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[23:58:22] <kyonko--> didn't make me a psycho
[23:58:09] <kyonko--> real weird
[23:58:00] <kyonko--> I remember in duke nukem 3d they had torn off genitals in the game
[23:57:16] <kyonko--> even tho those guys go back to imsai and mits altair
[23:56:59] <kyonko--> tim allen is ok
[23:56:49] <kyonko--> redact his name with a black marker
[23:56:36] <kyonko--> if you want to get into software, avoid bill gates
[23:56:21] <halibut> That's also a good choice.
[23:56:04] <kyonko--> well, I was going to say linus torvalds
[23:55:55] <halibut> Isn't that Carmack?
[23:55:45] <kyonko--> the god of software
[23:55:29] <kyonko--> JOHN ROMERO
[23:55:26] <kyonko--> oh shit
[23:54:49] <halibut> Kind of a clever way to force a particular way to win, albeit a little gruesome to use your own head.
[23:54:15] <halibut> You are actually shooting into a hidden room and damaging the actual thing below where the rockets hit -- a severed head of John Romero, the level designer.
[23:53:48] <halibut> You win by shooting rockets into the exposed brain of the demon. However, if you edit the level (or turn on no-clipping), you find out that it has to be rockets because they are the only weapon with an area-of-effect damage.
[23:53:04] <halibut> FatPhil: Yes. The sound the final demon of Doom II makes always sounded to me like a garbled statement starting off with ``Are you ready to die?'', which seemed very appropriate. Played backwards, however, it is a pretty clear ``To win the game, you must defeat John Romero.''
[23:49:46] <kyonko--> I'll never forget when I dreamed about "No Operating System Found"
[23:44:47] <Bytram> "Selected boot device failed" "Press any key to return to the F12 menu and choose a LEGACY BOOT or UEFI BOOT option."
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[23:43:54] <systemd> ^ 03All DOOM Sound Effects Reversed
[23:43:52] <FatPhil> halibut: I culd only hear one obvious backward sound here: https://www.youtube.com "to win the game ..." something
[23:43:17] <Bytram> oookay, got into the one-time boot menu
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[23:37:12] <Bytram> I used their stuff in '96/'97 time frame
[23:36:21] <chromas> SGI was still around when Flash was popular?
[23:36:06] <Bytram> IRIX... was that around the time of Indigo and Octane?
[23:35:32] <halibut> Does that means SGI's could not enter the page, or they were the only ones that got to skip the intro?
[23:34:51] <halibut> The Doom sound that is really a quote backwards -- I was certain it was just a garbled voice, and thought I could make out the words in it. However, playing backwards, it's pretty obvious what it was.
[23:34:42] <FatPhil> never been a Flash player for SGI's IRIX workstation platform.
[23:34:42] <FatPhil> Flash animation with no 'skip intro' button. Yet there has
[23:34:42] <FatPhil> For a while, Silicon Graphics' front webpage was nothing but a
[23:34:41] <FatPhil> Ooooh, I'd forgotten this one:
[23:33:14] * Bytram goes back to Win 3.1 and before that to DOS 2.0
[23:33:07] <systemd> ^ 03Halibut - Wikipedia
[23:33:06] <halibut> Few fish are picky eaters. From https://en.wikipedia.org : Animals found in their stomachs include ... other halibut.
[23:32:53] * Bytram spent considerable time on NT 4.0 and on NT 3.51, too.
[23:32:28] <Bytram> lol
[23:32:10] <FatPhil> "That's nothing - If you play it forwards, it installs NT-4.0"
[23:32:09] <FatPhil> "I heard if you play the NT-4.0 CD backwards, you get a satanic message"
[23:32:08] <FatPhil> context: (one of my old usenet .sigs)
[23:31:41] <Bytram> so, I know enough not to just yank the USB stick
[23:31:25] <FatPhil> What's worse, if you play it forwards, it installs NT4.0
[23:31:12] <halibut> FatPhil: I eat small fish. Anchovy ice cream might be good.
[23:30:57] <halibut> Bytram: No. Then it might boot to Windows.
[23:30:14] <FatPhil> BEtter than pineapple pizza and anchovy ice cream
[23:30:13] <Bytram> Ya think it would help if I put the boot USB stick in the new PC?
[23:30:10] <halibut> (true story, but best left for some other time)
[23:29:45] <halibut> The third option is to start pressing it repeatedly starting before when it tells you to press it, and continue doing so until Jimmy Hoffa delivers anchovy pizza and pineapple ice cream to your door.
[23:29:32] <Bytram> LOL!
[23:29:20] <Bender> karma - uefi: -3
[23:29:20] <Subsentient> UEFI--
[23:29:16] <Bender> karma - uefi: -2
[23:29:16] <FatPhil> UEFI--
[23:29:15] <Subsentient> Many modern machines still do that.
[23:28:56] <FatPhil> Way back in the 90s, I remember that you needed to press it after boot - holding it down as you boot wouldn't work. and you had 2 seconds, max.
[23:28:46] <Bytram> tried single, long hold, and several taps. So far no good.
[23:28:39] <chromas> But don't hold too early or it generates a keyboard error and you have to reboot again
[23:28:33] <Subsentient> I've seen Esc, Ins, Del, F2, F8, F9, F10, F11, Enter, Space, End, and Home.
[23:28:12] <halibut> Sometimes a single press will do it; on some I need to be holding it during a certain period.
[23:27:56] <halibut> I can remember F2 and Del, and I seem to recall seeing a few others, but do not remember them.
[23:27:53] <FatPhil> gotta try them all
[23:27:51] <Subsentient> Almost every PC I have uses a different key combo.
[23:27:49] <FatPhil> No two bioses may have the same magic keys!
[23:27:36] <FatPhil> Esc or Ins here!
[23:27:26] <Bytram> The system prompts to press F12 to enter boot options
[23:27:18] <FatPhil> I wouldn't know about this as new machines, and booting, are something I do once every 3 years, but my MSI cubi box got all retarded and sent me back to secure boot mode into window (which no longer exists on my HD) after a power cut.
[23:26:43] <halibut> Figure out whether you need to press or hold F2 or Del or Tab or whatever the magic key is on your system.
[23:26:19] <halibut> FatPhil: You beat me to it.
[23:26:17] <Subsentient> ̙̓̌͒̓͐̉̊d̶̡̢̗͉̍̓͘͠͝ ̷̛̩͐͐̽̋ĩ̶̛̘̮̯̱͛̋̓n̸̻͓̳̯̗͕̿́̅̐̈̂̿̊̚s̸̯̣̘̤̣̜̗̣̏̐̽̓͌͗̃ͅa̷̝̹̺̤͐̑́̓̔̕͘t̸̪͓̭̣̜̰̫̤̋̏̈͋̏̈͛̎̚̕î̶͔̟̱̭̜̰̗̉͝a̸̢̨̞̥̤͇͓͍̕b̴̢͙̃̀̋́ĺ̴̛̦̗̼̤̰̪͌̾̈̏̄̀͘͘ę̷̛̓̎̃̌̓̔̎̑͝.̶͎̮̻̞̍̇͜͝ͅ
[23:26:12] <Subsentient> ̡̡͎̞̞̉h̵̳̜̯̣̃̑́̏̽̉̈í̶̛̺̟̻̰͓̌̿̍͆̇̂n̸̢̜̣̘͉̍g̸̢̨͎̙͙̬̃̅̾̈́̓̉̆͂̊̉ͅṋ̶̛̬̠̣̥͎̺̍ȩ̴̟̥̬̜̙̹̠̾̾s̴̳͕͊͂̈́͘͜s̷͚̹͉̚ ̶̧̬̟͍̞̻̲̳̪̄͗̃͜i̸͈̮̜̋̍͝š̴̡̻̳͕͌̈́̉͂͌̀̍ ̷̡̛͛͊̋ḯ̴͔̏̾̚ņ̷̛͔͇̞̳͉̙̈͝f̵̼͗̆i̵̢̢̧̡͈͔͍̻̞̋̀̈́̄̾͒̔̕ͅň̷͈ḯ̷̝̖̈̈̎͆̽̿ţ̴̖͇̄̄̍ḙ̷͎̋ ̶̫̱͚̫͉̇ͅa̸̼͌̏̌̿́̀͑̏͝n̷
[23:26:10] <FatPhil> probably need to enter the UEFI bios boot options and check which devices it can boot from
[23:26:07] <Subsentient> ͖t̴̡̨̛̤̝̺̭̥̦̅͂̾̈́̒̒̈́̕h̶̢͇̫̫͓̘̺̒͌͗̿̔͘ë̸̛̫͖̬̤̆͘͝ ̷̬͔̽̓̆̌̑ĕ̸̪͕̠̟̖͍v̵̨̺̒̂̌̌͗̓̽̉͝ī̵̖͙̻l̵͉̘̉̈ͅ ̵̻̪͍̈v̵̠̅ơ̷̺̹͚̭̭̳͉̻͓̔̓͗̈́̓̀͘͝i̴͈͚͓͆̏͂̋̒͛͂̚͠͠d̷͓̗͉̱̣̹͂͗͜ͅ ̶̰͔́̈́͋̒͒̂͋̉̓͜o̴̡̩̲͇̬̰͖̪̊͌͗̾̏̓͘͘ͅf̵͇̳̘̓̆͐̕ ̵̲͇̭̩͖̤̼̳́̿͌̕ń̴̨̫̼̱̯ͅo̴̭͓̟̥̙̣̓̋̇̄̄͠t̶͌̒̌͑͗̐̃̕̕
[23:25:58] <Subsentient> ̨̧̜̖̬̘ͅè̶̼̪̺̦̤̹͈̿͜.̶̡̳͙͔͉̣̤͍̽̈́̚͠ ̸̧̭͚͖̲̰̃͋̌̄̋̏T̵̛̯̱̯͇̣̖͔̪̻͓͊́͒͌̂͝͠h̷̬͎͚̼̥͍͆̔̍͂͒̎͜͠ͅê̴̩͔͉̮͉͖̓͊̍͗̏͘͠ͅ ̷̛̹̈́͌̀h̷̨̺̞͇͍͔̱͔̟̃̇̌͆ú̷̢͍͕͍̯̪̞̉̅͛̈̌n̷̺̱̦͖̹̽̿́̑̎ģ̵̂̓͒ê̶̮̬̺̦̖̟̗̟͌̀̑̒̚r̷̫͈͇̫̈́̈ ̴̤̤̙̖̟̟̞͉̾̊̔͗̿͘ͅǫ̸̜̘̘̪͙̭̭͐̈́̾̊̋ͅf̴̩̥̯͎̈̄̇̿̓̎̃͒ ̸̛̣̄̋̀̍
[23:25:57] <Subsentient> ̲̾̓̓̈͗̐̏̓̾ǹ̵̞͇͔̱̱͑̔t̴̤̉ų̶̡̥̘̲̩̻̪̩̊̀a̷͓̘̻̥̯̰͖̲͊̔͋̕͜l̵͎͉̠̼̊l̴͚͆́ý̷̧̢̨̲̼̹̩͕ ̶̹̖̙̮̣͓͖̑̎c̶̤̫̫̙͑͋̏̓͗̌̃̓̽̅e̶͔͍̠̼̫̘̩͐͌̀͛͊͂̓͌͊͝ắ̷͕̩̱̏̍͛͗̒̽s̸͕͔̲̫͔̹͙̤̽̄̚e̷̢̬̠̮̟͈̯̳̰̿̓͑͌ ̸̡̥͎͎̥̠͇̭̝͋̈́͂́̆͗̇̐͐̕͜t̷̡͉͎̩͕͐͌̊ǫ̷̨̛̟̞̻̞̰̥̈́́͑͂̍̐̽͝ͅ ̶̜̦̠͇̳͎͈̿̿̈́́̅̎̌̈́̚b̸͔̿
[23:25:57] <Subsentient> FatPhil: Ạ̷̧̨̡̪̫͇͕̖͆͊͆͂̔͊͛́͜l̸̼͓͂͝l̷̡̥̿͋͋̄̊̈́̉̾̅ ̸̝̣̥͌͂̐́̔̽t̷͎̩̗̚͜͜h̵̺̀̾̅̈a̵̤̠̻͍͇͍͕̺͌ţ̷̗̳̲̱̰̓̾̒̈́̒̆̈́ͅ ̸͉͗͐́́͗̊̀i̷̭͇̘̰̪̜͎̤̞̊ṡ̵̡͓͍̠̰͇̘̦̝͋͒̑̂̑̐ ̸̪̎w̴͙̳̩͉͍̃̿̄̏̆̿̓̒́ī̷͕̙̩̐̋͛͆̚͝l̵͔̀͐̍ḻ̶̭̭͇̙̟̱̩̤̗̒͌͑͗̔̉̔͠ ̸̧̫̤̣͔͈̦̔̏͑̌é̷̫͓̼͓̆͜͝v̸̛̜̣̮̈́̍̂̂͛͐̃͠͝ͅè̸
[23:25:07] <Bytram> "No boot device found. Press any key to reboot the machine."
[23:23:31] <FatPhil> Pushing up the daisywheel printers?
[23:23:11] <chromas> Sì
[23:23:03] <FatPhil> Have I ceased to be?
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[23:22:38] <chromas> nah, that's expired i'n'it? that's why they came out with exfat
[23:22:22] SoyGuest93544 is now known as FatPhil
[23:22:17] <SoyGuest93544> you have to pay me royalties for my allocation tables, though
[23:22:10] <Bytram> obviously, an idea whose time has... passed
[23:21:49] <chromas> that r was unintentional but I'll take credit for the crude humor
[23:21:29] <chromas> Everything supports fart32 though
[23:21:00] <Subsentient> SoyGuest93544: Yes, yes it is. A fat32 partition just for the first stage of my bootloader? Bastards.
[23:19:47] <SoyGuest93544> UEFI is the devil's work
[23:19:22] * Bytram is expecting there might be issues with UEFI
[23:18:53] <Bytram> copy completed, now setting up other laptop to try it out.
[23:18:29] <Bytram> well, there had to have been at least two... it's a pair-a-site, right?
[23:16:03] <halibut> I did not know there were multiple parasites that did that.
[23:15:47] <halibut> ... at least, similar parasites. I am not sure I saw that one in particular.
[23:14:37] <halibut> I have seen articles and shows that mentioned that parasite before. It's actually real.
[23:11:25] <chromas> classic snopes though...answering questions nobody asked
[23:11:07] <chromas> no
[22:59:42] <systemd> ^ 03Does a Photo Show a Parasite That Replaced a Fish's Tongue?
[22:59:41] <Teckla> https://www.snopes.com
[22:54:44] <Bytram> 3.1 GB (halfway) 158 sec
[22:54:02] <Bytram> in ~110 sec
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[22:53:43] <Bytram> and... that's 2GB
[22:52:40] <Bytram> -rw-rw-r-- 1 martyb martyb 6221846528 Mar 5 11:54 Win10_20H2_v2_English_x64.iso
[22:52:39] <Bytram> FWIW:
[22:52:03] <Bytram> sudo dd if=Win10_20H2_v2_English_x64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M conv=fdatasync status=progress
[22:51:57] <halibut> Good luck.
[22:51:53] <halibut> Then, instead of creating a fresh partition and filesystem to make the drive usable afterwards, you can just reverse that step: gunzip -c USB.img.gz | dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4M conv=fdatasync status=progress
[22:51:51] <Bytram> Here we go...
[22:51:12] <Bytram> that makes sense... thanks again(!)
[22:50:44] <halibut> To back up the filesystem, and save a smaller file, try: dd if=/dev/sdb bs=4M conv=fdatasync | gzip -9 -c >USB.img.gz
[22:50:35] <Bytram> /dev/sdb1: LABEL_FATBOOT="USB DISK" LABEL="USB DISK" UUID="2B79-AE19" VERSION="FAT32" TYPE="vfat" USAGE="filesystem" MINIMUM_IO_SIZE="512" PHYSICAL_SECTOR_SIZE="512" LOGICAL_SECTOR_SIZE="512" PART_ENTRY_SCHEME="dos" PART_ENTRY_UUID="2b26235d-01" PART_ENTRY_TYPE="0xc" PART_ENTRY_NUMBER="1" PART_ENTRY_OFFSET="17280" PART_ENTRY_SIZE="30932096" PART_ENTRY_DISK="8:16"
[22:50:29] <Bytram> and hear ya go:
[22:50:19] <Bytram> awesome! tx!
[22:49:38] <halibut> Your first dd is correct -- no slash after of=/dev/sdb
[22:49:27] <Bytram> ahh, got it. Synched write, it's not done until it is DONE
[22:49:05] <halibut> (probably needs sudo)
[22:49:02] <halibut> blkid --info --probe /dev/sdb1 <-- ought to give some information about possible filesystems.
[22:48:58] <chromas> no slash after sdb; it's not a directory
[22:48:35] <Bytram> sudo dd if=Win10_20H2_v2_English_x64.iso of=/dev/sdb/ bs=4M conv=fdatasync status=progress
[22:48:29] <Bytram> or
[22:48:25] <Bytram> sudo dd if=Win10_20H2_v2_English_x64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M conv=fdatasync status=progress
[22:47:57] <halibut> Just makes sure the program does not exit until the data is completely written (as opposed to simply queued to be written from some cached).
[22:47:18] <Bytram> Hmm, that conv=fdatasync is new to me?
[22:46:29] <halibut> (of=/dev/sdb)
[22:46:27] <Bytram> oh, and pardon my ignorance, how do I find out what filesystem is on a device? Is there something like "lsfs"?
[22:46:21] <halibut> (INSERT_CHAR_HERE becomes ``b'' in your case)
[22:46:04] <halibut> That should write the ISO directly to the USB device.
[22:45:50] <halibut> Something like this: dd if=Win10_20H2_v2_English_x64.iso of=/dev/sd<INSERT_CHAR_HERE> bs=4M conv=fdatasync status=progress
[22:45:40] <halibut> Since it is new, and most of the bytes are zero, you can store a fairly small version of the drive by piping it through gzip.
[22:45:21] <Bytram> So, how do I get the ISO to the USB stick? /dev/sdb
[22:44:44] <halibut> Storing an image is an easy way to restore the partition and filesystem on the drive when you are done using it as a bootable CD.
[22:44:24] <halibut> In my experience, new USB drives come with a functional single MS-DOS partition, formatted with FAT32 or vfat or similar Windows filesystem. Within that filesystem, all bytes are zero.
[22:44:14] <Bytram> nothing on the USB stick I want to keep.
[22:43:43] <halibut> dd if=/dev/sd<INSERT_CHAR_HERE> of=USB_DRIVE_IMAGE.img bs=4M status=progress conv=fdatasync
[22:43:19] <halibut> For a backup, assuming you have significantly more hard drive space USB drive space, just copy another image back:
[22:43:06] <SedBot> <Bytram> halibut: Thanks for that! It's a brand-new, never-before-used USB stick. Hmmm I wonder if/how it was formatted?
[22:43:06] <Bytram> s/att/matt/
[22:42:58] <Bytram> halibut: Thanks for that! It's a brand-new, never-before-used USB stick. Hmmm I wonder if/how it was foratted?
[22:42:27] <halibut> Something like this: dd if=Win10_20H2_v2_English_x64.iso of=/dev/sd<INSERT_CHAR_HERE> bs=4M conv=fdatasync status=progress
[22:41:12] <halibut> Bytram: Multiple sites suggest copying directly to the USB device should work (no need for a specific partition). Consider backing up the current contents before doing it, though, to make it easier to revert it to a usable drive.
[22:27:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Guy Who Literally Coined ‘Net Neutrality’ Now Works for Biden" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:27:33] <Runaway1956> =submit https://gizmodo.com
[22:27:15] <Runaway1956> Hey guys - maybe Biden is going to get one thing right?
[22:25:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Torvalds Warns the World: Don’t Use the Linux 5.12-rc1 Kernel" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:25:52] <Runaway1956> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[22:02:43] <Bytram> Win10_20H2_v2_English_x64.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CCCOMA_X64FRE_EN-US_DV9' (bootable)
[22:02:43] <Bytram> martyb@E6410-001:~/Downloads$ file Win10_20H2_v2_English_x64.iso
[22:02:42] <Bytram> '(coreutils) dd invocation'
[22:02:19] <Bytram> SoyGuest93544: I have no idea...hmmm
[21:55:27] <Runaway1956> Actually, it's Ground Chuck loaf today - next week, Ground Alice
[21:54:53] <Runaway1956> not to mention half the spice rack, lol
[21:54:42] <Runaway1956> and I sneaked in a whole cup of 1 minute quaker oats
[21:54:23] <Runaway1956> 2 eggs become 5 eggs
[21:54:06] <Runaway1956> Easy Peasy Meat Loaf, made according to Dear Wife's instructions, and some cheating on my part when her back was turned
[21:46:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AdGuard Names 6,000+ Web Trackers That Use CNAME Chicanery - https://sylnt.us
[21:44:46] <SoyGuest93544> Can you loopback mount it and sniff around in linux?
[21:44:24] <SoyGuest93544> is the ISO a block device image, or a filesystem?
[21:43:00] <SoyGuest93544> Bytram: the Cambridge that grew around a bridge over the river Cam, obviously. All other ones are fake.
[21:26:13] <chromas> ubuntu was nice enough to not package it up for you
[21:24:47] <chromas> "A Linux program to create Windows USB stick installer from a Windows DVD or an image"
[21:24:38] <chromas> looks like the tool you want is called woeusb
[21:24:32] <chromas> I guess balena is really just a simple dd gui. lame
[21:23:34] <Bytram> BI5-ish
[21:23:12] <Bytram> Just because you can, does not mean you should. UGH!!!!
[21:22:25] <requerdanos> Electron is a retarded kit containing chrome browser in a sandbox, that lets you write "programs" in javascript to run on it as if they were real programs
[21:22:04] <chromas> it's a development platform that lets you make web-based applications packaged up like real ones
[21:21:36] <Bytram> what *is* electron?
[21:21:15] <chromas> balenaEtcher is supposed to be a good alternative to Rufus but yuckkk, it runs on electron. wtf
[21:19:45] <chromas> That often happens with Windows
[21:19:32] <systemd> ^ 03New York woman finds empty apartment behind bathroom mirror
[21:19:31] <Runaway1956> https://www.upi.com
[21:18:55] * Bytram feels like he is assembling a 1,000 piece puzzle. Am starting to get splotches that look like "water", "sky", and "trees", but the whole picture has still not yet come together.
[21:17:01] <Bytram> nope
[21:16:59] <Bytram> Cambridge: England? Massachusetts?
[21:16:56] <chromas> Do you have wine installed?
[21:16:28] <Bytram> So, the question remains: How can I take a Windows 10 .ISO file and make something bootable; while working from a Linux machine?
[21:15:10] <SoyGuest93544> I had a mate back in cambridge back in the 90s who used a jornada with debian as his portable machine. was pretty good.
[21:13:14] <SedBot> <Bytram> ISTR that hard disk cost about $250 at the time, too.
[21:13:14] <Bytram> s/ISRT/ISTR/
[21:12:59] <Bytram> ISRT that hard disk cost about $250 at the time, too.
[21:11:54] <Bytram> My Seagate ST-251 hard disk was 40 MB. The max that DOS could address at the time was 32 MB. So had to partition the drive into a 32 MB C drive and a 8 MB D drive.
[21:11:12] <chromas> Who is this mysterious fellow?
[21:11:08] <systemd> ^ 03The Mysterious Dutch Railways HP Jornada 680e
[21:11:06] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[21:10:14] <Bytram> I recall messing with a partition table back in DOS 3.0
[21:10:13] * chromas assumes it went paper cards, paper tape, hard drives, then floppies
[21:09:20] <chromas> Didn't they predate partition tables? They should've made HDDs boot like floppies then
[21:09:16] <Bytram> yep
[21:09:13] <Bytram> and then the file system "sits on" the comms between the CPU and the drive
[21:08:43] <SoyGuest93544> FDDs didn't have partition tables, that's why they were treated differently
[21:08:23] <chromas> Good. Windows sucks
[21:08:12] <Bytram> Actually, in this case, it would be a different laptop. I'm holding onto Ubuntu Mate for a while longer, I expect.
[21:07:58] * chromas blames I, BM
[21:07:40] <chromas> dunno. I've seen USB FDD and USB HDD though
[21:07:08] <SedBot> <chromas> Are you reinstalling Windows on your crotch heater?
[21:07:08] <chromas> s/lap/crotch heater/
[21:07:03] <systemd> ^ 03How to Get and Install Windows 10 Starting from Win 7 Pro OEM License? - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[21:07:01] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[21:07:00] <SoyGuest93544> my machines have in their boot devices options "hard disk" and "USB hard disk" as separate things, but I thought "USB flash drive" and "USB hard disk" were treated the same.
[21:06:44] <Bytram> yes.
[21:06:38] <SedBot> <Bytram> <chromas> Are you reinstalling Windows on your lap?top
[21:06:38] <Bytram> chromas: s/$/top/
[21:06:21] <chromas> Are you reinstalling Windows on your lap?
[21:05:47] * Bytram does not know the particulars at the low level, but can kinsa see how they are different enough to not be drop-in replacable, but could be coerced to work.
[21:04:57] <chromas> some systems let you boot a usb drive as a floppy or an hdd
[21:04:42] <SoyGuest93544> yup
[21:04:29] <Bytram> whereas, an IDE drive, for example, has an entirely different communications mechanism when taking to the disk?
[21:04:18] <SoyGuest93544> they should all be "block storage devices" but perhaps booting is a special thing
[21:04:15] <chromas> it's not a filesystem, but the bios/uefi expects things to be just so in order to boot from it
[21:03:46] <Bytram> USB -- Universal Serial Bus
[21:03:14] <chromas> I haven't tried booting a usb hdd. Maybe I should, to see how it works
[21:03:12] <Bytram> USB is at heart, a communications "protocol" as opposed to a file system, rght?
[21:02:40] <chromas> don't think so
[21:02:13] <Bytram> USB -- does it matter whether the USB is an SSD or spinning rust?
[21:02:09] <chromas> usb drives boot like floppies, I think
[21:01:31] <SoyGuest93544> Ah, I've only ever booted linux images, and they can be burnt to any medium
[21:01:28] <chromas> maybe runs on wine
[21:01:17] <chromas> if you grab a copy of rufus it can generate the proper image file for usb booting, but I think it only runs on windows
[21:00:44] <chromas> linux ones can do that because they're "hybrid" images that use both boot thingers
[21:00:31] <chromas> usb drives use a different booting method
[21:00:04] <Bytram> dd if=/home/martyb/Downloads/Win10_20H2_v2_English_x64.iso of=/dev/sdb/ bs=1g count=16 status=progress
[20:58:49] <SoyGuest93544> is there a windows tool for wiping to 0 all unused sectors of a filesystem? I'd like to backup the win10 that will be on the laptop I've just bought onto a smaller device - so I want gzip to have the best chance of compressing it.
[20:56:05] <Bytram> that helps, ty! ...
[20:55:33] <SoyGuest93544> but as a block device, nope
[20:55:23] <SoyGuest93544> to the bios, and secure boot settings, possibly
[20:55:03] <Bytram> Is as ISB stick somehow different from a USB (spinning rust) drive?
[20:54:01] <SoyGuest93544> Bytram: it should work that way
[20:53:11] <Bytram> Why can't I just use dd and copy the a Win 10 .iso to a USB stick and have it be immediately bootable?
[20:51:52] <Bytram> Hmmm, isn't an .ISO file supposed to be an image of a disk?
[20:46:25] <chromas> Lots of celebrities have much exaggerated rumors of death
[20:46:13] <chromas> is that really worth a sub tho?
[20:44:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03No, Elon Musk is Not Dead" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:44:25] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.thedrive.com
[20:43:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03‘Hovering Ship’ Photographed Off U.K. Coast in Rare Optical Illusion - National" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:42:59] <Runaway1956> =submit https://globalnews.ca
[20:40:02] <systemd> ^ 03Turkey crashes through window into California dentist's office
[20:40:00] <Runaway1956> https://www.upi.com
[20:31:41] <Runaway1956> No president Buttplug
[20:31:32] <systemd> ^ 03REPORT: Obama Said Buttigieg Couldn’t Win Presidency Because He’s ‘Gay’ And ‘Short’
[20:31:31] <Runaway1956> https://nationalfile.com
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[19:35:42] <chromas> Probably, but you only get in trouble if you mess with big moneys
[19:33:01] <requerdanos> Didn't McAfee just get arrested for doing the same thing, but with cryptocurrencies?
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[19:31:22] <chromas> Conspiracy time: Dr Seuss books pulled from retail are suddenly available on eBay for hundreds to thousands of dollars each. What if the publisher's purposely Streisanding to get that sweet black market markup?
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[19:16:22] <SoyGuest93544> I should read Schneier's blog more often
[19:16:03] <Bender> karma - halibut: 12
[19:16:03] <SoyGuest93544> halibut++ thanks for forwarding that here - nice one
[19:15:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google-Free /E/ OS is Now Selling Preloaded Phones in the US, Starting at $380 - https://sylnt.us - now-with-100%-less-Google
[19:13:15] <halibut> I hope the people the sign is warning at least sterilized the equipment before /and/ after.
[19:11:12] <halibut> Text: Your threat model is not my threat model, hospital edition Image: https://pbs.twimg.com
[19:10:54] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[19:10:53] <halibut> Posted on Schneier's blog: https://twitter.com
[19:07:59] <boru> It's called WinCE for a reason.
[19:06:47] <chromas> Windows CE, rounded case. I'd say that one's the uglier
[18:45:24] <SoyGuest93544> no idea which is crappier/older
[18:45:05] <systemd> ^ 03COMPAQ C-SERIES First Professional HANDHELD PC Model: 2000c
[18:45:00] <SoyGuest93544> not watching that vid now, but I did notice this on the auction site: https://www.osta.ee
[18:27:16] <systemd> ^ 03Testing an IBM PC110 Running Windows 95
[18:27:14] <chromas> Found SoyGuest93544's new ultraportable lap https://www.youtube.com
[18:22:37] <chromas> (examples include "verse" for "voice", "terlet" for "toilet", "voice" for "verse", "boid" for "bird")
[18:21:11] <chromas> Ask Soylent: Is the Archie bunker-style accent where "er" and "oi" are swapped real or is it just a comedy thing?
[17:35:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03U.S. Says John McAfee Indicted Over Fraudulent Cryptocurrency Schemes" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:35:13] <SoyGuest93544> =asub http://www.msn.com
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[16:46:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Black Death: A New Culprit? - https://sylnt.us
[16:42:44] <c0lo> Until it's not shorted, not gonna happen.
[16:38:40] <SoyGuest93544> I thought the whole point of a pump and dump was that it goes up first!
[16:38:28] <systemd> ^ 03ZeroHedge ( https://www.zerohedge.com )
[16:38:26] <SoyGuest93544> http://feedproxy.google.com
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[16:34:24] <SoyCow639> =asub https://arstechnica.com
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[16:23:11] <c0lo> Sometime too good of a thing.
[16:22:41] <c0lo> Freedom of expression, yeah.
[16:10:03] <SoyGuest93544> He started expressing cow genes, and developed 3 extra stomachs
[16:08:59] <c0lo> Is there such a thing? Too much burger for FatPhil?
[16:08:12] <SoyGuest93544> Fed him too much burger
[16:07:40] <c0lo> SoyGuest93544, what did you do with FatPhil?
[16:02:55] <pinchy> jiggabooian
[16:01:56] <c0lo> Technically, Lando wasn't African American. A galaxy far-far away.
[16:01:16] <Fnord666> Sucks when the rules of engagement say you have to let them shoot first.
[15:57:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Senators Call for 100Mbps Minimum Broadband Standard - ExtremeTech" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:57:10] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.extremetech.com
[15:54:25] <SoyGuest93544> it was a pre-reaction
[15:54:04] <Runaway1956> Of course Han shot first - only an idiot waits to be shot at first!
[15:53:39] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03World's Oldest Known Wild Bird Has Another Chick at Age of 70" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:53:35] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.bbc.com
[15:50:54] <requerdanos> Lando was only in eps five and six, not in the original
[15:49:34] <c0lo> Han shot first
[15:48:06] <Runaway1956> I don't remember any African Americans, so that makes it racisss?
[15:47:42] <Runaway1956> The original Star Wars was more diverse than anyone could have asked for - tentacled critters, androids and androgynous people, a Wookie, and so much more
[15:46:42] <systemd> ^ 03Racist trolls may think they own Star Wars, but the saga's diversity issues are not cut and dried
[15:46:41] <Runaway1956> https://www.theguardian.com
[15:46:30] <Runaway1956> Oh crap - Star Wars is racisssss!
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[14:48:43] <Bytram> SoyCow639: I think that Parler one had already been submitted
[14:48:28] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Dish Tries to Disrupt SpaceX’s Starlink Plans as Companies Fight at FCC" (25p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:48:26] <SoyCow639> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[14:48:19] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Microsoft Issues Emergency Patches for 4 Exploited 0-days in Exchange" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:48:17] <SoyCow639> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[14:48:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Parler Sues Amazon (Again), Claims AWS Ban Sank a Billion-dollar Valuation" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:48:07] <SoyCow639> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[14:48:04] <systemd> Submit one or more links plus some text if you want
[14:48:04] <SoyCow639> =asub
[14:47:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Comcast Hides Upload Speeds Deep Inside its Infuriating Ordering System" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:47:54] <SoyCow639> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[14:47:45] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03100Mbps Uploads and Downloads Should be US Broadband Standard, Senators Say" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:47:42] <SoyCow639> =asub https://arstechnica.com
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[14:19:39] <systemd> ^ 03The Hacker News
[14:19:38] <Teckla> https://thehackernews.com
[14:18:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How to Get and Install Windows 10 Starting from Win 7 Pro OEM License? - https://sylnt.us || China Makes Anal Swab Covid Tests Compulsory for Foreign Arrivals - https://sylnt.us - literal-PITA
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[13:54:42] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.firstpost.com
[13:45:53] <Runaway1956> Detroit Free Press - this content is only available to subscribers
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[11:45:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This is the Fastest Random-Number Generator Ever Built - https://sylnt.us - pick-a-number,-any-number
[11:16:04] * Ingar charges his EMP
[11:15:44] <Ingar> as they say, wifi is "up there"
[10:57:33] <boru> I think a lot of people see full wifi signal and expect high bandwidth, rather than analysing what channel the AP is on, and if there are overlaps with that.
[10:20:08] <Subsentient> Though, I still prefer ethernet because of the consistent performance.
[10:19:41] <Subsentient> Ehh, wifi is usually good enough. I don't have a lot of reception issues, and I've lived in many places. What ends up getting you is having a shitty wifi card that can't handle 802.11/ac or up.
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[09:07:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Source of Hazardous High-Energy Particles Located in the Sun - https://sylnt.us - Actual-Death-Star
[08:23:23] <chromas> and anything else is too esoteric for normies like myself
[08:23:04] <Bender> karma - wifi: -5
[08:23:04] <chromas> wifi--
[08:23:03] <kyonko--> for voip
[08:22:56] <chromas> nothing better than wired ethernet though
[08:22:40] <kyonko--> wired ethernet is as good as it will get with freedos
[08:22:38] <progo> also there are quite a number of simple full screen TTY editors for linux. one probably looks a lot like edit.com
[08:22:13] <kyonko--> freedos is never going to support modern hardware, ever
[08:22:09] <chromas> dunno, but if I remember correctly it was just qbasic in a special generic mode
[08:21:44] <kyonko--> wait
[08:21:39] <progo> did edit.com/edit.exe ever ship with long filename API support?
[08:21:37] <chromas> may as well do it in electron then
[08:21:23] <systemd> ^ 03DOSEMU
[08:21:22] <progo> https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:21:12] <progo> chromas: I'm sure it runs in a DOS compatibility layer with optional CPU emulation if needed, under linux
[08:20:59] <chromas> would be better than nano
[08:20:50] <chromas> someone needs to port it to linux
[08:20:16] <chromas> EDIT.COM is where it's at
[08:19:55] <progo> I only meant to mention it in passing with my 'I don't emacs' comment
[08:19:22] <progo> Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code are completely separate projects. VS Code is a mostly free open source IDE that unfortunately is built on Electron, but is otherwise excellent for many kinds of projects
[08:18:27] <kyonko--> Windows Forms?
[08:18:14] <progo> kyonko--: .net, Windows Forms, ASP.NET, Xbox, all that crap
[08:17:59] <chromas> you can install plugins for other stuff though
[08:17:57] <kyonko--> microsoft ecosystem?
[08:17:44] <progo> Visual Studio only ships for Windows and only with support for making Microsoft ecosystem projects.
[08:17:03] <kyonko--> the symbolics lispmachines were impressive for their era
[08:16:51] <chromas> wasn't vs even more betterer?
[08:16:29] <progo> VS Code has a lot going against it: Microsoft owns it, and it's built on Electron. but VS Code is excellent
[08:16:29] <kyonko--> well, emacs has irc
[08:16:23] <kyonko--> lol rms
[08:16:06] <progo> (unrelated, I never learned emacs)
[08:15:55] <progo> I never liked any word processor
[08:15:48] <progo> I remember reading ~10 years ago that RMS always wanted Emacs to be a fully programmable word processor and not just a programmable text editor
[08:15:21] <progo> didn't he?
[08:14:28] <chromas> The sad part is, he never got his printer drivers
[08:13:46] <progo> well, the overt SJW shit, and the fact that they unjustly kicked out their founder
[08:13:17] <progo> was a room monitor several years earlier
[08:13:08] <progo> yeah, that's why I stopped volunteering
[08:11:28] <SoyGuest93544> "The annual technology and social justice conference ..." --https://www.fsf.org/news/guardian-projects-nathan-freitas-to-keynote-libreplanet-2021
[07:38:50] <progo> I wouldn't be surprised if they've glued jitsi and shoutcast together by now
[07:37:05] <progo> it's not super low-latency but it does keep things simple for MOST of the people involved
[07:36:42] <progo> 1) presenter(s) connect to a jitsi meeting hosted by the room moderator. presenters share the screen. 2) room moderator forwards their desktop capture with sound to a shoutcast server 3) audience views shoutcast livestream
[07:35:57] <progo> btw, I do like FSF's broadcasting setup last year:
[07:34:46] <progo> the disruptive people will self-select out and not attend, to begin with
[07:34:32] <progo> less
[07:34:13] <SoyGuest93544> So, is the conference going to be more or less of a trainwreck than this; https://cms.zerohedge.com
[07:33:42] <progo> this is the group that threw Richard Stallman under the bus for being an aspie and acting like one
[07:33:10] <progo> they were simultaneous in person and IRC before that
[07:33:01] <progo> all guest participation is basically IRC mediated starting last year
[07:32:47] <progo> now I think I need to attend just to watch the IRC trolls
[07:31:57] <c0lo> Nothing wrong buddy. Sexual images in public spaces shall never be offended!
[07:31:46] <progo> if you tell them they'll just ban you
[07:31:35] <SoyGuest93544> Their own CoC violates their own CoC
[07:31:34] <progo> lol
[07:31:21] <SoyGuest93544> Their own CoC could offend, and comments on such sexual images, by banning them.
[07:30:59] <SoyGuest93544> Harassment includes offensive verbal comments related to .. sexual images in public spaces
[07:30:26] <SoyGuest93544> "Harassment includes offensive verbal comments related to gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, age, body size, race, religion, nationality, sexual images in public spaces ..."
[07:30:20] <SoyGuest93544> I'm glad to see their English language CoC is written by someone who can't write English properly.
[07:28:49] <c0lo> Because who doen't like surprises?
[07:28:12] <progo> they always publish a session list, on the web site. but it seems like that's been later and later every year
[07:27:52] <progo> **2 weeks out!
[07:27:21] <progo> ?
[07:27:15] <progo> is it normal to be three weeks out from a 2 day con and not have a list of sessions/
[07:26:44] <SoyGuest93544> second - safe space policy. OK, so that's what won't be there, what about *will* be there?
[07:26:28] <c0lo> ou know nothing about death threats, chromas. Question is, do you want to?
[07:26:09] <SoyGuest93544> first - register. OK, why should I register, how about you tell me what to expect there...
[07:25:45] <SoyGuest93544> I like the order of the menu on that page
[07:25:06] <chromas> Practically a death threat
[07:24:57] <chromas> Your mockery is hurtful and makes me feel unsafe
[07:24:24] <systemd> ^ 03LibrePlanet 2021
[07:24:23] <progo> advertising home page: https://libreplanet.org
[07:23:53] * progo builds a safe space in his living room in case the conference gets too roudy
[07:23:17] <chromas> We'll send you some freedom right away
[07:23:07] <systemd> ^ 03LibrePlanet 2021 Registration | Free Software Foundation
[07:23:06] <progo> FSF LibrePlanet 2021 registration site is "empowered" by FSF's CiviCRM product. not "powered by" but "empowered by". https://my.fsf.org
[07:22:45] <SoyGuest93544> started by cutting the burger clean in 2 down the middle, and it instantly 9-11ed
[07:21:39] <SoyGuest93544> everything was portrait mode, though - taller than it was wide
[07:21:26] <chromas> that's a lot of potato
[07:21:07] <SoyGuest93544> 720p
[07:19:22] <chromas> was it 240i?
[07:11:29] <SoyGuest93544> I think it was the pile of chips with it that killed me
[07:05:46] <chromas> oh, one-pound. lame
[07:05:34] <chromas> You had a four-pound spicy burger?
[07:04:33] <SoyGuest93544> Blimey, I wish I'd been awake 2 hours ago to contribute "that's what I had for lunch yesterday, and I'm still stuffed" to the conversation.
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[06:45:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Working on Advanced Hearing Aids - https://sylnt.us - can-we-hear-you-now?
[06:03:15] <SedBot> <c0lo> the orange-man and his family got theirs in Jan
[06:03:15] <c0lo> s/pra/ora/
[06:03:04] <c0lo> the prange-man and his family got theirs in Jan
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[06:02:08] <c0lo> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
[05:56:48] <c0lo> They shoulda asked nice, 2-3 weeks down the road ozzies will start producing the same vaccine in 1M/mo.
[05:54:32] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Australia Appeals After Italy, EU Block AstraZeneca Vaccines" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:54:29] <c0lo> =submit breaking-promisses-souls-and-news https://www.aljazeera.com
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[05:48:25] <chromas> and then go to bed
[05:01:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, i gotta hit the sack
[05:01:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh this ain't bk. it's bells burger basket. best fucking burgers in TN. so juicy you blind the person sitting across from you.
[05:01:05] * kyonko-- shrugs
[05:01:03] <kyonko--> after covid19 I can't stomach bk flame broiled
[05:00:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> saves having to worry about separate lunch n dinner. bachelor efficiency.
[04:57:50] <kyonko--> I had to go home
[04:57:30] <kyonko--> ASS BLAST I GOT
[04:57:25] <kyonko--> shit one time I did that at work in the 2000's
[04:57:15] <kyonko--> 3?????
[04:56:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's also best enjoyed about 2pm and don't plan on eating for the rest of the day, possibly not breakfast the next day either.
[04:55:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i eat one burger per meal every time i go out for burgers. it's got three half pound patties on it but it's only one burger.
[04:53:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> sold, i'm hitting the king tomorrow
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[02:35:19] * Runaway1956 thinks that AzumaHazuki would eat the whole sausage
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[02:02:45] <chromas> No true American only eats one burger per meal
[01:54:23] <AzumaHazuki> i could probably eat half of that if i were seriously hungry but the whole one? ye gods
[01:54:09] <AzumaHazuki> ...so burger king is apparently going to be making a 1-pound spicy burger. 4 patties, 2 slices of cheese, and some sort of hot pepper sauce
[01:46:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX SN10 Launches and Lands Successfully -- Then Explodes - https://sylnt.us - Brings-its-own-celebratory-fireworks
[01:43:10] <chromas> Maybe the heatsink needs more lube
[01:42:32] <chromas> SoyGuest93544: did you check it for dust?
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[01:12:01] <Runaway1956> https://www.thedrive.com
[01:11:51] <Runaway1956> To my eyes, this is an odd-looking aircraft
[01:07:37] <Runaway1956> That Garcia guy speaks pretty good English!
[01:07:12] <systemd> ^ 03Dallas Police Officer Charged With 2 Counts of Capital Murder
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[00:26:39] <Runaway1956> https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com
[00:26:33] <Runaway1956> If you're in Auckland or New Zealand, you might consider moving to higher ground