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[00:25:11] <SoyGuest48353> whattabout the doctor seuss network?
[00:29:08] <chromas> but muh whataboutism
[00:29:34] <chromas> No warnings. They'll just quit showing stuff and people will write all kinds of article about cancellation
[00:30:21] <Runaway1956> I've always avoided hookah bars - you never know when you'll get stabbed in one
[00:30:26] <Runaway1956> or stabbed by one
[00:30:38] <Runaway1956> hookah stabs never heal properly
[00:30:55] <SoyGuest48353> very fashionable here in ~2017-19
[00:31:23] <Runaway1956> Fashionable? Hookah stab scars you mean?
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[01:18:44] <chromas> cbs--
[01:18:44] <Bender> karma - cbs: 0
[01:19:21] <chromas> Found a nice article to sub and it's just some crappy video
[01:23:01] <chromas> https://gizmodo.com
[01:23:02] <systemd> ^ 03This YouTuber Managed to Cook Chicken Through the Power of Slaps
[01:23:12] <chromas> alternative titles
[01:33:41] <Runaway1956> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
[01:33:42] <systemd> ^ 03New Visual Compares the World’s Deadliest Pandemics by Population Impact - And COVID's Placement May Surprise You
[01:34:00] <Runaway1956> According to the number of global deaths at that time the coronavirus was one of the smallest pandemics in modern history.
[01:34:00] <Runaway1956> Since that time the numbers have escalated for the coronavirus but still don’t compare to the great pandemics of the past.
[01:38:44] <AzumaHazuki> so that guy managed to choke the chicken so hard he roasted it? ow.
[01:38:52] <AzumaHazuki> that makes bits of me i don't even have hurt
[01:39:17] <chromas> beat your meat
[01:39:31] <Runaway1956> 'Zumi, the Chicken Chokin' Mama
[01:39:43] <chromas> Still on Wayland?
[01:40:44] <Runaway1956> Wayland, Willie and me
[01:42:55] <Runaway1956> Tom Reed wants to slip his reed to somebody?
[01:46:41] <Runaway1956> https://www.bbc.com
[01:46:44] <systemd> ^ 03Why India is talking about ripped jeans and knees
[01:47:10] <Runaway1956> Ripped jeans are responsible for all the wrongs in India, according to some government mouthpieces
[01:49:58] <chromas> Indian Spongebob?
[01:53:05] <Runaway1956> https://thefederalistpapers.org
[01:53:06] <systemd> ^ 03Patriotic Oklahoma Diners Give Flabbergasted CNN Reporter a Crash Course on Freedom
[01:53:20] <Runaway1956> "my body my choice"
[01:53:51] <AzumaHazuki> ...who is writing these insultingly stupid glurge-y headlines?
[01:54:45] <chromas> My newish motherboard comes with a serial port. A real live serial port! Can't get no datums from it though, even though USB adapters work.
[02:03:04] <Runaway1956> You have a jewish neighbor?
[02:03:30] <Runaway1956> Oh, you said newish - must be a new tribe
[02:03:35] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[02:03:37] <systemd> ^ 03Team Biden’s disgraceful border media blackout
[02:04:39] <chromas> I wish serial port devices were dynamically generated on linux, so I know which ones actually exist
[02:05:19] <Runaway1956> Then there would be jokes
[02:05:43] <Runaway1956> If your Linux had as many serials poking out as it has had poked in, it would look like a porcupine
[02:07:02] <Runaway1956> Racist in Canada trying to get rid of Black Knots
[02:07:09] <Runaway1956> https://globalnews.ca
[02:07:10] <systemd> ^ 03City of Edmonton, residents work to mitigate highly infectious black knot fungus found on trees - Edmonton
[02:07:46] <chromas> Trying to clean up the city..it's too knotty
[02:08:20] <Runaway1956> https://thefederalistpapers.org
[02:08:22] <systemd> ^ 03As Biden Scrambles with Migrant Crisis, Texas Gov. Demands President Answer for Terrorizing Kids
[02:09:03] <chromas> Yay, politix
[02:09:38] <Runaway1956> Not exactly politics - Biden has decided to destroy the US before another Republican can be elected
[02:09:46] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[02:09:47] <systemd> ^ 03Snow - Informer (Official Music Video)
[02:10:23] <chromas> hm, even the usb adapters aren't working on this box. Can I blame systemd at all?
[02:12:02] <Runaway1956> It's always safe to blame either Martyb or Systemd
[02:12:03] <Fnord666> You can always blame systemd
[02:12:15] <Runaway1956> #blame
[02:12:19] <Runaway1956> =blame
[02:12:19] * systemd points at Bytram
[02:13:42] <Fnord666> =blame blamee=systemd
[02:13:42] * systemd points at Fnord666
[02:13:54] <Fnord666> Wait, what?
[02:13:58] <Fnord666> LOL
[02:14:02] <chromas> I have a couple swipy card readers, so I thought I'd set it up to unlock my pc, but I can't get it to work now
[02:14:28] <Runaway1956> try your sippy cup with the reader?
[02:14:43] <chromas> also, if I remember right, the reader outputs the details card info encrypted with a key that's already configured, so I don't have that
[02:15:10] <chromas> Can read the basic info track though (cards have mutiple data tracks)
[02:16:20] <Runaway1956> https://www.scmp.com
[02:16:22] <systemd> ^ 03Joe Biden says he plans to visit Mexican border ‘at some point’
[02:17:40] <chromas> another thing, with this motherboard, I learned Asus boards have a thingymabobber that triggers Windows to install drivers from the firmware automatically
[02:17:57] <chromas> Kinda neat, and totally not ripe for abuse
[02:18:11] <Fnord666> Readers can be configured to either output encrypted card data or plain card data. I have one for each at work.
[02:18:18] * Runaway1956 watches the abuse fruits ripening on the vine
[02:19:29] <chromas> I dunno if I can switch off the encryption on these. They're kinda old. I'll have to look into it some more
[02:19:44] <Fnord666> Are they Mag-Tek readers?
[02:20:29] <chromas> ID Tech
[02:20:31] <chromas> idt-keyinj-010
[02:21:23] <chromas> they were distributed with Revel-brand POS terminals that were replaced
[02:21:31] <Fnord666> https://soylentnews.org
[02:21:34] <systemd> ^ 03CentOS Linux 8 Will End in 2021 - SoylentNews
[02:21:35] <chromas> and by terminals, I mean ipads
[02:21:42] <Fnord666> https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:21:43] <systemd> ^ 03Magnetic stripe card - Wikipedia
[02:22:00] <Fnord666> hmmm. I don't recognize the brand.
[02:22:05] <Runaway1956> Wait - isn't distribution against the law? How can we ever win the war on distribution?
[02:22:40] <chromas> They're using Toast now, which uses customized Android tablets
[02:22:48] <Fnord666> And everyone wants to move to EMV and by everyone I mean the card processors
[02:25:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Computer Giant Acer Hit by $50 Million Ransomware Attack - https://sylnt.us - Missed-opportunity
[02:26:34] <chromas> ah, here we go
[02:26:37] <chromas> "The ASUS UEFI firmware exposes an ACPI table to Windows 10, called "WPBT" or "Windows Platform Binary Table". WPBT is used in the pre-built OEM industry, and is referred to as "the Vendor's Rootkit." Put simply, it is a script that makes Windows copy data from the BIOS to the System32 folder on the machine and execute it during Windows startup - every single time the system is booted."
[02:27:59] <chromas> "Once the desktop is loaded, it manifests itself as a bloatware-looking notification near our system tray, requesting you to install the ASUS Armoury Crate software, by fetching the rest of its installer payload from the Internet. Interestingly, it also installs a basic driver to get the integrated network controller working, which is a nice feature."
[02:32:59] <Fnord666> Ok that's just .... Asking to be abused
[02:33:23] <Runaway1956> Gotta have a feel-good story after chromas tales of abuse
[02:33:29] <Runaway1956> https://www.9news.com.au
[02:33:31] <systemd> ^ 03Baby boy rescued from Western Sydney floodwaters
[02:33:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh, i guess ima just have to go with mate. enlightenment is just too buggy and poorly laid out.
[02:33:50] <chromas> I think Windows 10 took inspiration from Enlightenment
[02:33:56] <Runaway1956> I fear you are close to right TMB
[02:34:01] <chromas> Windows has more control panels though
[02:34:11] <Runaway1956> I love enlightenment, but no one supports it sufficiently
[02:34:19] <chromas> Have you tried lxqt yet? Qt >>>>>>>> gtk
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[02:35:13] <Fnord666> Please tell me that you're not implying that Win10 is enlightened?
[02:35:26] <chromas> or just use blackbox with one of the 10,049 stand-alone panel programs
[02:35:31] <chromas> openbox I guess
[02:35:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd love it if it sat there and did what it was told without trying to be smart
[02:36:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, ain't the window manager, was already using openbox
[02:36:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> on account of lxde
[02:36:22] <chromas> win10 is enlightened. To be fair, you have to have a high IQ.meme
[02:36:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's all the default apps, which i liked from lxde cause they were still gtk2.
[02:38:25] <Runaway1956> https://thefederalistpapers.org
[02:38:26] <systemd> ^ 03Photojournalist Covers Biden's Border Crisis from Mexico After Getting 'Zero Access' from POTUS
[02:39:17] <chromas> unfortunately gtk is leaving behind all the good applications that use it
[02:39:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, i like the snappiness and low overhead of enlightenment but the pretty gets on my very last nerve
[02:39:50] <chromas> agreed. the clock is uggo too. baby blue with a glow on medium gray doesn't look that great
[02:40:18] <Runaway1956> If you can spend endless hours reading the documentation, configuring Enlightenment is a snap
[02:40:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> what i want out of a wm is basically openbox
[02:40:27] * Runaway1956 hasn't spent those countless hours
[02:40:37] <chromas> sounds like you still want openbox, and just a different set of 'default apps'
[02:41:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, was the latest in a long line of excuses to try enlightenment after enough time had passed for me to forget why it sucks
[02:41:25] <chromas> #MeToo
[02:41:44] <chromas> on the plus side, it lets you switch virtual desktops separately per screen, unlike certain other DEs
[02:42:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ever notice the #MeToo crowd could just as easily be described as #MeatEww?
[02:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, first thing i do in any wm is to set virtual desktops to 1
[02:43:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1920 is plenty of room for a bunch of windows on the taskbar
[02:44:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> specially when you have a tabbed terminal emulator
[02:45:50] <Runaway1956> Agreed - two 1080p monitors gives me lots of room for so many apps I can lose track of them
[02:45:56] <Runaway1956> no need for virtual desktops
[02:46:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, i never use the second monitor for anything except conky and wine stuff that gets confused when you let another window get on top of it
[02:46:32] <chromas> watch out if you're using pipewire as your sound daemon. you may need to integrate the new config files to get working sound
[02:49:40] <c0lo> Runaway1956, in 8 years time, Texas will be a choke blue state with those immigrating kids reaching the voting age. And anyway, there's a need to replace those 1/2M geezers that croaked up due to Trump. Even better, their replacement will work and for a lot less money.
[02:49:55] <c0lo> What' not to like? (grin)
[02:50:03] <Runaway1956> *sigh*
[02:50:20] <AzumaHazuki> is it him posting all those ridiculously skewed headlines? figures
[02:50:22] <Runaway1956> Immigrants, especially Hispanic immigrants, tend to be CONSERVATIVE
[02:50:40] <Runaway1956> it was Mexicans who passed Proposition 8 in California
[02:50:50] * c0lo got inspiration from those headlines. Yeee-haaa, baby.
[02:51:12] <Runaway1956> Poor idiot zumi - puts her fingers in her ears, then whines about shit she can't understand
[02:53:02] <AzumaHazuki> that guy's going to wear a hole in his chest wall right above his spleen
[02:53:08] <AzumaHazuki> and he won't even understand why
[02:53:57] <Runaway1956> Someone explain to zumi that I've already lived 64 years and 11 months with a faulty heart - when it gives out, it gives out
[02:54:01] <c0lo> Those Mexicans are contrarians, right? They need to revolt against something. What they'll be contrary to, in Texas?
[02:54:46] <Runaway1956> Viva la Revoluccion!
[02:54:55] <Runaway1956> Viva Pancho Villa!
[02:55:07] <Runaway1956> And, Viva Speedy Gonzalez!
[02:55:08] <c0lo> Viva Zapata, yes.
[02:55:33] <Runaway1956> Me zapatas need mending
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[03:01:10] <Runaway1956> An unhinged man was arrested in Queens so that his hinges could be lubricated and retightened.
[03:01:24] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[03:01:26] <systemd> ^ 03Maniac busted for slashing 3 straphangers on subway: sources
[03:04:17] <Runaway1956> https://twitter.com
[03:04:18] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[03:05:39] <chromas> Boicot Backblaze!
[03:06:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, boycots are sexist and girlcots are transphobic
[03:06:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> armycots are fine though
[03:07:04] <chromas> do army cots come with three hots?
[03:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of the time. for a given value of hot
[03:07:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, bedtime for me
[03:08:01] <chromas> pocket-warmed mres
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[03:09:22] <Runaway1956> Lost Joe on the tarmac
[03:09:26] <Runaway1956> https://twitter.com
[03:09:26] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[03:21:06] <chromas> Can't get bass management to work in pipewire. I can't even blame Lennart for that because it works fine in Pulseaudio
[03:21:09] <chromas> :'(
[03:24:08] <Runaway1956> You don't need the bass - it'll make you go deaf
[03:25:53] <Runaway1956> https://twitter.com
[03:25:54] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[03:27:24] <Runaway1956> https://www.naturalnews.com
[03:27:25] <systemd> ^ 03Future hurricane seasons might start earlier, but not because of climate change
[03:28:18] * chromas squints eyes at the domain name
[03:28:32] <Runaway1956> Are you Asian?
[03:28:53] <chromas> Agin'
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[03:30:45] <chromas> https://go.theregister.com
[03:30:46] <systemd> ^ 03OVH writes off another data centre – SBG1 – as small second fire detected, doused ( https://www.theregister.com )
[03:31:00] <Runaway1956> https://www.naturalnews.com
[03:31:01] <systemd> ^ 03Supreme Court mulls constitutionality of warrantless home invasions
[03:31:04] <chromas> We need common sense cloudctl
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[03:34:14] <chromas> :q
[03:34:25] <chromas> fpos my terminal disappeared
[03:34:36] <Deucalion> I stole it
[03:35:38] <Deucalion> And what you need is :q!
[03:35:56] <chromas> well I was in less anyhow, so a plain q would've worked
[03:36:11] <c0lo> Noooice https://www.youtube.com
[03:36:13] <systemd> ^ 03Bhangra dance meets Irish music for St Patrick's Day
[03:36:25] <chromas> I don't see any evidence the serial port is even detected, aside from a /dev/ttyS0 that doesn't throw an error
[03:37:07] <Deucalion> what are you working on?
[03:37:22] <chromas> Thanks for giving me a notice about RTE, youtube
[03:37:55] <chromas> serial magstrip card reader. works on usb serial port but not using the onboard serial port on the motherboard
[03:37:56] <Deucalion> OK... chromas subbed a bot in....
[03:38:23] <chromas> nah, I clicked c0lo's link and youtube has a little special message at the bottom of the video like it does for flat earth videos
[03:38:57] <Deucalion> Can your OS see the onboard COM port?
[03:39:10] <chromas> I don't know where it would show up. Nothing in lspci
[03:40:35] <chromas> if I run picocom on /dev/ttyS0 it doesn't throw an error like it does on all the other numbers
[03:40:39] <chromas> but no data
[03:41:03] <chromas> maybe I need to connect the onboard port to one of the usb ones and see if I can send
[03:41:13] <Deucalion> uhhhh no
[03:41:41] <Deucalion> The USB > COM is just emulating a COM port
[03:41:46] <chromas> is connecting two serial ports illegal anymore?
[03:41:49] <Deucalion> its abstracted
[03:42:15] <chromas> right but I could try sending something between the two ports and see if anything happens
[03:44:37] <Deucalion> Your most likely issue is COM settings. With a serial device you have to get the Baud, Data, Stop, Parity and Flow Control settings to match with the device.
[03:45:12] <chromas> Right, but the card reader works fine with the same settings on a usb serial port adapter; just not with the onboard serial port
[03:45:25] <Deucalion> Mismatch will either give you hieroglyphs ot no output
[03:46:25] <Deucalion> But you said you did not know wich /dev the serial port was, without knowing which it is how are you checking its settings?
[03:47:07] <Deucalion> The USB Serial adapter
[03:47:22] <chromas> minicom lets me look at and change settings. I dunno if they're accurate for the onboard port but I can change them to different values and nothing happens
[03:47:52] <chromas> I'm trying /dev/ttyS0, which is the only one that doesn't throw an error when I try to use it
[03:49:35] <Deucalion> apparently I have 31 ttyS on this here machine... it has no actual serial ports..
[03:50:05] <chromas> Right. On the laptop, which has no serial ports, they all throw a "FATAL: failed to add port: Filedes is not a tty"
[03:50:24] <chromas> on the desktop, with one onboard serial ports, ttyS0 doesn't do that, while the rest do
[03:50:58] <Deucalion> Maybe try disable the physical COM post in BIOS / UEFI and play spot the /dev/ that disappears :D
[03:51:02] <chromas> I get the error trying to use picocom with it. minicom acts like everything's fine, but still no output
[03:51:25] <chromas> oh sheeit. good idea. I don't even know if it's enabled
[03:51:33] * chromas reboots
[03:51:37] <Deucalion> ;)
[03:53:07] <chromas> firmware shows it's on and even shows the irq and stuff, which I dunno if linux even lets me adjust that
[03:53:30] * chromas toggles; reboots
[04:00:18] * Deucalion jiggles patiently
[04:00:45] <Deucalion> https://www.youtube.com
[04:00:47] <systemd> ^ 03I Am Karate - Bloom
[04:01:14] <Deucalion> Chilll.....
[04:02:00] <chromas> it shows up in the kernel log, with matching irq and whatnot
[04:02:22] * chromas goes for walk instead
[04:02:38] <Deucalion> Can you see what /dev/ttyS it gets assigned?
[04:02:55] <chromas> ttyS0
[04:03:27] <Deucalion> So now figure out how to set the COM settings :D
[04:04:07] <Deucalion> Sounds like your USB>COM adapter just happens to initialise with the right ones.
[04:04:19] <c0lo> =submit https://gizmodo.com
[04:04:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Researchers at NIST Put Cloth Face Masks Under a Microscope" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:06:32] <Deucalion> If in doubt go with baud=9600 data=8 stop=1 parity=none flow control=none - it's what everyone uses these days as default.
[04:10:22] <chromas> matches what it's doing, except the speed
[04:10:42] <chromas> when I change the speed, it shows (38400) after the speed, so maybe the port doesn't want to change. fpos
[04:11:10] <chromas> although that speed should get at least some sort of output, like it does on the usb one
[04:11:23] <Deucalion> If any serial parameter is mismatch you will get nothing or garbage
[04:12:43] <Deucalion> Take it from me - dealing with RS232 and RS485 connected devices going on 30 yrs... match them. There is no close it kinda works.
[04:14:55] <chromas> it kinda works at the wrong speed on the serial adapter so it should on the 'real' one too
[04:15:12] <chromas> and of course, works fine at the right speed on usb adapter
[04:15:23] * chromas blames TheMightyBuzzard
[04:15:29] <Deucalion> Whos says it "should"?
[04:17:26] <Deucalion> Serial parameters need to be matched between device and host, end of. It's not going to auto-negotiate.
[04:18:06] * AzumaHazuki hears "serial line discipline," imagines tiny 8-bit pixel dominatrix
[04:18:26] * Deucalion jiggles
[04:22:09] <Deucalion> chromas, just to throw another fire in the iron you need to know how your serial cable is wired. Are all the flow control pins just looped back? Is it only pinned for DTR or CTS or both? etc. It's not complex really just fucking tiresome.
[04:22:28] <Deucalion> Wait.. maybe it want XON/XOFF..
[04:27:00] <chromas> I've toggled a few of those
[04:27:15] <chromas> I have noticed modern hardware with serial ports is pretty lazy now
[04:27:26] <chromas> Programmed a couple locks the other day that only use ground and one pin
[04:27:44] <chromas> Super expensive locks...the serial port's on the outside
[04:27:58] <chromas> at least you have to key in a privileged code to enable it though
[04:29:42] <Deucalion> That is not serial as in RS232 then. It's a ubiquitous 8 pin micro controller based thing. Just because you see a 9 pin DSub conector does not mean it is "serial" - it cpuld be wired to anything intenally.
[04:30:11] <chromas> close enough
[04:30:55] <chromas> anyhow, re "who says..." I do! One device on one serial port should work on another serial port with the same settings
[04:31:07] * chromas nick J4Jenius
[04:31:44] <Deucalion> RS232 cannot operate on just 2 pins. At minimum it needs TX, RX and Signal Ground - in which case you have to use software flow control (XON/XOFF)
[04:32:56] <chromas> They probably do. Their crappy software that looks like it was written in VisualBasic automatically does whatever it needs to work
[04:34:32] <Deucalion> VisualBasic on linux? I'm going to bed.
[04:36:14] <chromas> lol
[04:36:20] <c0lo> =submit awwww https://www.politicususa.com
[04:36:22] <chromas> it was a windows program
[04:36:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Russians Have Cut Off Mitch McConnell’s Cash in Kentucky" (25p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:36:57] <chromas> c0lo and Runaway1956 sitting in a tree, submitting junk into the queue
[04:37:13] <AzumaHazuki> wait, you mean mcconnel's a russian asset? say it ain't so
[04:37:34] <chromas> not anymore
[04:39:00] <chromas> trmpu_saying_youre_fired.mp4
[04:48:19] <c0lo> chromas, just so that you don't get bored doing serial ports on linux all day long.
[04:48:33] <c0lo> =submit https://thehill.com
[04:48:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Law Enforcement, ACLU Urge Biden to End ICE Partnership Programs" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:50:00] <AzumaHazuki> c0lo: question. if someone hits McConnell over the head hard enough, 1) will his evil little turtle-looking neck swallow the entire thing and 2) will the 400 plus bills he shoved up his flaccid rectum to die a slow horrible death come bursting out?
[04:50:08] <AzumaHazuki> and if 2), all at once, or one by one like a printer?
[04:50:50] <AzumaHazuki> i ask in the name of scientific curiosity
[04:53:01] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, "if someone hits McConnell over the head hard enough" - please don't. I got adjusted to normal level of noise while WFH.
[04:54:30] <c0lo> Cracked-bell like sounds are just horendous.
[04:55:05] <c0lo> https://twitter.com
[04:55:06] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[04:55:36] <AzumaHazuki> i assume the sound would be muffled by said cracked bell getting shoved a good 9-15 inches down into the neck/torso
[04:57:24] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
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[04:58:28] <AzumaHazuki> you know, about the transwomen in sports thing...the obvious solution here is to have tiers, like in wrestling. Stratify by bone density, lean mass, serum testosterone...
[04:58:55] <AzumaHazuki> that fixes the problem without even bringing gender identity into it. plus, from what i've read, as transwomen continue transition they lose lean mass due to hormonal changes
[04:59:22] <Runaway1956> I don't know about tiers, but no man who grew up with a supply of testosterone should compete in any women's sports
[04:59:54] <Runaway1956> if he was physically neutered before age 7 or so, then maybe
[05:00:47] <Runaway1956> age six is about the time that girls put on a growing spurt, and grow taller than boys, so just about that time is when the testosterone needs to be shut off
[05:00:59] <AzumaHazuki> also, ONCE AGAIN, where's the FtM representation? Transmen are real, I knew 3 through college and it turns out my new housemate is #4.
[05:01:30] <Runaway1956> no one gives a fuck about the FtM - no one
[05:13:53] <c0lo> Absofunckinglutely mindblowing https://twitter.com
[05:13:54] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
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[05:35:42] <chromas> Finally some good news
[05:35:49] <chromas> and by good, I mean something postable
[05:46:27] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
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[06:08:55] * Runaway1956 notes that Colo has had his mind blown
[06:09:45] * Runaway1956 also notes that the duo is awesome
[06:10:13] * Runaway1956 watches again
[06:12:11] * c0lo approves Runaway1956 blowing his mind
[06:13:18] <Runaway1956> I was halfway through it the first time, before I realized just what he was doing, lol
[06:18:59] <AzumaHazuki> did he have to get a bunch of ribs removed to do it?
[06:20:47] <chromas> Haven't seen Police Academy in decades. Probably about time for a reboot
[06:20:59] <chromas> But even more importantly, he was in Spaceballs
[06:24:08] <Runaway1956> https://www.newsweek.com
[06:24:09] <systemd> ^ 03The government just admitted it doesn't really try to collect taxes owed by rich people
[06:25:47] <c0lo> They should stop not trying.
[06:26:05] <chromas> But then who will give them their bribes?
[06:26:20] <Runaway1956> We couldn't agree more c0lo
[06:28:03] <c0lo> chromas, I see your point. How about the make the bribe negociations transparent and open for anyone that has a stake in the issue?
[06:29:00] <chromas> Good idea. We should make it into a tv show. Finally C-SPAN 6 will have some action
[06:29:05] <c0lo> I mean, look, it's unfair to keep Runaway from the negociating table when those tax... err... bribes could contribute to his health car.
[06:29:19] <c0lo> s/car/care/
[06:29:19] <SedBot> <c0lo> I mean, look, it's unfair to keep Runaway from the negociating table when those tax... err... bribes could contribute to his health care.
[06:29:33] <chromas> Reboot The Price is Right, but they're voting on issues with their wallets
[06:33:16] <AzumaHazuki> c0lo, remember the election? i pointed out that had trump won he very likely would lose medicare and social security precisely when hitting the age to need them
[06:33:46] <AzumaHazuki> he doesn't seem to care (although he never did have a good answer for that either). runaway is basically a suicide bomber without the C4 Wonderbra (or the courage of his convictions)
[06:34:15] <AzumaHazuki> but only a complete foaming gnashing nihilist would blow himself up by inches to "own the libs" like that
[06:34:57] <Runaway1956> Oh, Jesus - 'Zumi launching into another rant about me.
[06:35:31] <Runaway1956> If the silly cunt puts a person on ignore, then she shouldn't talk about the person she is ignoring
[06:44:34] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, be prepared for people to change in the course of their life. Sometimes over the periods of months.
[06:45:06] <AzumaHazuki> c0lo: he's not going to change. this is ground-in like a permanent bloodstain at this point
[06:45:23] <c0lo> Runaway1956, she did had a point tho. Driving it again and again is, of course, useless.
[06:45:41] * AzumaHazuki LOLs @ Hallow shitting his pants over the prospect of her getting her hands on the Gab leaks and grep'ing them for certain peoples' usernames
[06:46:25] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, *did I say Runaway changed*? Or that he didn't change?
[06:46:55] <AzumaHazuki> Neither. As far as Hallow goes, i wonder what he's hiding? and double LOL at the constant shrieks of "sEkRiT pUhLeEeEeEeEssss!"
[06:47:27] <AzumaHazuki> the regular ones will do just fine. you'd think such a fine upstanding law-n-order-n-Free-Markets guy wouldn't be afraid of the people upholding law and order...
[06:47:51] <Runaway1956> Whether 'zumi has a point or not, she still acts the douche at every opportunity
[06:48:30] <AzumaHazuki> gee, it's almost like he's as much of a lawless hypocrite as the "back the blue!" crowd who assaulted police when said police stopped "hurting the right people" :D
[06:50:08] <c0lo> Heh, Runaway, I find hard to make such a fine distinction between a douche and an asshole. The light is very strong in 'straya, we treat them the same 'round here.
[06:50:30] <AzumaHazuki> is he mad at me? :D I have him on ignore so i can't see what he's typing and CBA to go check the logs
[06:50:54] * chromas sets up a "he's on ignore" counter
[06:51:28] <Runaway1956> https://soylentnews.org
[06:51:29] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | The Digital Gulag ( https://soylentnews.org )
[06:52:01] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, then he does have a point when he says "If [snip] puts a person on ignore, then she shouldn't talk about the person she is ignoring"
[06:52:25] <AzumaHazuki> he doesn't, really
[06:52:35] <AzumaHazuki> also: make me :D
[06:52:56] <chromas> Up next: "I know you are but what am I?"
[06:53:11] <AzumaHazuki> ...yup, he's mad.
[06:53:47] * c0lo rephrases to "Then I consider he *does have* a point [etc]"
[06:53:59] * c0lo states an opinion
[06:54:38] <AzumaHazuki> Ah, okay. He seems to need to have it all over the forums too. Poor little manlet. The big scary mean lady on the internet made him cwy again QoQ
[06:55:05] <Runaway1956> #tell Bytram to review the channel starting at [03/22/21 01:33:16] <AzumaHazuki> c0lo, remember the election? i pointed out that had trump won he very likely would lose medicare and social security precisely when hitting the age to need them
[06:55:05] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[06:55:47] <AzumaHazuki> ...LOL, is he going to resort to sending me nastygrams through MrPlow now?
[06:59:41] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[06:59:43] <systemd> ^ 03Culture Beat - Mr Vain (Official Video)
[06:59:53] <chromas> I don't remember any of these dance songs having the rap bits when they were on the radio
[07:00:48] <chromas> Must be the Nelson Bandana effect
[07:03:21] <AzumaHazuki> Okay, that should do it for the night. Let's find lighter things to talk about
[07:05:05] <Runaway1956> actually chromas - rap just sucks - but there is the odd song here and there that is worth listening to
[07:05:25] <Runaway1956> I guess they are the exceptions that prove the rule
[07:05:39] <boru> A pity you couldn't have said that before all of the drama in the scrollback. You and c0lo seem a bit obsessed with this runway chap, and it's pretty imature to keep baiting him even after you've /ignored him.
[07:06:16] <Runaway1956> boru++
[07:06:16] <Bender> karma - boru: 46
[07:06:20] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, here's a bedtime story. Maybe even institutions can change in months https://www.nbcwashington.com
[07:06:21] <systemd> ^ 03Maryland Officers Deescalate Situation, Offer Compassion to Man in Behavioral Crisis
[07:06:34] <boru> I mean, agree to disagree on whatever topic, but this is just nonsense.
[07:07:07] <AzumaHazuki> This gives me some hope, c0lo, yes. If we'd stop making cops do all kinds of things they're not trained for and let them just do actual police work, there'd be a lot less friction
[07:07:07] <boru> The SNR isn't particularly high here to be fair, but this isn't doing it any favours.
[07:07:14] <c0lo> Boru, I'm not baiting him. I'm just stinging him in a friendly manner.
[07:07:34] <boru> Well, fair enough.
[07:07:42] <Runaway1956> let it be known that c0lo isn't a problem in this channel - or anywhere
[07:07:45] <AzumaHazuki> i've never been on the "defund the police!" bandwagon because that's bloody stupid...but i am very much on the "unbundle the police" side.
[07:07:56] <Runaway1956> he and I disagree about a lot, but he is mostly pretty damned civil
[07:08:27] <c0lo> I can change in ugl damned civil, if you like.
[07:08:38] <c0lo> s/ugl/ugly/
[07:08:38] <SedBot> <c0lo> I can change in ugly damned civil, if you like.
[07:08:53] <chromas> uml
[07:09:07] <boru> No.
[07:09:11] <boru> Just no.
[07:09:11] <Runaway1956> Just be the homely you that we all know and love - no need to look like Azumi
[07:09:13] <chromas> diagram all the things
[07:09:19] <boru> chromas, please stop.
[07:09:48] <boru> No OOM before breakfast.
[07:10:20] * chromas tries to connect himself to a kick node
[07:10:33] <c0lo> State-transition automata design it is then, boru.
[07:11:19] <c0lo> Satisfy both compiler nerds and social construct theorists.
[07:11:27] <boru> I hope you both end up living out the rest of your lives as ORB/RMI/SOAP/VOMIT programmers working for oracle or IBM.
[07:11:46] <chromas> server fan's just spinning hard as can be. I ssh in, htop, nothing afoot. fan acts all innocent
[07:12:17] <boru> What does `last` tell you? Any new entries in /etc/passwd?
[07:12:26] <c0lo> Yes, Json Web API is soooo much better. And it's OSS.
[07:12:48] <boru> Come on, I haven't even had coffee yet.
[07:13:00] <chromas> Huh, learned a new command. Thanks
[07:13:02] <chromas> boru++
[07:13:02] <Bender> karma - boru: 47
[07:13:11] <chromas> don't see any. also, ssh is keys-only
[07:13:22] <boru> I have no idea how I got so much karma. I am a terrible person.
[07:13:40] <chromas> So am I. I think karma's inverted
[07:13:49] <boru> Yeah, must've wrapped around.
[07:13:51] <chromas> It's like a badness index
[07:13:54] <c0lo> Hey, dontcha love sipping coffee over Java libraries for remote services, boru?
[07:14:40] <boru> I think I would be sipping concentrated HCl at that point.
[07:15:05] <chromas> How about a graphical programming system with java and cobol syntax that uses xml to connect graphical nodes together?
[07:15:29] <boru> chromas; I'd set up a packet sniffer in front of that box. Anyone worth their salt will not allow their processes to be listed from userland.
[07:15:29] <chromas> all run under electron, of course
[07:15:45] <boru> You mean something like labview or simulink?
[07:16:00] <chromas> mebbe. haven't used 'em
[07:16:04] <boru> Lucky you./
[07:17:35] <chromas> I was disappointed when I came up with the node-based programming idea then discovered there's over 9.000 implementations and the idea's not that great anyhow
[07:17:46] <chromas> it's basically graphical pipes
[07:17:47] <boru> I actually expunged several hundred MB of labview a few jobs ago and replaced it with a something I wrote from scratch in C. It was to find stable operating points of tuneable lasers with sweep patterns and some rudimentary image processing. The labview would take >24 hours to calibrate a single laser, whereas this program would take 15m.
[07:18:36] <boru> Yes, it is a terrible idea. I strongly advocate against scientists, hardware engineers and academics writing programs.
[07:19:18] <boru> Well, I am part hardware engineer, so I already disqualify myself with that statement.
[07:19:30] <boru> But I am strongly multidisciplinary.
[07:19:35] <c0lo> =submit https://www.protocol.com
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[07:19:46] <chromas> So you're not strongly typed?
[07:19:47] <SoyGuest48353> dataflow languages are great
[07:19:54] <boru> Shutup, FP.
[07:20:08] <chromas> they're nice for compositing and material building I guess
[07:20:26] <chromas> (3d rendering materials)
[07:20:48] <boru> On second thought, I'd consider sed and awk to be dataflow languages, so I will partially agree.
[07:20:52] <SoyGuest48353> nah, after working in realtime audio and video processing, dataflow's the only model that works. Everything's Just In Time.
[07:21:07] <boru> Ah, you mean like a pipeline?
[07:21:12] <boru> Filters and whatnot?
[07:21:18] <SoyGuest48353> yup
[07:21:26] <boru> I've done some of that with astronomical data.
[07:21:32] <boru> And yes, it makes the most sense.
[07:21:38] <c0lo> =submit https://arstechnica.com
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[07:21:52] <boru> However, using labview or its ilk, is an awful idea.
[07:22:16] <chromas> If only Scratch had plugins
[07:22:44] <boru> Don't bother with all of these nonsense languages. Forth is the only language you need to know.
[07:23:19] <chromas> I like Haskell because something or another on my box wants it installed and there's always more updates for 50 related packages
[07:23:48] <boru> Are you using xmonad or something?
[07:24:02] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
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[07:24:24] <boru> Haskell is a very effective space heater.
[07:26:08] <c0lo> =submit https://arstechnica.com
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[07:26:42] <AzumaHazuki> oh goodie, armed police droids. exactly what we need.
[07:26:57] <boru> Wtf, they have those over there, now?
[07:27:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stem Cells Derived From Fat Show Promise as a Treatment for Mass Radiation Exposure - https://sylnt.us
[07:27:20] <boru> As in non-bomb disposal drones?
[07:27:20] <SoyGuest48353> how else are kids trained on FPSs supposed to do their job?
[07:27:27] <chromas> They don't have to have them to want to ban 'em
[07:27:42] <boru> They already do that with predator drones. Truly dystoptian stuff.
[07:27:43] <chromas> SoyGuest48353: good point, seeing as the schools are closed
[07:28:39] <AzumaHazuki> next: a law that says damaging or attempting to damage said robots in the process of police action is equivalent to assault on an officer and may be met with deadly force
[07:28:40] <boru> Not enough war going on for the MIC, I guess. Better start pumping the tech into civil defence.
[07:28:48] <AzumaHazuki> "he's coming right for us!" from 20 miles away
[07:28:59] <c0lo> #tell TheMightyBuzzard https://pbs.twimg.com
[07:28:59] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[07:29:08] <chromas> old south park is best south park
[07:33:06] <AzumaHazuki> c0lo: the cat just misunderstood "sweater kittens" and thought there were some friends in there :3
[07:35:04] <Runaway1956> https://www.waynedupree.com
[07:35:05] <systemd> ^ 03[VIDEO] Your Jaw Will Drop When You See How Brutal ABC News Attacks Joe Biden - WayneDupree.com
[07:36:46] <chromas> so far all the thousands of haskell packages (including x509 validation and emoji libs) are for something called pandoc, which converts between markup formats
[07:37:09] <boru> Oh yeah, that crap.
[07:37:27] <boru> I would not that let that anywhere near any of my machines for the amount of deps it has.
[07:37:41] * chromas is uninstalling
[07:37:53] <chromas> dunno what I had it installed for but nothing seems to depend on it
[07:38:26] <boru> Someone probably added it as a dep and then reverted it again when they saw the result.
[07:38:38] <chromas> I do recall building something that required both python and something else like java for the build system
[07:38:51] <Runaway1956> https://twitter.com
[07:38:52] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://twitter.com )
[07:39:11] * chromas tries to set a record for how much headshaking he can generate
[07:41:59] <chromas> New renewable energy idea: Install magnets on greybeards' beards, with coils below them, then show them all the latest technology developments for unlimited headshaking
[07:42:20] <SoyGuest48353> they already have that
[07:42:35] <SoyGuest48353> that's why their beards are all stuck together, it's the magnets
[07:42:52] <chromas> sounds like the need to reverse the polarity
[07:43:19] <SoyGuest48353> monopoles would help
[07:43:45] <c0lo> Better still, nationalize Brits energy sector and connect a generator to Maggie Tatcher
[07:44:21] <AzumaHazuki> why, bleeding off the excess heat from her little magma crater in Hell?
[07:44:30] <chromas> they misheard you and installed monopolies isntead
[07:44:54] <SoyGuest48353> is she turning in her grave?
[07:45:04] <SoyGuest48353> useful dynamo if so
[07:45:12] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, nope, straight rotational kinetic energy.
[07:45:24] <AzumaHazuki> LOL
[07:45:55] <SoyGuest48353> to be fair, we should privatise her first, and then split her up.
[07:46:02] <chromas> I don't know why people rotate in graves but we sure seem to be missing out on a lot of Free Energy™
[07:46:05] <c0lo> SoyGuest48353, not yet, but she'll start if you nationalize the energy sector.
[07:46:42] <SoyGuest48353> that would indeed make her angry, she's be a perpetual emotion machine.
[07:48:22] <SoyGuest48353> just about to start watching a documentary series by JK Galbraith from 1977. Apparently it made Thatcher extremely angry!
[07:49:04] <SoyGuest48353> =yt age of uncertainty galbraith
[07:49:04] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Age of Uncertainty Episode 1 - The Prophets and Promise of Classical Capitalism (56:13; 92,627 views; 👍669 👎23)
[07:49:49] <SoyGuest48353> Apparently, the US had to send over Friedman to comfort her, and ensure she stuck to the plan.
[07:59:45] <chromas> What's the command that shows all the open files of a process?
[07:59:50] <chromas> ps something?
[08:00:38] <boru> Haven't you seen the documentary film about nationalising the energy sector in the UK? It was called Threads.
[08:01:34] <boru> Starts out with some young chaps in Sheffield having a pint, ends up with cannibalism after a nuclear firestorm.
[08:01:40] <SoyGuest48353> chromas: it's under /proc/<PID>/fds
[08:01:54] <chromas> oh yeah
[08:02:02] <boru> Or use lsof.
[08:02:06] <chromas> forgot about /proc
[08:02:10] <SoyGuest48353> boru: we downloaded that to watch a couple of years ago, and haven't got round to watching it yet
[08:02:13] <chromas> I know they've been working to remove stuff from it
[08:02:20] <boru> Still looking for your mystery process?
[08:02:27] <c0lo> https://www.aljazeera.com
[08:02:28] <systemd> ^ 03Saudi oil giant Aramco’s profits plunge nearly 45% amid pandemic
[08:02:42] <chromas> nah, looking for config file for ONVIFViewer, which shows the cameras on the lan
[08:02:42] <boru> FP; you'll need subtitles at the beginning. Sheffield accent.
[08:02:52] <boru> Ah, right.
[08:03:12] <chromas> but it doesn't tell me what the url is to get the feed
[08:03:46] <boru> Run `strings` on the binary? Or run a packet sniffer when you start the process.
[08:04:20] <boru> If it's TLS, then there's a few more steps.
[08:05:04] <chromas> Good idea. The problem with framework libraries is all the trillions of files open at all times
[08:05:08] <boru> I would suspect it's got some IGMP group for the cameras, or some such.
[08:05:31] <boru> Yeah, sounds pretty barf.
[08:13:03] <chromas> turns out it was faster to go to the gitlab page for the program and discover a bug report mentioning the config file
[08:13:35] <chromas> and there's no goodies in there :(
[08:13:49] <SoyGuest48353> so the bug tracker is the documentation, eh?
[08:15:17] <chromas> yessir
[08:16:18] <chromas> well that didn't go anywhere
[08:16:31] * chromas looks for another project to dick with for a bit before giving up
[08:20:50] * c0lo thinks that the chromas' choice is better than another dick to project with before giving up
[08:21:18] <chromas> then I'm gonna give you up, then I'm gonna let you down, then I'm gonna run around and desert you
[08:22:17] <c0lo> chromas, it's a bit early for playing an April Fool.
[08:24:19] <chromas> oh I know, I always have to manually chmod the opendkim socket because the setting in its config file doesn't do nuthin'
[08:24:21] * c0lo totally not looking for the time chromas gonna tell everyone he's pregnant as an April Fool joke
[08:28:42] * Runaway1956 looks at chromas and c0lo remembering all the times he found them alone together in strange places
[08:29:20] <Runaway1956> I never believed that it took two people to sweep the dust bunnied from beneath the server
[08:29:57] <chromas> Looking forward to that fanfiction in your jornal
[08:30:11] * chromas drops this u, much like umask values are dropped
[08:31:28] * Runaway1956 thinks of umount
[08:32:14] <Runaway1956> later - need a couple hours sleep
[08:33:14] <chromas> Yeah, you know those unix guys saved a lot of typing by dropping just that one "n"
[08:33:42] <SoyGuest48353> and the creat syscall
[08:34:50] <chromas> Maybe that's how Final Fantasy 7 names came to be
[08:35:00] <chromas> durn unix beards
[08:38:30] <c0lo> Runaway1956, rest assurd, I'm not gonna sleep with you no matter how gorgeus your server's dust bunnies may be. You're ugly and old.
[08:39:05] <c0lo> s/assur/assure/
[08:39:05] <SedBot> <c0lo> Runaway1956, rest assured, I'm not gonna sleep with you no matter how gorgeus your server's dust bunnies may be. You're ugly and old.
[08:39:35] <chromas> Poor bunns
[08:56:10] <AzumaHazuki> lolwut
[09:03:47] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, it's the result of your actions you're missing the context. Go read the logs.
[09:04:05] <AzumaHazuki> eh, it can't be that interesting...
[09:04:59] <c0lo> Then 'lol' and drop the 'wut' (grin)
[09:17:11] <SoyGuest48353> sometimes you can be 100% sure you saw things correctly, and still want to say "wut?!?!"
[09:24:47] <c0lo> SoyGuest48353... ummm... wut?!?!
[09:25:11] <c0lo> Y?
[09:48:49] <SoyGuest48353> lol
[09:56:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chip-Starved Automakers Shudder at Renesas Plant's 1-Month Halt - https://sylnt.us
[09:59:36] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[09:59:38] <systemd> ^ 03Casually Explained: Dangerous Australian Wildlife Tier List
[10:17:33] <Ingar> Monday morning makes me feel like Runaway1956
[10:48:04] <c0lo> Ingar, you mean feeling like an asshole?
[12:37:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CentOS Vs CentOS Stream - https://sylnt.us
[14:07:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New York Lawmaker Wants to Ban Police Use of Armed Robots - https://sylnt.us - twenty-seconds-to-comply
[14:29:38] <c0lo> =submit https://www.dw.com
[14:29:41] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03BioNTech Founders Receive One of Germany's Highest Honors" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:58:07] <Runaway1956> #tell Bytram please look here https://soylentnews.org
[14:58:07] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[15:06:16] <Bytram> Only had a few moments to glance at it -- am late to head out the door atm. Will look closer later. In the meantime, I'd suggest trying to take the high road, stay with the facts and discuss *those* -- avoid ay discussion of the other *person*. Be aware you are discussing things in a public forum and consider what other people SEE when you two go at it like 5-year-olds. Take the high road. "Just the facts, ma'am." "Say something in
[15:06:16] <Bytram> anger and you'll make the best speech you'll ever regret."
[15:06:57] <Bytram> really gtg; laters.
[15:07:10] <Runaway1956> later
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[16:35:35] <Runaway1956> #smake FatPhil
[16:35:35] * MrPlow smakes FatPhil upside the head with a creampie
[16:52:03] <SoyGuest48353> Did you like my poem?
[17:24:46] <Ingar> c0lo: an old asshole
[17:25:10] <Ingar> man, had speech today from the CEO from the company that bought ours
[17:25:17] <Ingar> they really have no clue about software
[17:36:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Legal Questions Linger as Governments and Companies Keep Pushing Into Space - https://sylnt.us
[17:47:38] <SoyGuest48353> #weather Tallinn
[17:47:40] <MrPlow> Raekoja plats 9, Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Clear throughout the day." 34/25F, Humidity: 67%, Precip: 6%, Wind ~12mph. Tue: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 41/33F, Humidity: 75%, Precip: 12%, Wind ~9mph. Wed: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 42/34F, Humidity: 75%, Precip: 8%, Wind ~14mph.
[18:23:23] <Runaway1956> This one for TheMightyBuzzard
[18:23:28] <Runaway1956> https://kutv.com
[18:23:29] <systemd> ^ 034 cougars spotted on home surveillance camera near basement door
[18:39:04] <Runaway1956> Turns out Methodists are Democrats
[18:39:12] <Runaway1956> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
[18:39:12] <systemd> ^ 03United Methodist Church Promotes Hateful Propaganda Alleging Trump Supporters are KKK, Confederate-Supporting Racists
[19:37:55] <chromas> Democrats accusing other people of being democrats? Sounds like the ol' slapfite
[19:37:57] <chromas> #socialist
[19:37:58] <MrPlow> Has half of a libertarian debate. #socialist <nick>
[19:38:05] <chromas> #socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[19:38:05] <MrPlow> TheMightyBuzzard, you're a socialist!
[19:39:00] <chromas> and https://local.theonion.com
[19:39:02] <systemd> ^ 03Two Hipsters Angrily Call Each Other 'Hipster'
[20:00:53] <SoyGuest48353> #socialite chromas
[20:01:13] <SoyGuest48353> I was hoping it would say "Let me introduce to to Ghislaine, chromas"
[20:01:43] <chromas> Nah, she was disappeared right after her 4chan post
[20:07:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - LOL Garamond Sux, Say Federal Judges - https://sylnt.us - smaller-is-not-better
[21:21:13] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[22:00:23] <SoyGuest48353> you'll get in troubles for posting content like that
[22:31:17] <c0lo> All deep fakes
[22:38:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Finally Explains its Mysterious New Wrist Wearable - https://sylnt.us - all-in-the-wrists
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[23:20:13] <Ethanol-fueled> False SPAM mod.
[23:20:16] <Ethanol-fueled> https://soylentnews.org
[23:20:17] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | LOL Garamond Sux, Say Federal Judges
[23:21:13] <Bytram> Ethanol-fueled: Hey! How ya doin? Haven't seen you here in a while~
[23:21:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Howya doin'?
[23:21:53] <SoyGuest48353> Agree. Flamebait/Troll/whatever, but not spam unless you;ve finally resorted to copy-pasting your rants.
[23:21:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Guess I shouldn't beg for a spam unmod.
[23:21:58] <Bytram> oh, c'mon... I asked you first! ;)
[23:22:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Just try to fight it myself.
[23:22:53] SoyGuest48353 is now known as FatPhil
[23:23:08] <Bytram> I have limited spare time atm... if you can point me directly to the comment, that would help a lot
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[23:23:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck off, shitbags.
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[23:24:16] <requerdanos> odd.
[23:24:28] <Bytram> Well!
[23:25:10] <Bytram> I was genuinely wiling to look into it, but also pressed for time.
[23:25:19] <chromas> Cistern!
[23:25:26] <Bytram> I guess it wasn't that important?
[23:25:47] <Bytram> Transtern?
[23:26:10] * Bytram made a very bad chemistry joke
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[23:38:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, sorted. ef comment unspammed but no modban. on account of i'm too tired and cranky to trust the quality of my judgment this evening. when in doubt, i prefer to err on the side of forgiveness.
[23:40:29] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: got it. thank you for looking into it and sorting it out. Hope the rest of your day is de-crankified!
[23:40:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> just didn't have time for a nap today. should sleep good tonight at least.
[23:41:02] <Bytram> I concur with your outlook
[23:41:12] <Bytram> naps++
[23:41:12] <Bender> karma - naps: 125
[23:42:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll go kick one of TR's kids before i get on dinner cleanup. child abuse always cheers me up.
[23:42:13] <Bytram> (Giving folk the benefit of doubt, that is.)
[23:43:06] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I trust that was entirely insincere?
[23:43:32] <Bytram> =G POE'S LAW
[23:43:33] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Poe's law - Wikipedia
[23:54:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, eh, somewhat. nuisance kick not injury kick. being annoyed regularly builds character.
[23:55:12] <Bytram> lol
[23:55:17] <Bytram> phone
[23:55:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i'm back out as well