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[23:54:19] * FatPhil glares at chromas
[23:54:11] <FatPhil> So, who wrote the "I" in that systemd outburst?
[23:53:36] <FatPhil> Too few seem to have realised that the person who writes "clean me" in the dirt on back of a truck is actually the "me".
[23:52:25] <systemd> FatPhil, I've told you 4 times,I'm obsessed with your boner for some reason!
[23:52:24] <FatPhil> =boner FatPhil
[23:48:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scintillating Discovery: These Distant 'Baby' Black Holes Seem to be Misbehaving - https://sylnt.us
[23:42:39] <systemd> ^ 03Trump Shifted Campaign-Donor Money Into His Private Business After Losing The Election
[23:42:38] <c0lo> For pieces like this, join #politics https://www.forbes.com
[23:41:22] <chromas> =bonner FatPhil
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[23:05:01] <FatPhil> enable titties?
[22:08:19] <systemd> k
[22:08:19] <chromas> =enable titles
[22:08:04] <chromas> automatic titles aren't enabled in that channel
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[21:54:19] <Bytram> chromas: This is strange... systemd happily retrieves & posts a title for this URL, here -- but the same link outputs nothing in #politics ?? Any idea why?
[21:52:45] <systemd> ^ 03How to deal with coronavirus contrarians
[21:52:44] <Bytram> https://medicalxpress.com
[21:16:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vale Reaches $7bn Settlement Over Deadly Dam Collapse in Brazil - https://sylnt.us
[20:45:37] <chromas> Tired is usually the best time to get some code done
[20:45:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll go kick my feet up in my chair and read a book for an hour instead.
[20:44:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm fucking tired. but it's too late to take a decent nap on account of dinner cooking/prep time if i don't wanna eat late.
[20:17:11] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[20:17:11] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[20:03:37] <chromas> QMK
[20:03:35] <chromas> and some cheap hardware to run QML
[20:03:21] <chromas> all you need is the case and switches
[20:03:15] <chromas> no
[20:02:54] <FatPhil> you can only fight progress so long
[19:56:32] <systemd> ^ 03A Complete Guide To Building a Hand-Wired Keyboard
[19:56:31] <chromas> https://medium.com
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[19:38:22] <chromas> FatPhil: You don't have to've thrown out that keyboard. Just replace the guts
[18:45:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple May Finally Fix its Flimsy iPhone Charger Cables - https://sylnt.us
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[16:17:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM Promises 100X Faster Quantum Computers Through New Software Foundations - https://sylnt.us
[14:57:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03How Mars Became the Prize for the New Space Race – and Why China is Hellbent on Winning It" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:57:49] <c0lo> =submit https://theconversation.com
[14:52:44] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Zeyu Hao, A. M. Zimmerman, Patrick Ledwith, <em>et al</em>. <b>Electric field tunable superconductivity in alternating twist magic-angle trilayer graphene</b> [$], <cite>Science</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1126/science.abg0399">10.1126/science.abg0399</a>)</p>
[14:52:41] <c0lo> =doi 10.1126/science.abg0399
[14:52:41] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scientists Use Trilayer Graphene to Observe More Robust Superconductivity" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:52:36] <c0lo> =submit doing-four-blades-next https://phys.org
[14:47:26] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Physicists to Look for Quantum Time Dilation Inside Nuclear Reactor" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:47:22] <c0lo> =submit https://newatlas.com
[14:14:34] <Ingar> I had enough discussion about "servers" when my contract with my ISP stated that "servers are not allowed"
[14:13:43] <Ingar> I'm using the plebs definition "that computer that no one ever uses"
[13:51:46] <FatPhil_> almost everything is a server for something
[13:49:05] <Ingar> (except the server ofc)
[13:48:55] <Ingar> and turn off machines I don't use at night
[13:48:38] <Ingar> I used to play uptime e-penis, but these days. fuck it, I just update and reboot
[13:47:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Flash is Back in South Africa - https://sylnt.us - Resurrections
[13:46:57] <FatPhil_> Ingar: I'm behind a firewall, only SSH and nginx is open
[13:46:48] * c0lo infers the power network in Estonia is very stable
[13:46:39] <boru> The only thing that requires a reboot is kernel updates.
[13:46:34] <Ingar> *alphas
[13:46:31] <Ingar> lphas were fun in 2002
[13:46:15] <boru> Loss of an Alpha is a sad thing.
[13:46:04] <Ingar> FatPhil_: you mean, you have all the vulnerabilities from the past 3 years ?
[13:46:01] <FatPhil_> A UPS blew up my DEC Alpha, I'll never touch a bloody UPS again!
[13:45:46] <boru> Could always PXE boot a ramdisk over the network.
[13:45:39] <FatPhil_> hence my 1125 days uptime on this machine (my dev server)
[13:45:38] <c0lo> Any UPS, FatPhil?
[13:45:10] <FatPhil_> I like to just fire up and forget
[13:44:51] <Ingar> not the most energy efficient but I only run it when needed
[13:44:40] <boru> It's now a RAIDZ-3 array.
[13:44:37] <Ingar> my backup machine is my old server, a phenom II 955
[13:44:19] <boru> QNAP's software is the worst.
[13:44:11] <boru> My backup is a QNAP NAS, which I installed FreeBSD on, along with replacing the RAM with ECC RAM.
[13:44:10] <c0lo> How do you keep the dust out of your files?
[13:44:07] <FatPhil_> To manage it, there's a "web" interface which attempts to emulate a very windows-like windowing environment in JS.
[13:43:28] <FatPhil_> I have a terrible DiskStation110j - don't get one
[13:42:49] <Ingar> using a ryzen 1700 as NAS/home server
[13:42:00] <FatPhil_> on the bottom shelf
[13:41:51] <FatPhil_> one of the messages I got from the g/f from the office was "well, at least the NAS is working!" I'd completely forgotten about the NAS, as it lives in a cupboard.
[13:41:12] <c0lo> (keep your ssfs connections on the floor, FatPhil, they can't drop lower than that)
[13:41:01] <FatPhil_> theoretically it should have solved all our problems, alas it was too unreliable
[13:40:26] <boru> Well, you have other options. Having a fuse module is just nice.
[13:40:04] <FatPhil_> my sshfs connections keep dropping
[13:39:52] <c0lo> (right... FatPhil wants a SBC, boru offers opinions instead)
[13:39:38] <boru> Makes it easier to cross compile ports for them, as well.
[13:39:38] <FatPhil_> Ironically, this was the only bit of kit I had redundancy for, but the replacement now doesn't even power up, not even to the multicoloured preboot screen.
[13:39:29] <boru> I sshfs the important stuff for my SBCs from a NAS with a backup NAS.
[13:38:46] <FatPhil_> Definitely, I might retire this old B
[13:38:29] <boru> Like I said, if you're looking for a new SBC, I might offer some opinions.
[13:38:09] <FatPhil_> but I need some kip first, I'm knackered
[13:37:54] <FatPhil_> I think I'm going to migrate some of the services off this crappy broken Pi onto the one that does seem to be working.
[13:36:23] <FatPhil_> but 5 times the pixels that need switching twice as frequently
[13:34:22] <boru> Well, fab size is shrinking, and with that comes lower static and dynamic power consumption, then you have frequency scaling etc.
[13:34:09] <FatPhil_> we did make some of the big boxes last 15+ years. we have very frugal demands.
[13:33:30] <FatPhil_> processors are 1000 times as powerful, but use 10 times the elecricity. How about I compromise and ask for 10x the grunt at 1/10 the wattage - that really should be possible.
[13:33:21] <boru> I did a clear out about 2 years ago to scale down my relocation footprint.
[13:32:46] <boru> I've got a few grunty servers, then a desktop, a laptop and the rest is low power ARM/MIPS/RISC-V.
[13:31:56] * boru nods.
[13:31:52] <FatPhil_> bog->big
[13:31:46] <FatPhil_> we ditched out last bog box PC last year. The plan is, as we don't need any real CPU/GPU grunt, to just shrink desktop footprint and energy use.
[13:30:35] <FatPhil_> she even went to one of the nerdier tech stores in town with it, and they spent an hour with all kinds of adapters to see if it could be made to work with anything, and everyone gave up. They all had fun playing with a 25 year old keyboard though, it was older than some of the staff.
[13:29:13] <FatPhil_> I think that's what the g/f said, it was in the office (her kbd), and I never go to the office any more, so not sure if it hit a skip
[13:28:31] <boru> You binned it?!
[13:28:20] <FatPhil_> We had to bin our lovely old clicky IBM kbd from the 90s a year back, as it no longer worked in of our machines
[13:28:13] <boru> PS/2 is _far_ superior to USB for keyboards.
[13:28:06] <Ingar> yes, I actually blew up a PC's PS/2 ports
[13:27:58] <boru> Something is definitely wonky with that thing.
[13:27:51] <Ingar> I waited a decade for PS/2 to go to hell
[13:27:23] <boru> It's a shame mobo mfrs have deprecated PS/2 ports for USB.
[13:27:21] <FatPhil_> case is perspex! must be a photonic short!
[13:26:59] <FatPhil_> However, this time I got away with it.
[13:26:25] <boru> Case short perhaps?
[13:26:23] <Ingar> FatPhil_: I can recommend logitech :)
[13:26:21] <FatPhil_> RasPi - we ain't talking quality here
[13:26:05] <boru> BO from peripherals? That does _not_ sound good.
[13:26:05] <FatPhil_> nope, a wireless kbd
[13:25:57] <Ingar> FatPhil_: ah that sucks too ofc
[13:25:42] <Ingar> an AT keyyboard with a PS/2 convertor to a USB convertor ?
[13:25:39] <FatPhil_> Ingar: it's a power thing - plugging in a device draws too much current, and it browns its trousers
[13:25:17] <FatPhil_> So NAS is OK, desktop is OK, production webserver's OK. all that remains is the RasPi that was giving mmc errors, and upon which I'm now typing over SSH.
[13:25:14] <Ingar> how do you kill a pi by unplugging the keyb?
[13:24:34] <boru> You have to manually scrub the windows boot entry from the boot list.
[13:24:16] <boru> That's "intelligence" built into some BIOS.
[13:23:54] <FatPhil_> one of the really annoying things that it had done to itself was going into a "windows 8/8.1 fast boot" mode. Which is particularly retarded as there was no longer any windows on it. I'd never have manually set that - that mustbe flash bitrot or evilness
[13:20:44] <FatPhil_> I fear UEFI is dumb enough to get confused and refuse to proceed.
[13:19:23] <requerdanos> BSD, good stuff. ports, packages, and power.
[13:19:21] <boru> I think if you clear the secure boot key, nothing should be able to re-enable it.
[13:18:47] <boru> I'm a BSD elitist, thanks.
[13:18:46] <FatPhil_> well, time to kill this Pi as I unplug this keyboard, as I want the nice keyboard on the desktop machine
[13:18:18] <requerdanos> linux, good stuff. persecuted by corporations and idiots alike, still most used OS in the world.
[13:18:15] <boru> JFC, really?
[13:18:02] <FatPhil_> MS virus reenabled it
[13:17:56] <FatPhil_> I thought I had. Last time that was rebooted was about 2 years ago, and I've not had this problem since my very first boot (where I was following a handholding "install linux on ..." guide), and theoretically all that shit should have been off.
[13:16:53] <boru> So, rather.
[13:16:50] <boru> Do disable it?
[13:16:49] <FatPhil_> for my protection
[13:16:35] <FatPhil_> well, the problem is "secure boot". Which manages to lock me out of running the code I want on the processor I own.
[13:16:03] <boru> Ah, Linux. There's the problem.
[13:15:45] <FatPhil_> devuan old-stable I think.
[13:15:28] <boru> What is it running now?
[13:14:44] <FatPhil_> I did get brave a year or so back, and blat the windows partition, so that it could be used as swap and /tmp. I did fear that I'd got too brave.
[13:13:44] <FatPhil_> it was something to do with secure boot, it had somehow put itself into a not-willing-to-run-anything-apart-from-windows mode. And I don't have windows on it any more.
[13:12:56] <FatPhil_> disable this, enable that, disable the other, dick about with shit, mess up other shit, completely lose the plot, and finally ... "Welcome to cubispaz: Login:"
[13:11:50] <FatPhil_> oh, wow
[13:03:38] <FatPhil_> OK, 2nd raspi survived both unplugging of kbd and hdmi, so now running proper headless (and all its services working fine, so a line drawn under that one) on to the desktop and UEFIorwhatever its's called
[13:01:53] <boru> Bloody secure boot. You can thank intel and microshite for that bollocks.
[13:01:34] <FatPhil_> "Secure Boot Violation" "Invalid Signature detected.Check Secure boot policy in setup" ... now I need another keyboard...
[13:01:31] <boru> Yeah, always good to remove power to the BIOS chip completely in these instances, rather than do a warm PoR.
[13:00:47] <FatPhil_> oooh - progress - it's started talking to the telly again after I removed the power (not just turn off, actually detatch cable)
[12:59:39] <boru> Ah. Well, you might luck out. "Don't turn it on, take it apart!"
[12:56:45] <FatPhil_> being a mini-pc, I suspect it's no user serviceable parts inside.
[12:54:41] <boru> If you've got a multimeter, you could probe the rails yourself to see if they have stable output.
[12:54:00] <boru> If it has more than one DIMM of RAM, I'd try taking them out and trying one at a time in the first slot, also.
[12:53:45] <boru> I'd also look for CPU, RAM and SATA power LEDs, in case one of the PSU rails has died.
[12:52:13] <boru> Any segment display on the mobo that gives you a BIOS POST code or anything?
[12:51:53] <boru> No video would indicate it is probably not passing the BIOS POST, though.
[12:51:32] <boru> Hmm.
[12:51:16] <FatPhil_> yeah, link lights on box and router
[12:51:03] <boru> If so, the PHY has come alive, at least.
[12:50:56] <boru> Does the link come up? Do the lights on the ethernet port on the desktop side light up?
[12:50:44] <FatPhil_> I have used it just for finding open ports, but have never had it probe the SSH before
[12:50:17] <FatPhil_> Alas the desktop is just not responding at all.
[12:49:45] <boru> But it's invaluable.
[12:49:38] <boru> People villify it because it's a "port scanner that hackers use!"
[12:49:23] <boru> Yeah, nmap is one of the most useful network tools out there.
[12:48:59] <FatPhil_> boru: that nmap command is really neat - it reminded me abouta couple of other devices on the network, and they seem to be all working fine.
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[12:38:23] <systemd> ^ 03Salon.com
[12:38:22] <c0lo> We'll keep hearing about them, I reckon https://www.salon.com
[12:05:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Swirling Vortex of Bathtub Water Reveals an Elusive Mechanism of Black Hole Physics" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:05:56] <c0lo> =submit car-analogy-anyone https://www.sciencealert.com
[12:05:39] <systemd> ^ 03Swirling Vortex of Bathtub Water Reveals an Elusive Mechanism of Black Hole Physics
[12:05:38] <c0lo> https://www.sciencealert.com
[11:52:43] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Spacewatch: Airbus to Build Three More Moon Mission Modules" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:52:40] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[11:51:01] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scintillating Discovery: These Distant 'Baby' Black Holes Seem to be Misbehaving" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:50:58] <c0lo> =submit https://theconversation.com
[11:35:52] <FatPhil_> ok, picked up a laptop from the office, now at least I have another kbd, mouse, and screen through which to see what's alive and what isn't
[11:35:39] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Apple May Finally Fix its Flimsy iPhone Charger Cables" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:35:37] <c0lo> =submit https://www.tomsguide.com
[11:35:27] <systemd> ^ 03Apple may finally fix its flimsy iPhone charger cables
[11:35:26] <c0lo> https://www.tomsguide.com
[11:34:45] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03AppleInsider" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:34:43] <c0lo> =submit https://appleinsider.com
[11:26:43] <c0lo> Raspberry in pastry for lunch may help, yes.
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[11:05:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Novel Molecules Discovered to Combat Asthma and COVID-Related Lung Diseases - https://sylnt.us - take-a-deep-breath
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[10:50:17] <FatPhil_> everything depends on everything else!
[10:48:34] <FatPhil_> lunch, then shops for bits...
[10:48:28] <FatPhil_> I think I'll need to do some pi surgery.
[10:47:58] <FatPhil_> ugh, can't nmap until I can install it, and I can't install it, as / is now read-only
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[10:40:02] <Ingar> one of those earthray days
[10:37:31] <boru> I can recommend cheap ARM SBCs with SATA3 if you're looking for a replacement.
[10:36:56] <boru> Oh dear.
[10:36:44] <FatPhil_> oh, jeebus, the pi's throwing up mmc errors :(
[10:36:42] <boru> It's there's some other service you don't know the port number for, `less /etc/services`
[10:35:14] <boru> Optionally with `-Pn` if it's filtering ICMP
[10:35:01] <boru> nmap -T5 -sC -p22 192.168.1.1-255 # To look for hosts with open SSH on port 22, for example
[10:34:32] <Ingar> or the patchcable is kaputt
[10:34:10] <boru> If you don't get an ARP response, then you're hosed, I guess.
[10:33:42] <boru> Scan the subnet, see what responds, or use a connect scan to a port your know is open.
[10:33:11] <boru> Install nmap, do a ping scan.
[10:33:06] <boru> Using DHCP? Static leases?
[10:33:02] <FatPhil_> and I can't check the router without a graphical browser
[10:32:45] <FatPhil_> it's not responding to what should be its IP address
[10:32:11] <boru> What's it running? Can't SSH or RDP into it?
[10:31:41] <FatPhil_> no serial, and right now I only have one kdb in the house, so can't even try to run it blind, as that kbd's on the pi now (And the pi reboots if you change anything plugged into it - so I will need a new kbd eventually
[10:31:24] <Ingar> about the same sample size as FatPhil_ has
[10:31:00] <boru> So your sample size is one?
[10:31:00] <Ingar> ofc back than Intel was still better than AMD :)
[10:30:26] <Ingar> it's quiet, fast enough, and still runs
[10:30:19] <Ingar> I bought my mom a NUC
[10:30:15] <Ingar> donno
[10:30:08] <boru> Well, intel was your first mistake, then.
[10:29:42] <FatPhil_> I was attempting to go fanless, but failed, and that was the smallest quietist thing I could find.
[10:29:21] <boru> No serial console or anything?
[10:29:07] <FatPhil_> crappy desktop is a MSI Cubi mini-pc that's about 5 years old, cheaparse intel chipset inside
[10:27:58] <chromas> Have you tried the banana pis?
[10:25:18] <boru> What sort of machine?
[10:24:33] <FatPhil_> it's been kinda dying for the last few months. after power down, it would refuse to display anything coherent on the HDMI for about a minute. would blink on and off, sometimes displaying line noise. maybe it's booted up and is now just completely refusing to display anything. all I have working so far is one RasPi.
[10:23:20] <boru> So, I've started writing an ncurses based client which uses that.
[10:23:02] <boru> Which seems fairly well thought out, in terms of securely handling cryptographic data.
[10:22:36] <boru> Then there's this C library, which I'm currently using.
[10:22:09] <boru> Well, they publish a java library, then you have a third party java daemon called signal-cli, which a bunch of the shite existing clients (written in python, of course) use.
[10:22:08] <chromas> Bytram's box is rubbing off on yours
[10:21:48] <FatPhil_> fucking desktop machine didn't boot up after pm-hibernate :(
[10:21:16] <chromas> Imposter!
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[10:18:14] <chromas> Kinda surprising Signal i java and not node.js or something
[10:16:35] <Ingar> I had a java coure at the uni. A good thing. I quicly realised I never wanted to see that shit ever again in my life
[10:15:27] <boru> On an unrelated note, I've decided to start writing a Signal client, since the existing ones are so utterly shite. It's hard to fathom how java and dbus have stuck around like a bad smell.
[10:15:06] <Ingar> never was USofA news so funny
[10:15:01] <Ingar> ofc
[10:13:35] <boru> Not just in the USA, but abroad, as well.
[10:13:08] <boru> From a cursory view of these "news" websites, they still seem to be a bit obsessed with him. I guess there's still a market for that.
[10:12:25] <boru> I guess Donald Trump got them a lot of clicks, so they're still trying to milk that cow dry.
[10:10:52] <inz> That shouldn't even be news, but thanks to the Orange, things have shifted.
[10:09:25] <boru> I wonder if he'll exclude their spouses or associates, also.
[10:02:27] <Ingar> He forgot he had children
[09:46:58] <systemd> ^ 03Joe Biden Makes Shocking Announcement: None of His Children or Grandchildren Will Be Named Senior Advisers to the President
[09:46:56] <c0lo> Shocker! https://www.vanityfair.com
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[09:12:53] <c0lo> =submit https://denverite.com
[09:09:58] <systemd> ^ 03Deputy who killed himself left haunting videos on racist policing, division: 'I've had enough'
[09:09:56] <c0lo> https://www.theadvocate.com
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[08:36:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Dangers of Drugged Driving are Outpacing Drunk Driving - https://sylnt.us
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[08:28:04] <FatPhil> my 10 year old phone isn't the best interface to the internet that exists.
[08:27:09] <FatPhil> lost 1125 days uptime on my raspi :-(
[08:26:24] <FatPhil> waaaaaaah! no electricity at home. 2hrs down, 1hr to go, not sure if I can cope
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[06:07:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Silicon Chip Shortage Causes Automakers to Idle Their Factories - https://sylnt.us - too-many-silly-cone-chips
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[04:28:27] <anotherjokemurray> !nicotine
[04:19:22] <anotherjokemurray> you want better than realism? how about an elephant with blue eyes?
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[02:03:34] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:03:29] <Bytram> I realize there's a lot I don't understand. Like the 'Tube system' itself. Is it just a pneumatic, fixed-point-to-fixed-point system?
[02:02:24] <AzumaHazuki> all i can do is get as good at my job as possible as fast as possible, to be the rock, the fast one, the girl who's always there and always competent
[02:01:34] <AzumaHazuki> who the fuck cares if a bunch of people suffer or get sicker or even die 'cause you couldn't get them that IV bag of vasopressin fast enough?
[02:01:06] <AzumaHazuki> that's not politically correct though. that costs money and might jeopardize the precious 6-sigma cert
[01:55:34] <Bytram> or not cost-effective.
[01:55:24] <Bytram> or, at least, make it into a non-improvement.
[01:54:58] <Bytram> sometimes I'm right, and other times I discover there are other factors of which I am unaware that totally nix my "bright idea".
[01:54:06] <Bytram> I so often see things and quickly realize inefficiencies that (at least it seems to me) that are easily rectified...
[01:53:06] <Bytram> understood
[01:53:01] <Bytram> :sad face:
[01:52:41] <AzumaHazuki> plus, I'm new and just barely off probation, and I don't want trouble or to get a reputation as a gadfly.
[01:52:16] <AzumaHazuki> long and short of it is, management doesn't give a fuck, like all management everywhere. it's the nature of the beast. i'm not even really angry, just disappointed
[01:51:58] <AzumaHazuki> Hah! fat chance. i've thought of all of this
[01:51:03] <Bytram> Is there an opportunity to get this in an upcoming capital improvement plan?
[01:50:29] <Bytram> What's the problem(s) with the tube station? Jamming? Too low air pressure? Too old and needs (oft-delayed) maintenance? Think of the cost to you and other employees as well as potential risk/liability to the hospital. If you were CEO, what factors would influence your [non]willingness to do something about it? Lost opportunity cost? Is this a for-profit hospital? Non-Profit?
[01:36:49] <AzumaHazuki> i've wanted to just kick the tube station over and over and over again, but what would be the point? it's inanimate matter. if anything i should be kicking whatever member of management thinks this acceptable
[01:36:20] * AzumaHazuki is dreading tonight and tomorrow's shifts honestly
[01:36:12] <AzumaHazuki> yeah...
[01:31:43] <Bytram> Can't help but think it would suck even more being *IN* the ICU and "coding".
[01:30:43] <Bytram> Sounds like a rough day. :(
[01:19:28] <AzumaHazuki> and, goodie, tonight and tomorrow are more half-assed IV training in the middle of a huge upswing of patients who keep coding and otherwise making the Med. ICU freak out on an hourly basis
[01:18:52] <AzumaHazuki> that fucking tube station has spent more time underwater than Greg Louganis at the '92 Olympics
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[00:40:26] <Bytram> Woke up, and went about doing a bunch of morning things for about half an hour to finally realize I had just had a long nap instead -- thought I'd woken up Friday AM!
[00:38:54] <Bytram> That was... surreal!
[00:04:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5485
[00:04:13] <Bytram> coffee++