#soylent | Logs for 2021-04-18

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[00:33:37] <FatPhil> My favourite is "Fuck shit up, and destroy the evidence".
[01:20:03] <Bytram> https://mars.nasa.gov
[01:20:03] <systemd> ^ 03Working the Challenge: Two Paths to First Flight on Mars
[01:21:48] <Bytram> ^^^ latest blog post.
[01:22:25] <Bytram> Any updates would appear on NASA's Ingenuity blog at: https://mars.nasa.gov
[01:22:26] <systemd> ^ 03Helicopter Status Updates
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[01:42:59] <Bytram> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[01:43:01] <systemd> βœ“ Sub-ccess! "03Dogecoin Has Risen 400 Percent in the Last Week Because Why Not" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:43:14] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:14] <Bender> karma - tulips: 1
[01:43:17] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:17] <Bender> karma - tulips: 2
[01:43:18] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:18] <Bender> karma - tulips: 3
[01:43:18] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:19] <Bender> karma - tulips: 4
[01:43:19] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:19] <Bender> karma - tulips: 5
[01:43:19] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:19] <Bender> karma - tulips: 6
[01:43:22] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:22] <Bender> karma - tulips: 7
[01:43:24] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:24] <Bender> karma - tulips: 8
[01:43:27] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:27] <Bender> karma - tulips: 9
[01:43:29] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:29] <Bender> karma - tulips: 10
[01:43:32] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:32] <Bender> karma - tulips: 11
[01:43:34] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:34] <Bender> karma - tulips: 12
[01:43:37] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:37] <Bender> karma - tulips: 13
[01:43:39] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:39] <Bender> karma - tulips: 14
[01:43:42] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:42] <Bender> karma - tulips: 15
[01:43:44] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:44] <Bender> karma - tulips: 16
[01:43:47] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:47] <Bender> karma - tulips: 17
[01:43:49] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:49] <Bender> karma - tulips: 18
[01:43:52] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:52] <Bender> karma - tulips: 19
[01:43:54] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:54] <Bender> karma - tulips: 20
[01:43:57] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:57] <Bender> karma - tulips: 21
[01:43:59] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:43:59] <Bender> karma - tulips: 22
[01:44:02] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:44:02] <Bender> karma - tulips: 23
[01:44:04] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:44:04] <Bender> karma - tulips: 24
[01:44:07] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:44:07] <Bender> karma - tulips: 25
[01:44:09] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:44:09] <Bender> karma - tulips: 26
[01:44:12] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:44:12] <Bender> karma - tulips: 27
[01:44:14] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:44:14] <Bender> karma - tulips: 28
[01:44:17] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:44:17] <Bender> karma - tulips: 29
[01:44:19] <FatPhil> tulips++
[01:44:19] <Bender> karma - tulips: 30
[01:44:22] <FatPhil> that's not exponential growth
[01:47:00] <Bytram> What id, for every time you tulip++, someone else joins in and does the same
[01:48:21] <Bytram> https://www.cnn.com
[01:48:23] <systemd> ^ 03Actor Felix Silla, famously known for his role as Cousin Itt on 'The Addams Family,' dies at 84
[01:51:52] <FatPhil> I was hoping for exponential growth
[02:00:39] <Bytram> FatPhil: Would my suggestion not succeed at doing that?
[02:01:04] <Bytram> You do tulips++
[02:01:18] <Bytram> You do tulips++ again
[02:01:53] <Bytram> I see your tulips++ and add my own tulips++
[02:03:35] <Bytram> Then you tulips++, which I see and add my own tulips++, which in turn TMB sees, and adds yet another tulips++
[02:04:42] <Bytram> Then you tulips++, which I see and add my own tulips++, which TMB sees, and adds yet another tulips++, which Fnord666 sees and adds his own tulips++
[02:07:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nvidia Enters the Arms Race with Homegrown "Grace" CPUs - https://sylnt.us
[02:26:49] <AzumaHazuki> all i can think of is "whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad [insane, not angry]" and applying this to things like cryptocoins and especially NFTs
[02:27:03] <AzumaHazuki> is this an admission our entire monetary milieu is a fraud, built on nothing?
[02:42:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's built on agreement. always has been, always will be. if nobody agrees gold has any value, it replaces lead as fishing weight material.
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[02:43:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto whatever currency you wanna talk about. dollars, yen, rubles, nuka cola caps...
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[02:43:58] <hemocyanin> JOIN #editorial
[02:44:04] <hemocyanin> lol
[02:44:06] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[02:44:07] * TheMightyBuzzard passes hemocyanin a /
[02:44:07] <systemd> https://youtube.com - First Flight of the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter: Live from Mission Control (00; 0 views; πŸ‘1,341 πŸ‘Ž17)
[02:48:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://babylonbee.com
[02:48:26] <systemd> ^ 03Heavenly Streets Of Gold To Be Upgraded To Dogecoin
[03:29:56] <Fnord666> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[03:29:58] <systemd> ^ 03Arkansas House passes unconstitutional bill putting creationism in schools ( https://arstechnica.com )
[03:34:08] <AzumaHazuki> ever notice Republicans only give a shit about the constitution when it suits their purposes?
[03:34:18] <AzumaHazuki> huge surprise, i know :v
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[05:27:37] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com from the braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiinnssss dept.
[05:27:42] <systemd> βœ“* Sub-ccess! "08'Zombie' Genes? Research Shows Some Genes Come to Life in the Brain After Death: Post-mortem Changes" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:29:57] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com from the Hey-McLeod-Get-Off-My-Ewe! dept.
[05:29:59] <systemd> βœ“ Sub-ccess! "03Biology Behind Homosexuality in Sheep, Study Confirms" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:19:39] * chromas munches tiramisu cheesecake; doesn't share with the rest of the class
[06:56:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Says its Mars Helicopter is Ready for a Historic First Flight on Monday - https://sylnt.us - most-expensive-remote-controlled-copter-in-the-solar-system
[07:03:19] <chromas> I've seen bigger
[08:21:56] <c0lo> tulips--
[08:21:56] <Bender> karma - tulips: 29
[08:24:02] <c0lo> Arkansas++ because constitution is shit if not challenged in SCotUS.
[08:24:02] <Bender> karma - arkansas: 1
[08:38:30] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[08:38:32] <systemd> βœ“* Sub-ccess! "08β€˜Single-use Plastics’ to be Phased Out in Australia From 2025 Include Plastic Utensils and Straw" (24p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:40:39] <AzumaHazuki> mmh...another thing the instant pot is good for, quick bone broth. 2 hours is enough to extract from beef bone scraps, and you get less glutamate than with the stove or crockpot too
[08:42:18] <AzumaHazuki> this is going to be awesome for making rice and barley in
[08:43:09] <c0lo> =submit double-leprechaun https://www.irishtimes.com
[08:43:14] <systemd> βœ“ Sub-ccess! "03Google Used β€˜double-Irish’ to Shift $75.4bn in Profits Out of Ireland" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:43:59] <c0lo> =submit https://www.axios.com
[08:44:01] <systemd> βœ“ Sub-ccess! "03U.S. and China Agree to Cooperate on Climate Action, but Details Remain to be Negotiated" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:44:57] <c0lo> =submit quick-blame-biden https://apnews.com
[08:44:59] <systemd> βœ“ Sub-ccess! "03US West Prepares for Possible 1st Water Shortage Declaration" (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:45:29] <chromas> I remember US West
[08:45:40] <chromas> But then it became Qwest I think
[08:46:46] <c0lo> =submit https://www.thetimes.co.uk
[08:46:49] <systemd> βœ“ Sub-ccess! "03British Warships Head for Black Sea as Russian Troops Mass on Ukrainian Border" (4p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:48:12] <c0lo> =submit https://kstp.com
[08:48:14] <systemd> βœ“* Sub-ccess! "08Federal Judge Grants Restraining Order Stopping Minnesota Law Enforcement From Arresting, Using Forc" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:48:41] <c0lo> ^^^ against journos
[08:50:08] <c0lo> =submit https://www.commondreams.org
[08:50:13] <systemd> βœ“ Sub-ccess! "03'the Status Quo is Failing': 36 Progressive Groups Demand Pentagon Cuts" (28p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:51:45] <chromas> Need to cut NSA funding
[08:51:57] <chromas> Hm, there's a van outside
[08:55:05] <AzumaHazuki> everything's kind of accelerating and happening all at once, huh? positive feedback loops are a bitch
[09:04:10] <c0lo> it's gone now chromas. They just installed a camera coupled to face recognition
[09:04:50] <chromas> How do you know? Are you NSA?
[09:05:01] <c0lo> =submit https://www.technologyreview.com
[09:05:04] <systemd> βœ“ Sub-ccess! "03The New Lawsuit That Shows Facial Recognition is Officially a Civil Rights Issue" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:05:32] <chromas> New South wAles
[09:06:31] <c0lo> chromas, they weren't even NSA, they were Google.
[09:06:39] <boru> Confirmed 5 eyes.
[09:08:18] <chromas> GπŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘gle
[09:09:12] <boru> What is that unicode stuff? No glyphs for it here.
[09:09:26] <boru> Or are you using UTF16 or some such?
[09:10:48] <c0lo> https://unicode-table.com copy/paste
[09:10:52] <systemd> ^ 03πŸ‘ - Eye Emoji: U+1F441
[09:11:01] <boru> Ah.
[09:11:47] <boru> On an unrelated note, I'm trying to fix one of my irssi scripts. Can one of you construct an elaborate sentence with my nick in it, please?
[09:12:04] <boru> You will be rewarded with my eternal gratitude.
[09:12:27] <c0lo> defibrillate them fuckers https://www.thedenverchannel.com
[09:12:28] <systemd> ^ 03Police use Taser twice on Marine veteran in Colorado Springs hospital room
[09:12:43] <chromas> πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘
[09:12:43] <chromas> πŸ‘πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ boru πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘
[09:13:31] <boru> Not _that_ elaborate; can you try without the unicode, please?
[09:14:51] <chromas> Although the boru monitor is manufactured with very high precision technology with over 99.99% effective pixels, there may be a few dead pixels displaying only black or red, etc. among the remaining 0.01% or less pixels.
[09:15:02] <boru> Perfect, thank you.
[09:15:03] * c0lo can't stand eternal gratitude. And threats
[09:15:50] <boru> It's only partially fixed, feh.
[09:16:10] * chromas threatens c0lo with a stand of eternal gratitude
[09:17:27] <chromas> Do you need more boru strings? Perhaps some with the ebcdic or utf-64
[09:17:32] * c0lo et tu, chromas? boru just did it not 10 minutes ago
[09:17:56] <boru> UTF-17, and please use Base 60 encoding.
[09:18:19] <boru> Buggeration. It doesn't work for /me either.
[09:18:41] <boru> I swear the irssi APIs changed silently between versions...
[09:19:01] <chromas> Do /mes come in as a different message type in irssi?
[09:19:08] <c0lo> =submit https://spacenews.com
[09:19:10] <systemd> βœ“* Sub-ccess! "08DoD Space Agency: Cyber Attacks, Not Missiles, are the Most Worrisome Threat to Satellites - SpaceNe" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:19:55] <chromas> What about cyber attacks turning satellites into missiles firing at other satellites?
[09:20:11] <c0lo> Who thought it's a clever idea to connect satellites to Internet?
[09:20:30] <chromas> CIA probably
[09:20:36] <boru> They don't need to be. All you need is a radio and an antenna.
[09:20:56] <boru> Some satellites use really poor encryption on their uplinks, or don't protect against things like replay attacks.
[09:21:04] <chromas> Is it cyber without internet or at least an RTTY?
[09:21:23] <c0lo> (grin)
[09:21:26] <boru> Cybers are made of photons, silly.
[09:21:36] <chromas> What about Khybers?
[09:21:41] <boru> So these are just wireless cybers.
[09:21:54] <chromas> Powered by AC LEDs
[09:21:55] <c0lo> What about space gap?
[09:22:04] <boru> What do you mean?
[09:22:23] <chromas> Looks justified
[09:22:39] <boru> Very clever.
[09:23:00] <c0lo> =w Zero-width space
[09:23:01] <systemd> The zero-width space (​), abbreviated ZWSP, is a non-printing character used in computerized typesetting to indicate word boundaries to text processing - https://en.wikipedia.org
[09:23:24] <c0lo> I'll insert one once boru fixes his scripts.
[09:23:52] <boru> I've given up. It's partially fixed, the rest can wait until tomorrow.
[09:23:54] <chromas> Looks like you already did
[09:24:06] <chromas> or at least something that wasn't rendered zero-width
[09:24:30] <c0lo> Like a double space?
[09:24:50] <boru> Yeah, two 0x20s
[09:25:49] <chromas> Ah, and it wasn't even after a period
[09:26:08] <boru> Calm down, Donald Knuth.
[09:27:32] <boru> On that note: https://i1.wp.com
[09:28:35] <chromas> lol
[09:29:24] <chromas> A laugh so loud it typed itself into irc
[09:30:35] <boru> That constitutes a wireless cybers attack using weaponised pressure waves.
[09:30:44] <boru> Next thing you'll be laughing satellites out of orbit.
[09:31:53] <chromas> If they wanted to keep them sky high, they should've tied them to a blockchain
[09:32:37] * chromas launches StarHodl
[09:36:33] <c0lo> Careful, chromas, zuck is after you.
[09:36:39] <c0lo> https://www.theguardian.com
[09:36:40] <systemd> ^ 03Mark Zuckerberg, the modern Bond villain, is now coming for your children
[09:37:27] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[09:37:29] <systemd> βœ“ Sub-ccess! "03Founder of Adobe and Developer of PDFs Dies at Age 81" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:38:11] <chromas> Will his formatting be preserved or will each person at his funeral see him just a bit differently?
[09:39:43] <chromas> Also anyone speaking at his service should totally add a PS onto their speech
[09:43:16] <c0lo> Depends if he embedded the fonts or not.
[09:44:23] <c0lo> EPS: encapsulation in a coffin container
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[10:20:14] <c0lo> 19 seconds? That's a longstop
[10:30:16] <Ingar> chromas: to see the formatting correctly, you have to subscribe to the Adobe Afterlife Cloud for only 19$/month
[10:31:12] <Ingar> only members can attend the funeral ofc
[10:42:44] <c0lo> Don't die sooner than the membership expires, Ingar https://www.laptopmag.com
[10:42:45] <systemd> ^ 03Adobe cancellation fee sparks Twitter rage
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[10:58:42] <FatPhil> Apparently I'm unable to attend his funeral, throughno fault of my own.
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[11:17:48] <FatPhil> yes, I did just stick a middle <fi-ligature>nger up at a dead man, sue me.
[11:33:41] <c0lo> Hey, FatSue, how's goin'?
[11:34:44] <FatPhil> Curly
[11:35:00] <FatPhil> and it's gone to pot.
[11:35:13] <FatPhil> yourself?
[11:36:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Folding at Home - Have Soylentils Abandoned? - https://sylnt.us
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[11:40:49] <c0lo> Gotta get some sleep, bax killin' me. I'll probs watch for nice curves one of these days.
[11:41:45] <c0lo> next bond moovie https://www.bbc.com
[11:41:46] <systemd> ^ 03Salisbury poisoning suspects 'linked to Czech blast'
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[12:18:58] <FatPhil> got some new czech beers in my fridge, I hope they're not poisoned
[12:23:34] <FatPhil> fricken BBC messin us about. The morning session yesterday wasn't even broadcast, and the afternoon session that should have been available at about 2 didn't appear until midnight.
[12:23:49] <FatPhil> now watching yesterday's evening session.
[12:48:13] <Bytram> =g ST:NG "Q"
[12:48:14] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org(Star_Trek) - Q (Star Trek) - Wikipedia
[13:14:11] <c0lo> Do they steal teech literassy in united states or just cannibalism? https://pbs.twimg.com
[13:25:13] <AzumaHazuki> it's been nonstop cannibalism since reagan
[13:27:07] <FatPhil> I miss President Romero
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[13:57:52] <chromas> Haven't seen that movie in a hundred years
[13:58:10] <chromas> =g curly sue
[13:58:11] <systemd> https://www.imdb.com - Curly Sue (1991) - IMDb
[14:06:35] <Runaway1956> when is a racist a racist?
[14:06:37] <Runaway1956> https://redstate.com
[14:06:38] <systemd> ^ 03RedState
[14:09:42] <Bytram> chromas++ thank Q
[14:09:42] <Bender> karma - chromas: 344
[14:10:30] <chromas> Runaway1956: Why wouldn't a racist hire a racist tho?
[14:11:00] * chromas rolls around in his karmas; makes a karma angel
[14:11:30] <Bytram> afraid that they'd be prejudiced against them somehow?
[14:12:46] <Bytram> people tend to project their own shortcomings onto other people's thinking and actions
[14:14:07] <chromas> Well she is a black African American female woman of color. I wonder if he's put any of her brothers or other family in prison :)
[14:14:52] <Bytram> "female woman" ??
[14:15:12] <chromas> also black African American of color
[14:15:15] <chromas> Duplicate redundancy
[14:15:30] <Bytram> (++)++
[14:15:30] <Bender> karma - (++): 1
[14:16:01] <chromas> "she co-authored an article that compared the genetics of Blacks and Whites and as the leader of Harvard's Black Students' Association where she invited an anti-Semitic author for a speaking engagement. "
[14:16:05] <chromas> wel'p, string 'er up
[14:16:57] <chromas> Oh, it was a satire. Never mind. "It WaS a JoKe"
[14:30:49] <Runaway1956> *sigh*
[14:30:57] <Runaway1956> I'm thinking about reinstalling system
[14:31:08] <chromas> Wondows?
[14:31:20] <Runaway1956> Nahhhhh, linux
[14:31:41] <Runaway1956> sound is borked, vidya driver keeps messing up -
[14:32:07] * Runaway1956 really needs a good reliable UPS to prevent power outage problems
[14:32:31] <chromas> Did you do any updates you hadn't rebooted for?
[14:32:56] <Runaway1956> no, something corrupted somewhere, stuff is just not right
[14:33:48] <Runaway1956> I'm kinda thinking about installing Sid - has all the latest of everything,
[14:34:45] <Runaway1956> mainstream of distro is still at kernel 4.9 I think
[14:35:12] <chromas> Ancient
[14:35:30] <Runaway1956> have to install your kernel, then install your video, then update/upgrade compiler, on and on it goes
[14:35:53] <chromas> Weird. Glad I'm not using the Debians then
[14:35:59] <Runaway1956> I'm sure Sid is moved past the 5.0 kernel
[14:38:20] <Runaway1956> gonna boot to a couple different ISOs and look around - there's a Sid x64 and a Sid runit x64
[14:38:42] <Runaway1956> runit obviously uses runit, the other might be systemd or it might be sysv
[14:39:15] <Runaway1956> mainstream was sysv last time I looked
[14:39:34] <chromas> If we could get Poettering to move on to something else, we could probably replace systemd in a few years like pulseaudio :D
[14:39:37] <Runaway1956> SysV init version: 2.93
[14:40:07] <chromas> although systemd is his kitchen sink. Wouldn't be surprised to see pulseaudio integrated into it if people weren't throwing it out now
[14:41:38] <Runaway1956> People throwing out systemd or throwing out pulse?
[14:41:42] <chromas> pulse
[14:41:53] <chromas> pipewire is the new hotness
[14:42:03] <Runaway1956> dam, I thought for a moment there was a growing movement against systemd
[14:42:18] <chromas> integrates its own pulseaudio server with jack and alsa, so all programs using any system can connect together
[14:42:38] <Runaway1956> is it reliable?
[14:42:47] <chromas> it's getting there
[14:42:52] <c0lo> chromas, duplicate redundancy is redundundandancy.
[14:43:09] <chromas> c0lo++
[14:43:09] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 33
[14:43:19] * chromas needs to increment people more often
[14:43:54] <chromas> It's been mostly working for me, although switching outputs (say, from 6-channel anal og to s/pdif) causes issues sometimes
[14:43:56] <Runaway1956> chromas needs to people more often
[14:44:33] <Runaway1956> alsa never seems to figure out which device to send sound to, and sometimes doesn't send it anywhere
[14:45:48] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah - my other problem is USB - for some reason my USB wants to run at a couple hundred k/s instead of m/s
[14:46:03] <Runaway1956> transferring a large file is an hours long process
[14:47:04] <chromas> Are they Chinesium fakes?
[14:48:11] <Runaway1956> well the hub is made in china, but it operated at m/s for a long time before the system decided to use USB1 instead of USB2 or 3
[14:48:50] <chromas> That's Jesus' way of telling you to install systemd for the latest udev
[14:49:11] <Runaway1956> Jesus needs to stay in the yard with his landscaping
[14:56:11] <Runaway1956> fortunately, file transfer this morning is ~20 m/s
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[14:56:44] <GD> okay..now it works
[14:56:54] <GD> hello!
[14:57:21] <Runaway1956> hi
[14:57:27] <Runaway1956> you're online
[14:57:27] <GD> :)
[14:57:31] <GD> yay
[14:57:37] <Runaway1956> your microphone is live
[14:57:40] <GD> I disabled SSL :p
[14:58:00] <Runaway1956> don't say anything you might be canceled for next year
[14:58:02] <GD> okay then .. you did not hear that just now
[14:58:13] <GD> let's all pretend and move on
[14:58:14] <chromas> You can use SSL but you need a different port
[14:58:30] <Runaway1956> ssl goes in the other pot
[14:58:51] <GD> clients assume SSL, connection closes with no message. so nice..
[14:59:20] <chromas> Try post 6669
[14:59:25] <chromas> s/s/r/
[14:59:25] <SedBot> <chromas> Try port 6669
[14:59:28] <GD> thanks Chromas
[15:00:00] <GD> so irc can't detect and retry like http/s
[15:00:08] <GD> or clients don't..
[15:01:04] <GD> I really liked the Death Note article
[15:01:34] <Runaway1956> GD really likes weird stuff, lol
[15:01:49] <GD> specialty, I've thought about Kira's mistakes for a while. It was good to see a writeup on it
[15:01:58] <GD> Oh you have no idea
[15:02:10] <GD> Don't ask about the Hobbies.
[15:02:15] <Runaway1956> no worries, everyone around here is weird
[15:04:45] <GD> After putting it off, I finally started to learn and use Python recently. Yes. That is weird. I still look at python code and wonder how they call it "beautiful"
[15:04:57] <GD> must be in the eye of the beholder
[15:06:35] <GD> that or some people really like reading in columns up and down.
[15:07:41] <Runaway1956> Huh - downloading ISOs and my download speed is only reaching 400 KB/s
[15:08:19] <GD> http or torrent?
[15:08:37] <Runaway1956> http - but it uses Aria2
[15:08:45] <Runaway1956> so, usually better than torrent
[15:09:14] <chromas> Are you using a USB network adapter?
[15:09:23] <Runaway1956> you probably don't know - I'm in outback nowhere, my DSL connection is only 15 MB on the best of days
[15:09:36] <chromas> Can you get cable internet there?
[15:09:52] <Runaway1956> no, DSL is the best I can get right now
[15:09:59] <Runaway1956> next year or so, I can get fiber
[15:10:08] <chromas> Kickass
[15:10:10] <GD> ahh DSL .. I remember the days..
[15:10:21] <GD> google fibre?
[15:10:21] <Runaway1956> in fact, the wife just pre-registered two days ago for it
[15:10:28] <chromas> You're gonna download so many Linux ISOs
[15:10:30] <Runaway1956> no, google not coming out here
[15:10:43] <Runaway1956> the electric coop is putting it in
[15:10:51] <GD> someone overturned the greedy council laws preventing multiple isps?
[15:11:07] <GD> ... didn't they make that kind of thing... illegal?
[15:11:13] <GD> in the US
[15:11:52] <Runaway1956> Not in Arkansas - the coop finally decided no one is doing anything, so they're doing it
[15:12:10] <Runaway1956> There are still people not far from me with dial up or nothing
[15:12:21] <GD> yay
[15:12:44] <GD> that's so sad in this day and age
[15:12:55] <GD> normal for country areas though
[15:12:57] <Runaway1956> I'm out of here for awhile - ISO's are downloaded and transferred where I need them
[15:13:23] <GD> what ISP wants to pay for that final mile to a house km from anything
[15:13:44] <GD> good luck with your fiber
[15:14:25] <Runaway1956> I did the math some months ago - I could bring fiber from Texas to my house for a couple million dollars - then sell fiber connection to those who got in the way
[15:14:40] <Runaway1956> pay for itself in about 18 months if 50% bought in
[15:14:45] <Runaway1956> later
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[15:26:02] <GD> time to start an ISP...
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[15:45:37] <c0lo> https://www.nytimes.com
[15:45:39] <systemd> ^ 03Least Vaccinated U.S. Counties Have Something in Common: Trump Voters
[15:46:58] <c0lo> Darwin award contenders aplenty.
[15:47:07] <FatPhil> surprise coefficient negative
[15:48:00] <FatPhil> then again, I'd not say Darwin contenders - I'd bet they're good churchgoing sociopaths with 6 children already
[15:48:36] <FatPhil> and the death rate it so low anyway.
[15:52:44] <c0lo> "It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks, and become one with all the people. Chairman Sheng-ji Yang"
[15:54:05] <FatPhil> tanks as in vats?
[15:54:29] <FatPhil> mentioning soylent green would be racist at this point, wouldn't it?
[15:56:08] <c0lo> That's News to me
[15:56:40] <chromas> Common misconception. It was actually Soylent Cyan.
[16:25:11] <chromas> FatPhil: Were you the one who got the spurious unfriended notification on SN?
[16:25:41] <chromas> I was just noticing the person I got the same notice from is still Friends, so I dunno why I got said notice.
[16:26:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jump in Cancer Diagnoses at 65 Implies Patients Wait for Medicare, According to Stanford Study - https://sylnt.us
[16:32:27] <FatPhil> chromas: I got a notification , but didn't check the status, as I presumed nothing would be there
[16:35:41] <FatPhil> indeed, not in any of my lists
[16:36:19] <Bytram> FatPhil: I've got a couple minutes...
[16:36:20] <chromas> I only noticed because I was still getting journal entry notifications
[16:36:42] <Bytram> chromas: or you can join in
[16:36:58] <chromas> I'm already here
[16:37:52] <Bytram> looks like you have me tagged as a friend?
[16:38:07] <chromas> Probably
[16:38:25] <chromas> πŸ‘ You Liked this
[16:39:07] <Bytram> look like I have you as a friend
[16:41:01] <Bytram> chromas: I just removed the friend relationship to you. May take a few minutes for the system to send you a notice.
[16:42:52] <FatPhil> let's all hate on chromas!
[16:43:12] <Bytram> nah, I'd hate to do that!
[16:45:30] <Bytram> whereto? https://l.instagram.com
[16:45:55] <Bytram> whereto? https%3A%2F%2Famyallen.lnk.to%2Fone&e=ATPed38aAfrcWCvLgSh6JLJLJb0oxIpXSL3YlyTcxHMlfsXuv4jh2Uuoqx9JQSpJR6cC82uskk4IyUbR&s=1
[16:46:32] <Bytram> whereto? https:://amyallen.lnk.to/one&e=ATPed38aAfrcWCvLgSh6JLJLJb0oxIpXSL3YlyTcxHMlfsXuv4jh2Uuoqx9JQSpJR6cC82uskk4IyUbR&s=1
[16:46:39] <Bytram> whereto? https://amyallen.lnk.to
[16:46:40] <systemd> ^ 03One
[16:48:01] <chromas> https://amyallen.lnk.to
[16:48:02] <systemd> ^ 03One
[16:48:47] <chromas> Yeah, I tried friending & unfriending upstart to see if it would do anything. Many hours later (a couple days I think) two messages appeared
[16:53:15] <Bytram> chromas: I remember diving into the code for slashd which acts like a cron service. Got it sorted out, eventually, but was so long ago, I don't remember the details any more. :(
[16:54:57] <bacterium> coffee++
[16:54:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5535
[16:54:59] <bacterium> satan++
[16:54:59] <Bender> karma - satan: 20
[16:58:03] <chromas> I dunno why they didn't just use cron instead of running their own pseudo cron
[17:02:39] <Bytram> was it even around back then? ~1995-1996 I'm guessing
[17:03:49] <chromas> I'm assuming unix/linux servers had ways of automatically running things in the background around that time
[17:04:22] <chromas> Looks like AT&T cron was from 1975
[17:42:17] <Bytram> That *would* predate slashd. I sure wonder what they were thinking when /. came up with it!
[17:44:08] <Bytram> All I can *guess* is that, maybe, there was a change to cron that was a pita for /. to deal with (poorly-abstracted code?) and so maybe they decided to "do it themselves" so that they'd never get "bit" again???
[17:49:14] <chromas> Nah, probably just wanted the fun of implementing it themselves
[17:49:28] * chromas looks at his homemade xml parser in disgust
[18:03:56] <Bytram> Also, if you want to truly understand something, try explaining it to someone else (or, to a computer)
[18:04:55] <chromas> What if you just isn't that good with making the doing the words thingy?
[18:35:57] * FatPhil agros
[19:11:16] * Bytram Sargassos and seas
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[19:53:10] <Bytram> chromas: I just checked. It appears you have "Relationship Change" set to "[Web]".
[19:55:09] <Bytram> gtg; laters!
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[20:32:38] <FatPhil> https://youtu.be
[20:32:40] <systemd> ^ 03Debunking the absurd Navy/Pentagon UFO footage - It's a Bokeh! ( https://www.youtube.com )
[20:33:31] <chromas> Bokehs are real tho
[20:49:42] <FatPhil> from that vid, it's looks like they're not just real - they're mounting an invasion force!
[21:17:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - HTTPS Everywhere Now Uses DuckDuckGo’s Smarter Encryption - https://sylnt.us - the-duck-that-could
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[23:07:19] <chromas> Aha! I've finally found the real difference between UK and American English. It's not about such petty things as extra lettres and saying "revising" instead of "studying". No, it's much bigger than that.
[23:07:29] <chromas> Americans say "different from" while Europeans say "different to". Bloody mercurials are going the wrong way!