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[02:05:23] <c0lo> =submit https://www.psychnewsdaily.com
[02:05:25] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "0334% of WFH (Work From Home) Workers Say They'd Rather Quit Than Return to Full-time Office Work" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:09:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, people not liking going to work is a bit "Dog Bites Man"
[02:11:34] <c0lo> I don't get it. If they didn't like it before, why did they go for it?
[02:12:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause they do like eating
[02:13:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[02:16:24] <c0lo> And they don't like to eat now?
[02:18:03] <c0lo> (pretty long that ship that hit the curb. That female captain was some 130km+ away from Suez)
[02:19:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> they think they can get away with not going back to work. some of em are probably right, most won't be.
[02:20:05] <c0lo> I'll be going back 1d/w
[02:21:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'd be an increase for me. i only go anywhere on installs or when there's a problem.
[02:22:36] <c0lo> Well, it will be Friday, the "beer on the company budget" day. Starts at 15:00.
[02:23:22] <c0lo> the flip after the flop https://edition.cnn.com
[02:23:25] <systemd> ^ 03Capitol riot defendant flips against Proud Boys
[02:23:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> outstanding policy. TR's company does that at the home location. he's the only employee out this side of the mississippi though, so it's either always or never company drinking.
[02:24:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you, they're crazy-ass west texas cowboys, so they have a liquor fridge as well as a beer fridge.
[02:25:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> and "hey, let's try out this new pneumatic ram by shooting flaming mops out into the field" has been heard to be said before
[02:28:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> my boss used to be great, bought all my booze. nowadays i gotta pay for it all myself though. cheap bastard.
[02:36:02] <AzumaHazuki> LOL
[02:36:26] <AzumaHazuki> isn't it funny how the kind of person who throws "cuck" around as a matter of casual speech is the one most likely to be "cucked," by his own usage of the term?
[02:37:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, almost nobody uses it correctly in the first place.
[02:38:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[02:38:30] <systemd> ^ 03100 eggs - how many will the cat break?
[02:41:45] <c0lo> another shy pug https://www.marketwatch.com
[02:41:47] <systemd> ^ 03Florida’s Republican governor receives COVID-19 vaccination away from public eye
[02:44:40] <c0lo> =submit https://innocenceproject.org
[02:44:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New Mexico Governor Signs Historic Legislation to End Qualified Immunity - Innocence Project" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:46:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuckin-a, good on new mexico
[02:46:59] <Runaway1956> here's one for Bytram - I'm not subbing anything until it flies though
[02:47:10] <Runaway1956> https://www.space.com
[02:47:11] <systemd> ^ 03Mars helicopter Ingenuity unlocks its rotor blades to prepare for 1st flight on Red Planet
[02:50:43] <Runaway1956> https://www.space.com
[02:50:44] <systemd> ^ 03Philip Chapman, first Australian-born NASA astronaut, dies at 86
[03:18:37] <c0lo> =submit dont-plug-it-into-kong https://techcrunch.com
[03:18:39] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Watch a Monkey Equipped With Elon Musk’s Neuralink Device Play Pong With its Brain – TechCrunch" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:25:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i about got TR talked in to a solution for his kids gettin on each other's nerves and bitching to him. paintball dueling pistols. at any time one can challenge the other to a duel and resolve the dispute.
[03:32:28] <progo> ping pong would be less messy
[03:38:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> the mess isn't important, being allowed to shoot your sibling and it hurting is what's key.
[04:04:27] <c0lo> yeah, once they are desensitised to the idea of shooting your sibling, let them have an AK-47 each.
[04:06:41] <c0lo> When one will be mad furious on the other, he'll surely remember how much it hurt and be glad to inflict the pain outside the duelling rules.
[04:08:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Landed a Rocket on a Boat Five Years Ago - https://sylnt.us - it-was-actually-a-barge
[04:17:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, they're siblings. occasionally wanting to shoot each other is a given.
[04:24:45] <c0lo> This is where an AK-47 each solvs the problem once and for all.
[04:25:38] <c0lo> 'Cause solving a conflict can't go on any other path than shooting.
[04:51:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're an only child, aren't you?
[05:09:43] <chromas> A dingo ate his sister
[05:13:16] <c0lo> Had 2 siblings, have only one now.
[05:14:16] <c0lo> s/Had/Grew up with/
[05:14:16] <SedBot> <c0lo> Grew up with 2 siblings, have only one now.
[05:17:13] <c0lo> chromas-- you insensitive clod, my brother died from a cerebral aneurysm causing massive intracranial haemorrhage.
[05:17:13] <Bender> karma - chromas: 343
[05:20:55] <bacterium> satan++
[05:20:55] <Bender> karma - satan: 17
[05:21:19] * chromas sets sensitivity to 9
[05:31:01] <bacterium> omg monkey playing brain pong wow
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[05:36:43] <c0lo> https://pbs.twimg.com
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[05:49:42] <AzumaHazuki> ahhhh, that was good supper. not-actually-curry chicken ("curry powder" is delicious but inauthentic) in its own broth with carrots. warms you to the heart
[06:26:50] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, NZ needs ER staff https://soylentnews.org
[06:26:52] <systemd> ^ 03'It's a crisis' – Overwhelmed ED staff in New Zealand hospitals often in tears, experts say: SoylentNews Submission
[06:27:06] <AzumaHazuki> how is that even happening in NZ?
[06:27:30] <c0lo> IDK. Not covid related.
[06:28:32] <AzumaHazuki> as it is i'm a pharmacy worker, not a nurse, so...
[06:29:27] <c0lo> https://www.rnz.co.nz
[06:29:30] <systemd> ^ 03New Zealand hospitals in crisis after 'biggest January, February on record'
[06:30:01] <c0lo> https://www.rnz.co.nz
[06:30:02] <systemd> ^ 03Expensive GP visits blamed for pressure on emergency departments
[06:30:28] <c0lo> The latter may explain.
[06:32:10] <AzumaHazuki> doesn't NZ have universal healthcare? or is it a case of "we're going to try things the American way?"
[06:32:57] <c0lo> I'm not familiar with their HC system.
[06:33:40] <AzumaHazuki> i see the string "business model"
[06:34:01] <AzumaHazuki> which explains a lot. huge fucking surprise there. the less elastic the demand for something is the less "muh fwee markitz!" should apply to it
[06:36:06] <c0lo> The idea that seems to emerge as I'm reading: not enough doctors and nurses, dependency on immigration.
[06:36:20] <c0lo> First link: "College of Emergency Nurses chair Sue Stebbings said the crisis point had been building for years."
[06:36:43] <AzumaHazuki> "dependency on immigration." hah. what that means is "make nurses a slave caste for money reasons"
[06:37:09] <AzumaHazuki> more and more the western world is beginning to resemble the roman empire. they had a slave caste of police, did you know?
[06:38:39] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, there's seldom such a simple and clean explanation for anything. Stop being intellectually lazy.
[06:39:12] <AzumaHazuki> that's a very boiled-down capsule summary of a larger, more widespread problem, it's true
[06:39:26] <AzumaHazuki> but even the larger problem can be distilled down to "greed, money over lives"
[06:40:27] <c0lo> Is it? How about not enough NZlanders interested in a medical career?
[06:41:03] <c0lo> Would it still boil down to "greed"?
[06:41:11] <AzumaHazuki> partly, yes
[06:41:23] <AzumaHazuki> how much is being offered for being a nurse as opposed to, for example, flipping houses?
[06:41:41] <c0lo> Ah, so only partial.
[06:42:41] <c0lo> Any proof that "greed" is even the largest percentage in the motivation for not enough nurses in NZ?
[06:42:52] <AzumaHazuki> yes, some of it isn't the direct result of greed but indirect results. structural breakdown in the economy. it pays less and is harder than some other jobs, ergo...
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[06:43:46] <c0lo> About "how much is being offered...". I don't know, you tell me if that hypothesis of yours holds water or not.
[06:44:46] <AzumaHazuki> nursing is heavy, intense, and sometimes dangerous work. and i guarantee you there are white-collar jobs in finance, business, possibly even programming, that make more for far less physical effort
[06:44:52] <AzumaHazuki> that is going to skew some peoples' priorities
[06:46:10] <AzumaHazuki> as it is, most of the reason i'm in healthcare is moral: it's as tribute to those i couldn't save as a child and teenager, and also partly to flip two Vs at the Reaper
[06:46:32] <c0lo> At graduation, entry level, nurses seem to earn a bit above the median income in NZ https://www.careers.govt.nz
[06:46:36] <systemd> ^ 03Registered Nurse - About the job
[06:47:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US and Canada Gear Up for Another Asian "Murder Hornet" Season - https://sylnt.us - Mighty-Buzzard^h^h^hers
[06:47:15] <AzumaHazuki> okay, a bit above the median...but how does the work, stress, physical demeads, etc. of the job compare to the median for those criteria?
[06:48:15] <c0lo> And how many "house flippers" can NZ market support?
[06:49:36] <c0lo> Anyhow, if you're not interested, you're not interested.
[06:49:44] <AzumaHazuki> i'm not qualified, is the problem
[06:50:25] <AzumaHazuki> plus, i'm too shy and jittery to be a good nurse.
[06:50:29] <FatPhil> Denmark pays well too.
[06:51:51] <c0lo> It wasn't a judgement associated with interested or not, nor did I asked justifications from you.
[06:52:35] <AzumaHazuki> Don't get me wrong, new zealand looks like a wonderful place to live. and i may be selling myself short thinking "I'll never be able to get there anyway."
[06:53:08] <AzumaHazuki> though, i do wonder about both its sustainability and its geopolitics. it should be an easy, vulnerable nation for a larger superpower to pick off, five eyes be damned
[06:54:00] <c0lo> In general, a crisis in HC won't necessary be caused just for the missing nurses - they may need pharmacists too. If you think you'd like there, you may want to look if they are asking for what you have to offer
[06:54:52] <c0lo> (heh, like superpower would matter today)
[06:54:58] <AzumaHazuki> just a technician. poor girls don't go to pharmacy school (at least not in the US). it's worth looking i suppose
[06:55:38] <AzumaHazuki> ...which is darkly funny since i've been reading study guides for the NAPLEX, the US pharmacist licensing exam, and know a ridiculous amount of it already. obsessive reading will do that
[06:56:05] <bacterium> i think we should build a city on mars, and send elon musk and bill gates and mark what's his book and all all all to make a shiny new colony there, and then none of us will have to move anywhere
[06:56:59] <c0lo> I expect the education prices to be lower than US in most OECD countries. I don't know for sure.
[06:58:08] <AzumaHazuki> i imagine they would be. the US is a giant pyramid scheme
[06:58:28] <AzumaHazuki> it's really creepy and gross how much US history turns on shady economics, when you think about it...
[07:26:46] <chromas> https://www.nbcnews.com
[07:26:47] <systemd> ^ 03Ketchup shortage hits restaurants across the United States
[07:28:42] <chromas> Gonna have to start buying catsup :'(
[07:40:19] <FatPhil> Any restaurant that can't make their own ketchup isn't a restaurant worthy of the name.
[07:41:36] <chromas> What if they just don't have the little packets to fill?
[07:45:57] <c0lo> FatPhil - not enough worker to pick tomatoes, what would you make ketchup from?
[07:53:35] <FatPhil> hypothetical not in evidence
[07:55:06] <Ingar> you really don't want to know how commercial ketchup is made
[07:55:25] <Ingar> and I have no clue what they actually are injecting the tomatoes with
[07:56:14] <chromas> inject tomatoes with old ketchup
[07:57:08] <Ingar> one injection for the tast, one to prevent rotting, and one so they'll turn from green to red
[07:57:24] <Ingar> s/tast/taste/
[07:57:24] <SedBot> <Ingar> one injection for the taste, one to prevent rotting, and one so they'll turn from green to red
[08:02:45] <FatPhil> Commercial ketchup is almost certainly just a mix of raw chemicals. Starches, sugars, acids, water, preservatives, colourants, and then a few drops of something from IFF.
[08:07:58] <c0lo> FatPhil, Trump is selling 4 China, but you are t impaired to see it. Your loss.
[08:16:00] <Ingar> the US has been sold to china long before trump
[08:17:02] <c0lo> Wrong, Ingar, you're offtopic.
[08:17:18] <Ingar> damn, summary pls
[08:21:12] <FatPhil> not "sold to, just "lending itself to at negative interest rates".
[08:21:20] <c0lo> Trump is the only international brand ambassador for the Chinese LFX.
[08:23:20] <c0lo> =w Lao Feng Xiang
[08:23:21] <systemd> Lao Feng Xiang is one of the oldest Chinese jewelry brands in existence, spanning 166 years of continuous operation.[citation needed] The first Lao Feng - https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:24:13] <c0lo> He stroke gold, the bastard. But he's good at what he does.
[08:27:37] <FatPhil> ah, so bling
[08:30:54] <FatPhil> or were this the #shitlords channel, ah-so bling, but it isn't, so I didn't say that.
[08:35:29] <c0lo> The whole thing didn't make it into MSM, I wondr what they have to hide about it.
[08:36:51] <c0lo> It's only two messages on Twitter, but with your impairment, you aren't gonna see them, FatPhil.
[08:38:15] <c0lo> Actually a single tweet, Trump retweeted it.
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[09:18:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Facebook Phone Numbers are Now Searchable in Have I Been Pwned - https://sylnt.us - just-in-case-you-forgot-your-phone-number
[09:39:20] <FatPhil> Hooray for Australia!
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[10:38:40] <c0lo> crazy curls are back, yeah.
[10:43:57] <Bytram> c0lo: Just read what you posted about your brother's passing. ::sadness:: Had a friend ~20 years ago who had had an aneurysm and survived albeit with with speech difficulties and wheelchair-bound. Please accept my condolences on your loss.
[10:46:53] <c0lo> bytram, happened about 45y ago, it's no longer an acute pain. Thank you.
[10:51:56] * Bytram finally just catches up with back-scroll
[10:55:13] <Bytram> Some things fad, but never entirely disappear. It's going on about 25 years since my mom passed -- that messed me up really bad -- and ~15 for my dad. I'm mostly "over" both of their passings, but I still have my moments once in a while.
[10:57:37] <Bytram> s/fad/fade/
[10:57:37] <SedBot> <Bytram> Some things fade, but never entirely disappear. It's going on about 25 years since my mom passed -- that messed me up really bad -- and ~15 for my dad. I'm mostly "over" both of their passings, but I still have my moments once in a while.
[11:01:01] <c0lo> Yes, one gets to live with those scars over the holes where someone dear used to be.
[11:10:26] <Bytram> It took me a while to realize this: "It only hurts because I'd been blessed." It they were a**holes, I might even be glad for their passing. That it hurt suggests that I had gained from having them in my life: the greater the pain, the more I had already gained -- and the more I had (selfishly) wanted it to continue (so I could get more).
[11:11:30] <Bytram> afk -- phone
[11:19:50] <FatPhil> There are definitely different routes through the so-called stages of grief. Losing my mum 4 years back was quite a dip, but I reached a good place fairly quickly. I still look up at her photo almost every day and say "love you, mum" with a smile on my face, happy for all the good things.
[11:21:35] <FatPhil> The last couple of years of her life were quite hard for her and dad, I think she'd have been more content if she'd lived a year or so less.
[11:27:59] <c0lo> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[11:28:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Kati Kariko Helped Shield the World From the Coronavirus" (65p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:28:02] <AzumaHazuki> time does not heal all wounds. at best it can stop the bleeding and cauterize the stumps where there's been a traumatic amputation. you'll survive, but damaged
[11:34:44] <FatPhil> I'd only ever see my mum once a year or so, so perhaps it was easier for me. Even phone calls were only about quarterly. So now not having an aging mum to worry about remotely, I'm in a better place than I was 4 years ago.
[11:36:44] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: My experience has been different. Nothing, absolutely nothing, has happened in my life has been so bad that I have not been able to leverage my experiencing it to help someone else who is now facing the same thing. My life has been far from being born with a silver spoon in my mouth, in case you were wondering.
[11:37:23] <Bytram> I see that in you, your choice of profession, in a desire to be helpful to others.
[11:38:15] <Bytram> Hmmm, looks like this might make for a good story submission / discussion
[11:42:08] <FatPhil> There were several positives I walked away with after my trip to the UK for the funeral too - some meddlesome old ratbag from the church was getting all god-squad, and I saw my oldest nephew (young 20s) politely tell her her fairy-stories were not of interest to him, which made me have faith that the next generation has some hope.
[11:45:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD Zen 3 CPUs Vulnerable to Spectre-Like Attacks Via PSF Feature - https://sylnt.us
[11:48:02] <chromas> Free PhotoShop in my CPU?
[11:49:33] <FatPhil> And on the topic of death - Phil the Greek's cacked it finally.
[11:49:58] <FatPhil> https://www.msn.com
[11:49:59] <systemd> ^ 03Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, dies aged 99
[11:50:26] <c0lo> https://www.nbcdfw.com
[11:50:26] <systemd> ^ 031 Dead, 5 Hurt in Texas Mass Shooting; State Trooper Shot Pursuing Suspect; Shooter in Custody
[11:50:31] <c0lo> =w No Way To Prevent This
[11:50:32] <systemd> 'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens is the title of a series of satirical articles from The Onion about the frequency - https://en.wikipedia.org'No_Way_To_Prevent_This,'_Says_Only_Nation_Where_This_Regularly_Happens
[11:50:45] <FatPhil> #include <stdonion.h>
[11:51:04] <chromas> Good to see wikipedia editors are on the job
[11:52:03] <chromas> We need an SN journal entry that points to the wikipedia entry that pointsto the onion article
[11:57:00] <c0lo> My condolences to Lizzie
[12:09:06] <FatPhil> I think the wave she developed was just preparatory in expectation of having to facepalm when he said something embarassing, so maybe she's relieved.
[12:28:06] <c0lo> After a while, she'll get to feel the missing rationale of her wave
[12:29:04] <Bytram> FatPhil: If you're interested, pls sub a story on prince phillip's passing (even an =sub with one or more links) and I'll try and tie in a bit about our discussion here on IRC and invite others to share on their experiences
[12:29:28] <Bytram> that is if you think the community might be interested in such a discussion
[12:30:12] <FatPhil> I'm not into the royals
[12:30:43] <FatPhil> oldies gonna croak, he's just one person, that happens every fraction of a second.
[12:30:59] <Bytram> s'fine
[12:31:14] <Bytram> thanks for considering it
[13:20:15] <c0lo> some of the comments on this one are delicious https://www.theamericanconservative.com
[13:20:16] <systemd> ^ 03Route Around Deplatforming With Decentralized Tech
[13:21:30] <progo> which wine would you pair them with?
[13:21:52] <progo> I usually forget comments exist on blogs that I don't actively subscribe to
[13:21:58] <c0lo> "The problem is the more decentralized you are, the less likely it is you reach the masses... We need to reject excessive moderation to guarantee access to the Facebooks and youtubes of the world precisely because that is where things actually happen."
[13:22:36] <progo> lol. screw the masses. I only care if my social circle hears what I have to say
[13:22:50] <c0lo> Fuck you geek with your decentralized tech, we'll riot Facebook.
[13:23:16] <progo> if Kanye West isn't on Facebook and Twitter, and I wanted to follow him somewhere, I'd follow him on whatever system he's using
[13:23:30] <c0lo> Because we are exceptional and entitled.
[13:23:31] <progo> and guess what? you can link to social media posts that aren't on YOUR system!
[13:24:07] <progo> well, unless you want to post deplorable stuff on Facebook
[13:30:55] <FatPhil> Dear Americans - please stop pretending...
[13:30:57] <FatPhil> curl -s https://www.vulture.com | sed -ne 's/\(.*Theatre\), .*/\1/p'
[13:31:00] <systemd> ^ 03All 41 Broadway Theaters, Ranked
[13:31:35] <progo> stop pretending the lock-up will end?
[13:31:52] <FatPhil> Nope, stop pretending the word's spelt "theater".
[13:32:01] <FatPhil> your act isn't fooling anyone.
[13:32:14] <FatPhil> not even yourselves.
[13:42:17] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: you do know the difference between a "pole" and a "poll", don't you?
[14:06:31] <chromas> How about you stop pretending the word's spelled "spelt"
[14:15:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Decentralized DNS Project Handshake Patches Inflation Bug - https://sylnt.us - what-about-social-distancing?
[14:15:16] <FatPhil> I love my -lts and will keep using them until you prize them from my cold dead tongue.
[14:16:17] <FatPhil> And don't even think about taking yclept from me, that's grafted to the language lobe of my brain.
[14:19:33] <FatPhil> bloody milloonials: https://www.grammar-monster.com
[14:21:32] <AzumaHazuki> yum, spelt
[14:29:05] <FatPhil> Yup, another thing you can make beer from, so I approve.
[14:44:20] <c0lo> "Society operates at the macro level at this point, not the micro level. You're not going to save the world by having coffee with the old lady next door."
[14:49:07] <FatPhil> Nope, you can only save the world by unplugging your phone charger once you've stopped charging your phone.
[15:13:13] <c0lo> https://twitter.com
[15:13:13] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[15:13:55] <c0lo> "... to again suggest that Meghan Markle and Prince Harry killed Prince Philip with their Oprah interview."
[15:18:08] <pinchy> died at 99 on the 9th day. 99th day of the year hehe
[15:19:13] <pinchy> those masons sure like there gematria
[15:19:39] <chromas> Too many 9s. Herman Cain's gotta be involved
[15:24:32] * chromas sends out a forensics team to investigate for pizzaprints
[15:26:36] <bacterium> 6 pages + ...
[15:26:39] <bacterium> mt
[15:26:42] <bacterium> satan++
[15:26:42] <Bender> karma - satan: 18
[15:57:03] <FatPhil> This brings new meaning to "cracked teeth": https://www.dailymail.co.uk
[15:57:06] <systemd> ^ 03What Hunter Biden left OUT of his tell-all memoir revealed
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[18:51:39] <Runaway1956> Ughhh - is this a new day?
[18:53:59] <Runaway1956> Oh, the sun is up. Power out, system down, the computer time said 1:50 which is early morning - it's actually 13:50.
[18:54:24] <Runaway1956> Double check by looking out the window, and I see the sun is trying to shine through the rain and clouds
[18:55:02] * Runaway1956 nurses first cup of coffee, trying to figure out where and when I am
[19:11:03] <bacterium> coffee++
[19:11:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5528
[19:17:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Now Supports Rust for Android OS Development - https://sylnt.us - Ironing-out-bugs
[19:29:24] <Runaway1956> coffee++ I'm ready for another cup, thank you
[19:29:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5529
[20:02:53] <Deucalion> Runaway1956, It is 2096. I take it you had a good sleep?
[21:03:23] <Runaway1956> lol Deucalion
[21:36:05] <FatPhil> happy 140th birthday!
[21:46:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Muon G-2 Experiment Hints at Mysterious New Physics - https://sylnt.us
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