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[00:23:43] <kyonko3> I think it really _IS_ that hard to run a site
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[00:24:19] <kyonko3> I remember craigslist before it modernized
[00:25:17] <FatPhil> I remember internet before craigslist
[00:25:27] <kyonko3> I'm not sure when slashdot started, but I dreamed of such a site as a pre-teen
[00:25:55] <FatPhil> I remember it in ~1998, when I was working for Nokia the first time.
[00:26:10] <kyonko3> I had an ericsson in 1998
[00:26:10] <FatPhil> Was used by the contractors who did no work.
[00:26:43] <FatPhil> we had a chart on the coffee-room wall which was mobile phone market share, month to month
[00:27:01] <kyonko3> developing markets \o/
[00:27:16] <FatPhil> not in 98, that was still 1st world
[00:27:28] <kyonko3> america is going back into the womb
[00:27:34] <kyonko3> look at texa
[00:28:29] <kyonko3> slashdot was coded in perl, or was it all a crazy mishmash?
[00:29:03] <kyonko3> if slashdot had allowed uploading of binaries, it would have been 4chan before 4chan
[00:29:32] <requerdanos> cars would have been able to fly we'd have had airplanes in the 1800s
[00:29:48] <kyonko3> it didn't work untill the wright brothers tried
[00:29:55] <kyonko3> then everyone became a copy cat
[00:40:45] <kyonko3> https://www.reddit.com
[00:40:49] <systemd> ^ 03r/irc - What is up DALnet's ass?
[00:42:48] <kyonko3> https://www.reddit.com
[00:42:51] <systemd> ^ 03r/irc - Repost: Still Looking for an old mIRC script, Bounty Offered
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[01:06:45] <Bytram> grrr. screen lost my kinit context
[01:07:49] <Bytram> servers bounced (hydrogen and fluorine)
[01:08:36] <Bytram> please let us know, here, if anyone sees any more CSS issues
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[01:26:26] <kyonko3> https://github.com
[01:26:27] <systemd> ^ 03mcpcpc/kirc
[01:29:09] <kyonko3> it seems irssi is buggy on ubuntu with the cli flag -c
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[01:35:39] <kyonko3> what happened to SoyCow?
[01:36:00] <kyonko3> Was it changed because AzumaHazuki?
[01:36:10] <kyonko3> weight, udders
[01:36:21] <requerdanos> SoyCownnnn is from the web client, SoyGuestnnnnn is a function of IRC services.
[01:36:29] <kyonko3> hmmm
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[02:28:06] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[02:28:08] <systemd> ^ 03SpaceX Starlink launch aborted, next window opens Monday: How to watch ( https://www.cnet.com )
[02:31:23] <Bytram> 666 "Update: Sunday night's Starlink launch has been aborted. A backup launch window opens tomorrow, Monday March 1 at 5:15 p.m. PT. We'll have the livestream link here on Monday. "
[02:39:49] <kyonko3> launch window?
[02:39:57] <kyonko3> so its WINOPS now?
[02:40:14] <kyonko3> open the window and let maxwell's demon in!
[02:41:29] <kyonko3> THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY WANTS THE REMOVAL OF QADDAFI AND ASSAD FROM POWER
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[04:13:11] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.rt.com all your planes are belong to us
[04:13:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Plane Forced to Land in Sudan After CAT ATTACKS Pilot Mid-air, ‘Hijacking’ Cockpit" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:23:12] <chromas> Airman Meow
[04:39:53] <pinchy> the international jew wants blah blah
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[04:42:24] <Runaway1956> =submit https://gizmodo.com
[04:42:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Verizon Tells Users to Turn Off 5G to Save Battery, Regrets It" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[05:30:14] <c0lo> =submit https://www.eff.org
[05:30:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03EFF Joins Dozens of Organizations Urging More Government Transparency" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:37:40] <c0lo> =submit https://www.wired.com
[05:37:43] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Far-Right Platform Gab Has Been Hacked" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:41:37] <AzumaHazuki> oh no, how completely uncivil of the hackers :|
[05:41:56] <AzumaHazuki> don't they know that hurting peoples' feelings justifies things like coup attempts? :|
[06:21:46] <c0lo> https://www.bbc.com
[06:21:48] <systemd> ^ 03CPAC: Trump rules out new political party in speech to conservatives
[06:22:35] <c0lo> Translation: Trump is sure he has the support of more than 50% of GOP
[06:25:49] <chromas> Geriatrics on Patrol
[06:27:18] <AzumaHazuki> he likely does, given how many of them sold their souls to him
[06:27:38] <AzumaHazuki> i hate being right about these things dammit. but nooooo, no one listens to Cassandra^W Marissa
[07:16:14] <c0lo> https://pbs.twimg.com
[07:17:21] <AzumaHazuki> he does, and he's sold 70+ million people on the idea. an entire 1/5 of the country's population, almost
[07:17:48] <AzumaHazuki> remember that jibe Rove made way back when, about the reality-based vs actor-based community? that was "might makes right" in longhand
[07:18:25] <AzumaHazuki> get just a few of these nuts in the right places via stochastic terrorism tactics--which is what the 6 January coup attempt was--and the entire country's fragile institutional framework crumbles to dust
[07:29:36] <c0lo> https://www.citizensforethics.org
[07:29:37] <systemd> ^ 03Trump reported making more than $1.6 billion while president - CREW
[07:31:52] <AzumaHazuki> good, maybe he can pay off his debts, back taxes, and all those people he fucked over for services and goods
[07:39:21] <c0lo> https://www.politico.com
[07:39:22] <systemd> ^ 03Bill Cassidy warns it’s dangerous for GOP to ‘idolize’ Trump
[07:40:22] <AzumaHazuki> they don't care, is my guess. they're so spineless, soulless, and valueless that they literally cannot comprehend why
[07:46:23] <c0lo> https://weather.com
[07:46:26] <systemd> ^ 03Severe Storms and Flooding Rain Through Overnight - Videos from The Weather Channel
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[07:50:41] <Subsentient> I always get interesting answers when I ask this question. I'd love to see what SN says. https://soylentnews.org
[07:50:43] <systemd> ^ 03Journal of Subsentient (1111)
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[07:54:10] <SoyGuest93544> Clarissa: this one? https://www.spin.com I don't remember that at the time - that would be pretty scary if it's true. But it's NYT, so all bets are off.
[07:54:10] <systemd> ^ 03Karl Rove Responds To The National
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[08:01:53] <AzumaHazuki> Subsentient: "Somewhere in time / I will find you and love you again." It fits the avatar, certainly
[08:02:16] <AzumaHazuki> ...and this weird feeling i've got of being lost in the timeline
[08:03:23] <RunawayXXXX> "When we are both cats." In a Penelope Cruz voice?
[08:04:42] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: That's beautiful. Hopefully the rest of the replies are as interesting.
[08:05:22] * Subsentient is torn between two sentences for himself, hasn't decided
[08:05:37] <AzumaHazuki> it's not as pretty as it seems. The "real" Hazuki actually did find the one she loved...only to find out the other woman was some sort of eldritch abomination with the morality of a little girl playing with dolls
[08:05:45] <AzumaHazuki> one who probably couldn't even comprehend real love
[08:06:22] <AzumaHazuki> ...and who was very likely responsible for creating her, and possibly bisecting her timeline, making two of her in parallel-tracking universes, one of whom may never have made it back home
[08:07:17] <AzumaHazuki> the story's Broken Aesop is basically "life isn't fair, sometimes the one you love will destroy you utterly and not even be human enough to comprehend how or why, and there is nothing you can do about it."
[08:07:19] <Subsentient> Yikes. Yeah that's tragic. So I guess the words now carry a kind of sick irony.
[08:08:03] <Subsentient> I've just elected to power up my misanthropy like Goku and die alone. :^)
[08:08:04] <AzumaHazuki> for the extra cherry on top of the irony sundae, the ex in college who made me watch this with her because Hazuki reminded her of me did basically the real world equivalent, with a side order of abuse!
[08:08:52] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: Oh lovely. Yeah every relationship I've had has ended horribly. It has made my already existent trust issues much, much worse.
[08:09:05] <AzumaHazuki> oh, and the story itself precisely parallels something that happened to me when i was the real thing's age, with a girl named Rebecca. All I could think was "why did you wake me up? why couldn't i have just slept forever and never known this about myself?"
[08:11:05] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: Yeah.... Well in 10 years when the Orange Führer throws us in Auschwitz 2.0 Electric Boogaloo, I'll probably be hoping you escaped.
[08:11:40] <AzumaHazuki> the 2022 midterms are the end. i have to be gone by then. that's when it's all over
[08:12:17] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: Did you notice the CPAC conference stage was in the shape of an Odal rune?
[08:12:24] <AzumaHazuki> yes. yes i fucking did
[08:12:40] <AzumaHazuki> they're not even fucking trying to hide it any longer
[08:12:46] <Subsentient> My thoughts exactly.
[08:13:02] <Subsentient> I hope I don't live to see what's coming.
[08:13:30] <Subsentient> My already beaten and battered heart can't take more human evil.
[08:13:58] <Subsentient> Well that settles it, I know my sentence.
[08:14:08] <Subsentient> It's a quote from the band Be'lakor.
[08:14:13] <Subsentient> "Beyond my eyelids, I have died"
[08:14:29] <AzumaHazuki> can you escape, possibly? Canada isn't perfect but it should have another couple of decades of life left in it...
[08:15:36] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: I don't know if that will be safe either. I'd think somewhere more like New Zealand. But of course the more desirable the nation, the harder to get into them.
[08:16:11] <RunawayXXXX> In the midst of all this existential angst, did anyone notice the comment counters on the frontpage are not working, and the mod-points have gone missing?
[08:16:30] <AzumaHazuki> I'm aiming for Halifax eventually. did you know it's one of the single most lesbian-friendly places on the planet?
[08:16:37] <AzumaHazuki> for whatever reason it's, like, the Subaru of cities
[08:16:46] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: That's encouraging, I hope it works out for you :^)
[08:17:11] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: I don't think I have the *means* to escape honestly, but I've definitely considered it many times.
[08:17:20] <AzumaHazuki> i do too, but it's going to be ages...it's looking like i can't even get to canada until mid 2022, since my mother's coming up here to settle down since retirement
[08:17:26] <AzumaHazuki> i need to stay a year and help her settle in
[08:18:13] <Subsentient> RunawayXXXX: No I didn't, damn.
[08:18:13] <AzumaHazuki> i think with Biden's win the country will remain just stable enough to pull that off, but that's a hard limit. the midterms are the end of everything...
[08:19:09] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: Honestly Biden's win feels so hollow to me because of what immediately followed, and honestly there's nothing he can do to stop it.
[08:19:43] <AzumaHazuki> right. plus, he's really no better than Obama or Clinton. this seems to baffle the hardcore tribalists on the site, that we voted for him without basically worshiping him as the fourth person of the Holy Trinity
[08:19:58] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: Why do you believe the midterms, as opposed to 2024?
[08:20:13] <Subsentient> And yeah, Biden was my very last choice
[08:20:26] <Subsentient> but anything's better than Orange Führer.
[08:20:32] <AzumaHazuki> because the GOP's going to get smart and leverage the damage they've done to the voting apparatus, push all their money into the legislature races, and retake the Senate and maybe the House
[08:20:47] <AzumaHazuki> they alread have the SCOTUS; an entire branch of the government is now the judicial arm of the Birchers
[08:21:17] <SoyGuest93544> unwinding the gerrymandering is all that it will take to keep dems in power
[08:21:25] <AzumaHazuki> and it's not going to happen
[08:21:34] <SoyGuest93544> they'll lose a few small regions, but gain way more
[08:22:18] <AzumaHazuki> the Dems in general aren't the "good guys." Some are, but most of them are just evil-but-practical. they realize a revolution would be bad for their stock portfolios
[08:22:26] <SoyGuest93544> yeah, facts and policy rarely correlate
[08:22:31] <Subsentient> Yep, that about sums it up
[08:22:34] <AzumaHazuki> the entire system is now on life support, covid-ventilator style
[08:22:53] <SoyGuest93544> it stinks, but they can't smell it?
[08:23:21] <AzumaHazuki> they like the smell
[08:23:31] <Subsentient> Honestly maybe the world being consumed in nuclear fire would be kinder. Sigh.
[08:23:42] <c0lo> If Biden team doesn't hold course on the job at hand and start to play excessive politics, they'll go down. If they stay doing what needs to be done - on, gosh, there's a lot of it - Trump is toasted.
[08:24:40] <AzumaHazuki> i don't trust them to stay on couse. Biden is a senile figurehead, Harris is a mystery, and most of the cabinet looks like the usual lineup of corporate grifters
[08:24:49] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki++
[08:24:49] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 62
[08:25:17] <RunawayXXXX> AzumaHazuki ++
[08:25:23] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: Yeah makes it difficult to defeat evil when there's no good guys either.
[08:25:27] <RunawayXXXX> AzumaHazuki++
[08:25:27] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 63
[08:26:00] <AzumaHazuki> living in a doomed timeline feels so bizarre...
[08:26:22] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: Yeah........... Being able to see what's coming before most people, and not being able to do anything
[08:26:44] <RunawayXXXX> The I Jing has a concept about this, small changes produce large results. And the Chi has turned in American politics.
[08:27:21] <AzumaHazuki> this is just the logical karma of 40+ years of Reaganomics and almost half a century of the executive being basically untouchable (cf. Ford's pardoning of Nixon)
[08:27:29] <AzumaHazuki> we couldn't, logically, expect anything else to happen
[08:27:31] <Subsentient> I grew up with a new age mom who predicted the apocalypse all my life, and I haven't believed any of that shit since I was a child. I never thought I'd end up being the one predicting doom.
[08:28:10] <RunawayXXXX> Yes, but what about Kansas? Supply side economics is dead. Trump is a laughingstock. Ted Cruz is, well, Ted Cruz.
[08:28:16] <c0lo> If it doesn't stay the course, us is toasted and the world veers slowly under china's domination. Hope you can learn a tonal language.
[08:28:34] <RunawayXXXX> Ni hou ma?
[08:28:55] <SoyGuest93544> do screams count as tonal?
[08:28:58] <AzumaHazuki> c0lo, I am really deaf and have had zero luck
[08:29:03] <Subsentient> The second dark age -- just as when Rome fell and plunged the civilized world into darkness, the collapse of the USA will do the same.
[08:29:09] <AzumaHazuki> japanese is a massive pain in the ass grammatically but it's not tonal
[08:30:58] <c0lo> Not quite dark ages (Europe will stay), but definitelly a brutal switch in cultural values.
[08:31:34] <Subsentient> c0lo: Europe will be hit badly without American technology companies and infrastructure. They may recover but there will be a high cost.
[08:31:57] <AzumaHazuki> and as always, it'll be the poor, racial minorities, the disabled, and queer people of all stripes who suffer most
[08:32:05] <Subsentient> Of course.
[08:32:05] <AzumaHazuki> hence another reason i need to go, sooner rather than later
[08:32:12] <AzumaHazuki> as i fit 3 of those
[08:32:13] <Subsentient> If you're different, hope you like Zyklon.
[08:32:27] <RunawayXXXX> We are talking about a major shift in ideology, short term things like tech will not matter in the long run.
[08:32:34] <Subsentient> Same. Poor, severe OCD, bisexual = gas chamber
[08:33:28] <RunawayXXXX> And keep an eye on Poland. They are trying to run the old game there, but the people are not buying it.
[08:33:50] <Subsentient> RunawayXXXX: I've already written off Poland as no longer free.
[08:34:17] <c0lo> subsentient, I think you underestimate Europe. Search Alcatel, Nokia, MP3 compression. I'd even remember France's Minitel comes to that.
[08:34:37] <AzumaHazuki> i'm going to end up in hamilton or even fort erie during the early escape phase i think. halifax may never happen. i can deal with hamilton, it's basically buffalo done right
[08:35:38] <Subsentient> What scares me is I see democracy and human rights in serious, serious decline globally. I'm afraid there will be nowhere that is truly safe.
[08:35:53] <AzumaHazuki> there won't be, but some places will be safer for longer
[08:36:28] <c0lo> I like spiders and don't mind snakes.
[08:36:59] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: True. Again, just hope I don't live to see it.
[08:37:25] <AzumaHazuki> unless you're going to commit suicide, you will live to see it
[08:37:25] <RunawayXXXX> Two-step snakes, or three or four step snakes, c0lo?
[08:37:58] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: if I end up seeing the beginning of it, I just might.
[08:38:04] <AzumaHazuki> ...my pharmaceutical knowledge has provided me with a painless and clean, if rather drawn-out, method. Should the need arise. it's fairly easy aside from acquiring one of the ingredients
[08:38:17] <AzumaHazuki> no controlled substances, but you're not going to get metoclopramide without a prescription
[08:38:35] <Subsentient> I'm oldschool. I'd just slit my wrists with a box cutter.
[08:38:49] * AzumaHazuki is a proponent of better living, and dying, through chemistry
[08:38:50] <c0lo> A bit of botanics, 'Zumi.
[08:39:19] * Subsentient is a deep believer that the right to live doesn't make logical sense without the right to die
[08:39:35] <AzumaHazuki> botanics? i know only medicine and chemicals...tert-amyl alcohol, with a big dose of metoclopramide and a few benadryl an hour beforehand to prevent vomiting
[08:40:03] <AzumaHazuki> long story short, tert-amyl alcohol is about 80x as potent as plain ethanol and doesn't get eliminated in the liver by alcohol dehydrogenase because it's not a primary alcohol
[08:40:21] <c0lo> https://www.publish.csiro.au
[08:40:24] <systemd> ^ 03Australia's Poisonous Plants, Fungi and Cyanobacteria
[08:40:43] <AzumaHazuki> dissolve 100mL in about 64 oz of gatorade, pre-load an hour before with 60-100mg of metoclopramide and 50-100mg benadryl, drink after an hour, and you're off to the races
[08:41:10] <Subsentient> Good advice for the apocalypse. Rare to come by
[08:41:19] <AzumaHazuki> get everything cleaned up and have some nice music on, lay down, make sure you bought a Depends and put it on because corpses loosen their bowels and bladder and no one wants to clean up shit
[08:42:11] <SoyGuest93544> Fusel alcohols like TAA are grain fermentation byproducts and therefore trace amounts of TAA are present in many alcoholic beverages.[10] Traces of TAA have been detected in other foods, like fried bacon,[11] cassava[12] and rooibos tea.[13]
[08:42:31] <SoyGuest93544> I've probably got a tollerance, in that case!
[08:42:50] <AzumaHazuki> ironically, knowing this makes it a lot easier to keep going and survive. just knowing that if everything goes truly to hell, i won't have to stick around and can go out on my own terms gives me strength to keep going
[08:43:16] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: I know exactly what you mean.
[08:43:28] <Subsentient> Knowing there's a way out
[08:43:44] <AzumaHazuki> until people are killing one another in the streets for bread and there's no power or water and the government's collapsed, i'll keep going. then, when Peak Bullshit arrives, i'll nip out early and peacefully
[08:44:11] <Subsentient> For me it's once my OCD meds stop being available because the pharmacies have been burned to the ground.
[08:44:22] <c0lo> Meh, an argon cyclinder from the welding supplies at the hardware store, in a tight woven or impreganted small tent is easier to arrange for.
[08:44:30] <SoyGuest93544> or you could come to europe, there's still plenty of space in scandinavia
[08:44:32] <AzumaHazuki> in fairness, the world would be a better place if CVS burned to the ground :v
[08:44:40] <Subsentient> Lol
[08:44:59] <Subsentient> SoyGuest93544: The immigration process is too difficult.
[08:45:05] <Subsentient> They wouldn't take most of us.
[08:45:17] <Subsentient> But those countries will have swarms of american refugees soon enough.
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[08:48:12] <AzumaHazuki> there is always a kernel of truth in what one's enemies say...my beliefs on immigration might annoy some of those otherwise in my social circle
[08:48:37] <AzumaHazuki> there is something to be said for forcing assimilation on people from vastly different, less-humanistic cultures who wish to immigrate
[08:49:07] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: On that we agree. It's something I can't say in public or around anyone else who leans left, but yes.
[08:49:18] <Subsentient> It's not about your race, it's about what's in your head.
[08:49:22] <AzumaHazuki> precisely
[08:49:41] <AzumaHazuki> on that note, i would support places like Norway or Denmark refusing American migrants from south of Dixie
[08:49:57] <Subsentient> Yeah I can't really blame you
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[08:51:17] <Subsentient> A democracy requires democrats to function. Citizens need to respect the institutions or the entire system implodes and ends up as a dictatorship.\
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[08:51:56] <AzumaHazuki> this is that kernel of corn in the gigantic dumptruck of shit that is the "conservative stance on immigration"
[08:52:29] <AzumaHazuki> 'course, when they say it, what the really mean is it's an excuse for bigotry and racism, but they hook enough people with the reasonable interpretation...
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[08:54:50] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: Yeah that about sums it up
[08:55:12] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: Hard to defend our position as not racist when so many racists adopt it.
[08:55:34] <AzumaHazuki> that's the problem with people not separating culture from race :/
[08:55:38] <Subsentient> Yeppppp
[08:55:50] <AzumaHazuki> i absolutely hate the culture of most of the US south of the Mason Dixon line, but that does not make me antiwhite
[08:57:09] <Subsentient> Yeah exactly. And due to my life experiences, I take a *very* dim view of overzealous religious types, and as such I despise Islam and other such fundamentalist religions, but that does not mean I dislike Arabs.
[08:57:32] <Subsentient> God I've seen so many people destroyed by belief. It's depressing.
[08:57:51] <Subsentient> Inhale the nihility -- it will set you free
[08:59:14] <Subsentient> My own mother has essentially been brainwashed by a new age pay-for-enlightenment scam.
[08:59:48] <AzumaHazuki> uuugh...
[08:59:56] <Subsentient> It started when I was 10 and continues to this day. It has shut down all critical thinking. But she's old and it's all she has, and I feel it would be cruel to try and forcibly get her deprogrammed etc
[09:00:24] <Subsentient> She's on chemotherapy and already has severe paranoid delusions
[09:00:28] <AzumaHazuki> the hardest part of all this is this feeling like we're living in a zombie apocalypse where the zombies won
[09:00:35] <AzumaHazuki> and made their own zombie government, zombie corporations etc etc
[09:00:47] <SoyGuest93544> Consume
[09:01:12] <Subsentient> Yeah that sounds about right
[09:01:13] * AzumaHazuki is going to go for a walk, soak in the full moon's light if it's still up
[09:01:25] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: Be careful of the zombies tonight.
[09:01:37] <AzumaHazuki> i love full and near-full moons...there's something nostalgic about the light and the orb
[09:01:58] <SoyGuest93544> totally
[09:04:29] * Subsentient only sees the moon when he goes out to defile his lungs with one of his shitty mail order cigars
[09:21:31] <AzumaHazuki> there...
[09:22:28] <AzumaHazuki> sometimes i wish it would stay night forever. that would be an extinction level event for humanity of course...
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[09:43:16] <SoyGuest93544> https://youtu.be
[09:43:19] <systemd> ^ 03THYLACINE JOEY PHOTO ( https://www.youtube.com )
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[09:52:36] <c0lo> https://pbs.twimg.com
[09:52:40] <Ingar> watch the moon when the waxing sickle is a few days old, usually you get some nice eartshine
[09:53:09] <Ingar> and as a bonus, you get to watch it right after sunset, no nightwandering needed :)
[09:53:18] <AzumaHazuki> i love the full moon, and the times just before and after...say, waxing gibbous 3 days before to full, and waning a day or two after
[09:53:23] <AzumaHazuki> today is the day after the full moon
[09:53:46] <AzumaHazuki> no doubt, if i didn't get to soak in the moonlight, my body wouldn't heal itself from its damage so quickly
[09:53:50] <Ingar> I know, my attic room window watches over the soutehrn skies
[09:54:01] <Ingar> it's quite hard to miss full moon by the light alone
[09:55:29] <Ingar> (and I have a moonphase app on my phone)
[10:01:00] <SoyGuest93544> nooooo!!!!! a few days off full either way is *horrible*!!!!!
[10:01:20] <SoyGuest93544> full disk, or don't pretend
[10:18:09] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[10:18:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Judge Approves $650M Facebook Privacy Lawsuit Settlement" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:18:38] <c0lo> =submit end-of-drama https://apnews.com
[10:18:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Facebook Signs Pay Deals With 3 Australian News Publishers" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:19:47] <c0lo> =submit and-another-drama-ending https://apnews.com
[10:19:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03AT&T Spinning Off DirecTV After Losing Millions of Customers" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:20:53] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[10:20:55] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Countries Call on Drug Companies to Share Vaccine Know-how" (30p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:23:44] <c0lo> =submit and-a-comedy-starts-afresh https://apnews.com
[10:23:47] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Analysis: La. Voting Machine Search a Political Minefield" (23p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:27:51] <c0lo> =submit bezos-divorced-bc-marriage-is-a-union https://www.forbes.com
[10:27:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Biden Backs Union Vote by Amazon Workers, Tells Company Not to Interfere or Intimidate" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:28:31] <AzumaHazuki> now that surprises me
[10:28:47] <AzumaHazuki> maybe he'll be a bit better than i hoped
[10:29:26] <c0lo> Who? Bezos? (grin)
[10:29:34] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
[10:29:37] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Self-Flying Drone Startup Skydio Hits $1 Billion Valuation After $170 Million Raise" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:31:25] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
[10:31:28] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Why New Zealand's Cheeky New Porn PSA is Going Viral" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:31:51] <AzumaHazuki> no, Biden
[10:38:14] * Bytram yawns
[10:38:14] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into Bytram's gaping mouth
[10:38:22] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:38:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5506
[10:38:51] <Bytram> has anyone else noticed the comment counts do not seem to be updated?
[10:39:31] * Bytram looks around for the magic incantation to restore them
[10:42:09] * Bytram loads https://soylentnews.org
[10:43:08] * Bytram bounces the servers (hydrogen and fluorine)
[10:43:35] <Bytram> no joy.
[10:44:07] <Bytram> next, let's check apache logs before attempting to restartw slashd
[10:44:58] * Bytram tries: tail -f /srv/soylentnews.org/apache/logs/error_log
[10:44:58] <Bytram> # Restart slash:
[10:46:29] <Bytram> that's... strange
[10:46:40] <Bytram> PASTE_BEGIN
[10:46:42] <Bytram> [Mon Mar 01 10:42:45 2021] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart
[10:46:42] <Bytram> [Mon Mar 01 10:42:46 2021] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest authentication ...
[10:46:42] <Bytram> [Mon Mar 01 10:42:46 2021] [notice] Digest: done
[10:46:42] <Bytram> [Mon Mar 01 10:42:47 2021] [notice] Apache/2.2.29 (Unix) DAV/2 mod_apreq2-20090110/2.8.0 mod_perl/2.0.8 Perl/v5.20.1 configured -- resuming normal operations
[10:46:47] <Bytram> PASTE_END
[10:47:03] <Bytram> and I hadn't *done* anything, yet.
[10:47:45] * Bytram reloads main page... counts still not updating
[10:48:31] * Bytram notes no spurious msgs appearing in apache log
[10:49:11] * Bytram tries to restart slashd
[10:49:33] * Bytram issues: sudo /etc/init.d/slash restart
[10:50:28] * Bytram notes it *appears* to have run successfuly
[10:52:01] * Bytram sees no change in the comment counts, as yet
[10:52:44] * Bytram waits a few minutes for slashd "tasks" to fire off and run
[10:56:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Meet Catfish Charlie, the CIA’s Robotic Spy - https://sylnt.us - catfishing || Google Unveils Lyra Audio Codec with Better Speech Compression than Opus - https://sylnt.us - do-you-hear-what-I-hear? || Ultrasound Triggers Brain's Waste Disposal System in Alzheimer's Patients - https://sylnt.us - coming-soon-to-a-pillow-near-you? || Best - 1 more
[10:58:38] * Bytram had just looked at that story to read it (as a user) and ten tried editing it to see if any stats would get updated or made visible... nope
[10:59:29] * Bytram notes it is currently: 2021-03-01 10:59:03 UTC\
[11:00:12] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
[11:00:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The F-111 Was the ‘F-35 of its Day,’ but its Failure Was a Boon to U.S. Air Power" (24p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:01:04] * Bytram looks at: https://soylentnews.org
[11:03:46] <Bytram> Annnddddddddd, they're back!
[11:05:26] * Bytram sees updated comment on main page, story counts on Authors page ( https://soylentnews.org ) and on HallofFame ( https://soylentnews.org )
[11:06:52] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: /me noticed comment counts were not updating. Now, they are. See above for observations and steps taken.
[11:07:12] <Bytram> and now, me steps back to bed.
[11:07:19] <Bytram> laters
[11:09:03] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, some other surprise for you, maybe? https://www.forbes.com
[11:09:05] <systemd> ^ 03President Biden’s Changes To PPP Are A Big Win For Main Street And Business Owners Of Color: Five Key Changes
[11:09:55] <AzumaHazuki> i wonder if he actually knows what he's doing. he's obviously not as senile as our resident nutbars like Runaway want to paint him as but...
[11:11:56] <Bytram> =g PPP point to point
[11:11:57] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Point-to-Point Protocol - Wikipedia
[11:12:13] <Bytram> and now for sure.
[11:12:24] <Bytram> laters
[11:28:23] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, do you care much if it's Biden himself ot Team Biden who trace the course?
[11:28:41] <AzumaHazuki> no, so long as the good gets done
[11:28:59] <AzumaHazuki> that's another thing our frothing tribalites can't seem to get through their heads
[11:29:19] <c0lo> so stop wasting time wondering.
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[11:29:37] <AzumaHazuki> hah, fair enough
[11:29:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> who even uses ppp anymore? i mean dialup's pretty much dead.
[11:30:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> he is pretty old though, so shurgh
[11:30:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:30:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5507
[11:36:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> bruce willis been working a lot lately. pushed out three full length films last year and one already this year.
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[12:23:26] <c0lo> PPPoE
[12:23:41] <c0lo> =g PPPoE
[12:23:42] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet - Wikipedia
[12:25:50] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
[12:25:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Four Hidden Dangers of Long-Term Remote Work (That Almost Nobody’s Talking About Yet)" (22p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:42:15] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
[12:42:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03California and Texas Vie to be America’s Hydrogen Capital" (22p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:26:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Mac Price Crash of 2021 - https://sylnt.us
[13:44:29] <c0lo> The problem of delta time between two front page pubs was successfuly solved.
[13:49:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, it's monday. no more weekend spacing.
[13:50:51] <c0lo> s/no more weekend spacing/no more stories/
[13:50:55] <c0lo> ftfy
[13:52:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/ftfy/bewbs++/
[13:52:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ftfy
[13:56:14] <c0lo> =submit tax-the-bewbs https://www.cbsnews.com
[13:56:17] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "0350 Years of Tax Cuts for the Rich Failed to Trickle Down, Economics Study Says" (23p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:56:40] <SoyGuest93544> https://www.youtube.com
[13:56:41] <systemd> ^ 03New Rule: Cancel Culture is Over Party
[14:01:39] <c0lo> https://edition.cnn.com
[14:01:42] <systemd> ^ 03Former French President Nicolas Sarkozy sentenced to jail in historic ruling
[15:04:29] <Bytram> coffee++
[15:04:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5508
[15:42:35] <Runaway1956> Eat the whole sausage . . .
[15:46:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Plastic Bottles Holding 2.3 Litres are Least Harmful to the Planet - https://sylnt.us
[15:48:12] <Runaway1956> https://www.independent.co.uk
[15:48:15] <systemd> ^ 03Rapper on trial for chopping off British teacher’s penis
[15:48:34] <Runaway1956> I didn't even know that British teachers had penises
[15:52:43] <Runaway1956> It's St David's Day - at least 20 or 30 people from his home town are honoring him
[16:00:55] <Runaway1956> https://media.gab.com
[16:56:35] <Teckla> "Plastic Bottles Holding 2.3 Litres are Least Harmful to the Planet" -- Wow! Humanity just discovered that area and volume scale differently!
[16:56:46] <Teckla> This just in: bottles holding 4.6 liters are least harmful to the planet!!!
[16:57:10] <Teckla> Sorry. I couldn't help myself.
[17:11:41] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: Bruce Willis is the Adam Sandler of action movies now
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[18:00:52] <SoyGuest93544> TIL this existed: https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:00:53] <systemd> ^ 03Cop Rock - Wikipedia
[18:27:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - She Came to the U.S. with $300. Now She's Part of NASA's Mars Mission. - https://sylnt.us - Immigrants-get-the-job-done!
[18:29:27] <chromas> She baits for clicks with this one weird trick
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[19:16:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - She Came to the U.S. with $300. Now She's Part of NASA's Mars Mission - https://sylnt.us - Immigrants-get-the-job-done!
[19:16:59] <chromas> Oh, sure. One sentence in the title gets punctuated but not the other. I demand equal treatment!
[19:18:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, .
[19:26:29] <chromas> found TheMightyBuzzard's newest mod: https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[19:32:19] <Bytram> chromas: I recall noticing the trailing period in the source URLs title when I processed the story. Don't recall doing anything to it.
[19:33:12] <Bytram> Ahh, Aristarchus left it out when he subbed the story.
[19:33:38] <Bytram> No... wait.
[19:34:06] <Bytram> It WAS in the original sub.
[19:34:15] <chromas> it was there. I'd just noticed that was the only difference when Bender reposted the same story
[19:34:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, the first is a sentence that identifies as a headline, the second is a headline. one has periods, the other doesn't.
[19:34:52] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++
[19:34:52] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 414
[19:35:29] * TheMightyBuzzard goes to wash the paint off of himself and have a smoke-postponed nap
[19:36:00] <Bytram> I submit, on further thought, that it would be better as: "She Came to the U.S. with $300; Now She's Part of NASA's Mars Mission"
[19:37:07] <chromas> I submit that the whole thing should be written without clickbait-style pronouns, but it's not big deal
[19:38:17] <Bytram> Well, she IS a "She", not an "It" or "he" -- how is that clickbaity?
[19:38:22] <chromas> More important though is that my mail server isn't rejecting incoming dkms-/dmarc-failing emails
[19:40:51] <chromas> It's not clickbait on its own, but it's in the style of clickbait. It gets you to ask "who?" and wanna click. It's used in movies a lot. The internet calls it "the pronoun game" (not to be confused with the wikipedia entry which is some other, unrelated bs)
[19:41:23] <chromas> "playing the pronoun game" is when a character uses a pronoun such as "he" or "they" in place of a name forcing another character to ask "who?". Often used in films to give an excuse for exposition or as a cheap way to add mystery.
[19:44:57] <Bytram> chromas++ TIL!! TYVM!
[19:44:57] <Bender> karma - chromas: 340
[19:46:01] * Bytram goes in to make the change
[19:46:15] <Bytram> chromas: How about this: "Diana Trujillo Came to the U.S. with $300; Now She's Part of NASA's Mars Mission"
[19:49:17] <chromas> Looks good. You don't really have to change it though; I'm just griping :D
[19:49:50] <Bytram> chromas: s/.p/op/
[19:49:50] <SedBot> <Bytram> <chromas> Looks good. You don't really have to change it though; I'm just groping :D
[19:49:54] <Bytram> ;)
[19:51:25] <chromas> We should put up a few banners for fake SN products and rewrite all headlines to be clickbaity for April 1
[20:05:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Diana Trujillo Came to the U.S. with $300; Now She's Part of NASA's Mars Mission - https://sylnt.us - Immigrants-get-the-job-done!
[20:15:03] <SoyGuest93544> Diana Trujo Came to the U.S. with $300; Now She's Part of NASA's Machete Mission
[20:15:26] <chromas> Noice
[20:57:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Report: Stadia Undershot to the Tune of “Hundreds of Thousands” of Users - https://sylnt.us - crash-and-burn
[21:03:38] <Teckla> I would try something like Stadia IF the games I purchased were available on all platforms.
[21:04:13] <Teckla> For example, I wouldn't want to buy a game, and decide I didn't like Stadia, and then not be able to download and play it on Windows, and then have to pay for it again.
[21:05:12] <chromas> Easier way to do it: build a noice gaming PC, shove it in a closet, then use Steam streaming on your laptop
[21:37:21] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[21:37:23] <systemd> ^ 03SpaceX Falcon 9 missed its landing last month because of a hole in a boot ( https://www.cnet.com )
[21:49:07] <chromas> Should've used Gummiboot
[21:55:19] <Teckla> chromas: Heh! Yeah. The older I get, the more I distrust the cloud anyway. Local computing ftw!
[21:56:13] <Teckla> I like to watch some retro-computing stuff on YouTube, and it struck me that there's be no such thing as retro-computing for things like iPads...
[21:56:37] <Teckla> s/there's/there will be/
[21:56:37] <SedBot> <Teckla> I like to watch some retro-computing stuff on YouTube, and it struck me that there will be be no such thing as retro-computing for things like iPads...
[21:56:43] <Teckla> I love you, SedBot.
[21:57:11] <Bytram> Teckla: s/$/... yet/
[21:57:11] <SedBot> <Bytram> <Teckla> I love you, SedBot.... yet
[21:57:25] <Bytram> just missed it!
[21:57:46] <Teckla> Bytram: I think all those apps may be permanently lost.
[21:58:06] <Bytram> :: sadface ::
[21:58:18] <chromas> There's PDAs and stuff
[21:58:40] <Bytram> I've only lost all my files 3 or 4 times
[21:58:44] <chromas> Apple Newton
[21:58:47] <Teckla> Bytram: yikes
[21:59:08] <Teckla> My iPad was a gift. I *love* the device, but wouldn't buy one for myself. Too locked down.
[21:59:47] <Bytram> well, we're going back 4 decades, so I had LOTS of opportunities on a great many different platforms
[22:00:28] <chromas> I used a Windows 8 tablet once. Was pretty nice having a real desktop with real desktop applications but muh battery life
[22:00:49] <chromas> also the LEDs had yuuge ghosting/burn-in issue
[22:01:03] <Bytram> as ar as they go, apples are nice, but I seem to always want to go someplace they didn't think/plan/care for -- frustrating!
[22:01:26] <Teckla> Bytram: What did you start with?
[22:02:07] <Teckla> My favorite thing about Windows 8 was the nice thick window borders that were easy to see and grab. I don't like the razor thing ones that are popular now.
[22:02:20] <Teckla> s/thing/thin/
[22:02:20] <SedBot> <Teckla> My favorite thin about Windows 8 was the nice thick window borders that were easy to see and grab. I don't like the razor thing ones that are popular now.
[22:02:28] <Teckla> um oops. haha
[22:02:35] <Teckla> SedBot did EXACTLY what I told it to do. :()
[22:02:36] * SedBot is a 54-line awk script, https://github.com
[22:02:44] <chromas> s/8/7/
[22:02:58] <Bytram> PDP 8 with 24 K 12-bit word of memory running TSS/8. It was a multi-user, time-sharing system.
[22:03:12] <Teckla> Bytram: Whoa. You just may be older than me. This is a rare thing for me, on IRC!
[22:03:34] <Teckla> I started with a teletype at my brother's high school, an acoustic modem, connected to a CDC Cyber mainframe.
[22:03:47] <Teckla> Eventually bought myself a Teleray terminal and 300 baud acoustic coupler.
[22:03:58] <Teckla> Eventually saved up enough money for a TRS-80 Color Computer. :)
[22:04:03] <Teckla> And later, a Commodore 64.
[22:04:32] <Teckla> (Alas, the Teleray terminal was VERY used, and didn't last long...)
[22:04:57] * Bytram was very fortunate to have a far-sighted principle at the high school. persuaded the city to get the computer for city purposes, but we had 4-5 terminals in the High School and 1 terminal each of the two junior highs.
[22:05:11] <chromas> You're tuned into Dino Tales with gusts Teckla and MartyB
[22:05:33] * Bytram lobs a missing "e" to chromas
[22:05:49] <chromas> Dinoe Tales
[22:06:01] <Teckla> Bytram: Are you willing to share your age?
[22:06:05] * Teckla is curious!
[22:06:12] <Bytram> no no no no! Dino Taleees
[22:06:19] <Bytram> nope
[22:06:23] * Teckla chuckles
[22:06:27] <Teckla> Well, I'm 52
[22:06:29] * Bytram giggle
[22:06:41] <Teckla> Which is like 79 million years old, in Internet years
[22:06:41] <Bytram> I am older
[22:06:53] <Teckla> BEST DAY EVER :D
[22:07:16] <Bytram> that would put me back in the Jurassic era
[22:07:22] <Bytram> ;)
[22:07:26] <Teckla> Heh!
[22:07:38] <Teckla> Actually, I feel *really* fortunate to have grown up when I did.
[22:07:50] <Teckla> Growing up during the 8-bit era was *awesome*.
[22:08:15] <Teckla> I feel sorry for kids now. Writing cool programs must seem *so* out of reach.
[22:11:18] * Bytram has owned: OSI Challenger 4P, Atari 800, Commodore 64, and then my first IBM compatible: (Wells American) 80286 10/12 MHz, 1 MB RAM, 40 MB Seagate ST-251 half-height hard disk. Amber monitor driven by a Hercules-compatible video card.
[22:13:20] <Bytram> over the years have prolly worked on well over 2 dozen OS's and platforms. Could even be closer to 3 dozen.
[22:13:37] <chromas> US dozen or metric dozen?
[22:13:44] <Bytram> YES!
[22:16:54] <Bytram> yes, it is time for a nap. laters
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[22:28:22] <SoyGuest93544> "You just may be older than me. This is a rare thing for me, on IRC!" - lolwat!?! I'm chatting to a pair of 80-somethings in another window!
[22:39:52] <Teckla> SoyGuest93544: :O
[23:26:58] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[23:27:00] <systemd> ^ 03Go nuts: Reese’s making chocolate-free, all peanut butter cups
[23:27:20] <Runaway1956> Now all we need is a peanut butter free chocolate cup to go with that!
[23:31:31] <SoyGuest93544> that's called "chocolate"
[23:37:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Self-Flying Drone Startup Skydio Hits $1 Billion Valuation after $170 Million Raise - https://sylnt.us - soaring-valuation
[23:39:57] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhh, the Odal rune - something straight out of fantasy and science fiction