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[00:00:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Business with whom? Tencent!
[00:00:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Wanna know who's also a platinum member of the Linux foundation?
[00:00:37] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.linuxfoundation.org
[00:00:38] <systemd> ^ 03Linux Foundation Members - Linux Foundation
[00:00:45] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't think I need to tell you.
[00:00:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Hwawei is also there, by the way.
[00:01:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Yet another collaboration I always get modded down for pointing out.
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[00:37:49] <Runaway1956> LOL @ EF's link - ABC news making apologies for Kelly helping China to infiltrate our tech sector
[00:57:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> says you... https://notthebee.com
[00:57:02] <systemd> ^ 03Apparently, 80 pounds of explosive Tannerite is too much for a gender reveal, as neighbors 20 miles away learned
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[01:09:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes me wish it weren't too far to give these guys my money: https://notthebee.com
[01:09:16] <systemd> ^ 03Check out this insane business-sign WAR that's currently taking over an entire Virginia town
[01:09:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you'll dig this ^^
[01:15:47] * Bytram only saw '***' several times on your link, but it brought me to a more informative site: https://wset.com
[01:16:58] <Bytram> Oh, had to allow javascript... rereading
[01:24:54] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ Yes, I did! TYVM!
[01:24:54] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 432
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[02:56:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - On-Route to the Singularity? Current Vs. Pre-Nanny Acura MDX - https://sylnt.us - they-don't-make-them-like-they-used-to
[02:56:46] <chromas> hm, I probably should've fixed that title
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[03:00:58] <Ethanol-fueled> I've always wondered what it was like to be woke and unprincipled.
[03:01:56] <AzumaHazuki> christ, who keeps leaving this asshole's padded cell unlocked?
[03:01:57] <Ethanol-fueled> turning one's back on the principles one once held to be like an undecisive woman going along with emotions and peer pressure.
[03:02:25] <AzumaHazuki> calm down and have some cat videos, eth https://www.youtube.com
[03:02:28] <systemd> ^ 03Cats Who Cat Trill ("mrrp")! (A Compilation)
[03:03:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Woke people destroyed La Mesa.
[03:03:17] <Ethanol-fueled> An honest, walkable community with small businesses.
[03:04:20] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm going to see to it that every White person cheering on the destruction of our communities,
[03:04:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Insisting on treating us like cattle with masks,
[03:04:40] <AzumaHazuki> aren't you like half Mexican or something?
[03:04:44] <Ethanol-fueled> destroying all of our small business,
[03:04:53] <Ethanol-fueled> will be pointed out, in real life, when the time is right.
[03:04:57] <Ethanol-fueled> and that time will be soon.
[03:06:14] <Ethanol-fueled> (note, this is not a threat, it is directed towards my X-box gaming buddies)
[03:06:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - En Route to the Singularity? Current vs. Pre-Nanny Acura MDX - https://sylnt.us - they-don't-make-them-like-they-used-to
[03:07:08] <Ethanol-fueled> (you know, playfully)
[03:07:48] <AzumaHazuki> uh-huh. and if you expect us to believe that or that you have friends, I'm Sailor Mercury
[03:09:04] <Ethanol-fueled> The less I'm known, the better.
[03:09:25] <AzumaHazuki> a good way not to be known is to keep quiet :)
[03:10:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Quiet enough not to be noticed, charismatic enough to point out who is behind the ills in our society.
[03:11:03] <AzumaHazuki> "charismatic." buddy, you make me look like Shania Twain
[03:11:26] <Ethanol-fueled> charismatic enough to be banned for telling the truth.
[03:11:54] <Bytram> close
[03:11:58] <AzumaHazuki> LOL
[03:11:59] <Ethanol-fueled> not to mention actually being consistent with my principles.
[03:12:14] <AzumaHazuki> sure, if you don't have any it's easy to be consistent with them
[03:12:28] <AzumaHazuki> i just want to know, who hurt you? what made you turn out like this?
[03:13:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Jews did.
[03:13:37] <AzumaHazuki> a little closer to home, I mean. unless you were circumcised forcefully as an adult or something?
[03:13:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Haw.
[03:16:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Someday woke bullshit will be like one of those bad fashion trends like those mushroom haircuts worn in the '90's
[03:17:11] <Ethanol-fueled> The more people die from vaccines, the more people support random attacks against White people and Asians,
[03:17:39] <Ethanol-fueled> People are going to have to justify to somebody with straight faces why they thought it was a good idea...at the time.
[03:18:52] <AzumaHazuki> are you sure your fuel is actually ethanol and not something a bit more, well, neurotoxic? this sounds more like long-term cocaine abuse to me
[03:19:11] <Ethanol-fueled> You don't know shit from shine-ola.
[03:20:31] <AzumaHazuki> ahh...projection, hypocrisy, and stupidity, the holy trinity
[03:20:33] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm going to see to it, in the public meatspace, carefully and tactfully, which demographic was responsible for the destruction of La Mesa. I'm going to see to it that we tie Chinese links to every one of those assholes.
[03:20:53] <AzumaHazuki> good luck with that, but might i suggest a paying job?
[03:21:48] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't need a paying job to do all that, especially while others are losing theirs to lesser-qualified peiople.
[03:23:02] <AzumaHazuki> is that a confession you're sponging off the taxpayer to pull this crap?
[03:23:22] <AzumaHazuki> and/or that your supervisor found you spitting in the mcnugget bin one too many times recently :)
[03:24:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Why are people so afraid of others posting honestly online?
[03:24:29] <Ethanol-fueled> I mean, when you're M.O. is all about silencing people, that just looks insecure as hell.
[03:24:45] <AzumaHazuki> start posting the truth and maybe you'll see why
[03:25:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Good point. It seems that everytime that happens, people get banned for it.
[03:25:45] <Ethanol-fueled> If only people could admit that they don't want to hear the truth,
[03:25:46] <AzumaHazuki> and yet, you're still here. therefore~...?
[03:25:54] <Runaway1956> Some people just won't learn about personal attacks
[03:26:01] <Ethanol-fueled> therefore, people don't want to hear the truth.
[03:26:07] <Runaway1956> Tell TheMightyBuzzard <AzumaHazuki> christ, who keeps leaving this asshole's padded cell unlocked?
[03:26:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Teacher make the bad words go away!
[03:26:36] * Ethanol-fueled raises hand
[03:26:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Teacher teacher Jonny called me a meanie-head!
[03:26:54] <Runaway1956> #tell <AzumaHazuki> christ, who keeps leaving this asshole's padded cell unlocked?
[03:26:54] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[03:26:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Make him go away
[03:27:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahahahah
[03:27:02] <AzumaHazuki> looool
[03:27:08] <AzumaHazuki> even the bot's mocking you now
[03:27:36] <Ethanol-fueled> I have no incentive for having any respect, SN went woke
[03:27:38] <AzumaHazuki> so, are you going to say anything amusing tonight?
[03:27:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I just did,
[03:28:01] * Ethanol-fueled raises hand teacher teacher make the meanie go to the office!
[03:28:03] <AzumaHazuki> er, no, you didn't. look up what the word means
[03:28:45] * Ethanol-fueled raises hand ...teacher, momma, make the bad words go away!
[03:29:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm 25 years old and can't deal with a meanie-head!
[03:29:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, tattle tale =P
[03:29:51] <Ethanol-fueled> And yet you're perfectly fine with rioters and shitbags burning down our cities.
[03:29:52] <AzumaHazuki> how the hell did you survive a quarter of a century?
[03:30:14] <Runaway1956> ;^) Yep
[03:31:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> behave, children. it's been a stressful day and ain't nobody looking for an extra helping tonight.
[03:32:19] <Ethanol-fueled> What is that workplace theory, called the bus theory or something?
[03:32:34] <pinchy> hey ethanol tell us what you think about the vax?
[03:32:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> vms++
[03:32:44] <Bender> karma - vms: 5
[03:32:50] <Ethanol-fueled> If it takes only one shitposter to tank your outfit, your problems go beyond just me.
[03:32:50] <AzumaHazuki> lol, pinchy. i'm not done making the popcorn yet, slow down a bit
[03:32:54] <Runaway1956> The bus theory? If you touch the high voltage bus, you'll get a free new hairdo, if you don't fry to death
[03:33:42] <chromas> bus factor
[03:33:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, 120 is amusing though. grab your buddy and slap live voltage with the back of your knuckles.
[03:33:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck progressives, fuck Antifa, fuck BLM, fuck commies, and last but not least...FUCK JEWS.
[03:34:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, it's that time again. see ya in 24h.
[03:34:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> .kickban Ethanol-fueled
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[03:34:40] * Runaway1956 would rather slap 120 with the buddy - that current flowing in one arm and out the other goes right across your heart
[03:35:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't contact long enough to do much. can't grab if your fingers bend away reflexively.
[03:35:40] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://blogs.sciencemag.org from the buzz-off! dept.
[03:35:43] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Great Malaria Vaccine News" (8p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:35:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> helps to have dry skin though. lotion is deadly.
[03:37:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> everyone wearing thick rubber soles don't hurt matters neither
[03:37:42] * chromas taps a few finish nails into TheMightyBuzzard's soles
[03:38:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> finish nails, what a joke. you still got plenty to do after you're finished with them.
[03:38:38] <Runaway1956> A malaria vaccine sounds like double plus good news
[03:38:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, speciesist!
[03:39:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> why you gotta be keepin the little virus down?!
[03:40:11] <Runaway1956> Snot a virus, it's a parasite - a giant monster compared to a virus
[03:40:43] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[03:40:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> virus, worm, trojan, rat, whatever
[03:41:36] <Runaway1956> Anything that causes a fever is probably bad - unless it's a nubile female
[03:42:04] * Runaway1956 waits for TMB to tell me how bad nubile females are for my health
[03:43:17] <Runaway1956> My default applications have been screwed up with this new install - I keep opening links in the most locked-down browser I have
[03:45:24] <chromas> That's good
[03:45:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[03:45:33] <chromas> You want the default to be the most secure
[03:46:47] <Runaway1956> Not exactly chromas - I want the browser with identifiable information to be the most secure
[03:47:16] <Runaway1956> When I click a link you post, I probably want to see the content
[03:47:31] <Runaway1956> I just don't want the browser to identify me to all the world
[03:50:29] <chromas> Yeah I s'pose
[03:50:48] <chromas> So what desktop environment? matey?
[03:51:11] <Runaway1956> I'm using LXDE - installed several others, haven't logged into any of them
[03:52:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> LXDE made me sad when it finally went GTK3-only
[03:52:54] <chromas> Did nobody fork it?
[03:53:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that i seen
[03:53:17] <chromas> You there! You fork it!
[03:53:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> was only like last month or so
[03:53:35] <chromas> All you have to do is accept other people's PRs ;)
[03:53:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> still annoys the shit outa me how the tooltips are in all the wrong places
[03:53:57] <Runaway1956> Hey, which one of you stole my coffee cup?
[03:54:18] <Runaway1956> And, please don't step on the chocolate covered raisins on the floor . . . .
[03:54:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> =blame
[03:54:21] * systemd points at Bytram
[03:55:07] <AzumaHazuki> blehhh, so many gtk2 things have disappeared out of Gentoo now. Even LXDE feels weird and slow and gross under GTK3
[03:55:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[03:55:22] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[03:55:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5540
[03:55:28] * TheMightyBuzzard mourns the loss
[03:55:55] <chromas> Are you using gtk-mushrooms?
[03:56:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly the panels. the rest you can almost fix with some .gtkrc changes
[03:56:43] <Runaway1956> gtk3 mushrooms or gtk2?
[03:56:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> the panels went from perfect to sucking ass though
[03:57:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> and not hot chick ass, post-sturgis biker ass
[03:57:27] <chromas> 3
[03:57:46] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah - leafpad is missing . . . I did a search, and can't even find it in repos
[03:58:04] <Runaway1956> haven't decided what I want to replace it with
[03:58:04] <chromas> I guess it's gtk3-classic now
[03:58:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> gvim of course
[03:58:32] <Runaway1956> have never used it - from the command line I use nano
[03:58:56] <Runaway1956> guppies are different thought - gooey guppies
[03:59:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't matter, they'll have gtk4 out soon. it's not remotely ready for real world use, so it should be released fairly soon.
[03:59:31] <chromas> ah, the kde4/gnome3 approach
[03:59:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, vim with a gtk winder basically
[04:00:02] <chromas> is there a qt version?
[04:00:09] <Runaway1956> yeah, I got that . . .
[04:00:18] <Runaway1956> how 'bout a python version?
[04:00:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, prolly. qt people are evil and infect everything
[04:00:38] <chromas> qt's still better than gtk3
[04:01:00] * chromas infects Runaway1956's coffee cup
[04:01:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> only in the sense that getting hit in the left testicle is better than getting hit in both.
[04:01:33] <chromas> qt applications encourage configuration instead of removing it
[04:01:54] <Runaway1956> anyone ever used notepadqq ??
[04:02:12] <Runaway1956> supposed to be notepad++ like for linux
[04:02:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, they offer every possible configuration option except "don't look and feel like shit"
[04:02:28] <chromas> so still better than gtk then :D
[04:02:33] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://blogs.sciencemag.org from the knowledge-drives-out-fear dept.
[04:02:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03mRNA Vaccines: What Happens" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:03:04] <chromas> trying it now, Runaway1956. looks okay so far
[04:03:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> gtk2 was the pinacle of graphics toolkits
[04:04:04] <Runaway1956> still installing here - I'm moving kinda slow, and watching for Bytram to try grabbing my coffee cup again
[04:04:24] <chromas> You need a fast pc. Installed in just a couple seconds here
[04:04:44] <chromas> Looks alright. I probably won't move away from kate though
[04:04:56] <Runaway1956> Looks a lot like geany
[04:05:26] <Runaway1956> leafpad was just a stupid notepad like thing
[04:06:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, gentoo it up. still all the leafpad you can stomach here.
[04:06:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, wait, build from tarball!
[04:06:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretend you're on 90s slackware
[04:06:44] <Runaway1956> I could do that . . .
[04:06:56] <chromas> arch has it
[04:07:03] * chromas wags head with maximum snoot
[04:09:06] * Runaway1956 opts for the Debian Genuine Advantage
[04:09:15] <Runaway1956> https://www.linuxquestions.org
[04:09:16] <systemd> ^ 03why is leafpad removed
[04:10:38] <chromas> I can tell that's not a modern site because instead of filling half the screen with a giant photo, they fill it with a bunch of useless tinytext boilerplate
[04:11:23] <Runaway1956> http://ftp.br.debian.org
[04:11:24] <systemd> ^ 03Index of /debian/pool/main/l/leafpad
[04:13:13] <Runaway1956> installed and working
[04:13:32] <chromas> ah, so it's abandonware
[04:13:59] <Runaway1956> Unfortunately, it doesn't remember my most-recently-used etc
[04:14:58] <chromas> in notepadqq?
[04:15:10] <Runaway1956> No, leafpad
[04:15:32] <chromas> oh, I thought that's the one you were already using
[04:15:34] <Runaway1956> notepadqq is more sophisticated than leafpad -
[04:16:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> drinks its tea from a mug instead of a solo cup?
[04:16:07] <Runaway1956> I use geany for those kind of things
[04:16:24] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[04:16:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5541
[04:16:37] <Runaway1956> if they named an editor coffee I would probably use it
[04:16:53] <Runaway1956> if they named an OS coffee, i'd probably use it
[04:17:01] <Runaway1956> and no, Java isn't an OS
[04:17:13] <chromas> There used to be CoffeeCup Software. They made an FTP client and html editor
[04:17:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's coffee-script. "compiles" to javascript.
[04:18:00] <chromas> oh it's still around even
[04:18:32] <chromas> Maxxon used to call its script thinger in Cinema4D COFFEE
[04:18:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> saddens me that no package named covfefe is in the gentoo repos
[04:19:41] <chromas> Make one
[04:20:01] <chromas> That'll be the new name for your GTK2-based LXDE
[04:20:25] <Runaway1956> It should make automatic unintelligible posts to social media that look like Trumpisms
[04:21:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd hafta drop SN dev work to do that
[04:22:18] <chromas> well shit, all those bugs and features you're working on would have to be put off indefinitely
[04:22:20] <Runaway1956> installed tea text editor - opened it up - looked at options and changed the gui to dark looks
[04:22:23] <Runaway1956> it crashed
[04:22:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> obviously they hate dark tea
[04:22:53] <Runaway1956> I guess I can purge it . . .
[04:25:42] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://blogs.sciencemag.org from the be-kind-to-your-kinases dept.
[04:25:50] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03How Antidepressants Work, at Last?" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:25:53] <AzumaHazuki> this. THIS is the kind of information i've been looking for!
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[04:55:15] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.bbc.com from the happy(?)-pills dept.
[04:55:26] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Medications That Change Who We are" (64p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:56:01] <AzumaHazuki> i find one thing from that article particularly interesting: antidepressants seem to make people less neurotic rather than, directly, less depressed. this makes perfect sense, as depression may well be a result of unhealthy rumination and neuroticism
[05:04:24] <chromas> =g atari blockchain
[05:04:25] <systemd> https://www.atarichain.com - Atari Token
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[05:28:14] <bacterium> tea++
[05:28:14] <Bender> karma - tea: 636
[05:49:54] <AzumaHazuki> salad++
[05:49:54] <Bender> karma - salad: 1
[05:50:03] <AzumaHazuki> ...really, no one's done that before?
[05:59:42] <chromas> I thought I did once
[06:13:25] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.bbc.com from the march-to-your-OWN-drummer dept.
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[06:19:11] <chromas> Stupid robot
[06:20:13] <chromas> hm, that link works in the phpoo script
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[06:46:56] <FatPhil> salad--
[06:46:56] <Bender> karma - salad: 0
[06:46:58] <FatPhil> ixed
[06:47:02] <FatPhil> +f
[06:47:37] <AzumaHazuki> why tho
[06:47:47] <AzumaHazuki> tomatoes and cucumbers and vinegar are awesome together
[06:50:06] <FatPhil> pickles++
[06:50:06] <Bender> karma - pickles: 1
[06:52:11] <FatPhil> yesterday's shop included precisely tomatoes, and salty gherks
[06:52:28] <FatPhil> not vinegar, that's crass
[06:52:44] <AzumaHazuki> vinegar is good for you in the right contexts
[06:53:36] <FatPhil> agreed
[06:54:07] <FatPhil> but you can't beat the lactic acid of natural fermentation
[06:54:17] <FatPhil> kimchi++
[06:54:17] <Bender> karma - kimchi: 2
[06:54:25] <FatPhil> sauerkraut++
[06:54:25] <Bender> karma - sauerkraut: 1
[06:54:42] <AzumaHazuki> well, yes. stuff like that is expensive though. i do eat plain nonfat "greek" yogurt several times a week to get the lactobacilli and friends
[06:55:00] <AzumaHazuki> a spritz of stevia and some cinnamon and some vanilla goes really well on it
[06:55:08] <FatPhil> kimchi's pretty easy to make yourself
[06:55:36] <FatPhil> however, it does stink up the fridge a bid
[06:55:46] <AzumaHazuki> not an option for me
[06:55:55] <AzumaHazuki> i'm one of 4 people on the bottom floor here
[06:56:25] <FatPhil> oh, that heads my next suggestion off at the pass
[06:56:40] <AzumaHazuki> homemade kraut?
[06:56:42] <FatPhil> because the outside windowsill is a backup
[06:57:17] <FatPhil> in winter, of course
[06:58:04] <FatPhil> we've never done our own kraut, as it's so cheap to buy here.
[06:58:45] <FatPhil> we did make daikon kimchi as well as the more normal chinese leaf one, thta also worked well
[07:02:14] <Fnord666> Love me some kinchi
[07:03:02] <FatPhil> unforunately, I love it so much, I don't like bad kimchi.
[07:03:29] <Fnord666> Understandable.
[07:04:21] <FatPhil> one of our korean restaurants is run by someone with a highly secretive history.
[07:04:22] <Fnord666> And the next town over from where I live does a sauerkraut festival every year.
[07:04:43] <Fnord666> I got hooked on Kimcgi when I was stationed in Korea
[07:04:53] <FatPhil> we're pretty sure he escaped from North Korea during the soviet times.
[07:04:53] <Fnord666> s/Kimcgi/Kimchi/
[07:04:53] <SedBot> <Fnord666> I got hooked on Kimchi when I was stationed in Korea
[07:05:33] <Fnord666> HAd everything from what the mess hall tried to make to what the korean soldiers that I worked with brought in from home.
[07:06:58] <FatPhil> do you prefer young or old?
[07:07:21] <FatPhil> I was surprised how young some people eat it.
[07:11:03] <Fnord666> I prefer it to have aged a bit.
[07:11:19] <FatPhil> The samsung canteen in suwon probably got through half a tonne of kimchi per day.
[07:11:55] <FatPhil> they have a city within the city
[07:13:12] <AzumaHazuki> that idea itself creeps me out
[07:13:24] <AzumaHazuki> Korea has some of the worst excesses of Japan and somehow manages to make them even worse
[07:15:55] <FatPhil> i did like a lot of the culture there, but there was an elephant in the room.
[07:16:55] <FatPhil> not criticising superiors, and "face" generally, is way too dominant
[07:17:19] * Subsentient gurgles
[07:17:24] <AzumaHazuki> that is very common in Japan and China too. Most, in fact, of Korean and Japanese culture is Chinese
[07:17:37] <FatPhil> shhhhhhhh
[07:17:46] <FatPhil> nobody's allowed to know that
[07:17:56] <AzumaHazuki> they hate that by the way. But i'd say a good 60% of Japanese vocabulary is Han, the Korean "hanbok" means "dress of the Han people," etc
[07:18:13] <FatPhil> absolutely
[07:18:25] <AzumaHazuki> THIS is why the US really, really needs to learn Chinese history, because they're about to become the global superpower and they have a "Chinese exceptionalism" zeitgeist that makes the US look innocent
[07:18:55] <AzumaHazuki> from their point of view, the last few centuries are a fleeting aberration, and they intend to resume their place as masters of the world
[07:18:59] <FatPhil> the USA is just a yappy dog
[07:19:51] <FatPhil> so the US should probably be arming the mongols, and forcing regime change there
[07:25:21] <AzumaHazuki> what we should have done is cut off the flight of capital and labor in the mid 90s, but noooo, greed won out
[07:25:50] <AzumaHazuki> at this point, even containment is an impossibility. all we can really do now is try and divest ourselves from China, and build up our own renewable infrastructure.
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[07:34:28] <Anti-aristarchus> join #editorial
[07:37:55] * FatPhil attempts to telekinetically make coffee
[07:40:00] <Anti-aristarchus> Fine kettle of fish you are making coffee from!
[07:40:48] <FatPhil> fortunately no fish
[07:41:01] <FatPhil> unfortunately, no telekinetic abilities
[07:42:52] <Anti-aristarchus> So what is up with the magically disappearing NCommander? Leaving us FP people rather confused.
[07:43:14] <FatPhil> FatPhil is the only FP person
[07:43:40] <Anti-aristarchus> Fat Page? Front Phil? See, confused.
[07:44:40] <FatPhil> you should join AA
[07:45:51] <AzumaHazuki> Anti-aristarchus, all sorts of weird shit goes on in the background we don't know about
[07:46:35] <AzumaHazuki> the long and short of it is, you know how i've been bitching and moaning about how SN's becoming a RWNJ cesspool, and specifically why it was not only a possibility but an inevitability? NCommander said more or less the same and left
[07:46:38] <Anti-aristarchus> Seems it might affect those of us who only want to, like, submit science news?
[07:46:58] <AzumaHazuki> oh, definitely. SN is now in a state similar to hepatic encephalopathy
[07:47:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pfizer Finds Fake COVID-19 Vaccines in Mexico and Poland - https://sylnt.us
[07:47:18] <AzumaHazuki> with, if something isn't properly done, will progress to the equivalent of multiorgan failure
[07:47:40] <AzumaHazuki> the root of all this is that SN is predicated on a four-year-old's idea of what "free speech" actually means
[07:47:54] <Anti-aristarchus> Totenkopf?
[07:48:18] <AzumaHazuki> we definitely have some members who'd wear a death's-head if they could, yes
[07:49:44] <Anti-aristarchus> Someone has been linking the Mitchell and Webb "Are we the Baddies" skit lately. At least they are not rat's anuses.
[07:51:20] <Subsentient> Speaking of rat's anuses, I've been wishing I could visit this place all day https://www.youtube.com
[07:51:22] <systemd> ^ 03Fred's Downtown Deli - Cyanide & Happiness Shorts
[07:57:38] <AzumaHazuki> hm, just a moment...LXQt just updated a major version, need to restart X
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[08:10:23] <AzumaHazuki> there we are. 0.17 seems to have tightened a lot of things up. hard to say in words exactly but it feels nice. ...and they included my Clearlooks and Leech themes, yay :)
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[13:03:42] <SoyCow7761> Howdy
[13:03:50] <requerdanos> Greetings
[13:04:07] <SoyCow7761> Hmm, trying this again
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[13:04:49] <khallow> Sorry, forgot to change my name to warn the others.
[13:05:03] <khallow> Howdy again
[13:05:13] <requerdanos> Same greetings, recycled
[13:25:27] <FatPhil> Howdy khallow.
[13:35:22] <khallow> Well, the IRC logs server somehow mangles urls. I tried making a link to some IRC chat and ended up with the same mangled link as c0lo had.
[13:35:34] <khallow> making a link in a SN post
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[15:14:29] <FatPhil> greetings zu
[16:00:20] <FatPhil> ahhh, saturday sauna, and life is good.
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[20:30:21] <khallow> Yo
[20:36:35] <FatPhil> Hyvää yötä
[20:37:52] <FatPhil> we don't have any czech speakers on-chan, do we?
[20:38:07] <chromas> Not last time I czeched
[20:40:47] <FatPhil> sipping on a wonderful subtly-spiced czech mead, and want to know what a couple of words on the label mean.
[20:49:55] <chromas> gonna have to use google translate on your phone
[20:56:07] <Bytram> g "Hyvää yötä"
[20:56:13] <Bytram> =
[20:56:20] <Bytram> =g "Hyvää yötä"
[20:56:21] <systemd> https://en.bab.la - HYVÄÄ YÖTÄ - Translation in English - bab.la
[20:57:10] <Bytram> ==> "good night"
[20:58:16] <Bytram> Apparently, that is a translation from Finnish->English
[21:01:55] <Bytram> FatPhil: If you can type a copy of the word(s) from the label here, would be happy to help!
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[21:09:11] <FatPhil> "Na Zahrati" where there's a hacek on the 'r'. We think it might be something to do with warming given other words that seem to share a stem.
[21:09:55] <FatPhil> there are acute accents on the 'a' and 'i' in that word too.
[21:10:56] <FatPhil> Is it trying to imply that the spices will warm the drinker up, or is it an instruction to the drinker to warm the mead up!
[21:11:03] <Bytram> =g hacek
[21:11:04] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - HACEK organisms - Wikipedia
[21:11:31] <FatPhil> a.k.a. caron
[21:11:41] <FatPhil> hacek has a hacek!
[21:11:43] <Bytram> Or... that the spices in the mead will warm up the user?
[21:11:59] <Bytram> =g "hat check"
[21:11:59] <systemd> https://restaurant-ingthroughhistory.com - Check your hat | Restaurant-ing through history
[21:12:21] <Bytram> =w "hat check" hockey
[21:12:22] <systemd> &quot;social buds&quot;, who came to Brown dances and checked their corsets with the hat-check attendant. The editorial provoked replies and received a whole page of - https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:12:30] <Bytram> =w "hat trick" hockey
[21:12:31] <systemd> A hat-trick or hat trick is the achievement of a generally positive feat three times in a game, or another achievement based on the number three. The term - https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:14:52] <Bytram> =g hacek symbol
[21:14:53] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Caron - Wikipedia
[21:15:11] <Bytram> oh! a "hat"
[21:15:44] <Bytram> nope!
[21:16:09] <Bytram> more like: \/ on top of the letter
[21:16:27] <Bytram> need to run an errand. back in a bit
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[21:17:06] <khallow> howdy again
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[22:19:49] <Bytram> "Na Zahřati"
[22:20:01] <Bytram> =g acute accent
[22:20:02] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Acute accent - Wikipedia
[22:21:31] <Bytram> =g "Na Záhřatí"
[22:21:31] <systemd> https://www.tripadvisor.com - Na zahřátí nejlepší Jukgejang - Picture of Mori Restaurant & Lounge ...;
[22:22:11] <Bytram> =g "Na zahřátí" beer
[22:22:11] <systemd> https://naturespromise.cz - Snídaně na zahřátí? - Nature's Promise
[22:23:19] <Bytram> =g "Na zahřátí" beer english
[22:23:20] <systemd> https://www.instagram.com - Laura Coffee Pražírna (@kafelaura) • Instagram photos and videos
[22:23:37] <Bytram> =g "Na zahřátí" english
[22:23:38] <systemd> https://www.tripadvisor.com - Na zahřátí nejlepší Jukgejang - Picture of Mori Restaurant & Lounge ...;
[22:23:48] <Bytram> =g "Na zahřátí" english -restaurant
[22:23:49] <systemd> https://www.instagram.com - BuFu Brothers. (@bufu_bros) • Instagram photos and videos
[22:24:03] <Bytram> =g "Na zahřátí" english -restaurant translate
[22:24:03] <systemd> https://lyricstranslate.com - WayV - Bad Alive lyrics + Czech translation
[22:24:54] <Bytram> FatPhil: sorry. got some leads but not having any luck. Need to push out some stories now.
[22:24:56] <Bytram> laters
[22:29:49] <Bytram> =w "ad hominem"
[22:29:50] <systemd> Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person'), short for argumentum ad hominem, refers to several types of arguments, some but not all of which are fallacious - https://en.wikipedia.org
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[23:21:42] <Bytram> =g temperature of the sun
[23:21:44] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Sun - Wikipedia