#soylent | Logs for 2021-04-03

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[00:00:50] <Runaway1956> =submit https://futurism.com
[00:00:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NASA Says There are Still Easter Eggs on its Mars Rover That Nobody Has Discovered" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:08:56] <Runaway1956> Are those Easter eggs, or Mars eggs?
[00:22:06] <Bytram> if the date's the same, then I suspect the eggs are the same
[00:22:47] <Bytram> Unless, of course, you are looking away from the Sun... those are wester eggs!
[00:27:25] <FatPhil> you know nothing
[00:27:54] <FatPhil> wiener, wiener wiener, ...
[00:28:11] <FatPhil> nope, I don't miss that series
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[00:37:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Colluded With Publishers to Fix Book Prices, Class-Action Suit Alleges - https://sylnt.us - wet-water
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[01:56:57] <Bytram> =cite https://www.researchgate.net
[01:56:59] <systemd> Journal Reference: M Tajmar, O Neunzig, M Weikert. (PDF) High-Accuracy Thrust Measurements of the EMDrive and Elimination of False-Positive Effects, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/http://dx.doi.org/">http://dx.doi.org/</a>)
[01:57:11] <Bytram> LOL!
[01:58:27] <Bytram> I really didn't expect anything, but that sure is one wild DOI!!! Let
[01:58:38] <Bytram> Les's see what the next two do
[01:58:54] <Bytram> =cite https://www.researchgate.net
[01:58:55] <systemd> Journal Reference: O Neunzig, M Weikert, M Tajmar. (PDF) Thrust Measurements and Evaluation of Asymmetric Infrared Laser Resonators for Space Propulsion, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/http://dx.doi.org/">http://dx.doi.org/</a>)
[01:59:11] <Bytram> .
[01:59:17] <Bytram> =cite https://www.researchgate.net
[01:59:19] <systemd> Journal Reference: Maxime Monette, Matthias Kößling, Oliver Neunzig, et al. (PDF) The SpaceDrive Project – Mach-Effect Thruster Experiments on High-Precision Balances in Vacuum, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/http://dx.doi.org/">http://dx.doi.org/</a>)
[02:36:18] <Runaway1956> LOL, EF actually cares about the stupid game?
[03:16:17] <Runaway1956> Joe Biden says, "I don't know where the dogs learned to bite people like that" as Joe lunges for the throat of a Secret Service agent who passes too closely to Joe's food bowl.
[03:25:59] <Runaway1956> https://globalnews.ca
[03:26:00] <systemd> ^ 03Taiwan seeks to arrest truck driver who may have caused train crash that killed 50 - National
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[05:14:30] <Jorge_Floyd> Yo niggers
[05:16:14] <Jorge_Floyd> Yang uzo here. Free UBI fo dem niggaz
[05:16:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quantum Motion Unveils Potentially Scalable Qubit With 9-Second Quantum State Lifetime - https://sylnt.us - neither-here-nor-there
[05:17:42] <Jorge_Floyd> Kikes.
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[08:09:09] <c0lo> 'straya, where those things find you eventually https://youtu.be
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[12:22:31] <FatPhil> =submit https://sscspace.com
[12:22:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03No Technical Test Flight for SCoPEx From Esrange" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:26:15] <FatPhil> ✨
[12:55:54] <FatPhil> c0lo: time to run that headline again...
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[14:05:15] <chromas> FatPhil: was there another shooty mcshootface?
[14:23:52] <FatPhil> At Least 3 Killed, 4 Injured In North Carolina
[14:24:15] <FatPhil> Barely worth a mention. I've done worse farts.
[14:44:56] <chromas> covid shootings
[14:45:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Says there are Still Easter Eggs on its Mars Rover that Nobody has Discovered - https://sylnt.us - wheelie-good-hints
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[17:36:53] <c0lo> =submit doi-10.1093/mnrasl/slab030 https://www.universetoday.com
[17:36:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Satellites Have Brightened the Skies by About 10% Across the Entire Planet - Universe Today" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:37:17] <c0lo> (cool. dist-upgrade done)
[18:07:57] <FatPhil> I call bullshit on that article.
[18:08:13] <FatPhil> Best of all, that article calls bullshit on itself!
[18:11:28] <chromas> the article certainly doesn't match up with the title
[18:11:40] <chromas> "If all the planned mega-constellations go up, within just a few years our sky will be 10% brighter across much of the planet."
[18:11:45] <chromas> buuuuut, I thought it already did
[18:12:19] * chromas only read it 'cause of the big controversy it stirred up in irc
[18:39:56] <Runaway1956> if anyone interested, this is probably the most detailed account of that train derailment
[18:39:59] <Runaway1956> https://www.scmp.com
[18:40:01] <systemd> ^ 03Taiwan truck driver in court over fatal train crash
[18:40:25] <Runaway1956> They not only invetigating the driver, but the construction site manager and anyone else involved
[18:40:41] <Runaway1956> I would surely hate to be the mechanic who recently worked on that vehicle
[18:45:56] <FatPhil> yeah - "models" ... "if" ... "within a few years" ... "much of" =/=> "have" ... "entire"
[19:28:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Defective Macs "Knowingly Sold By Apple" in Stage Light Case - https://sylnt.us
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[21:12:39] <Runaway1956> https://www.foxnews.com
[21:12:40] <systemd> ^ 03NYPD gives cops new orders to let people smoke weed in public
[21:17:11] <Runaway1956> https://globalnews.ca
[21:17:13] <systemd> ^ 03Shipping backlog in Suez Canal to end today, official says - National
[21:17:45] <Runaway1956> I didn't really believe that headline, so I looked at the Ever Given page, and scrolled to both ends of the canal
[21:18:13] <Runaway1956> the traffic jam has shrunk dramatically, but it looks like some ships are still backed up
[21:18:31] <Runaway1956> https://www.vesselfinder.com
[21:18:33] <systemd> ^ 03EVER GIVEN Current position (Container Ship, IMO 9811000) - VesselFinder
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[21:26:26] <Deucalion> The cheap cheap hosting provider for my shit domains cracks me up... my hosting is to be be improved by migrating to *all new* cPanel hosting, cutting edge. Despite that's what it was before they bought my then hosting provider 20yrs ago, followed by "moving you to cutting edge cloud hosting".... WHM/cPanel.... I used to sell that ages ago. What was old is new again, don't even bother giving it a new name just sell it again.
[21:27:45] <Deucalion> I suppose in a society where no-one has memory of anything but what their phone tells them they remember, this is easy.
[21:28:37] * Deucalion mulls going back to WHM/cPanel hosting for lolz, giggles and $$$. Cutting edge hosting. No cloud.
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[21:32:33] * Deucalion puts a corpse on the fireplace
[21:32:45] * Deucalion stoke the fire
[21:33:03] * Deucalion wonders will anyone notice?
[21:33:43] * Deucalion brings in some pigs and puts them by the bar
[21:34:02] <Runaway1956> What else do you do, when you run out of places to hide the bodies?
[21:36:41] <Deucalion> You never run out of places when there is no body when it is turned to compost or ash. Do you mean in an emergency situation?
[21:41:04] <FatPhil> not going to make jerky? seems like a waste
[21:50:13] <Deucalion> Leave no evidence. I'm sure these days the plod can get DNA evidence from dessicated flesh, a cat, a bat's eyelid and make it stand up in court etc. to prove any individual was 1000 miles away robbing a bank even though the individual is dead. Best to be sure.
[21:51:17] <Deucalion> Besides.... have you tasted human meat jerky? However spiced??
[21:52:25] * Deucalion opens a chilled bottle of Chianti
[21:53:26] * Deucalion passes FatPhil a rare cellar IPA
[21:59:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> =cite https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
[21:59:28] <systemd> Journal Reference: Fostering Responsible Research on Ancient DNA - PubMed, <cite>American journal of human genetics</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ajhg.2020.06.017">10.1016/j.ajhg.2020.06.017</a>)
[22:00:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> tl;dr If science conflicts with the narrative, bury it.
[22:01:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, really. "Folklore and myths must be taken into account, and we must discourage the idea of science "controlling the narrative."
[22:02:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> =submit https://notthebee.com
[22:02:11] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Paleogeneticists are Instructed to be Careful That Science Doesn't End Up “Controlling the Narrati" (51p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:02:43] <chromas> Intedasting
[22:02:49] <chromas> That string isn't in the document
[22:03:55] <c0lo> =submit https://www.coindesk.com
[22:03:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Decentralized DNS Project Handshake Patches Inflation Bug - CoinDesk" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:05:05] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, do you propose that science has "all the answers" to any question posed? Or do you accept that science is an approach to gain understanding of that we do not understand by experimentation. It is a just a methodology to gain understanding.
[22:05:20] <chromas> are they using a dht for dns?
[22:06:00] <chromas> oh, coindesk
[22:06:18] <chromas> PUT IT ON THE BLOCKCHAIN!
[22:08:17] * Deucalion migrates SN IRC to future SNIRC on blockchain... there will be no taking back what you said...
[22:08:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, i propose when we have proof of one thing, we do not say another because we wish it were true or because it might cause problems to speak the truth.
[22:08:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, from the talk i believe not the paper.
[22:09:26] <c0lo> =submit doi-10.1103/PhysRevB.103.L100101 https://www.livescience.com
[22:09:30] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Lab-made Hexagonal Diamonds are Stronger Than the Real Thing" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:10:04] * Deucalion puts more logs on the fire.... don't ask me what they are made of... bought them at the gas station officer. :/
[22:13:02] <FatPhil> Deucalion: g/f got her PhD from an Anthropology dept., I've never asked whether..., the subject isn't quite taboo, but you never ask someone who returns from fieldwork...
[22:13:30] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, concur. No conflation by association. Sounds good. Always speak the truth no matter how uncomfortable others find it ruins their fiefdoms.
[22:14:08] * Deucalion looks at tattered ruin of career... I spoke truth to power and paid :) I will not concede.
[22:14:31] <FatPhil> I spoke truth to a wind-up-motor once, does that count?
[22:16:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, your fly is open
[22:17:29] <Deucalion> FatPhil, much like you don't ask a friend or relative who has military service "did you ever kill anyone?" - just no. Regardless your thoughts on military action that question should never be posed.
[22:17:48] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, you wish
[22:17:56] <FatPhil> Analogy good
[22:18:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> a) they don't particularly want to remember and b) they might tell you
[22:20:28] <chromas> Hm, so never ask an anthropologist if she's killed anyone. Got it
[22:20:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> but that's personal not relevant facts, unless you particularly need to know for a specific reason.
[22:22:07] <Deucalion> I have a US relative that voluntarily recounted experience of their experience during Iraq 1 to me. Changed my perception of life what he was expected to do and did.
[22:22:32] <chromas> I only ask because I don't remember so many bones decorating the place
[22:23:13] <Bytram> =cite https://journals.aps.org
[22:23:15] <systemd> Journal Reference: Travis J. Volz, Y. M. Gupta. Elastic moduli of hexagonal diamond and cubic diamond formed under shock compression, <cite>Physical Review B</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1103/PhysRevB.103.L100101">10.1103/PhysRevB.103.L100101</a>)
[22:23:17] <chromas> =yt south park vietnam
[22:23:17] <systemd> https://youtube.com - South Park: How They Won the War (02:31; 119,435 views; 👍1,907 👎30)
[22:29:47] <Bytram> Before I go off searching, does anyone know how to review (and selectively delete) cookies on FireFox (87.0 (64 bit)) on Linux if that matters
[22:30:29] <FatPhil> yes!
[22:30:31] <Bytram> I suspect I've collected some crumbs and I'd like to weed them out.
[22:30:38] <Bytram> Good!
[22:30:52] <FatPhil> it was a mess
[22:31:07] <FatPhil> preferences or settings or someshit is the starting point
[22:31:35] <FatPhil> then it's called privacy and security I think, as they merged it from the old sane layout
[22:32:00] <Bytram> I had had an addon w/ PaleMoon that I could set to remove all cookies at a set time after I closed a page
[22:32:01] <FatPhil> and in that page, it's all freaking stupid - you use radio buttons to select which of the settings you can operate on
[22:33:06] <Bytram> So phone users can somehow manage something, to the detriment of the rest of us who have a keyboard at the ready.
[22:33:07] <chromas> There's a search field in the preferences view
[22:33:21] <FatPhil> "Cookies and Site Data"
[22:33:38] <FatPhil> Apparently, g/f's using "433 MB" on cookies
[22:33:49] <Bytram> zoinks!
[22:34:19] <FatPhil> there's "clear data" "manage data" and "manage preferences"
[22:35:03] <FatPhil> She only has one cookie
[22:35:14] <FatPhil> firefox apparentyly just likes exagerating
[22:35:14] <c0lo> =submit doi-10.5194/tc-15-1501-2021 https://phys.org
[22:35:21] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Evidence of Antarctic Glacier's Tipping Point Confirmed for First Time" (23p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:36:18] <FatPhil> but in that privacy/security panel, go for full custom, that gives you about 20% of the control you wish you had, but is better than any of the other options.
[22:36:23] <chromas> Fake news, FatPhil. That's cookies and data. Browsers have an api to allow sites to store random junk in the browser
[22:36:42] <FatPhil> yeah, there's no private data
[22:36:46] <FatPhil> she has one cookie
[22:37:01] <chromas> Prove it
[22:37:05] <FatPhil> I delete that one cookie, and she's back down to 0 MB.
[22:37:09] <chromas> It's private data. You're not allowed to know what's in it
[22:37:51] <chromas> or maybe it was a yuuuge cookie
[22:38:25] <FatPhil> Or maybe, just maybe, their printf("%s",...) was accessing the wrong prefix?
[22:38:57] * Deucalion staggers around
[22:39:31] <FatPhil> Who's going to be first to tell Deucalion that he's staggering?
[22:41:50] * Deucalion has self awareness.
[22:42:01] * Deucalion staggers into the fireplace.
[22:42:17] <Deucalion> This is fine.... it's just nice and warm.
[22:43:12] <c0lo> =submit doi-10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.120.050418 https://www.utsouthwestern.edu
[22:43:15] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Even With Regular Exercise, Astronaut’s Heart Left Smaller After a Year in Space : Newsroom - UT S" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:43:51] <Bytram> FOUND IT! In 64-bit FireFox 87.0, load: about:preferences#privacy Then scroll down to "Cookies and Site Data". There are three buttons hidden in plain sight on the RIGHT-HAND side of the page. [Clear Data...] / [Manage Data...] / [Manage Exceptions...]
[22:45:52] <Deucalion> Welcome to the options advertised but impossible to find except to the intrepid QA guy.
[22:47:54] <Bytram> How 'bout them apples? (local file) has 10 cookies
[22:48:08] <Bytram> I don't even have a web server installed!
[22:48:42] <Deucalion> Cookies set by your own choice of browser.
[22:49:35] <Bytram> it' a monster!
[22:49:36] <Deucalion> Cookie inception. Got to set a cookie to record that you want no cookies.
[22:50:39] <Deucalion> You allow it to set NO cookies so it dies in an infinite spiral of denying itself of trying to set no cookies.
[22:51:15] <Deucalion> Talk about masochism
[22:51:45] <Bytram> =yt we are family
[22:51:46] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Sister Sledge - We Are Family (03:31; 13,800,626 views; 👍66,604 👎2,732)
[22:52:16] * Deucalion evaporates before bad things
[23:27:57] * FatPhil wonders which bit about "01:33 <+FatPhil> "Cookies and Site Data"" was less useful than "Then scroll down to "Cookies and Site Data""
[23:28:38] <FatPhil> and which bit of "01:34 <+FatPhil> there's "clear data" "manage data" and "manage preferences"" was less useful than "There are three buttons hidden in plain sight on the RIGHT-HAND side of the page. [Clear Data...] / [Manage Data...] / [Manage Exceptions...]"
[23:29:05] <Runaway1956> LOLOLOLOL
[23:29:27] <Runaway1956> Earlier headlines said "Rapper DMX hospitalized after drug overdose"
[23:29:48] <Runaway1956> Current headlines claim "Rapper DMX hospitalized after heart attack"
[23:29:58] <Runaway1956> Gotta get that narrative early on!
[23:30:04] <FatPhil> OK, I got one of the words wrong, it was "Permissions", but apparently firefox don't care about that either, as it's changed again since then, and I had to run into a different room to pull up that window
[23:30:35] * Runaway1956 also has windows in different rooms
[23:31:10] <FatPhil> drug overdoses can cause heart attacks, are they aiming for proximal or ultimate cause?
[23:31:29] <Runaway1956> I think they're aiming at sanitizing the dude's image
[23:31:43] <FatPhil> then why did they include the most damning of words ...
[23:31:46] <FatPhil> "rapper"
[23:32:00] <Runaway1956> damned if you rap, damned if you don't rap
[23:32:25] <FatPhil> what was on his rap sheet?
[23:32:39] * Runaway1956 doesn't know where to look
[23:37:22] <FatPhil> I notice that this particular artiste was in a popular beat combo called "Murder Inc."
[23:38:22] <FatPhil> One wonders whether he aligns himself with the jewish or the italian components of that prior popular beating combo of the same name.
[23:43:01] <FatPhil> I shouldn't tell you this, as I might have to kill you, but g/f's italian heritage does involve repeated name changes, so that connections couldn't be traced...
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[23:45:12] <Runaway1956> Don't worry about it, I'm hard of hearing and didn't hear what you said
[23:45:17] <FatPhil> jewst in time!
[23:45:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Sweet, I got a spam mod for a very obviously non-copypaste troll.
[23:45:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I guess this is what one could call, White fragility.
[23:45:56] <Runaway1956> What do you want, a bacon mod?
[23:46:25] <FatPhil> all glory to the bacon mod
[23:46:40] <Runaway1956> all bacon to the glory mod
[23:46:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Just pushing the limits as usual, like those described in my post unfairly marked spam.
[23:47:20] <Runaway1956> It posts the link to IRC or it gets the belt again
[23:47:42] <Ethanol-fueled> https://soylentnews.org
[23:47:43] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Defective Macs "Knowingly Sold By Apple" in Stage Light Case ( https://soylentnews.org )
[23:48:08] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhh, now you can bitch and whine, now that you've provided evidence
[23:48:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahahah
[23:48:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Eh, i would expect the mod to stand for 24 hours or so.
[23:48:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Since I have offended the delicate sensibilities of the privileged Whites.
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[23:50:05] <Runaway1956> Some people like whine and cheese, others prefer whine and run.
[23:51:10] <Subsentient> What's EF's issue with genocide? It's not a party till the death camps open for business!
[23:51:42] <Runaway1956> EF has more issues than just genocide
[23:52:03] <Runaway1956> Some years ago, the boy spread his wings, flew up high, and saw how big the world is
[23:52:20] <Runaway1956> he flew straight back to his nest in Sandy Dego, and won't leave again.
[23:52:55] <Runaway1956> Can't say as I blame him - Bahhston can be a scary place.
[23:56:29] <Runaway1956> With just a little cheating in FreeCiv, you can launch your spaceship before the year 3000 BC
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[23:56:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Ah, so that's how it woiks.
[23:57:10] <Runaway1956> not really
[23:57:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Like that arcade game Killa Instank
[23:57:17] <Ethanol-fueled> combos.
[23:57:57] <Ethanol-fueled> throw a spam followed by a lesser negative, the lesser will obscure which post took you outta 'da game.
[23:58:24] <Ethanol-fueled> So hunting becomes more difficult after a deep karma drop.
[23:58:30] <Runaway1956> Did you ever visit the Combat Zone, EF?
[23:59:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Yes. My team was hunting the CIA's militia, the CIA's militia was hunting my troops.