#soylent | Logs for 2021-03-08
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[00:00:19] <kyonko0> its like, here, have a rock and a deerskin, make something useful and sharp
[00:00:57] <kyonko0> I had the intel mgmt engine acting up a few months ago
[00:01:19] <kyonko0> I stayed in bed
[00:03:25] <kyonko0> we don't live in a world where you just slap linux on a really fast usb stick and boot from that straight into the login
[00:04:05] <kyonko0> so what do I do get UEFI-ONLY or a chromebook?
[00:04:06] <chromas> kyonko0: s/n't//
[00:04:23] <kyonko0> you know what I mean
[00:04:34] <kyonko0> ItS NoT ReAdY FoR ThE DeSkToP
[00:04:45] <kyonko0> its a web desktop, is that fine?
[00:04:58] <kyonko0> just put fucking chrome in full screen and do your web apps
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[00:05:12] <chromas> there are apps to run your web apps
[00:05:56] <kyonko0> GhostBSD requires STRAIGHT 2GB of ram for its desktop
[00:06:33] <chromas> that's 64 MB for the desktop, 3.9GB for the haunting
[00:06:46] <chromas> 1.9. or maybe math is haunted as well
[00:06:47] <kyonko0> I'll never forget it being 1999 and never having the hardware to run enlightenment, but I got eterm in windowmaker
[00:07:27] <kyonko0> it feels like its 1999 to my body
[00:07:29] <kyonko0> (not)
[00:07:47] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[00:07:47] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[00:08:35] <kyonko0> its 2021
[00:08:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> so i'm in there cooking dinner and listening to youtube run through its suggestions playlist and Rock and Roll Band by Boston comes on.
[00:09:15] <kyonko0> why don't we have a cooking bot yet?
[00:09:22] <kyonko0> is it because of the challenge of a human arm?
[00:10:00] <kyonko0> the dexter's lab cooking bot would just be a cephalopod tentacle made of chrome tubing
[00:10:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you ain't paid attention to the musical composition of that song in a while, queue it up and do so. the lyrical content of their songs is pretty good but the musical composition is up there with BB King as far as putting the perfect thing right where it belongs, and not putting anything else in.
[00:10:45] <kyonko0> cooking for me is literally a work out
[00:10:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt rock and roll band boston
[00:10:53] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Boston-Rock and Roll band
[00:11:00] <kyonko0> yes I know about boston
[00:11:05] <kyonko0> and journey
[00:11:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i been listening to em since forever but i picked me up a new appreciation for how good they were at writing music tonight
[00:12:07] <kyonko0> they don't have a boston accent, unless they change it for singing
[00:12:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea
[00:12:32] <kyonko0> ozzy doesn't sound british singing
[00:12:42] <kyonko0> or pink floyd
[00:13:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> the lyrics are just good. they're not deep or especially meaningful. they don't open new ways of thinking up to you. they just fit the music.
[00:13:24] <kyonko0> never heard def leppard as "british"
[00:13:31] <kyonko0> or the police
[00:13:44] <kyonko0> but bono is irish
[00:13:47] <kyonko0> lol
[00:13:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt twist and shout the beatles
[00:13:59] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Twist And Shout (Remastered 2009)
[00:13:59] <kyonko0> the irish accent can't be sung away
[00:14:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't get more british than the beatles and that song's sans accent
[00:14:55] <kyonko0> I have an accent
[00:14:59] <kyonko0> Los Angeles Latino
[00:16:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine's a mix of south carolina, oklahoma, and texas. i didn't used to have much of one what with how much i moved around but i decided one day that i'd pick one up.
[00:16:39] <kyonko0> oh so you are literally bill hicks
[00:17:14] <kyonko0> rms may be mit, but like feynman they don't have the accent
[00:17:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i did it on account of it puts blue collar folks at their ease and makes white collar folks underestimate the fuck out of me.
[00:17:41] <kyonko0> I think I identified an indiana accent
[00:17:53] <kyonko0> indiana-kentucky-tenessee
[00:18:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> kaintucky, ya mean?
[00:19:11] <kyonko0> open indiana
[00:19:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> anywho, back to cooking. don't wanna burn anything.
[00:19:42] <kyonko0> you already did
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[00:49:29] <c0lo> =submit https://www.gov.uk
[00:49:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03CMA Investigates Apple Over Suspected Anti-competitive Behaviour" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:55:15] <c0lo> =submit https://www.sciencealert.com
[00:55:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Humans Now Control the Majority of All Surface Freshwater Fluctuations on Earth" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:56:42] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[00:56:45] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03How Early Humans' Quest for Food Stoked the Flames of Evolution" (29p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:57:50] <c0lo> =submit https://science.sciencemag.org
[00:58:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Estimated Transmissibility and Impact of SARS-CoV-2 Lineage B.1.1.7 in England" (44p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:58:31] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
[00:58:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Astronomers May Have Found the First Evidence for Tectonic Activity on an Exoplanet" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:02:37] <c0lo> =submit dune-on-mars https://www.scmp.com
[01:02:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03China’s Tianwen-1 Zooms in on Mars Surface on Cusp of New Tech Era" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:04:53] <c0lo> =submit https://www.freethink.com
[01:04:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Are Genetically Modified Trees a Climate Change Solution?" (58p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:08:31] <c0lo> =submit https://dailygalaxy.com
[01:08:34] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08The Short, Violent Life of a Red Hypergiant Star --"Monster VY Canis Majoris is Like Betelgeuse on S" (29p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[02:15:41] <c0lo> =submit https://www.rawstory.com
[02:15:43] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Capitol Rioter Charged With Assaulting Cop Begs Judge to Let Him 'Go Home to My Mom and Dad': Report" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:17:32] <AzumaHazuki> LOL. Such big tough men
[02:20:01] <c0lo> His grandma, I suppose https://www.rawstory.com
[02:20:02] <systemd> ^ 03Conspiracy theorist says Biden White House is on a movie set
[02:24:08] <c0lo> Shooting himself in the foot to have an excuse to put it on his mouth https://www.rawstory.com
[02:24:09] <systemd> ^ 03‘Loser’ Trump brutally mocked after lashing out at ‘disloyal’ GOP senator: ‘Stupidest possible move’
[02:33:35] <kyonko0> why do I always have to do: sudo bash and then whoami?
[02:34:14] <kyonko0> are they trying to get rid of the root account?
[02:41:23] <c0lo> Root account? The root account is no more, its existence is a conspiracy theory.
[02:52:25] * Runaway1956 doesn't like or use sudo
[02:52:31] <Runaway1956> su instead
[02:52:38] <Runaway1956> then exit when you've done what you wanted to do
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[02:55:10] <Runaway1956> Finally creating a Win10 virtual machine to play around in
[02:55:34] <Runaway1956> The installer is making my CPUs race, lol
[03:00:21] <Runaway1956> Only gave it 4 CPU cores, maybe more would have made the installer run faster?
[03:02:52] <Bytram> =g Amdahl's law
[03:02:53] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Amdahl's law - Wikipedia
[03:04:23] <Bytram> "Amdahl's law is often used in parallel computing to predict the theoretical speedup when using multiple processors. For example, if a program needs 20 hours to complete using a single thread, but a one-hour portion of the program cannot be parallelized, therefore only the remaining 19 hours (p = 0.95) of execution time can be parallelized, then regardless of how many threads are devoted to a parallelized execution of this program, the
[03:04:23] <Bytram> minimum execution time cannot be less than one hour. Hence, the theoretical speedup is limited to at most 20 times the single thread performance, ( 1 1 − p = 20 ) {\displaystyle \left({\dfrac {1}{1-p}}=20\right)} {\displaystyle \left({\dfrac {1}{1-p}}=20\right)}. "
[03:04:38] <Runaway1956> I don't even know how to start computing that -
[03:05:05] <Runaway1956> The hard disk is probably the bottleneck - RAID5 on spinning platters
[03:05:11] <Bytram> (1 / (1-p)) = 20
[03:05:54] <Bytram> what RPM, cache sizes, RAID level, # disks?
[03:06:35] <Bytram> locally-connected RAID? Or over a network?
[03:06:55] <Runaway1956> RAID5 on four disks - I'd have to look up the specs - they are moderately high quality enterprise disks
[03:07:17] <Bytram> so prolly 7200 RPM or better
[03:07:31] <Runaway1956> Yeah, 7200, I think Hitachi
[03:09:11] <Runaway1956> Huh - it wants email, phone, or Skype before it will set up an account
[03:09:34] <chromas> no
[03:09:39] <chromas> pick local account
[03:10:02] <chromas> don't use an ms account or you'll get aids
[03:10:05] <Runaway1956> thank you - I had almost decided local, was wondering if it made a difference
[03:10:09] * Bytram planned ahead when he got his SATA 6-Mbps SSDs for his laptops. When the next, even faster storage medium becomes the norm, can still make a RAID out of 'em.
[03:10:48] <Runaway1956> cool
[03:10:52] <Bytram> chromas++ has been working for me so far
[03:10:52] <Bender> karma - chromas: 341
[03:14:20] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:14:21] <systemd> ^ 03Gustafson's law
[03:15:11] <AzumaHazuki> shit, they figured it out...the entire Biden presidency is staged, just like the moon landings and covid itself. all crisis actors
[03:16:41] <Bytram> =cite http://www.cs.wisc.edu
[03:16:44] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/><b>Amdahl's Law in the Multicore Era</b>, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/http://www.cs.wisc.edu/multifacet/amdahl/">http://www.cs.wisc.edu/multifacet/amdahl/</a>)</p>
[03:19:39] <Runaway1956> Holy crap, there's a lot of stupid crap to get through
[03:24:55] <Runaway1956> Finally get a working desktop, install VBox guest additions, rebooting . . .
[03:28:24] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhh, there we go - 1920x1080, now it looks like something
[03:42:13] <Bytram> crooks can be deceiving
[03:42:42] <chromas> You found some new Win10 features?
[03:42:55] <Bytram> not me
[03:43:16] <chromas> if it's still running you've probably got some games and other stuff populating your start menu by now
[03:43:36] <Bytram> it's hibernating
[03:44:14] <Bytram> fwiw, I instructed that I had a limited/metered connection.
[03:44:51] <Runaway1956> Telemetry turned off in group policy - now to make sure the router intercepts any attempts to bypass group policy
[03:45:09] <chromas> there're tools to disable extra telemetries and other junk that windows doesn't have a switch for
[03:45:28] <Bytram> that said, I've run up into a question about filling out my takes that is gonna have to wait 'til morning -- need to sleep on it for a bit.
[03:45:52] <Bytram> and, for that, there's no time like the present to hit the hay!
[03:45:54] <chromas> no takes without representates
[03:46:04] <Bytram> Have a great night everybody!
[03:46:05] <Runaway1956> 'gnight
[03:46:38] <Bytram> #gherkin ru
[03:46:55] <Bytram> =gherkin Runaway1956
[03:46:56] * systemd crutchyly spews a TCP stream of inappropriate jokes on Runaway1956
[03:47:27] <Bytram> =glance chromas
[03:47:27] * systemd retroactively slides a zfs volume of systemd to chromas
[03:47:40] <Bytram> laters!
[03:47:49] <chromas> =gurgle Bytram
[03:47:49] * systemd diabolically slides a 3½" floppy disk of Subsentient's salty neckbeard to Bytram
[04:21:10] <Runaway1956> "Getting Windows ready Don't turn off your computer"
[04:21:24] <Runaway1956> That's for updates . . .
[04:31:34] <kyonko0> "leave everything to us"
[04:31:39] <kyonko0> "leave everything to us"
[04:31:40] <kyonko0> "leave everything to us"
[04:32:03] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I've seen that a half dozen times already
[04:32:13] <kyonko0> remember that once you install FreeBSD 2.2.5 to always remove the cdrom and floppy drives, kay?
[04:32:35] <Runaway1956> Black Viper tweaks are already going into effect on Win10 lol
[04:32:38] <kyonko0> Runaway1956: MacOS X is no better, and chromebooks are tolerable, like android
[04:37:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Asteroid Itokawa Contains Water and Organic Matter - https://sylnt.us
[04:39:37] <kyonko0> "Organic" like shit bound to carbon, great
[04:40:02] <kyonko0> Stop mocking the creationists, thanks
[04:41:51] <kyonko0> what kind of a stunt was apple trying to pull with ipad and iphone?
[04:49:39] <AzumaHazuki> why should we stop mocking creationists, pray tell?
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[04:52:49] <KenHam> Were you there?
[04:53:17] <KenHam> Come visit my Creation Museum!
[05:00:06] <KenHam> You should visit my buddy chemist scientist midhusband machanic John Morris Pendleton https://www.youtube.com
[05:00:09] <systemd> ^ 03Hello, I'm A Scientist 1: Young Earth (Part 1)
[06:06:29] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, because creationists do a better job mocking themselves, we can't catch up.
[06:06:49] <c0lo> https://pbs.twimg.com
[06:06:53] <AzumaHazuki> it needs done though, since their audience isn't catching on
[07:06:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Flaws in Zoom’s Keybase App Kept Chat Images From Being Deleted - https://sylnt.us
[08:18:29] <c0lo> =submit federal-waste-to-promote-voting-access https://www.whitehouse.gov
[08:18:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Access Denied" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:19:15] <c0lo> =submit https://thehill.com
[08:19:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Biden Vows to Work With Congress to 'Refine' Voting Rights Bill" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:19:40] <c0lo> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
[08:19:42] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Biden Signs Order to Promote US Voting Rights, Access" (24p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:37:31] <chromas> Huh. So they're promoting voting access but won't even support bot access
[08:55:57] <AzumaHazuki> yOu MeAn To PrOmOtE vOtEr FrAuD </runaway>
[09:03:41] <c0lo> Bot cancel culture, chromas
[09:04:15] <chromas> dangit, botby!
[09:08:11] <c0lo> just take care what those bots are doing, you know, meatbags who got unauthorized access to Capitol resources back in Jan...
[09:10:16] <chromas> make them pay
[09:10:21] <chromas> call it a capitol gains tax
[09:12:01] <c0lo> As an alien, I take no reponsibility for pointing systemd onto whitehouse.gov
[09:13:28] <AzumaHazuki> that's terrorism
[09:19:57] <FatPhil> Lennart Poettering != repenting, tolerant
[09:20:21] <FatPhil> annoyingly he doesn't have 'terror' in his name
[09:32:35] <chromas> T'Error is his middle name
[09:38:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China's Tianwen-1 Zooms in on Mars Surface on Cusp of New Tech Era - https://sylnt.us - dune-on-mars
[09:40:26] * c0lo doesn't understand why terror needs 3 R's. Would be as effective with only 2
[09:40:55] * Ingar terrorizes c0lo with a strong rolling dutch R
[09:41:41] <Ingar> even worse, a flemish one
[09:42:07] <chromas> as long as there's no dutch oven
[09:43:52] * c0lo s'en fiche de R-s
[09:45:03] <Ingar> t' est francophone?
[09:45:38] <c0lo> Pas du tout, Ingar, pas du tout. Just a poser.
[09:46:04] <c0lo> with a single r.
[09:47:06] <Ingar> "Shield and Friend"
[10:00:58] <c0lo> =submit anarchist-rioting-spring-season-without-trump https://www.sbs.com.au
[10:01:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03SBS News" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:06:15] <c0lo> =submit https://www.space.com
[10:06:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'Gravity Portals' Could Morph Dark Matter Into Ordinary Matter, Astrophysicists Propose" (32p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:11:32] <c0lo> =submit https://www.caranddriver.com
[10:11:35] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Autonomous Delivery Robots are Now 'Pedestrians' in Pennsylvania" (7p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:12:16] <c0lo> Next, they'l extend the 2nd to autonomous delivery robots, to protect themselves.
[10:13:30] <c0lo> =submit https://www.bloomberg.com
[10:13:30] <systemd> c0lo, 04submit failed: Bloomberg is racist against robots!
[10:14:01] * c0lo boos bloombergs
[10:14:08] <FatPhil> if you're committing flegmish linguistic terrorism, just say '888' repeatedly
[10:14:28] <FatPhil> brollies up!
[10:15:23] <Ingar> n8w8
[10:16:08] <c0lo> =submit https://www.arabnews.com
[10:16:10] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Saudi Arabia Offers Europe ‘Green’ Hydrogen by Pipeline" (4p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:16:36] <c0lo> =submit https://www.worldoil.com
[10:16:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Saudi Arabia Takes Steps to Lead the $700B Global Hydrogen Market" (33p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:17:01] <Ingar> oh yeah, hydrogen pipelines through the most unstable area of the world
[10:17:14] * Ingar orders more popcorn
[10:28:05] <c0lo> The French would be wiser to pay Morroco to act as their hydrogen supplier, yes.
[10:28:32] <c0lo> s/Morroco/Morocco/
[10:28:32] <SedBot> <c0lo> The French would be wiser to pay Morocco to act as their hydrogen supplier, yes.
[10:28:56] * c0lo damns those double Rs
[10:28:57] <AzumaHazuki> hydrogen over long distances sounds like a boondoggle IMO
[10:32:22] <c0lo> Not much boondogle than natural gas pipes https://en.wikipedia.org
[10:32:23] <systemd> ^ 03Hydrogen pipeline transport
[10:33:10] <c0lo> Just needs different steel and probs lower pressure.
[10:33:21] <AzumaHazuki> so they don't liquefy it in transit then? and what of hydrogen embrittlement?
[10:37:22] <c0lo> No liquefaction. Lower pressure and a maleable steel does with hydrogen embrittlement.
[10:37:53] <c0lo> Lower pressure is compensated by a higher specific energy.
[10:38:40] <c0lo> Something that I don't remember seeing on S/N back in Feb...
[10:38:46] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theverge.com
[10:38:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Verge" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:38:57] <AzumaHazuki> fascinating. i didn't think it would be soluble, the problem of embrittlement. H2 molecules are just that tiny
[10:39:33] <c0lo> =submit https://www.cnbc.com
[10:39:35] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Who, What and Where of Elon Musk's $100 Million Prize Money for Carbon Capture Innovation" (32p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:41:03] <c0lo> Pressure dependent and inner structure of the metal. Larger cristals will deal better with the problem.
[10:44:05] <Ingar> No we know why Elon bought bitcoins
[10:44:08] <Ingar> *now
[10:45:00] <Ingar> He can use the profit to capture the carbon it generates
[10:45:14] <c0lo> Did you know about... **Carbon Program Manager at Microsoft**?
[10:45:34] <c0lo> =submit https://www.jwnenergy.com
[10:45:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Gates Backs Icelandic Startup That Turns Carbon Dioxide Into Stone" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:46:34] <c0lo> (CO2 reacting with basalts, apparently)
[10:47:49] <c0lo> ^^^ in related old news: https://blogs.microsoft.com
[10:48:05] <Ingar> c0lo: the carbon windows udpate generates definetly needs a manager
[10:48:47] <c0lo> Microsoft pleadges to suck it back all by 2050.
[10:49:09] <AzumaHazuki> the day microsoft makes something that DOESN'T suck is the day they get into the vacuum cleaner business
[10:49:36] <c0lo> No news about the CO2 generated by the need of running antimalware solutions.
[10:49:36] <Ingar> they'd blow
[10:50:22] <Ingar> someone needs to write a paper on the CO2 generated by cloud services
[10:50:33] <AzumaHazuki> ...speaking of stuff that generates atmospheric carbon, Gentoo just rolled out GCC 10.x to stable amd64. This is one of those "after you update, do an emerge -e world and let it run overnight" things ><
[10:51:07] <Ingar> in the meanwhile I run pacman -Suy on 20 machines, using a local package cache
[10:51:17] <c0lo> Do it while the weather is cold and you need heating anyway.
[10:51:31] <Ingar> c0lo: in that case, I run graphics benchmarks
[10:51:40] <Ingar> my GPU generates a lot more heat than my CPU
[10:51:53] <Ingar> (ueah, I actually used my PC as heather this winter)
[10:53:01] <c0lo> At least there's a benefit from compiling something. Or mining some Dogecoins
[10:53:31] <Ingar> I've noticed most of the heat actually comes from my monitors
[10:53:31] <c0lo> (none such for gpu benchmarks)
[11:05:14] <c0lo> =submit https://gizmodo.com
[11:05:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Software Workers at Glitch Get a Historic Union Contract" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:05:42] <c0lo> ^^^ "The news is extraordinary, not just because they claim to be the first software workers to have secured a collective bargaining agreement, but because the lead-up to ratification has been so quiet: no leaked memos of smear campaigns, no evidence of union-busting firms. Wonderful, and eerie."
[11:07:51] <c0lo> Contrast to...
[11:07:58] <c0lo> =submit https://mashable.com
[11:08:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03That Trending #BoycottAmazon Hashtag is Led by Consumers, Not the Union" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:10:03] <c0lo> =submit https://www.npr.org
[11:10:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Remembering Allan McDonald: He Refused to Approve Challenger Launch, Exposed Cover-Up" (30p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:10:59] <c0lo> =submit https://www.npr.org
[11:11:01] <systemd> c0lo, 04submit failed: rehash successfully returned a yuge subid (203758911), which usually means the sub is a dupe.
[11:12:34] <c0lo> ^^^ He just died at 83
[11:20:24] <c0lo> =submit fuckit-we're-doing-ev-too https://www.engadget.com
[11:20:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03FedEx Plans for an All-electric Delivery Fleet by 2040" (4p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:35:13] <c0lo> Irritating, I know, but Trump was still the best yesterday http://www.snooker.org
[11:35:16] <systemd> ^ 03BetVictor Gibraltar Open (2021) - snooker.org
[11:42:27] <c0lo> That's... interesting
[11:43:10] <c0lo> but too old.
[11:47:03] <c0lo> Oops... https://www.forbes.com
[11:47:04] <systemd> ^ 03500,000 Texans Register To Vote In Five Months Through New Online Registration
[12:05:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Quantum Computer Just Solved a Problem Three Million Times Faster than a Classical Computer - https://sylnt.us - one-year's-work-shrunk-to-7.8-seconds
[12:32:39] <c0lo> xkcd 203
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[13:27:35] * Teckla wants an EV
[13:27:47] <Teckla> So expensive to install a charger in the garage though :(
[13:42:27] <gozar> If you don't need to top it off every night, you may be able to get away with a 110V charger.
[13:42:40] <gozar> Depends on how many miles you normally drive in a day.
[14:27:09] <requerdanos> no, it depends on your peak need, not your average.
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[14:35:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Women Used to Dominate the Beer Industry – Until the Witch Accusations Started Pouring In - https://sylnt.us - Boil,-dry-hops,-toil-and-trouble
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[17:27:20] <FatPhil> Woop woop! Gibs #2 has arrived! Thanks President Donald J Trump!
[17:28:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SK Hynix Begins Production of 18 GB LPDDR5 Memory... for Smartphones - https://sylnt.us
[17:28:22] <FatPhil> They kinda fucked up the in-laws' payments, they got too much, we think.
[17:28:41] <FatPhil> Not that it matters, the dollar will be worth nothing before long ;-)
[17:29:15] <FatPhil> I'm stocking up on beers, so that I've got something of value to trade with.
[17:29:59] <FatPhil> and if I'm wrong, hell, I've got beers to drink.
[17:35:33] <FatPhil> Did anyone else receive a check, rather than the cards or direct transfers?
[17:38:32] <FatPhil> The "security" of the checks was hilarious. Firstly, it clearly identified itself as from the treasury. It also had a warning on the envelope about how forgery of endorsments on treasury checks is a Federal crime. And finally, it had a huge transparent window showing the check, and clearly the words "economic impact payment" were visible.
[17:38:45] <FatPhil> It really really really really said "steal me".
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[19:13:41] <FatPhil_> I have discovered a source of infinite energy!
[19:13:43] <FatPhil_> Battery 1: Discharging, 5%, discharging at zero rate - will never fully discharge.
[19:13:56] <FatPhil_> laptop is not plugged into the mains
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[20:17:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Saudi Arabia Takes Steps to Lead a Potential $700 Billion Global Hydrogen Market - https://sylnt.us - it's-a-gas
[20:35:20] <Bytram> hmmm
[20:35:27] <Bytram> So close and yet so far!
[20:36:24] <Bytram> I've got two laptops, and two printers, and I cannot seem to get anything to print (especially my taxes!)
[20:37:26] <chromas> Where's the third laptop?
[20:37:44] <Bytram> ATM, I have *both* printers connected (via USB) to my Win 10 laptop.
[20:38:02] <Bytram> resting
[20:38:22] <chromas> is the 10 lap connected to the internets?
[20:38:29] <Bytram> yes
[20:38:42] <chromas> hm, did windows find any drivers automatically?
[20:39:09] <Bytram> I *think* so, but not certain
[20:39:44] <chromas> Better check the device manager
[20:40:09] <chromas> you can skip over all the control panel bs by pressing win+x or right-clicking the start button
[20:40:18] <chromas> or maybe it's shift-clicking. don't remember
[20:41:24] <Bytram> have device manager running
[20:42:20] <chromas> if I remember right, devices with missing drivers have a tiny question mark on the icon, and broken/malfunctioning ones have an exclamation mark and/or point
[20:42:55] <chromas> =g exclamation mark vs exclamation point
[20:42:56] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Exclamation mark - Wikipedia
[20:43:21] <chromas> oh there's a knowledge gender gap now
[20:43:33] <chromas> thanks, wikipedia
[20:43:42] <Bytram> "Windows was unable tyo install your HL-L2380DW"
[20:44:06] <chromas> at least it tells you what it is
[20:44:14] * Bytram is going to try "Search for updated drivers on Windows update"
[20:44:16] <chromas> my favorite is when it has no idea what the device even is
[20:44:45] <chromas> https://support.brother.com
[20:44:45] <systemd> ^ 03Downloads | HL-L2380DW | United States | Brother
[20:44:51] <Bytram> can of worms: opened
[20:45:33] <chromas> 36.94 maga bytes for just the driver package
[20:46:53] <Bytram> tx for that, but not sure how to tell Windows to get it from there
[20:47:11] <Runaway1956> FWIW - Win10 virtual machine is all setup, updated, tweaked, and somewhat personalized
[20:47:14] <chromas> you download and run it
[20:47:21] <Runaway1956> It's not as horrible as I thought it would be
[20:47:34] <Runaway1956> but it certainly isn't Linux
[20:47:41] <chromas> the true horror liew beneath the surface
[20:47:50] <chromas> the windows surface tablet
[20:47:51] <Bytram> Runaway1956: Happy for you!
[20:48:03] <Bytram> chromas: LOL!
[20:48:18] <chromas> hey remember when the surface was a bigass table?
[20:48:27] <Bytram> Is there a "standard" place where I should download them to>
[20:48:30] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[20:48:31] <systemd> ^ 03microsoft bigg ass table. A Microsoft Surface parody
[20:48:32] <Bytram> s/>/?/
[20:48:32] <SedBot> <Bytram> Is there a "standard" place where I should download them to?
[20:48:42] <chromas> Bytram: I know it's been decades since you last ran windows
[20:48:59] <Bytram> And a couple versions before, too,
[20:49:13] <Runaway1956> Everything downloads to Downloads - then you delete it when you no longer need it
[20:49:29] <Bytram> Runaway1956: mare sea!
[20:49:42] <chromas> it's probably going to give you an .exe or .msi installer that you run, which will install the drivers
[20:50:19] <chromas> is it weird that most .msi installers are run from an .exe installer and the .msi can't be run on its own?
[20:50:55] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah - I installed Camingo code font into Win10 and made it default
[20:51:09] <Runaway1956> That Times New Roman kinda sucked IMO
[20:51:33] <chromas> How many control panels? Let me count the ways: and ode to Windows 10
[20:51:44] <chromas> s/d//
[20:51:44] <SedBot> <chromas> How many control panels? Let me count the ways: an ode to Windows 10
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[20:52:29] * Bytram waves at me
[20:52:53] <Runaway1956> lol
[20:52:58] * Bytram makes a lateral pass: https://support.brother.com
[20:55:46] <Bytram> "You must be logged in as an Administrator"
[20:56:02] <Bytram> how do I know/tell?
[20:56:15] <Runaway1956> so right click on it, and select "run as administrator"
[20:56:28] <Bytram> ahhh, right!
[20:56:37] <Bytram> gotta download it, first
[20:56:41] <Runaway1956> you should get a popup, "do you want to allow this software blah"
[20:57:15] <Bytram> Looks like it's 165 MB
[20:57:30] <Bytram> 8 minutes lets
[20:57:37] <Bytram> *left
[20:57:41] <chromas> ah, you got the Full Package™
[20:58:09] <Bytram> yep. "If some is good, and more is better, then too much is not enough!"
[20:58:22] <Bytram> #sammich
[20:58:22] * MrPlow whips up a chromas sammich for Bytram
[20:58:35] <Bytram> chromas: SORRY!
[20:58:42] <chromas> =taco Bytram
[20:58:43] * systemd throws a soggy bag of kickass tacos onto the floor
[20:58:59] * Bytram skulks away and makes lunch... biab
[20:59:28] <Bytram> chromas: thanks so much for your help (again!)!
[20:59:40] <chromas> you're welcome
[20:59:48] * chromas passes 10% of thanks over to Runaway1956
[21:04:28] * Runaway1956 only want 5%
[21:05:18] * Bytram wonders if there any 1%'ers here?
[21:09:14] <chromas> We're all 1%ers
[21:09:24] <chromas> we're the 1% who runs linux on the desktop
[21:09:51] <Runaway1956> Some of us run Linux on our laps, I believe
[21:10:15] <Runaway1956> Linux groin - that's hardcore!
[21:10:37] <Bytram> Runaway1956: s/i/a/2
[21:10:38] <SedBot> <Bytram> <Runaway1956> Linux groan - that's hardcore!
[21:15:55] <Bytram> "The InstallShield Wizard has successfully installed Brother Software Suite. Before you can use the program, you must restart your computer."
[21:16:16] <Runaway1956> It's a trap!
[21:16:26] <chromas> Very often you can ignore the reboot requirement
[21:16:26] <Bytram> s/a t/c/
[21:16:32] <Bytram> Runaway1956: s/a t/c/
[21:16:32] <SedBot> <Bytram> <Runaway1956> It's crap!
[21:16:52] <Bytram> chromas++
[21:16:52] <Bender> karma - chromas: 342
[21:17:33] <Bytram> ( ) Yes, I want to restart my computer now.
[21:17:34] <Bytram> ( ) No, i will restart my computer later.
[21:18:24] * Bytram clicks "No" amd yjrm clicks "[Finish]"
[21:18:45] <Runaway1956> ( ) Maybe I want to watch an endless cycle of reboot
[21:19:54] <Bytram> [!] The wizard has successfully installed Brother Software Suite. Before you can use the program, your computer must be restarted."
[21:20:05] * Bytram clicks "[OK]"
[21:21:59] <chromas> Does the device manager show a working printer?
[21:23:45] <Bytram> Looks like it!
[21:25:40] <Bytram> printer is powering up
[21:25:43] <Bytram> printinh
[21:26:15] <Bytram> and seems to be printing dople
[21:26:20] <Bytram> needs paper
[21:30:37] <chromas> need input, Stephanie
[22:46:25] <pinchy> super straight
[22:46:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Ongoing Raspberry Pi Fiasco - https://sylnt.us - same-old-M$
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[22:52:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Interesting story about the Pi's. Never knew that.
[22:53:02] <Bytram> =yt american pie
[22:53:03] <systemd> https://youtube.com - American Pie (08:37; 40,276,077 views; 👍347,817 👎34,379)
[22:53:20] <chromas> I didn't know RPis had their own OS
[22:53:59] <Ethanol-fueled> During the final days when I worked with Boston Dynamics, I had went to lunch with one of the international-mid levels of the company, who told me that he heard about NASA being hacked because somebody had hooked a Pi up to the network, or something.
[22:54:08] <Bytram> =g rasbian
[22:54:09] <systemd> https://www.raspberrypi.org - Operating system images – Raspberry Pi
[22:54:58] <Bytram> Ethanol-fueled: I recall reading something about that, as well.
[22:55:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Thought the guy was a loon. Turns out a bit of time later it makes sense. Microsoft hacks you, China and Israel hack it.
[22:56:13] <Bytram> ISTR the perpetrators came in through its WiFi port? Not at all certain, but that's what comes to mind atm.
[22:56:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Damn shame, too. Those things could run some serious shit with the Linux and the GPIO
[22:59:27] <Ethanol-fueled> I liked to use Arduinos for their single-mindedness
[23:00:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Guess I was right not to use something better and faster in a corporate environment.
[23:00:36] <chromas> Could just disable the wifi
[23:00:39] <chromas> and ms repo
[23:01:53] <Bytram> Waaaay back when there were "dicussions" between using separate stereo components (tuner, amp, tape deck, record payer, etc.) vs all-in-one systems.
[23:02:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Bytram, those days were easy because cables and jacks were color-coded.
[23:02:36] <chromas> That's like a thousand years before raspberry pis
[23:03:01] * Bytram is not quite *that* old!
[23:04:31] * chromas tests Bytram's carbon-14 levels
[23:06:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Gonna bail.
[23:08:19] <Bytram> Ethanol-fueled: Wasn't about the cables. Should one combine single-purpose devices into one system, or get a single device with all the parts built together. The one-piece was convenient and could be less expensive (e.g. single power supply and enclosure vs multiples), *OR* have the flesibility if you need to service, say, the tape deck, one could send in just that part and still have a mostly-functioning system until the tape deck was
[23:08:20] <Bytram> repaired.
[23:08:46] <Bytram> Ethanol-fueled: thanks for the chat!
[23:09:10] <pinchy> omg its jiggaboo-fueled in da hizhouse
[23:09:48] <Bytram> =yt gigolo
[23:09:48] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Nick Cannon - Gigolo (NTSC) ft. R. Kelly (04:09; 5,870,706 views; 👍66,082 👎5,423)
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[23:20:37] <FatPhil> wize words
[23:20:47] <FatPhil> ken has edumicated me
[23:21:01] <Bytram> who be ken?
[23:21:12] <Bytram> Barbie's friend?
[23:21:40] <FatPhil> ole mr hambone there
[23:21:52] <FatPhil> dunno if you see quit messages
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[23:22:22] <Bytram> oh, yeah, I do. Was wondring wot you were going on about!
[23:22:32] <FatPhil> never go full crocoduck
[23:22:46] <Bytram> !grab FatPhil
[23:22:46] <Bender> Added quote 1031
[23:23:11] <FatPhil> I don't deserve the credit for that, only for bringing to to wider attention.
[23:23:30] * Bytram is not sure what crocoduck is, but that sounds like really good advice, any way!
[23:23:47] <FatPhil> I will confess that /Tropic Thunder/ is one of my favourite throwaway belly-laugh comedies.
[23:24:01] <Bytram> never saw it
[23:24:40] <Bytram> =w Tropic Thunder
[23:24:41] <systemd> Tropic Thunder is a 2008 satirical action comedy film directed by Ben Stiller. It stars Stiller, Jack Black, Robert Downey Jr., Jay Baruchel, and Brandon - https://en.wikipedia.org
[23:25:18] <FatPhil> crocoducks are a straw man used by creationists. They think that because between early primates and humans there are supposedly these "intermediate species", there must also be intermediates between any two animals.
[23:26:42] <FatPhil> No joke, they really are that retarded. That's why it's become a bit of a meme - they've just armed us with a tool that demonstrates their illogic.
[23:29:27] <FatPhil> Tropic Thunder isn't politically correct, that's much of the point of it. I would genuinely expect it to be "cancelled" at some point before too long. (If it hasn't already)
[23:29:39] <Bytram> that's... not even wrong!
[23:36:52] <FatPhil> It was presumably empowered by anti-GMO scare stories of salmon-tomatoes.
[23:37:05] <FatPhil> (or were they tomato-salmon, I forget)
[23:37:58] <Bytram> =yt attack of the killer tomatoes
[23:37:59] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes (01:23:28; 17,081 views; 👍317 👎11)
[23:38:43] <FatPhil> mostly because after frequent denials of such things by scientists, actual papers about the gene-splicing of fish genes into tomatoes were uncovered by the anti-GMO crowd. Scientists lost a lot of cred there.
[23:39:29] <FatPhil> And on the topic of scientific cred, I just made an amazing discovery...
[23:40:15] <FatPhil> Do you remember how, back in march 2020, one John Ioannidis was making statements that were really really unpopular with other scientists regarding lockdowns...
[23:41:04] <FatPhil> There might be a reason why he was always going to be really really unpopular with other scientists, no matter what the truthiness, or otherwise, of his actual statements was...
[23:41:47] <FatPhil> Because he's the same John Ioannidis behind this classic: https://journals.plos.org
[23:41:48] <systemd> ^ 03Why Most Published Research Findings Are False