#soylent | Logs for 2021-03-30
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[00:16:10] <AzumaHazuki> that fakefuck person seems to have a real bee in his bonnet, did anyone notice?
[00:18:25] <FatPhil> Our survey said that 94% of people have noticed that.
[00:19:39] <FatPhil> sheesh, is that the time :-o
[00:21:09] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://newatlas.com
[00:21:13] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Concerns Raised Over Safety of Common Food Preservative" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:21:52] <AzumaHazuki> i think my favorite part of that guy's rambling is accusing me of being a guy for, apparently, not being sufficiently feminine by his standards? Psh, like he'd be the first
[00:39:24] <Runaway1956> Someone has the hots for Fakefuck now? Interesting . . .
[00:54:28] <c0lo> Runaway1956: s/hots for/hots of/
[00:54:28] <SedBot> <c0lo> <Runaway1956> Someone has the hots of Fakefuck now? Interesting . . .
[00:54:55] <Runaway1956> https://www.sott.net
[00:54:57] <systemd> ^ 03Michel Foucault, most-cited academic ever, and father of woke ideology, outed as pedophile -- Sott.net
[00:55:00] <c0lo> ... To be exact and refrain from button pushing
[01:07:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - At&T Lobbies Against Nationwide Fiber, Says 10Mbps Uploads Are Good Enough - https://sylnt.us - feet-dragging
[01:07:06] <AzumaHazuki> lolwut. why this weird insistence on thinking i "have the hots" for creeps? it's two small steps off from "I'm gonna rape you straight you fucking dyke"
[01:14:27] <kyonko> its just a bad day in a bad era
[01:14:35] <chromas> btrfs raped my data once
[01:14:47] <kyonko> ntfs has its shenanigans
[01:14:54] <kyonko> can't be trusted
[01:15:16] <kyonko> I lost 2TB because of windows 10
[01:15:50] <AzumaHazuki> why even use Windows to begin with? I have XP running in Virtualbox for my MIDI sequencer but that's it, and only because WINE won't run it
[01:16:10] <kyonko> I'm on freebsd 12.2 console and have an uptime of weeks
[01:16:26] <kyonko> it wasn't....... easy
[01:16:34] <kyonko> nothing is easy
[01:16:55] <kyonko> irssi doesn't have ssl/tls shenanigans
[01:16:55] <AzumaHazuki> freebsd's easier to install than friggin' gentoo. faster, anyway
[01:17:10] <kyonko> well, freebsd is like slackware, the installer is complete
[01:17:20] <kyonko> no initrd on slackware?
[01:17:24] <kyonko> no bootloader on freebsd?
[01:17:34] <kyonko> the fuck am I supposed to do with this?
[01:18:05] <kyonko> whatever, I got it to work
[01:18:23] <kyonko> I think the end game goal is a samizdat sort of thing. but whats the fucking point of anything at all
[01:18:24] <AzumaHazuki> freebsd has a bootloader. else it couldn't, y'know, boot...?
[01:18:34] <kyonko> yeah its called boot0
[01:18:37] <kyonko> thats the mbr
[01:18:44] <kyonko> then there is boot1 for the partition vbr
[01:19:01] <kyonko> boot0 can launch lilo or freedos on another partition
[01:19:15] <kyonko> right now I am just basking in the uptime goodness
[01:19:52] <kyonko> you need freedos to even check true hard disk drive geometry
[01:20:53] <kyonko> the god damn BIOS really believes sdcards and usb thumb drives are spinning disks
[01:21:04] <kyonko> throw in a USB keyboard and mouse for more lulz
[01:21:13] <kyonko> the fuck is going on anymore, I just don't know
[01:22:47] <chromas> https://www.businessinsider.com
[01:22:48] <systemd> ^ 03A 50-Year-Old Man Used Filters to Convince People He Was a Young Woman
[01:23:09] <chromas> hOPE HE MADE BANK
[01:23:18] <chromas> thought I disabled caps lock
[01:23:28] <chromas> key shouldn't even exist
[01:23:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://notthebee.com
[01:23:52] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:24:17] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:25:32] <chromas> Big Mask is only interested in masks before they're aborted. Once they're out of the packaging, they don't care anymore
[01:26:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://notthebee.com
[01:26:08] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:26:33] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:26:52] <chromas> does mspaint make it tech-related?
[01:27:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ms paint and copyright idiocy both, i figure it's good weekend fodder if nothing else.
[01:27:34] <kyonko> didn't windows 10 kill mspaint?
[01:28:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> but this one? this one's what starts the revolution: https://notthebee.com
[01:28:03] <systemd> ^ 03LINE CROSSED: Biden plans to tax our bacon and Americans have thoughts
[01:28:10] <kyonko> I nuked the god damn windows 10 netbook spinning disks and took out the drive, turns out the netbook broke because of that
[01:28:11] <AzumaHazuki> that is the least of Win10's sins
[01:28:31] <chromas> from the sin-tax-error dept.
[01:28:48] <kyonko> Win10 doesn't want you to have uptime
[01:28:57] <kyonko> please turn off your computer you sick fuck
[01:29:41] <AzumaHazuki> general purpose computing was too good for most people i think :/ the popularity of locked-down phones, and people making their fucking phone their primary device, attests to that. what a tragedy
[01:30:03] <AzumaHazuki> so now those of us with a triple digit IQ who can handle an interface more complex than the one used for training chimpanzees have to suffer
[01:30:40] <kyonko> apple mac isn't much better
[01:30:47] <kyonko> IOS, 100% useless
[01:30:54] <kyonko> chromeos is ok
[01:30:57] <kyonko> chromebooks are ok
[01:30:59] <kyonko> barely
[01:31:26] <AzumaHazuki> i finally got a new phone, a pixel4a, a little while ago. first thing i did after screenglass and case was wipe it out and flash LineageOS onto it.
[01:31:47] <kyonko> its interesting google allows you to do that
[01:31:54] <kyonko> that is so weird
[01:32:18] <bacteria> only so they can upgrade to BrickOS later
[01:32:26] <AzumaHazuki> i don't think they allow it so much as "forgot to close it off"
[01:32:42] <chromas> from the wink dept.
[01:34:57] <AzumaHazuki> right...time for work. we lost two people and a third is on extended leave, so i may very well be taking some serious overtime soon
[01:35:24] <kyonko> don't tell me, its people with kids
[01:35:40] <kyonko> the kiddy people always get the job because they are tax incentives for employers
[01:36:05] <AzumaHazuki> no, it was some college girl who abandoned the job (three absences) while on probation, some other one we don't know why yet, and an older lady who's been having health issues
[01:36:12] <kyonko> mean while the base of the tax pyramid is childless adults and teens who probably have shitty home life situations
[01:36:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> new coronaids cases down by a bit under half since tx ditched the mandatory blah blah's.
[01:36:41] <kyonko> what the fuck does health even mean after the 3-11-20 bullshit
[01:36:43] <AzumaHazuki> for all that i think i made a poor first impression, the boss really seems to like me now if for no other reason than that I always show up, never call out, get it all done, and even set mornings up with their bags and unit-dose labels
[01:37:05] <kyonko> I TRUST AzumaHazuki can get the job done
[01:37:19] <kyonko> but labor fraud is power
[01:37:41] <AzumaHazuki> eh...on rounds/frontend anyway. my first "work in the IV room indepenently" shift is coming. it's going to be slow. boss says my sterile technique is excellent but my throughput is a bit low
[01:37:48] <AzumaHazuki> though that comes with experience, so...
[01:37:50] <kyonko> I keep telling people I don't have money to go out, and they don't get it
[01:37:54] <kyonko> why don't they get it?
[01:38:28] <kyonko> I'm just very very wary of law and rule breakers
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[01:39:10] <kyonko> people who break draconian rules really raise alarms in my brain
[01:40:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://linuxgizmos.com Now that is pretty damned nice. Beats the hell out of having to build and heat an enclosure.
[01:40:58] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
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[01:42:20] <kyonko> the lockdown won't end untill 1.5 years after 3-11-20
[01:42:31] <kyonko> in July of 2021
[01:42:45] <kyonko> lockdowns prevent deaths from mass shootings
[01:42:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's already gone in some states.
[01:42:48] <kyonko> in theory
[01:42:54] <kyonko> yeah its all a crock of shit
[01:42:57] <kyonko> but rules are rules
[01:43:00] <kyonko> otherwise, don't make rules
[01:46:41] <chromas> The people breaking the rules aren't the ones making them
[01:46:57] <bacteria> are you sure?
[01:47:08] <chromas> well
[01:47:21] <chromas> most of the people
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[01:49:18] <bacteria> you know, if biden was an old scratchy crumpled dollar bill, one could carefully unfold it to read 11bi4n la11den
[01:49:40] <c0lo> https://www.nytimes.com
[01:49:41] <systemd> ^ 03A Collapse Foretold: How Brazil’s Covid-19 Outbreak Overwhelmed Hospitals
[01:49:53] <chromas> that would certainly increase his beard factor
[01:50:06] <c0lo> "The patients began arriving at hospitals in Porto Alegre far sicker and younger than before."
[01:51:24] <c0lo> If youngsters begin dying in higher percentage,... I'll start raiding my popcorn stash.
[01:52:41] <chromas> Just put them in nursing homes again
[01:53:21] <bacteria> virus that makes people to become younger than before?
[01:53:39] * bacteria blushes
[01:53:46] <bacteria> i wonder if it's still single
[01:54:22] <chromas> Like global warming, it only affects the average
[01:55:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> good thing i'm above average then
[01:55:58] <chromas> in age or warmth?
[01:56:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> compassion and tact
[01:57:11] <kyonko> really in brazil?
[01:57:23] <kyonko> brazil has a bigger dismemberment, murder and body fluids problem
[01:57:35] <kyonko> you really shouldn't allow those people to have knives
[01:57:54] <chromas> or make sure everybody has knives
[01:58:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> well duh, where do you think brazilian waxing came from?
[01:58:16] <chromas> brazilianaires
[01:58:29] <kyonko> yeah, brazil is one of those countries with upward mobility
[01:58:30] <kyonko> like india
[01:58:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> rip my pubes out and there'll most assuredly be dismemberment and murder going on
[02:00:42] <chromas> pubic zirconium
[02:04:07] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[02:05:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> florida is banning vaccine passports. not just not giving them out, forbidding their use anywhere within the state for normal, everyday activities.
[02:06:55] <kyonko> who cares?
[02:06:55] <c0lo> bottom line, vaccine passports mean nothing for the virus. Not a big loss.
[02:07:03] <kyonko> I don't have money to travel
[02:07:20] <kyonko> I live on the border with mexico, don't have the social status or the money to even go across
[02:07:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i do. i like seeing states tell the feds to get bent when they push for idiocy.
[02:07:36] <kyonko> is like, is this the cover up for an epidemic of poverty?
[02:08:04] <kyonko> arizona has a decades long history with stranded hikers
[02:08:13] <kyonko> nothing was ever done about it, or ever will be
[02:08:19] <kyonko> its now lumped under covid19 deaths
[02:08:39] <kyonko> your beater car broke down on the road? covid19
[02:08:49] <c0lo> Well, TMB, one of the little guilty pleasures that were left to you at this age. Not gonna object to your kinks, why would I?
[02:09:07] <kyonko> all of this for a common cold going global
[02:09:12] <c0lo> It's inconsequential anyway.
[02:09:14] <kyonko> the global strain of cold
[02:09:19] <kyonko> I mean.... why?
[02:09:24] <kyonko> why all the ebola hysteria
[02:09:43] <kyonko> cold virus IS NOT hypothermia
[02:09:48] <kyonko> a fever is NOT hyperthermia
[02:09:55] <kyonko> drinking a soda is NOT hyperglycemia
[02:10:11] <kyonko> WHY DON'T PEOPLE FUCKING GET IT!?
[02:10:35] <kyonko> hyperglycemia is a scary motherfucking thing that happens when your body fat won't stop turning into sugar
[02:10:41] <c0lo> Yes, body temperature as a social construct, kyonko
[02:10:53] <kyonko> you need insulin for that, to maintain HOMEOSTASIS
[02:11:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, guilty? the states are supposed to be where the power is primarily concentrated. i feel no guilt in seeing them take a bit of it back instead of passing the buck.
[02:11:04] <kyonko> but metformin works too
[02:11:37] <kyonko> I know colds are super contagious
[02:11:47] <kyonko> so the chinpokomans weaponized the common cold?
[02:11:58] <c0lo> Ok, not guilty pleasures of yours. inconsequential anyway too.
[02:12:11] <kyonko> common cold: super contagious, almost impossible not to get infected, kills almosts nobody
[02:12:28] <kyonko> BUT ITS A CHINESE WMD BIO ATTACK AGAINST USA AND NATO
[02:12:48] <kyonko> the mers outbreak in saudi arabia was very very suspicious
[02:13:02] <kyonko> who could have released mers in saudi arabia>
[02:14:16] <kyonko> I do have this weird thing where it hurts when I cough in my throat
[02:14:25] <kyonko> but I got bacterial pneumonia TWICE in 2019
[02:14:33] <kyonko> or was it THRICE?
[02:14:47] <kyonko> may... thanksgiving then christmas/new years
[02:15:18] <kyonko> as soon as I got my antibiotics cleansing me in feburary..... ITS GOD DAMN CHINA VIRUS
[02:16:01] <kyonko> 2015, I got a "summer cold"
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[02:39:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> neat, cuomo's police reform circle jerk has a convicted cop killer on it.
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[02:54:08] <c0lo> responsibility while drunk? How about teaching the one while sober https://lawandcrime.com
[02:54:10] <systemd> ^ 03Oath Keeper Who Stormed Capitol Is Struggling to Cope Because He's a 'Family Man' with ‘No Previous Experience’ Being Jailed, Lawyers Claim
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[03:07:27] <c0lo> Runaway1956 may be interested https://www.esquire.com
[03:07:28] <systemd> ^ 03Koch Operatives' Phone Call on HR 1 Leaked to Jane Mayer at 'The New Yorker'
[03:36:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Delta-8-THC Sales Boom in the U.S. Due to "Loophole" - https://sylnt.us
[04:03:05] <Runaway1956> caps lock disables chromas
[04:06:01] <Runaway1956> Kock, as in "Koch Brothers" - it's certain to be corrupt as all hell - they're the same guys who backed a neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine
[04:10:12] <Runaway1956> And, yes, Citizen's United is an affront to any passing facsimile of a democracy, or even a republic
[04:10:57] <Runaway1956> Esquire? Seriously?
[04:14:10] <Runaway1956> That other link is funny c0lo - reminds me of the kid who broke down crying in court, "Can't I just go home to my parents?"
[04:14:32] <Runaway1956> WTF - people think they're all grown up and tough as nails, then they whine like babies
[04:17:14] <c0lo> Too long they been sheltered from the harshness of life, not enough punishment in small doses to teach them the responsibility. When the big lesson drops... surprise, that's no longer a game.
[04:44:30] <bacteria> https://www.democracynow.org
[04:44:32] <systemd> ^ 03Capitalism Without Accountability Is at Root of Suez Canal Shipping Crisis, Says Scholar Laleh Khalili
[04:46:47] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.vice.com Hey sailor! Come here often?
[04:46:50] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03A Scientist Taught AI to Generate Pickup Lines. the Results are Chaotic." (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:15:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> "Can I see your parts list" might actually work given the right situation
[05:16:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, refresh my memory, is anyone saying they're not responsible for their actions?
[05:44:22] <c0lo> TheMightyBuzzard, fill free to explain how the responsibility is assigned to the alleged rapist and I might agree
[05:49:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i didn't know there was any sex going on in the capitol, even voluntary. well aside from them fucking us citizens every chance they get.
[05:49:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> but i already did. check your site notifications.
[05:59:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh. i really need to learn better than to drink caffeine an hour before bedtime.
[06:01:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> three years ago i could drink a whole pot of coffee in the evening and not miss a lick of sleep. now a freaking cup of tea after dinner keeps me up.
[06:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, guess i'll go read until i'm tired.
[06:07:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Backdoor Disguised as Typo Fix Added to PHP Source Code - https://sylnt.us - glad-they-caught-it-in-time
[06:17:55] <c0lo> TheMightyBuzzard, I finally saw your answer.
[06:41:29] <c0lo> There, if you're still after some reading, I found the docket too.
[06:45:21] <FatPhil> I'm pretty sure that I've used "You're looking good today. Want snacks?"
[06:56:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AT&T Lobbies Against Nationwide Fiber, Says 10Mbps Uploads Are Good Enough - https://sylnt.us - feet-dragging
[07:27:25] <c0lo> Moar churches for TheMightyBuzzard https://news.gallup.com
[07:27:26] <systemd> ^ 03U.S. Church Membership Falls Below Majority for First Time
[07:28:14] <chromas> Everyone's switching to Popeye's?
[07:32:39] <c0lo> I hear the Q cult is quite attractive for religious types.
[07:32:57] <c0lo> =submit https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com
[07:33:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03What Biden's New Offshore 'Wind Energy Area' Means for N.J., N.Y. and U.S. Clean Energy" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:35:51] <c0lo> =submit https://www.cnbc.com
[07:35:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03VW Accidentally Leaks New Name for its U.S. Operations: Voltswagen" (7p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:39:48] <c0lo> =submit https://mashable.com
[07:39:50] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scientists Figured Out the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine's Code and Posted It on Github" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:51:21] <c0lo> =submit i'm-not-saying-it-was-bezos https://theintercept.com
[07:51:23] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Document: Amazon Security Staff Reported its Own Hostile Tweets as “Suspicious,” Fearing They’" (3p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:58:47] <c0lo> =submit https://www.autoblog.com
[07:58:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha to Make Interchangeable Bike Batteries" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:00:38] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theregister.com
[08:00:40] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Intel Accused of Wiretapping Because It Uses Analytics to Track Keystrokes, Mouse Movements on its W" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:37:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Discover How Animals Grow Their Pointy Body Parts - https://sylnt.us - does-it-also-explain-bosses'-pointy-hair?
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[12:02:36] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.vice.com from the maybe-NOW-they'll-pay-attention...? dept.
[12:02:42] <systemd> AzumaHazuki, 04submit failed: Rehash error: "No Spam Please!"
[12:02:55] <AzumaHazuki> really? vice.com is spam, or do you not like the word penis?
[12:15:48] <Bytram> Huh? Lemme go take a look... back soon
[12:17:49] <Bytram> don't see anything obvious...
[12:17:56] * Bytram loads story
[12:27:17] * Bytram notes after a quick read-through that nothing stands out
[12:27:27] * Bytram tries another tack
[12:41:40] <Bytram> found it!
[12:42:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you might wanna let her know you already rejected that story from me
[12:42:32] <Bytram> I did?
[12:42:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> check mrplow's subs for last week
[12:44:18] <Bytram> for future reference, the word that set off the rejection was "Viagra" as in: "I Took Female Viagra for a Week"
[12:45:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> we shouldn't still have those filters. haven't had pharmaceutical spam attempts in a long time.
[12:45:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll rip em out in a bit, need covfefe
[12:46:07] <Bytram> lol!
[12:46:14] <Bytram> thanks for the chuckle!
[12:48:21] <Bytram> I don't remember declining it. could it have been someone else?
[12:48:44] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ^^^
[12:52:29] <Bytram> suggestion? For all 'submission' filters that have an error message of 'No Spam Please!' set minimum_match to 999
[12:52:55] * Bytram is not exactly sure of the field name on the last one or the table name for that matter.
[12:53:37] <Bytram> Idea being that if we ever want to reinstate them, we still have the "interesting" keywords to hand.
[12:54:36] <Bytram> Also, how do we know we "haven't had pharmaceutical spam attempts in a long time." ??? Maybe the filter HAS been working?
[12:55:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> meant none of any flavor not just prick potency pills
[12:55:52] <Bytram> oh, okat, but I repeat my question
[12:56:02] <Bytram> how do we know they are NOT working?
[12:56:21] <Bytram> is there a log somewhere of everytime one of them is triggered?
[12:56:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> because none of any flavor. spammers are well known for getting around filters if they're just keyword based
[12:56:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that i know of
[13:00:43] <progo> anyone else a victim of Jira/BitBucket, here?
[13:00:59] <Bytram> never used 'em
[13:01:26] <progo> https://noagendasocial.com good morning user. please disregard whatever data access or edit you were going to make. it's time again to relearn how to use a form in our system
[13:01:27] <systemd> ^ 03progo Neanderthal in NYC (@progo@noagendasocial.com)
[13:01:54] <Bytram> so, in short, is absence of proof proof of absence?
[13:01:54] <progo> no bundling into releases; no scheduled announcements. just continuously changing the behavior of the front-end
[13:02:00] <Bytram> If nothing else, I
[13:02:28] <Bytram> If nothing else, I'd suggest making a backup copy of 'em somewhere before nuking 'em.
[13:02:48] <Bytram> prolly won't need it, but if we do, will be nice to have right at hand.
[13:03:02] <progo> oh sorry I didn't think the other thread was still going; didn't read it
[13:03:19] <Bytram> np!
[13:03:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, nobody having even tried to get around easy filters is a very good indication they're no longer necessary, yes.
[13:06:16] <c0lo> I many a country, viagra&all are OtC medicine, probs heaps of generics available depending on the region. No more patent protection too.
[13:06:43] <Bytram> for now at least, yes I'd agree, but all it takes is one wise guy seeing a new opportunity... I'd still say keep 'em with an absurdly high required repetition count. Subs are so infrequent that the performance hit of having these filters in pace is negligible.
[13:06:50] <c0lo> I don't think they'll be back, it lacks a reason for spam.
[13:07:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, they're no longer patent protected pecker potency pills
[13:07:22] <c0lo> troll-spamming-for-the-lulz at best.
[13:07:27] * Bytram tries to remember what table the filters are in
[13:07:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't alliteration awesome?
[13:07:59] <Ingar> now imagine lul is dutch for dick
[13:08:02] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: s/ll/l/
[13:08:02] <SedBot> <Bytram> <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't aliteration awesome?
[13:08:27] <Bytram> must say I found it quite effective ;(
[13:08:44] <Bytram> s/(/)/
[13:08:54] <Bytram> s/\(/\)/
[13:09:38] * c0lo missing the Di¢κ Niggers regexp wars. Eh, fun times.
[13:10:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot! tn is one governor's signature from constitutional carry!
[13:11:23] <Teckla> Yep, some machine language instructions set the carry flag!
[13:12:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, me too. had it pretty thoroughly solved in a single regex but the regex was way too bloody slow.
[13:13:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> and since the governor's the one who pushed the bill, i'm pretty sure it's getting signed.
[13:13:40] <c0lo> Eh, I had some more trick up the sleeve but you finally saw reason and drop it.
[13:14:19] <Bytram> finally! got 'em:
[13:14:37] <Bytram> mysql> select * from content_filters order by filter_id ;
[13:14:49] <Bytram> ...
[13:14:50] <Bytram> 50 rows in set (0.00 sec)
[13:16:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> never assign to seeing reason that which can be explained by boredom
[13:17:20] <Bytram> sigh
[13:17:30] <Bytram> mysql> select * from content_filters where err_message = 'No Spam Please!' order by filter_id ;
[13:17:45] <Bytram> 20 rows in set (0.00 sec)
[13:18:52] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Go ahead and nuke 'em if you wish; I now have a local copy of the content_filters table's contents
[13:19:14] <c0lo> I knew it. There had to be an alternative explanation for what it was the single exceptional case you acted rationally!
[13:19:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw. 999 is plenty disabled.
[13:19:29] <Bytram> Hmm, if there's ennui, is there offwee?
[13:19:45] <FatPhil> yes, on us
[13:20:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, zactly. if your explanation does not remotely fit well established precedent, assume you missed something.
[13:20:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, wee off
[13:20:49] <FatPhil> there's a local car outlet called "Catwees", I really think they should change their name.
[13:21:08] <Bytram> update content_filters set minimum_match = 999 where err_message = 'No Spam Please!' ;
[13:21:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: wee off? Speak for yerself! Ewe off! ;)
[13:22:19] <Bytram> FatPhil: s/ outlet/wash/
[13:22:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, better to update content_filters set minimum_match = 999 where id in(1, 2, 3, 4, ...);
[13:22:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> replace numbers with the relevant ids
[13:23:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> on account of it's possible no spam please is used in comment filters too
[13:23:19] <Bytram> mysql> select filter_id from content_filters where err_message = 'No Spam Please!' order by filter_id ;
[13:24:27] <FatPhil> I guess the punishment for making an undrinkably bad cup of coffee is having to drink it :(
[13:24:52] * Bytram just looked. saw *only* 'subj', 'story', and 'email', but point well taken!
[13:25:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, depends on how bad it is. i've had some that it would be a more pleasant alternative to intentionally spill it on your crotch
[13:25:52] <Bytram> nope. call it fancy names and then make a chain of stores that overcharge for it.
[13:26:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, that's some quality capitalism, that is!
[13:26:44] <Bytram> yeah, but what quality? good quality or bad quality?
[13:27:22] <Bytram> the word 'qualty' is by itself just a category and not an assessment
[13:27:52] <Bytram> me goes meta meta
[13:28:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i ain't had enough coffee to be QA'd yet this morning. holster it for another hour if ya would.
[13:28:29] <Bytram> oh... shoot?!
[13:28:35] <Bytram> ;)
[13:28:38] <Bytram> np
[13:29:22] <Bytram> actually, I've go a lot to get to today. not sure how much I'll get to hang around
[13:30:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg, i really do need coffee badly. i have an airplane level drinking problem.
[13:30:45] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: btw, just a correction. When earlier I saw you write about you rejected the story, I think you were referring to me (singular) and what I think you meant was you (plural -- editorial team)
[13:31:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't be so tense
[13:31:29] <Bytram> and I was pretty darn sure that I (singular) did not deline it.
[13:31:41] <Bytram> np, I'm past tense!
[13:32:03] <c0lo> Did you decirle it then?
[13:32:21] <FatPhil> TMB: did you actually sub it, or just post the link on-chan?
[13:32:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, made mrplow sub it
[13:32:45] <FatPhil> loggie
[13:33:00] <FatPhil> I seem to remember a couple of quips about the story at the time
[13:33:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> check his subs page if you wanna see the sub
[13:33:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> it is of course the quality sub one expects from MrPlow.
[13:34:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, i need nicotine and to refill my coffee cup
[13:37:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - OpenAI’s Text-Generating System GPT-3 Is Now Spewing Out 4.5 Billion Words a Day - https://sylnt.us
[13:54:28] <c0lo> Da fuck, really now? https://www.rollingstone.com
[13:54:29] <systemd> ^ 03By the End of Summer, Arkansas Doctors Can Refuse to Treat LGBTQ Patients
[14:01:32] <AzumaHazuki> see, THIS is cancel culture
[14:02:08] <AzumaHazuki> all the stupid alt-right looniebirds bitching about getting kicked off twitter need some perspective. it's hard to cancel someone harder than denying them medical care
[14:06:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, i'd fire any doctor that refused treatment because of someone's LGB status but the T brings in a whole other can of worms and Q is just meaningless in a medical sense.
[14:06:20] <AzumaHazuki> ...just thought of something: a Muslim doctor could refuse to treat a Christian patient because "my religion says he is an infidel whom Allah created to cast into the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones." That would get this one repealed right quick
[14:08:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> like not dealing with someone's allergies for T status? door, your ass, don't let it hit you. not wanting to participate in the trans-specific bits of someone's medical care? whatever, go do something else then, it's not like there isn't plenty needs doing or other doctors in the place.
[14:09:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/T/their T/
[14:10:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake systemd
[14:10:35] * MrPlow smakes systemd upside the head with 💩
[14:10:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake SedBot
[14:10:53] * MrPlow smakes SedBot upside the head with a SYNTAX ERROR ON LINE 12
[14:11:47] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: you don't want to force them to provide medical care, they may relaunch Tuskagee...
[14:12:59] <AzumaHazuki> i don't even know where to begin with this other than "burn Arkansas to the ground, salt the ashes, and have an exorcist do the works so it can't ever come back"
[14:13:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> could always just not move to arkansas. that way it shall ever remain not your problem.
[14:13:58] <FatPhil> There was a saying about Mississippi, I forget exactly what it was, but has Arkansas started to take its place?
[14:15:05] <FatPhil> https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:15:06] <systemd> ^ 03Thank God for Mississippi - Wikipedia
[14:17:32] <AzumaHazuki> and people wonder why i want out of this country. the US is terminally soul-sick. the fact that this was even considered means we've regressed, and worse, atomized socially past a point of no return
[14:17:41] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, I read the "others based on religious, moral, or ethical objections." in a larger sense.
[14:18:31] <c0lo> Like in I can refuse any MAGA hat on moral objections ground.
[14:19:13] <FatPhil> it's an insufficiently damped change of equilibrium position - it will settle eventually.
[14:19:34] * TheMightyBuzzard mails c0lo a Make Australia G'day Again hat
[14:19:55] <FatPhil> Do those exist? Damn, I want one!
[14:20:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> they should. i want a Make Anal Greek Again hat.
[14:22:20] <c0lo> I'm tempter to submit just for the "let the bashing begin" reasons: https://www.technocracy.news
[14:22:22] <systemd> ^ 03Bill Gates: Ready To Spray Chalk Dust Into Stratosphere To Cool Planet
[14:22:57] <AzumaHazuki> FatPhil, yes, the term "hysteresis" comes to mind
[14:23:23] <AzumaHazuki> unfortunately, that implies sufficient if not unlimited resilience in the necessary negative feedback systems. this...may not be the case
[14:23:39] <AzumaHazuki> it's like hanging heavier and heavier weights on a spring. eventually, the spring will simply snap
[14:24:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, as much fun as making MAGA jokes is, i got work needs doing.
[14:25:01] * TheMightyBuzzard fucks off
[14:28:14] <c0lo> https://www.scmp.com
[14:28:16] <systemd> ^ 03Pence lays groundwork for 2024 run, but could Trump trip him up?
[14:29:03] <AzumaHazuki> LOL. I would pay good money to watch that happen. There's something indescribably wonderful about watching evil people tear each other to shreds
[14:38:49] <c0lo> =submit EMPLOYERS CAN MANDATE A COVID-19 VACCINE https://www.natlawreview.com
[14:38:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03COVID-19: an Employer’s Role in Vaccination" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:06:59] <Bytram> gtg; laters!
[15:12:06] <c0lo> Wanna bet more will refuse to vaccinate because of this? https://www.reuters.com
[15:12:07] <systemd> ^ 03U.S., China positive on pandemic treaty idea: WHO's Tedros
[15:17:17] <c0lo> You guys are turning the corner up again? https://abcnews.go.com
[15:17:17] <systemd> ^ 03Why a 4th COVID-19 wave may look different than previous surges
[15:20:44] <AzumaHazuki> the world is fucking dumb. wake me up when the Silver Millennium starts
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[16:04:52] <FatPhil> So you want to wake up in the middle of Idiocracy?
[16:15:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Coffee Lake, Whiskey Lake, and Ryzen SBCs Run at -30 to 80°C With Auto Heat-Up Feature - https://sylnt.us
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[17:03:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.rt.com
[17:03:39] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[17:04:05] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[17:09:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.rt.com
[17:09:25] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[17:09:50] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[17:23:57] <fliptop> Howdy everyone
[17:24:17] <fliptop> Does anyone know if journal entries are omitted from indexing by search engines?
[17:26:30] <Runaway1956> https://www.45office.com
[17:26:31] <systemd> ^ 03Donald J. Trump 45th President
[17:27:03] <Runaway1956> I'd give him a piece of my mind, if I thought he listened to anything other than flowery praise
[17:29:50] <Runaway1956> https://www.news24.com
[17:29:53] <systemd> ^ 03News24
[17:31:29] <Runaway1956> I guess we don't need yet another sub on the Suez?
[17:31:40] <Runaway1956> https://asia.nikkei.com
[17:31:42] <systemd> ^ 03Nikkei Asia
[17:42:39] <Runaway1956> The Russians have taken a lesson from the US regarding mercenaries
[17:42:45] <Runaway1956> https://www.brookings.edu
[17:42:50] <systemd> ^ 03The US military must plan for encounters with private military companies
[18:06:10] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.cnbc.com
[18:06:13] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Amazon Loses Effort to Install Camera to Watch Counting of Ballots in Pivotal Union Vote" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:12:12] <progo> that's okay. they've already predicted with 95% accuracy how each person will vote
[18:16:18] <FatPhil> and to save time, done 95% of the counting in advance too
[18:40:41] <Runaway1956> https://www.upi.com
[18:40:42] <systemd> ^ 03Bear takes a stroll across suspension bridge at Tennessee theme park
[18:45:26] <chromas> progo: people still use bitbucket? I thought they already got rid of the only reason fo using it by dropping support for hg
[18:46:28] <progo> vendor-locked-in dev shops use Jira and BitBucket
[18:46:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Accused of Wiretapping Because It Uses Analytics to Track Keystrokes, Mouse on its Website - https://sylnt.us
[18:47:00] <progo> I wholeheartedly recommend SourceHut btw. Git and Hg. fully supports and encourages email based workflow if you like that sort of thing. front-end does not use javascript
[18:47:19] <progo> runs circles around GitHub and Atlassian's performance
[18:47:39] <chromas> I sorta looked at sourcehut but haven't tried it out
[18:48:08] <progo> it's stable but not labeled stable, and when it leaves "beta" then unpaid accounts can own assets
[18:48:12] <progo> you get what you pay for
[18:48:46] <progo> major missing feature at the top of the list right now is "organizations" to group repositories.
[18:48:50] <chromas> I wonder how it compares to phabricator and gitea
[18:49:10] <progo> gitea is MUCH simpler than the other two AFAICT
[18:49:12] * chromas should install it and give it a whack
[18:49:26] <progo> I looked at Phabricator and it started out with "you're going to need ~70 mysql databases. this is non-negotiable"
[18:49:57] <progo> sourcehut (free software version) owns the host(s) it's running on, and wants to use Alpine (minimal) linux distro
[18:50:00] <chromas> Yeah. I didn't have mysql for anything else so I just gave it full access
[18:50:24] <progo> IIRC gitea is a "one service among many on this host" kind of deployment
[18:51:58] <chromas> Makes sense that phabricator would want to take over everything since it was created at facebook. dunno about pizza the sourcehut
[18:52:49] <progo> facebook and sourcehut started with the assumption of a big deployment and dedicated servers, and didn't bother to design it to be a self-contained set of services among others on a shared host
[18:53:00] <progo> valid approach, but not for me
[18:53:17] <progo> I use sourcehut as a service from sourcehut
[18:54:04] <chromas> ah, firefox sync server has a similar problem
[18:54:22] <chromas> I think you need at least three different servers running for it to work
[18:54:26] <progo> ha ha. designed for all firefox users and not for just me?
[18:54:33] <progo> yuck
[18:54:48] <progo> why can't the client just be a simple webdav client for any shared folder?!
[18:55:00] <chromas> too easy
[18:55:00] <progo> well I guess it needs push
[18:55:08] <progo> but it hardly has to be complicated
[18:56:29] <chromas> when my nextcloud crapped out due to phpoo issues, I swaped it out for the apache webdav plugin + radicale for calendar/contact sync. So much snappier
[18:56:44] <chromas> simple++
[18:56:44] <Bender> karma - simple: 1
[18:56:49] <progo> nextcloud is quite heavy
[18:56:55] <progo> I still can't figure out how I feel about it
[18:57:06] <progo> bathroom break and meetings for me now
[18:57:26] <chromas> Ah, pee & tea
[19:02:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> fliptop, https://soylentnews.org
[19:41:23] <fliptop> TheMightyBuzzard: thanks
[19:42:10] <fliptop> Disallow: /~
[19:42:16] <fliptop> looks like that's a yes
[19:53:46] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: content_filters updated ; see details at: https://logs.sylnt.us
[19:53:47] <systemd> ^ 03#qa | Logs for 2021-03-30
[19:55:49] <Bytram> If need be, I have the results from: select * from content_filters order by filter_id ; copied locally in my ssh logs
[19:58:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> fliptop, journal.pl isn't blocked.
[19:59:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> neither is comments.pl
[20:02:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> fliptop, "Ideologically Modded AC Posts" site:soylentnews.org shows no copies of the journal entries but it does show a few links to them.
[20:03:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, lunch and a bit of relax accomplished. time for a nap.
[20:12:27] <fliptop> TheMightyBuzzard: All the links to my journal page begin w/ /~fliptop/journal
[20:18:24] <Bytram> fliptop: Whatcha tryin to do? Maybe I can help?
[20:19:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> fliptop, check the link on the comment count
[20:19:42] <fliptop> Bytram: Nothing really, just curious. I was going to journal about a programming problem I solved b/c I couldn't find any good examples on how to do it.
[20:20:04] <fliptop> I figured if it was indexed it would be helpful to others beyond users of the site.
[20:20:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's technically possible they could show up in a search engine but i'm not finding them in a quick search.
[20:21:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[20:21:19] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Rush Limbaugh, Conservative Talk-Radio Icon, is Dead at 70
[20:21:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> see what i mean?
[20:22:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you want em to show up, put up a page with a list of your journal entries using the comments.pl links and ask google to index your page.
[20:22:29] <fliptop> TheMightyBuzzard: yes I do.
[20:22:50] <Bytram> fliptop: I appreciate your thinking of us. have an idea
[20:23:02] <Bytram> =g internet wayback machine
[20:23:03] <systemd> https://archive.org - Wayback Machine - Internet Archive
[20:23:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> we generally don't want journals showing up by default cause it means we can just ignore spammers trying to use us for seo
[20:23:52] <fliptop> TheMightyBuzzard: Understood, that makes sense.
[20:24:04] <Bytram> IIRC, one can provide a specific URL on that site and instruct it to be archived
[20:24:14] <Bytram> dunno if that helps at all.
[20:24:50] <fliptop> Bytram: Thanks for the idea.
[20:25:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org should be useful if you want to script it
[20:25:39] <Bytram> also, what TheMightyBuzzard said. We already have more than enough 'fun' with spammers creating an account, posting a journal article, and (presumably) sending out links all over whereever
[20:26:27] <fliptop> Bytram: Yeah that sounds like a real blast.
[20:26:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> of the too much ex-lax kind, yeah
[20:26:50] <Bytram> They need a certain amount of karma before it shows up in the "Most Recent Journal Entries" slashbox which appears on the right-hand side of the main page (for those who enabled it(?))
[20:26:55] <Bytram> !uid
[20:26:55] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 14498, owned by StevenDet
[20:29:29] <Bytram> fliptop: yanno, if you'd consider doing it, submit it as a story. You've earned plenty of 'cred' in my eyes based on what I've seen you contribute to the site. I'd be happy to give it a close look. =)
[20:30:43] <fliptop> Bytram: Maybe, if it's not too long. I originally put up my journal entries about cheap IP cameras and perl when the site was young and figured it'd help get some content on there.
[20:31:23] <fliptop> I don't think this time it'll take 6 journal entries, after I write all the example code I'll see how long it is.
[20:31:25] <Bytram> fliptop: do you have an acct on our dev server?
[20:31:32] <fliptop> Bytran: and thanks for the compliment!
[20:31:44] <fliptop> Bytram: I don't believe so
[20:32:08] <Bytram> could practice on dev, iron out any wrinkles, and then submit to prod
[20:32:18] <Bytram> hmmm
[20:33:04] <fliptop> Heh I have 4 development servers of my own!!
[20:33:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, he has a uid below 5000, he has an account
[20:33:23] <Bytram> confirmed: dev uid 1666
[20:33:26] <fliptop> Soon to be 5
[20:33:28] <Bytram> =)
[20:34:08] <fliptop> I need to set up two database dev servers to work out the kinks in replication
[20:34:36] <Bytram> good luck with that!!!!
[20:35:03] <fliptop> Yeah, I use postgresql
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[20:41:58] <chromas> fliptop: have you seen those chineesium ip cams for about $20 that need internet explorer to configure?
[20:43:08] <chromas> some even have white & ir LEDs so they can switch on movement or detecting humanoids
[20:45:31] <fliptop> chromas: I have, what's funny is the expensive ones I buy for clients (level1) also require IE b/c they're still using ActiveX plugins.
[20:45:49] <fliptop> They can be configured using FF but you can't view a live stream
[20:45:55] <Bytram> o_O
[20:47:04] <Bytram> maybe you can get a discount on the expensive ones if you use inactivex?
[20:47:06] <fliptop> Some time ago I wrote most of a framework for an IP cam DVR that uses pure HTML5 but I never finished it due to other commitments. The level1 cams are nice b/c they have a good API for doing everything
[20:47:55] <chromas> These ones just complain that the browser version is too new
[20:48:09] <chromas> but maybe there's a haxx to get around that
[20:48:36] <Bytram> afk; break time
[20:48:49] <chromas> there used to be a firefox extension to embed IE in a tab
[20:48:56] <fliptop> I'm on a 1st name basis w/ one of their lead tech support guys. They've been very helpful in overcoming a lot of problems I've encountered setting up surveillance systems in a pure linux environment.
[20:49:07] <chromas> you can use any rando onvif viewer with 'em though
[20:49:15] <chromas> nice
[20:50:19] <fliptop> The only kicker is the main computer used to view their DVR must run Windows and use IE.
[20:51:05] <fliptop> They probably would've been very interested in my HTML5 framework. I just never had enough time
[20:51:35] <chromas> they just need to provide rtsp
[20:51:53] <fliptop> What's even funnier is their DVR runs linux. Weird
[20:52:17] <fliptop> They do provide rtsp but their software for using the DVR is heavily dependent on ActiveX
[21:08:08] <Bytram> fliptop: Zoom, pan, tilt, record-start, record-end, and send video stream. What else does it really need to be able to do?
[21:11:11] <fliptop> Bytram: those are the basics, you also need the ability to grab a timeline and move it back-and-forth to review a scene.
[21:11:54] <Bytram> send stream to a file; use a viewer and its controls to skip around?
[21:12:17] <fliptop> That's not easy to do on a file that's being appended to. Also ways to capture and save video when motion is triggered b/c disk space is limited, especially when you have a dozen or more cameras
[21:13:23] <fliptop> The way I set up motion capture was to have the user specify how many minutes before and after an event to have saved and, when triggered, I'd use ffmpeg to cut out that portion and make sure it wasn't overwritten.
[21:15:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cryptos More Mainstream; New Paypal Feature Lets Users Pay with Bitcoin, Ethereum, and More - https://sylnt.us
[21:16:07] <Bytram> I was greatly oversimplifying things, I know. Disks are cheap, though; cache thru a 250 GB SSD. Think of a Unix pipeline with small custom tools to handle various actions. That said, last time I messed with digital video was using an SGI Indigo and Octane just before AGP started making an appearance.
[21:16:41] * Bytram lobs in a fistfull of salt
[21:22:57] <chromas> Don't forget that commercial DVRs are required to use proprietary codecs so that you have to point your phone at the screen to export a video clip
[21:45:55] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
[21:45:57] <systemd> c0lo, 04submit failed: HTTP request returned status code 500 (Internal Server Error)
[21:50:43] <c0lo> =submit https://www.acluga.org
[21:50:45] <systemd> c0lo, 04submit failed: HTTP request returned status code 500 (Internal Server Error)
[21:51:17] <c0lo> #submit https://www.acluga.org
[21:51:18] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[21:51:43] <MrPlow> Something borked during submitting, check the logs.
[21:53:03] <chromas> Totally not suspicious
[21:53:53] <chromas> Works with Firfox 5,280 and curl
[21:56:57] <chromas> According to that page, black people need more snax and water than ypipo
[21:59:15] <kyonko> y-pi-po
[21:59:31] <kyonko> not water, flavor fluid
[21:59:43] <kyonko> flava flud
[21:59:52] <kyonko> flud ur therst nega
[22:03:11] <c0lo> chromas, bytram, error code 500 is generated by the submit.pl.
[22:03:35] <Bytram> ruh roh
[22:03:43] <c0lo> Same happens on ui.
[22:03:47] <chromas> ah that makes sense
[22:03:55] <chromas> c0lo++ # debugging
[22:03:55] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 32
[22:04:12] * Bytram just loaded: https://soylentnews.org
[22:04:18] <Bytram> no problem.
[22:04:33] <c0lo> =submit https://soylentnews.org
[22:04:34] <Bytram> chromas: what URL were you trying?
[22:04:41] <systemd> c0lo, 04submit failed: HTTP request returned status code 500 (Internal Server Error)
[22:04:55] <chromas> the acluga one
[22:05:11] <chromas> so that works but have you tried submitting something?
[22:05:40] <c0lo> I tried submitting the acluga from UI.
[22:06:24] <Bytram> no problems for me. I see a list of my prior story subs and...
[22:07:11] <Bytram> I just went further, constructed a story submission, clicked on preview (plain text) got this:
[22:07:11] <Bytram> OK
[22:07:13] <Bytram> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[22:07:15] <Bytram> Please contact the server administrator, admin@soylentnews.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
[22:07:18] <Bytram> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[22:07:31] <Bytram> urk
[22:08:45] <Bytram> Happened to already be on the DB on fluorine and a query worked fine
[22:09:32] <c0lo> Now try the insert too (grin)
[22:09:49] <chromas> Time to rip out rehash and replace it with a cloudscale mongodb python-on-rails framework substitute
[22:10:18] <c0lo> Since it happens at "Preview", does the DB backend has anyhing to do?
[22:11:10] <chromas> I know some stuff that makes it through preview doesn't make it all the way through submission, so it's bypassing something
[22:11:14] <c0lo> chromas, give dotnet a try and host it in Azure
[22:11:29] <chromas> for example, you can put emojis in the dept field but once you submit, they're converted to ?
[22:11:43] <chromas> or maybe that's just on story posting
[22:12:12] <Bytram> MCV -- model container view
[22:12:38] <chromas> Bytram: sl/ain/roll/
[22:12:40] <Bytram> AIUI, everything roundtrips from the UI
[22:13:20] <Bytram> but may go back and forth from UI and in-memory view of the data
[22:13:24] <kyonko> chromeos is not that bad
[22:13:36] <kyonko> compared to microsoft surface and mac/ios
[22:14:04] <chromas> in my XPerience, Windows is better on a tablet than android
[22:14:35] <chromas> You can use real desktop applications and stuff
[22:17:29] <kyonko> but not windows 10
[22:17:40] <kyonko> and windows 7 and 8 wont last for long
[22:17:49] <kyonko> and they ARE microsoft property
[22:18:14] <kyonko> its not like linux mint or freebsd where your copy is yours
[22:18:22] <kyonko> thats the problem
[22:18:38] <FatPhil> Americans: please educate me in the properties of "mesquite". Wikipedia says it can refer to a range of things, but the context I'm experiencing is "mesquite honey", as an adjunct for a beer. I don't think I've encountered it in person before.
[22:18:48] <kyonko> what do you think would happen if windows xp, vista, 7 and 8 where put in public domain?
[22:19:02] <chromas> it's a tree
[22:19:07] <kyonko> its mesquite sap FatPhil
[22:19:08] <FatPhil> I've heard of it in the context of smoking food.
[22:19:10] <kyonko> its like amber
[22:19:19] <Bytram> lots of 0-day bugs would appear
[22:19:38] <kyonko> its kinda hard to get a mesquite tree to grow big and produce sap
[22:19:54] * Bytram was *just* about to take a nap and is terribly fuzzy-brained atm
[22:20:02] <FatPhil> I like this, and I like a lot of the "tar"s that we put in beers. (birch often)
[22:20:11] <Bytram> (even moreso that usual)
[22:20:19] <chromas> mesquite honey is made by bees with access to mesquite trees
[22:20:25] <kyonko> yeah FatPhil I get it, but I can't drink unless I want to die soon
[22:20:39] <kyonko> I think they chip the sap and put that in the brew
[22:20:45] <FatPhil> In geological terms, you're going to die soon anywat
[22:20:45] <c0lo> =w Mesquite
[22:20:46] <systemd> Mesquite is a common name for several plants in the genus Prosopis, which contains over 40 species of small leguminous trees. They are native to the southwestern - https://en.wikipedia.org
[22:20:52] <FatPhil> "several plants"
[22:20:54] <c0lo> Has flower
[22:20:57] <kyonko> FatPhil in geological terms I never existed
[22:20:59] <c0lo> Attract bees
[22:21:14] <kyonko> The scientific term for mesquite is acacia, its like a fucking pine tree
[22:21:41] <kyonko> when I saw the sap as a kid, it looked attractive to me
[22:22:06] <chromas> so you ate it raw and here you are today
[22:22:11] <FatPhil> no "acacia" found on https://en.wikipedia.org
[22:22:12] <systemd> ^ 03Mesquite - Wikipedia
[22:22:12] <kyonko> but then shit happens when you put your hand on the tree trunk and a scorpion stings your hand and it looks like you are trying to do an MMA chin rip
[22:22:41] <kyonko> FatPhil its like, is a sequoia a pine tree?
[22:22:48] <kyonko> the biggest tree in the world
[22:23:07] <kyonko> the biggest trees in the world only exist in the california biome
[22:23:09] <c0lo> FatPhil you can try to replace it with manuka honey
[22:23:20] <c0lo> Equally exotic
[22:23:28] <kyonko> ants love mesquite sap
[22:23:43] <kyonko> they even get stuck in it, its a lot like amber
[22:23:46] <c0lo> As an european beer equiv
[22:24:01] * chromas emails FatPhil some american treedom
[22:24:05] * Bytram is struggling here. not sure where to start atm
[22:24:07] <FatPhil> kyonko: it's a conifer, not a pine
[22:24:12] <kyonko> FatPhil has his own trees to worry about
[22:24:27] <Bytram> keep getting distracted y in-channel banter
[22:24:29] * FatPhil 's g/f is an expert in the penus genus
[22:24:30] <c0lo> Guaranteed to attract suckers with extra money
[22:24:31] <kyonko> estonia is full of those pines with eye poking branches at the base of the trunk
[22:25:00] <Bytram> if anyone can help, pls meet me in #dev
[22:25:07] <FatPhil> So what do you smoke with when you're mesquite smoking, just the wood?
[22:25:24] <kyonko> FatPhil , smoking is used to preserve uh.... the meat without refrigeration, it is not cooking
[22:25:35] <FatPhil> irrelevant
[22:25:37] <kyonko> you can smoke before cooking, or you can cook then smoke
[22:25:41] <FatPhil> irrelevant
[22:25:55] <kyonko> tell me about your smoked eel
[22:25:57] <chromas> Yeah. Burn $wood, make $wood barbara queue
[22:26:31] <kyonko> you just hang a bunch of eels in a metal box with a wood fire on the bottom
[22:26:40] <kyonko> then you have eel beef jerkey
[22:27:12] <FatPhil> Well, anyway, this is a pretty OK beer. Mikkeller San Diego The Ocho
[22:27:14] <kyonko> we have mesquite wood fired pizza ovens in the hipster towns
[22:27:26] <FatPhil> that sounds nice!@
[22:27:26] <chromas> Did you check it for needles?
[22:27:30] <kyonko> did you get this beer shipped overnite?
[22:27:52] <FatPhil> we have some pretty good importers here
[22:28:07] <FatPhil> but it takes weeks/months for the products to reach shelvse
[22:28:07] <kyonko> I never drank baltika, but I saw it at the warehouses
[22:28:24] <kyonko> yeah, its scanned for radionucleides and fentanyl
[22:29:08] <chromas> if they find fentanyl, do they pay an independent scanner to come in and check it again?
[22:29:21] <kyonko> they call putin personally in yellow suit
[22:29:56] <kyonko> did you see how putin held office in the damn yellow suit?
[22:31:32] <kyonko> its suspected they used something like fentanyl at beslan
[22:31:58] <kyonko> beslan sucked ass, but mexican sucks ass daily even more
[22:32:10] <kyonko> thats where funky town video happened in a beach town
[22:32:26] <kyonko> wagner group and sputnik v is in mexico
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[22:40:14] <SoyCow4649> "Something significant happened shortly after landing burn start. Should know what it was once we can examine the bits later today." - Elon Musk about SN11
[22:42:21] <SoyCow4649> =asub https://www.spaceflightinsider.com
[22:42:23] <systemd> , 04submit failed: HTTP request returned status code 500 (Internal Server Error)
[22:42:34] <SoyCow4649> looks like the site's in the shitter again.
[22:42:39] <chromas> sn doesn't seem to be accepting subs no mo'
[22:42:43] <chromas> Bytram's on the case
[22:43:05] <chromas> but hasn't found the culprit so far
[22:43:16] <SoyCow4649> Seems like an awful lot of disfunctionality lately
[22:43:28] * chromas nods in cia op
[22:43:34] <SoyCow4649> Having to restart every few days...
[22:44:01] <chromas> maybe we need to port over to reddit's code ;)
[22:44:27] <SoyCow4649> ewwww
[22:44:56] <chromas> just add in some tweaks for min/max karma and stuff
[22:45:30] <SoyCow4649> Shouldn't take but a day or two right? ;)
[22:46:18] <chromas> could take awhile, but on the other hand, there's nobody at all working on rehash
[22:46:27] <kyonko> soylentnews.org wouldn't be in the shitter if the server wasn't some damn 32-bit PAE machine
[22:46:44] <kyonko> obviously running gentoo
[22:46:46] <kyonko> and btrfs
[22:47:02] <kyonko> in a closet, with a too long ethernet cord
[22:54:35] <SoyCow4649> =asub https://www.spaceflightinsider.com
[22:54:37] <systemd> , 04submit failed: HTTP request returned status code 500 (Internal Server Error)
[22:54:42] <SoyCow4649> silly me.
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[23:09:11] <Runaway1956> =submit https://futurism.com
[23:09:13] <systemd> Runaway1956, 04submit failed: HTTP request returned status code 500 (Internal Server Error)
[23:09:35] <Runaway1956> #submit https://futurism.com
[23:09:36] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[23:09:56] <Runaway1956> maybe systemd has a bellyache
[23:10:01] <MrPlow> Something borked during submitting, check the logs.
[23:10:12] <Runaway1956> maybe it isn't systemd?
[23:21:12] <Runaway1956> Everyone needs a hobby, right?
[23:21:18] <Runaway1956> https://www.thedrive.com
[23:21:18] <systemd> ^ 03This Intricate Wooden Car With Working V8 Engine and Gearbox Was Built by a Crazy-Smart Teen
[23:22:54] <Runaway1956> https://www.arabnews.com
[23:22:56] <systemd> ^ 03Egyptians fired up after Burger King exploits Suez Canal crisis
[23:36:33] <c0lo> Yeah, well, common-sense in balance with freeze peach - i.e. be sensational rather than sensible.
[23:36:43] <c0lo> 'Cause fuck you feelz.
[23:37:22] <c0lo> That's what free Social Media (paid by ads) brought to us.
[23:40:54] <c0lo> So, we are still with no submission possible ATM, right?
[23:41:46] <Bytram> basically, yes, except I still have access to work directly with the editor UI and can get a story in that way
[23:41:52] <Bytram> hmmm
[23:41:55] <Bytram> brb
[23:42:28] <c0lo> The UI submission page still generates a 500 on Preview.
[23:44:37] <Bytram> It's rather awkward, but submissions on dev work. I can *probably* copy from a story sub on dev to prod., let me check one more thing
[23:46:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mafia Fugitive Caught After Appearing in Italian Cooking YouTube Videos - https://sylnt.us
[23:47:05] <Bytram> yep, confirmed I can create a "New" story from the "Admin bar" and get a story into the story queue
[23:48:10] <Bytram> I feel like I have all the info I need to sleuth this out, but just can't seem to put all the parts together. :/
[23:48:46] <kyonko> soylentnews seems simple compared to a lot of web forums.... whats breaking every damn time going into the future?
[23:51:28] <Bytram> *seems* simple
[23:52:07] <kyonko> yes, seems simple
[23:52:17] <kyonko> now what if it didn't seem simple? exponentially worse?
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[23:52:33] <kyonko> the space shuttle was not simple
[23:52:56] <kyonko> eventually they had a lot of problems with the skilled labor regarding the ceramic tiles
[23:53:03] <kyonko> ceramic is heavy as fuck
[23:53:18] <kyonko> thats a problem that they just had to deal with
[23:54:06] <kyonko> shit like facebook and twitter or touchscreen app anything is not KISS
[23:54:37] <Bytram> there's a metric crap ton of stuff behind the scenes. I had a decades' long career testing and writing computer software. Like Operating Systems (yes, more than one), a compiler, a language workbench, CASE tools, data warehouse for one of the world's largest retirement fund companies, machine tool programming, and much more.
[23:54:49] <kyonko> nobody LIKES irc on hackernews, but they want end to end encryption
[23:55:17] <kyonko> heh, machine tool programming
[23:55:32] <Bytram> If it looks easy, it's beause we did our job well and were able to keep things at a consistent level of abstraction for the end user, and kept the details hidden.
[23:55:42] <kyonko> I see
[23:56:12] <Bytram> What you see as a user on SoylentNews is prolly < 10% of what is actually going on and available.
[23:56:21] <kyonko> of course
[23:56:35] <kyonko> facebook is just hot garbage compared to that
[23:57:27] <kyonko> facebook is so easy to use, why would you use anything else?
[23:57:30] <Bytram> On second thought, maybe only 5%. Yeah, it amazed me, too. I started with the "Green Site" before it even had userids!
[23:57:59] <kyonko> I was like 11 or 12 years old when I imagined something like the green site in 1996
[23:58:25] <Bytram> thought I knew it inside and out. What I saw when I started as an editor utterly floored me.
[23:58:40] <kyonko> you met ted tso
[23:58:46] <Bytram> And that was before I started getting into the site's code!
[23:58:55] <Bytram> not that I am aware
[23:59:28] <AzumaHazuki> kyonko, as elitist as this sounds, i think general purpose computing is overkill for most people. i wish it weren't so. but look what "the market" has said
[23:59:37] <AzumaHazuki> everyone wants their locked down fondleslabs
[23:59:43] <Bytram> would love to chat more but my arms are really sore today, and I sense I don' have much more typing left in me today. sorry!
[23:59:49] <kyonko> running a slashdot like site in the 1990's isn't that complicated, if you just set it to delete everything after a certain time and start with new posts and comments