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[00:12:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt carly simon you're so vain
[00:12:00] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Carly Simon - You&#39;re So Vain
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[00:24:46] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Great Song! Was out buying groceries a few days ago and it came over the PA system. =)
[00:24:59] <Bytram> =g scarpet
[00:24:59] <systemd> https://github.com - gnembon/scarpet: Public Repository of scarpet programs ... - GitHub
[00:25:06] <Bytram> lol
[00:25:25] <Bytram> =g scarpet -github
[00:25:25] <systemd> https://www.reddit.com - Getting scripts installed into scarpet : MinecraftCommands
[00:25:39] <Bytram> =w scarpet
[00:25:39] <systemd> herself and Nazboo invisible. Zeta and Nazboo then steal Shine and Shimmer’scarpet and fly to the genies' palace, unaware that Parisa was following them using - https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:25:51] <Bytram> hrrrm
[00:26:03] <Bytram> =lyrics You're so Vain
[00:26:09] <Bytram> =g lyrics You're so Vain
[00:26:10] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - You're So Vain - Wikipedia
[00:26:53] <Bytram> =g "lyrics" You're so Vain you went up to nova scotia total eclipse
[00:26:54] <systemd> https://genius.com - Carly Simon – You're So Vain Lyrics | Genius Lyrics
[00:29:23] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[00:29:24] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Carly Simon - You're So Vain (04:42; 31,966,927 views; 👍148,392 👎5,617)
[01:08:16] <chromas> https://www.themideastbeast.com
[01:08:19] <systemd> ^ 03Heaven Decreases Virgins Per Muslim from 72 to 4 Amid Fears that Large Gatherings Further the Spread of Covid-19 - The Mideast Beast
[01:09:08] * chromas needs to invest in satirical news stonks
[01:16:20] <AzumaHazuki> "Seventy-two VIRGINIANS, assholes!"
[01:26:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vostok 1: 60th Anniversary of Historic First Human Spaceflight - https://sylnt.us
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[01:36:27] <Runaway1956> #yt The Virginian 1962 - 1971 Opening and Closing Theme
[01:36:28] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- The Virginian 1962 - 1971 Opening and Closing Theme HD Dolby
[01:55:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://hackaday.com
[01:55:01] <systemd> ^ 03Keep Coffee Warm Through Induction Heating
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[02:16:04] <c0lo> =submit you-may-say-I'm-a-dreamer https://www.engadget.com
[02:16:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03How Gadgets Could Unlock the Potential of Lucid Dreaming" (25p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:17:03] <AzumaHazuki> lucid dreams are some of the best i've ever had. i'm nightmare-prone but can usually fight back when i go lucid
[02:17:21] <c0lo> =submit start-with-the-basics https://www.nytimes.com
[02:17:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03How to Feed Crowds in a Protest or Pandemic? the Sikhs Know" (44p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:18:19] <c0lo> =submit https://www.rnz.co.nz
[02:18:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Agromining: Farming of Metal-extracting Trees and Plants Could Replace Mining" (40p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:18:55] <Bytram> =g Feynman lucid dreaming
[02:18:56] <systemd> https://io9.gizmodo.com - A handy guide to lucid dreaming, with additional tips from Richard ...
[02:19:34] <c0lo> =submit https://www.zdnet.com
[02:19:37] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Critical Zoom Vulnerability Triggers Remote Code Execution Without User Input" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:21:51] <c0lo> =submit doi-10.1016/j.cell.2021.03.025 https://scitechdaily.com
[02:21:55] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Genetic Engineering 2.0: an On-Off Switch for Gene Editing" (26p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:23:16] <c0lo> =submit https://www.techrepublic.com
[02:23:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Data Scraped From 500 Million LinkedIn Users Found for Sale Online" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:23:56] <c0lo> =submit https://www.businessinsider.com.au
[02:23:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scraped Personal Data of 1.3 Million Clubhouse Users Has Reportedly Leaked Online" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:24:50] <c0lo> =submit https://www.abc.net.au
[02:24:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Chinese Government Fines Alibaba $3.7 Billion for Anti-competitive Behaviour - ABC News" (34p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[03:48:04] <khallow> howdy
[03:48:59] <AzumaHazuki> oh gods
[03:49:06] <AzumaHazuki> it figured out irc
[03:49:33] <khallow> I had it figured out years ago. Switched laptops and it slid off my radar
[03:50:45] <khallow> plus really lousy internet. Didn't bother trying anything more complicated than loading text-heavy pages
[03:56:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mysterious 'Blobs' Near Norway Are Full of Squid Mucus and Embryos, Study Finds - https://sylnt.us - Blobs-are-friends
[04:15:02] <chromas> Hm, so YouTube has naked yoga now. Softcore porn, away!
[04:18:01] <chromas> (for edubational purposes only)
[04:18:28] <khallow> I guess I was looking at a different sort of porn. Couple of people carved up a Starlink antenna
[04:18:45] <khallow> Got X rays even
[04:31:05] <Runaway1956> https://www.themideastbeast.com
[04:31:08] <systemd> ^ 03Ocasio-Cortez Admits She Had No Idea Israel Is a Country - The Mideast Beast
[04:33:16] <Runaway1956> I should put that in my news reader
[04:42:06] <khallow> seems pretty mediocre as parody. humor has been a casualty of these ideological divides.
[04:43:20] <AzumaHazuki> more to the point, reality has become impossible to satirize any longer. it's too ridiculous
[04:46:30] <khallow> I think the people having the difficulty now, would have difficulty no matter what reality was doing.
[04:50:32] <AzumaHazuki> so do you just reflexively insult all and sundry who aren't you? it really seems like you take any and every chance to dump on the world + dog
[04:50:50] <AzumaHazuki> this kind of thing is why no one likes you, and this is me that's coming from
[04:51:24] <Runaway1956> LOL, who does she like?
[05:04:55] <khallow> To answer your question, no.
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[05:51:56] <Runaway1956> Yo, George
[05:52:02] <Jorge_Floyd> Aw sheeit, pop pop pop anotha nigga drop
[05:52:28] <Jorge_Floyd> Niggas Int gonna flop fo dey white cops
[05:53:14] <Jorge_Floyd> We got some chimpouts
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[05:54:45] <AzumaHazuki> christ, what an asshole
[06:27:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Could Mario Kart Teach Us How to Reduce World Poverty and Improve Sustainability? - https://sylnt.us
[06:34:49] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: why did you just reflexively insult khallow, who isn't you, within 1 minute of him joining the IRC channel? it really seems like you take any and every chance to dump on the world + dog
[06:35:31] <Runaway1956> Thank you FatPhil
[06:35:53] <AzumaHazuki> FatPhil, a few things wrong with that. 1) that wasn't reflexive or spontaneous, but in response to what appeared to be automatic mindless snark. 2) i take any and every chance to point out, at the appropriate times, when someone's being a dick
[06:36:18] <AzumaHazuki> please do look closer at the content. that is bordering on tone trolling, and i know you're both smarter and a better person than that
[06:36:39] <Runaway1956> *sigh*
[06:36:55] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: the only way that could be true is if "06:48 < khallow> howdy" can be considered mindless snark.
[06:37:58] <Runaway1956> I think maybe someone regards IRC as her own personal domain, where she makes the rules?
[06:38:04] <AzumaHazuki> <khallow> I think the people having the difficulty now, would have difficulty no matter what reality was doing.
[06:38:54] <FatPhil> Yes, but you reflexively insulted khallow before then. And even when that is now drawn to your attention, you don't see it.
[06:40:25] <AzumaHazuki> you mean "oh gods, it figured out IRC?" That wasn't an insult, that was a paroxysm of mild despair
[06:42:24] <Runaway1956> Morally superior people are entitled to their despair?
[06:44:33] <FatPhil> so explicit dehumanisation, and implicit expression of him being unwelcome aren't an insult now?
[06:48:16] <FatPhil> But anyway, good morning all.
[06:49:25] <AzumaHazuki> it's not my call as to whether he's welcome or not, since it's not my channel. that said, if it were my channel, he'd be about as welcome as a small puff of methane in a crowded elevator and for mostly the same reasons...
[06:52:49] <chromas> More importantly though, https://www.youtube.com
[06:52:52] <systemd> ^ 03Hot Shots!
[06:53:03] <FatPhil> flaming sambucas?
[06:53:16] <FatPhil> bit early in the morning for that
[07:01:28] <Runaway1956> It's 5:00 somewhere
[07:05:16] <khallow> [00:40] <AzumaHazuki> you mean "oh gods, it figured out IRC?" That wasn't an insult, that was a paroxysm of mild despair
[07:06:03] <AzumaHazuki> i guess i can always drop you in the killfile if you get snotty with me
[07:06:43] <Runaway1956> Don't mind her khallow - Buzzard and I are both on her "ignore" list
[07:06:53] <khallow> was indeed a reflexive insult. Same goes for the accusation starting with the leading question "so do you just reflexively insult all and sundry who aren't you?"
[07:07:23] <khallow> Just drop me in your killfile so we can stop wasting time
[07:08:37] <AzumaHazuki> good idea. i shouldn't have wasted the keystrokes
[07:09:16] <Runaway1956> She doesn't mind wasting oxygen, lol
[07:11:32] <khallow> anyway posted a journal. Perfectly good math wasted by well not working.
[07:22:11] <Runaway1956> I got as far as the Legionnaire's disease . . .
[07:22:36] <Runaway1956> Legendre polynomials.
[07:40:23] <khallow> yea. really hard to talk about it at all, much less in a journal.
[07:41:27] <khallow> And I keep coming up with weird crap like not being able to evaluate polynomials
[07:41:56] <khallow> I must be doing something right!
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[08:50:47] <SoyCow1868> oh great and powerful wizards of soy, how 'bout supporting dark mode via: https://drafts.csswg.org ?
[08:50:50] <systemd> ^ 03Media Queries Level 5 ( https://drafts.csswg.org )
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[08:54:37] <chromas> no
[08:54:56] <FatPhil> I use vt220 mode for "dark mode"
[08:55:16] <chromas> I use my theme
[08:55:16] <boru> I use DarkReader everywhere. The "dynamic" mode is a bit slow, though.
[08:55:31] <boru> But it does the right thing.
[08:55:35] <chromas> DarkReader's pretty noice
[08:56:09] <boru> I used to use another plugin, but then mozilla lost their mind and switched to this new shite plugin framework, and the author discontinued it.
[08:56:10] <FatPhil> which has the added benefit of making twattish font selection not work
[08:56:25] <boru> What do you mean?
[08:56:49] <FatPhil> all posts are in the same font
[08:57:40] <FatPhil> so twats can't use twattish styling to make their posts stand out.
[08:57:54] <boru> Ah, right.
[09:05:30] <AzumaHazuki> like Arik's?
[09:06:42] <FatPhil> I wouldn't know, I've not seen one for years ;-)
[09:06:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why are CEOs of U.S. Firms Paid 320 Times as Much as Their Workers? - https://sylnt.us - because-when-they-mess-up-they-only-have-a-golden-parachute...wait-a-minute
[09:09:28] <chromas> Betteridge says no
[09:29:44] <FatPhil> maybe to a 'why', he says 'why not?'?
[09:34:19] <boru> Interesting. Looks like some Chinese logistics companies will have fully autonomous air freight networks next year. That's pretty neat. I wonder when we'll get them.
[09:35:00] <boru> Seems like a German company are doing the control systems, whereas a Slovenian company are doing the air frame.
[09:37:52] <boru> Autonomous freight is probably one of few reasonable applications for autonomous air/sea/land vehicles, imho.
[10:03:15] <FatPhil> I know knee-jerk progressive liberals will get triggered, but given that this Daunte Wright thing just happened, they really ought to watch "What Killed Michael Brown?"
[11:36:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Growing Number of US Colleges Will Require Students to be Vaccinated, Despite State Policies - https://sylnt.us
[12:15:34] <Ingar> Fully autonomous air freight network will be fully autonomous 'till the first accident
[12:16:18] <FatPhil> which will be in early trials
[12:17:33] <boru> Not in China. Most of the drone fleet will be operating in high desert regions, so a very low risk to humans.
[12:18:35] <boru> I doubt you'll see operations in dense urban regions.
[12:19:02] <boru> Seems more like a peripheral/boundary network.
[12:19:06] <Ingar> boru: a desert region could make the situation worse if the cargo is valuable :D
[12:19:15] <boru> e.g. drop it off to the edge of a city, let human driven trucks take it from there.
[12:19:30] <boru> _If_ cargo is valuable.
[12:20:23] <boru> There are some charities on the African continents using part-autonomous freight carriers to drop off medical supplies to remote areas.
[12:20:44] <boru> I think it's a pretty neat idea.
[12:21:15] <boru> Much lower cost, and could be constructed by native companies.
[12:27:22] <Ingar> boru: than there are the stories of poor africans being crushed by supply drops :D
[12:28:12] <boru> You're right. We should just stop trying to innovate.
[12:28:38] <boru> The African continent should be captive to the West for technology forever.
[12:42:12] <FatPhil> Coronavirus pandemic = Overproducin' maniacs!
[12:43:15] <boru> Indeed. Buying shares in ASML some time ago paid off.
[12:55:23] <Bytram> =w ASML
[12:55:24] <systemd> ASML is a Dutch multinational company specializing in development and manufacturing of photolithography systems. Currently it is the largest supplier of - https://en.wikipedia.org
[12:57:03] <boru> Steady increase to 300% 1YE since 2017.
[12:57:28] <boru> They make the litho machines for practically every semiconductor fab on Earth.
[12:58:07] <Bytram> I now recognize the name, thanks, but not your numbers?
[12:59:00] <boru> Share price increase from their 1st year target estimate.
[12:59:48] <Bytram> what's their annuallized appreciation rate?
[13:01:15] <boru> Probably on finance.yahoo.com or some such.
[13:01:39] <Bytram> is that their ticker symbol?
[13:01:48] <boru> Yeah
[13:01:57] <Bytram> kewel, tx!
[13:03:16] <boru> I mentioned them mostly wrt FP's comment about overproducing maniacs.
[13:03:24] <boru> Semiconductor fab is off the charts at the moment.
[13:06:38] <Bytram> to be expected, yeah. cars can't even get the 24nm chips they need, nvm AMD/Apple/etc. down at ~5nm
[13:07:03] <boru> Yeah, that fab size is a bit bonkers.
[13:07:11] <boru> That said, home fab is really coming along, also.
[13:07:32] <boru> I think I read recently on another net, some guys doing sub-40nm at home.
[13:08:02] <Ingar> it's not like fabs can just quickly switch their process
[13:09:01] <FatPhil> I swore I'd turn my back on the monster that is the stock market, but right now lots of mining companies are very very tempting....
[13:09:49] <boru> Indeed they are.
[13:10:17] <boru> I've got a few others in mind I'll invest into this year, also, based on where I see things going.
[13:12:45] <FatPhil> I'm kinda enjoying the slow and steady of my whisky. I'm definitely becoming more risk averse as I age.
[13:13:13] <FatPhil> I've learnt that when banks who manage your money in funds talk about "risk", what they mean is "stupidity".
[13:14:44] <boru> Well, index funds are good for stable long term investments i.e. approaching retirement.
[13:14:45] <Bytram> =g quote ASML
[13:14:46] <systemd> https://finance.yahoo.com - ASML Holding N.V. - New York Re (ASML) Stock Price, News, Quote ...
[13:14:53] <boru> And then pumping metals, I guess.
[13:15:03] <boru> I like a few others, one in particular.
[13:18:32] <Bytram> =g quote ASML -yahoo
[13:18:33] <systemd> https://www.bloomberg.com - ASML:EN Amsterdam Stock Quote - ASML Holding NV - Bloomberg ...
[13:19:08] <boru> Then dump it all at retirement, buy a large piece of land out near the mountains with forest and a water supply, and rebuild the library of Alexandria.
[13:21:37] <FatPhil> on blockchain!
[13:21:54] <boru> Heh.
[13:22:47] <Bytram> and only then do you move it all to the Mediterranean coast, amirite?
[13:22:53] <boru> The Library of Bloxandira!
[13:23:00] <boru> Modulo typos.
[13:23:15] <Bytram> noscript is being a pain for me today
[13:23:22] <FatPhil> Would I have to take in a distributed lodger?
[13:23:27] <boru> Yes, it's best to move libraries severnal hundreds of kilometers _after_ you build them.
[13:23:29] <Bytram> =g quote ASML -yahoo -bloomberg
[13:23:30] <systemd> https://www.morningstar.com - ASML Holding NV ADR (ASML) Quote - XNAS | Morningstar
[13:23:44] <boru> I am too tired for puns.
[13:23:44] <Bytram> boru: the mountains. too!
[13:23:54] <boru> Bytram; why not use umatrix and ubo?
[13:24:09] <boru> Of course, I'd relocate the entire property, China-style.
[13:24:55] <Bytram> just did the bare minimum when I got started, noscript was my "goto"
[13:25:14] <Bytram> gonna need a bigger shovel
[13:25:32] <boru> Or a less obnoxious www.
[13:26:58] <Bytram> =g "In order to operate on this tab, NoScript needs to reload it"
[13:26:59] <systemd> https://forums.informaction.com - [FIXED] NoScript causing need to refresh pages in Firefox - Page 2 ...
[13:33:37] <Bytram> boru: Just took a look at uMatrix for Firefox... "This add-on is not actively monitored for security by Mozilla. Make sure you trust it before installing."
[13:33:41] <Bytram> cf: https://addons.mozilla.org
[13:33:42] <systemd> ^ 03uMatrix – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US) ( https://addons.mozilla.org )
[13:34:08] <boru> I wouldn't trust it any more if it were monitored by mozilla.
[13:34:39] <boru> But I've used it for years. It's not updated anymore since it's basically code complete. The author is rolling some of its functionality into ubo.
[13:34:52] <Bytram> IOW, mozilla monitoring provides no perceived value to you?
[13:34:58] <boru> None whatsoever.
[13:35:02] <Bytram> k
[13:35:07] <boru> The company have lost their mind and the values long ago.
[13:35:18] <Bytram> hmm, ubo? brb
[13:35:23] <boru> I use firefox because it's the least worst browser out there at the moment.
[13:35:33] <boru> uBlock Origin.
[13:35:56] <boru> As soon as a better browser with plugin support comes along, I'll use it.
[13:36:08] <Bytram> recognized it, used for a long time on palemoon
[13:36:54] <boru> Ungoogled chromium, librefox and iridium are all possibilities, but alas, none are available in ports at the moment, and they are a pain to build from source.
[13:37:03] <boru> Mozilla's build system is an abomination.
[13:41:51] <Bytram> ubo: Allow this extension to run i n Private Windows?
[13:42:32] <boru> I do, yes.
[13:42:42] <Bytram> obliged1
[13:42:46] <Bytram> s/1/!/
[13:42:46] <SedBot> <Bytram> obliged!
[13:42:54] <boru> Sure, you're welcome.
[13:43:34] <boru> If you use firefox, I would also recommend: https://github.com
[13:43:35] <systemd> ^ 03arkenfox/user.js
[13:43:45] <boru> If you want some chance at actual privacy.
[13:44:38] <boru> Firefox gets worse and worse each release, in this respect.
[13:44:50] <boru> But it's still not as bad as chrome/chromium.
[13:44:59] <boru> Ergo, least worst.
[13:46:15] <Bytram> otoh, least wurst might make for an empty sandwich roll
[13:47:41] <boru> More room for Leberkäse!
[13:47:59] <Bytram> =)
[13:48:12] <Bytram> Zwei shay?
[13:48:36] <Bytram> (or was that two obtuse?)
[13:48:54] <boru> Not at all, both acute and astute.
[13:49:15] <Bytram> what a Hoot!
[14:05:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Here's Why Our Brains Solve Problems by Adding Things, Not Removing - https://sylnt.us - it's-harder-to-reverse-engineer-someone-else's-work-than-the-new-stuff-we-just-came-up-with
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[14:24:23] <khallow> howdy
[14:29:05] <FatPhil> welcome back
[14:38:11] <Bytram> doody
[14:46:56] <FatPhil> I'm getting itchy for some scifi series to watch - and /Primeval/ has been dangled in front of me - did anyone watch it?
[14:47:20] <FatPhil> https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:47:21] <systemd> ^ 03Primeval (TV series) - Wikipedia
[14:47:56] <Bytram> not me; limited data cap and don't have much time for watching video or TV
[14:49:10] <boru> Watching the latest season of The Expanse at the moment. Haven't seen Primeval, but I'll check it out.
[14:51:42] <Bytram> time to go; laters!
[14:58:32] <FatPhil> The thing that made me think Primeval would be worth watching was the Charlie Brooker quote in the reception section. I was quite a fan, though a critical one, of Torchwood, and so anything which gets compared favourably to that gets my attention.
[14:59:08] <FatPhil> And I like Brooker's own creative output too, namely /Black Mirror/, so I trust him to know what he's talking about.
[15:15:47] <Runaway1956> https://soylentnews.org
[15:15:49] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Update on Dominion vs Sidney Powell ( https://soylentnews.org )
[15:16:29] <Runaway1956> Moar 'Zumi!
[15:18:14] <Runaway1956> @ FatPhil - I don't even know where Brooklyn Center is - guess I need to read up . . .
[15:20:46] <Runaway1956> https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:20:47] <systemd> ^ 03Brooklyn Center, Minnesota - Wikipedia
[15:22:35] <FatPhil> Oh, thank you for the 'thank you' earlier.
[15:23:04] <FatPhil> I had just got up and the first thing I saw was petty insults, I felt I had to say something.
[15:23:27] <Runaway1956> That seems to be her life's work or something
[15:23:52] <FatPhil> The projecting was strong, which is why I chose to use her own words.
[15:29:43] <Runaway1956> I guess there's no video on the Wright shooting
[15:30:24] <FatPhil> bodycam apparently exists, but hasn't been released yet
[15:34:31] <Runaway1956> I see no suggestion that Wright had a weapon - if he had, the cops would be saying so
[15:34:56] <FatPhil> he was armed with an air freshener!
[15:35:05] <Runaway1956> I don't want to use the words "reckless abandon" but sometimes it looks like that's the police MO
[15:35:11] <FatPhil> sharp pointy pine needles!
[15:36:20] <khallow> If the news is correct, there has been one improvement
[15:37:04] <khallow> Wikipedia is alleging that CPR was administered at the scene.
[15:37:12] <boru> The police in the USA seem to be getting a lot of flak and scandal lately. Is it to distract people from their goverment carpet bombing Syria?
[15:37:34] <Runaway1956> citations for carpet bombings
[15:37:49] <boru> It's Snopes!
[15:38:04] <boru> I was being partially facetious, in case that wasn't obvious.
[15:38:16] <Runaway1956> Snopes lost all credibility when they hired a left wing agitator to "fact check" their political stuff
[15:38:21] <boru> Are some bombings okay?
[15:38:34] <Runaway1956> as long as they don't damage the carpte
[15:38:38] <Runaway1956> carpet
[15:38:57] <boru> It's not your carpet.
[15:39:18] <Runaway1956> One damaged carpet affects all of us
[15:39:28] <boru> ...
[15:39:34] <khallow> my brother found he could prevent carpet bombing by keeping the dog away from carpeted areas.
[15:40:05] <Runaway1956> This is the 2020s, we don't bomb carpets anymore, we drone weddings
[15:40:31] <Runaway1956> Somehow, that seems to be the preferred image
[15:41:00] <boru> Anyway, my thinly veiled point was highlighting how much people are getting worked up over these shootings, but seemingly couldn't care less about bombing people in other countries.
[15:41:26] <boru> Where are the protests? The candlelight vigils?
[15:41:36] <boru> 24/7 media coverage etc.
[15:42:06] <Runaway1956> You hadn't heard the news? Black lives matter, not brown.
[15:42:30] <Runaway1956> And, Dog Lives Matter too - https://www.msn.com
[15:42:31] <systemd> ^ 03New Orleans police officer fatally shoots 18-week-old puppy while responding to noise complaint
[15:43:11] <Runaway1956> "One of the responding officers was also injured by flying shrapnel, according to NOLA.com."
[15:43:28] <Runaway1956> Cop not only shot the dog, he apparently narrowly missed shooting his own partner
[15:43:43] <boru> Isn't that normally what the ATF and the FBI do over there?
[15:44:18] <Runaway1956> No, that's mostly local cops - ATF and FBI wear suits and sit in offices most of the time
[15:44:31] <Runaway1956> unless they're organizing a kidnap attempt or some such
[15:55:58] <FatPhil> what if they're organising the dunkin' of donuts?
[15:57:03] <FatPhil> And in sweet-treats-slash-globalisation news - Tallinn is getting a Baskin Robbins, right on the central square.
[15:57:36] <progo> there's enough FUD out there to make it a life rule: only ask cops for help as a last resort because they shoot pets and people having autistic freak-outs
[15:58:21] <FatPhil> One of my fears is that once the pandemic clears up, the big multinationals will jump on all the now-cheap rents.
[15:59:07] <FatPhil> I guess I see about 2 small businesses close per week as I walk around town. Something will eventually take their place.
[15:59:50] <progo> New York City is systematically pushing small businesses out
[16:00:15] <progo> it is a VERY bad decision for an NYC entrepreneur to start a small business without moving somewhere else first
[16:00:26] <Runaway1956> Small business has been under constant attack since the COVIDS started
[16:00:36] <Runaway1956> nationwide
[16:00:37] <progo> started in NYC years ago
[16:00:53] <Runaway1956> Maybe, I can't address that
[16:01:44] <Runaway1956> Of course, in NY, it takes as much money to start a small business as it would take to start a major corporation elsewhere
[16:02:01] <FatPhil> probably some mafia you need to bribe too!
[16:02:13] <Runaway1956> Rent on a small storefront in NY would buy ten city blocks in some other cities
[16:02:42] <Runaway1956> Or a hundred acre farm in flyover country
[16:02:43] <FatPhil> hey, dey're a family business too, capice?
[16:03:50] <progo> all the unoccupied NYC storefronts are literally asking for more rent money (a year ago) than what the market is willing to pay. no business comes to them and says "yes I can make enough revenue to cover the rent you're asking". the MORTAGE on the building stipulates a certain property value which dictates rent. rent CANNOT go down because the MORTGAGE is owned by a loose collection of investors who don't even know each other; not owned by a bank
[16:03:50] <progo> with an account manager
[16:03:57] <progo> it's gridlock
[16:04:15] <progo> you can't negotiate with a bunch of investors that don't know each other
[16:04:31] <khallow> FatPhil, my bet is someone is already buying up those properties.
[16:05:14] <FatPhil> possibly. quite possibly russians...
[16:05:23] <progo> other cities' profits in Starbucks and Verizon stores pay for NYC chain stores because they HAVE to have a presence here
[16:05:33] <Runaway1956> Why is it always the Russians? My money is on the Chinese!
[16:05:44] <FatPhil> proximity
[16:05:54] <FatPhil> there's only one river between us
[16:06:14] <FatPhil> (with 2 rather pretty castles on either side, recommended if you ever do tourism round the baltic)
[16:06:19] <Runaway1956> well you need a proximity fuse on that river
[16:06:27] <Ingar> see Louis Rossmann's rents on NYC business property
[16:07:41] <progo> yeah Louis Rossman's videos are the source for my rant
[16:08:39] <FatPhil> Woh - TIL Baskin Robbins is part of Arby's
[16:09:25] <FatPhil> Which is also associated with Dunkin' Donuts.
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[16:11:37] <progo> which is now Dunkin. because no one likes their donuts and bagels
[16:12:33] <khallow> well, see you all later. I'm traveling back to Yellowstone. It's a multiday process.
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[16:37:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon's Twitch Will Punish Users for Certain Harmful Offline Behavior - https://sylnt.us
[17:44:15] <FatPhil> Anyway, despite yahoo!'s best efforts, we still don't have the answer - how is babby made?
[17:50:54] <chromas> https://www.msn.com
[17:50:55] <systemd> ^ 03Police release body-cam footage in death of Daunte Wright; police chief says officer meant to use Taser during traffic stop
[17:57:36] <chromas> https://www.theonion.com
[17:57:37] <systemd> ^ 03Cadet Studying For Police Academy Exam Just Skimming Over Deescalation Training He’ll Never Use In Real Life
[18:08:30] <FatPhil> it's the latest in compacy high-speed lead taser. More accurate, and not foiled by chainmail.
[18:08:37] <FatPhil> s/cy/ct/
[18:08:37] <SedBot> <FatPhil> it's the latest in compact high-speed lead taser. More accurate, and not foiled by chainmail.
[19:17:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Critical Zoom Vulnerability Triggers Remote Code Execution Without User Input - https://sylnt.us - I-can-haz-pwnie?
[19:25:34] <FatPhil> Hmmm "This was an accidental discharge" ? Unholstering, unsafety, aim, shout, pull trigger. That doesn't sound "accidental" to me, that sounds "incompetent".
[19:32:13] <FatPhil> Looks like there's plenty of case history of throwing cops under the bus for lead-based tasing.
[19:43:14] <requerdanos> Body cam from the shooting, https://www.youtube.com
[19:43:16] <systemd> ^ 03Body cam of fatal shooting of Black man in Minneapolis released
[20:05:28] <FatPhil> "shit"
[20:29:56] <Runaway1956> I don't see the body cam video requerdanos all I see is a statement that they have released the video
[20:30:58] <requerdanos> Looks like the body cam video from here. Odd.
[20:37:28] <Runaway1956> OK, the video is there, but the page has been updated since you posted it - I had to watch two other videos before I got to the bodycam
[20:38:47] <Runaway1956> As usual, multiple cops standing around, none of them are willing to get physical and force the guy to submit - their solution is always a weapon
[20:39:17] <Runaway1956> in this case, I can believe she meant to fire her taser, but still, three cops can't physically subdue one man
[20:39:32] <Runaway1956> "Oh, I might get a bruise!"
[21:26:28] <FatPhil> didn't you read the report - he was armed with an air-freshener!
[21:26:44] <FatPhil> you might get hurt by the pointy pointy pine needles!
[21:27:50] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: don't bother with "youtube", just use youtube-dl and grab the video directly - no shitty ads
[21:31:13] <FatPhil> Ha! Just watching Edge of Darkness (uk original) E05, and as soon as it finishes I reload the news and see that there's been a nuclear materials heist!
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[21:46:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Starts Rolling Out "Heads Up" in Digital Wellbeing App to Stop Distracted Walking - https://sylnt.us - digital-darwinism
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[22:17:27] <Runaway1956> No one was supposed to know that I stole some fissionable materials - my time machine is suppposed to be top sekrits
[22:20:45] <FatPhil> just remember, it's easiest to smuggle it back across the border if you dress up as a mariachi band.
[22:21:47] <Runaway1956> This is the only "nuclear" showing up in my news
[22:21:49] <Runaway1956> https://www.theguardian.com
[22:21:50] <systemd> ^ 03Natanz nuclear plant attack ‘will set back Iran’s programme by nine months’
[22:23:30] <Runaway1956> Video on that page, but that Persian dude wants to talk Far Easty or some such, instead of good English
[22:25:33] <Runaway1956> https://asia.nikkei.com
[22:25:34] <systemd> ^ 03Nikkei Asia
[22:26:15] <Runaway1956> Fekkin' Japs - won't allow us to steal their "Intelli-agricultureal" property.
[22:30:06] <Runaway1956> Ate my soup, ate my salad, ate a burger - horror of horrors, there's no vitamin Chocolate to go with my meal . . .
[22:52:29] <FatPhil> https://www.gob.mx
[22:53:38] <FatPhil> Gotta love "gob.mx"!
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[23:19:24] <Runaway1956> becoming one with the satoshi?
[23:19:40] <Runaway1956> My machine has been taken over by aliens, or Japanese?
[23:21:22] <Runaway1956> I don't see a date on that FatPhil
[23:21:46] <Runaway1956> I remember a similar Mexican headline a few years ago
[23:22:26] <Runaway1956> I don't think that one was Iridium though, this must be new
[23:23:29] <FatPhil> last one was just erm-duno-just-call-it-irradium
[23:24:30] <FatPhil> news alerts were broadcast on the nacional irradio stations.
[23:24:44] <Runaway1956> This one dated Oct 5 2020
[23:24:49] <Runaway1956> https://themazatlanpost.com
[23:24:51] <systemd> ^ 03Radioactive source stolen in the State of Mexico is found in Tlaxcala - The Mazatlan Post
[23:26:39] <FatPhil> ah, so it's a twice yearly event? nothing to worry about then.
[23:26:42] <Runaway1956> and from 2016
[23:26:55] <Runaway1956> https://www.cbsnews.com
[23:26:56] <systemd> ^ 03Radioactive material stolen in Mexico
[23:27:09] <Runaway1956> I guess that one was Iridium as well
[23:27:35] <FatPhil> there are clues pointing it that direction in the url
[23:27:47] <Runaway1956> I remember another one, strontium or something, it was just a simple theft from an abandoned hospital
[23:28:31] <FatPhil> historically, yeah, there have been several.
[23:28:45] <Runaway1956> Ahhhh, cobalt
[23:28:48] <FatPhil> anything that glows in the dark is fun
[23:28:50] <Runaway1956> The cobalt, which is a Category 1 source under the IAEA's ranking system and thus more dangerous than the iridium stolen this week, was found in a field abandoned by thieves days later. Several people were treated for radiation exposure after its discovery.
[23:29:16] <Runaway1956> It ain't a real thing until your children glow in the dark
[23:29:29] <FatPhil> stuff that shines like a thousand suns is less fun
[23:29:57] <FatPhil> =g proton beam thousand suns 1978
[23:29:58] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Anatoli Bugorski - Wikipedia
[23:30:39] <FatPhil> =yt anatoli bugorski
[23:30:40] <systemd> https://youtube.com - What happens if you put your head in a particle accelerator? (17:21; 3,171,478 views; 👍134,994 👎2,645)
[23:31:02] <Runaway1956> Alright, HandyBrowser installing itself, step 39 of 40 it blatantly says "contacting aliens"
[23:31:24] <FatPhil> uploading soul
[23:31:39] <FatPhil> downloading anal probe
[23:39:19] <Runaway1956> I don't think HandyBrowser is ready for the big time
[23:39:33] <Runaway1956> It won't load duckduckgo
[23:40:12] <chromas> But does it give you a handy?
[23:40:32] <Runaway1956> not that I'm noticing . . .
[23:44:42] <FatPhil> are you using it on a handy?
[23:44:45] <Runaway1956> "Please standby while HandyBrowser uploads the contents of your hard drive to the NSA."
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[23:48:27] <Handy> Oh noes! My whois tells who I really is?
[23:50:22] <Handy> FWIW, Handy doesn't handle IRC protocols, it connected here with the web interface
[23:50:29] <chromas> looks like handy is for using handshake, which is a replacement/proxy for dns and certs, not obscuring where you're cumming from
[23:51:09] <Handy> lol, I have no idea where that 156 IP address is - it isn't mine
[23:52:02] <Handy> Or, wait, maybe it is mine - a little obfuscation is good sometimes
[23:52:51] <chromas> Going through a vpn?
[23:54:26] <FatPhil> it's rot-13
[23:54:26] <Runaway1956> No, it doesn't seem to be going through the VPN
[23:54:39] <Runaway1956> it's doing something different
[23:59:40] <Handy> Sorry, I lied about the VPN - I didn't recognize it because I'm connected to a different VPN server