#soylent | Logs for 2021-03-20
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[00:10:44] <FatPhil> =submit https://nypost.com
[00:10:46] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NYC Man Sells Fart for $85, Cashing in on NFT Craze" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:15:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Photographer Spends 12 Years, 1250 Hours, Exposing Photo of Milky Way - https://sylnt.us - big-sky-picture
[00:27:44] <c0lo> Hey, look, don can actually acr somehow responsible https://apnews.com
[00:27:44] <systemd> ^ 03Trump's Mar-a-Lago partially closed due to COVID outbreak
[00:28:02] <c0lo> s/acr/act/
[00:28:02] <SedBot> <c0lo> Hey, look, don can actually act somehow responsible https://apnews.com
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[03:53:05] <Runaway1956> Hah! Italy doesn't get all the fun!
[03:53:13] <Runaway1956> =submit https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com
[03:53:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Icelandic Volcano Erupts, Lighting Up Night Sky Near Reykjavik - Times of India" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:54:33] <Runaway1956> submit https://www.linuxlinks.com
[03:54:34] <systemd> ^ 03Endlessh - SSH tarpit - LinuxLinks
[04:10:16] <c0lo> =submit https://www.politico.com
[04:10:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Same Old Joe: Rebuffing Staff Who Smoked Pot Fits Biden’s MO" (23p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:06:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cricut Backs Down, Will Continue to Give Users Unlimited Use of Their Cutting Machines - https://sylnt.us - plans-met-a-Short-Cricut
[05:45:55] <chromas> from the who? dept.
[05:54:30] <chromas> just need a way to turn an ssh tarpit into a decompression bomb at the same time
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[06:59:01] <chromas> import burrito;
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[07:18:45] <Runaway1956> upstart subbed a WSJ article - same article available here
[07:18:57] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.morningstar.com
[07:19:01] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scientists Say They Found Cause of Rare Blood Clotting Linked to AstraZeneca Vaccine" (54p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:19:08] <Runaway1956> No paywall
[07:19:52] <Runaway1956> Or, maybe I should say that there is no apparent paywall from my computer - it's possible there is a monthly limit that I've not bumped against
[07:35:10] <chromas> I don't get sound after connecting the subwoofer in my laptop using hdajackretask
[07:35:20] <chromas> ya know, puleaudio never gave me this issue
[07:35:51] * chromas blames Subsentient
[07:36:31] <Runaway1956> Jack don't do shit on my machine
[07:36:48] <Runaway1956> after every reboot, I have to screw around to get my HDMI speakers working
[07:37:01] <chromas> it's an alsa tool. intel hd audio codecs let you change what your sound jacks do
[07:37:17] <chromas> you can have all mics if you want
[07:37:40] <Runaway1956> Yes, but Jack doesn't persist even after I did the persistence thing for it
[07:38:11] <chromas> do you have the pulseaudio?
[07:38:29] <chromas> you can put a string in the config file to map out the sound channels
[07:38:35] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I have ALSA and pulse installed - but they are freaking confusing
[07:38:48] <chromas> maybe we can trade. my hdmi's always working even though I don't use it. sometimes it's even the default sound output
[07:39:28] <chromas> I can just barely hear sound from the tv, even though the volume is 0
[07:39:29] <Runaway1956> "sometimes" - yeah, I notice that too - "sometimes" my default works, and "sometimes" something else works
[07:39:42] <chromas> but if I raise it then lower it, then it's even zeroier and is quieter
[07:40:26] <Runaway1956> HDMI volume is consistent, but I get issues with my USB speaker volume
[07:40:28] <chromas> you need the kde. its phonon system solves all
[07:41:06] <Runaway1956> OSS solved everything - years ago - then everyone dropped it
[07:41:17] <chromas> loicensing issues
[07:41:47] <chromas> alsa was fine too except nobody enabled the software mixer by default so everyone had to come up with their own sound daemon to do it
[08:47:33] <kyonko> OSS is hard to use
[08:47:48] <kyonko> it's actually a college course
[08:47:50] <Ingar> in 1996 my soundblaster did hardware mixing
[08:48:21] <Ingar> I never understood this thing about audio daemons
[08:48:34] <Ingar> (forgto about esd, did you?)
[08:48:37] <Ingar> *forgot
[08:48:38] <kyonko> I've been up for days on freebsd console
[08:49:09] <kyonko> it seem web mails have a pop client gateway
[08:49:59] <kyonko> openbsd is that one OS without audio
[08:50:43] <Ingar> I'm not into into BSDM
[08:51:02] <kyonko> the console is very much BSDM
[08:51:16] <kyonko> but you can play audio
[08:58:28] <kyonko> on boot time I hear the speaker pop
[08:59:34] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[08:59:37] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scientist Behind Coronavirus Shot Says Next Target is Cancer" (25p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:00:41] <c0lo> =submit https://www.fda.gov
[09:00:43] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Authorizes First Machine Learning-Based Screening Device to Ident" (8p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:01:49] <c0lo> =submit https://www.techdirt.com
[09:01:51] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03AT&T Whines That California Net Neutrality Rules are Forcing It to Behave;" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:02:09] <c0lo> =submit https://www.cnbc.com
[09:02:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Mozilla Leads Push for FCC to Reinstate Net Neutrality" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:02:12] <kyonko> I see a little checkmark on console
[09:02:19] <kyonko> what is that?
[09:02:25] <kyonko> utf8?
[09:03:01] <c0lo> =submit https://reneweconomy.com.au
[09:03:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New Report Finds Investing in Renewable Energy is Far Better Bet Than Fossil Fuels" (29p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:03:23] <c0lo> =submit https://www.offshorewind.biz
[09:03:25] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Offshore Wind Could Meet Nearly All of US 2050 Electricity Demand - Report" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:28:46] <c0lo> =submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[09:28:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Computer Giant Acer Hit by $50 Million Ransomware Attack" (23p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:34:43] <c0lo> =submit $1 billion in education loans being canceled for 72,000 borrowers https://apnews.com
[09:34:45] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Students Who Got Partial Loan Relief to See Full Discharge" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:57:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Have Figured Out a Way to Stop People from Sharing Misinformation - https://sylnt.us - do-you-REALLY-believe-THAT?
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[12:09:36] <FatPhil> ANyone remember the "you appear to have found a solution to the problem of spam. Here's why it won't work:" pro-forma from 2-3 decades back?
[12:14:19] <AzumaHazuki> yes
[12:14:43] <Bytram> FatPhil: Sure, it was frequently posted to the green site, but IIRC, it was not just applicable to spam. More along the lines "You have proposed a technical solution to a social(/) problem"
[12:15:11] <Bytram> s#/@#?#
[12:15:23] <FatPhil> I'm wondering whether somebody needs to rewrite that for fake news sharing.
[12:15:54] <Bytram> Maybe somebody already has? Have you looked yet?
[12:16:24] <FatPhil> I've not.
[12:16:50] <FatPhil> you shouldn't need to look for that - it should be posted instantaniously every time the topic comes up!
[12:17:09] <FatPhil> Ah, found one: http://theanna.org
[12:17:23] <FatPhil> That's not a 100% match to the one I remember, but is close enough.
[12:17:28] <FatPhil> I presume they evolve.
[12:18:28] <FatPhil> s/dk/ck/
[12:18:35] <Bytram> nod nod; considering its popularity and the opportunity for copy/paste errors as well as people
[12:18:53] <Bytram> choosing to extend/embellish it
[12:19:03] <FatPhil> put your own personal touches
[12:19:43] <Bytram> 'zactly
[12:20:19] <FatPhil> which *you* think is absolutely hilarious, even if it's not actually the case to the rest of the world.
[12:22:28] <FatPhil> I helped Professor Caldwell at UTM create his "you might be a mathematical crank if..." checklist (which was heavily based on John Baez's "You might be a science crank if..." checklist). Fun times.
[12:25:26] <janrinok> Hi guys - just passing by briefly and thought I would say 'hello'
[12:25:55] <Bytram> janrinok: !!
[12:26:03] <janrinok> AzumaHazuki, FatPhil, Bytram : hello!
[12:26:23] <Bytram> heard about the new lockdown, so hope it helps and is not too much of a hassle!
[12:26:25] <janrinok> bytram!!!
[12:27:03] <janrinok> doesn't affect me - only the NE and SE of France - the rest of us understand the need to wear masks and keep to social distancing...
[12:27:21] <FatPhil> Search engines don't find one
[12:27:32] <Bytram> got my covid-19 jab yesterday (J&J) but got no docs with it so need to look it up as to effectiveness over time, etc
[12:27:34] <FatPhil> I think we'll work on that this weekend
[12:27:45] <FatPhil> ~gday janrinok
[12:27:49] <janrinok> however, thanks to the escapees from Paris, they have brought Covid to our region - bastards!
[12:28:04] <Bytram> grrrr
[12:28:28] <Bytram> carry a paint-ball gun and mark 'em as a warning to others?
[12:28:38] <janrinok> they didn't like the idea of a lockdown so have come to their holiday homes to spoil our fun
[12:29:06] <Bytram> with license plates that clearly mark 'em, of course
[12:29:19] <janrinok> they identify themselves - they walk into shops without putting a mask on and wonder why everybody tells them to get out or mask up!
[12:29:25] <FatPhil> One of our clients is a researcher in the field, we might even make a proper job of it together, rather than just a throwaway joke.
[12:29:56] <Bytram> when in Rome...
[12:29:57] <FatPhil> janrinok: ugh - our enemy was tourists too for many months.
[12:30:03] <FatPhil> bloody annoying
[12:30:33] <FatPhil> However, we're still #1 in the world, so it's the tourists who are taking our covids back with them now
[12:30:55] <janrinok> FatPhil, yep - I recall you talking about Chinese tourists if I remember correctly
[12:32:01] <FatPhil> historically we'd have boatloads of them. they faded out quite quickly last year. Spain and Italy were our toxic invaders most of last year.
[12:32:04] <Bytram> Russian, I thought
[12:32:29] <janrinok> I don't think the Russians are tourists, more like an advance recce party
[12:32:30] <FatPhil> End of they year it was mostly Russia, as Spain and Italy had started to get their act together too.
[12:33:04] <Bytram> FatPhil: thot I'd seen you mention them a time or two
[12:33:41] <Bytram> janrinok: how are you set for supplies?
[12:33:42] <FatPhil> Large chunks of our population have relatives in russia, so that border's always active. The densest toxic hotspots in the country are in the russian-speaking slums!
[12:35:04] <janrinok> pretty much the same for most of the former USSR satellite countries I imagine - certainly for Kazakhstan and others that I still have contacts in.
[12:35:11] <Bytram> makes sense. people of limited means tend to live in closer quarters that increase probability of transmission
[12:35:48] <FatPhil> or they're ignorant fucks.
[12:36:16] * Bytram is grateful he does not find himself in those circumstances -- have been able to afford to live alone
[12:36:23] <janrinok> well, you did say they were the 'densest'. That works for both meanings of the word.
[12:37:15] <Bytram> solid?
[12:37:32] <FatPhil> Yeah, there's probably a strong correlation with foetal alcohol syndrome. These aren't our brightest.
[12:38:17] <janrinok> 20 years since I've been there but I'm not surprised that they haven't changed much.
[12:38:30] <Bytram> if so, there's nothing they could have done about it except try to live with it as best they could
[12:38:57] <FatPhil> One of our local comedy programs got in a lot of trouble for making a short spoof documentary skit about the new species of hominid that lives in that part of town.
[12:39:17] <janrinok> lol - they wouldn't like that!
[12:39:41] <FatPhil> It was considered a bit racist. However, it was in Estonian, so most of the target of the humour wouldn't have understood it!
[12:40:16] <Bytram> key word: most
[12:40:40] <janrinok> well if they do not try to integrate - including trying to speak the appropriate language - then they deserve all that they get IMO
[12:41:45] <Bytram> my city has a huge immigrant population. some assume that nobody understands them when they use speakerphone. I know a few words in several languages...
[12:42:16] <FatPhil> absolutely - I used to work at a localish company with some really bright young tech types, and well over half of them were russian speakers, they had real drive and a desire to learn. Gave me faith in future generations.
[12:42:35] <FatPhil> Bytram: oooh - what languages do you hear?
[12:43:00] <Bytram> I can occasionally recognize the nationality. Greet 'em with a cheerful "Hi". Interesting reactions.
[12:43:07] <janrinok> S and I stood behind a couple in Gibraltar speaking Russian who thought that nobody would understand them. They were being quite rude about the locals. They were a bit shocked when we wished them a good day in their mother tongue :)
[12:43:17] <FatPhil> It's always funny when you laugh at a joke that you hear from another table.
[12:43:30] <Bytram> janrinok++ specebo!
[12:43:30] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 72
[12:43:53] <janrinok> yep - opportunities like that should never be missed
[12:44:03] <Bytram> FatPhil: I an say thank-you in at least 20 languages, all picked up from locals
[12:44:17] <Bytram> =)
[12:44:18] <FatPhil> I do like greeting Arabic speakers in Arabic. They rarely expect that.
[12:44:41] <Bytram> salaam alla kom
[12:44:48] <janrinok> especially in Estonia I imagine!
[12:45:44] <Bytram> shuchran, afwan, ma salaam, ha bibi
[12:46:01] <Bytram> that last word always gets a laugh!
[12:46:08] <FatPhil> Saying thank you and goodbye to a market trader in Lithuanian while I was in the densest Russian-speaking part of Estonia put a real smile on the trader's face.
[12:46:20] <FatPhil> don't confuse 'habibi' with 'hamami'.
[12:46:31] <Bytram> (please pardon my atrocious spelling)
[12:46:54] <janrinok> it means a lot when you at least try to speak somebody's language - even if, like me here in France, you are probably murdering it!
[12:47:11] <Bytram> wouldn't have thought of it until you mentioned the new word to me
[12:47:26] <Bytram> mare sea!
[12:47:36] <FatPhil> I'm sick of 'habibi', as a local algerian restaurant we used to go to had a very limited playlist of its piped music, and "habibi" was about 50% of the lyrics of one of the songs.
[12:48:15] <Bytram> buy 'em some new music to play?
[12:48:40] <Bytram> If you are tired of it, I am sure they are, too!
[12:48:58] * Bytram has all too much experience with christmas music
[12:49:30] <FatPhil> I did desperately try to find "Abu Jusef", but failed. I don't think they would have considered that high enough culture.
[12:49:56] <Bytram> (that went over my head)
[12:50:35] <janrinok> well it was at least that high then
[12:51:12] <Bytram> =g "Abu Jusef"
[12:51:13] <systemd> http://users.stlcc.edu - Abila of the Decapolis - Crews
[12:51:22] <Bytram> nope
[12:51:43] <Bytram> =g "Abu Jusef" dong
[12:51:44] <systemd> [0 results]
[12:51:46] <Bytram> =g "Abu Jusef" song
[12:51:47] <systemd> [0 results]
[12:52:04] <Bytram> prolly spelled it wrong
[12:52:13] <janrinok> if you had got a result for Abu Jusef dong I would love to see what it said....
[12:54:49] * Bytram is not so curious
[12:55:10] <janrinok> you can never tell what you will find with Google
[12:55:58] <Bytram> !grab janrinok
[12:55:58] <Bender> Added quote 1033
[12:56:19] <Bytram> so true on so many levels!
[12:56:23] <janrinok> lol
[12:56:30] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[12:56:33] <systemd> ^ 03Abu Yousef Song
[12:56:48] <FatPhil> Needed to add "lebanese" to the search
[12:57:09] <janrinok> I've been avoiding doing what I should be doing by chatting on here, but I must go and do what I must! Have a good one, everybody!
[12:57:28] <FatPhil> yup, market closes in an hour - need to do a shop of exotic stuff
[12:57:44] <FatPhil> lebanese stuffed figs - omnomnom
[12:58:06] <FatPhil> chorizo-marinaded olives - omnomnom
[12:58:20] <Bytram> janrinok: great chatting with you!
[12:58:23] <janrinok> your chores are more pleasant than my own - I have to phone the hospital to check on S'es progress
[12:58:47] <janrinok> Bytram, take care and I enjoyed just being 'normal' again
[12:58:55] <Bytram> YAY!
[12:59:17] <Bytram> so glad we could!
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[13:50:53] <Bytram> .op
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[14:10:19] <Bytram> chromas++ TYVM!
[14:10:19] <Bender> karma - chromas: 344
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[14:18:19] <Aphrodite> Burrrp
[14:20:22] <AzumaHazuki> lovely
[14:22:39] <Aphrodite> btw the server's going down an hour ago
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[14:47:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM Built an AI Capable of Holding Its Own Against Humans in a Debate - https://sylnt.us
[14:47:46] <AzumaHazuki> got the new pixel 4a all set up and secured :) LineageOS 18.1, encryption, no gapps or google services, and my little collection of SPC rips ported over
[14:48:01] <AzumaHazuki> it's a nice phone. i think we'll get on well for several years
[14:52:16] <SoyGuest48353> I'd like to have a play with a phone for a few days to decide if it's right for me. Most of the stuff I do are the same things over and over again, so I'd work out pretty quick if it was a pass or a fail.
[14:52:54] <SoyGuest48353> I do more greps over text files than any other action!
[14:53:24] <AzumaHazuki> this is going to be my mp3 player, web browser, and pdf reader when on the move
[15:21:42] <chromas> I've never had encryption do anything on Android
[15:25:41] * SoyGuest48353 reads about UFS... "It was designed to .. while reducing market confusion and removing the need for different adapters for different types of card."
[15:25:56] <SoyGuest48353> It literally couldn't be more https://xkcd.com
[15:25:57] <systemd> ^ 03Standards
[15:26:50] <chromas> Never heard of it
[15:27:08] <chromas> Dunno why we need a new card when everything in the world uses tf/sd cards
[15:27:22] <chromas> and occasionally compactflash for some reason
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[15:43:08] <SoyGuest48353> you're not saying it's introduced market confusion, are you!?!?
[15:43:23] <SoyGuest48353> Is anyone else triggered by this image: https://cdn2.vectorstock.com
[15:50:31] <SoyGuest48353> hmmm, g/f's phone died today... we're running out of spares...
[16:01:44] <chromas> triggered because only one vibrates?
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[16:53:17] <SoyGuest48353> it was the "interlocking" that ground my gears
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[18:17:48] <chromas> 5d interlocks
[19:18:14] <SoyGuest48353> that's the olympic rings, isn't it?
[19:18:18] <SoyGuest48353> 4d is Audi
[19:22:08] <chromas> you mean, the Audi Os?
[19:25:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Over-Valued Fossil Fuel Assets Creating Trillion-Dollar Bubble About to Burst - https://sylnt.us
[19:42:28] <chromas> Does that mean we'll get paid to fuel up?
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[20:21:06] <Teckla> That's better. :)
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[21:51:57] <SoyGuest48353> n.w. /Wrong Turn/ (2021) - a "hicksploitation" horror.
[21:52:11] <SoyGuest48353> So utterly, utterly, utterly, utterly terrible.
[21:52:12] <chromas> yeeehawww
[21:52:25] <SoyGuest48353> But I felt I had to watch it to the end
[21:52:36] <SoyGuest48353> And that was the correct decision.
[21:53:48] <SoyGuest48353> g/f was drinking on "horror tropes" and I was drinking on "protagonists deserve to die".
[21:54:06] <SoyGuest48353> There was a lot of drinking.
[21:54:27] <SoyGuest48353> Have you seen it? Just "yeeehawww" doesn't prove that.
[21:54:36] <chromas> How many jumpscares?
[21:54:38] <chromas> I have not.
[21:55:00] <chromas> I was yeeehawwwing about the hicksploitation bit
[21:55:26] <chromas> like deliverance or joe dirt
[21:55:52] <SoyGuest48353> To my jaded internal combustion engine, there were no jumpscares
[21:56:08] <SoyGuest48353> still not seen deliverance - it's in the queue
[21:56:29] <SoyGuest48353> Fux - looks like it was a reboot of a prior franchise
[21:57:06] <chromas> Now you have to watch the entire sin-o-matic universe
[21:57:49] <SoyGuest48353> It was honestly a solid 3/10 movie, until the very end. and then I gave it an extra point.
[21:59:13] <SoyGuest48353> If I was the pissing myself out loud kind of person, I would have pissed myself out loud. Definitely worth an extra point.
[21:59:34] <SoyGuest48353> *and I don't even know how to do that*
[22:00:04] <chromas> I've seen some videos
[22:00:10] <chromas> tutorials, you might call them
[22:00:16] <SoyGuest48353> documentaries?
[22:00:59] <chromas> very edubational
[22:02:33] <SoyGuest48353> Yeah, anyway, if you are retarded enough to start watching https://www.imdb.com - and you make it beyond 10 minutes, at least watch it to the very end, for the final +1
[22:02:34] <systemd> ^ 03Wrong Turn (2021) - IMDb
[22:03:05] <SoyGuest48353> if you quit before 10 minutes, you did the right thing.
[22:04:54] <chromas> Really, I didn't know people even still watched movies
[22:05:19] <chromas> I thought it was all Pitch Meetings, RLM and the Critical Drinker now
[22:05:33] <SoyGuest48353> how else am i doing to drink beer, unless there were protagonists that need to die?
[22:06:04] <chromas> oh yeah
[22:06:15] <SoyGuest48353> beer's difficult, m'kay
[22:06:17] <chromas> do you have all the recent sony movies in queue?
[22:06:47] <SoyGuest48353> I may *look* stupid, but I do have a filter that protects me from such horrors.
[22:07:00] <SoyGuest48353> When if comes to movies, I prefer horrors.
[22:07:05] <SoyGuest48353> s/if/it/
[22:07:05] <SedBot> <SoyGuest48353> When it comes to movies, I prefer horrors.
[22:09:42] <SoyGuest48353> Oh, I was wrong
[22:09:45] <SoyGuest48353> https://www.imdb.com
[22:09:46] <systemd> ^ 03Wrong Turn (2021) - IMDb
[22:09:53] <SoyGuest48353> it was the perfect movie.
[22:09:57] <SoyGuest48353> Aaaaaaaaaaaa-men!
[22:20:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> SoyGuest48353, try https://www.imdb.com
[22:20:51] <systemd> ^ 03Tucker and Dale vs Evil (2010) - IMDb
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[23:25:14] <Bytram> http://rss.cnn.com
[23:25:17] <systemd> ^ 03Sign at Texas restaurant threatens a $50 fee 'If I have to explain why masks are mandatory' ( https://www.cnn.com )
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