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[00:44:25] <Runaway1956> Ioannidis is a subversive, and FatPhil is pushing subversive publications
[01:00:42] <FatPhil> plos kinda was subversive once.
[01:01:28] <FatPhil> but stanford is hardly anti-establishment, and he's stanford, isn't he?
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[01:03:26] <FatPhil> didn't plos invent scientometry, because they weren't happy with how the impact of science was being measured?
[01:04:51] <FatPhil> impact factors were already being gamed, so heading towards meaninglessness.
[01:05:39] <FatPhil> i could be making all this up, the memories are dim and dusty.
[01:38:21] <Runaway1956> Good God, the spin machine
[01:38:24] <Bytram> FatPhil: "dim and dusty" -- for some reason that reminded me of playing "Adventure" way way back in the late 1970s -- which is double strange as that phrase appeared nowhere in the game that I can recall!
[01:38:44] <Runaway1956> video on Accuweather says restaurants decided to close for the COVIDs -
[01:38:50] <Bytram> =g sit and spin
[01:38:51] <systemd> https://www.amazon.com - Playskool Sit 'n Spin Classic Spinning Activity Toy for ... - Amazon.com
[01:43:51] <FatPhil> what's so odd? our restaurant just decided to close for the covids.
[01:53:12] <Runaway1956> Few, if any, restaurants "decided" to close - they were shut down by the state and/or the county
[01:53:59] <Runaway1956> A decision to only have 25% or 50% capacity would have been the route that most would have gone
[02:02:32] <FatPhil> yup, we were limited to 25% and to shortened hours, and there were other complications, so the decision was made that it wasn't worth it until things changed.
[02:03:38] <FatPhil> we're right in the middle of a 4th wave here presently, and we got off lightly before, ao there's plenty of room for exponential growth.
[02:04:09] <Runaway1956> Do you serve exponents in your restaurants?
[02:04:53] <FatPhil> we were all smug 9 months ago, but thee govt made some insane decisions 6 months ago, and it's really biting us in the arse now.
[02:05:24] <FatPhil> we serve everyone equally, no matter how powerful they appear.
[02:07:07] <FatPhil> don't for one minute think that govt decisions in the intervening months have been less insane, quite the contrary.
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[02:18:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Remembering Allan McDonald: He Refused to Approve Challenger Launch, Exposed Cover-Up - https://sylnt.us - R.I.P.
[02:22:17] <Runaway1956> I, for one, am very tired of all the meghan and harry headlines -
[02:24:42] <Runaway1956> Little girls are kinky?
[02:24:46] <Runaway1956> https://www.sott.net
[02:24:47] <systemd> ^ 03Ex-Republican Senate candidate Witzke banned from Twitter after calling trans activist 'DEMONIC' for saying 'little girls are also kinky' -- Sott.net
[02:29:16] <chromas> from the james-gunn dept.
[02:29:58] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.digitaltrends.com
[02:30:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03SpaceX Plans to Beam its Starlink Internet to Vehicles" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:32:59] * AzumaHazuki side-eyes a couple of those headlines, wonders what in the holy fuck
[02:33:16] <AzumaHazuki> no, little girls are not kinky. i'm 32 and am barely anything more than plain vanilla. what the fuck.
[02:33:32] <AzumaHazuki> that's enough internet for now @_@ time for work
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[02:35:49] <Bytram> Runaway1956: https://arstechnica.com
[02:35:50] <systemd> ^ 03SpaceX plans Starlink broadband for trucks, ships, and planes [Updated] ( https://arstechnica.com )
[02:36:17] <Bytram> ^^^ "Update 6 pm EST: Although a SpaceX filing said that Starlink terminals could be deployed "on passenger cars," SpaceX CEO Elon Musk indicated on Twitter today that passenger cars are not in the plan. "Not connecting Tesla cars to Starlink, as our terminal is much too big. This is for aircraft, ships, large trucks & RVs," he wrote."
[02:37:28] <Runaway1956> That is enlightening.
[02:38:06] * Runaway1956 makes plans to install it on 5' x 10' trailer so he can connect from the trailblazer
[02:43:58] <Bytram> So, you want to... take it with you? ;)
[02:44:45] <Bytram> and on that (off) note, I'm knackered
[02:44:50] <Runaway1956> Actually, I think it should all be portable. If I have one installed in my home, and decide to go to Tucson for a month,
[02:44:53] <Runaway1956> it should go with me
[02:45:08] <Bytram> the home?
[02:45:26] <Runaway1956> just the sattelite, I think - home is too big to fit on my trailer
[02:45:58] <Bytram> #yawn
[02:46:08] * Bytram yawns
[02:46:08] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into Bytram's gaping mouth
[02:46:32] <Bytram> =gnight everybody
[02:46:32] * systemd emphatically evolves an example of cultural enrichment from everybody
[02:46:37] <Runaway1956> 'night then
[02:49:52] <Runaway1956> Biden chased from white house for biting security personnel
[02:49:56] <Runaway1956> https://www.rawstory.com
[02:49:57] <systemd> ^ 03Major, bad dog: Biden's German Shepherds sent back to Delaware
[02:52:52] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.thedrive.com 20 ft seas are NOT "extreme"
[02:52:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Debate Over Navy's Zumwalt Destroyer's Seakeeping Abilities Doused After Rough Seas Tests" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[03:28:26] <c0lo> RNC - abused housewife. Nobody loves them if not for Trump and now Trump takes their money too https://apnews.com
[03:28:27] <systemd> ^ 03Trump, RNC clash over using his name in fundraising
[03:29:02] <c0lo> And no, it's not just metaphor https://thehill.com
[03:29:03] <systemd> ^ 03Trump vows 'No more money for RINOS' instead encouraging donations to his PAC
[04:25:10] <Ellenor> neep noop
[04:47:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wait, What? MIPS Becomes RISC-V - https://sylnt.us - Meaningless-Indicator-of-Processor-Speed
[04:50:05] <Ellenor> LunatiX
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[07:15:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "User Engagement" is Code for "Addiction" - https://sylnt.us
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[08:23:34] <c0lo> =submit post-f35-world https://www.unilad.co.uk
[08:23:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03World’s First Supersonic Unmanned Combat Drone Reaches Speeds of Over 1,500mph" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:30:36] <c0lo> =submit https://www.eia.gov
[08:31:50] <c0lo> #submit https://www.eia.gov
[08:31:51] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[08:32:16] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[08:32:40] <c0lo> ^^^ "The United States installed more wind turbine capacity in 2020 than in any other year"
[08:33:40] <c0lo> "Iowa and Kansas... wind surpassed coal as the state’s top electricity generation source in 2019."
[08:35:34] <c0lo> =submit https://pv-magazine-usa.com
[08:35:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pv Magazine USA" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:40:38] <c0lo> =submit you-gotta-be-kiddin https://www.aljazeera.com
[08:40:41] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Warren and Fellow Progressives Propose ‘Ultra-Millionaire’ Tax" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:43:09] <c0lo> =submit https://theintercept.com
[08:43:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Entire Staff of Nevada Democratic Party Quits After Democratic Socialist Slate Won Every Seat" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:19:45] <FatPhil> dood, you're turning all runaway - US political infighting is little more than soap opera for 95% of the world.
[09:26:41] <FatPhil> Erm, if you quit, why would you get a "severance check"? You've not been severed, you quit. If there was reciprocity, you'd be paying the employer for messing *them* around.
[09:47:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facial Recognition Can Expose Political Orientation - https://sylnt.us - seeing-is-perceiving
[09:49:48] <c0lo> FatPhil, thanks for the feedback. Yes, I feel that the doom scrolling slided into something morbid.
[09:51:33] <c0lo> I also feel fascinating to see a society breaking itself apart, and I'm curious if they'll manage to reconsitute themselves while breaking or if they'll remain broken.
[10:24:34] <FatPhil> I dunno, but if you've got tinnies or stubbies, I've got marshmallows.
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[10:27:58] <FatPhil> What with all the Harry/Megan bullshit non-news, I reckon that royal families should mutate like viruses. Different regions should be able to adopt different branches. Canada can have Harry on their $20, for example.
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[10:28:46] <FatPhil> I feel a bullshit pseudo-academic paper coming on /A Cladistic Approach to Aristocracy/
[10:42:43] <c0lo> Royals and royalties are both soap opera for me.
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[11:20:49] <FatPhil> Bread, circusses, and People Magazine stories.
[11:25:24] <c0lo> While this seems to be the sign of the times https://abcnews.go.com
[11:25:24] <systemd> ^ 03Texas service workers demand vaccine access, protest end to mask order
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[12:16:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 100Mbps Uploads and Downloads Should be US Broadband Standard, Senators Say - https://sylnt.us - what-we-have-here-is-a-failure-to-communicate
[12:18:53] <Ingar> interesting, local authorities held a large raid on local drugsdealers, claim they hacked the Sky ECC secure messaging service
[12:19:17] <Ingar> but I can find no english src for the latter, not even in the english translation of the original dutch article
[12:19:29] <Ingar> and the sky ecc website is down :D
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[12:31:09] <c0lo> for the francophone who like chocolate, Ingar, https://www.rtbf.be
[12:31:12] <systemd> ^ 03Qu'est-ce que SKY ECC, le réseau de communications infiltré par la police ?
[12:31:29] <c0lo> s/phone/phones/
[12:31:29] <SedBot> <c0lo> for the francophones who like chocolate, Ingar, https://www.rtbf.be
[12:33:39] <c0lo> Otherwise, in netherlanguage, with lotsa R-s, https://tweakers.net
[12:33:41] <systemd> ^ 03'Belgische en Nederlandse politie hebben cryptotelefoondienst Sky ECC gekraakt'
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[12:35:29] <Ingar> c0lo: can't really submet a french story nwo can I :p
[12:35:37] <Ingar> *submit a french story
[12:36:43] <Ingar> in any case, criminals using Sky ECC, beware :D
[12:42:16] <c0lo> But that's not French, it's Belgian. Because it's Tuesday!
[12:42:52] <Ingar> Walloon, to be exact
[12:45:18] <c0lo> In any case, a pretty goog english translation: https://x5tvksztytgxrqd7jldbrtstcq--www-rtbf-be.translate.goog
[12:45:20] <systemd> ^ 03Drogue, criminalité financière, corruption : les criminels trahis par leurs téléphones, réputés impénétrables
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[13:02:59] <AzumaHazuki> je ne parle pour francais
[13:05:08] <Ingar> s/pour/pas/ :p
[13:06:43] <Ingar> 'français' in pedantic mode
[13:07:02] <c0lo> You don't need to speak it, you olny need to read it.
[13:08:47] <Ingar> https://www.vrt.be
[13:08:49] <systemd> ^ 03VRT NWS: news
[13:09:01] <Ingar> it actually does mention ECC, but mroe as a footnote
[13:13:24] <c0lo> Patience, the operation seems large enough for the news to percolate the anglosphere news in some 4-8h.
[13:15:22] <Ingar> actually, I wanted to find out where this Sky ECC has its home base
[13:18:26] <c0lo> So, you don't read french, Ingar? Cause that tidbit is in the first link I sent.
[13:19:02] <c0lo> That "Qu'est-ce que SKY ECC..."
[13:19:46] <c0lo> there, the goog trany https://translate.google.com
[13:19:47] <systemd> ^ 03Google Translate
[13:20:18] <c0lo> The parent company SKY GLOBAL is based in Vancouver and tells on its website that it was founded in 2008 by Jean-François Eap,with a first product marketed in 2010.
[13:20:44] <c0lo> https://translate.google.com
[13:20:46] <systemd> ^ 03SKY GLOBAL Inc - Securely Connecting Everyday Life ( https://4eeciaiqyz542h6bxtopoann3e--www-skyglobal-com.translate.goog )
[13:21:44] <c0lo> Ummm... https://www.skyglobal.com
[13:21:45] <systemd> ^ 03SKY GLOBAL Inc - Securely Connecting Everyday Life
[13:36:25] <Ingar> c0lo: I hadn't actually read the RTBF article, no
[13:36:29] <Ingar> so, Vancouver
[13:36:36] <Ingar> Blame Canada!
[13:37:16] <c0lo> Lazy Ingar
[13:39:47] <Ingar> workign ingar
[13:39:53] <Ingar> I shouldn't be chatting on IRC!
[13:56:19] <c0lo> Bad Ingar
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[14:05:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:05:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5512
[14:10:22] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:10:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5513
[14:11:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> is gonna be a loooong day. woke up long enough to notice like every half hour last night.
[14:12:14] <AzumaHazuki> i warned you about the sushi-and-banana pizza...
[14:13:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> was subs with * for toppings
[14:14:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> like everything a sub shop would have and about eight more things that caught my eye while i was at the store
[14:14:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> and of course i had to put all of them on each sammich
[14:15:24] <Bytram> #sammich TheMightyBuzzard
[14:15:24] * MrPlow sneaks up behind TheMightyBuzzard and cuts their throat
[14:15:24] * MrPlow fixes thinly sliced TheMightyBuzzard's corpse sammiches for everyone in #soylent
[14:15:45] <Bytram> yea, no thanks.
[14:16:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> you saying i'm not delicious?!
[14:16:08] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Hope things clear up for ya soon
[14:16:20] <Bytram> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[14:16:20] <Bender> Added quote 1032
[14:16:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, coffee to the rescue. just means i'll sleep really good tonight.
[14:16:57] <Bytram> it's a matter of taste, I s'pose
[14:17:00] <AzumaHazuki> caffeine doesn't work for me past a certain point...i'm anaemic and may be hypothyroid, still waiting on the exam results
[14:17:24] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: here's hoping they can figure it out soon for ya
[14:17:37] <AzumaHazuki> it's an adenosine receptor agonist and (for whatever this is worth) a phosphodiesterase inhibitor. keeps you from sleeping != keeps you awake
[14:17:48] <AzumaHazuki> antagonist*
[14:19:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> eat more liver n onions. if you soak the liver in heavy cream for four hours ahead of cooking it instead of an hour in milk, it's freaking amazing.
[14:20:33] * c0lo feels a gamey taste in TheMightyBuzzard sammiches. And a strong pungent smell of rotting corpses. Blaming it on his sushi-and-banana pizza diet.
[14:21:28] <FatPhil> are you pregnant?
[14:21:53] <FatPhil> just wondering why the choice of sushi and banana toppings
[14:22:15] <AzumaHazuki> gay girls don't usually get pregnant :v not the usual way anyway
[14:22:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you put sushi on a pizza and then cook the pizza, it's not sushi anymore, is it?
[14:22:32] <FatPhil> To be honest, salmon can be wonderful on pizza
[14:22:45] <AzumaHazuki> i've always had odd tastes like that. i'm not at all picky about food and will eat almost anything edible, though i don't like rich or creamy things much
[14:23:04] <AzumaHazuki> salty + sweet though? omgyesplz. cinnamon pretzel = <3
[14:23:54] <c0lo> GTFO with salmon on pizza. Sardines or surströmming.
[14:24:47] <c0lo> Or Vegemite.
[14:25:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> vegemite? you might as well use sheetrock spackle.
[14:25:20] <AzumaHazuki> one of the best slices i ever had was anchovies + meatball + extra cheese
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[14:26:02] <AzumaHazuki> ye gods, was i ever full after a slice of that
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[14:26:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm really not picky on pizza toppings as long as some animal died for at least one of them
[14:27:46] <FatPhil> yup, meat on pizza for me is a sine qua non
[14:27:56] <c0lo> Fell free to use as much sheetrock spackle, TMB, more Vegemite left for me.
[14:28:18] <FatPhil> just because you can't handle the real thing - marmite forever!
[14:28:22] <c0lo> s/Fell/feel/
[14:28:22] <SedBot> <c0lo> feel free to use as much sheetrock spackle, TMB, more Vegemite left for me.
[14:28:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> lately i've been going with the bacon cheeseburger toppings. bacon, ground beef, and moar cheese. but that's because three topping larges are the manager's special and quite cheap.
[14:28:42] <AzumaHazuki> oooh, i love lots and lots of veggies on pizza. mushrooms, broccoli, tomato bits, onions, olives...
[14:28:43] <c0lo> Marmite is sweet as hell.
[14:29:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, garlic soaked tomato chunks are badass
[14:29:15] <FatPhil> that's not the normal criticism of it
[14:29:43] <FatPhil> Pizza always benefits from sun-dried tomato
[14:29:45] <c0lo> I don't get you guys. Why take the room for meat on the topping with cheese?
[14:30:14] <FatPhil> because cheese is awesome, in particular when it browns and goes crunchy at the edges
[14:30:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, not dried. juicy and garlicy
[14:30:45] <c0lo> Can't be awesomer than bacon.
[14:31:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, it makes the bacon not fall off when you pick the slice up
[14:31:05] <FatPhil> fresh or marinaded tomatoes are too wet
[14:31:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> chunks the size of your thumbnail. the outside dries out but the inside gives you a little burst of tomato n garlic flavor.
[14:32:30] <c0lo> You're fooling noone, TMB. That's what Vegemite is for, fixing the bacon to the rest of the pizza.
[14:33:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not a pizza without cheese
[14:34:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, wait, THAT's why OZ has so many poisonous things. divine retribution for pizza blasphemy.
[14:35:05] <c0lo> =w pizza marinara
[14:35:06] <systemd> Pizza marinara is a style of Neapolitan pizza in Italian cuisine seasoned with only tomatoes, extra virgin olive oil, oregano and garlic. The name has - https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:35:15] <c0lo> Note: no cheese.
[14:35:26] * AzumaHazuki would eat it anyway :9
[14:35:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> we call those bread sticks here
[14:35:55] <AzumaHazuki> also am i like the only one who doesn't get the "NYC vs Chicago" pizza wars? I love them both. they're different but they're different in awesome ways
[14:35:59] <FatPhil> I used to share a flat with an Italian, I've had all sorts of pizzas without cheese. Potato pizza was a wierd one.
[14:36:48] <c0lo> Well, when you put sushi and banana on top, you can call it whatever you like, TMB
[14:38:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, shurg. i am not a deep dish fan. pizza needs to be portable. preferably foldable so the toppings don't spill off on the go.
[14:39:58] * c0lo always carry his pizza in his belly. Portable, see?
[14:40:28] <Bytram> how 'bout how the pizza is baked? Brick oven vs NY style (lotsa oil)
[14:41:09] <AzumaHazuki> lol
[14:41:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't that picky as long as i can grab a slice and walk around with it. chicago deep dish is quite good, mind you, but it's a casserole not a pizza.
[14:42:34] * Bytram favors brick oven, but I must admit (though it's been decades) there was a time when a Large Pizzareia Uno deep dish pizza made a (very filling) meal for me.
[14:43:23] <Bytram> Yes, not a slice -- a whole, large deep dish pizza.
[14:43:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> damned right
[14:43:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> no point half-assing it. whole ass for the win.
[14:44:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[14:44:07] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 806
[14:44:14] * Bytram resists another !grab
[14:44:39] <Bytram> yeah, day's awasting. time to get to stories.
[14:45:05] <AzumaHazuki> buffalo seems to have its own pizza style, i found out. it's kind of like NYC but a bit thicker, the dough has an odd sweet hint, and the pepperoni is a special "cup and char" type
[14:47:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FedEx Plans for an All-Electric Delivery Fleet by 2040 - https://sylnt.us - Jumping-on-the-EV-bandwagon
[14:57:12] <c0lo> bacon on garlic bread sammiches. 'Cause I forgot how hungry I was.
[14:57:33] <c0lo> Simple tastes will do at 2AM
[14:58:13] <AzumaHazuki> my body's used to only eating in an 8-hour window, say 7:30 PM to 3:30 AM. it's amazing how quickly you adjust to that
[15:00:56] <c0lo> Lemme think. I has 2 sammiches with cottage cheese at 11AM, some dumplings at 17... that's why I was hungry.
[15:11:09] <Bytram> =w fungicide
[15:11:10] <systemd> Fungicides are biocidal chemical compounds or biological organisms used to kill parasitic fungi or their spores. A fungistatic inhibits their growth. Fungi - https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:12:09] <c0lo> =w porcini
[15:12:09] <systemd> Boletus edulis (English: cep, penny bun, porcino or porcini) is a basidiomycete fungus, and the type species of the genus Boletus. Widely distributed - https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:16:15] <c0lo> =g popcorn lover's day
[15:16:16] <systemd> http://holidayinsights.com - Popcorn Lover's Day. March calendar holidays by Holiday Insights
[15:38:10] <c0lo> https://khn.org
[15:38:10] <systemd> ^ 03In Alabama, South Carolina and Louisiana, CVS Vaccine Appointments Go Unfilled
[15:41:34] <AzumaHazuki> i'm not saying we should burn the Deep South to the ground. But I'm saying Lincoln should have.
[15:47:53] <FatPhil> Such a momentous event would need a name...
[15:48:35] <FatPhil> /The Blackening/ ?
[15:49:00] <FatPhil> (after a brief crackly period of yellow and orange)
[15:57:38] <c0lo> =submit https://www.politico.com
[15:57:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Twitter Sues Texas Attorney General Over Investigation Into Content Moderation Practices" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:58:51] <c0lo> 1A against 1A. Buy popcorn stock.
[15:59:39] <FatPhil> the machine fights itself...
[15:59:59] <FatPhil> robot wars, suicide edition
[16:01:09] <c0lo> And you didn't like school / And you know you're nobody's fool
[16:07:29] <FatPhil> Welcome ... (woo-ey noises)
[16:10:32] <c0lo> And did we tell you the name of the game, boy?
[16:22:35] <FatPhil> Yes, the name is "fucking useless bank is fucking useless, and didn't transfer my gravy last month, which might get flagged as a default against the social security system, and disrupt my health insurance"
[16:22:49] <FatPhil> I love banks, me.
[16:25:06] <FatPhil> One of the banks we use have finally confessed to having an utterly useless web interface. They owned up to having *way too many people coming into the branch to do transactions* right now, and complaining about the web banking. (And we are at a hospitals-full covid peak currently, so not good optics.)
[16:25:44] <FatPhil> Well, that's the optimistic view, the pessimistic view is that we're not at the peak yet.
[16:30:38] <c0lo> Estonian or one of those traditionally unreliable British banks?
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[16:38:14] <FatPhil> I think the mothership is probably in Sweden. It's had at least 4 names since I started my account with it.
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[17:16:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Software Workers at Glitch Get a Historic Union Contract - https://sylnt.us - collective-bargaining
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[22:15:01] <Ellenor> FatPhil: Do you transact in euros or another currency?
[22:16:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft-Led Team Retracts Disputed Quantum-Computing Paper - https://sylnt.us - Ten-years-away!
[22:21:38] <Runaway1956> https://kfoxtv.com
[22:21:39] <systemd> ^ 03Gov. Greg Abbott claims Biden admin. not providing Border Patrol with COVID-19 vaccines
[22:21:51] <Runaway1956> It's a half hour video -
[22:22:12] <Runaway1956> TL:DW Governor Abbot is calling out the Biden administration over the border crisis
[22:25:18] <FatPhil> Ellenor: For everything relevant, Euros are all I do nowadays.
[22:25:40] <Ellenor> :/
[22:25:42] <FatPhil> Left the UK 21 years ago, been Eurozone practically the whole time since.
[22:26:39] <Ellenor> FatPhil: Do you plan to switch your current account to a different bank, since yours is jerking you around?
[22:27:27] <Ellenor> Do they call them chequing accounts in your current country like they do in Canada and the US?
[22:27:56] <FatPhil> Both the personal account and the business account are with that bank, and all my standing orders are set up from there. It's too much hassle to move, and I don't believe any other bank would be better.
[22:28:22] <FatPhil> Checks are so last-century!
[22:34:25] <FatPhil> I don't think the current country of Estonia has ever seen a check. When they created their banking system with a clean slate, they skipped all the legacy shit.
[22:34:55] <Ellenor> FatPhil: So, the last time they used cheques was under Soviet occupation?
[22:35:38] <chromas> Have they seen any Czechs though?
[22:35:53] <Runaway1956> Czechs are not legal tender
[22:40:00] <Ellenor> neither are cheques
[22:40:08] <Ellenor> cheques tend to be negotiable instruments
[22:40:58] <Ellenor> FatPhil: It's a shame SEPA doesn't have CASS.
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[22:58:59] <FatPhil> Ellenor: yup, I asked a bunch of mates here, and they'd never encountered a checkbook. Whilst old enough to remember Soviet times, they only remember getting voddy and change with a 10 rouble note, no other kind of transaction.
[23:04:37] <Ellenor> what
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[23:29:19] <FatPhil> which bit confused you?
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[23:57:29] <FatPhil> majorana