ^ 03| Student Loan Justice
[05:27:43] <c0lo> ^^^
[05:27:55] <c0lo> "More than a third of U.S. states owe more than their entire state budgets in student loan debt."
[05:29:53] <c0lo> =submit https://studentloanjustice.medium.com
[05:29:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Conservatives Have a Major Student Loan Problem." (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:31:29] <c0lo> "What is most disturbing: White House Budget data going back decades show that the government has managed to make a profit, even, on defaulted loans- a claim that no other lender can make, and a defining characteristic of a predatory lending system."
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[06:36:49] <chromas> Don't hug family. It's for the good of the land
[06:44:01] <Sulla> reeee did a bad solder when hooking up old keyboards lights
[06:44:17] <Sulla> dropped something and it fell, pealed wire down the board
[07:05:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This Tech Makes Perishable Food Last Months Without a Fridge - https://sylnt.us
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[07:24:26] <chromas> https://www.theonion.com
[07:24:26] <systemd> ^ 03Entomologists Identify Moth Species That Evolved To Fly Out Of Poor People’s Wallets
[07:25:10] <chromas> "Maybe if they didn't spend all their money on sad trombones they wouldn't be in this predicament."
[07:29:52] * FatPhil saw a clip of a very weird moth species the other day when watching David Attenborough's /Life: Insects/ - there are some fricken weird creatures out there.
[07:30:26] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, nature's bizarre...
[07:31:07] <FatPhil> It had little nubs that it could inflate to about 20 times their normal length and as they expanded they unfurled great fluffy feathery bits.
[07:31:53] <FatPhil> literally from little pimples to great feather boas with a few breaths.
[07:32:11] <FatPhil> I've had girlfriends like that, boom tish
[07:33:19] <chromas> A single tom? is that how they do it in Estonia?
[07:35:47] <c0lo> You should see their hi-hat, makes all that's missing from a single tom and then a bit more.
[07:35:54] <FatPhil> we do it with 14 year-olds in Estonia ;-)
[07:36:11] <chromas> !grab FatPhil
[07:36:11] <Bender> Added quote 1038
[08:08:40] <c0lo> =submit https://www.wionews.com
[08:08:43] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Economic Warfare Against Tech Sector: Taiwan Bans Recruitment for Jobs in China to Combat Brain Drai" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:09:18] <c0lo> Same news https://asia.nikkei.com
[08:09:21] <systemd> ^ 03Nikkei Asia
[09:39:19] <c0lo> =submit the-price-of-oculus-freedom https://www.pcgamer.com
[09:39:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Oculus Will Sell You a Quest 2 Headset That Doesn't Need Facebook for an Extra $500" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:40:10] <c0lo> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[09:40:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Verizon Tries to Sell Yahoo and AOL After Spending $9 Billion on Fallen Giants" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:45:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cyber-attack Hackers Threaten to Share US Police Informant Data - https://sylnt.us
[09:48:16] <c0lo> =submit arent-we-all? https://www.aljazeera.com
[09:48:19] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03‘Cannon Fodder’: India’s COVID-hit Medical Students Feel Betrayed" (43p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[12:17:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Speed at Which World’s Glaciers are Melting has Doubled in 20 Years - https://sylnt.us
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[12:48:22] <c0lo> Heartbreaking https://www.theguardian.com
[12:48:23] <systemd> ^ 03Arundhati Roy on India’s Covid catastrophe: ‘We are witnessing a crime against humanity’
[12:55:08] <c0lo> =submit https://www.scientificamerican.com
[12:55:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide During the COVID Pandemic" (24p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:59:45] <FatPhil> Estonia's weekly kaputnik-per-kapita was twice what India's was last week.
[13:00:14] <FatPhil> Ukraine's was twice that.
[13:00:38] <FatPhil> Hungary's more than twice that.
[13:18:37] <FatPhil> maybe if we cropspray H1N1 over population hubs we can get rid of covid?
[13:18:55] <FatPhil> Then we can put cholera in the water to get rid of H1N1
[13:19:25] <boru> That strategy works out in the long run, if you keep going.
[13:19:31] <boru> No humans == no one to get sick
[13:19:56] <FatPhil> And finally, make unprotected sex with a different partner every night compulsory, and get that HIV to show its true potential - free drugs too, but no free needles.
[13:30:15] <FatPhil> =yt NHTniCvTLDY
[13:30:16] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Two Viruses That We’ve Had For Millions of Years (09:31; 900,930 views; 👍31,074 👎397)
[13:30:54] <FatPhil> So best not to take things too far, won't someone think of the monkeys!
[13:53:37] <Ingar> the 12 monkeys?
[13:59:32] <Bytram> FatPhil: s/y/e/
[13:59:32] <SedBot> <Bytram> <FatPhil> So best not to take things too far, won't someone think of the monkees!
[13:59:54] <Bytram> =yt monkees station
[13:59:55] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Monkees - Last Train To Clarksville 1966 (02:45; 13,933,144 views; 👍76,312 👎2,128)
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[14:06:29] <FatPhil> Nope. Obviously the Monkey who is tasked with safe transportation of Tripitaka.
[14:07:20] <Bytram> Hmm, is there also Bipitaka?
[14:09:30] <c0lo> FatPhil, predating that monkey https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:09:31] <systemd> ^ 03Vanara - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[14:09:55] <FatPhil> =w tripitaka
[14:09:56] <systemd> Tripiṭaka (Sanskrit: [trɪˈpɪʈɐkɐ]) or Tipiṭaka (Pali: [tɪˈpɪʈɐkɐ]) meaning &quot;Triple Basket&quot; is the traditional term for ancient collections of Buddhist - https://en.wikipedia.orgṭaka
[14:10:10] <c0lo> =w Hanuman
[14:10:10] <systemd> Hanuman (/ˈhʌnʊˌmɑːn/; Sanskrit: हनुमान्, IAST: Hanumān) is a Hindu god and divine vanara companion of the god Rama. Hanuman is one of the central characters - https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:10:37] <Bytram> =w Rendevous with Rama
[14:10:37] <systemd> Rendezvous with Rama is a science fiction novel by British writer Arthur C. Clarke first published in 1973. Set in the 2130s, the story involves a 50-by-20-kilometre - https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:13:04] <FatPhil> c0lo++ - but there was no such telly program to watch when I was a kid
[14:13:04] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 35
[14:13:44] * FatPhil never saw /The Water Margin/ but was addicted to /Monkey/. I've been told they'd not that dissimilar.
[14:14:15] <c0lo> Yeah, we watched other monkeys
[14:14:19] <c0lo> =w King Louie
[14:14:19] <systemd> King Louie is a fictional character introduced in Walt Disney's 1967 animated musical film, The Jungle Book. Unlike the majority of the adapted characters - https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:15:35] <Bytram> =yt Louie Louie
[14:15:36] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Kingsmen - Louie Louie (02:48; 6,127,815 views; 👍39,653 👎1,001)
[14:16:15] <FatPhil> Are you the king of the swingers?
[14:16:52] <Bytram> wouldn't that be the bear in Jungle Book?
[14:17:38] <FatPhil> nope, the non-cannon orangutan
[14:17:54] <c0lo> =yt 9JDzlhW3XTM
[14:17:55] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Jungle Book - I wanna be like you w/lyrics (03:51; 58,400,898 views; 👍199,613 👎13,936)
[14:18:14] <Bytram> ooops, my bad! It's been decades since I saw it!
[14:18:38] <FatPhil> Baloo was the bear, IIRC?
[14:18:48] <Bytram> seems right to me
[14:19:10] <Bytram> =w The Jungle Book Disney
[14:19:11] <systemd> The Jungle Book is a 1967 American animated musical adventure comedy film produced by Walt Disney Productions. Based on Rudyard Kipling's 1894 book of - https://en.wikipedia.org(1967_film)
[14:21:46] <Bytram> Yep, seems like I saw it shortly after it came out. No wonder it's a bit hazy!
[14:21:52] <c0lo> =yt 08NlhjpVFsU
[14:21:53] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Bare Necessities (from The Jungle Book) (02:13; 42,557,917 views; 👍71,580 👎6,946)
[14:22:14] <c0lo> Baloo ^^^
[14:22:20] <Bytram> welp, times a wastin' -- gotta get started about my day.
[14:22:29] <Bytram> c0lo++ tyvm
[14:22:29] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 36
[14:32:24] <c0lo> bytram, that's what the friends are for
[14:32:42] <c0lo> =yt wTrB45tfFDQ
[14:32:42] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Jungle Book That's What Friends Are For Song (02:18; 1,014,772 views; 👍5,091 👎195)
[14:34:09] <FatPhil> c0lo-- - jungle book is racist and you should be cancelled!
[14:34:09] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 35
[14:35:06] <c0lo> FatPhil, it is not.
[14:35:25] <c0lo> Trust me. Trust *in* me
[14:35:56] <c0lo> =yt cCX5JJwkZhU
[14:35:57] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Jungle Book: Trust in Me (02:48; 796,791 views; 👍5,233 👎219)
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[14:44:15] <FatPhil> more links is more racismus
[14:46:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In the Roaring Twenties, Ads Make a Comeback - https://sylnt.us - Oh-happy-days
[14:48:35] <c0lo> Now just a minute you pompous old windbag! https://youtu.be
[14:48:38] <systemd> ^ 03Jungle Book: Elephant Reprise ( https://www.youtube.com )
[14:53:59] <c0lo> https://www.kotaku.com.au
[14:54:01] <systemd> ^ 03Giant Gundam Statue Finished In China
[14:54:43] <FatPhil> Op, op op Gundam Style!
[14:57:55] <c0lo> The start of mecha in popular fiction, actually
[14:58:03] <c0lo> =w Gundam
[14:58:04] <systemd> Gundam (Japanese: ガンダムシリーズ, Hepburn: Gandamu Shirīzu, lit. Gundam Series) is a Japanese military science fiction media franchise/media mix. Created by - https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:58:14] <c0lo> (1978)
[14:59:20] <boru> Was that before Battletech, even?
[15:00:12] <boru> Seems to be.
[15:01:25] <boru> Neat. Very big thunderstorm on radar, heading this way.
[15:02:04] <AzumaHazuki> my girlfriend is obsessed with giant robots
[15:02:08] <c0lo> Sooo Ozzie https://www.abc.net.au
[15:02:11] <systemd> ^ 03Feeling hungover? Maybe you should have gone to this non-alcoholic bar instead
[15:02:15] <AzumaHazuki> Gundam, Armored Core, Front Mission, you name it
[15:02:27] <c0lo> =w pub with no beer
[15:02:27] <systemd> &quot;A Pub with No Beer&quot; is the title of a humorous country song made famous by country singers Slim Dusty (in Australia, the United Kingdom and the United - https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:02:43] <AzumaHazuki> i know some of the Front Mission Wanzer types from having played the SNES/SFC game but that's it
[15:06:19] <c0lo> The sound of a hydrogen fuelled car https://www.drive.com.au
[15:06:22] <systemd> ^ 03Toyota proves hydrogen-powered cars can sound good
[15:08:55] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki https://www.miragenews.com
[15:08:56] <systemd> ^ 03'Pokemonas': Bacteria related to lung parasites discovered, named after Pokémon
[15:10:30] <FatPhil> I think you'll find that Talos predates any oriental mecha by millennia
[15:10:47] <FatPhil> =w talos
[15:10:48] <systemd> In Greek mythology, Talos, also spelled Talus (/ˈteɪlɒs/; Greek: Τάλως, Tálōs) or Talon (/ˈteɪlɒn, ən/; Greek: Τάλων, Tálōn), was a giant automaton made - https://en.wikipedia.org(automaton)
[15:11:07] <boru> True indeed.
[15:11:49] <c0lo> It wasn't very popular, tho. Just ask aristarchus
[15:12:03] <FatPhil> He would know
[15:12:23] <c0lo> Oh, shit, it's tomorrow already. Bi
[15:16:02] <FatPhil> Tri!
[15:27:54] <FatPhil> my eyes are shot for the day. And apparently it's 5 somewhere. Hmmm, alas the retards in power are keeping the restaurants and bars closed still, so no fun for phils.
[15:28:26] <FatPhil> The restaurants/cafes that are still alive have just started constructing their summer terraces, so that's a promising sign.
[15:31:14] <FatPhil> Our Justice Minister wrote a scathing piece in the national press saying "it was done without evidence, and was probably illegal, and there's no evidence of it achieving anything at all - please sue the government if you were affected"!
[15:50:31] <boru> FunPhil is in lockdown.
[15:50:52] <boru> But yes, I think that is a common sentiment.
[15:55:54] <FatPhil> The govt argument was "we can't trace cases, therefore close restaurants". The result was "we can't trace cases". I'm a strong believer in evidence-based health policy, as is our Justice Tzar apparently.
[15:56:34] <boru> Indeed.
[15:56:38] <FatPhil> And technically we do have a pretty strong rights-based constitution, which has almost certainly been violated.
[15:56:57] <boru> Anyway, I see your 5 and raise you whiskey o'clock. What a day.
[15:57:00] * boru raises glass.
[15:57:26] <FatPhil> Oooh, your good health boru - I'll grab a local lager from the fridge!
[15:58:26] <boru> Good man, yourself.
[16:00:44] <FatPhil> The only thing the govt has reopened after the "let's give it a couple of months, eh?" restrictions is outdoor training for up to 12 people.
[16:00:58] <boru> I've got Redbreast 12 cask strength, and a few bottles of Tegernseer Hell cooling off in the fridge. This storm system has pushed lots of warm, humid air ahead of it. Helles would've been preferable, but sure beggars can't be choosers.
[16:00:59] <FatPhil> So tomorrow we're holding "Crap Beer Training"
[16:01:12] <boru> Heh
[16:01:25] <FatPhil> We were planning to hold Talling Crap Beer Festival, but that would be illegal.
[16:01:30] <FatPhil> s/ng/nn/
[16:01:31] <SedBot> <FatPhil> We were planninn to hold Talling Crap Beer Festival, but that would be illegal.
[16:01:32] <boru> There'd be war here if they closed the Getränkemarkt
[16:01:35] <FatPhil> fux
[16:01:37] <FatPhil> need more beer
[16:01:46] <boru> Sounds like it.
[16:02:56] <boru> Well, that hit the spot.
[16:03:07] <FatPhil> Herzoglich Bayerisches Brauhaus Tegernsee - You have rated 6 beersfrom this brewery
[16:03:41] <FatPhil> Oh, yeah, Spezial was gooood
[16:03:42] <boru> It's one of the more decent Hells in Bavaria. That and Augustiner would be my go to for Hell.
[16:04:00] <boru> Weiß on the other hand, it depends.
[16:04:08] <boru> So long as it's not Spatan.
[16:04:15] <boru> That is objectively the worst beer down here.
[16:04:29] <boru> Spaten, even.
[16:05:12] <boru> Apparently they make Franziskaner Weiß now. I guess they bought it.
[16:05:17] <boru> That's a decent beer.
[16:05:33] <FatPhil> the Hell I had from a dodgy corner shop, and was past BB. not what the brewer intended I'm sure
[16:05:49] <boru> Surely not.
[16:06:21] <FatPhil> corner shop in Berlin, let's apportion blame correctly!
[16:06:41] <boru> Quite.
[16:06:53] <boru> Nothing good comes out of Berlin.
[16:07:04] <FatPhil> And, yup, Spaten is scraping the bottom of whatever's below the barrel
[16:07:11] <boru> Aye, dead on.
[16:07:17] <boru> Awful stuff.
[16:08:14] <boru> Shame they cancelled Oktoberfest again this year. I miss biergarten food.
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[16:08:34] <boru> Ein Weiß, ein Breze, ein Hendl!
[16:09:13] <boru> Biergarten chicken is really something special.
[16:09:33] <FatPhil> Ooooh, not the first thing I'd aim for
[16:10:43] <boru> Well, there's the scenery, as well.
[16:11:11] <FatPhil> nurnberger wursts would be a treat right now.
[16:11:43] <boru> Or Schweinzhaxe -- probably my favourite Bavarian dish.
[16:11:57] <boru> But yeah, you can't go wrong with a good Bratwrust or Currywurst.
[16:12:22] <FatPhil> There is a beer garden themed restaurant that does occasionally have good german sausages, we occasionally get lunch from there.
[16:12:36] <FatPhil> (restaurants are closed to eat in, take-away is fine)
[16:12:50] <boru> There was one in Glasgow whilst I worked there for a bit. Absolutely shite.
[16:13:31] <boru> You'll have to get down this neck of the woods some time.
[16:13:39] <FatPhil> (delivery people travelling to 20 restaurants and 20 customers every lunch time is a great way of preventing covid spread, apparently)
[16:14:00] <boru> Ah, I've had whiskey. Let's not get started.
[16:14:10] <FatPhil> I see images of blue and white diamonds ...
[16:15:01] <FatPhil> If I can coordinate with a mate who drives, we'll definitely try to hit Bavaria soon, with the plan being to fill the boot with bottles!
[16:15:16] <FatPhil> But soon might be 15 months away
[16:15:21] <boru> Shouldn't be a problem to do that.
[16:16:04] <FatPhil> We're planning on doing a mail order from Schlenkerla real soon now, as they've made some new beers that we've not had yet, and we don't want to miss out.
[16:16:46] <boru> I've been meaning to do the same, but for whiskey.
[16:17:07] <Sulla> how do you solder really small things
[16:17:15] <boru> And also thinking about driving to .ch to pick up some pipe tobacco from the USA that isn't distributed here.
[16:17:25] <Sulla> what pipe tobacco you want?
[16:17:27] <Sulla> i coudl send you some
[16:17:29] <boru> Depends what you're soldering.
[16:17:38] <boru> That's very kind of you!
[16:17:40] <FatPhil> top tip - don't get old and have shit eyesight.
[16:17:59] <bacterium> hehehe FatPhil
[16:18:13] <boru> C&D Da Vinci is what I'd be going for. Probably one of the best Lat bombs I've smoked.
[16:18:28] <boru> Coarse cut, heavy latakia.
[16:18:43] <boru> Cool, dry pull in the pipe.
[16:18:56] <Sulla> Why cant you buy it in your place?
[16:19:10] <boru> No distributor here, and the import duty is a pain.
[16:19:22] <Sulla> I was soldering the lights from an old hp terminal keyboard onto a modern pcb
[16:19:24] <boru> I'd be paying import from .ch as well.
[16:19:39] <boru> What sort of mount are they? SMD LEDs or some through hole stuff?
[16:19:41] <Sulla> and gravity fucked me and peeled a wire up from the mobo
[16:19:48] <Sulla> ill image it
[16:19:51] <boru> Right oh.
[16:20:01] <Sulla> would you gotta pay import duty if i sent some?
[16:20:41] <boru> Good question. It would depend on the customs guys, I guess. If you sent me 1000 tins, they might open it and think I was trying to pull the wool over their eyes, but 10 tins or something, I might get lucky.
[16:20:52] <boru> I'd be half going to Switzerland for the drive, though.
[16:22:06] <boru> Since you've no solder mask on the board, some solder paste with plenty of flux and a chisel tip would be what I'd go for for SMD, ideally.
[16:22:26] <Sulla> link me to the stuff you are talking about
[16:22:36] <boru> If not, then make sure you're tinning your bit before you go in with it and hold down the part so it doesn't tombstone.
[16:22:58] <boru> Soldering or pipe tobacco?
[16:23:24] <FatPhil> the smooth cool draw of lead solder - sweet!
[16:24:59] <boru> This one: https://www.cornellanddiehl.com
[16:25:00] <systemd> ^ 03tobacco-details
[16:25:31] <boru> I'd settle for their Pirate Kake, either. You can't really get anything like that over here, unless you blend it yourself, which was my alternative.
[16:25:57] <Sulla> https://ibb.co
[16:25:57] <Sulla> https://ibb.co
[16:25:58] <systemd> ^ 03IMG-20210430-092101-003
[16:25:58] <systemd> ^ 03IMG-20210430-092136-066
[16:26:27] <Sulla> never really had much latakia
[16:26:33] <boru> Ah, so through hole.
[16:26:43] <boru> Yeah, latakia is very smokey and very cool.
[16:26:51] <Sulla> i mostly smoke lane 1
[16:26:56] <boru> It's mostly in Irish, English and Balkan blends.
[16:27:00] <Sulla> i'll have ot get some, i really dont like stuff that burns hot
[16:27:20] <boru> You're a cigar smoker, so your missus probably won't hate the latakia so much.
[16:27:24] <Sulla> the hole is where the psb mount led was
[16:27:35] <Sulla> i wish i just had two holes i could solder into
[16:28:07] <boru> Normally, when you get those LEDs, they have long legs on them. You'd push them through as close to the board as possible, then bend the legs the other side so it keeps it in place. Solder it, and then clip the legs with a wire cutter.
[16:29:00] <Sulla> i gotta wire a wire then wire that wire to quick connect
[16:29:40] <boru> Tin the exposed wires before you go in with them.
[16:29:57] <Sulla> assume im dumb and dunno what that is
[16:30:06] <boru> That is, solder some solder onto them, before you try to solder them to something.
[16:30:16] <Sulla> everytime i try to do that the iron just steals it
[16:30:31] <Sulla> cant get solder onto anything but the iron
[16:30:35] <boru> So strip wire, tin the end whether it's multicore or single core, and then solder it some thing.
[16:30:43] <boru> Then it's not hot enough, or you need to clean the tip.
[16:30:49] <Sulla> okay
[16:30:55] <boru> Always tin the bit when you store it.
[16:31:01] <Sulla> solding new switchis in was easy
[16:31:07] <boru> That is, leave solder on the bit.
[16:31:10] <Sulla> but also the bigger
[16:31:11] <boru> And use a water sponge to clean it.
[16:31:24] <boru> Yeah, it gets a bit fiddly on smaller scale.
[16:31:28] <Sulla> okay
[16:31:45] <boru> I normally get the interns to make board mods when it gets too small for my eyesight or shakey hands.
[16:32:01] <Sulla> ill try again tomorrow when i get the quick connects and the 22 gauge wire
[16:32:20] <boru> Sounds reasonable.
[16:32:20] <Sulla> yeah my hands suck
[16:32:29] <Sulla> got this cool desktop light magnifying glass thing so seeing is no prob
[16:32:44] <boru> Heh, I'm normally using a microscope.
[16:33:00] <boru> Those magnifying glasses are great, though.
[16:33:17] <Sulla> so if a 8oz tin would be 32 bucks for me to buy
[16:33:23] <Sulla> is that reasonable?
[16:33:35] <Sulla> our taxes have been going up like crazy recently
[16:33:37] <boru> I have a small little USB microscope for when I'm reversing hardware/firmware as well.
[16:33:44] <boru> Seems a bit steep.
[16:33:51] <boru> Let me get back to you.
[16:34:25] <Sulla> Just wanna make sure if i do it we can get it to you for cheaper than you would pay anyways hah
[16:34:34] <boru> Aye, I'll check that out first.
[16:34:53] <Sulla> i ended up pretty much quitting smoking
[16:34:59] <Sulla> snus is king
[16:35:45] <FatPhil> eyes are very tired
[16:35:51] <FatPhil> read that as "anus is king"
[16:36:02] * boru almost spits whiskey all over the keyboard.
[16:36:06] <Sulla> well at least it has all the same letters
[16:36:36] <boru> Couldn't get the hang of snus.
[16:37:01] <Sulla> Sweedish Match started selling this product called Zyn in the states
[16:37:10] <Sulla> its just a nicotine salt patch that tastes like peppermight
[16:37:11] <boru> Speaking of tobacco, I've got a mason jar of Old Dublin here, still. I'll pack that and go out.
[16:37:15] <Sulla> and doesn't taste fake
[17:04:18] <chromas> Sulla: What kind of solder are you using?
[17:04:50] <chromas> I tried using some unlabeled stuff awhile back that wasn't working; turns out it didn't have the built-in flux core so that's why it only stuck to the iron
[17:27:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Here’s How We’ll Know an AI is Conscious - https://sylnt.us
[17:28:06] <FatPhil> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[17:29:00] <Sulla> "electrical silver bearing rosin core solder" byu bernzomatic
[17:45:15] <Bytram> coffee++
[17:45:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5544
[17:45:52] <Bytram> Ingenuity latest flight results are supposed to be live right now... anyone have a link to a live stream?
[17:46:06] <Sulla> Tried to go get a coffee today but the wait was like 30 minutes, which is way too long for a plain black coffee
[17:49:56] <bacterium> coffee
[17:54:09] <chromas> Bytram: there's this but I don't see any official live threams https://www.youtube.com
[17:54:11] <systemd> ^ 03Live on Mars Helicopter 4th Takeoff & Audio from Mars (Mars 2020 Perseverance Rover & Ingenuity)
[17:54:17] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[17:54:19] <systemd> ^ 03Mars Helicopter Ingenuity’s 3rd flight in 4K for 100 meters distance
[17:54:29] <chromas> oh that one's 5 days old
[17:54:31] <Bytram> TY!
[17:54:39] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[17:54:41] <systemd> ^ 03What Helicopter Ingenuity sees while flying on Mars and Why 4th flight rescheduled
[17:55:20] <pinchy> chile desert weather not cooperating
[17:55:21] <Bytram> =y https://www.youtube.com
[17:55:24] <systemd> Search failed: Couldn't connect to server on handle 55E5953357E0
[17:55:33] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[17:55:34] <systemd> https://youtube.com - NASA’s Ingenuity Mars Helicopter’s Next Steps (Media Briefing) (01:22:15; 18,952 views; 👍2,321 👎52)
[17:55:59] <chromas> hah! pinchy really believe the chile desert is real
[17:56:28] <Bytram> I wonder if prefers it with beans or without?
[18:06:23] <Bytram> https://scitechdaily.com
[18:06:24] <systemd> ^ 03NASA’s Ingenuity Helicopter Failed to Takeoff for Fourth Flight on Mars
[18:06:42] <Sulla> Rip, did they say why?
[18:16:15] <FatPhil> ingenuity? not RIP. some shitty watchdog timer prevented it from even beginning the flight.
[18:16:40] <Sulla> oh thats good
[18:17:36] <FatPhil> I was in charge of the two watchdog timers in the kernel on the phone I use, and when shitty userspace failed to poke me on time *I* got the blame so many times.
[18:18:10] <Sulla> just gotta get gud
[18:19:02] <Sulla> is it a programming issue or is it a hardware failure?
[18:19:41] <FatPhil> it prevented some of the earlier tests and launches too, so it's definitely something
[18:19:43] <Bytram> I have no details on no flight today, but
[18:20:10] <Bytram> it looks like they have added 30 days to their flight plan
[18:20:20] <FatPhil> oooh, good
[18:20:32] <FatPhil> I made a comment on the recent story hoping for that.
[18:20:56] <FatPhil> I love the idea of testing it to its very limits, but get the most of it first
[18:20:57] <Bytram> and the coptor will scout out new paths for the the rover and lead the way
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[18:21:35] <Bytram> it will scout out terrain, identify areas of interest for the rover to explore
[18:22:16] <Bytram> not designed for long term use, so it's a bit iffy as to just how long it can run
[18:22:38] <Bytram> potentially, could last up to a few months(!)
[18:24:09] <Bytram> copter and rover have had better-than-expected S/N ratio -- they expect they could exceed 1 km between them and still maintain comms
[18:25:44] <Bytram> I still have ~40 min to listen to in https://www.youtube.com
[18:25:46] <systemd> ^ 03NASA’s Ingenuity Mars Helicopter’s Next Steps (Media Briefing)
[18:28:35] <Bytram> depending on later assessments, they'll decide whether the later or the copter will lead the science. Month by month, continue to take inventory and decide at each point what to do next.
[18:29:44] <chromas> it's running linux right? probably systemd
[18:30:03] <chromas> I always get two "the watchdog did not stop!" errors on shutdown
[18:30:12] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[18:30:14] <systemd> ^ 03SpaceX cancels Starship flight attempt on Friday [Updated] ( https://arstechnica.com )
[18:30:58] <Sulla> Are spacex threds still full of anti-musk hate or did people get over it?
[18:31:44] <FatPhil> that's not anti-musk hate, that's anti-musk love.
[18:32:03] <Sulla> 3deep5me
[18:32:11] <Bytram> Any plans on max altitude testing? Maybe to 10m, o/w current 5m seems to work great for mapping possible places for the later to later explore
[18:32:19] <chromas> maybe he meant musk fans, hating anti-musker karens
[18:32:32] <Bytram> =w muskrat
[18:32:33] <systemd> The muskrat (Ondatra zibethicus) is a medium-sized semiaquatic rodent native to North America and an introduced species in parts of Europe, Asia, and - https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:32:38] <Bytram> =w muskrat love
[18:32:38] <systemd> &quot;Muskrat Love&quot; is a soft rock song written by Willis Alan Ramsey. The song depicts a romantic liaison between two anthropomorphic muskrats named Susie - https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:32:52] <Bytram> =w muskrat love tenile
[18:32:53] <systemd> [0 results]
[18:33:00] <FatPhil> I ain't no karen. I just think that musk fans are freaking retards.
[18:33:04] <Bytram> =w muskrat love captain
[18:33:04] <systemd> &quot;Muskrat Love&quot; is a soft rock song written by Willis Alan Ramsey. The song depicts a romantic liaison between two anthropomorphic muskrats named Susie - https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:33:17] <Bytram> =w muskrat love captain -willis
[18:33:17] <systemd> the most enduring of which included &quot;Love Will Keep Us Together&quot;, &quot;Do That to Me One More Time&quot;, and &quot;Muskrat Love&quot;. They hosted their own television variety - https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:34:24] <chromas> put your musk on, karen
[18:34:55] <Sulla> CCR did it better
[18:47:45] <Bytram> Maybe go up to 2 minutes at 5 mps so 600m
[18:51:45] <Sulla> have 2gb of free space, isn't enough free space to uninstall programs to make more space
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[19:11:37] <Bytram> https://www.extremetech.com
[19:11:38] <systemd> ^ 03Software Bug Delays Ingenuity Helicopter's 4th Mars Flight - ExtremeTech
[19:12:52] <Bytram> Oh, that's a new report, but of the same failed 4th flight attempt
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[19:46:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China, Russia Open Moon Base Project to International Partners, Early Details Emerge - https://sylnt.us - outta-this-world
[20:25:19] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[20:25:20] <systemd> ^ 03NASA Ingenuity helicopter nears daredevil status with ambitious fourth flight on Mars ( https://www.cnet.com )
[20:34:07] <Bytram> FatPhil: http://feedproxy.google.com
[20:34:08] <systemd> ^ 03NASA Ingenuity helicopter nears daredevil status with ambitious fourth flight on Mars ( https://www.cnet.com )
[20:37:30] <Bytram> https://twitter.com
[20:37:30] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[20:39:41] <Bytram> https://mars.nasa.gov
[20:39:41] <systemd> ^ 03Helicopter Status Updates
[20:40:05] <Bytram> https://mars.nasa.gov
[20:40:05] <systemd> ^ 03Ingenuity Completes Its Fourth Flight
[20:40:14] <Sulla> Feels like Russia and CHina want a space race and we want to just not bother
[20:40:37] <Sulla> could just be that we are doing whatever we want and not bragging tho
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[21:05:35] <bacterium> iss is getting old
[21:05:57] <bacterium> the modules were designed with 15 years life span, they are already overperforming
[21:06:21] <bacterium> it's literally coasting towards disaster now
[21:15:59] <Sulla> Why did the world switch from mechanical switches to rubber dome? was it just cost?
[21:17:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's Ingenuity Helicopter: 2nd Try at Fourth Flight Resounding Success [Updated] - https://sylnt.us - Rotorcraft-on-Mars!
[21:25:26] <FatPhil> switches that carry the current that you wish to switch can have various electromechanical issues - inductance, bouncing, etc..
[21:29:59] <Sulla> but rubber dome are so suck
[21:30:29] <Sulla> currently using one while i'm working my primary keyboard and gives me no motivation to work
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[22:25:08] <chromas> Someone needs to tell Sulla about keyboard with optical switches
[22:27:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Parker Solar Probe Sets New Speed Record -- And it's Not Done Yet - https://sylnt.us
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[23:02:58] <bacterium> i am thinking a covid-is-over party at my house around jun 1
[23:04:48] <bacterium> i think i actually got sick this spring cuza stress, and not hanging out with people made me more depressed and anxious than usual
[23:05:38] <bacterium> been a year since i hit teh dance floor!
[23:05:47] <bacterium> fucking hate this covid shit.......
[23:12:24] <FatPhil> bacterium: did you attend the covid-is-over party last year?
[23:13:19] <FatPhil> that wasn't jun 1, that was jul 1: https://www.bbc.com
[23:13:22] <systemd> ^ 03Coronavirus: Czechs hold 'farewell party' for pandemic
[23:13:31] <FatPhil> Now look at their graphs
[23:17:37] <FatPhil> Alas the Czechs were living in fairy-story-land. They paid for it.
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