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[00:35:15] <kyonko> Todays word of the day is: VYBORG
[00:35:30] <kyonko> get your pointe shoes ready
[00:35:31] <chromas> Awful quiet 'round here when there's nobody arguing
[00:35:35] <chromas> systemd
[00:35:39] <chromas> emacs
[00:35:41] <kyonko> inted
[00:35:42] <chromas> buttsecks
[00:35:48] <kyonko> use protection
[00:35:57] <kyonko> throw it away
[00:36:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FBI Warns Imminent Deepfake Attacks "Almost Certain" - https://sylnt.us - finally-implementing-Adam-Selene
[00:37:34] <chromas> Isn't that what this and the last presidency was?
[00:37:38] <kyonko> I have a fetish for ballet tutu buttsecks
[00:45:15] <c0lo> chromas, you're partially responsible for it, you let TMB kickban AzumaHazuki
[00:45:38] <c0lo> Who do you want to argue now?
[00:47:03] <chromas> hm...mice vs trackballs. which is better and why are you a nazicuck for choosing the wrong one?
[00:47:12] <kyonko> oh shes gone now?
[00:47:19] <kyonko> I use the console
[00:47:41] <kyonko> she really did go through some heavy shit growing up
[00:48:41] <c0lo> Trackpads or Keyboard shortcuts for the win. besides vi doesn't need display pointer devices.
[00:49:03] <chromas> does vi do irc though? or do you have to switch to emacs for that?
[00:51:18] <c0lo> :!{cmd} with redirection straight on IRC ports
[00:53:15] <c0lo> kyonko, hard as it may be, she needs to let the heavy shit behind. Otherwise, she's prone to run in other shits because of her "luggage"
[00:55:30] <Runaway1956> https://nationalfile.com
[00:55:30] <systemd> ^ 03VIDEO: Skateboarding Trump Supporter Dodges Antifa Charge As Leftists Attack Oregon State Capitol
[00:55:50] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[00:55:51] <systemd> ^ 03Ubuntu has Wobbly Windows!
[00:57:21] <Runaway1956> Weren't there wobbly windows in about 2005?
[00:57:29] <Runaway1956> I know I saw them years ago
[00:58:00] <chromas> Not sure; that video's from 2007 though
[01:02:19] <kyonko> is barbare hudson terminal?
[01:02:32] <kyonko> I need to wear terrible eyeglasses btw
[01:03:03] <kyonko> I have beetus, and its been years since my last eye exam for eye blood pressure
[01:03:18] <kyonko> I think the last log was before I found the magic bullet rx cocktail
[01:03:39] <kyonko> so its logged as, extremely high blood pressure
[01:04:04] <kyonko> GOOD NEWS: my liver deals with fats and oils in a healthy way
[01:04:10] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[01:04:11] <systemd> ^ 03New Windows Easter Egg Discovered - And I'm in it!
[01:05:46] <kyonko> I think azuma needs to talk in a psychotherapy sort of way about her bisexual history
[01:06:52] <chromas> better yet, she could ta;l about her experiences with wayland
[01:07:15] <kyonko> I think gecko linux has approached chromeos levels
[01:07:24] <Bytram> .
[01:07:24] <Bytram> https://www.vesselfinder.com
[01:07:26] <kyonko> linux mint ulyana is still pixelated
[01:07:26] <systemd> ^ 03EVER GIVEN Current position (Container Ship, IMO 9811000) - VesselFinder
[01:07:28] <Bytram> .
[01:07:39] <kyonko> the ship needs to go beep beep beep
[01:07:52] <Bytram> I see ~20 ships working around Ever Given
[01:07:53] <kyonko> egypt is talking about removing the containers and examining them
[01:08:11] <kyonko> they will find its filled with sand
[01:08:16] <kyonko> I BET MY VIRGIN ASS
[01:08:27] <Bytram> you have a link for that?
[01:08:35] <kyonko> sand filled shipping containers was first seen in libya in 2011 in the rebels
[01:08:47] <kyonko> its a sign of dr. evil
[01:09:05] <c0lo> kyonko, the max state of involution for linux mint will be to devolve to chromas' level. Which is still a long way to go.
[01:09:35] <kyonko> well, I haven't tried to use warpinator yet
[01:11:05] <kyonko> johnny mnemonic carries my ssh keys
[01:12:40] <kyonko> would it take big balls to use dragonfly bsd for a NAS, or some btrfs distro?
[01:13:04] <Runaway1956> =submit https://nypost.com
[01:13:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Amish Community May Have Reached COVID ‘Herd Immunity,’ Health Official Says" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:13:38] <Runaway1956> Kyonko, how many asses you have, and why are you keeping one virgin?
[01:13:41] <kyonko> Oh so they are immune?
[01:13:42] <tedious> That's awesome.
[01:14:01] <kyonko> You know the amish let cancer proceed to the state lazarus of the bible was in
[01:14:09] <tedious> I am moving to amish country and learning to be a farmer.
[01:14:24] <Runaway1956> You don't learn farming, you grow up with it
[01:14:27] <kyonko> they really are going to need ammonia and phosphate
[01:14:33] <kyonko> NPK
[01:14:34] <tedious> :(
[01:14:36] <Runaway1956> I want to hear more about kyonko's asses
[01:14:44] <kyonko> nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium
[01:15:05] <kyonko> hell, where do you even find potassium in the right percentage in soil?
[01:15:15] <kyonko> azote will come from the air
[01:15:41] <kyonko> its better to learn modern agricultural science and work your way down
[01:16:20] <kyonko> good old manure
[01:16:29] <kyonko> the french way that worked for millenia
[01:21:07] <kyonko> beware of carnivore poop tho
[01:21:12] <kyonko> its literally covid
[01:21:37] <kyonko> carnivore poop is no good and a biohazard
[01:21:51] <kyonko> put your pets poop in the red bin
[01:27:24] <c0lo> Carnivore poop is as good as any as a fertiliser. You won't have enough of it, tho'.
[01:29:17] <kyonko> carnivore poop is a fertilizer, if you are brewing some saddam hussein botulism
[01:30:38] <kyonko> tetanus isn't a myth, its a reality
[01:30:45] <Runaway1956> Ever Given has at least one damaged ballast water tank - divers have been working to weld the hole
[01:30:52] <c0lo> As for "biohazard"... meh, any poop in large amounts is a biohazard
[01:30:58] <Runaway1956> =submit https://thefederalistpapers.org
[01:31:01] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Global Shipping Crisis in Egypt: Diggers and Dredgers Struggle to Free Ship Blocking Suez Canal" (76p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:31:09] <kyonko> c0lo amazon workers forced to pee in bottles
[01:31:20] <kyonko> that is some wmd shit right there
[01:31:28] <kyonko> you need a moon suit to even crack one open
[01:31:54] <c0lo> Take batpoop for example
[01:34:34] <Runaway1956> Video at the above link shows some actual progress
[01:34:47] <Runaway1956> there are now TWO trackhoes working on it
[01:35:13] <Runaway1956> one on a barge, the other on shore, both look bigger than that first trackhoe
[01:35:24] <kyonko> dr. evil did it
[01:35:32] <kyonko> we need a genius
[01:35:37] <kyonko> a genius like howard hughes
[01:35:40] <kyonko> and his glomar explorer
[01:35:53] <Runaway1956> I take that back, there are THREE trackhoes
[01:35:57] <kyonko> although hughes did go joe biden mad because he met the men who sold the world
[01:35:57] * bacteria attacks another shit-ton of pop-corn
[01:36:27] <kyonko> we need starlink and tesla on the ground now
[01:36:28] <c0lo> Ever heard of E.coli and bull shit? Or cysticercosis and pig shit? Or brucellosis and baa poo?
[01:36:39] <kyonko> yea c0lo
[01:36:46] <bacteria> don't 4get heppatitus
[01:36:48] <kyonko> you assume its everywhere
[01:37:02] <kyonko> unless they are spores, they oxidize in air and inactivate
[01:37:18] <kyonko> spores are a wmd
[01:37:23] <kyonko> kinda hard to control though
[01:37:32] <c0lo> ringworm, Q fever, chlamydiosis, leptospirosis, campylobacterosis, salmonellosis, listeriosis, cryptosporidiosis, giardiasis
[01:37:42] <Runaway1956> anthrax are spores
[01:37:50] <kyonko> yeah mold is spores
[01:38:04] <c0lo> I can continue, but you may have some favorites already
[01:38:12] <kyonko> it was claimed saddam hussein had trailers that produced aflatoxin mold
[01:38:32] <kyonko> thats what atomic cannon commander collin powell said anyway
[01:38:34] <bacteria> vip==virus infected poop
[01:38:59] <kyonko> he brought a vial of chalk dust and some aluminum pipe to the UN meeting
[01:39:22] <kyonko> a lot like bibi's chart on a tripod with the bomb being filled up like a thermometer
[01:39:42] <kyonko> now this shit is back with myanmar
[01:40:01] <bacteria> myanmar, is that like a wow continent?
[01:40:07] <kyonko> yes it is
[01:40:11] <kyonko> its populated by hobbits
[01:40:26] <kyonko> its got a city called mandalay
[01:40:32] <kyonko> mandalay, myanmar
[01:40:38] * bacteria adds 2 and 2
[01:45:04] <kyonko> who did it better?
[01:45:08] <kyonko> bag lamb or bag boy?
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[01:49:34] <kyonko> so thats not a real dns?
[01:49:51] <kyonko> its faux dns
[01:54:19] <kyonko> why is everyone using the egirl onlyfans donut light?
[01:54:48] <chromas> ring light?
[01:56:34] <kyonko> yes a ring light, used by cosmetologists and soldering
[01:56:43] <chromas> or do you mean a hemorrhoid doughnut with rgb?
[01:56:49] <kyonko> usually has a magnifying glass in the middle
[01:57:09] <kyonko> the streamers have been using this kind of light for years
[01:57:28] <kyonko> its the only light I TRUST
[01:57:41] <kyonko> it projects itself as an illuminating circle
[01:58:07] <kyonko> a triangle or square would also work
[01:58:13] <Bytram> Runaway1956: that page has at least 42 different domains linked to! ( https://thefederalistpapers.org )
[01:58:13] <systemd> ^ 03Global Shipping Crisis in Egypt: Diggers and Dredgers Struggle to Free Ship Blocking Suez Canal
[01:58:14] <kyonko> BUT THIS IS A CIRCLE
[01:58:35] <chromas> circles match your eyes
[01:58:43] <chromas> unless you have triangular or square eyes
[01:58:55] <kyonko> a pinhole camera won't work in space
[01:59:05] <kyonko> because a pinhole camera is actually an air lens
[01:59:13] <Bytram> circles are only under my eyes from lack of sleep
[01:59:25] <kyonko> air is real
[01:59:29] <chromas> Get some sleep to convert them to triangles
[02:00:15] <kyonko> how do you prove that a porn scene resulted in pregnancy?
[02:00:46] <kyonko> ok so pretty much, the damn ethot circle light
[02:00:54] <kyonko> it emanates a projection of itself in a circle
[02:08:26] <Runaway1956> I suppose one of those 42 domains serves the video - I don't know Bytram
[02:12:51] <kyonko> http://www.infowarsdomains.com
[02:12:54] <systemd> ^ 03EPIK - Cheap Domain Names, Hosting, Domaining & more!; ( https://www.epik.com )
[02:12:56] <c0lo> And all those 42 domains track your access, Runaway1956. I s'ppose for redundancy, better to have your data in 42 places than in no place at all.
[02:13:14] <kyonko> c0lo dedupe is for goys
[02:14:51] <Runaway1956> How they track me? I reject 3rd party cookies, I don't allow fingerprinting, regularly clear caches and cookies
[02:15:04] <Runaway1956> that's in my least locked-down browser
[02:16:58] <Runaway1956> bytram - it seems funny to me how few "news sources" are carrying those articles I dig up
[02:17:20] <Runaway1956> For all your tracking concerns, the federalist has a story that no one seems to carry
[02:17:21] <c0lo> =g tracking DNS fingerprinting
[02:17:22] <systemd> https://www.nature.com - Ethiopia's transforming wheat landscape: tracking variety use ...
[02:18:08] <c0lo> LOL Well not quite wheat landscape tracking
[02:19:16] <Runaway1956> OK - twitter link to the video https://twitter.com
[02:19:17] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[02:20:09] <c0lo> Yeah, Runaway1956, believe thefederalist, their main focus is *your* interest. This is how they make their money too.
[02:20:48] * Runaway1956 yawns
[02:20:48] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into Runaway1956's gaping mouth
[02:21:10] <Runaway1956> and none of the more liberal "news sources" focus on money?
[02:21:54] <c0lo> How does whataboutism work for you, Runaway1956?
[02:22:23] <halibut> I do not know how effective these tracking mechanisms are, nor how widespread they are, but they are supposedly resistent to clearing caches and cookies. I do not know how well current ``disabling fingerprinting'' works against them, but I think they are all interesting from a technical standpoint (several have had stories about them on Soylent):
[02:22:30] <halibut> Evercookie: https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:22:32] <systemd> ^ 03Evercookie - Wikipedia
[02:22:50] <halibut> Using favicons: https://arstechnica.com
[02:22:51] <kyonko> halibut , they somehow get your MAC address
[02:22:51] <systemd> ^ 03New browser-tracking hack works even when you flush caches or go incognito
[02:23:05] <kyonko> leaking MAC addresses
[02:23:12] <halibut> Using pure CSS: https://github.com
[02:23:13] <systemd> ^ 03jbtronics/CrookedStyleSheets
[02:23:19] <kyonko> a few linux distros claim to protect against this
[02:23:34] <kyonko> robolinux even asks you for money for this
[02:23:48] <Runaway1956> c0lo - you are getting into the deep end of they hypocrisy pool
[02:24:18] <kyonko> halibut , and then when you can't figure it out, it turns out to be electrons in synchrony across space and time
[02:24:32] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[02:24:34] <systemd> ^ 03Why Your Pee Looks Like A Chain
[02:24:37] <kyonko> the orbits match between wide spaces and gone eras
[02:24:45] <c0lo> I'm not getting anywhere. I'm pointing that there are 42 domains that may track you from thefederalist webpage you linked.
[02:25:06] <kyonko> when quantum entanglement occurs, there is no physical wave involved
[02:25:11] <kyonko> spooky action
[02:25:22] <kyonko> thats how they track you
[02:25:40] <c0lo> Whether you believe or not they are a sane watering hole for you,up to you to decude.
[02:26:16] <Runaway1956> The original evercookies used Adobe Flash to hide content from you
[02:26:46] <Runaway1956> the term has had one makeover, and it's getting another now that DNS tracking is becoming a thing
[02:26:59] <halibut> kyonko: I have not heard of web sites (other than local router UI websites) being able to retrieve MAC addresses. Could you link me to some information on that?
[02:27:29] <kyonko> well, read on robolinux, which claims to protect you from this
[02:27:39] <kyonko> they charge money for their.... special protection
[02:28:09] <halibut> Runaway1956: I think Evercookie has been a somewhat evolving thing, just like any piece of software. The Wikipedia page I linked has quite a list of things that can be used, and Flash is just one of them.
[02:29:26] <bacteria> :D
[02:29:29] <bacteria> mt
[02:29:40] <bacteria> well.... actually, wth, :D
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[02:32:04] <halibut> kyonko: A quick perusal suggests Robo UNTRACKER is intended to protect against a local router tracking you. Similar, I guess, to how some stores apparently have used WiFi connections to track phones in their stores (and Bluetooth, I guess). Interesting, but I do not think usable by a website not hosted on the router itself.
[02:35:50] <halibut> Amusing note: Tried to figure out what ``mt'' could stand for. Turns out it is more versatile than the three definitions I knew: http://acronymsandslang.com
[02:35:51] <systemd> ^ 03What does MT Stand For? 1158 meanings of MT by Acronymsandslang.com
[02:36:49] <halibut> That title is misleading. There are only 31 meanings in the ``chat'' heading.
[02:37:25] <halibut> Heh. ``Only'' 31.
[02:43:42] <halibut> Trivia question: Globes are frequently about 1/3 meter (~1 foot) in diameter. At this scale, the moon is about the size of a large fist, or an orange. To the same scale, how far away is the moon (orange) from the earth (globe)?
[02:44:32] <halibut> I tend to think it's within a large human's reach, say about 2 meters (or about 6 feet), even though I know the correct answer, which is quite a bit different.
[02:45:48] <halibut> I'll be away for a bit, but will be checking backlogs to see if anybody comments on that.
[02:54:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.rt.com
[02:54:59] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[02:55:24] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[03:01:14] <c0lo> TMB injecting some noise. Becaue why not?
[03:02:10] <c0lo> Dr Seuss 3 days of outrage is a pale memory, we need some fresh noise.
[03:02:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, you read it? unlike most of the political crap you submit, it we have an actual topic for digital liberty. it's called Digital Liberty.
[03:04:35] <c0lo> Ys, yes, things like the hair and skin color make us what we are is digital liberty.
[03:04:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> getting banned on instagram for quoting sesame street is kinda bloody relevant
[03:06:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> then again, most folks in their thirties are more fragile than three year olds nowadays, so you may have a point.
[03:07:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Landmark Brain Cancer Vaccine Passes First Phase of Human Trials - https://sylnt.us
[03:08:00] <c0lo> And "Pfizer is Now Testing a COVID-19 Pill" or " Renewables Met 97% of Scotland's Electricity Demand in 2020" is political crap, yes.
[03:08:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> then i obviously wasn't referring to those stories, now was i?
[03:09:09] <c0lo> The importance of spewing old non-sense on Instagram is waaayy more important, because Social /media is such a positive to humanity's fate.
[03:09:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> the fact that instagram thinks something written and aired without complaint to three year olds is too inflaming for grown-ass adults damned well is.
[03:10:42] <c0lo> " too inflaming for grown-ass adults" LOL. Adults indeed.
[03:10:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> well what passes for em nowadays
[03:12:03] <c0lo> Like the TMB adult who plays in their hand? Maybe he likes inflammation, too.
[03:12:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> translate that to english if ya would
[03:13:30] <c0lo> "well what passes for em nowadays" Are you an adult or are you "what passes for an adult nowadays"?
[03:15:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i was an adult before we stopped teaching our kids to act like them and started "letting them just be kids". the fucked up ones are oh, late thirties down to mid-20s. anyone younger or older than that has a good chance of not screaming every time their feelings get hurt.
[03:16:33] <c0lo> Ok, so you let yourself be one of the "what passes for an adult nowadays", growing too old and tired to be a actual adult, eh?
[03:16:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> even kids in middle school are mocking the woke nowadays. i heard a 13 year old girl tell her friend "did you just assume my gender was fat?!" while they were randomly bullshitting
[03:18:03] <c0lo> Right, TMB actually likes to be inflammed and possibly to inflamme others.
[03:18:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, i get up and work doing things i don't particularly enjoy for people i don't particularly like. and i can do it productively with people i can't bloody stand without interfering with the job.
[03:18:20] <c0lo> Noise will do for the purpose.
[03:18:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, there's a difference between righteous indignation and butthurt over your feelz being offended. look into it.
[03:19:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> it ain't noise. it's signal. that you think freedom of speech talk is noise says very, very bad things about you.
[03:20:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, wait, do you lot still have a queen on your money? that would explain a lot.
[03:20:01] <c0lo> Sure, he's not part of the inflammation proble, he's the solution. Just push back more inflammation, because doing the same think and expecting different results is... well... adulty nowadays.
[03:20:23] <c0lo> TMB, relevance?
[03:20:33] <c0lo> In a few words, please.
[03:20:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're subjects not citizens. you have no real freedom now and never have.
[03:21:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> being oppressed is a comfy old sweater to you. you wouldn't know what to do if you had to think for yourselves.
[03:21:28] <c0lo> I remember queen lizzie exactly 1 day a year, only because it's a public holoday.
[03:21:58] <c0lo> Woohoo, I'm paid for the day and I can sleep.
[03:22:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, i like liz quite a bit. but i'd put a bullet in her head before i'd bow to her or put her on my moneys.
[03:22:08] <c0lo> So, relevance == 0.
[03:22:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, no relevance in free speech on an internet platform to a tech site. my bad.
[03:22:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> fucking retard
[03:23:10] <c0lo> Adulty, yes, TMB. You're so aulty now, I can't find superlatives for it.
[03:23:11] <chromas> The real problem with today's society is using '=' for assignment so that you need another symbol for quality
[03:23:43] * chromas sneaks in an 'e'
[03:23:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, thumb's-up and calvin pissing on $whatever
[03:23:46] <c0lo> Mutual feelings, TMB. Except that I don't share them in public.
[03:24:14] <chromas> except for that time you did just now
[03:25:08] <chromas> oh yeah I remember pissing Calvin in chat rooms in the 90s; placing it next to Hanson jpegs and stuff
[03:26:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ford n chevy guys love them on the back glass as well
[03:26:41] <chromas> people linking to their c:\ because it worked in their browser, so why wouldn't it on the internet?
[03:27:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should make a folder named C:\ in $HOME/
[03:28:04] <chromas> Need to figure out a way to get real drive letters in linux
[03:28:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, it's confusing putting everything in one big pile
[03:28:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> the letters bring the ABCs song to mind and comfort me with nostalgia
[03:29:33] <chromas> ABCDEFG, how I wonder what you are
[03:30:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, that's the new version they made up since pronouns became optional and even imaginary
[03:32:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> or possibly one of the less popular songs by the kinks
[03:32:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt lola kinks
[03:32:24] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- The Kinks - Lola (Official Audio)
[03:32:55] <chromas> oh, ABCDEF10
[03:33:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas better
[03:34:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ever wonder if we should pronounce 1A as "a-teen" and such?
[03:34:58] <chromas> Seems legit
[03:35:11] <c0lo> Now do 11
[03:35:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> eleventeen
[03:35:21] <chromas> Although in the days of 10,000,000,000 emojis, we've got codepoints to spare for additional symbols now
[03:35:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> didn't you read the hobbit?
[03:38:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> we really don't need that many. you can convey the important things pretty efficiently with either poop, middle finger, eggplant, or laughy face
[03:38:41] <c0lo> TIL eleventeen == 21 https://en.wiktionary.org
[03:38:43] <systemd> ^ 03eleventeen - Wiktionary
[03:39:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, 3 then
[03:40:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[03:40:13] <systemd> ^ 03How Binary Works
[03:44:14] <c0lo> lolnot
[03:51:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, ima go sleep
[05:20:23] <c0lo> breaking news https://www.theguardian.com
[05:20:24] <systemd> ^ 03Suez canal: Ever Given ship refloated after almost a week blocking major waterway
[05:20:34] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[05:20:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Suez Canal: Ever Given Ship Refloated After Almost a Week Blocking Major Waterway" (25p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:39:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Don't Miss the Next Full Moon: The Worm Moon (and, by Some Definitions, a Supermoon) - https://sylnt.us - Lunacy
[05:50:18] <Runaway1956> That's good news c0lo - I've been watching, but missed the new developments
[05:53:51] <c0lo> So far, I wasn't affected by the Suez blockage, so neither good nor bad news for me. I'm waiting for some engineering details (e,g, what they did), but I don't expect big surprises there.
[05:56:09] <c0lo> "The news came after Egyptian authorities said on Sunday that high tides and the arrival of extra tug boats could finally free the stricken ship..."
[05:56:52] <c0lo> "According to Reuters, two sources at the SCA earlier said that a mass of rock had been found at the bow of the ship."
[05:57:13] <c0lo> "Diggers had been working to remove parts of the canal’s bank and expand dredging close to the ship’s bow to a depth of 18 metres (59ft)"
[05:57:32] <c0lo> That's about it so far.
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[06:16:16] <Runaway1956> https://splash247.com
[06:16:18] <systemd> ^ 03Huge Suez operation frees the Ever Given - Splash247
[06:16:41] <Runaway1956> They intend to tow the ship to Bitter Lake, then decide what to do with her
[06:17:09] <Runaway1956> I would have expected them to tow it out of the canal, and park it at the south end, out of everyone's way
[06:30:35] <chromas> The package postfix-pgsql was mysteriously uninstalled the other day. Can I blame the Ever Given being stuck for all my missing junk mail?
[06:31:39] <Runaway1956> Ever Given may be responsible for slow packets, but not for missing packets
[06:31:47] <Runaway1956> https://splash247.com
[06:31:49] <systemd> ^ 03MSC ship suffers severe gash while berthing in Turkey - Splash247
[06:32:55] <chromas> I don't see any removal in the pacman log. Maybe it wasn't its own package before
[06:33:18] <chromas> Running my mail server on arch was a Jenius move
[06:33:54] <Runaway1956> Running your Jenius on a mail server would be impressive
[06:35:59] <inz> I just broke my mail server with an upgrade from debian oldstable
[06:36:18] <inz> Apparently new dovecot wanted a dhparams to be used.
[06:40:19] <chromas> That generates new params?
[06:40:38] <c0lo> =submit https://edition.cnn.com
[06:40:45] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Blood Type Could be Linked to Covid-19 Risk and Severity, New Research Suggests" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:41:45] <c0lo> A and AB may have slightly higher chances to end in ICU, 0 slightly lower.
[06:42:19] <c0lo> Comorbs still dominant.
[06:42:34] <chromas> O- ends in blood & fire, of course
[06:43:28] <c0lo> s/omorbs/omorbs and age/
[06:43:28] <SedBot> <c0lo> Comorbs and age still dominant.
[06:49:57] <c0lo> Oldie but interesting https://apnews.com
[06:49:59] <systemd> ^ 03Mother Russia: South Florida sees a boom in 'birth tourism'
[06:50:28] <c0lo> s/Oldie/1-week oldie/
[06:50:28] <SedBot> <c0lo> 1-week oldie but interesting https://apnews.com
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[08:10:44] <c0lo> =submit https://www.reuters.com
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[08:12:01] <c0lo> =submit 4-photos https://www.greenmatters.com
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[08:13:12] <c0lo> =submit thats-clever https://www.smithsonianmag.com
[08:13:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03This High Schooler Invented Color-Changing Sutures to Detect Infection" (30p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:16:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - APT Encounters of the Third Kind - https://sylnt.us - duh-dah-dum-doo-dee
[08:19:44] <c0lo> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
[08:19:46] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Philippines Deploys Air Force as Tensions Over Chinese Ships Rise" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:20:45] <boru> i.e. USA deploys Air Force as tensions with China increase.
[08:24:21] <c0lo> We'll see, it's early. Perhaps MIC thinks that they can sell F35 to Philippines first.
[08:26:06] <c0lo> In any case, there are 3 countries not very pleased to have China in the neighbourhood, India, Vietnam and the Philippines.
[08:27:46] <boru> Well, the latter two are US vasal states.
[08:28:14] <boru> India on the otherhand, well, I am surprised since they're both a part of the BRIC pact, and a significant mountain range separates them.
[08:28:20] <c0lo> China will need to be careful not to annoy Malaysia or Indonesia, they might recall they have quite a large muslim population which may note something about Uighurs.
[08:29:51] <c0lo> Yeah, BRICS is dead since president Xi thought BRICS is too small and he wants the whole world belted and roaded.
[08:30:03] <boru> I doubt they've forgotten about the US's scorched Earth policy on their islands during the Pacific War, however.
[08:30:46] <boru> I'm not sure about that. China also has a foothold in continental Africa and Europe, as well.
[08:31:09] <boru> And the obvious foreign interference in Taiwan is also poking the bear.
[08:31:27] <boru> It'll be an interesting year.
[08:31:50] <boru> "Point all of your guns at China, but also beg them to continue to print silicon for you"
[08:31:55] <c0lo> Africa is not yet China's - they have troubles keeping stable as they are.
[08:32:16] <boru> That's Africa in the nutshell. It doesn't matter who's invading.
[08:32:36] <c0lo> Germany has too close relation with China (since the '90-ies), but they had close dependency on Russia too.
[08:33:07] <boru> Germany will side with Russia for natural gas, which the USA are all too eager to disparage.
[08:33:21] <boru> The Balkans will also side with China, I think.
[08:33:26] <c0lo> France would show China the finger tomorrow if they'd be less "classy".
[08:33:43] <boru> They're building a bridge to rejoin Croatia again, and Serbia are definitely good buddies with them.
[08:33:59] <c0lo> Nope, the Balkans are still in Europe's pocket.
[08:34:02] <boru> I'm not sure about that.
[08:34:05] <boru> No they are not. Wtf.
[08:35:23] <c0lo> Unless I don't know bout and I'm thus mistaken China doesn't have enough investment in Balkans to get enough of their attention.
[08:35:40] <FatPhil> https://www.dw.com
[08:35:42] <systemd> ^ 03EU set to invest €9 billion in Balkans
[08:36:04] <boru> They've been threatening that for years.
[08:36:07] <boru> Investing.
[08:36:18] <boru> They sent little to no aid to Croatia after the series of earthquakes they had.
[08:36:31] <boru> Lidl, the supermarket chain, sent more money than the EU. So much for membership.
[08:36:43] <c0lo> The majority of money in the Balkans still come from EU today.
[08:36:52] <boru> Serbia will follow Hungary, and they already want out.
[08:37:03] <c0lo> boru,balkans is not croatia only.
[08:37:07] <boru> No shit.
[08:37:31] <boru> Point being, the Balkans hate each other until something like that happens, then they all band together.
[08:38:03] <boru> You mark my words.
[08:38:53] <boru> As for Africa, if China decides, France will lose their assets there as well.
[08:39:10] <c0lo> I lived *around* there for some time. Yugoslavia civil war? None of the neighboring countries gave a shit about.
[08:39:17] <boru> Mali and its surrounding countries won't defend French assets after their incessant bombing campaigns.
[08:39:34] <c0lo> The Balkan politics is opportunism mainly.
[08:39:46] <boru> We'll see.
[08:40:31] <c0lo> France know well how to play the subsahara. China would have a long splitting head headache there.
[08:41:14] <boru> My assessment: China, Russia, Iran and India against the USA and israel with 50/50 support in Europe.
[08:41:20] <boru> And it'll happen before 2030.
[08:41:37] <c0lo> The best that China can hope in Mali will be to create headaches for France.
[08:42:05] <boru> That's all they'd need. Get them to fight on more than one front.
[08:42:25] <boru> China has a lot more resources than France.
[08:42:45] <boru> Whether it's people or metal.
[08:43:21] <c0lo> West Europe will fall in line. East Europe will play opportunistic following their centuries-long Levantine cultures
[08:43:52] <boru> We'll see. I doubt the UK will be the last country to leave the EU in this decade.
[08:44:30] <c0lo> We'll see indeed.
[08:44:37] <boru> The USA needs somewhere to land their planes if they want to move against China from the west.
[08:45:03] <boru> Ireland is neutral and not a member of NATO. Relations with the UK are cordial.
[08:45:34] <c0lo> China needs the minerals in Africa - cobalt mainly. That's the next oil, until the battery chemistry won't depend on it.
[08:46:13] <boru> And so the world needs the minerals in Africa.
[08:46:26] <boru> Since everyone else buys those things from China.
[08:46:41] <boru> A resource war on the African continent is possible, of course.
[08:47:39] <c0lo> Unlike 50 years back, materials science learnt a lot more to get around rare earth.
[08:47:40] <boru> Anywhere there's a valuable resource, well, the usual suspects come running.
[08:48:16] <c0lo> I.e. it's no longer you get them or you're phuked.
[08:48:17] <boru> Of course. Technological advancement will usually obviate the reliance on various resources.
[08:48:21] <boru> But not before 2030.
[08:48:36] <c0lo> I wouldn't bet.
[08:48:43] <boru> So, like it or not, this will be China's decade.
[08:49:00] <c0lo> In any case, US will rely a lot on the minerals in Australia.
[08:49:18] <boru> It won't stop the empire collapsing.
[08:49:27] <boru> Australia also has a logistics problem.
[08:49:31] <c0lo> Oh, don't get me wrong, yes, it will be China's more that a single decade.
[08:49:51] <boru> Australia is sitting in a good position, in many respects.
[08:50:10] <c0lo> It's not gonna be easy for China to win the contest, tho'.
[08:50:13] <boru> But a lot of secondary industry has moved to Asia, iirc.
[08:50:31] <boru> I disagree. I think they'll conquer without really trying.
[08:50:41] <boru> They've cornered the world economy in many ways.
[08:51:16] <FatPhil> but still they have a terrible fragility in their own
[08:51:16] <boru> Investing in sending students abroad to study, massive bulding contracts in the west, and so on.
[08:51:24] <c0lo> They won't because Xi is a pighead. The prev guard that he swept away, yes, it would have conquered without trying.
[08:51:36] <boru> He won't live forever.
[08:51:52] <boru> But he's the draconian sort that will catapult them into power this decade, and probably the next.
[08:52:04] <c0lo> No, but long enough to piss enough others and force them to take sides.
[08:52:33] <boru> I'm not sure about that, especially if they're already at war.
[08:52:35] <c0lo> s/No/No, he won't live forever/
[08:52:35] <SedBot> <c0lo> No, he won't live forever, but long enough to piss enough others and force them to take sides.
[08:53:13] <boru> Feh, as much as I am enjoying this discussion, I have to deal with work shite. Inconsiderate swine.
[08:53:21] <boru> I'll be back in a bit.
[08:53:59] <c0lo> I'm not saying that China won't get in front. What I'm saying is this won't happen *uncontested*
[08:55:28] <kyonko> they pwnt computing and electronics
[08:55:32] <kyonko> thats all you need
[08:55:39] <kyonko> its like south american cocaine
[08:55:42] <kyonko> and mexican meth
[08:55:52] <kyonko> afghan heroin
[08:58:07] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard++ Eratosthenes bullcrap
[08:58:07] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 426
[09:10:27] <kyonko> will azuma ever be allowed back?
[09:10:42] <kyonko> she was just born in the wrong country
[09:33:51] <kyonko> BAB-EL-MANDEB \o/
[09:46:59] <inz> ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD @_@
[10:48:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Buffer Overruns, License Violations, and Bad Code: FreeBSD 13’s Close Call - https://sylnt.us - Who-you-(don't)-know
[10:54:09] <c0lo> Should I submit it? https://www.relationshipsnews.com
[10:54:12] <systemd> ^ 03Multiple Women Accuse Bernie Sanders of Trying to Give Them Free Healthcare.
[10:55:11] <Ingar> what buzzard banned Azuma, what am I going to do with my large pot of popcorn nwo
[10:59:03] <FatPhil> c0lo: at his age, I'd be surprised if he could raise any taxes
[11:02:24] <c0lo> FatPhil, sildenafil may have headaches as a side effect, but should work alright for some fucking taxes.
[11:13:33] <c0lo> =submit ccuk https://www.thenational.scot
[11:13:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03China Controlling Students in Scottish Universities, Whistleblower Claims" (50p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:15:51] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[11:15:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Lawyer Who Took on Chevron – and Now Marks His 600th Day Under House Arrest" (28p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:17:07] <c0lo> =submit https://scitechdaily.com
[11:17:13] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Protein Discovery in the Development of New Hearing Hair Cells Could Lead to Treatments for Hearing " (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:22:12] <c0lo> Where the world could be:
[11:22:21] <c0lo> =submit https://www.neimagazine.com
[11:22:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03China Launches Tritium Breeding Blanket Project for Iter - Nuclear Engineering International" (7p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:22:42] <c0lo> =submit https://www.neimagazine.com
[11:22:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Russia Completes Key Equipment for Iter - Nuclear Engineering International" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:23:43] <c0lo> =submit https://thenextweb.com
[11:23:45] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Next Web" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:25:41] <c0lo> =submit https://www.sciencetimes.com
[11:25:43] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Nuclear Fusion: World’s First Ever Reactor to be Tested This Summer" (24p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[11:50:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ingar, she has about 4h left on her ban
[11:50:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:50:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5522
[11:50:56] <Ingar> is there a #soylent-banned? :)
[11:51:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> is if you /join #soylent-banned
[11:51:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'll even be in charge
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[11:54:30] <Ingar> I called it #purgatory
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[11:57:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://linuxreviews.org
[11:57:29] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[11:57:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg
[11:57:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> =submit https://linuxreviews.org
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[12:11:12] <c0lo> "In the event of a natural disaster in South Carolina, don’t necessarily expect to see Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) helping dig survivors out of rubble. The senator indicated Sunday that he’d instead be at home with his AR-15, ready to pick off marauding gangs presumably at least partly made up of his own constituents."
[12:11:16] <c0lo> https://www.huffpost.com
[12:11:17] <systemd> ^ 03Lindsey Graham Says He Could Shoot Gangs With His AR-15, Twitter Critics Go Ballistic
[12:16:43] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[12:17:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> SC doesn't get much in the way of natural disasters except hurricanes and there ain't really much rubble digging going on with those
[12:18:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> wasn't much in the way of looting after Hugo either though, so shurg
[12:19:34] <c0lo> Fox2 anchor ays you better start wearing that spiderman mask, TMB, otherwise you're not fun https://www.mlive.com
[12:19:35] <systemd> ^ 03FOX 2 Detroit anchor Maurielle Lue describes her ‘terrifying’ COVID battle: ‘I literally can’t breathe’
[12:20:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.rt.com
[12:20:20] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[12:20:46] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[12:20:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, does that follow the add "in bed" rule?
[12:21:43] <c0lo> Why dontcha ask 'er?
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[12:23:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'm prejudiced. i hate journalists.
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[12:41:22] <FatPhil> There is a mandatory delay in bed, please be patient.
[12:48:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'what you get for having scripted sex. need to use the GNU copulation compiler to optimize that shit.
[12:52:45] <c0lo> You call that "optimization"? By the time it finishes the compilation stage you're long past the reproductive age.
[12:52:58] <c0lo> llvm FTW (grin)
[12:55:35] <boru> And if you're writing C++, you needn't worry about reproduction, anyway.
[13:00:51] <c0lo> Better get lotsa sleep,guys, while you can https://www.reuters.com
[13:00:52] <systemd> ^ 03'A loud month, for sure': U.S. awaits huge, 17-year cicada hatch
[13:01:25] <inz> boru, the multiple inheritance mechanics in reproduction do get quite complex indeed
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[13:02:18] <inz> Especially when number of parents grows beyond 2
[13:02:24] <progo> "US"?
[13:02:27] <progo> USA is big
[13:02:32] <progo> I don't think the cicada population is that big
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[13:02:39] <boru> Not to mention the diamond dilemma.
[13:03:32] <boru> But whilst its simple to bash C++, I think the real contraceptive language is python.
[13:03:55] <progo> Visual Basic 6 ought to be enough for anyone
[13:06:42] <c0lo> In never understood why mixins/traits came so late in prog languages
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[13:16:16] <FatPhil> didn't smalltalk effectively have them?
[13:16:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bad at Public Speaking? the Trick is to Distill Your Message to These 15 Words, Says Speech Trainer - https://sylnt.us
[13:16:49] <FatPhil> and yes, I'm skipping contraception there, and going straight for castration.
[13:19:00] <c0lo> Smalltalk before sex doesn't help contraception, FatPhil
[13:19:38] <boru> Unless you're a python programmer.
[13:20:06] <c0lo> Other than that, I wouldn't know, smalltalk was almost extinct when I got past FORTRAN
[13:20:21] <c0lo> =w Brood X
[13:20:21] <systemd> Brood X (Brood 10), the Great Eastern Brood, is one of 15 broods of periodical cicadas that appear regularly throughout the eastern United States. It has - https://en.wikipedia.org
[13:26:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> blah, i missed good conversation here whilst i was slapping ari and zumi on the site
[13:27:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> oddly enough, cicadas don't bother me in the least. neither does fan noise or any white noise. guess my ears are racist.
[13:33:10] <Runaway1956> They still haven't moved the Ever Given, but she is sitting squarely in the middle of the channel now
[13:33:34] <progo> that's an improvement
[13:33:49] <progo> how much damage happened to the canal?
[13:33:54] <progo> can they open for traffic soon?
[13:34:14] <Runaway1956> Not finding pics yet - they had her free of the canal walls last night
[13:42:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, you going to be around in a couple hours? i kinda need to get some work done and zumi's ban expires round about 1.5h from now.
[13:44:20] <FatPhil> just drop it now then, there's no evidence of her beating at the gates
[13:44:36] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[13:44:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, hour n a half of clemency then
[13:45:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> .op
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[13:45:06] -!- mode/#soylent [-b *!*@the.end.of.time] by TheMightyBuzzard
[13:45:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> .deop
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[13:45:23] <FatPhil> thank you
[13:45:59] <FatPhil> and now I can ruin your fan noise joke by saying "it was never white noise anyway, it was brown noise!"
[13:47:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, brown noise is what i'm about to go make before i head up to the church on account of we only have a little bit of emergency TP up there.
[13:49:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> one more for the road though
[13:49:21] <c0lo> Wood shavings should do, if you sharpened your woodplane properly (and don't use power tools).
[13:49:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.securityweek.com
[13:49:28] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[13:49:53] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[13:51:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, the wood plane we have up there can make shavings you can read a paperback through. TR is crazy anal about his hand planes. diamond stones and perfectly flat foot. razor blades harbor a deep envy over towards his plane blades.
[13:58:41] <c0lo> The you don't need TP. Unless you're after some harsher sensations.
[13:58:58] <c0lo> s/The/Then/
[13:58:58] <SedBot> <c0lo> Then you don't need TP. Unless you're after some harsher sensations.
[13:59:47] <FatPhil> but if finer-planed wood would be better than thicker, then surely single-ply TP is better than 3-ply?
[14:01:55] <c0lo> FatPhil, depends on the tastes. Single ply TP allows more occasions for finger-licking for shit connoisseurs.
[14:02:37] <Ingar> get a Japanese robo-toilet with builtin buttsprayer
[14:02:44] <Ingar> no TP needed
[14:04:08] <FatPhil> Experienced those in Korea
[14:04:41] <FatPhil> Erm, interesting concept. Don't disapprove, but, erm, I'm not in a rush to get one at home.
[14:05:00] <c0lo> Ingar, come on, Japanese robo-toilets in US churches renovated by Native Americans? What a sinful idea.
[14:05:01] <FatPhil> <-- luddite
[14:05:30] <FatPhil> As long as the toiled it decorated like a Hindu shrine, I think that's a perfect match.
[14:05:49] <Ingar> and block pots instead of the usual white ofc
[14:05:52] <Ingar> *black
[14:06:05] <c0lo> FatPhil, indeed, what would a sauna look like with a shiny Japanese toy in it.
[14:07:28] <c0lo> And with water spray instead of birch branches.
[14:07:37] <FatPhil> I don't even like having a loo in *sight* of the sauna, let alone in it.
[14:08:40] <c0lo> Did I say that? What, you think I'd shit in a thingy that sprays water in my shithole?
[14:10:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ingar, this is TN. we don't spend that kind of money when we can just put a T in the supply line and tie a handheld kitchen sink sprayer in.
[14:10:17] <FatPhil> But these japanese toys are things you shit in
[14:11:08] <Runaway1956> Barrack Obama's grandmother died . . . 99 years old. There must be a lot of 13 year old marriages in the family line
[14:11:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> or just store the pressure washer in there
[14:11:23] <c0lo> *They* say it. If I'd buy it, I can do whatever I please with it.
[14:11:31] <FatPhil> Did someone post the bumhole recognition paper here? Japanese loos can now do identification based on bumbole scans.
[14:12:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, off to work time. hi, ho.
[14:12:07] <c0lo> LOL. Keeping privates private.
[14:12:36] <FatPhil> https://www.businessinsider.com
[14:12:37] <systemd> ^ 03This Smart Toilet Can Read Your Anus Like a Fingerprint
[14:14:14] <FatPhil> I hope this is true:
[14:14:22] <FatPhil> Smart toilets ~ omit startles
[14:14:44] <Runaway1956> https://kfor.com
[14:14:55] <systemd> ^ 03‘Freeing for me:’ Navajo woman becomes viral sensation with skateboarding videos
[14:14:57] <c0lo> Duct tape over the orifice. Not that orifice, the cams one
[14:14:59] <Runaway1956> I've seen girls skateboarding, but never in long skirts
[14:15:41] <FatPhil> Can the Amish fashion functional skateboards?
[14:16:00] <c0lo> Now search of a Scot skateboarder.
[14:16:24] <FatPhil> Don't make me !boner you, c0lo!
[14:17:25] <c0lo> Which of my comments triggered the boning instincts in you, FatPhil.
[14:18:28] <c0lo> The one alluding Scots?
[14:20:11] <Runaway1956> https://www.vesselfinder.com
[14:20:27] <Runaway1956> The ship is now halfway to Great Bitter Lake
[14:21:07] <Runaway1956> No ships appear to have entered the canal behind her yet - probably going to get ships from Bitter Lake to the Red Sea first
[14:22:23] <Runaway1956> Oh, I just realized, that page updates automagically, when I looked, Given was approaching the Ahmd Humdi Tunnel - now it's past it
[14:22:28] <progo> woo!
[14:22:41] <progo> I thought after a few days of no success this was going to be a weeks-long crisis
[14:23:06] <Runaway1956> It was beginning to feel that way
[14:23:31] <Runaway1956> then I saw those images of three trackhoes working on clearing the bank away, and it felt better
[14:23:52] <c0lo> Come on, it's engineering, not management or politics.
[14:24:14] <Runaway1956> management and politics often get in the way of engineering, you know that
[14:25:30] <c0lo> Really now, Runaway1956, you get to explain me the joke I just made? Lame as it have been.
[14:25:49] <Runaway1956> Oh, I thought you were cereal
[14:27:18] <FatPhil> What's the largest number of "workers" you've seen standing around watching one actual worker actually working on actual work? All they time, these people are fulfilling their job descriptions perfectly.
[14:28:00] <progo> so I saw a video from a container ship captain saying that the ship's side area above the water is like a big sail, and it doesn't have nearly enough sideway thrust on board to overpower the sandstorm it encountered. I wonder why is a ship like that allowed to enter the canal if the storm is happening or about to happen?
[14:29:14] <Runaway1956> progo that story just doesn't hang together for me
[14:29:28] <Bytram> FatPhil: Got a favor to ask. I just posted a breaking story, you're the first editor I see around. Could you please give it a quick review and 2nd it for me?
[14:29:35] <progo> on my social media people are jokingly or otherwise saying this accident was set in motion on purpose
[14:29:48] <FatPhil> The digger looked so small beside the giant vessel, I could just imagine that there were 20 people with clipboards watching on going "at this rate this single digger will free it in a week"
[14:29:48] <progo> I don't have an opinion on whether it's a conspiracy or not
[14:29:58] <c0lo> Try hanging it i pieces, Runaway.
[14:30:07] <FatPhil> progo - by the russians, they want a repeat of Hungary
[14:31:11] <FatPhil> Bytram: the Container Ship one
[14:31:12] <c0lo> Can't navigate at full speed in the channel, don't have fast reaction times to gusts of winds, what's wrong with the story?
[14:31:14] <Runaway1956> No conspiracy progo - the likely chain of events included an electrical power outage, which does happen from time to time
[14:33:13] <progo> but Runaway1956 if the wind is more powerful than your sideways thrusters there is no escape in a canal if the wind wants to turn you and ground you
[14:33:25] <progo> smaller ships get less thrust fromt he wind
[14:33:28] <progo> giant ships need to wait
[14:33:35] <Bytram> FatPhil++ Thank you very much!
[14:33:35] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 111
[14:34:27] <Runaway1956> Yes, but, if it were just the wind blowing your ship around, and anyone alive on the bridge is attempting to correct the situation, you will hit the bank a glancing blow
[14:34:41] <Runaway1956> you won't run head-on into the bank and bury your bow
[14:35:05] <progo> yeah, I would hope that if you can't escape you can at least drop anchor and call for help
[14:35:09] <Runaway1956> Several articles have hinted and teased the idea of a power outage, but no details have really come out
[14:35:37] <progo> I'm sure there's so much politics involved that the truth won't be as forthcoming as with the Costa Concordia disaster
[14:35:45] <c0lo> Over-compensate and you'll hit the opposite bank due to inertia.
[14:35:47] <progo> we will have to wait for some years
[14:35:49] <Runaway1956> Dropping anchor takes minutes, not seconds, lol
[14:36:08] <FatPhil> Bytram: I made one of the links sound more sexy, but apart from that it was all good.
[14:36:20] <progo> yes, and it probably takes minutes for the wind to overpower a ship like that
[14:36:32] <progo> everything moves slow and you need to react as soon as you can possibly know something is wrong
[14:36:35] <Bytram> TYVM! /me goes to take a look
[14:37:04] <Runaway1956> progo you have to bear in mind how narrow the canal is
[14:37:27] <progo> and it takes a long time to accelerate the ship from no turning and no drifting sideways
[14:37:47] <c0lo> And you'll have to think how heavy the boat is.
[14:37:51] <Runaway1956> a little destroyer like I was on could make a U-turn if done very carefully, those big ships aren't so maneuverable
[14:39:14] <c0lo> If you catch the bank rather than a glancing blo, the inertia will bury the bow deeper.
[14:40:29] <c0lo> And the tail (or whatever the name) will go the other way.
[14:40:54] <progo> they train for maneuvering in simulators, right?
[14:41:32] <FatPhil> cue clips of Tori Bellici coming off his bike in Mythbusters
[14:42:05] <progo> I saw a youtube video of a couple living on a small blue-water single-mast sailboat, with the girl learning to dock with their single electric motor and no bow thruster. and this is a boat so small you could almost fit it on a trailer
[14:42:16] <progo> she spent a whole afternoon working on it
[14:42:23] <Bytram> FatPhil: I looked again. Fixed a typo I had made originally. Then made some edits to improve readability and encourage discussion.
[14:42:24] <c0lo> I doubt they can make simulators good enough for boats in any conditions. If they could, they wouldn't need pilots and pilot boats.
[14:42:27] <Bytram> teamwork++
[14:42:27] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 57
[14:42:34] <Bytram> FatPhil++
[14:42:34] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 112
[14:46:32] <c0lo> Rrrright, the "Russian nuclear submarine Kursk" bang in the middle, on a tangent to the story. Couldn't fit it to the end of summary, bytram, could you?
[14:47:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stuck Container Ship "Ever Given" Now Free and Under Way -- What Next? - https://sylnt.us
[14:48:10] <c0lo> And no details how they did it. Was by maaajiqk, eh?
[15:00:37] <Runaway1956> They just kept digging - that and several tug boats pulling at high tide
[15:01:25] <Runaway1956> She has entered the southern portion of the lake, where it begins to widen out
[15:47:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - OpenSSL Fixes High-Severity Flaw That Allows Hackers to Crash Servers - https://sylnt.us
[15:55:01] <Runaway1956> Well, the Given has traversed the southern leg of the lake, and has made it to about 1/2 way through the narrower channel to the lake proper
[15:57:11] <Runaway1956> Still no sign of any other ships maneuvering in preparation to get underway
[15:58:23] <FatPhil> they're casting lots
[15:58:43] <Runaway1956> Well, I want the purple robe!
[15:59:06] <FatPhil> looking for some old-school three-stooges level physical comedy as 2 tankers aim for the entrance at the same time...
[16:18:31] <Runaway1956> First indication of movement - YM Wish appears to be underway, and meeting Ever Given
[16:19:18] <Runaway1956> I don't know what Wish is, but it appears to be as large as the Ever Given
[16:20:55] <Ingar> might be to move some containers
[16:24:46] <Runaway1956> They have met and passed each other, Wish continues south bound toward the lower canal
[16:31:37] <Runaway1956> Ever Given now meeting Maersk Esmeraldas - seems clear they are going to clear all the shipping out of the lake before any north bound traffice is allowed to enter
[16:32:53] <Runaway1956> I see no traffic entering the canal at Port Said either.
[16:34:25] <Runaway1956> Now Ever Globe is moving south on the lake, should be meeting Ever Given in just 4 or 5 minutes
[16:48:24] <Ingar> it almost sounds like live coverage of a sports event
[16:52:29] <FatPhil> tracker webpage doesn't work in my palemoon
[16:55:04] <Ingar> using a text-to-speech to listen to Runaway1956's coverage.
[16:56:09] <Runaway1956> FatPhil - that's why I have multiple web browsers installed - I'm looking at tracking pages in SRWare Iron with
[17:00:18] <FatPhil> I have a firefox for tracking the brewpub's production and sales, and I've not checked what the 2nd half of march has been like yet, so I'll take a peek, and see if the tracker works there.
[17:04:39] <Runaway1956> also, if the page doesn't seem to update for awhile, try zooming out a little bit, and zoom back in - it sorta works as a refresh without loading the whole page again
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[18:32:03] <Bytram> Runaway1956: There's an icon with two arrows with the point of one at the tail of the other in a circle. That's the refresh button. 2nd from the bottom on the left-hand side (LHS)
[18:33:25] <Bytram> Sort of like a recycling symbol, but round instead of circular and with only two arrows instead of 3.
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[18:37:49] <chromas> So only reuse and recycle. no reduce
[18:41:40] * TheMightyBuzzard cackles
[18:41:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://babylonbee.com
[18:41:49] <systemd> ^ 03The Bee Explains: What Is Libertarianism?
[18:43:02] <Runaway1956> Thanks Bytram - I now see a whole line of ships proceeding southbound into and through the canal.
[18:43:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> you have good eyes, that's a long way from ourkansas
[18:44:02] <Runaway1956> YM Wish is passing just about where the Given was crashed into the wall
[18:44:46] * Runaway1956 throws some chicken feed into the buzzard pen to quiet the cackling
[18:45:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, ima get my nap in then go BACK to the freakin church to mow.
[18:45:35] <Runaway1956> Forget the nap - I tried it and was disturbed by the local wildlife known as "kids"
[18:46:51] <Bytram> !grab Runaway1956
[18:46:51] <Bender> Added quote 1035
[18:46:56] <Bytram> =)
[18:55:51] <Runaway1956> AHA! I see six ships that have entered the canal at the Port Said end, and a line of orange icons approaching from the med.
[18:56:49] <Runaway1956> Don't know the difference between orange and yellow icons, maybe size?
[19:03:01] <chromas> Click the gear on the left and it shows colors in the filter section
[19:03:15] <chromas> Orange is tanker; yellow is cargo
[19:05:10] <Runaway1956> my color vision fails me when I open the icon - I think I agree that orange is tanker
[19:56:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - As the Arctic Warms, Lightning Strikes are More Frequent -- Even Near the North Pole - https://sylnt.us - watch-out-Santa!
[21:45:13] <Bytram> =g CBD
[21:45:14] <systemd> https://www.health.harvard.edu - Cannabidiol (CBD) — what we know and what we don't - Harvard ...
[21:45:20] <Bytram> = CBDw
[21:45:40] <Bytram> =w CBD
[21:45:41] <systemd> CBD commonly refers to: Cannabidiol, a cannabinoid found in cannabis Central business district, the commercial center of a city CBD may also refer to: - https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:48:48] <Runaway1956> I've seen this stupid headline at least six times today - it's stupider than stupid I think
[21:49:01] <Runaway1956> https://www.rt.com
[21:49:04] <systemd> ^ 03‘I’m scared’: Top US health official warns of ‘impending doom’ as new Covid-19 cases increase 10% in a week
[21:50:24] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.techdirt.com
[21:50:27] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Law Firm Hoping to Add Legal Losses to Plaintiffs' Gambling Losses by Suing Google, Apple Over Casin" (31p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:56:34] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.dailydot.com
[21:56:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pro-Amazon Twitter Account Sure Seems to Have a Computer-generated Avatar" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:56:53] <Runaway1956> It probably violates labor laws if Amazon is running the account.
[21:58:24] <Runaway1956> A lunch break is great if there’s time for it but people shouldn’t come to expect them. It’s a courtesy from management imho
[21:58:24] <Runaway1956> — Darla at GYR1 📦 (@AmazonFCDarla)
[21:58:24] <Runaway1956> March 29, 2021
[22:04:02] <chromas> Sounds like a humorbot
[22:25:30] <Runaway1956> =submit https://phys.org
[22:25:35] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Tires Turned Into Graphene That Makes Stronger Concrete" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:31:50] <Bytram> Any word on how the Amazon unionization vote went? Granted, it was only one warehouse (IIRC), but it could very well mark a turning point.
[22:33:08] <Bytram> here we go:
[22:33:13] <Bytram> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[22:33:14] <systemd> ^ 03Why the Amazon unionization vote could take a week
[22:34:26] * Bytram just noticed this fortune on our site: I am totally serious. --Michael David Crawford
[22:35:25] <Bytram> He left a legacy -- would it be the case that I'd be remembered as fondly.
[22:36:17] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.livescience.com
[22:36:25] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Could Humans Ever be Venomous?" (29p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:36:30] <Runaway1956> I've known some venomous people in my time . . .
[22:36:46] <Runaway1956> MDC++
[22:36:46] <Bender> karma - mdc: 3
[22:36:48] <Bytram> my thoughts as well
[22:38:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Begins Deploying "AI Cameras" in Delivery Vans to Monitor Drivers - https://sylnt.us - who-watches-the-watchers?
[22:43:52] <Runaway1956> Unstuffed peppers - not bad
[22:44:28] <Runaway1956> Didn't have enough peppers to make stuffed peppers for everyone, so sliced peppers up, then put all the stuff in a pan and cooked
[22:47:15] <Bytram> "Does anyone want any more?" "No thanks, I'm stuffed!"
[22:47:19] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[22:47:21] <systemd> ^ 03ICON - 3D Printing Homes with Vulcan II
[22:47:28] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[22:47:29] <systemd> Search failed: Key not found: likeCount (std/json.d: 641)
[22:47:38] <Bytram> =yt 9MZcuMjZ2vU
[22:47:38] <systemd> Search failed: Key not found: likeCount (std/json.d: 641)
[22:51:44] <Bytram> Seems obvious, so I must be missing something. Why not put "guides" around the extruded cement to make the sizes vertical? Could even key off the sides of the prior row.
[23:14:13] <Runaway1956> =submit https://futurism.com
[23:14:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New Treatment Makes Teeth Grow Back" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:20:41] <Runaway1956> https://creativedestructionmedia.com
[23:20:44] <systemd> ^ 03Dekalb County, GA Plays Stall Tactics On Open Records Request For 25 Million Voter Registration Application Order Found In Dumpster - CD Media
[23:22:18] <Runaway1956> It's easy to understand that Dekalb County might need 25 million voter registration forms, if they planned to sign up dead people across the state.
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[23:38:27] <Runaway1956> Traffic flowing nonstop southbound through the Suez ever since they opened it up - looks like it may be stopping with the Okee Lilo the last ship
[23:38:51] <Runaway1956> Nothing has moved northbound - south bounders are going it all at one go
[23:43:36] <Runaway1956> Muh Mummy is dead! https://www.upi.com
[23:43:37] <systemd> ^ 03Mummified parrots suggest ancient trade routes crossed South American desert